Dan Carlin’s Hardcore History 63 - Supernova in the East 2
2019 ж. 13 Қаң.
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The Asia-Pacific War of 1937-1945 has deep roots. It also involves a Japanese society that's been called one of the most distinctive on Earth. If there were a Japanese version of Captain America, this would be his origin story.
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What cracks me up about Dan is how he delivers exposition in a pleasing, reasonable and sonorous tone; but reads from documents - ANY documents on ANY subject from ANY source - like a boxing ring announcer from the 1930s.
Ya love that. It used to bug me but that's because I was wrong back then😅
Makes me smile every time now, lmao
Boy is that whimsical
@@OleHickory69 I love it. Brings the subject to life.
annoying at work where all of a sudden he starts screaming but im used to it by now hahhaa
Every episode of this show is a chilling reminder that most of us live like kings in a cushy little lives...
"Silk slippers"
True that
*covid-19 slowly creeps into the room* "Surprise!!!! =)"
I like covid much more than I'd like having my village raped and tortured to death.
@@animaetmateria3578 not even a comparison…
In case anyone's wondering, the Japanese in the art says "Give me liberty or give me death" (large text on right and left) and "Supernova in the East" (small text in bottom right)
Thank you! Interesting...
That is cool, thank you
Actually it says "Freedom please. Otherwise death". Slightly lol.
Brilliant. Liberty or death.
He received death.
Fantastic episode. God, I'm sorry but there is nothing - NOTHING - more badass than the Pacific Fleet in ruins, Japan celebrating an unprecedented victory, the admirals slapping themselves on the back... and Yamamoto silently standing in dread knowing that they didn't get the Carriers and that somewhere out there the Enterprise, Lexington, & Saratoga were fully armed, fueled, and pissed as all hell.
This scene paints so many intense emotions from the entire spectrum of feels. Dan did a brilliant job giving us the scope from both sides of the story, and Yamamoto done fucked up something fierce.
@@franktothemax It was a long shot to begin with though, and they had pretty bad luck that the carriers just happened to leave.
And they were on their own for over a year during the fleet build up. The best part of the story is the nearly entire year where it was simply "Enterprise vs Japan."
What would have happened if the carriers were there? Could the US recover?
@@Dave-mk9bw they built another 27 carriers by wars end so would have been fine. Port Moresby would have fallen, and therefore Australia threatened, but even Japan knew they couldn't invade Australia with their limited manpower and supplies
Damn, that last quote from Churchill was incredible.
Check out the others he made against us, the working people of his own country and it will surely temper any ideas on him, he was simply the right man at the time..
@@DaveSCameron He did have a way with speaking and words though, just really good at speeches. Some people just have that gift, and to have it and be in such a position as he, AND during the height of radio... Doesn't have to mean he was a good person tho.
@@rickwrites2612 Cheers for the reply and I agree 👍
I got the hardcore history compilation (the first 50 episodes) as a holiday present from my wife, best gift ever!
Nice!! I torrented the first 40 or 50 episodes a while back when i was unemployed. i actually felt guilty about it so i donated the money through pay pal when i got back to work lol.
thegreatbakchod what a awesome wife man ! Give her a nice smack on the ass for me, for being so great !
*Clicks on the video faster than the 1941 offensives*
You must be insane, and why are your messages in code?
if Churchill could so clearly, and instantly recognize that Pearl Harbor meant "the war was decided" and that it guaranteed America siding with them, against the Japanese, why did the Japanese think - even for a moment - that small "victory" or no, Pearl Harbor would do anything other than make things much worse for them? Especially if it was considered acceptable to judge Japan as 1/20th the military potential of America?
@@stormbreak13 they were foolish enough to think they could scare us away from entering the war by destroying the majority of our Pacific naval capability. Shortsighted Japanese underestimated the American fighting spirit!
That insane ending from Dan Carlin after reading Churchill's speech. End Quote. *Ominous boom*
@@nicholascecil6733 unfortunately for them, our aircraft carriers weren't at dock during the attack
"We could have the uigher version of the final solution happen over the next year and have the world sit around like what do we do" Actually prophetic.
Indeed
We could have finally started a conversation during the olympics if Russia didn't try to invade Ukraine and all our media being simps for China
@@glorioustigereye The Olympics were utterly bizarre. Everyone attending China acting like nothing was happening
organ harvesting…..
Even worse, people KNOW and don't care. Literally just don't care.
I already heard this on my phone but man this was a good episode to listen to.
Glad to see people of intellectual mindedness present at my purists of interest
I remember reddit was nothing but a shadow of what 4chan once was lol seems the tables have turned now
Whooooo. New Hardcore History. Your the man Dan Carlin. Thank you for your hard work on these. You basically write an audiobook every 6 months. That is amazing
I didn't like this one so much. Didn't learn anything I didn't already know
This was so good I'm going back to listen to Ghosts of the Ostfront series to see what is happening on the Eastern Front while we wait on Supernova 3.
Interestingly enough, one of the first lessons you’re taught in the Australian army is what happened during the My Lai massacre, the objective of the lesson is to teach soldiers about the accountability that they bear to disobey orders if you consider them wrong/unethical
For those interested in the Pearl Harbor attack, a guy with the channel name Montemayor has an excellent video giving a detailed and informative play by play of the attack. Best account of Pearl Harbor that I have seen and a good companion piece to Dan Carlin's.
Thank you "Elmarby". You are CORRECT! Montemayor is awesome and he goes very well with Dan Carlin!!!!
Elmarby His Midway video is really good as well
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Indeed, excellent channel
Check out World War Two channels 10 episode compilation (I believe it's 10?) Pearl Harbor Hour by Hour, with digital recreations from I believe War Thunder of how the attack took place, it covers the attack, on both sides, the news, it's effect on the public, everything .. Probably the most in depth look at Pearl Harbor I've ever seen, and they've got their D Day episode coming up next year, that covers the 24 hours around the ENTIRE WORLD has to how the D Day invasion was having effects. Hosted by a guy named Indy Neidell, dudes a savant. Every Saturday morning they post a video, covering the war week by week, in real time, as it happened 75 years ago. It's truly amazing.
Dude you rock! Keep these coming man! I love the way you explain history. If only schools had history teachers like you... on second thought.. if only schools still taught history.
What do they need Dan for? They can make up history on their own, just fine.
@@Trollificusv2 you were here 5 hours ago? Damn weird timing
Mr. Carlin, Your podcastst are some if dopest decibel dope ive ever smoke. They are drugs for your ears. Im addicted to your audio coke. More is good. Signed, Everyone
Amen.
'decibel dope' lol
😸 meow?! .... prrrrr😼
I like turtles
Highest replay-value series on the planet.
Wow Churchill at the end gave me goosebumps
Tears in my eyes
Decembuh 7th, nineteen fauty one, a date which will live. in infamy.
Steve Lane if we dig deep in our history and our doctrine, and remember we are not descended from fearful men.
@@henkjanwolvega People have got to know whether or not their president is a crook. Well, I'm not a crook.
Last Word I take pride in the words "Ich bin ein Berliner!"
@@wutang9641 mr gorbetrov tear down that wall!!
:-D :-)
happy to see an episode, sad to know another is not coming for like 6 months
Yeah, the last 90mins of the episode really flew by and then this sound hit me 3:59:50 ... filled me with dread.
Dude that's what makes them awesome, there work the the wait
Here we sit... waiting... wanting....
So you guys think theres a part 3?
@@JG-id5vi yes, absolutely.
Just found out today that Dan Carlin’s Hardcore history may have been BANNED FROM iPhones that are used by Chinese users. My wife who is Chinese can no longer access this podcast on her iPhone but I can. We don’t even live in China. If you have Chinese friends, be sure they do not use QQ email for Apple App Store just Incase
Sometimes I think I can't be more disgusted by the CCP but they always manage to find a way
#fuckchina
Kind of ironic, considering he's critical of the IJA (realistic) about Nanking on this podcast, and almost universally sympathetic about China. Entirely different government though. But no doubt multiple points here depart from CCP orthodoxy, and any fact-loaded Western source is sure to be unpopular with those fuckwits.
@@LAK_770 They would dislike people hearing how completely dominated they were by japan maybe?
Communists
When I was stationed in Pearl Harbor fifteen years ago, I noticed that the majority of the tourists who came to visit the Arizona Memorial were Japanese. It always puzzled me, until I learned how little information about Japan's actions in World War 2 is available even now to the general Japanese public. Now, it's my thought that they know very and painfully well how it ended - they come to Pearl Harbor and walk the Memorial, watch the oil floating on the serene harbor waters above the rusted-out hull and read the names on the marble wall of the men whose bodies are just a few feet below them... because they are trying to understand how it began. Without that, it's hard to fully make sense of it all. Pearl Harbor was a national tragedy for the United States, but WWII in its entirety was a national tragedy for Japan, from its bloody beginning to its horrifying end. I thought about that one evening, a December 5th evening at sunset on the Memorial when I had volunteered to help the Park Service get the place ready for the December 7th observations, the Missouri a few yards away standing guard over her fallen sister ship and the cool breeze rustling the water against the Memorial and the wreck beneath just enough to sound like the indistinct whispers of ghosts, and I wondered... did all that really have to happen? The deaths of the men below, who are about half of the recognized death tally from that day, and the long bloody trail of foxholes and shipwrecks from Bataan to Iwo Jima, the deaths of two cities in nuclear flame, the generation of Japanese men lost and American men twisted by hatred... could it have been avoided? And that is they key question to all of this, if one chooses not to take the declensionist view of "inevitability" and accept human choice, however self-limited and limiting, as an active factor. Where were the inflection points that could have changed this? What might have happened instead if the tragedy of Pearl Harbor had been averted? And, in the way that history has of eventually singing the same refrain in a higher octave, would we recognize similar inflection points if and when they come again?
The fact that your comment hasn't been recognised, by the supposed history lovers of KZhead, should provide a solemn answer to your question.
I don't think we will see them. Refer to Ukraine. How do you drop a nuclear bomb on a population? You have to work up to it. 🤦😳
Holy shit, that Churchill quote at the end...
Dan Carlin is a national treasure. I can’t properly express just how excited I get when I see that you’ve posted a new segment, and this second part was glorious to listen to. Can’t wait for the third!
Mind blown within 10 minutes of a 4 hour podcast, ah yes, this is the Dan Carlin I know and love.
*Thank you Mr. Carlin!!* Looking forward to listening to this podcast in my new job as a trucker, please keep 'em coming!
This is probably not the best time to get into trucking.
Yeah, I just got off the road myself. I'd say, save for a rainy day. Whatever you think you'd need if your job ever went * poof *, double it. Also, Dan's a stellar road companion. Check out the back-catalogue at DanCarlin.com if you haven't already. 👍
Shanghai resident, super interesting, know all the places you are talking about
I am jealous of the perspective you have by being there but hate this was an incident having happened. Stay Zen
@@rachelspanties5400 Literally every place in the world has cool history in some way, whatever place you live in too, he has a better image of this story, you on another one, I don't think there's need for jealousy.
"As for the japanese? They would be ground to powder" wow, what an ending.
Was hyped to listen to this and then realized I remembered NOTHING from last episode...guess I have to listen to part 1 again first
There are worse fates in life.
Dude me too 😭
Just did! I has forgotten so much about the early modern history of Japan. The First Sino-Japanese War and the Russo-Japanese War are particularly crystallized in my mind now.
Great timing, got a 3.5 hr journey ahead of me tomorrow!
Have fun being traumatized
Did you sit in the car and finish listening for 30 minutes after arrival?
@@xczechr Yeah did you?
@@xczechr Yeah did you?
What a Dan Carlin way to start the episode about Japan, a little bit of Babylonian sacking for context "I'd *like* to make a 3 hour episode..." -Dan Carlin on a 4 hour video
One of these days he's going to start a show without bringing up Babylon or the Mongols. One of these days...
@@SivakAurak And then he promptly brings up the WW1 trench wars and the WW2 Russian front.
Yeah.. History STARTS The Day before the day of which you are Briefing.
This dude is such a treasure! All the love from Finland!
Fantastic again Mr. Carlin, I really could visualise the stampede in Shanghai and was incredibly touched for the Chinese lose of life. It really does help ones understanding of the way there society is organised today, in regard to its strict drug laws and military parades. Thank you
How can one man talking for 4 hours be so engaging!? Obviously he's got some great source materials but his delivery just sets him apart from the rest.
The best in depth honest analysis that can be found, thank you Dan
3:58:11 is quite possibly the single best excerpt of this entire series.
What a fucking quote. He could really string some words together that old codger....
Thank you Dan! I've been waiting for this and I'm just beginning a 12 hour shift. Perfect timing 👌
what are you gonna do about the other 8 hours?
@Right-Wing Listen to it two more times!
16 minutes in. Ive never heard of the My Lai massacre before, i think. Thank you for helping me be more aware.
Love Dan. His take on history is wonderful. His voice and delivery is perfection.
I'm so excited, my commute is awesome now!! Thanks Dan.
Thank you! You're doing amazing work!
Brilliant episode! I watched the first one on a windsurfing road trip through Europe last summer along with many others of yours, and it was such an experience to talk about these topics with good company while witnessing the changing landscapes from dawn till dusk.
What a great history of Japan's involvement leading up to and through WW2. Good to get the back story in how, why, when etc. Wow, must listen to part 1!
Where exactly do I find part one? 🤔
That beginning when he perfectly summarizes what’s happening in China with their Muslim minorities. He even name drops China, and boy was he right.
China's been doing this exact thing for millenias, even before the communists
Funny how you are concerned about muslim populations in China but like most Americans you don't give 2 shits about the Christians and Jews in North Africa and Middle East. Christianity and Judaism are Middle Eastern religions yet until 1948 there was not a Jewish country in Middle East and to this day there aren't any Christian majority countries. What about those 2 groups that have suffered so much at the hands of the muslims? What about the Indians that were slaughtered by tens of millions by the muslims?
Rudens Sinjari I don’t like any form of human suffering, I don’t like that Jewish and Christian religious minorities have been persecuted in the Middle East, and I don’t like how millions of Indians have died to Islam either. I’m not defending Islam or any other religion, I just don’t like minorities being persecuted and people killed over religion, or human suffering in general. The difference is that what you’ve mentioned are past events, that suffering cannot be undone, unless you have time travel. But the suffering in China is happening now, something can be done about it. It would be very hard to get China to change their ways, but it’s not as impossible as changing the past.
@@rudenssinjari73 yeah yeah. Same with feminists who ignore womans rights in the middle east or people who seem to ignore slavery today in libya. Kind of sick of the preachingbfrom people who dont do anything about it themselves.
Well, trouble always seem to arise wherever individuals following that faith congregate in larger numbers.
I really enjoy Hardcore History. Keep them coming Dan!
This is so impressive. I am not someone who suffers audiobooks easily, and when I do read nonfiction, it tends more towards the natural or social sciences. If you had told me I'd listen, enrapt, to 6 episodes of 3 hrs each, specifically about the Pacific theater in WWII, I would never believe I'd have the attention span or continuing interest. Very commendable acievement.
I love how Dan reads quotes
Woohoo! Ive listened to Blueprint twice since Armistice Day and finished Kings of Kings today. I love your content Dan, keep up the good work!
Man I've been so excited waiting for part two. Thanks Dan!
All-in-all another superb Dan Carlin Hardcore History production. Agree or disagree with any detail, I'm sending this guy a few Yen. His products are wonderful literature and very passable popular history with credible scholarship and editorial honesty. Bravo Mr. Carlin. Another outstanding program!
Thank you Dan! Never stop doing these programs, they are immeasurably valuable and truly enriching. I can't wait for part 3, whether it takes six months or ten years.
Completely unplanned but I'm grateful to have finished this episode today, just two days prior to the date which will live in infamy. What a tremendous body of work!
Listening to the beginning bit of this podcast (minute 8ish) after the Russian invasion and you were completely right with the whole "ummm I don't know maybe sanctions or something" being the only response for the most part
You have by far the single best history show extant. Keep on doing what you do Dan.
Dan, this is one of the best episodes you've put out! Wow. The way you wrapped the ending. It had me so pumped up I almost had tears in my eyes! Keep it up my man.
I haven't listened to the episode yet, I'm waiting for that perfect time. Dan Carlin time is Christmas time
Not gonna lie, as Dan was describing the destruction of Pearl Harbor with such conviction, I got legit goosebumps. Absolutely fantastic episode, and chilling reminder of something that happened not so long ago in the near distant past.
Dan Carlin is an absolute legend. Thank you so much for your epic and gripping tales. You are a fantastic orator and historian. I love your work and you deserve all the praise in the world. Your videos are a work of art! I've listened to every video on KZhead. Some of them 2 or 3 times. I bought Wrath of the Khans and plan of getting every video that you have to purchase that you have produced. You are a pro and an absolute legend. Thank you for the work you do!!
Yesssss! ....Thankyou for uploading it here too, Dan man.
Listened to the podcast now for the KZhead!
Hell yeah I'm pumped Dan!
Love you Dan, thanks again. You are the best out there. Giving history an uncanny and satisfying pulse.
WOW!! Part one was ENTHRALLING!!! You have a gift my friend. I have high expectations for this episode!
excellent stuff, Dan. As always. Cheers from Romania!
Can we get one on the Arab and the Ottoman Empire?
@DebbyAbqNM not the same at all
@DebbyAbqNM it was definitely a masterpiece that's for sure
kings of kings is about persian/greek wars. not arab but a bit closer
I was just thinking this today
Which 'Arabs'? The Umayyads? The Abbasids? The Fatimids? The Mughals? I think Islamic Spain and the Cordoba Caliphate might be a candidate for 'Fall of Civilizations' though.... The Islamic conquest of the Levant, Asia Minor, West Asia, and all of northern Africa and as far as the border regions of France, would make an awesome Dan Carlin podcast.
I've been waiting along time for this but I'm certain it will be worth it. Thank you Carlin for the work you do
It's keep on so absolutly intens like you can read a history book, but Dan you take history on a total new level and please don 't stop
YES! FINALLY! Thank you Dan Carlin!
Episode 3 cannot come soon enough!
Great Series!! Looking forward to part III.
Great series as always. Thank you sir for all your work.
Anyone know where the Nazis documents on US industrial capacity can be viewed? I understand the US produced HALF the war materials, but I'd love to compare estimates with results.
Half the materials from both sides combined no less. No idea where those documents can be found though.
If you’re in the US maybe the library of Congress otherwise it’s in Europe stashed in a museum.
8:40 That aged well.
I'm so glad this is here! Been waiting, and I am well pleased!
Omg finally!! Your podcasts are amazing. I've been waiting for this for ages. Keep up the good work
I clicked faster than *witty history reference about speed*
_(Witty_ _reply)_
Lulz
I clicked faster than your mom
Im cooking pork chops
Faster than Bill Clinton kicking Monica out of the Oval Office once he 'finished'?
I wish these podcast where louder.
CLINT WHITNEY *were
You gotta turn it up silly pants
Laughs in volume button.
Well this will certainly be something to listen to over the week as time allows. I have been waiting quite patiently for it. Thank you Dan, I am sure this will be fantastic.
Fantastic! I really want part 3.
Listened to part 1 to the point of memorization.
I really liked how he went in-depth about Japan's history and culture development to put WW2 into context.
gosh darn American hero, Dan Carlin
cqduck667 Fuck
Amazing podcast. Podcast as a word fails to describe what this was. If you could revisit the pacific theater after war broke out between the US and Japan in a part 3 of this serie, that would be amazing. I learned quite a lot of things about the European theater, but so little about the Pacific side of WW2, that would be beyond great.
Just found you and omg where have you been my whole life! This stuffs amazing! Keep it up!
Anyone else want Dan to do Vietnam from french indochina to their defeat of the khmer rouge?
You know, I'm gonna stay up to 3 am to listen to this.
Thank you Dan. Your work never fails to impress me.
It's one of the most intens history lecture I ever listen to, real heavy, but very learning, thank you!!!!
Dan never whitewashes brutality, but neither does he deny the humanity of the offenders either. And that's a tough thing to do.
My father spent his childhood in Tiensin (now Tianjin) in the 1930s and was there when the Japanese occupied the city. He has many stories, probably the best of which was on the day after the Pearl Harbour attack. To make a long story short, two Japanese soldiers burst into my grandparents' house with machine guns but didn't shoot anyone. They just boasted about the Pearl Harbour attack, got drunk from my grandfather's liquor cabinet, stole a few things (including a set of brass finger bowls, my father remembers) and left. My grandparents reported them to the officers in charge and some time later, there came a knock at the door. It was.a Japanese officer who returned all the stolen stuff and invited my grandparents to come and watch the two soldiers being flogged. We have other stories, worse than that. My father eventually made it to Canada, and for his whole life has never bought a Japanese car or TV or stereo or anything else.
Your father was extremely lucky
@@Anomaly-uz9pr Very.
Been anticipating this for so long. Thank you Dan. Such a great episode
Hell ya Dan you always blow me away, your podcast drops are like little Christmas gifts, .... Thanks man.
There hasn't been a hard core history scince LAST YEAR
Thanks Dan for covering this often under taught subject matter. The few month long 1937 Imperial Japanese invasion of the then capital city Nanjing, China is to date still the largest documented GOLD ROBBERY in history (in that operation alone the Japanese took 6,600 tonnes or like 80% of the Official Gold Reserves the USA claims to have today). The Japanese did not have a central bank fiat currency financing mechanism like the German Nazi party did (Swiss mainly). Check out the 'Gold Warriors' book to see more sordid details. Was there a tacit agreement post 2 atomic bombs to not tell nor teach this Imperial Japanese story to westerners... save some face for this Japanese disgrace perhaps?
Not Robbery..... Spoils of war......
@@kensenkensen7297 "Heavily armed robbery" then.
The first 3 months of US occupation of Okinawa, 10 000 women were raped. Go to the entire japan and what american soldiers did there and number of course grow incredibly. War creates opportunities for the psychopaths among us on both sides. This is why we must always be against war and do anything in order to avoid them.
@@danielgyllenbreider *anything?*
Thank you. You are amazing! The best podcast!
Thank you Dan, I very much appreciate your creativity
Oh man I'm so happy
Arrrggghhh. To late at night. Well 30 minutes....
Exactly how I feel, I was going to go to bed... maybe not.
3.5 hours later......ooooh only 30 min left
Carlin is the best of his breed, there is no question. Have enjoyed every single episode.
Elevating the podcast to an art form. Keep up the good work! Can't for episode 3.
Praise carlin
I love when dan reads ancient b.c. emperors propaganda in the voice dan feels an thinks they sound aloud.
Keep up the hard work dan! Bought all your podcasts well worth it!
This just made my whole next 6 months. How funny that I had just relistened to Ep. 1 a week ago, all the while anticipating when the next release would be. How epic that it would be a week later. Thanks Dan. Thanks Ben.