Why You May NOT Want An Ultrawide Monitor For Gaming
2022 ж. 2 Там.
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After my first time trying a 34 inch Ultrawide monitor, I realized there was one big reason to not get one for gaming.
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I can attest to the fact that Dawid was very sad with his previous monitor when he switched back to it after his time with ultra 😅
Did he have to give back then? I thought he got to keep it.
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once you go ultrawide you never go back
Was there a noticeable difference in framerate?
@@andiharvey4110 i think less than 10 frames because u have some more pixels to render in.
The description of how going from 16:9 to 21:9 is underwhelming, but going the opposite direction is a huge difference is how I felt getting a high refresh rate monitor. At first 144hz felt no better than 60, until I tried going back to 60.
@Mr Pais if you search 144hz monitor you get multiple options for $150-200.
@Mr Pais ???
@Mr Pais no.... no they are not lol, a 360hz is 500
Right there with ya. 60hz is so unplayable now.
Indeed, I can't go back
21:9 is criminally underrated. I swapped to a 1440 144hz 34" a few years ago and I can't go back. Such a nice experience, if you have a pc to push it properly of course. It's not easy to run in some modern titles.
Yup, I went from a 27" 144Hz to a 35" 100Hz and that loss of Hz in almost all games won't bother me nearly as much as the loss in screen real estate. I do think the frame sync on the ultrawide really helped smooth things out.
i dunno, i went with a 16:9 with the specs you listed. still get a lot of that periphery feel, but it plays nicer with text and movies and such. it's only on some fps'es where my housemate's ultrawide is more enjoyable.
That’s true, although modern GPUs do handle it way better than they did five years ago. 😁
A GTX 1060 handled 3440 x 1440 very well back in 2016-2017 titles imo. Battlefront, The Witcher 3, Mass Effect Andromeda, ESO, DOOM 2016, Rise of the Tomb Raider were graphically demanding games that could run well in the 50-60 fps margin with medium to high settings.
I guess 3360x1440 would do really well for proper 21:9
If you play MMOs at all, Ultrawide is amazing. It lets you move UI elements off to the side that you don't need to see 24/7 (but still want to be able to see the information at a glance) and gives you extra FOV.
im building my new pc to prepare for the new mmos, i was looking at oled monitors but i feel im gonna settle for an ultrawide ips in the end :) excited to experience it many ppl say its great for mmos
@@ecostiwhat is an actual cool MMOs beside wow?
@@Shad0wmar hmmm well depends on ur taste brothet , for me wow its boring and not a good mmo , it is succesful and i cant deny that its the favourite of many people but its not for me. The only mmos that manage to really keep me around was lineage 2 and archeage , beyind that gw2 was not bad either but it didnt not keep me interested for long time. Bdo its fun but feels like a single player mmo like everything else , after playing lineage 2 for almost 2 decades it kind of ruined my mmo experience cz it set a bar , like some standards for me. So for me its throne snd liberty and ashes of creation , for now im skiping mmos , pax dei could be interesting too :)
@@ecosti is there a way to play l2 with good graphics?
@@Shad0wmar no brother :/ and its old gsme sadly and not worth to invest ur time into it , maybe some private server for fun
A lot of games let you adjust the HUD area so stuff like the minimap doesn't get pushed into your peripheral vision. I tend to push the hud to be roughly where it would be in 16:9, which also allows me to crop the capture in OBS if I want to stream or record in 16:9 while actually playing in 21:9
And in most games you can just play in windowed mode to play at 16:9 I do that if I want a video on in the background
That's a really good point! Also, any games that just plain don't support that, there's the option to run them in a 16:9 resolution then set the resolution scaling to "No scaling" & "Perform Scaling on GPU" in Nvidia Control Panel (I'm sure there's a similar option for AMD cards, I just don't have experience with AMD), so you get black bars on the left and right of the monitor.
That’s a good point, although I couldn’t find that setting in Dota. I’ll go have a look again, thanks for the suggestion.
@@DawidDoesTechStuff MANY MANY FPS games have a screen "SAFE" Zone or "HUD" area adjustment. I game on a 35" 1440p Sceptre and my HUD is always at 16:9. That Cropping idea for OBS is Legendary @O-A thanks for that. As for DOTA? If they don't have HUD adjustments... that would REALLY suck. I wonder if League does...
@@DawidDoesTechStuff If you find out you can change the HUD elements for your favorite games, we need a youtube short of you finding the setting, saying "no waaaaay" and facepalming yourself so hard, you fall out of the chair. But Dota may just be lame when it comes to HUD adjustment honestly.
having a vertical 16:9 beside my 21:9, I instantly felt the huge positive impact the ultrawide provided for my daily work the added FOV in ultrawide-supported games, not so much, but it is still very appreciable, especially in exploration-type games like No Man's Sky
For me the extra width par nice with a 1000r curve, i finetune the fov ingame so that when im in the sweetspot my peripheral vision feeds info from the flanks while the larger 34" makes 1440 a little bigger image so it counters the increased fov shrinking the centre of the image. The curves compensate for the distortion on the sides for the peripheral view :) if you spend a few hours fiddling with this it makes the world of difference for fpv and racing games. In the races u now see a car if it come up on your sides, its quite cool? to get this effect just 10 years ago u had to have minimum 3 monitors. And finding models that matched and had small bezels was a HARD game
I got an ultrawide a few months ago, and my god, it won't transform your gaming experience, but it will definitely enhance it, and in 3rd person games especially its amazing.
@@SimonWoodburyForget a lot of games let you configure this and some has patches to fix it, sadly not all, but we're slowly moving to it
@@SimonWoodburyForgetafter more than 1.5 years of using an ultrawide (16:9 + 21:9 setup actually) my biggest concern is them 21:9 vids made 16:9
@@SimonWoodburyForget sorry m8 but what are you going on about? i am running a 21:9 and i do not have this issue!
I've had a couple of ultra wide screen monitors - kept selling them and getting "regular" monitors until I realize that I actually really like them for gaming - and working - so much space! I've got a Huawei Mateview GT and I absolutely love it. Love your videos - still binge-watching :D
Some games have Ultrawide options in their settings that can move HUD elements further in. Sometimes this happens automatically, other times you have to enable them. Still other times, and most of the time, really, you just get stuff moved off to the periphery. Mileage may vary depending on the game.
I have used curved monitors for a while and now I find it hard to use flat. However it is always best to put them on a vesa mount so that you have more flexibility over height and angle. Then it’s amazing. You are right that the curve somehow makes the positioning of the monitor relative to your head more important.
Well sad for you the curved cellphones didn't take off so you're stuck with flat ones. I can't find a picture of it online All I can find is stuff like the old Samsung phones that had Edge screens but I'm talking about one that was actually curved.
Please do a 32:9 monitor now. I've been using a Samsung 49" Super Ultrawide for the last year for gaming and for work, and will NEVER go back to anything less! I'd LOVE to see your take on it!
Went ultrawide back in 2017 and haven't looked back (flat though for me not curved). There are some tiny annoyances but ultrawide support has come a long way since even then. Flawless widescreen was almost a must have at that point.
Backlight flashing, overshoting and blury motion is VA panel's fault. When I upgraded from the old LG IPS 1080p ultrawide to 1440p 34" VA, I instantly disliked it for the same reasons. There was a ton of ghosting, black colors were getting smushed, blurry movement etc. But as luck would have it, the monitor had a cluster of dead pixels, so I was able to return it and get IPS 1440p 34" ultrawide and all of the issues were gone. Yes, IPS does have it issues like glow, but its not nowhere near as annoying as having multiple VA problems.
That does make sense considering when I tried a Samsung VA panel a while ago it had the same weird ghosting and smearing issues. Maybe a should do a “Why VA sucks” follow up.
I do notice the amount of ghosting on my 165hz VA monitor, but one thing for sure is those blacks are much nicer than IPS's. I think both are still generally good with each having its own up and downs.
@@DawidDoesTechStuff VA smearing can be erased by turning black stabilizer/gamma booster up a notch, as it prevents the pixels from going into deep black, the slowest part of VA pixel response. The trade off is you get IPS level blacks, but can be switched at will. The backlight flicker is usually a problem with Freesync/Gsync on these ultrawide VA panels. Turning it off usually fixes it.
@@DawidDoesTechStuff Most gaming VA panels are terrible when it comes to response times, AKA blurry/ghosting. For low-end to mid-range displays you want to go with IPS or TN. I say MOST though, high end Samsung has the best of both worlds, the contrast of a VA and the response times close to TN. My Odyssey G7 is amazing. The new Neo G7 and Neo G9s are even better apparently. The G9 range is Ultrawide if your interested. They are very expensive though. But since your running super expensive DIY speakers price probably isn't an issue.
Also one of the reasons i never buy a VA monitor, and always go for a IPS monitor.
I have had a flat LG UltraWide for 4 years now and I love it. Once you start using it, you can't go back to 16:9. Most games support 21:9 now. A lot of the games also allow you to adjust the Hud size/location now, but it never bothered me that much. I would always recommend 21:9 over 16:9. Not sure what to think of the curve as i have never experienced that.
I have a 34" Ultra-Wide and I love it in productivity and gaming. Mine got a Samsung VA Panel with really good colors and contrast. In terms of the UI elements I think in some games you can give them an offset at least in CSGO I know for sure
Dawid i had the exact same reaction as you. Initially wasn't that impressed, was thrown off by the curve, then went back to matching 24in monitors and i realized right away i could never do this again. Awesome vid as always.
Is 34" enough? I'm currently (and have for over a decade now) using 2x24". I feel like 49" is way to big but 34" feels like it's too small. I've found a couple 43" but they're all 1800r, and that large of radius isn't great.
@@corsairsofnarshaddaa It's pretty big, though it could be bigger. I'll be upgrading my 34 for the new 45 OLED ones that are coming out in a few months
Sounds like you should have stayed with flat panel then. Because you only know flat is bad when you go to this. But flat is good because I haven't experienced curved. You basically went to curved and walked away with "flat sucks" but not really being impressed with curved. Weird.
@@WhirlingMusic i went from first panel to extreme curve 1000r 32" G7. I've finally gotten used to it and do like it. it's my main monitor now. I'd definitely recommend starting off at a more gentle curve of 1800r to introduce yourself to the concept.
@@CMDZamora I have the G7 too and love how curved it is. I adjusted to it no problems, but i was already used to a curved TV since 2016 and have had 3 monitors curved and now an ultrawide curved that I just ordered. I don't think id ever go to flat panel again, unless its a TV. I will miss the 240 hz the G7 has since my ultrawide will become my main since its OLED but only 175hz. The G7 is just a fantastic monitor, though.
Love the videos! You put so much time and work into them and they make my day better
I'd love to see a comparison between an ultra wide and standard that are equal in width. I had a 32" monitor, and it was too big for my use case.
Switched to a 32 inch 1440p 144hz about a month ago and it has a 1000R curve which I really didn't like at first but after a few days I got used to it and absolutely love it it feels kind of like a flat display to me amazing what you can get used to
i love the FoV i have... im running on a 72" tv and 2 42"s in portrait mode... (im only missing a motion simulator/treadmill) the trick is to sit back far enough so it still takes up most of your active FoV so you can run it at max FoV and use the FoV to its max. the curve makes it easier for your eyes to adjust and focus.
Who knew Dawid could take 34 inches?
Linus and dawid upload a gaming monitor video at the same time, weird
coincidence? I THINK NOT
It's the collective Canadian conscience
they're both running on the same Canadian brainwaves
Sus😏
@@SMUltra hahaha it's the Canadian 5G syncing us.
I ran a 48" ultra wide curved monitor for months, then added another 24" monitor either side of it. Now running in 64:9 aspect ratio. No looking back, I love my setup, great for ATS and ETS 2, the 48" curved monitor is my truck windscreen, and the two side monitors are my side truck windows. Complete with Tobii5 head/eye tracker to make the experience even more emersive. Btw, it's not that hard to move maps about ! . Cheers
I've been using the Acer X34 Predator that I bought back in 2015ish and I'm still using it today, it was about 1100$ when I bought it but man has this been worth every penny. There are few items in my house that have gotten as much use as this monitor. ZERO regrets 7 years later.
I completely agree with this video: when I first upgraded from a flat 27" 1080p to a 34" flat 1440p ultrawide, it was a little bit overwhelming but you do adapt to it very quickly. Every game was such a pleasant experience. Now having jumped from 34" flat ultrawide to a Samsung G9 49" curved ultrawide was mind blowing and pretty overwhelming! (especially sitting 2-3 ft from it) League of legends took awhile to get used to which then becomes really awesome (and yes - you do turn your head from side to side just to see the mini map & read chat). Flying, racing, survival simulators such as Forza, Stranded Deep, The Forest and Flight Simulator are just a sight to behold and experience. You will have the biggest smile during the immersion. Finally, farming sims and 2D platformers are amazing to see on ultrawide. The extra vision of the environment is crazy cool and helps with how you envision your farm or what resources are around you. In Terraria you can see so far on either side to plan what you want to do next or see something hostile approaching you with time to react. Afterwards, I have tried to game on a 32" 1080p monitor on another system and just couldn't do it. The realization of being spoiled by having the extra real estate and the immersion provided by the aggressive curvature hit me pretty quick. I can't go back to 16:9 for gaming. All I have to say is get immersed & lost in your games and have fun.
You are the first one I've seen mentioning Terraria on a tech channel. I know from the Steam stats it's a very popular game, but it's never mentioned in the tech KZheadr space. The same goes for Stardew Valley, Paradox strategy games and truck simulators. I love my ultrawide for simulators as well and management games like Transport Fever. They have important HUD elements you want to see, but also good graphics. On a 16:9 the HUD covers up too much of the screen. On 21:9 you have a full 16:9 view of the game with important HUD stats on the edges.
Would be interesting to test some vert- games with it.
Switched to 21:9 about 6 months ago. It definitely took a day or two to get used to but it's really hard to go back after that. For office work and media creation the extra space is really usefull when you move your windows to be optimal. For gaming, I really love the peripheral vision for most FPS games (it really helps) and more cinematic 3rd person games.
So it's hard to go back because it's better than flat?
@@Vastfill it’s the same experience as using a high refresh rate/response time monitor, or HDR 10+ , once you go forward you CANT go back
Go up to 32:9 and even going back to 21:9 is hard.
Great video as always. We have had our Samsung C49RG QLED 32:9 for 3 years and it has been the best investment in a screen. In games like AOE4 we just play in the 16:9 window and can open Discord and Twitch next to it. But the screen is great for editing our videos.
I just switched to a 21:9 1440p QD-OLED monitor. And I agree that it's a bit disorienting at first. Top tip: Get the program named "Flawless Widescreen" to fix the FOV on games without an FOV slider or where cutscenes have 16:9 and black bars.
So, I don't have an ultra-wide configuration but I do use three monitors side by side which is technically wider. When he was describing seeing his room after switching back I can totally understand. Dropping down to even two monitors at this point would feel hella weird.
I used to game on triple monitors (1080). I enjoyed it. I switched to ultrawide and I have to say, I do miss triple monitors on occasion, but for non gaming reasons (multi tasking), but for gaming, it's very nice. I love them both, but I do love the 1440 real estate slightly more for gaming. Glad to hear you're still rocking that setup.
You can always run a custom resolution on the ultra wide and have black bar on the sides, so you have a standard 16:9 ratio screen in the centre
Defeats the whole purpose..
@@DrakonR well, yes, but for some games, the experience is better, so having the option is welcome
so on the sides are just black bars or is there a way to open like a browser on there and run it whilea game is running in 16:9
@@ariq5258 if you run in window mode, you can have other stuff on the side
I converted to an Ultrawide 1440p monitor about 3yrs ago 🥰👍 and I find going to a standard 16:9 monitor constrictive 😢. I got my brother an ultrawide for his DOTA2 gaming as he’s into some MMORPG / RTS game titles and he said he now prefers the ultrawide aspect to 16:9 as well. I know that ultrawide scan be polarising and disorientating for some, so it’s not for everyone. I love mine for single player titles and some FPS titles 😇🥰🤯
I got two Ultrawide monitors I am constantly using: Acer XR382CQK curved, 75 Hz, 38 inch, 3840 x 1600 resolution 75 Hz and Acer BX340CK flat, 60Hz, 34 inch, 3440 x 1440 resolution which has a 75Hz option but unfortunately only on Windows 7 (use it mostly for my laptop). They both have a really good IPS matrix with great color accuracy, contrast and backlighting and they don't tire my eyes out after long sessions of working, drawing, reading or gaming. I am so used to 21:9 now that I can say that once you go ultrawide you can't go back to 16:9 or the rest. :D Things are much more immersive and your workspace is much easier to organize on the extra width. Unless you play games like LOL or others similar that have non-arrangeable HUD as Dawid mentioned, I would say that 21:9 is better than the standard 16:9.
I went from a 16:9 to a 21:9 back to a 16:9 (OLED). I really liked the ultrawide. My only issue was that it seemed like there was always a "thing" you had to do or live with when using ultrawide resolutions. Either you must edit the executable to "support" ultrawide, have some screens 16:9 only, or have things like videos stretched. Amazing for productivity though!
i've got a 21:9 monitor and if a game has problems with these proportions i just set it to 16:9 with black bars on the sides, i have plans to get a 1440p 144hz one after getting an rtx 3070 😃
The HUD issues can be fixed by game developers, in GTA V for instance, the HUD is within the normal 16:9 space, but you just have more screen real estate. So it's the best of both worlds.
That’s a good point, unfortunately I don’t think valve has gotten that far with Dota yet.
Battlefield usually has a setting for it. And if the in game setting doesn't allow for enough movement, there is always a point in the ini files to move the HUD further.
@@DawidDoesTechStuff that's true, I think gta is the only game I've noticed so far, but I really like it.
while you can move the HUD in alot of games - you can't move it in alot more. your random anecdote about one single random game is odd and by no means the standard
@@whiskizyo2067 your comment is odd, I never said it was the standard, I merely gave an example as to how it could be "fixed", not by us obviously.
I used to have the Samsung 49" 32:9 monitor. Minimaps was a nightmare when trying to game on that massive screen. It was epic playing Forza or Dirt Rally and flight/space sims. Red Dead Redemption 2 had it's moments with the envelopment when out in the wild. But looking at the minimap felt like actually pulling out a real map and scanning for you location. And yes I do miss it...
Had a 34" 16:9 since 2015, upgraded to 49" 32:9. It is exactly the same when going from 16:9 to 21:9. I was really surprised how big of a chance it was (again).
went from a 23" 1080p to a 3440x1440 34inch ultrawide some time ago. For some reason I often get motion sick. Maybe upgrading to an ultrawide was not the best idea.
My issue with curved monitors is the view distance limitations. Sometimes I like to sit far away from my monitor to get comfy on a couch and with curved monitors, if you are too far back they're not an enjoyable experience to game on
That's where you need something like what LTT reviewed recently with a flexible display. Can be flat or curved.
Yeah that too. If I'm feeling really lazy I can lean back, loaf about, and with getting a significantly bigger monitor I feel like being able to use it as a TV to watch stuff with company starts being a consideration. Not sold on curved yet. Am pretty torn about ultrawide though. Like, I can literally see shit to the sides of my vision that's not my screen, and 24" is this really weird zone where the monitor is small enough I can still see not-monitor stuff everywhere, but too big for me to sit with my face right up next to it to fill my vision like I did with smaller displays. Would maybe 32" be big enough to fill up my periphery?
@@pandemicneetbux2110 Curved isn't worth it if you're going to be using it like a TV from distance too. The point of curved really is to beat gammashift/shitty viewing angles in VA panels when shitting close enough
@@STELLARINU uh, the whole poiint of me using it is because I sit literally less than a meter away from my screen, usually with my face pressed only 12 inches away if I can help it to increase the immersion. So, by that metric I am taking it that curved is the real way to go, because I want as much fine grain detail as I possibly can get packed into there. I guess the downside is these videos for 1080p I download look like ass even at 1440p. Sorry I should've clarified that, I sit right in front of my computer screen and don't have any use for a TV at all. Well I guess maybe that's a good point too, if I had company showing something on here a really big screen and some speakers may help whereas a widescreen is definitely that cargo shorts and fedora tier solo experience--but man, what a solo experience I bet it would be in Elite Dangerous
@@pandemicneetbux2110 dont forget about color shift on sides even with ips flat. Wait for oled
The experience you had going back to a 27" from the 34" is what I experienced when I tried using my 34" again after using a 48" OLED. A big 16x9 is the best of both worlds.
I recently went ultrawide for office work from a 3 monitor set-up (including laptop display). I discovered that unless you use a window manager utility like FancyZones and using the layout shortcuts, it would have been better using a 27 inch monitor and keep the laptop screen open, at least from how I do my work. There's too many unused spaces when opening two documents side-by-side, it's really distracting when looking from one document to the other. But with shortcuts, I can easily swap from a 3-column screen to 2-column one where one column occupies 2/3s of the screen (good for opening Word and a lengthy Excel file at the same time).
Finally... Wide Dawid
usually there is a setting in most games to set up the limits of the HUD this should fix the issue where the info is too much in your periphery.
You can just run a resolution that displays as a square (yes black bars) for games like Dota 2, that's what I do.
You have to lower the fov in this kind of display so you get a more consistent image instead of a "fish eye" image
I had switched to curved 34" ultrawide a few years ago and for most games I absolutely love it. I had a smaller 29" UW that I had picked up on a prime day bargain that had become my primary work monitor due to the ability to have essentially two 5:4 screens side by side which feels like the best configuration for my workflow (lots of terminal work). The only annoyances for me are when I watched 16:9 content; I didn't notice the curve at all in productivity but definitely prefer it for gaming where it makes for a more relaxed, natural-feeling field of view. That being said, I got bit by the 4K bug and recently went to a 43" 16:9 and I flip between which I prefer...for FPS I still prefer the UW I believe (even though you can fake the aspect ratio with a custom resolution on a large format display).
I lost my higher than 59.9Htz monitor virginity in 2020. Went to one monitor with 144...the rest take some time to warm up or figure out what life means today
I lost my 59.9Hz virginity when 8 upgraded to a 900 pound (got on sale for 600) gaming laptop with a 144Hz screen.
I lost it when I set my CRT to 85 Hz :D But yeah, been running 60+ since basically forever.
@@Pokecrazy The gaming laptop I upgraded to had a 60Hz screen but it died right after the year warranty expired.
yes.
I'm new to this and right now all I have is a single 4K60 display. I got it before I put together my PC (which can probably handle 4K at much higher than 60 fps), and it was the cheapest 4K display I could find at the time. When I got it I didn't even have anything that could go beyond 1080p. At this point I'm eyeing up the 1440p 240Hz display MSI has.
I've been gaming on ultrawide since 2018, and I CAN'T go back. I love playing single player games with the added immersion, and the extra fov is a huge help for pvp. I've got a 3440x1440 144hz 21:9 monitor and it's simply beautiful
I play mostly indie and older games and 21:9 monitor is pretty much useless... Also for coding and lot of productive stuff vertical space is still most important, I still hate that manufacturers stopped making 16:10 displays.
You're awesome. This was the most entertaining yet still very helpfull review I've seen in a long time. Thx bro🤜
I really like the down to the ground reviews of Dawid, them being sarcastic and still professionel - I really hope he gets more subscribers due to the fact that channels like LTT are getting more and more "sensational" crap that just lost its magic over time - due note that some videos from Linus are still good and valid.
LTT turned into the Jackasses of tech half a decade ago.
I like that you went back to a 16:9 to see how you felt going away from the 21:9. It's always easy to feel like it's minimal improvement when upgrading but, as the saying goes, "You don't know what you've got 'til it's gone." A few months ago I upgraded from a 1080p TV from 2011 to a 4k TV with HDR. I kinda noticed the upgrade and appreciated it, but I didn't feel it was a game changer. Then a few weeks later I decided to get a secondary display. I got a 1440p standard ratio display that didn't have HDR and I realized that I was already spoiled by 4k HDR. I had to return the 1440p display, even though it was still technically better than the last TV I had played on for 10 years it felt like a big downgrade compared to the 4k. However, your complaint about now seeing your room behind the monitor in your peripheral seems like a non-issue to me lol. To me that just says that your standard display is too small. My 4k is a 55" and it mostly fills up my vision from where I sit, about an arm and a half length away. So even if you get an ultrawide as wide as my TV, now you're missing the vertical part and can see beyond the display that way. And I can usually just scale my UI to free up more visual space in most games. And the ones I can't aren't usually the kind where it matters, anyways.
Anyway seems that those ultrawides are not in 4k versions only 1440p...
You sit way too close to that 55 inch. You have to constantly move your head around if the game or task fills stuff beyond the center. So you end up missing things live and/or tire out your neck
Hey Dawid, recently stumbled across your videos and you can consider me informed and entertained! (and subbed) Bought my Ultrawide (ASUS Designo Curve MX34VQ) about 5 years ago after changing from a 4K monitor that my old GTX 1080 couldn't do justice, the UW was still a bit of a push for the old GTX but very managable in most games (BF1 and Destiny 2 were standouts). I still have it and its by far the best monitor I've owned however that nice Dell OLED Ultrawide is calling...
Great review! One of the most honest review I found on KZhead!
You can still play games in 16:9 if the HUD is awful at 21:9. For me half of my games are amazing in 21:9, one quarter is rubbish and the rest has pros and cons.
21:9 ideal for Racing, Flight Sim, or games that scale horizontal over vertical. Some FPS game work great with 16:9 but not a lot in my experience. Example: Worked great with RDR2, not a lot of fast paced vertical movements, but increased peripheral helped in the open world. 21:9 with DOOM eternal is terrible, went back to 16:9
You kept saying "envelopment" when I think a more proper term is "immersion". I walked by a curved ultra-wide at a computer store playing Metroid Prime Remastered and within seconds was sucked into the game. It was the Corsair Xeneon Flex 45-inch and I found it on online on sale for $500 off bringing the total down to $1,500. Pretty pricey but worth it for me. The monitor I got actually addresses the issue in the video of it being curved and not usable for programs that require a more flat screen since as the "Flex" in the name suggests, the monitor is flexible and you can bend it. It has retractable handles on the side that you can pull towards yourself to make it curved and push it away to make it flat again.
If it's your first time with a curved monitor is a bit weird at first but you definitely get used to it. The biggest thing I noticed was with square Windows as they would look arched or curver along the top and bottom but when you're gaming they don't usually have a ton of straight lines that a persistent on the screen so it's a lot less noticeable in gaming.
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Once you go ultra-wide, it's hard to go back to a standard monitor. It does take a few days to get use to the curve but once you do, you really don't see it anymore. I have a 32 inch curved monitor and I love how the curve makes the games more immersive to play in.
I went back to 16:9 monitor and I'm overall happier with it. My issue was that pretty much every ultrawide at the price range of 500€ or less is VA panel and the dark level smearing was horrendous. I also didn't like having black bars on youtube videos. I will come back to 21:9 later when curved IPS options won't cost a liver and pair it with my current 1440p 180hz monitor as secondary. I will get to enjoy using 21:9 monitor but I'll have 16:9 backup for 16:9 content or games that are not supported on 21:9 at all.
32 inch 4k monitor is the way to go. The sharpness and vertical height is awesome.
im actually thinking of going from an alienware 34 inch to 27 lg monitor. My Pc cant run games in ultrawide anyway and I always get a headache from comptetitive games
When I switched to UW1440p after years of waiting, it was everything I imagined.... at first. But after a few weeks, the novelty of a new kind of display was gone as I got used to it. And like David, I never want to go back. My old 16:9 1440p monitor is just now a 2nd screen in portrait mode.
I've had a 21:9 for a couple of years and I won't go back - flat panel. I only play World of Warships and MS FS 2020, but the total immersion works for me. Also frikkin' awesome for watching films!
You should try 49 inch minitor. You will see crazy ultra wide.
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I've been gaming on ultrawide before it was popular. I had to use a program called "flawless widescreen" to get games to work. Now they're pretty native. I've used flat panel ones for awhile but I got my first curved one a few months ago and it almost feels like it's smaller even though it's still 34". But now I sit back at my flat one and it looks like it's curved backwards. For gaming it's great. Going back to 16:9 from 21:9 feels like going from 16:9 to 4:3 a decade ago. Also in Age of Empires, sins of a solar empire, and other RTS games, it keeps the HUD in the 16:9 area, and just extends the UI borders to the edge of the monitor. So you get the advantage of having all the extra screen, without having the UI elements away from your field of view.
In September 2021 I took the plunge and purchased a VIOTEK GNV34DBE2 34-Inch curved ultra-wide which I was a bit skeptical at first not knowing the brand but at the price I had to give it a shot and I will never go back to 16:9 It has been an amazing screen. 10/10
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You should really try the big format gaming displays that Nvidia shills, especially the 42 and 48 inch OLEDs. They are a weird side grade from multi monitor setups and ultrawides, but the sheer immersion is unbeatable.
I hope those come in 4K (or more), because everything less is basically a step down in everything but size.
@@HappyBeezerStudios The current lineup of OLEDs are all 4K 120hz, and while the PPI seems low on paper, in the real world it doesn’t feel blurry because you have to sit between 60 and 90 centimeters away from the screen for it to be useable
Do you have a screenshot from Follow Freeman as your wallpaper? True gamer move. That's such a great chapter.👍💪🔥🔥
I play on Ultrawide for 5 years now. I wanted to switch to a 27" 165Hz IPS Panel for competitive gaming. After I tried the 16:9 Display for about a week, I returned to the 100Hz ultrawide. I missed it so much from gaming, productivity, and media consumption aspect. Even doe my Ultrawide panel was quite a bit worse than the 16:9 IPS panel I switched to. So i will not go back to 16:9, even if its a bit better for try-hard gaming but I prefer the immersion and extra real estate you get from 21:9. As a tip in most games you can move the HUD more towards the centre like BF or COD, that it's not that far away from your eyes.
I've lost my ultrawide virginity about 5 years ago to a 38" 1600p LG. After 3 years, I went back to normal 16:9 screens. I now have 3 4K screens, which, at least for me, is definitely the better option for a productive workflow.
I absolutely do not want to go back to 16:9, looks just like Dawid said, awful. Games look a LOT better, and also most movies, because most movies are filmed in 2,35:1 en 2.370 en 2.39:1, or with 4k (4096 × 2160 DCI) (all 4k monitors and TV's are 3840x2160), and yeah that looks also a lot better on a 21:9 screen, and i can put more stuff left and right on my screen, something i could not do with 16:9 screen, and i also do not have room for 2 or more huge 4k screens, 4k on 27" or even 32" screens is just not great, you can almost not see any difference between a 27" or even 32" 4k monitor, and a 34" 3440x1440 monitor, and 42,5 " that comes after 32" for 4k monitors, is just way to big for most people on there PC desk, most people sit around 85cm from there monitor, and yeah 42,5" is just to big.
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Did you know Dawid could handle 34 inches before this Anna?
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In fall 2019, I built my current pc and I started by picking the monitor and then spec'ing the machine to be able to comfortably run that panel. At the time, I could afford the Viotek 3440x1440 monitor. It is a 100hz monitor so not 144 but I have genuinely been happy with it. It was a bit under $300 US at the time. TBF, for the prior 15 or so year, I'd only used a laptop, so coming from that, the improvement was hugely obvious. I think mine is an R1800 curve. For the games I play, this has been an excellent choice. I have also done a good bit of photo editing and that has been OK. But I am not trying to make a living from my cameras, if I were this would not be the monitor I'd have chosen. I got used to the curve very quickly and now really only notice it if I look for it. When this monitor fails, I figure higher refresh rates and better color accuracy will be less expensive than they were when I bought this--they may well be even now but I haven't checked. I could probably live with a flat panel easily enough. IF it is big enough. :) But I will never buy anything less than a 1440p monitor. That I can't go back from.
It takes time to feel comfy with the curve monitor yes. My first one was a dell and it’s still my daily, I LOVE IT. I doubt I’ll ever go back to a standard display again.
First of all, weird to see Cooler Master doing a monitor, secondly, have been forced to using 32" ultrawide at work but personally prefer having two smaller discreet 24-27" monitors for productivity.
I think there’s specifically something about using two or more separate programs at once that makes multiple monitors nice. Trying to put multiple programs on a single large screen gives me flashbacks to the war days of having limited space (one not large monitor) and trying to find some crazy arrangement of all the windows that worked. But for gaming it’s the exact opposite, the little division between the two monitors no matter how small, breaking the field of view is distracting.
You know the monitor is expensive when it comes with all the display cables
I just bought a ultra wide monitor and got it last week. I got a GIGABYTE G34WQC. Over all similar specs minus the quantum dot/ color adjustment but 300 dollars less than yours got on sale for $349 on amazon. I got used to it really fast and love it compared to my last monitor which was a asus 1080p 23 inch. I didn't expect it to be so big and heavy lol it really is massive. I usually just browser the web, play 2d games, osrs/runescape3 and No man's sky. Freesync on it was blinking while browsing the web, also was blinking in some games if I don't hit high fps so i turned it off. I have a vega 56 gpu need to upgrade. Over all great experience compared to a small display.
I have been using the crappy-est 1440p ultrawide for a few years now and I must say that it's probably the best pc upgrade I've ever made. You eventually get used to everything that's horizontal beeing curved and I'm more than happy to forgive the VA-flickering. I'd love to replace it with something better, but everything is either basically identical or triple the price. I doubt that Dell is willing to send you anything, but maybe it's worth a shot to ask for the 34 inch qd-oled screen, which is probably the best pc monitor for gaming.
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21:9 is really good for certain games like racing games or games where the FOV is a crucial need and if you do editing and such then ultrawide is a must have.
Just wanna comment on the MOBA aspect. I’ve been on 21:9 for about 2 years now and by far my most heavily played game is LoL. It was definitely a tricky adjustment to go from 16:9 to 21:9 but after honestly going back to 16:9 is really tough. While the mini map is a bit further out, it’s never too bad by any stretch. And LoL specific, the screen actually shows you more map so you can get a larger view of what’s happening. I’d say the most difficult part is getting used to the unlocked camera and how far you have to swipe your mouse comparatively to the 16:9 but anyone out there who’s unsure of playing League on 21:9, I do it plenty and I personally love it!
I use 21:9 for warzone. It's amazing. Hud and minimal can be adjusted in warzone.
very useful video, thank you! it changes a lot compared to most youtubers
I'm waiting on my first Ultrawide to arrive. I really bought it for widescreen movies rather than gaming so hopefully it will work well for that.
i used one for 5 years. no regrets. now i'm back on 16:9. it was hard to adapt back at first, took me a few weeks, but i'm okay now. it's worth it for the oledness of it. also i could just use a ultrawide resolution in this screen if i wanted. black bars that are actually black don't bother me much, and i could get a larger ultrawide picture out of this 48" lg c1 than i had with my old 34" uw
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I've wanted a 34" Ultrawide for a long time and even more so when I watched this video when it was first out. A few months ago I was in Costco and they had an Acer model on sale for $249 with similar specs to this Cooler Master. So, I jumped on the deal, well after asking my wife. I really like it and am curious what our 3 gamer grandkids are going to say when they visit this weekend.
I used to use a 21:9 x2 for work productivity and only 1 while gaming, it was fantastic. I now have a 32:9 Super ultrawide and I cannot go back. You should try this! Some annoying issues though are things like some games just cannot play at that ratio, local dimming zones aren't great etc, but Damn, when you play No man sky, Skyrim, Forza etc it's incredible!
Thanks for the review Dawid. I always have a good laugh when watching your video's. You rock. Groete vanaf RSA
Recently just got a 34" Asus TUF Ultrawide and upgraded from a 16:9 27". Love the upgrade and could never go back!
I picked up an ACER 38 ultrawide IPS last week off craigslist for $300... kind in love with it... especially for like a giveaway price... it coexists with 2 Dell 27 inch 4K IPS screens and 2 LG Ultra Gear 32 Inch GN650s
I've been using ultrawide monitors for work and mostly play for about 7 years now. First a 29" (equivalent to 27" 16:9 in height) non-curved and now recently a curved 49". After so many years using them i think the brain adapts so i have no problems playing even mobas on them
I've been gaming on an ultrawide for a few years and I love it. I do agree about the mini-map. No matter the game, having to redirect your attention to the mini-map is a good way to get shot. Game makers need to provide the option to get the mini-map out of the corner. I also do photography and the curve doesn't bother me a bit. Unless you're the type that moves your head from side to side (as opposed to turning your neck), the curved monitor provides less perspective distortion than a non-curved.
How the fuck do you move your head from side to side without turning your neck? 😂
@@Mikael-jt1hk It's basic geometry. Side to side doesn't require rotation.
21:9 user for a couple years now. A couple things to add I feel are overlooked: 1-You can cut down the resolution to 16:9 if absolutely necessary for a game, just run black bars on the side. Can be done through software or on some monitors' input menu. It is an extra step and hassle, but it does allow you the option. 2-Media consumption on 21:9 is glorious. Most modern movies are shot in 2.39:1 which is very close to 21:9, and when using apps like Netflix or HBOMax, they will fill out the entire screen for full cinematic picture (no annoying black bars like a 16:9).
3440x1440 screens are even in 2.3888:1 to begin with, so there isn't much left. Another thing is that you can watch 16:9 streams and have a strip on the side for chat.
I have two Gigabyte G32QC curved 32" displays side by side. I've been gaming on them for almost 2 years and have been happy with them. I seem to recall that they took a little getting used to. No Man's Sky was great on them.
You certainly would love it. VESA Curve have big plus, colors should not get impacted, because on flat one, colors from edge will pass through front layer at different angle that one's in front of you, so it will affect colors
Still love my BenQ ultrawide. It was a bit expensive 2 years ago, but it's still worth the imperial credits if you buy the same model. Really good for productivity, excellent for movies and TV, and also great for gaming.
In regards to the HUD issue there are at least Some games where you can change its placement from within the settings, switching it from the 21:9 position back to the 16:9 position if you so please. I'm not sure if all games have such an option, but I do know that it's very much a thing!
Just built a new gaming rig and decided to try the ultrawide. Purchased an inexpensive one in case I didn't like it. Like Dawid said I can't go back. Great for gaming and productive. Thinking about that OLED UW.
I just bought the gigabyte 3440x1440p curved ultra wide monitor and it’s been great so far the only complaints I have is that there’s so color smearing when I scroll too fast or up and down on steam. I paired it with my 3080 the performance toll can be a bit much some times but man do games look insane. This monitor had me finishing cyber punk, assassins Creed origins,days gone, and now sleeping dogs. I got it on sale for $350 and I love it. When ever I feel the fps hit is too much I switch it to 1440p with black bars especially when playing competitive games. I do wish Picture in Picture worked a bit better. I too recently lost my ultra wide/curved virginity
I'm a Forza and racing game gamer, so I'm getting the ultra wide. If I do play other games that don't work with the ultra wide I can just crop into 16:9. Like for valorant, cuz you use the map quite often in that game. I'm also planning on getting a wheel set up. So having the extra wide real estate will add to the immersion.
I regret getting a Curved display, because they are bulkier and heavier and hard to mount on articulated supports. 😞 also the curve don't work if you are not 100% centered. 😕 I have a 35 inchs panel, which has come out of favor I guess, don't see 35s anymore 🤔
My biggest issuse with gaming on an ultrawide is a lot of older games don't have ultrawide support so having something like flawless widescreen is a must. I will never go back though, I love my ultrawide :D