Breaking Free: Ukraine Will Ditch Neocon Hawks, Strike Solo Peace with Russia!
Nicolai N. Petro, author of "The Tragedy of Ukraine" explains how the latest development on the battle field combined with the history of Ukrainian nationalism will lead to a process in which even the "Banderites" will want to strike a peace deal with Russia to preserve what is left of motherland-even against the will of the western neocon warmongers who have been wreaking havoc on Ukraine for the sole purpose of fighting a proxy-war with Russia. The great Ukrainian awakening is only a matter of time, and Russia knows it. The only question is how many more Ukrainian soldiers the nationalists are still willing to throw into their early graves before doing what should have been done in April 2022: a neutrality agreement and a true process of reconciliation. This tragedy must end and will end because at the end of the day, the neocons are willing to "fight to the last Ukrainian" but they have made it utterly clear that sacrificing their own is not on the menu. So wake up, Ukraine, and build a new future already without this poison that is the NATO neocon crowd.
Every day I wake up in an empire of lies, delusion and eternal war fueled by rivers of human blood. This is America.
The US is occupied by AIPAC which is a deputy of private banking cartel and major war profiteers.
True - it is very depressing
I can't stand our war hungry politicians. The video with Durbin talking about letting in tons of foreigners so that they can fight wars is infuriating
The common denominator in every war.
you mean the USA. United states of America. American is a continent or 2 much of which has been kept poor due to secret cia wars of aggression against sovereignty of the other ( black brown latino etc) Americans.
It is not an existential struggle for the West, but for Western hegemony only. For Russia it is existential.
it might be not as existential for US but for EU & UK the struggle becomes now existential, their leaders just don't realise it yet fully. not only Ukraine was seduced to its demise but also Europe. if Europeans want for Europe to survive, they have to change their leaders & decouple from their seducers.
100%.
West as it is, especially Europe, cannot exist outside it's hegemony
@@Maat-ka-Ra ,, That might be a wrong assumption ,, That the present crop of EU & UK leaders HAVEN'T REALIZE . They are dumb and moronic, They know exactly what they are doing , They were puppets , They were the Manchurian candidates
It is existential for the neoconservatives of the United States insofar as they themselves continue having careers and influence in the United States.
The usa only knows one thing, escalation.
It's like a car. It requires both a gas and brake pedal, however insane Woke neo-Marxists (read Democrats!) have ripped out the brake pedal and welded the gas pedal to the metal, even when it's blatantly obvious the bride ahead is out.
Rubble Diplomacy
Money laundering
TEXAS.
You fall into the trap of inaccurate targeting. Think. Who benefits from destroying Ukraine and reducing it to just an agricultural asset? Why are the farmers protesting in Paris? Ukraine's future was cast when the soviet industrial tech was dismantled and sold. Think of it as a Smash-n-grab, but in reverse order. Many other western states face the same fate... If left unchecked.
The smart thing for Ukraine would be to ally with Russia against the West.
Except what are you going to do with those nazis.
...... Yes ....Or, make their land of Ukraine a neutral peaceful land for normal human beings who have famillies to live in and friends and Nature, and prosper with other Neutral lands who look after their own peoples in their own countries trade in an honest manner like leaders should ...or their Peoples should take over without leaders, Presidents, queens and kings etc. iether way, The Peoples of each and every land must educate themselves ( me too ) as much as possible and GROW UP! love from an ordinary Mum struggling to make ends meet. But it's ok I can still smile with my friends. ( : ) PEACE n PROSPERITY ALWAYS
interesting strategy!
or better yett integrate into russia quareter of urkaine is alreadt annexed.rest shoud folllow.and will follow.ukrainians are regional identity anmade up by communists and west as putin said.
After Ukraine loses Odessa and gets completely abandoned by the west, Russia will push for peace and end the war. 5 years later, the Nazis still in control of Ukraine will March on Poland and take territory to try to make up for what was lost to Russia.
Ukraine needs to sit down with Russia and talk peace.
United States won't like that. Remember, America don't make money with "peace".
You mean the peace established in 2014, then broken by Russia in 2022!?
@@pensacola2015No he probably means a peace that can save the Ukrainian people. Not a war for your entertainment.
President Putin will never sit down and talk with a former clown/comedian/actor to make a deal -- especially when Russia is in Control --
@@user-kp2ed1rv7u President Putin will sit down with USA for a final agreement, when Russia has achieved its strategic objectives of the SMO. The West has established itself as being totally untrustworthy. Hence, no peace until the goals have been >80% achieved
Ukraine had agreed to peace proposal by Russia and the U.S. STEPPED IN AND SABOTAGED THE AGREEMENT TO AID POLITICAL DONORS. !
International Zionists Mafia cabal is in control of USA, UK, EU and NATO countries. Simple. Those who control banking system call the dancing tune.
No they did not. Russian drivel.
The Pilgrims Society sent in Bunter Johnson
@@lw1zfog The Russians sent in bombs to kill people.
Johnson, (funny hair ) was there and he has 😮😮😢😢 forbidden to agree with Russian propositions in Minsk2 meeting , last one before war .
The European Union is on its knees! With the help of its greatest ally! The USA 😭
The USA has a mole in the EU by the name of Ursula van der Leyden. She is married to a Jewish American and has seven children, who all live in America. She has American citizenship. How on earth does a person with such conflicts of interests come to be head of the European Union? She doesn’t even try to disguise her subservience to America and she is destroying Europe at the behest of America which is where she will go when she is finally booted out
Which is also on its knees
THE USA has NO allies, they use everyone for their gain...remeber V Nuland "F the EU"!
Please stop hurting us burger bros.. our leaders suck too..
with friends like that who needs enemies
If Ukraine could do "good faith", Russia would not have had to invade.
Also, if the West did "Good Faith" and did not expand Eastward then they would not have to invade too.
yea ukraine had time since 2014 to follow the minks accords n simply stop bombing n killing donbass regions but no, they did what west told them to. even donald "this war wouldn´t be happening if i was in office" trump had 4 years to end it before russia had to take action is nothing but a liar. also russia tried to make peace many times but belensky´s idiotic claims of wanting crimea back in order to sign peace deal... o welll..
Exactly. Sounds like "Ukraine sold itself to the West? What's the problem? Just pay more!" Nope, been there, tried that. It doesn't work. Feed 'em yourself, thanks. We'll just take what we need first.
What that translates to is if Ukraine had just obeyed Russia, Russia may not have invaded - serially invaded. What Ukraine decides to do/not to do is nothing to do with Russia. Now Russia has serially invaded they will have to take the consequences of what they started.
'Good faith' or not, Ukraine is a sovereign nation and can do anything they want. It's just that russia are having a hard time coming to terms with this.
The disaster for Ukraine were befriending Anglo-America.
They should of taken example of whomever trust them for last decades and how they left them bare . Where west's own interests were gone. These neocon Zionists doesn't believe in anything but their own ideologies.
Reminds me of the Polish in WW2. France and Britain guaranteed the safety to them with great gestures and speeches , but they had to wait for Stalin's soldiers for six years to get rid of the German occupiers again. History goes strange ways...and hypocrites are always present.
@@henryseidel5469 Lol what supidity,poland at tim had no inhterestr in allying S whcih wanted large part of their state and onyl posible allies were rotten west whci hentered war on opoland bvehlaf two years beofre Germany attacked USSR.Heck USSr attacked poland and despite all pretending they dindt they foguht some polish units whcih still stayed in east. russia is full of hipocrisy as well. as per end of war it woudl have probalbyh edned by sistemic nuclear bombing of germany by muricans.
@@himpim642 Sorry. I cannot understand your English, and I don't know what you want to say...
Elites that should not be, have no friends. Only accomplisses in their selfish ambitions to rule and exploit.
What a great guest full of extremely valuable insights. If only the Ukrainian leadership could see that they are being played by the west, and primarily the United States government. Nice to see someone spell it out so plainly and clearly. Thanks Pascal.
No way. Madam Victoria will never let it happen. The perpetual War to the last Ukrainian and to the last dollar in the pockets of American citizens.
They are glad to be "played" this way. Why? Because thanking to this war they are making fortunes out of foreign financial help. Everyone and its dog knows that Ukraine is one of the most corrupt state on Earth.
They were puppets , Placed in those position of powers . True Manchurian .
The corrupt Ukrainian leadership still don’t realize all the money they are stealing will not bring them happiness easy come easy go,wake up Ukrainian people your wasting your lives for nothing ☠️
Zelensky knows he will never win. He only cares about more money coming in. The soldiers in the trenches are the only ones who can stop the war by not taking orders from him.
Scott Ritter has made a strong point of the ability of Russia to enter reconciliation citing Chechnya as example.
Since the war started, Scott Ritter has been predicting Armageddon for Ukraine. And in all that time, he has never come close, regardless of how hard the russians try.
@@MatlockizationEvery day for nearly 2 years Ritter has been proclaiming the Russian army is collapsing. Reality is not his strong point.
@@garyddlewis3067Liar
@@garyddlewis3067 You are lying.
@@mikecimerian6913 About what, pray tell.
Unfortunately, all the responsible Ukrainian politicians who could negotiate with Russia in a good fate are nonexistent on the Ukrainian political scene today!
They have been killed and eliminated by “democratic” leaders of Ukraine who are sponsored and supported by a bunch of sick Russiphovs in the West.
They are all corrupt.
😮 negotiate with Kremlin fascist regime?
they are all in prison courtesy of zionliesky 😂
TAM SAM XYD OKUPANT I DRENUJACY UKRAINE
This I agree, many in Crimea think of themselves as Russian as well as Ukrainian.. in fact I was told this story - one port worker was all packed to go to Ukraine when Russia annexed Crimea in 2014.. then a Russian officer asked him why he is going, he said I thought you want all Ukrainians leave the place.. when he was told that is not the case... he can choose to become a Russian citizen.. and was hinted he will even get Russian salaries. (which are much higher than Ukrainian salaries)... so the fellow immediately stopped packing, and went with the Russian officer to take up his old job at port...
@vry... that is one person and not representative. People in Crimea feel and are Russians.
Russia's full name is The Russian Federation. It is a multinational state with over 190 ethnic groups designated as nationalities living under its "roof". Happily. In the last 33 years only 6 million russian citizens decided to leave russia. Compare that to 40 million americans (not a typo) who left the US just in 2019! So nah, that story 100% wasn't invented by either a russian or a ukranian.
about 1 million people emigrated alone last year to avoid dradft etc, the figs for emigration in 1990s were about 3 to 4 million per year! in 2009 the low point of emigration 1.7 m people left@@chickenlover657
The American taxpayer would be horrified at how much money is wasted by their government if they knew what was going on with these military fiascos.
Why do you all keep thinking of everything in "taxpayer" terms? We're US citizens, the US Govt acts (and spends) in our name, we have a say in what it does and how (and how much) it spends as citizens, not as federal taxpayers. There are plenty of non-citizens (e.g. green-card holders) who are federal taxpayers (income and payroll taxes), and plenty of not human persons (corporations) who pay federal taxes. Neither of those have a rightful, legitimate say in how the US Government acts and spends.
America is/has been running budget deficits which has removed (for now) the burden of the war on the people.
Corporations have 'feeling's too.@@stavroskarageorgis4804
I think America is fed up with these NEOCON-men that lied about Ukraine and thought they could get away with it.
Nah back to the netflix and CNN you all , there is nothing happen outside citizen .
This channel deserves much more to support it! One of the very best!! Keep up the GREAT work. Many of us are looking for the truth!!! Here we are!!!
a lot of the best channels tend to be less than 100k or even 50k imo
No it does not. It is nonsense.
You are apparently an authority on nonsense I'm sure.@@garyddlewis3067
@@rumination2399 This is frequently the result of algorithmic suppression and, in some cases, shadow banning. Most big tech corporations are in cahoots with state security services, and even where this is not active policy on the part of the corporations themselves they are nonetheless deeply penetrated.
@@garyddlewis3067 The dude is not as knowledgeable as many think. I was already tied of his words after only 7 minutes. He is either truly uneducated on the matter as a whole, or is purposely being disingenuous at best. However, it is not total nonsense. Of course, there is the old saying: The best lies are mixed with some truth.
"The secret of politics? Make a good treaty with Russia" Otto von Bismark
Bismarck again:" I know a hundred ways to pull Russian bear from its den, but no one - to pull him back. Do not tease the Russian bear! "
So Nuland can be seen also as western ukranian immigrant who has got to a position in which she can use american taxpayers money to figth Russia. Also US have to find a way how to make these nulands accountable for what they do. That could reduce suffering in the world remarkably.
see also Robert & Kimberly Kagan, Chrystia Freeland, et al
Nuland can be seen as a war criminal.
She is also connected to the ISW. It is run by her brother in law or sister in law. If my memory serves me correctly. Either way it is a whole interconnected group of bureaucrats and officials that forge foreign policy and use the world's population as chess pieces in their games.
@@anttiheiskala4660 Absolutely. Nuland should be in prison.
Would be a good thing for humanity if they could find a peace deal that works.
They had a chance for a deal not to mention that they could have prevented it in the first place.
No, that would be a bad thing for humanity, because any peace deal will be broken by Ukraine, who has demonstrated it's Nazi credentials and needs to be swept clear of all Nazis. That is done via war, not via folding like a lawn chair.
But Victoria Nuland and gangs wouldn’t allow it, would they?
Ukraine's government will have to collapse before they are willing to acknowledge reality.
First You have to get rid of Zelenski and his Government.
EU values: you will own nothing and you'll be happy
Klaus for sure doesn't want to own anything.
Russia's values: you own nothing and shut up.
UE pod okupacja nazistowskich zydow
There will be no negotiating for peace with the West, instead Russia will demand unconditional surrender. Peace
My understanding is that this surrender will not be like the surrenders of the past. These are brotherly nations. You quarrel with your brother but you really do not want to exterminate your mother's son.
Probably yes, and this would be fair, because the West & Ukraine have already shown their complete inability to negotiate, treachery & deceit.
Russia's demands are very reasinable
@@woodforthetrees3496that ship has sailed after Istanbul and Minsk. The Kiev regime will be removed at the end of this conflict.
@@woodforthetrees3496ah ok. 👍🏼
A very insightful discussion, the scenarios expounded by professer Petro are the only logical way forward for Ukraine. It will be difficult however for the political classes in Kyiv to publicly acknowledge that they have been played by the US and its western allies which is effectively what serious negotiations with Russia would require. Professer Petro is quite correct In his assertion that the West can play no useful part in any future settlement. Indeed its intentions would almost certainly be nefarious.
Agree, and Zelensky is so heavily identified with this pro-NATO agenda (he is their totem figure, in a sense he is NATO's and G7's alibi for not wanting to take up any negotiations with Russia) that he will have to go too. He can play no useful role at all in ending this war.
Nope, wrong.
First Ukraine needs to get rid of Zelensky the comedian.
The clown more like it.
Z. Was put in place by Ukrainian , globalist oligarchs , along with the us.
Putin goes first.🤡.
Elensky's just a puppet, he's irrelevant.
@@garyddlewis3067 Well, that's not happening, so start accepting reality.
It is amazing zelensky is still in power considering what he and his group have done to the fabric of the ukraine and the area, did they not see what had become of other proxy nations used by the US?
why do you think those in power in Ukraine were chose by the US ? they are as corrupt as willing to sacrifice everything Ukraine for their own benefit.
He is still in power because of the backing of the US (and its deputies the UK and EU), that's the critical factor. Without the heavy political and strategic backing of the US; his loud and aggressive Chutzpah strategies vs Europe would never have worked either. He was given so much of what he asked, demanded, pushed for, *because* everyone knew that the US expected him to be supported.
Yes, Those proxy nations were discarded like used condoms. Ukraine will be as well.
This is why Zelensky was chosen, promoted and anointed for this role. There is not a statesmanly cell in his body. No other country on the Western borders of Russia has such lunatic hostility to almost half it's own population, or such naive leadership.
He never cared about his nation
It only gets worse from here for Kiev
Remember " F... the eu " ?
Those Russian planted seperatists that Putin put in Ukraine to cause civil unrest so he can send his army there? Ah yeah, we remember, we remember how UKRAINIANS wanted to be more like the west and NEVER UNDER RUSSIA AGAIN. We remember very clearly.
Violence in the world has to stop imidiatly. Let the warmongers fight, nobody should fight in their place. If we want to save the life on the planet, that is what we should join to do. Be friends, treat other people nice as we want others to do to us. Boycott weapon industry, join to demand peace. How is it possible to make a very strong union for peaceful living?
ahahahahahahahahaha....someone's been living under a rock for the last 300K years.
Lovely presentation Pascal & Proff Petro 👏👏. Thank you both I too was taken aback by some of these more positive possibilities... However, I have a hard time believing the peoples of the Donbas & Lugansk regions, who indeed voted overwhelmingly for Russian citizenship/protection after the utter failure/betrayal of Minsk x2; who have been merciously targeted, abused & violently outcast for normal practice of their Russian culture & language; and who have also been outright murdered on daily basis directly by their 'brotherly-fellow' Ukrainians since 2014 right after the Maidan Coup... I find it difficult to believe they would ever want to or could actually trust in being a safe & welcomed to integrate back within the new, neutral 1-Ukraine ...🙏✌️💯
Not in a million years will they go back to those murderers. But coming to some sort arrangement with Rest-Ukraine IF Rest-Ikraine sees that they have been used and tricked and betrayed by the even worse murderers in the West? I definitely think they would (and should) do it, even if they have to hold their noses because of the nazi stench. Arrestovich has often talked about how Ukraine should basically switch sides over to Russia because the West, not Russia, is Ukraine's true enemy. Russia wouldn't exactly love it if Ukraine tried to actually tried to follow Arrestovich's advice this late in the Game, because they rightly think that the people in charge IN Ukraine are absolute scum, nazis, terrorists and murderers, they would very much want to see them get their richly deserved, harsh punishment, especially seeing as Russia was forced to spend so much lifes and treasure to crush these rotten bastards. But ultimately pragmatism would always win out on the russian side and they know perfectly well that for Russia too the West is the TRUE enemy. They also surely fully realize that strategically and diplomatically turning Ukraine around, Ukraine publicly demouncing it's treacherous western masters and basically becoming a potential attackdog for Russia instead of for the West would be a gigantic win for Russia and a titanic, unimaginable defeat and global loss of face and credibility for NATO. Obviously the Ukrainians would have to jump through a lot of hoops to prove it is serious about turning against the West.
Not in a million years will they go back to those murderers. But coming to some sort arrangement with Rest-Ukraine IF Rest-Ikraine sees that they have been used and tricked and betrayed by the even worse murderers in the West? I definitely think they would (and should) do it, even if they have to hold their noses because of the nazi stench. Arrestovich has often talked about how Ukraine should basically switch sides over to Russia because the West, not Russia, is Ukraine's true enemy. Russia wouldn't exactly love it if Ukraine tried to actually tried to follow Arrestovich's advice this late in the Game, because they rightly think that the people in charge IN Ukraine are absolute scum, nazis, terrorists and murderers, they would very much want to see them get their richly deserved, harsh punishment, especially seeing as Russia was forced to spend so much lifes and treasure to crush these rotten bastards. But ultimately pragmatism would always win out on the russian side and they know perfectly well that for Russia too the West is the TRUE enemy. They also surely fully realize that strategically and diplomatically turning Ukraine around, Ukraine publicly demouncing it's treacherous western masters and basically becoming a potential attackdog for Russia instead of for the West would be a gigantic win for Russia and a titanic, unimaginable defeat and global loss of face and credibility for NATO. Obviously the Ukrainians would have to jump through a lot of hoops to prove it is serious about turning against the West.
Not in a million years will they go back to those murderers. But coming to some sort arrangement with Rest-Ukraine IF Rest-Ukraine sees that they have been used and tricked and betrayed by the even worse murderers in the West? I definitely think they would (and should) do it, even if they have to hold their noses because of the nazi stench. Arrestovich has often talked about how Ukraine should basically switch sides over to Russia because the West, not Russia, is Ukraine's true enemy. Russia wouldn't exactly love it if Ukraine actually tried to follow Arrestovich's advice this late in the game, because they rightly think that the people in charge IN Ukraine are absolute scum, nazis, terrorists and murderers, they would very much want to see them get their richly deserved, harsh punishment, especially seeing as Russia was forced to spend so much lifes and treasure to crush these rotten bastards. But ultimately pragmatism would always win out on the russian side and they know perfectly well that for Russia too the West is the TRUE enemy. They also surely fully realize that strategically and diplomatically turning Ukraine around, Ukraine publicly demouncing it's treacherous western masters and basically becoming a potential attackdog for Russia instead of for the West would be a gigantic win for Russia and a titanic, unimaginable defeat and global loss of face and credibility for NATO. Obviously the Ukrainians would have to jump through a lot of hoops to prove it is serious about turning against the West.
That idea is never suggested by either Petro or Lottaz. As a matter of fact Kherson, Crimea, Donetsk & Lughansk are by law part of Russia, and cannot therefore become pawns in some peace proposal. My view, due to the military necessity, is that Russia will take, Odessa, Mykolaiv, Kherson, Zaporizhia, Dnipropetrovsk, Donetsk, Luhansk, Kharkiv, & Crimea, leaving a rump Ukraine. It is if Ukraine wants to be that RUMP UKRAINE that they will become neutral. Not to get occupied land back, but to keep anything at all. Putin is on record just recently that he will push the line of contact back to prevent missiles from reaching Russia proper.
They know it is not "the Ukrainians" but the fanatical banderites and russophobes that are hurting them and have to defeated. Western media and discussions almost always fail to make that distinction clear, but present it as "Russians vs. Ukrainians", which is the false Nato propaganda.
US, "the West", needs to get out Ukraine and Russia's business, and out of Eurasia and the Arab Asia region, and stay out. Let them deal with the problems of their own countries.
Свежо предание но серится с трудом. Даже во время последней агонии рейха народ и армия не обратили оружие против своего фюрера, потому как понимали, что замазаны ВСЕ. На Украине та же фигня...
Свежо питание, да серится с трудом...
Pascal's passion for peace and his success in finding the best people to describe it to us is one of the most beautiful things in existence right now.
Pascal, your show is getting better and better. Thank You. Your show is important.
Russia and Ukraine has shown that they have some of the most talented people in the world, so for Ukraine to be used against Russia in a war that brings only pain and sorrows for both parties. ❤
Russia, however, will never give up the eastern provinces of Donets and Luhansk, as well as Crimea. Ukraine will have to give up this dream!
Ukraine has been usurped and is serving an agenda of evil against the only European country that stands in the way of their world dominance. Russia!!!
It was America's dream - Ukraine was just the means of achieving domination over Russia.
This is the second of your podcasts i've watched, and I must say it puts most others to shame. The level of detailed context and intelligent discourse on difficult geopolitical issues is superb. Thank you for your work.
Wake up, they got a wake up two years ago and they still went to war
Thank you gentlemen! A very engaging conversation.
You must have watched a different you tube channel to this one.
One of the wisest in-depths views. I will spread it out.
Nope, complete nonsense.
I haven't heard such a wise and historically correct commentary for a long time. I agree with all you said. Being Polish by ancestry, I have always known that America and the West will always try to pit the Slavic nations against one another as and to weaken or destroy them. And it's all about their need to control and exploit Eastern and Central Europe. Nothing else,! And yes, we Slavs are brothers, we can all understand one another just speaking our native languages. I'd say that about 70% of Russian, Polish, Ukrainian, Belarusian and Slovak languages contain the same or very similar vocabulary. My heart is bleeding when I see all these poor people, who speak the same language, kill each other, spurred hate and lies and fake promises.
yup,but its better for russi to resolve onclifct not by killing but by using money and cutlural influcne. we slavs often killed each other in worst possible ways.heck poland expanded on expanse of east slavs when it was on peak of its power. also west and even germanic naions are far from unifeid and wit hsupposed sharfed goals. funy that germanic nasion in origin uk stood by russia in ww1 against germnaic naion called Germany.Or that they stood by Poland and later Ussr in ww2.
I'm not as sanguine. The Ukrainian ultra-nationalists have passed into law that only groups speaking languages that are official languages of the EU will have their rights protected. Western Ukraine has now adopted into official law the beginnings of what will be the permanent outlawing of Russian culture, religion, and language, under the argument all of these are dangers to the safety of the state. This is only the beginning of a massive ethnic cleansing / ethnic erasure on the magnitude of what happened to ethnic Germans after World War 2. And the Baltic states I fear are sliding towards the same process. I believe at one point it would have been relatively easy to have negotiated Ukraine's membership in the EU but militarily being neutral similar to Austria, but the nationalists are making a strong argument that western Ukraine needs to be forcibly kept from joining the EU as well. The dynamics are resembling that of World War 1 where stupidly all sides decided to fight to the finish, destroying every single empire on the European continent. Every single one was mortally wounded, even in retrospect the British Empire. The United States regards itself as the winner no matter what happens because an excuse was given for blowing up the Nordstream gas pipelines. Germany may turn out to be the biggest loser, because Germany's project since the 1800s had been to use its business acumen to exploit Russia's resources.
Largely true, but remember that "what one man sees as cooperation for mutual benefit , another man (or the media in another country) will see as "dependency or exploitation". The US always likes to describe any trade relationship, any military alliance where they are not taking a leading role as "exploitative" or "forced dependency" while their own relationships are always described in terms of "free trade deals", "first among equals", "friendly alliance" etc. Russia, China and Germany could well help each other's long-term economic growth but the US would have none of it; they always want the global axis of both economics, trade and politics to be placed across the North Atlantic, between themselves and the UK.
"If you want defeat Russia on the battle field its your own palava" says Russian Foreign Minister Lovrov
How can a country like Russia with 4000+ nukes ever lose a war against NATO or the US?
Russia is fighting the SMO with the tip of its one little pinky. This alone speaks volumes. Considering they could deploy 3.5 million troops at any moment they wished.
5000+
Thanks! it is true as Pascal says, Dr. Petro's words leave a hope that appears reachable !
Fruitful conversation.Excellent guest, excellent interlocutor, both also listening and willing to learn. And yes, Professor Nicolai N. Petro's concrete and positive outlook shows a possible way out of this mess.
Complete and utter nonsense.
I highly commend and applaud every one here in this comment section and this channel. Every one here is mature, grown up and although have opposing or conflicting views, are still very polite and open to dialogue. 🙌🙌🙌bless u all
Another excellent interview Pascal, thank you.
Are you serious. It is nonsense.
Explain to me what is nonsense Please
@@dinnerwithfranklin2451 This video.
Nonsense because... reasons. I see the quality of your criticism now.
@@dinnerwithfranklin2451 Russia attacked Ukraine but apparently it is the west fault not Russia. Ukraine defends itself and apparently they are Nazis for doing so. Over 40 countries are supplying military aid and over 50 countries economic aid to Ukraine but they are fools and idiots unlike the Russians who are noble liberators despite starting this war. Bucha, shallow graves in forests outside Kharkiv and the torture chambers in Kherson where children were taken to be tortured says they are not noble liberators.
The usa will keep it going unfortunately.
bidens, blinkens, nulands, Sullivans, mayorkas are not usa !!!...
It calls RUSOPHOBIA since 1000 of years not only Napoleon /all of Europe/ and Hitler /all of Europe/.
The US supporting Ukraine has actually destroyed Ukraine. The war would have been over a long time ago. Instead Ukraine was able to continue fighting at the cost of a huge number of it's young men. It will take Ukraine decades to recover from this.
That's what proxy wars are all about.
so by our accoutn ussr and china are reposonsible for death of million of vietnnamese cause they supplied them agaisn imperliast superpower whcih medddled in regiion. Its rusian army whcih is doing killking the ukrianisn and that mind you afer accusing west lying about russia planining on attacking ukriane which was one of most pathetic diplomatic displayes of 21st century on par with wiht muricans.
On our tax money,i never supported them fucks.
It will never recover,never.
Great deep analysis by mr. Petro. Well explained.
I like this wording: the US "encouraged" France and Germany...😂❤
Proxy war. Zelensky vs zeluzhny in the middle of war. Russia defeated NATO inside Ukraine
Russia hasn’t defeated Ukraine let alone NATO.
Russian casualties 360,000. NATO casualties nil. Bizarre victory.
@@garyddlewis3067 lmao, keep coping fascist
Nato's proxy army over 400.000 dead. Is Nato proud of its making?
I don't think the Russian diplomacy is that sophisticated. It's just adults looking at a situation objectively and then saying thing that are rational; this is our redline, we told you that, it is a fair redline to draw but you ignore it so we have no choice but to do something about it. Now they are winning because they employed a sensible strategy and they have the upper hand to dictate their terms, which again are based on their redlines. It is the west that have lost all sense of diplomacy because they are so used to getting their way that they didn't have to practice diplomacy - compromises, treating other people's interests with respect, equal level of consideration etc. etc. It is the west that's being foolish that it made simple diplomacy look sophisticated.
laughable drivel.
Very good talk .
No it was not.
"Ukraine Will Ditch Neocon Hawks" Mark my words, they won't! People tend to forget how hard it is to overthrow a government, especially internationally supported like Ukraine.
all we want is peace trade with each other and respect eachs culture and way of doing things.We are all here for a short time lets enjoy it.
Very human although i dare you to explain your views to the neocons.
Thank you gentlemen! Very interesting perspectives from Professor Petro 🤔
Nope, wrong.
🆘with due respect, the current leadership of UA is unable to do anything but to follow the instructions from abroad. 👿
Nonsense.
You don't know about a single instruction made by anyone. lol
@@nimmha6708 Translate into English.
This man is true expert in Geopolitics.
Excellent commentary. Thank you.
Nope.
I am a new subscriber to this channel. Nicolai N. Petro makes good sense to me. He is objective in his thinking and appropriately balanced. We live in Australia, Queensland, and can report that the Australian (ABC) are juandiced against Russia.
Such common sense Nikolai. Good on you.
Spanish liberal and very Atlantist paper, El País , openly admits today that Russia has won the war, and conversations are going on for Ukraine to admit the loss of territory for good. The paper has an English edition.
Their views are irrelevant. Ukraine views are the nes that count and they know they are winning.
@@KettleBell-it4pm You are delusional. A professional army with tanks is a joke. Pre war Russia boasted it outgunned Ukraine 20 to 1 and after 2 years of war you are boasting how your army has not collapsed. Your economy will though.😂😂😂.
@@KettleBell-it4pm 360,000 casualties and counting. 700,000 people fled the country in 2022. Oil and gas 45% of the tax base and 25% of the economy with revenues down 65% in 2023. Interest rate 16%. Draconian rules regarding foreign exchange. February 2022 national wealth fund 143 billion now 69 billion. A country falling apart at the seams.
@@KettleBell-it4pm I am fine which is more than be said of the relatives of 100,000 plus dead Russians or the 250,000 or so injured Russians many with life changing injuries. From we can take Kyiv in 3 days to boasting about Avdiivka in 2 years. From the second best army in the world to begging Iran for crappy drones and North Korea for out of date shells. You people make a fool of yourself every day and are too doppy to realise it.
@@KettleBell-it4pm Your casualty figures are made up nonsense. You have no credibility. There is no shortage of food, water or electricity in Ukraine. Your economy cannot even produce enough eggs and there are electricity shortages all over Russia. 40% of Russians do not even have indoor toilets. Aid is not being held up. Again Russian nonsense. EU 50 billion euros in aid. As for military aid Germany 7.4 billion euros from Germany, 2 billion from The Netherlands, 1.8 billion from Norway, 1.8 billion from Denmark, 75 million from Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania and 2.5 billion pounds from the UK. These are just what is publicised. Over 40 countries providing military aid to,Ukraine. Russia has to pay for everything, no one is helping Russia. Why do you think that is. The Italian Parliament has just voted to continue to provide aid to Ukraine in 2025. The EU is setting up a fund of 5 billion euros to allow Ukraine to buy weapons direct from the manufacturers. You are making a fool of yourself.😴😴😴.
You shouldnt dismiss Medvedev and Putin statements that the time for negotiation is over and that they will finish the job on the battlefield
Delusional.
Alexander Mercurous and Alex Chitsoforou have the best geopolitical analysts around.
Garland Nixon, and Colonel Douglas Macgregor are good too.
@@celticgold4028 And Scott Ritter and Judge Napolitano too.
Professors Jeffrey Sachs and John Mearsheimer. Jaques Baud.
Ex-CIA analysts Larry C. Johnson and Ray McGovern.
German retired General Harald Kujat!
hope you are right.
The Professor of URI, neck of the wood; I am from the area too. Good insights, Prof.
Long live peace lovers
Let’s hope so !!!
John Myersharmer predicted it all , hope you have the answers
I think Mr. Petro is downplaying not the extreme difficulty , but the impossibility, to transition from a basically mafiosi society with zero democratic tradition into a modern democratic one. Particularly with an almost inexistent state, a devastated economy , millions of it’s citizens having abandoned the country,profound internal fratricide hatred derived from the war etc… This is an extremely week point from Mr. Petro. Wishful thinking, and I mean no offense. 😊
You might start with lower expectations. The least countries in the world are considered democracies and even within the group of democracies there are huge differences regarding participation, freedom of each individual etc. A genuine partner could help to fight corruption instead of keeping it alive as it has been for quite some time. That could stop if the country is no longer a toy for global interests/geopolitics. But yeah the planning and work that needs be done to allow Ukraine and its citizens to have a future worth living there, must be very well thought through. Wont be easy thats for sure
Ukraine is already owned bu Black Rock. Since the USA 2023 already made the deal for the rebuild of Ukraine after the war. So what will be left of Ukraine will be poor no mater what.
This why Fox news removed Tucker Carlson.
Great point. Why can’t the Ukrainians see that?
Because they are never going to surrender to Russian agreesion.
Your book title should have been The tragedy of the USA
Overdue
Thank you for this unusual analysis. It ended on an optimistic note. The real drag on a negotiated settlement is as always the arrogance of the Western powers.
But civilized prevent peace and this are results. USA and GB and EU know from the start UA will not win RU but purpose was hurt RU not defeat it. We train UA army since 2014 and we prepare them good but now that army is gone and this army from street will never do any differences.
Excellent presentation on the current status of Ukraine.. thank you..
No it was not.
“It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal.” ― Henry Kissinger
Pascal thanks for your great work.
Every day counts, but their grey matter is processing at breakneck speed -- tortoise.
Over the time of the cold war there was never as difficult situation as we having now ,why is it now? Communism was not designed to compete economically ,now when Russia has fallen to a stage of competition it will be challenged by dominant powers.
100% right
You don't think Berlin crisis & subsequent airlift were difficult? You think cuban missile crisis wasn't difficult? You think '73 mideast war wasn't difficult? You know squat....you were probably born in the '90s, ignorant and proudful
So....this channel deleted my comments? I used no profanity, I didn't defame. I simply pointed out to another guy's comment (also deleted) his claim that present time is worse than anything in Cold War. I simply asked if he thought Berlin crisis & the subsequent airlift were "nothing" I asked if Cuban missile crisis was a big "nothing" I asked if he thought '73 mideast war...was "nothing" For those questions I get deleted. Wow! I'll be sure and spread the word about THIS channel, for sure
Absolutely profound, historically and politically correct assessment of the causes of the conflict and Russia’s intentions. Wish the governments of EU had that wise and based of facts & figures understanding
Good Nicolai
You forgot about the banning of the Russian language. Ukraine has to apologize.
Most of them speak Russian.
Nonsense. Zelensky is a Russian speaker.
@@garyddlewis3067 ¿????
Sent in rich families children. poor people are not going.good luck ivy league class of Oxford or Georgetown.take whole class .
Excellent! Thank you!
No it was not.
Thank you Pascal for all your efforts to keep striving for peace. Please do, your efforts will have REAL REALITY results. God❤ is supporting all your work and believe that very soon CLARITY will bring an end to all the horrific ongoing conflicts. Great interview as usual! Ukranians will change/wake up from their foolish ways and negotiate peace with their brother Russia.
Very interesting conversation. Thanks for sharing!
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Thank you for your recommendation of this book. It has many positive reviews.I have just acquired it on Audible
good idia
Adorable.
There isn't any problem with the war, and the "failed narrative" ie some misinterpretation of Russian motives is a side issue of zero importance. What needs to be done is to have the war run to it's conclusion, as the Russians are currently doing. The Russian plan to defend it's security was correct and remains ethical. The Russian plan to fight in Donbas to protect Russian speakers against the Nazi influences in Kiev was/is correct & ethical. Even the Russian methodology of war, whereby they first did a demonstration influx of military & then withdrew to fight on the border is correct & ethical as it was a show of intention that gave Ukraine a motivation to drop the US baton and save itself. The Russians might appreciate some suggestions by Petro, if he had any that were more ethical or more effective than what they are doing, but he does not. In fact what is correct is that we SUPPORT the Russians in their fight against Nazi influence in Ukraine. Not neutrality, not a cease-fire. Not a peace under terms that would simply rearm Ukraine and re-infest it with US CIA influencers for a decade, so that an even more violent conflict would be inevitable. The US needs to be kept out of Ukraine permanently, and that means Russia has to completely re-engineer Ukraine by war into a neutral state, period. Talk about narrow & unproductive thinking - Pascal is an ostrich with his head in the sand and his guests NEVER see that simply put; Russia is right. Not just more powerful than Ukraine, but RIGHT.
You are nailed on JS. Unfortunately, I don't think that any decision makers in the US or Europe will see things that clearly.
Harmful rhetoric that makes the peace process and negotiations impossible and leads to endless confrontation. We must strive for a political order where Ukrainians and Russians could coexist as equal nations and equal cultures and have at least a minimal idea of mutual tolerance and acceptance of their own differences. You say that Western influence makes war impossible. No less than the cultural and heritage of the Russian Empire and the Soviet Union, which normalizes anti-Ukrainian racism, which is an even bigger problem than anti-Russian racism, because racism against Ukrainians is racism against a vulnerable ethnic group that lived as a minority without its own state for a long time. part of their own history. No one would argue against idea that Ukrainians were historically and now less successful than Russians. But thinking that because of this Russians have legitimate reasons to attack Ukrainians and push politics which weakened Ukrainians is as stupid as think that man should have right to attack woman and because females were less successful historically.
doesn't matter if Russia is right or not. what does matter is power. power as the ability to force its own will unto another. that's what US was doing from the beginning, since USSR's end. as long US is able to force Ukraine, EU, UK to threaten Russia, there cannot be an end to this conflict. as long US stays in power globally there is nothing that could "keep it out of Ukraine permanently". sound fancy the "re-engineering" of Ukraine by war into a "neutral state". but as long US is in power globally, there is no way this can happen. you can set your "period" as forceful as you will, doesn't matter. cause US remains still in power. that's why Russia is not only fighting on the battlefield in Ukraine but works on reshaping the global power structure as well. that's also why Russia is fighting a slow war of attrition, to give the shifting of the power structure enough time. there is no fast victory, never was although Russia has hoped there is still some reason left in the West. Russia realised, there isn't. that's why Russia has to take the long way, cause the short was always an illusion after the end of USSR.
@@xxvxxv5588 - (34:15) Pascal hits the nail on the head with this statement: "I do hope that Ukraine will have a prosperous future but what it needs of course is the will, the will to surrender and then to actually rebuild a good future." This statement (a slip perhaps?) aligns perfectly with my comment urging direct support for Russia's ethical goals as the most direct means to a real solution of the security problems that started this war and thus as the best means to it's end. Thanks, your anti-Russia/Soviet bigotry didn't add a thing. If you don't know the REASONS Russia initiated it's SMO, then don't advertise it here by twisting my words to suit your lack of understanding. Thanks.
@@xxvxxv5588 your statement that "anti-Ukrainian ra_ism.... is an even bigger problem than anti-Russian raci_m, because rac_sm against Ukrainians is rac_sm against a vulnerable ethnic group that lived as a minority without its own state for a long time" is based on a very biased western narrative. Ukrainians were/are not a "vulnerable ethnic group". When Ukrainian SSR was created by the Bolsheviks in early 1920s, the soviet government assigned it a territory that was larger than that occupied by Ukrainians/Ukrainian speakers - this is how Donbas became part of Ukraine. In 1954 they further expanded Ukraine by taking Crimea from the Russian SSR and "giving" it to the Ukrainian SSR. Under USSR, Ukrainian SSR was one of the most developed and prosperous "republics", much more prosperous than Russia. The soviets promoted Ukrainian language and culture. In 1991, when USSR dissolved, the population of Ukraine was 50 million. It was during 30+ years of independence that Ukraine's population shrunk to 44 million prior to the conflict; it will be smaller still once it is over. During 30+ years of independence, Ukraine also became one of the poorest de-industrialized countries in Europe. If this proxy war against Russia continues, seemingly to the satisfaction of our congressmen and administration, Ukrainians might indeed become a vulnerable ethnic group. Finally, the word "racism" is inapplicable in relations between Ukrainians and Russians. Both peoples belong to the same racial, ethnic, and linguistic group of Eastern Slavs. Their current dislike of each other is based in ethnic, cultural, state, and military hostilities rather than "raci_m."
I would like to find another way to resolve the Ukraine conversation - partner mistrust. In Germany, the political situation is in favor of the current coalition and opposition parties like Merkel CDU I would like to find another way to resolve the Ukraine conversation - partner mistrust. In Germany, the political situation is in favor of the current coalition and opposition parties like Merkel CDU. The AfD is the only peace party that would hold peace talks with Russia. Putin also knows the AfD, which has concluded a cooperation pact with Putin's party. The campaign of the the German government Scholz has been exposed due to a false conspiracy against the political opposition It was exposed and hundreds of thousands of people were incited against the right or right-wing extremists and thus against the AfD without any evidence. Such government demonstration usually takes place tol totalitarian states.
The EU, UK and US are bad faith actors and could possibly be not included in a Ukraine/Russia peace deal.
United Nations is the key in any negotiations...
Great article - and thank you both for this conversation !
The Ukraine people had made a big mistake to vote this comedian Zelinsky as their president, he will ruin the country.
They didn't.
Hahaha good joke. He was the best choice and is a hero now. The only one who is ruining Ukraine, is Putin and his bombs. The fact your brain even generates this little narrative in where it's Zelensky's fault, is hilariously sad.
Zelensky was voted in because He ran on peace platform with Russia, unfortunately USA and UK had different view !! So he lied to get in and Immediately went on war fotting and laundering of.billions of dollars!! Sold his soul for money like 98% would do!! Unfortunately even with all the villas and yachts he bought, he will have to watch over his shoulder for life!!! Hence why he wants to eliminate all the forces he has so noone goes after him for the destruction of Ukraine!!
“Our principle is simple: Ukraine does not start a war first, but Ukraine always stands to the last man.” -Zelensky, 2021 Plus it is good business, look at all the weapons that need to be replaced in NATO + their allies.
by the time Zelensky is the last man he'll have left the country
Correct as Ukraine will win this war.
@@garyddlewis3067 Hey, Mr. President, so good to have you here!
@@SkyDiver-wd5oj My name is not Putin but if it makes you happy.
Great análisis Sr in your Chanel with Nikolai Petro. Many thanks to. both
Fino all'ultimo ucraino.
Thank you gentlemen for your insights, really enjoyed the video. God bless Russia, and the people's president. So in awe of his intelligence, self control, and determination. He also gathered really good people around him.
Complete nonsense.
In my opinion Russia should completely absorb Ukraine into Russia, minus the 3 far west regions and hand them over to their old European powers, Poland, Hungary and Romania.
Probably the actual final settlement.
You are not delusional then.🤮🤮🤮.