De-Transitioner: Here’s What Her Doctors Didn’t Tell Her
Dr Peterson and Chloe Cole walk through her early childhood as she was going through puberty leading up to her transition. Jordan breaks down her gender dysphoria from a psychologist's point of view.
Chloe Cole is an 18-year-old de-transitioner from The Central Valley of California. She started her transition at 12 years old, puberty blockers and testosterone at 13, and had a double mastectomy at 15 years old. She is now a strong advocate against gender ideology.
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Ironic how this man is at risk of losing his license and yet the doctors that completely screwed this young woman are not being prosecuted.
It was her decision. Don’t blame the doctors for her lack of her own research. 🙄
@@Selenium764 at 13 years old? Do you have any idea how sick you sound? Do you believe children can consent to life altering, irreversible changes made by adults? Do you think kids even have the ability to think long-term?? Do you REALLY not put this on the Doctors who told her that her problem is being transgender and that making these changes will make it better? You’re a sad person and I genuinely hope you find God.
@@Selenium764 she was a minor, and also, she didn't have the obligation to explain the pros and cons of doing a procedure, that's always the doctor's responsibility.
@@Selenium764 plus your forgeting that the health sector in america releys insurance and private payment , so i suppose its easy money for them as soon as she leaves the hospital them doctors arnt worried about her or her health
@@Selenium764 Where were her PARENTS during these decisions 🤔
Imagine having someone like this in schools to explain real issues to students instead of misinforming them
It would probably be best to leave controversial subjects out of school and in the hands of parents.
@@freebird7369it’s only controversial because of the bullshit that’s been taught for years now. Even back when being gay was held on the same level that being trans is held on now. It’s controversial because of the misinformation.
oh man just imagine that, such a less chaotic world that uses reason and logic, sounds so blissful
@@freebird7369 real issues that effect less than 1% of the trans community which in itself is a small community when compared to the rest of society?
I would have been such a better person if he was a guidance counselor.
The girl deserves a lot of credit for discussing this in public!
Chloe has testified in front of Congress! She’s extremely courageous, and is trying to stop it happening to other children. I can’t say how many of them HEARD her .. but you’re right, she deserves a lot of credit.
So true. Takes my breath away. An amazing beautiful person.
Now this is personal accountability.
Don't believe everything you see in the internet.
Not a girl.
Anyone who would mutilate a minor deserves prison time.
Imagine all the doctors that perform circumcision.
I second that! 🤚🏼
@@EarthsGeomancer This is rather idiotic. Circumcision doesn't stop the penis from performing any of its intended function.
@@EarthsGeomancerapples and oranges
@@Vintageshutters JESUS CHRIST WHAT is with that ridiculous insanity WHAT in idiotic bs are you smoking with that. DO YOU EVEN UNDERSTAND THE QUESTION he was talking about YOU HAVE NO FRICKING IDEA WHAT you are talking about. Jesus Christ buddy GET A FRICKING CLUE ROFL :D
I was a hardcore tomboy, around age 8 I began to wear boy clothes, cut my hair, even had my family call me a boy name and now I’m 23, very feminine, straight , and love being a woman and mother. I’m so glad my parents let me be who I was and left it at that, no labels or medical intervention
My daughter, when she was very young (3 years) she said she was a boy. We said her she was a girl. Then she became a little angry and said: "when I am older I will become a boy". We tolded her that was possible to change as adult. She accepted that after a few discutions. Now she is still a woman and is happy to be a woman.
Same
My sister was the same. And a very happy mother and wife today.
We were allowed to exist and be loved as is back then, whether we were girly or not. It was wonderful.
@Freia T. It is only possible in a legal and cosmetic sense. But no woman has ever physically become a man ever.
Double mastectomy at 13.!!! Why would any doctor allow that!! I’m so sorry for her 😢
"Doctors" that do that have a lot to answer for. "Doctors" guilty of that kind of abuse should have something chopped off of them.
Yep, That is criminal! They wrecked this girls life
Money money money money MOONEY! MOOOOONEY!
Insanity to commit such an act and then demonising those that practice FGM. What a world of double standards, and what a crazy deranged species we humans are.
Agreed. Surgery should wait till adulthood.
I am floored at how brave this person is to put her own therapy session on KZhead. Thank you for doing this. I hope people (younger especially) take heed.
This is not a therapy session and more informative warning to those that believe all the nonsense you see trans activists spreading all over the internet tbh quite honest and to kids that may believe transitioning is what they need to do to fix their problems. He would be bound by confidentiality if this was in fact a therapy session and wouldn't be allowed to post it. The writing he is doing isn't taking notes and more probably crossing of notes he had given himself as prompts Or questions. I would think they would have had a conversation about what she was comfortable sharing before the making of the video given the invasive nature of the conversation. It's deeply personal. So having prompts or questions written down before hand would be helpful in keeping the conversation within the boundaries already set.
@@thebreifcaseman269 The bravery that this young woman possess to help others with gender dysphoria is the premise of my reply. Splitting hairs about semantics disinterests me. Call it a therapy session. Call it a recorded conversation. Call it Bob. It matters not. Please don't confuse the topic with a strawman argument.
@@pnoonan4018His/He. Use the right pronouns.
@@pnoonan4018Intelligent, thinking people recognise nuance and discriminate. Thick people say “oh it doesn’t matter”.
@@thebreifcaseman269 It is quite brave to do such a video, exposing yourself to the world, despite your trauma - all to save kids from being butchered.
As a mom who raised daughters through puberty, I can confirm that adolescents going through puberty will experience a wide range of curiosities and emotions. They do not know who or what they are. They have no idea what their preferences are BEFORE they experience anything. Leaving them be mentally and letting them ask questions was the best choice. Both of my girls thought they might be gay or bi simply because the other malformed teenage boys around them weren't interested. Has nothing to do with it. Children transitioning to adulthood do not know how to act or think like developed adults. I never told them no. I never told them they were bad, wrong, or gross. Both have grown out of it.
My armchair opinion is that this is the consequence of raising a weak willed society where nobody wants to hurt anyone's feelings. Parents do not want to hurt their kids feelings and so accept their confused feelings as truth rather than make them and themselves uncomfortable by guiding them through the confusion as they are meant to. Strong willed parents are seen as controlling, evil, and backwards to those who don't have the fortitude to guide the next generation properly. And our society gets to the point it is at today.
My mom is just like you and I grew out of it,honestly being a teenager is all about identity and exploring it on your own teaches you so much I'm 16 now and no longer "trans" I'm grateful to my mom for not judging me while I was going through it because it could've affected me mentally being a 13 year old that knew nothing but I can tell she's proud to see me growing and finding myself, she's the best
That's simply not true for everyone, so please don't generalize. I have always known who and what I am. I grew up with boy cousins as I was an only child and the only girl amongst those in my "family" I actually knew and spent time with. I still prefer guy friends over females because we usually vibe better. I never liked dolls, didn't like dresses for the longest time, I didn't/don't like makeup, high heels, or dolls. I still never once thought I was a boy and I have always known I was straight from the moment I started school and was around boys I wasn't related to. You don't have to experience things in order to know if you feel drawn to or repelled by them.
@@englishatheart When it comes to sexual preference Yes it is psychologically proven you need to experience these things and the emotions attached to them to know whom you prefer. This is why sexual abuse at a young age can drastically change the way a person views who is safe through attraction. This is not the same as liking or disliking inanimate objects like dolls or trucks. This the very basis of how we interact with the same and opposite sex in regards to trust, attraction, love, relationships, children, and a whole host of subconscious expectations that were shaped by.....Experiences. Even as a baby the brain is absorbing information and storing it for later use. As the brain grows so does the capacity to hold information and utilize it. Prefacing your argument with "not everyone" and "don't generalize" shows you are not actually thinking about the topic more than replying to correct.
How the best psychologist is at risk of losing his licence is beyond me.
that's why. he makes others look like the liars they are.
Because that judgement is not based on his quality. The puppet masters are afraid of his influence and knowledge
Tall poppy syndrome. Cut down those who have shown themselves as leaders in a field beyond what they group is comfortable with. They operate from fear and jealousy when doing so.
no one is hated more than he who speaks the truth. its a backwards world we live in
@@dabstradamus Very true.
I was a tomboy, my mother didn't discourage it. But I was never allowed to forget that I was a girl. I was well dressed, hair done, etc. Tore the knees out of slacks, got dirty, but it was okay. Mom made me confident, comfortable in my skin. I was tall, she taught me to embrace it. Whatever I'd dislike in the mirror, she coached me to love as who I am. I did this with my boys. Embrace who you were created to be. Love starts in the heart.
Amen! You have a great mother and sounds like it passed on to you.
This is the correct mindset.
Exactly! We really need to learn to accept ourselves. We are our own person.
Mum always knows best! That's why these parents who go along with the transition process are horrible parents
@@jacobparis5903 YES!
I started becoming a tomboy at the age of 8. I am 25 now. From age 8 to 19 i would never have my hair down or wear any girly clothes. Now i do and i love it. Im happy my parents never mentioned a sex change and i also never even thought about it. Yes i always said i wish i was a boy but im blessed to be who i am without changing my gender.
When I was a kid in the 70's some girls were considered "tomboys" and would play sports with us on occasion and do their own tomboy thing. I think most of them probably look back and then look at this, and say "Thank God, there go I but for the grace of God". Some may have ended up preferring female companions and others found male companions I am sure... but they were allowed to grow up and make their own decisions. What happens today in some of these cases is purely evil and criminal.
I wanted to be a boy at the age of 13, at 16 I fell in love with a boy, and we got married later and had 4 children. My oldest daughter is 30, my youngest son is 5😊.
What craziness! How can any parent let their child start transitioning at such at young age? Any parent knows that we all go through many emotional barriers in our youth. I just can't comprehend how any loving parent can think that transtioning is the answer to a childs emotional problems. What a good explanation this doctor has given.❤
I wouldn't blame them, seems the system tries to scare parents into it.
If you watch the full interview, Dr. Peterson actually goes into this at least a couple times. He talks about the pressures and basically manipulation that healthcare "professionals" inflict on parents of children suffering like Chloe.
What I find absolutely CRAZY is that there are doctors who go forwards with that at such young age and that it is actually legal to do that. A minor is not able to buy alcohol but is able to do this??? UNbelievable. Doctors should have told this girl and her parents, wait until your 18 at least.
@@JNL76can't believe any doctor would even consider doing these treatments and procedures. It's completely unethical imo.
@@jjjordan3881 Exactly, me neither. And that it is legal by law even less. So don't drink, don't drive, don't get a tattoo and don't vote, before 18, but hey chop your breasts off and take treatments that have no way back, you're old enough for that. Completely unbelievable and unethical to be doing this as a doctor, as a healthcare specialist and as a system that should protect minors.
People should not be told to transition while they are ALREADY transitioning from a child to a reproductive adult. One of the most important parts of testing a hypothesis is to have ONLY ONE VARIABLE. My heart breaks for all of these children who were lied to, abused and irrevocably mutilated.
Yes! Puberty is often 'difficult' for MANY people. However, now doctors are suggesting that the 'discomfort' experienced during puberty can be 'helped' by these types of 'procedures'?
@@StreetPreacherr that's fucked up. no children is mature enough to make those type of choice.
@@StreetPreacherr exactly!! For girls getting our periods, experiencing the hormonal changes and high levels of negative emotions is such a life altering experience. It does make us feel that we're changing into a new person but these days girls don't get much encouragement by their peers. They're told they should take hormonal birth control to fix their "problematic" periods and become medical experiments by doing so. If they were told it increases their risk of beast cancer by 50% I bet they wouldn't do it. Its also so sad to see a similar thing happen with boys and men. People are too critical of others and not critical enough of themselves imo. And then we get into "self esteem" 🙄
@@StreetPreacherr the only thing these monsters make more money from is the sale of aborted baby organs and tissue. unimaginable sadistic and cruel don’t begin to describe the crimes these monsters commit every day
They aren't TOLD anything. This is an evil fascist lie that Peterson is pushing. You're gullible fools if you believe this. Peterson is courting the lunatic fringe evangelicals with this lunacy. He knows they'll swallow this whole and worship him for taking up their fake outrage cultural war. He's a fraud and a grifter who will say anything for a dollar.
Mom explained menstruation to me at 8. I had my 1st period at 9. Mom also explained the emotional side to puberty. This was in the early 1960s. At that time, nearly all the "tomboys" grew up to be happily married women.
I was just thinking this thr other day. I was a tomboy who played basketball until I was 18. No one tried to label me as anything and no one thought I was trying to be a boy. I was just a girl who loved baggy clothes. I am now a wife and mother. Do tomboy even exist anymore?
Yes! Here I am! I feel like we are a dying breed…I’ve been a tomboy all my life (I’m 20 now) and probably will never grow out of it. I type this in my sweatpants and SnapBack hat haha! But I’ve always been straight and have been with my Boyfriend over 2 years!
@@landryharrell7 You never really grow out of it haha no matter how fancy I dress or how high my heels are, I will always feel like the baggier the better. I love being a tomboy!
Yep I'm one of them.
My mom told me at age 8 and I had my first period at 9 too. I then developed endometriosis over the years and had a hysterectomy at 41 because of all the endometrium pre cancer. I already had a daughter and now at 67 have 2 awesome grandsons, 2 Mos and 2 years .
Every parent with a confused child should be made to watch this with said child.
About 90% wouldnt be confused if they got off the damn internet. This virtual realm IS real. We are all real people providing a very real experience and influence on each other.
The courage it must take for this lady to come on and talk about this is amazing. Respect.
The fact, that people repeatedly attempt to cancel him and now try to take his license… we should be thankful for his voice! In fact our world needs more of this kind of people… unfortunately Dr. Peterson is very unique. We appreciate you Professor! Please stay safe and well!!!
he is the only voice of reason in the social science field
@@rishiramkissoon6976 Agree.
Thats what happens when you criticize the Fuhrer. They come after you. First Trudeau came for the truckers... then the psychologists. When he comes for the jews or whatever is next, there will be no one left to speak up. Just a normal day in nazi germa- I mean canada.
He is _saying_ part of the truth. But odd how he's *consistently* bringing these things up 3 or 4 years late each time...
@@daynarisbarathion8602 whats these things
Loved the fact he treated her as an intelligent mature adult.
Mr. Peterson is a professional clinical psychologist. I would like to emphasize professional
why shouldnt he?
She is mature and intelligent.
@@spur007 did you hear her say she had a double mastectomy? If she were a he, she wouldn't have needed that.
You've been immersed in feminism for way too long. Feminist ridicule men, men don't belittle women without good cause.
Hearing him speaking about negative emotions when women hit puberty made me realize just how lucky I was to have a psychologist as my mom who was there to support me as I also hit my puberty really early. I freaked out on so many levels with my period, hormonal imbalances, depression, my body changed way too quickly and I was in a constant conflict in my head… frustration was too real. But I had support, and she was always there to explain everything I was going through. Never would I have imagined that now days there would be people using the immense confusion that puberty and adolescence causes us to their advantage…
I listen to him for hours. The way he explains situations that dont even pertain to me, still teach me so much. He could breakdown just about anything to terms someone will understand.
It breaks my heart that nobody had this conversation with her years ago.
These are surely issues for the parents to help their child with!
It's not a common conversation. This comment sounds like an assumption that every parent knows or understands what this doctor is explaining. (And the other comment in this thread replies included). That's a FALSE assumption and unfair to compare parents knowledge with a doctor's knowledge. Not every parent has the opportunity to be a doctor. DOCTORS ARE SCAMMING CHILDREN PERIOD.
I believe there are few people in the world who get that conversation. I didn't even know what a period was when I first got mine. It still blows my mind till this day but I basically raised myself.
@@elsiem7295 if I was a girl and I had my first period without knowledge of what's happening I would honestly think am about die 😅
Thanks for having a heart. Lots of us don’t.
My daughter started developing at 10, by 12 going through puberty, she hated it, she didn’t like boobs, she didn’t want them, she said she wanted to get a hysterectomy because she didn’t want a period or babies, I sat her down and explained to her, 2 years ago you loved dresses, 2 years ago you liked ponytails, today you don’t. There’s a reason why I wouldn’t let you get a tattoo is because what you like today you can dislike tomorrow. Having boobs and a period is normal, I also explained to her that her sister at her age was the same way. She’s almost 15 now and is accepting of herself, if I would of bought into what they are pushing I would of done great damage to my daughter, I’ve told my kids that your are perfect them way you were made.
12 yr/o wanting a hysterectomy... blame the internet for that. still you did a good job.
@@wakuku3916 *Trans ideologues on the internet poisoning children.
Great mom.
Had the same thing with our daughter. Thank you so much for staying true to your gut feeling. Fucking love you. Her mom and family gave her a phone against my wishes. I'm her step dad, but had to put my foot down. Was a rough road but goddammit she's OK now
@@SuperDrLisa "MrGuzman" lol
respect to this dude, at first i thought here we go another guru, but after watching him for a while in various video's, but he crushed my cynicism, because he is obviously a highly intelligent man and i have seen him feed off countless attackers with his psychological jui jit su, he presents his answers in a clear and concise format it is hard to argue with, basically he knows his shit !!!
He knows what he's talking about ❤
@@user-ey6vk5gu4o what's special is that he's doing it honestly and altruistically.
Yep, he is cool 😅 I do not like all of his conclusions and opinions and do not always agree. But nevertheless, he is excellent intellectual man and I respect his opinions greatly.
36 year old woman... never had this explained to me either. This is so SO helpful!
I like how Peterson explains puberty perfectly when the schools litterly teach you nothing
Exactly. School teaches us nothing about hormones or puberty. To that point, the schools completely avoid this topic
@@luisgarcia-chow3652 u were in school like 1940?
@@luisgarcia-chow3652 lol I remember sex ed. you might have been in school in the 40s and it was a forbidden topic
schools are center of indoctinations they are no longer there to teach...they have not for a while, seeing the amount of illiteracy , stupidness, lack of understanding, narcissistic, no national pride these the youth and young adults exhibit.
Yes, they should at least teach you how to write "literally" properly !! (Just joking, friend)
What they did to her was absolutely unforgivable. It's infuriating.
I don’t feel this person is telling the whole story. Not sure but this generation always thinks they know best and don’t want to listen to anyone older and wiser then them and can be quite arrogant about it. Not saying this is the case … but I am left wondering. It’s easy to blame and not be accountable. Once again, not sure that this is the case but…this is not he first case … and some are suing without first looking at how they contributed to the situation. And, I am deeply sorry that this person is in this situation and in suffering❤
@@rtd7066 fair enough (maybe) but you really expect a 13 YO to make a decision on this kind of stuff?! As if at that age people (kids ffs) can make responsible decisions on such important topics.
@@rtd7066 She was a child. Stop being an idiot.
@@rtd7066 exactly why they should not have the ability to access these things until they can think for themselves like when they are adults! they are children and they don't even have a pre frontal cortex so wait till your 18-21 😇
it happens to plenty of children youth and adults. so why question their story. THEIR story..@@rtd7066
My heart goes out to this young woman and the trials she has been through. She shows great courage is sharing her journey.
What does “my heart goes out” mean? It sounds ridiculous.
She seems lovely, I'm sorry those doctors were allowed to do the damage that they did. Jordan is fighting a very important fight and we need to support him
i have no idea why so many hate this man, he is truly a great psychologist
No one is hated more than the man who speaks the truth.
In a decaying society, truth tellers are the first to get scolded. Misery loves company to sustain itself.
I just wish he would stay out of politics because that’s what muddies his otherwise clear waters.
@@MrAllstar he's not political. He jist calls a dictator a dictator. There's a difference.
Media brainwashed sheep. He a great man
I went through almost exactly the same thing as this girl. My friends were boys, I liked boy things, I have extremely broad shoulders, I had extreme anxiety and depression, couldn’t fit in with girls or boys as a teenager, etc. etc. BUT I had the advantage that there was no one anywhere in the 50’s and 60’s who would have ever suggested that I become a boy. It wasn’t even a thought in anyone’s head (that I would have known). That would have been unthinkable back then. I grew up and made friends with who I am. A woman who enjoys female and male friends both. I love woodworking and sewing. I love stunt car crashes and classical music. I enjoy detailing my car and dressing up for a night out. The things I enjoy are quite varied. And I’m fine with all of that. (And the best part, my husband loves me as I am. ) I have a wonderful daughter, 5 grandchildren and 4 great grandchildren. I am so lucky!
❤🙏🌟
Same for me. I'd rather go with the boys. They were outside, running, exploring, totally tomboyish. Highly attractive to men. I am a woman who followed her interest in a lonely existence because no one else, female, had the same interests in science, welding or manual work that I love. I accepted that those folks are different from me. I never wanted or considered being a man even though for a woman I felt a little more masculine only because I had skills no female friends of mine have. I am proud of who I am, I'm a different kind of female. That's all.
Loved your story and so glad you never had to go thru a life changing gender stunt like the ones our children are subjected to. And I think what you experienced as a teen is very similar to what a lot of teens are going thru. And it's normal, it's ok and it is not a cause for any measures. It's perfectly fine for a teen girl to prefer the company of boys and for a teen boy to want to be around teen women. By hanging out with guys, you don't become one. Its just that you have common interests and that's that. I don't understand why we have to be so limiting in a sense that if you don't do boys stuff then you are not a boy and likewise for girls...
@@simonov_spas Thank you for the nice comment. Want to hear something funny but also nice? My husband thinks I’m the greatest wife ever because I can cook and sew and raise children and build furniture and talk endlessly about sports and watch action movies with car crashes etc etc. We have a heck of alot of fun!
@@pique-nique heck yeah! I can really relate as my wife, mother of our two amazing kids, is a wonderful cook, but she is also a crazy football (soccer) fan and takes the boy to games where I stay with the daughter and watch toons. She is also the one who loves cars and loves to assemble things. Don't ask what I do 😂 but as long as she is happy I am happy 😂😂😂
Ahh geeez. My whole heart aches and goes out to this young woman. I wish her nothing but happiness
Chloe, you are one of the bravest people I have ever stumbled across. Please continue being a shining star in the universe of humanity. I am humbled to have been allowed to view this. Thank you.
This happened to my daughter. I didn’t affirm, she didn’t kill herself. We had to move because the school was absolutely insane. She is a happy girl now and I’m so thankful that I saw what she was going through.
I'm a liberal. Watch conservative KZhead just to break bread with others... I'm also a teacher... What I cannot get these teachers to understand as number one there are not enough hours in the day for math... But the very fundamental nature of LGBTQ is sexual intercourse and how you prefer it... That doesn't belong in a school as open-minded as I am and sex certainly happens in high schools and Junior high's but not involving the teacher usually hopefully... I don't want to have these discussions with these kids there's kind of no way to have it if you're talkin about lgbtq
@@exoticalBecky_Miami thanks for this comment. My husband and I have been saying this for years! I don’t understand why the school is involved with any of this. Sexual preferences should be a private matter that you work out on your on in your own time. I’m happy that there are sane teachers out there!! Keep on spreading the word
Even the schools are funneling patients to hormone peddlers, it seems. Disgraceful.
How old is she now?
@@godspeedhero3671 17 she started her delusion just before she turned 13. It was a pretty dark time
I was a huge tomboy growing up. I wanted to talk like a boy, play with boys toys, I wore boys clothes and even dressed like a boy at school. It was 100% just a phase. I am so thankful my parents, school, and social media didn't pressure me into acting on that. I am now a happy and healthy 21 year old girly girl and have absolutely no desire to be a stinky boy haha!
Love you too cootie girl 😘
Many are .. it's just circumstance and comradery as the play is fun but we all grow up😂... to many people interfering with agendas today ... and it's not like all us boys never put on a pair of our mother tights or tried walking in high heals when we was 6 😂
Even if it's NOT a phase...you can be a sporty girl; a girl who doesn't like dresses or makeup; a girl who fixes cars; even a girl who likes other girls!! No need to physically mutilate yourself to be who you really are.
@@lizzy-wx4rx exactly, to the point
I'd like to ask you a question. Did you want to be like the boys you knew or were those things you actually liked?
thanks to both, especially HER for speaking on her experiences
She speaks incredibly. What a brave person...
I was a tomboy growing up, had pride that I was stronger than my brothers being the oldest... but once puberty hit, I was mad because I slowly found out that it was out of my control.... my brothers grew stronger and stronger and I had to work harder if I wanted to get buff. My parents never talked to me about any of this.... so I had it rough. Thank God I didn't grow up during this decade or they would've tried to turn me trans for sure. I finally accepted my femininity and it's value in my 20's.
Snap i almost felt like I’d been punished when you eventually aren’t faster or stronger than the boys
Same! Same same same!!! If I was born 10-20 years later, I would have almost definitely ended up going down the trans female turning into male pipeline. I was a “tomboy” girl. And it was 100% due to the fact that my mother and society taught me that “Girls are weaker than boys. And girls have a harder time in life than boys..” My mother used to say things like that to me, word for word. If the parent tells a 4 or 5 year old kid that they are going to be weak if they are a girl-then of COURSE they are going to want to be a boy. And the same goes in reverse. Let’s say you have a male little boy, and his mother tells him, “Men are bad! Men are mean, violent, angry creatures. Men hurt people. Women are gentle, beautiful, and loving.” And you get an empathetic little boy who doesn’t want to hurt other people. Of course he is going to say inside his little brain, “Being a man is bad, I don’t want to hurt people! I want to be nice to people, so therefore I will be a girl!” And society accidentally reinforced those lies that were told to me in my life back then-back then, there was less girls in science, for example. Less girls in engineering. Less female doctors. Less female rocket ship builders. Etc. Women only got to either like makeup or stay at home and make babies and clean and cook. And all the clothing and toys(especially back then in the 90’s and 00’s) was like… ridiculously gendered. So sexist. The toys that girls only got to play with were sparkly neon makeup, dress up princess clothing, and Barbie dolls, and baby dolls. And boys got the cool toys like science kits, Lego sets, building stuff with tools, medical toys, bows and arrows, etc. and I liked that cool science stuff! I had several construction building kits. I had science kits. I liked play fighting games. I had a whole arsenal of pretend knives, bows and arrows, shields, swords, armor, etc. (I wish someone had taught little me about badass female Vikings! Being good at fighting to protect people you love, doesn’t have to be a male-only quality!) But I liked toys that boys were supposed to like, and I liked sports-so that would have made me female to male trans, right….? In today’s society, sadly it might. And even at school, the boys would pick me last for playing kickball or for sports teams, because I was the only girl in my classes who wanted to play kickball or play sports. They would even pick the boys who couldn’t kick as far as me, before me. 🙄 Because I was a “girl”. So I thought inside my little head, “I don’t want to be weak! Girls are weak! I want to be strong! I need to be a boy to be strong! And I want a job that makes a big difference in the world, I don’t want to stay home and cook and clean! So I don’t want to be a girl. I need to be a boy!” And I thought that way for a LOT of years. Even accidentally subconsciously, I viewed being a woman as being “weaker” than men. And it took years of self therapy that I basically gave myself as a teenager, to become more comfortable with my gender. And learning to not be afraid of looking beautiful, and that it wouldn’t make me “weaker”. and after I became a christian at age 21, I did even more years of prayer therapy with God and a several christian counselors. And now I understand that women are just as strong as men-our strengths just lie in different categories. Strong in different ways. And also it depends on the individuals themselves too, and almost nothing in life is black and white. Plus the gender talents can overlap. Plus some of the modern church does teach some lies and gender misinformation as well, but that’s a different story… Anyway. By like 17 or 18, was glad I was a girl and hadn’t transitioned into being a male. Like I was comfortable enough in my own female skin to be like, “Whew. I am glad I didn’t become trans. I like looking cute in a dress some days, when I feel like it. And looking cute isn’t necessarily a bad thing. And I’m not weaker, girls can be scientists too.” And even THEN, I was still not 100% fully comfortable in my gender until maybe like age 26 or so. Because then I had to break out of some christian church lies about gender that get forced wrongfully into women… and actually women CAN teach and those verses that supposedly claim that women are weaker and claim that women cannot teach men are taken out of context… But anyway. Long story short: it was only because of society’s lies, and my mother’s lies, and school kids’ bullying at recess, and some church bullying, that I had accidentally believed that girls were “weaker” than boys. And that those lies had tricked my mind into wanting to be a boy and not a girl. I was never really gender dysmorphic. But in today’s times, I would have probably been told that I was experiencing gender dysphoria. And been transitioned to male. When all I needed, was some therapy, to heal the trauma. And some gender-reaffirming care, for someone to reaffirm for me that being a woman is: strong, smart, beautiful, can succeed in sports, can succeed in the military, can do anything she wants, can be a rocket scientists or an automotive engineer too, can be a pirate or a Viking too, etc. And for someone to tell my that “being a girl didn’t make me “weaker” or “less than” boys.” And these kids today are getting the opposite type of care. 😭😭😭 Maybe a small subset of the population truly is transgender, like Blair White teaches, and it is discernible on a brain scan. I don’t know about that, I haven’t researched it. But we can say with a high level of certainty that 99% of the people in today’s era who are being projected as “trans” might not actually be trans at all. There is a high chance that they were just fed lies in their childhood and teenagehood, that made them believe lies, and made them uncomfortable about their birth gender. And sadly, many times, sexual assault plays a role in wanting to transition too. A victim of assault might see a transition to the other gender as a way to “escape” the assault and then say to themselves “the attacker won’t ever be able to attack me again, when I am a different gender.” So many kids need therapy for assault. Instead these kids get society and bad therapist pushing on them, “Omg you’re trans! And if you don’t transition you’re going to be miserable the rest of your life and want to kill yourself!!!! Transitioning will fix all your problems.” And panicked, they think, “I don’t want to be miserable and kill myself! I am already miserable. My therapist said that this will fix my issues. I should transition.” And then 3, or 5, or 10, or 15, or 20, or however many years later… They realize they were never truly trans at all. And they were rushed into it. When they needed a different type of therapy. But it’s too late now. Some level of permanent damage has already been done to their body. :( The society online and therapists rushing to tell kids “you’re trans”- is so dangerous. So many of them aren’t actually truly trans at all. They’re lost and broken kids who need therapy to undo some lies and trauma.
When I was 5 I realised that I would never be strong enough to win a fight with my dad and one day my brothers would be. So a child can have a realistic world view.
Also so glad I did not grow up in todays push for “labeling” girls that are tomboys with gender dysphoria. I grew up with 4 brothers and definitely felt the perception of boys being “better”. When I was very young I even denied being a girl seeing the positive response my brother (3.5 years younger) got especially from family that hadn’t had a boy in the family for generations. I hated and still dislike cooking. I am an engineer and trumpet player. I am now the mother of 4 and a grandmother. My husband does most of the cooking still. I wear mostly jeans and no make up. That does not make me a male. I pray that our society would stop defining people by their sexuality only. It’s another tool to divide.
I finally completed my internet quest of finding someone like me with the with a similar situation and viewpoint. "Thank God I didn't grow up in this decade or they would've tried to turn me trans for sure." This is exactly what I've been saying. Thank you!
I have no idea why she decided to talk with JP or why she’s being so candid but this is SO brave of her. It’s also incredibly helpful to society that this conversation is happening and being broadcast.
To help stop other kids from going thru this
@@shaec3405 of course, and I truly hope it does. ❤️
She did it to be an example of why you don’t want to do that. Most adults don’t have that courage.
@@GORT70 yes, I agree.
she's a vocal anti trans activist
Chloe, I applaud your very brave efforts to share your story! You are a beautiful soul.
This is heartbreaking. I have two daughters and they both wanted breast implants at thirteen. I refused and years later they developed but the emotional shame is influenced by friends who developed earlier. Prayers for this beautiful young girl to find peace and comfort.
Jordan's level of focus, attention, compassion and knowledge is incredible. The Ontario college of Psychology in Canada should be ashamed for how they are treating Jordan. He has helped millions of people around the world, mostly for free. The College is clearly unfit for purpose
@@TrainWreck444 that's what he said you fool. Is reading hard for you ?
He might have helped many people, but he also spread a lot of misinformation and views that harm people. He might be a good psychologist by the book, but I genuinly don't think he's a good person.
@Lulu Beukes May I ask why you think he's not a good person and what misinformation he spread? Not trying to spark an argument, but debate.
@@lulubeukes2296 rather than just slag him off with vague insults, how about naming what you disagreed with as you're playing the man not the ball.
@@TheWhills I think he overstates the harm trans people do, villifying them instead of trying to understand their arguements. From what I can see his actions aren't driven by compassion but rather a will to inforce a rigid world view and gain liking with other popular conservative personalities, like Ben Shapiro. I judge people on their intentions, and I don't believe his are in good faith. I also don't agree with his takes on systematic racism, but that's a bit longer of a discussion.
Now I understand why so many hate this man. We need more professionals like him.
He’s a quack
@@xlkarma8446 How wrong you are.
@@andrewhartley3 a quick google search will tell you otherwise
@@xlkarma8446 I don't need a fake news Google search. I have been following the guys career for a long time.
@@andrewhartley3 you’re not educated
What an informative podcast. I feel inclined to share it with anyone who has children, boys and girls. Thank you Dr! I have been binge watching you on utube and must say I'm grateful for your podcasts 🙏
Wow, this is an amazing and eye-opening story. I had no Idea how many people are affected by these ideas. I have so much respect for her taking back herself. I hope she knows all the way to her cor, that it's ok to be different, stand, out, be in the background, like boys, like girls, be a tomboy, and/or be girly. it's ok to do those things. Take the time and effort to explore all of the things you dream to without boundaries placed on you and without fighting yourself. You know it's ok to be awkward, everybody else is too! at different times. there is a list of words to describe the steps you took to get back where you belong in this world, I hope and pray you are fully able to move forward in life with you chin up. such a beautiful thing you did for yourself and many others in your circumstance. I wish you many great things to come. (this tragedy brings me to tears, how often this happens now)
If I had Jordan as my Psychologist as a teenage girl, I think I would’ve been much better off then I am now. Keep going Jordan, you have people all around the world rooting for you.
Well, he is a rather stuck in one vision kind of person as well, so "better off" I cannot be sure. He has really petrified the past few years and is steering back to 1950's gender-roles (like all people do" the olden days were the golden days" /MY ASS! Things were different then both the good and the bad, but they always seem to forget that.) Don't get me wrong I love how smart and articulate he is (and used to be), but he is really going down the drain the past few years.
Israel here!
I'm rooting for you. Keep going. Stick close to loved ones like glue ❤️
@@muurrarium9460 Cringe take.
@@muurrarium9460 is possible to take the good from the past, without taking the bad from the past with it. Gender roles weren't implemented, but more often than not are chosen by those that you'd expect to be in those roles. Jordan just understands all this. Most people do too, as it's common sense. Sorry you are lacking of common sense.
This breaks my heart… when did parents stop protecting their children. 😢
This is what happens when you’re married to your kid
When we let the left infiltrate our institutions where ultimately, the state took charge of us all. That's its raison d'etre.
The moment they caved and catered to whatever the kid says they want.
In some cases the state moves in and prevents parents from interferring. Its quite horrific.
Unfortunately, being smart and loving is not a requirement to be parents. People make babies all the time with very little effort. Some parents are into the trans movements. My son at 3 year old hate orange. Following year, he love orange. Kids should never make permanent body changing decisions! Let them mature and then make decisions to avoid regrets later on.
Brave girl thanks for sharing your story I hope someone listening that's going through the same problem can find peace in this. Chloe is a beautiful girl and comes across very well. I wish her all the best.
Dr Peterson and Chloe Cole thank you for the in site. Very good information. Chole you are brave to share this very personal information and feelings to help others.
This man has such real compassion for people. Much more so than the so called doctors who are butchering both the minds and bodies of children. I hope someone is watching this who needs to hear Dr. Peterson's explanation.
It’s just a big experiment at the expense of children’s confusion.
Well stated!
yt and other social media platforms have been censoring Jordan Peterson over the last 5 years and other experts in the field of psychiatry and psychology because they were speaking the truth. There is a faction that wants to promote the myth that children should be transitioned. The main stream media and social media were also censoring detransitioners from being able to tell their story. This only changed recently when elon bought twitter. Finally the majority is fighting back and demanding the truth so now we can hear Chloe and thousands of others. This is the same level of censorship that occurred with the pandemic in which the actual scientific and medical experts in our country were made to go completely silent or lose their careers.
@@valenciasanchez93Absolutely correct. These people are doing what the Nazis's did in the 1940‘s.
@@ndakhotmail oh yes!! I’ve made that point before!! We brought their researchers and experiments here to the US after the war. This is just a continuation of that
I just wanted to note that you can tell how difficult it was for Chloe to talk about all of this. Thank you for sharing, and for having the courage to do so.
She's autistic. It's difficult for her to do just about anything. You won't find a clip online of her coherently stringing words together, even if it's on the topic of her favorite ice cream.
Thank you JP! Thank you for educating.❤
I’m a 90s kid. Her story could be mine - including the medical negligence with which she was treated. Certainly the body mutilation performed BY doctors is worse. But in every sense, the theory and methodology for pathologizing puberty has been underway at least since the 90s. Back then, tomboy autistic girls (they weren’t called autistic back then) who had a lot of emotional distress from puberty were crying for help with their mental, emotional and physical pain - and were treated as “bipolar” or “mentally ill” at best - and, at worst ignored and written off as “attention seeking.” What’s interesting is that pathologizing women has been a thing since sensitive (potentially even “autistic”) women began having emotional breakdowns as a result of industrialization. “Hysteria” was first called such in industrial France if I remember correctly - where women were overcome with the noise, the filth, the crowds, the pressure to conform to cramped living and overbooked “social” schedules. And by the victorian era, the cure for “hysteria” was to send women away to a country house for a month or so. Away from the noise, the pressure, the filth, and crowds. Sometimes the cure was a permanent move to the countryside - only going into “civilization” a few times a year. Somewhere along the way we lost that wise cure and now pump women full of drugs and hormones and push surgeries on them if they express any dismay with the way they react to the world around them.
So sad because everything she explains about what she went through is what almost every girl has gone through in life...
I feel like he talks a lot and interrupt her or him
@@fuandyourmom She's always been a her. And she has de-transitioned, so her "preferred pronoun" (whatever this means) is her.
How could the parents even allow this is what makes me sick
Very sad and unfortunate. Yet at the same time, her story is now a public example for others to learn from. It's great she consented to us seeing this.
@DezertFox you're right. This culture's Evil cultural Practices needs to be put to a stop and cultivate all people in a natural loving way. This way is wrecking young bodies and minds for profit, making them into scientific experiments because of their unnatural methods.
The "professionals" that allowed this confused child (no offence intended) to embark upon such a horrifically missguided and permanently damaging endeavor should NEVER be able to work in the health sector, In any capacity, EVER AGAIN. Criminally negligent, the lot of them!. Thank you to this brave young lady for sharing her story, hopefully it finds it's way to vulnerable young ears that need to hear it the most. Brilliant content as standard JP 👍
Right now we are all victims of the medical and the Authorities, this last couple of years, Where they can they are sterilizing everyone they can. So one thinks they know what only God know. They have decided the earth needs fewer people, they are blaming all kinds of things that they themselves are causing.
The Ontario board of psychologists want to re-educte Dr Peterson over his words used on social media but nothing is said about the doctor that misdiagnosed this poor girl. What is happening? Does she have any recourse through the courts?
the doctors bend to the woke crowd, if they dont they might lose their job.. so dont blame the doctors, blame the woke crowd, and the people that listen to them
@@gardengnome3249 They want to "re-educate" him b/c they know he speaks the truth and he ruins their endgame (normalizing p3 d0h feel eea)
Trans surgery below 18 should simply not be a thing. This woman was able to access the actually committal part of transition way earlier in life than the left wants. And now people like JBP are trying to use this person, who mind you knew to detransition before reaching adulthood! Who would not have been railroaded into surgery at 18! to fearmonger about puberty blockers.
What a bright, well spoken, brave & pretty young lady. I wish her the best!
She's a man..
my child is 13 and going through puberty. She hates it, hair growing in areas they didnt before, wearing bralets, she dreaded her monthly period coz its annoying and uncomfortable, sometimes painful, she's become very emotional. I talked to my kid (couple times), told her my experience of puberty growing up, reassured her that what she's going through is perfectly normal, and that mama's always here and she can always talk to me about anything, and that how and what she's feeling is valid and she has all the right to feel that way.
I have never had someone so clearly describe the development of adolescent kids. His video should be adopted as the standard in schools. I was stunned by the clarity of his understanding and explanation without judgment. That’s the type of information that people rarely see or are exposed to.
A less clinical but more expository interview is with Sophia Galvin and Allie Beth Stuckey.
Much of it is very debatable and misandrist. The idea that women are more "vulnerable" sexually is ridiculous. They're more POWERFUL sexually. They have all the sexual power. Men develop the physical power, women develop the sexual power. And the "burden" of child birth has been completely vetoed by modern medicine, namely abortion and contraceptives (post-conception contraceptives in the case of women), and that burden has been passed onto men. Now it's boys and men who bear the risk from sex, as women hold all the reproductive power. Plus, if this is self-reported data he's using, it's very suspect. And then there's all the sociological factors. You can punch a boy and a girl in the face with the same force, the girl will report that it hurt her more.
Jesus said, "I tell you the truth no one will see the kingdom of God unless he is born again. I am the way the truth and the life, no one comes to the Father except through me." For God so loved the world that He give His only Son that whoever believes in Him will not perish but will have eternal life. For God did not send His Son into the world to condemn the world but to save the World through Him. For all have sinned and come short of the Glory of God. For the wages of sin is death but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord, and All who call upon the name of the Lord will be saved. " If you want to be sure of Heaven and avoid the other place below say the following prayer sincerely from your heart." Lord Jesus I repent and am sorry for my sins forgive me. I forgive all who have offended me. Come into my heart and save me. I accept you as my Lord and Saviour. Fill me with your Holy Spirit and baptise me with your Holy Spirit. Fulfill your plan and purpose in my life. "I recommend you read John's Gospel especially chapter 3.Gbu.John 3v3v22,John 14v6.
I agree! I loved the easy-to-understand explanation of human development. It was taken from a clearly unbiased scientific view and presented in a way I've never seen done so well. I think this information is very important for people to view with an open mind though, considering the topic has a lot of bad information swirled around it... it can (unfortunately) sometimes fog up people's interpretation of what's going on and what's actually being said.
I want to express my greatest of admiration and respect for her, to have the courage to participate in this very personal interview. I'm sure everyone here has nothing but sympathy and encouragement for her, in hopes that someday she will develop a peaceful and content state of mind.
Him.
Agreed. I only question your use of commas, likely in place of an ellipsis.
Not only is she courageous, but she is also incredibly clear-minded and self-aware. She sounds very mature and logical in her explanations. Had one competent professional taken the time to tell her the things JP is telling her here, the outcomes could have easily been less devastating.
@@maverickg1740 this is a girl that was born a girl and attempted to transition to male through the means described and is now transitioning back to female. She is a female.
@@alexprice3747 She is highly intelligent...I keep seeing these virtues you described in other people going through the same or similar experiences and Im beging to see a pattern. Its almost like the establishment doest want intelligent, clear, deep thinking people to reproduce or be happy contributing members of society.
I finally have a better understanding of what actually happens to us as children heading into puberty. Jordan is wonderful, educated, knowledgeable, and the only person I’ve ever heard explain it so clearly. I hope parents take note of this in order to better understand, love, and protect their children.
I'm a Jamaican-Canadian teacher living and working in Kuwait. I just discovered your content and I'm very thankful for this information.
I feel badly for Chloe but I'm glad she has shared her story. If those who pushed gender choice spent their time pushing self love & self acceptance, we wouldn't be in this mess now. Adolescence has always been a time of stress throughout man's history. Dr. Peterson knows his stuff and every adult & teen needs to listen to this material. Love & support your child as they grow. STOP allowing money hungry doctors to destroy the children you love !
We all have various sides to our personality. We must love All of ourselves.we were taught in college we must integrate to be at peace with ourselves. Woke was called a split psyche in those days. What happened to all that?
Self love is only regarded for the morbid obese unfortunately nowadays
I really hope this gender dysphoria delirium fad goes away. if it grows rampantly humanity will go extinct. all our effort we put in to improve society and living conditions since the stone age will be wasted. everything we done and everyone who died to protect society would have been in vain.
I’m a 52 yr old female and this is the first time I’ve understood when I started puberty I felt such shame and guilt , growing into a woman. This intelligent man shouldn’t be at risk of losing his licence, he should be idolised for the clever man he is.
We men are supporting and learning from this king everyday 💪
I will never understand shame, guilt, whatever surrounding puberty. I couldn't wait! I wanted it all.
They devil can take his licence and so on, but the gift of God (his intellectual) can never be take, and many will benefit from it.
@@childofGod1067 man i agree with you, as a Muslim boy, i think the lives this guy has saved he is earning himself a spot in heaven 😭
@@OmerDrifts Agree , as a christian
Thank you Dr. Peterson and Chloe for your bravery 🙏💝 and for educating us.
Thank you! We need more of this kind of conversations.
There was a girl in our class in our catholic school in the 80s that ALWAYS played sports excellently with the boys during gym class and their games at recess even football. Everyone thought she was awesome, not a one of us EVER considered that she should go trans or even was gay. No teachers ever suggested it, no students ever, even in the nasty way kids gossip, made fun of her. We were just amazed at her confidence and abilities. We really celebrated it. And that's as far as it went. She's a Dr now, happily married with kids. If this agenda was pushed when we were kids I can't imagine what would have happened to her.
its such a disservice that as soon as a woman/girl competes in the physical level as boys/men....instead of celebrating the female skill/agility; the leftist convince her she must be a male.
Maybe she didn't have bdd. 🤷🏻♀️
Only interesting part here is, that people think, that any of this got anything to do with transsexuality. It's the same idiocy as people calling all kind of nonsense 'gay'. You are homosexual, when you want to have sex with someone of the same sex as yourself. That's it. Nothing else. And transsexual means, that you got the devastating problem to have the wrong sex. Nothing else. It got NOTHING to do with 'playing with the boys', being a 'tomboy', clothes, hair, make up whatever. Completely different things. If you for example like to wear female underwear or dresses as a man, that's transvesty. Doesn't mean that you are transsexual or homosexual. Can be on top of it (and of course for example a transwoman will very likely wear female underwear and so on if the problem is solved somehow), but not interlinked.
And maybe she’s miserable now. You don’t know? She may have went along with the flow instead of following what she wanted to do, whatever that may be. Be gay, be bi, be trans. Whatever.
@@Violetrn76 And maybe she isn't miserable. She seems pretty happy to me
As a woman engineer on the spectrum who has suffered from severe suicidal depression for many many years, I appreciate hearing this very much.
You are a wonderful human being for also sharing this part of yourself :) Know that there are people who have made it to this video and have scrolled down to your lovely comment who will feel as though they aren't alone as well.
you are loved and even though I don't know you I will be praying for you and hope you get through this dark time. I am going through something similar myself and recently quit my first real engineering job. I think given enough time even the worst shit can change.
Show them fanta-autistic tiddies🎉🥵
Thank you for sharing and being vulnerable. I'm happy you got some relief from his explanation. I am sure you are infinitely loved and I pray you will live a long, healthy, joyful life 🙏
You are here for a reason. So sorry you suffered that much. High career jobs are dangerous sometimes. Please be kind to yourself. 😢
i'm so glad that stories like this are coming to light, there are so many young people who are trying to figure out who they are and the media and society are doing them a grave disservice. i am ashamed that i used to believe the lies that we were fed when they hurt so many people and worst of all children this discussion was very illuminating as well, god bless
Your very brave to share all this with the world and I hope it helps others who feel how you did and could avoid what you have gone through. I wish you the best for your future.
I'm so impressed with how brave this young lady is, going on public record discussing such a deeply personal thing in hopes of helping someone else. What a selfless act! You're an amazing woman! I have so much respect for you!
I agree!
I agree,,, but she is probably doing what her lawyers told her to do, I hope she sues the hell out of these mad scientists that think they can usurp Mother Nature, and turn a girl into a boy. IT CAN NOT BE DONE!! You simply can not outwit God
young lad
It´s a very sensitive topic. I am amazed she was so well-spoken and collected despite being so young.
@@TP-nx7uf Yeah, she has really been through it. She can probably never live a normal life, she is too damaged, but I do hope that all the “ Dr Moreau “and “Dr Frankensteins” that did all this to her pay dearly. I believe the only reason all this gender bending is getting traction is because it is highly profitable for the medical community. When it becomes a financial liability, we may see things return to normal.
As a physician with 5 children of my own, the eldest on the cusp of pubescence, this sort of conversation is EXACTLY what children transitioning into early adulthood need. It's honest, captivating, understandable, and it wastes no time with political or societal motives. Thank you to Dr. Peterson, and to Chloe for her honesty and courage.
If I would have known this as a young girl growing through puberty, so much more would have made sense to me.
As if dr.Peterson doesn’t have political motives though.
Honesty? Chloe was born as Cole Grefell. His mom wished he were a girl so she made him into one. He's a fraud-aka-the opposite of honest.
He's often against both the right and the left even though he's more conservative and has more to say against the woke/radical left. I don't believe he has political motives. He's motivated by what he perceives as being the truth.
So, you as a doctor, how can you use your position in the medical field help spread the word? What Dr. Peterson and this lady is trying to tell the world needs everyone in the field of medical science supporting this message. I would say all doctors, no matter what field of study, needs to support this message. It should be an obligation. Too many people in the medical field fall short due to fear of political repercussions. Don’t be one of them.
I’m also on the autistic spectrum and agree with how Dr Peterson had described it. It’s the reason I struggled to form or maintain friendships; because of my obsession with special interest over people. Couldn’t have explained it better.
Keep up the good work Jordan! Your a light in the darkness for many.
This video should be shown in all schools as part of biology and sexual education. It is a travesty that the mental effects of puberty aren't taught to children going through puberty, and it's more needed than ever. How brave this young woman is in stepping forward to help young girls going through this themselves.
They are not going to show this or anything like this is school, as much as they should, because it goes against what they want the children to learn and believe.
On the contrary, in Ontario, Canada where I live, the Ontario school boards are (or want to start) instructing Ontario school staff (and encourage the other students) to hide a young trans (aka 'gender variant') student's preferred gender, his/her new chosen name and his/her chosen pronouns from this student's parents, supposedly to provide a 'safe space' at school for the child to 'live his/her true self' while supposedly protecting the child from possible parental violence upon hearing of their child's decision to transition. I would love to hear Dr. Jorden Peterson's response to this new development in Ontario schools and to hear what the effects he would expect to see develop in a child who is encouraged by the teachers and guidance counsellor to lead a double life as he/she lies to and deceives his/her parents at home. I would think that would vastly increase the child's feelings of depression, anxiety, guilt and possible suicidal thoughts.
They need to update it with the new stats which say trans kids have higher suicide rates (the only difference in problems with self modulation being the struggle of being trans) and despite the belief that the earth is being invaded by ship loads of trans people and taking over the schools, less than 1% of kids identify as trans with 1% of those kids regretting transition. That said, kids shouldn’t be getting surgeries until they are 18.
that's strange i never felt the effect of puberty(i'm a men maybe it's less stronger for men)
@@justbuyarxfatalis3588 It's impossible you didn't feel the effects. Your brain chemistry changes. And, yes, as Jordan said in the video, it is worse for girls.
How can the Canadian board of Psychologists want to de register this great man? Shame on them.
The only ones that should be re educated IS THE BOARD
They will try because they are afraid of him, he is one they can never control
It's because they are not naive like the target audience of Peterson - they are not going to let the first charlatan around the corner to manipulate them this easily. With an average person it's easy: just take some exceptional case, agree on the script with them, suggest this is a normal outcome and try to demonize all transgender people and all of the professionals that try to help them, and it will work, people will eat this kind of taboid-level nonsense gladly, thinking they are on the right side of the issue, little effort, instant gratification, ignorance is a bliss... but that board is not average people...
Trying to silence and cancel people is the left's main weapon.
How? I guess because of the biased , unethical videos like this who can not be more further from the truth, lack scientific standards, and increase ignorance and stigmatisation against very weak and suffering population
This video just explained almost everything in my childhood. Suddenly so many pieces fell into place and made sense.
I love listening to Dr. Peterson. So very interesting and his books are content heavy- just brilliant!
My heart goes out to this beautiful, intelligent young woman who was betrayed by those who should have protected and nurtured her! I pray she finds peace and self acceptance.
Damn....I feel bad for her. Does she look more masculine because she de-transitioned? I'm honestly confused.
I am guy and I see a beautiful young lady ......
@@genodedemon5109 I assume she has a more masculine look because of hormone blockers being mentioned, and she had a double mastectomy. I forgot if she took testosterone, however, listening to her voice, it seems like she may have taken testosterone. All that can shift the body to seem more masculine. And she stated that she already had broader shoulders.
he is a man
@@Crypto_369_Trader they are a person. I wouldn't advertise as 50% potential asshole and 50% potential asshole. 100% potential asshole.
Every young person feeling body dysmorphia needs to see this. This should be required to be shown to students in every school
Instead of the sex education they are pushing to K-3 this would be much more beneficial.
Agreed 100% Unfortunately, a lot of education establishments would not even countenance JP as he has been painted to be far right. Irony being THEY are far LEFT. Great silencing technique.
Honestly they should all be shown this as a part of their sex education. Like a lot of what they're dumping into the body dysmorphia bucket is the general tension teenage girls feel around their bodies as we go through puberty showing it as a matter of course would just help all the children. I do wish he'd mentioned the sexual harassment female children deal with when puberty starts because that shit is terrifying when you're a child.
In Japan there are many beautiful bathing areas in spas. Almost all have a rule of no tattoos allowed. If you show up, and you have tattoos, you can’t just say, “my fluid body expression has no tattoos, so you have to let me in or you’re “body expression phobic.”” No, you have tattoos. They have a boundary regarding that. But now you say “but there’s lots of people like me, a community, and our community has a abnormally high suicide & self harm rate & if you don’t respect our body fluid expression and let us do whatever we say we want, we have an abnormally high suicide & self harm rate.” Implying, but not specifically saying, that if you don’t just allow us to “do whatever we say we want” people will kill themselves, hurt themselves and it will be, at least a little, your fault. Unless you let this individual specifically or anyone in their group collectively “do whatever they say we want”, you are causing their harm & deaths. Oh, and you can’t question us, or we will say you are “phobic” which is now the worst thing in the world to be, so that should end any discussion and hopefully convince everyone that they should & must be submissive to “whatever we say we want”. Oh & also change all the rules & boundaries & schools & governments & everything to support us, and only us, 100%. Do what we say or people will die. Sounds like a hostage situation to me. (!??!? What’s happening ??!!?)
Follow the money. . .
I appreciate all of this information. I have 2 kids who are around that puberty age. Hearing all of this might be helpful in my parenting if they have any issues.
The thing about detransitioners that nobody is talking about: most doctors recommend starting puberty blockers at age 15. Many of the detransitioners transitioned at a younger age than average, went through the process quickly, and were not screened for additional mental illness to ensure that transitioning was truly the answer. Any good doctor would inform you of the risks, and ultimately warn you that transitioning early comes with more risks than normal, and ultimately would refuse treatment if it was necessary. I grew up watching several of my friends transition, and none of them started before the age of 15. None of them have detransitioned either. All of them went through a long process of at least a year before getting puberty blockers or any kind of surgery. These processes are important and shouldn’t be skipped. They’re there for due diligence and to protect you. Additionally, transitioning isn’t even the answer for every trans person. There are many people who identify as trans and NEVER go under the knife. Transition is one of the treatments for gender dysphoria, but not the only one.
This poor girl is so nervous, just watch her hands. She is so brave, and doing this to help other children and parents that are confused. She needs an award for her honesty! Thank Dr Peterson for having her on, we applaud her and you for bringing this into the light.
Must have been very stressful for her to explain all her problems to a camera, or even a stranger such as JP.
I'm not being disrespectful but that's not a girl.
@@cooliipiei was so confused… I didn’t know what that person was. Thank you for the clarification
@@Sa_m-sam I think it is a biological female transitioned into male, then detrans back to female. (Had double mastectomy)
@@farukhadzihasanovic6943Oh wow. i did not think that. What a terrible process to go through :(
I have 3 daughters. I have found that talking to them before puberty and before they get their period helped a lot for them to understand what was about to happen. My wife and I both spoke with them about it so it helped them to feel comfortable with coming to Dad. I'm not an ignorant guy and I'm not a guy who is afraid or grossed out by a woman's coming of age. They have come into their womanhood with no fear or awkwardness because we were always there for them
Can I ask you a ??
@@blessedblessed5018 sure
Great supportive dad.
That’s super weird for you to be doing that part instead of the mom, the woman doing that
@Kris Ess My wife and I both do it. I do nothing to make it "weird". There is also nothing "weird" about a man knowing how a woman's body works. There's lots of men out there called doctors, specifically called gynecologist. Idk maybe you've heard of them.
Thx for this interview
Omg this poor human. You are absolutely beautiful and your aura is amazing! I can only imagine how you must felt. You didn't feel as if you fit in anywhere. You are so brave. I am so sorry you went through all this! Good God you a damn hero tho sweetheart!!!❤
She's a beautiful soul and so brave for sharing her experiences during this complex time.
You're the problem that is a he not a she
She's a casualty of modern eugenics.
NOT
He's His 🫣
@Victor Sanchez Why? She detransitioned - born female, started the process then stopped. She's female.
It is truly amazing what one can learn once the political agenda is removed. Thanks Dr. Peterson & Miss Chloe for sharing.
Can we hear more if what they have to say about their personal experience? Thank you for having this content available
This was amazing and enlightening. Thank you.
There’s a lot of kids in my school like that. I’m told I have no say “my body my choice” I reply, “ok, don’t blame anyone when your life is fucked in 10 years”
exactly they will pay for that arrogance, in their own little personal hell on earth
The problem with that argument is that as a kid you're just not capable of making that decision. That goes for almost everything that kids need to be protected from themselves. It's really a failure of guardians to do so.
I can't even imagine what it's like to be a student now with all this craziness. Best of luck navigating this nightmare.
@@athirstyguy now they're in many case removing parental oversight, when it used to be well known that kids cannot consent until they're adults.
when i was a kid we didnt have a choice
oh my god, I literally want to cry. she sounds exactly like me and what I went through, the body dysmorphia and puberty not working like you thought it would really hit close to me. I feel like the only difference between her and I is that I never underwent surgery. wow. I'm so scared for future kids, not everything has to be labeled and medicated. I feel like a lot of us proud and confident women today were also tomboys when we were young and played in the dirt and looked for snakes, and we didn't have the internet to rope us into communities where people with undiagnosed mental illnesses collect and feed into each others' (I'm sorry, but) delusions. the internet can be poisonous to a growing mind. I know it had an effect on why I cut all my hair off and binded my chest for 2 years when I was 15. I was online way too much and let it influence me to believe I must've been trans because of the complicated body image issues I was dealing with. but the girl in this interview put it into words perfectly. I feel for her so much.
Yea I was very much a tomboy but it was a phase. I love being a women.
@@sharedexperiences2773 so do I, I can't imagine not having my body the way it is today. I would feel just like these detransitioners, depressed and alienated from my own body. 🥺
I mean, we and a huge issue of "doctors" deciding that just being a normal kid was ADD and ADHD and then about a decade later declaring that kids grow out of it when all these adults would be reevaluated and discover they weren't ADD or ADHD. Imo, I think that, even more than barbiturates and sedatives in the 60s and 70s, damaged the approach to mental health and the endless drive to label and medicate everything. If my kid has ADD and she'll grow out of it, then why would I toss amphetamines down her throat? When I asked her teacher and the school nurse this, what it basically came down to was that it makes their lives easier. Same goes for this. It's completely normal for kids to have these feelings of discomfort or uncertainty about their changing bodies and feelings and behaviors, so it's a matter of convenience to slap a label on it and give them a transitioning steps to follow. It gives them a plan of action to "handle" it, rather than to just go through the hard parts and to learn from them. I cannot imagine how emotionally stunted a person would be after blocking their puberty for years or corrupting their bodies natural development, which includes chemical shifts in the brain that occur at adolescence. If we think we have a problem with prolonged childhood now, give it another 10 years... These poor kids are being absolutely abused and you can't say anything about it.
This is true! Those internet communities are dangerous, trynna put everything in good light while thwre are deep issues that should NOT be ignored!
Growing up w internet can be dangerous! Love to read your experience. Im gay n was very troubled back as a 12 yo, talking to pedos n planning a suicide Its weird when they say “the community” when it only put me in danger, and this happens to most people, they enf up feeling unstable n suicidal if they get into that ideology!
Wow. Makes so much sense. Thank you.
Chloe Cole is just an amazingly articulate, well-informed and brave young woman. I often wonder if she yet understands how she has made her tragedy into a help for thousands of people. What a magnificent thing, so young, to choose to do with your life. God bless her. Also, I just love listening to Dr. Peterson; he is brilliant but he also can explain complex psychological theory to a layman in a way that is very understandable. At the same time, Chloe is so bright that she must have really enjoyed and gained so much from this session with him.
I grew up as a SUPER tomboy. As a 30 year old woman I’m extremely feminine. I could see how social media could have had an impact on the transition to begin with. Hope you’re doing well now❤
You don't look feminine at all
@@ecyaj1289Yeah she does
@@CramcrumBrewbringer you see her face that looks like 🗿
@ecyaj1289 You look like a child. Keep out of adult conversations, you clearly lack maturity.
She's so brave, and my heart broke for her. Dr. Peterson is absolutely phenomenal. The empathy in his eyes is so moving.
and the real "brave" for standing up to a Left bend on revenge and hell. not that "stunning and brave" bullshit from just fitting in with your peers.
He.... not she... medically a HE, and will always be.
You misspelled pathetic. Imagine making a terrible decision (because no one forced them to do this) and blaming everyone but yourself. Maybe they are a woman, to have this huge lack of accountability.
@@snead3767 my guy...did you watch the video at all? Dr peterson understands this clearly.
Wow! , Listening to you Chloe makes me grateful that I never saw a doctor, but I Did for autism, I can so relate to the puberty thing.
This conversation is fascinating. It’s sad no one had this conversation with her before transitioning.
Exactly !
Well, now Dr. Peterson is having this conversation with thousands of similar girls simultaneously through KZhead.
It's scary that this type of honesty is stifled to the point where this type of honesty is considered novel.
What dr. Jordan patiently explains about a woman's negative emotions related to puberty has given me a sort of catharsis that no woke feminist agenda ever could. I could almost cry from hearing him. I could finally understand a part of myself that society had been overlooking and trying to smother with indifference. He is doing God's work for women and young girls out there and i cannot thank him enough for giving me this clarity on why i always felt that i lost a part of myself when i hit puberty. Thank you really.
Here's your deitys work he does not want coming into his churches: People with blemishes, blind people, the lame, those with flat noses, dwarves, people with scurvy, people with bad eyes, people with bad skin, and those that "hath their stones broken." Given that your deity is technically responsible for giving people all of these afflictions in the first place, this is an enormous dick move. (Leviticus 21:17-24)
You are pulling that verse without any context. That was a part of the law God gave the Israelites for which we can see several purposes, not just that of ordering their actions to righteousness. It was also to impart to them how incredibly holy God is and how set apart they must be for their sin to not cause them to die in the presence of the holy God. Since then, Jesus came to fulfill that law, so that through repentance and trust in Jesus (who He said He is and what He did in laying down His life for us on the cross), we are cleansed of our sin and brought into restored relationship with God with the hope of eternity with God rather than without Him in hell.
@@rebekahwebster3104 Tell me in what context is it EVER okay to slaughter sweet innocent infants and babies? So which is it? The sub-deity whom is immortal and supposedly coming back for round two "died but can't die" for a punishment he deemed you to be in the first place? You live your entire life only hoping to die to live?? There are so many contradictions... Its astounding! Reading comprehension is so lacking in academia and your morals are fucking scary! What kind of being justifies the slaughtering sweet innocent infants and babies????
@@missmorla1339 in which verse does God ever say killing babies is good?
@@rebekahwebster3104 Hosea 13:16 bashing babies against rocks ripping open pregnant women, 1 Samuel 15:3 demanded the slaughtering every person including infants and children, Jeremiah 31:15 woman morning the death of her children and your deity is a heartless asshole to her, Matthew 2:16-18 he gave orders to kill all the boys in Bethlehem and its vicinity who were two years old and under, , 2 Samuel 12 the child also who is born to you shall surely die.” , 2 Kings 2:23-24 your deity sent two bears came out of the woods and mauled forty-two of the boys. , Ex. 1:22 You must throw every son born to the Hebrews into the Nile , Numbers 16:41-49 the killing of ALL first borns right down to kittens... Genesis 22:1-12 Abraham got off better than Jephthah, who had to follow through with murdering his daughter (burning her alive, specifically) in order to get on your deitys good side before battling the Ammonites. Numbers 16:1-49number of surviving Israelites were kind of pissed that Moses and your deity had killed so many of their fellow people to prove a point. your deity responded by killing another 14,700 of them with a plague. The complaints stopped.
Always support Dr Jordan Peterson 🙏
My ex girlfriend is a trans man who regrets transitioning. She was encouraged in middle school to start thinking about transitioning because she was a tomboy who was attracted to girls and when her parents asked her if she wanted to be a boy she thought it seemed fun. After hormones and top surgery she realized she likes boys and wants to be a girl and a mom. But her parents and therapist encouraged her to try and reject those feeling s and commit to transitioning. After she finished hormone therapy she was infertile, which was something she was specifically told would not happen by her doctor. When we met she was suicidal because of how hopeless she felt in her situation. We dated for six months and fell in love. But she was ashamed of her body and that she couldn’t make babies knowing both of us want to be parents. I didn’t hold that against her, we could have adopted, but she couldn’t keep the suicidal thoughts away and eventually broke things off with me and moved away because a relationship was to much for her to handle being that unstable. She couldn’t handle the guilt, shame and regret she felt. The more supportive I tried to be the more she felt bad about being with me. When she shared her experiences and regret with me it was the saddest and most hopeless thing I could ever imagine. She was so young, impressionable and trusting as a kid and the people she trusted ruined her life. Anyone who thinks kids are old enough to to consent to that madness should know this. At 18 she changed her name to Richard so she can go by Dick because she thought it would be funny to be a Dickless Dick. But she hates the name Richard. When she told people her name is Dick and the reason why she would get made fun of, which should be expected when your friends are that ages. So after only a couple weeks she started going by Richard, which she hates. She’s so traumatized by the changes she did to herself that she refused to change her name again. So every time someone calls her by her name it reminds her of all of her regrets. That’s not the decisions making of a person who is mature enough to make those decisions. She was 18 when she did that. They are pushing this stuff on kids way younger than that.
This is what a strong woman looks like, so impressed with how brave she is. I am praying for this young lady.
@Vaga Bond when bacteria from mars is smarter than you.
@Agent 22 🇳🇮 In the context that you used the word "bacteria," it is implied plural. You used the singular word "is." If you meant to use the word bacteria in a si(n)gular form, you should have said ,"When a bacteria from Mars is smarter than you." The word bacteria is used for both singular and plural. Therefore, you must use context words to indicate which form you are using. Notice I included the word "a" prior to the word bacteria. Those Martian bacteria are looking smarter and smarter with every post like yours I read.
This person is neither a girl or a boy. Through self elected medically assisted mutilation, this person have given up the ability to perform any procreational role of either sex.
@@exisfohdr3904 I kinda don’t give a damn.
Considering how badly her body has been poisoned by chemicals and mutilated by surgery I guess she is still a woman by Chromosome identifiers...