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BEA System's M2 Bradley Infantry Fighting Vehicle has a lot of detractors that like to knock on the vehicle and claim it’s a complete piece of garbage. If you look closely a lot of that criticism is completely fabricated facts that come from a 1998 Hollywood movie called the “Pentagon Wars” which was hilarious but largely false.
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The first version of the Bradley came out in 1981 in direct response to the soviet creation of the BMP. They thought about copying the soviet idea but instead chose to create a new doctrine. They imagined a vehicle that could fight alongside the M1 Abrahams. It would help locate enemy targets and then it would drop ramp, infantry would run out and help pin the enemy in that location. The highly maneuverable fast Bradley is an integral part of heavy armored brigades because without them the M1 Abrahams would have less situational awareness and be far more vulnerable to being flanked.
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The American forces had the next generation Bradley's with thermal sights and a better communications network. This allowed them to coordinate between each other and focus fire on one enemy vehicle at a time.
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2 Vehicles 1st the M2 Bradley 2nd Toyota Pickup with an MG mounted at the bed. Bradley For supporting infantry at heavy fighting MG Trucks for reconnaissance and mobility. And MG Trucks also equipped with Anti tank anti air weapons. Mostly MG trucks cause its cheap M2 For critical situation
Didn't we get a up-gunned Stryker semi recently, like 3 years ago?
When the Bradley gets 20 kills it actually becomes a Chadley, that's true don't look it up.
Source: trust me bro.
@@ps1hagrid716 Source: I made it up.
@@stinkysmelly6695 wha.... you told me it was true :(
@@ChickentNug its still true, i just made it up
You cannot order me
The Pentagon Wars is a great satire about bureaucracy and the Bradly IFV just happened to be its scapegoat. I'm a big fan of both
this is a great way of putting it. The movie perfectly captures how backwards military bureaucracy can be
What's even better is that the book that pentagon wars is based on is a massively self serving book and leaves out the mountain of stupid ideas he and his supporters had. My favorite one is the idea to make the A-10 even more of a meme is to make it only a flying gun. No Radar no laser guided weapons just a engine a 30MM gun and a cockpit.
@@jasonirwin4631 pictured here: Caboose rare insights. Always trustworthy.
@@Taskandpurpose sadly the movie is full of bs he wasn't a good guy his designs were bad and he belonged to a group of what they called reformers. They didn't want men with high tech equipment thrown at problems they wanted men with as low tech equipment as possible to be thrown at the enemy. I know it's out of the range but look at spookston channel it has a great video on why pentagon wars was heavily inaccurate.
It is funny as a movie and maybe bureaucracy satire. But it does a disservice to all the engineers working on the Bradley You might want to watch: kzhead.info/sun/mtGuhr2OiXd9mn0/bejne.html or: kzhead.info/sun/ZcuId6yckXajeKM/bejne.html (not PG rated)
Named my second son Bradley after this vehicle. He turned out to be 50 lbs at 3 years old, made of solid muscle, and is the living embodyment of destruction and chaos. Love the Bradley.
Is this a joke?
@@DrSchredder nope. Bradley is a good name. Why would it be a joke?
That's what I'm Takin about! You have already made a solid positive effect on your sons future. Scouts Out!
@@brandonandreski1709 how much can he bench
@@swegmastur614 lol I have no clue but he can deadlift his ten year old sister lol
The Bradley vs. BMP just became a lot more relevant
BMP doesn't stand a chance. Russian mainly use BMP1. And they all have thin armor. No match for 25mm.
@@RandomGuy9 From what I heard. A Bradly can destroy even T72 tanks. They did so in Iraq. That's pretty nuts.
@@robertw1800 I heard, that i massacred T72s in Iraq with their TOW missiles. And dont forget, that the bulk of Russian Armor is made up of T72 tanks. So, good news for Ukraine.
@@robertw1800 From the sides or rear or with a TOW, sure. But it would be the foolhardy Bradley commander who engaged a T-72 with the 25-mm from the front quarter.
I guess we have our answer..
The FBI has just confirmed that all of Cappy's google search history is just posts about a store that sells a Bradley for civilians
Fully equipped for after noon rush hour road rage I presume
@@vonvomit5666 Gotta be ready for the purge.
hell, I'd want one to drive to and from work...the fuel bill would be murder though...
@@wilemelliott it'd be worth it!!!
Given the FBI's track record, if they tell you that the sun rose in the east this morning your should seek confirmation from a more reliable source. Their stupidity and incompetence are matched only by their dishonesty.
The Bradley was awesome in the first gulf war. I was a gunner and got my M2A2 brand new. HE shredded infantry, AP rounds melted several MT-LBs and my TOWs got three tanks. We even pulled an Iraqi uniform out of the tracks. It was my home for 9 miserable months but it exceeded all of our expectations and got me and my crew home. A CO 7/6 INF. 1st Armored Division.
glad to have a Gulf War veteran here! thanks for your insight good sir
@@Taskandpurpose There was a flaw that turned out to be incredibly useful. If you turned on your thermal sight and turned your brightness and contrast all the way up, then switched to your day sight, your thermal would bleed through to your day site (4x and 7x), and you could tell if a vehicle's engine was running at over 1000m. This let you quickly identify active targets and even helped locate dug-in troops in holes and in bunkers, with only your day sight. If they didn't come out immediatley, the Platoon Sgt. tossed in a grenade. Thermal sights and gun stabilization were revolutionary at the time. The Iraqi's never had a chance. Big shout out to the Air Force for softening them up so well. They saved a lot of lives....and took a lot too.
@@sgt.slaughter8170 that's one of the most interesting little factors I've ever heard. On the subject of the air force: just be glad you were in a Bradley not a Warrior If you know what I mean...
@@sgt.slaughter8170 thanks for sharing! super cool
@@sgt.slaughter8170 That’s pretty interesting, can’t help but be reminded of a game exploit that’s going to be patched out in the next update lmao
Am here just to educate myself on these a bit more and say thanks to all our US friends )
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All of the BMPs you had Labeled as BMP-3 were BMP-2s. And a lot of the vehicles you had when you were talking about BMPs were MT-LBs, which are are roughly equivalent in capability to an M113, armed with a machine gun and little else. BMP-2 rocks the 30mm main gun, usually an ATGM mounted on the roof that the crew has to expose themselves to fire (I think) and a lack of thermal sights on most versions. BMP-3 is a much chunkier vehicle, has a 100mm main gun that fires high explosive rounds and ATGMs, a coaxial 30mm, and the more modern ones have thermal sights, though I think it is just for the gunner. Bradley is still better though.
I botched that part, its hard for me to source BMP footage I have the rights to. next time I'll work harder to secure some more solid BMP footage , great catch and thanks for the feedback- wish I had just labeled the footage "BMP"
@@Taskandpurpose SO UNDERSTANDABLE NOW FROM OTHER VIDEOS LABELING VEHICLES WRONG
The war in Ukraine has proven all BMPs are to lightly armored to operate independently
bmp-2's atgms can be fired from the fighting compartment but must be reloaded while exposed. the bmp-1 could be fired and reloaded from the firing compartment, but that missile (sagger) was mostly useless.
the bmp 2 doesnt need its commander to expose himself thats only on the bmp 1 if it has the P modification since it got a new atgm launcher on the top
its also unfair that in COD its like : "Stick to the Bradley" 3 sec later: Bradley gets killed by RPG
Same thing with any helicopter in cod one min SOLDER WE'ER ABOUT TO LAND the next RPG
@@inmemoryofjstark7893 Just any vehicle in CoD just...explodes for no reason, just like that.
@@fasterthandragons7908 idk if it’s better or worse than battlefield. In bf you can hit a jeep with a full burst of 25 MM and they’re fine
Bradleys are made from cheap toilet paper in cod
@@davemarshall9322 please, I was just playing bf4 yesterday and I shot an MRAP with a T-90 and it only did 53 damage
5:40 goddamnit Cappy, that's a BMP-2 and you know it! now give me 200!
its impossible to find BMP3 footage that I have the rights to use without being copyright striked haha I used my imagination !
He gets almost everything about the BMP wrong in this video.
@@jarink1 Please explain.
@@Glove513 For one thing he kept showing vid of MT-LBs and calling them BMPs.
@@jepkratz Well you just lack imagination. I mean, why can’t a pink unicorn become a talking dragon? That doesn’t eat it’s human friends, no less? An MT-LB is a fine stand in for a BMP-3. It’s tracked and armored and...well...tracked. By the way, my pronoun is MT-LB.
Got a buddy who been blown up twice in a Bradley. Got hit by a recoiless rifle round and an ied. He's still here so I'd say it's a pretty good machine.
I was a crewman on an M2A1 and M2A2 for 6 years. All 3 positions. Driver, gunner, vehicle commander. Was also a crewman on M113s and M577s for a couple years. Was with the first unit in Europe to get Bradleys in 1988. If you know how to use it, and maintain it properly, the Bradley is a menace. The early versions struggled to keep up with the Abrams, but later versions got better.
The negative rep the Bradley got from Pentagon Wars is probably similar to the negative rep of the F-35. Not really based on performance but based on cost/time overruns and the fact it isn't a flawless unicorn capable of creating world peace in a week.
The "heroes" in that movie is a complete fucking lunatic and shithead in real life
"Alright what if we made an A-10 but it's just a gun on a flying metal tub that doesn't have *any* targeting systems?"
I have actually read about the real aspects of Pentagon Wars and it nailed almost everything and Bradley isnt finished when the movie was over, rather more funds were released to correct all the flaws that were found.
Youre spot on, I reckon
@@hp2084 what the fuck are you talking about? The very basis of the movie is predicated on a lie: that the Bradley was a replacement of the m113 as a new generation APC; In reality it was and IFV from the beginning.
SPOOKSTON! Crazy to see you mention him.
Ayyy spookston is one of my favorite youtubers
Spookston's iconic video music gives me the jibbies every time
@@leflavius_nl5370 iconic? He plays halo music almost every video lol
@@brettblades9320 yeah but its still iconic. I dont watch many other channels so i dont hear halo music all around
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Love these. I was a 19 kilo (m1 Abrams tank crewman), and loved working with them. Doing large miles gear engagements in the Korean woods was amazing. Nothing like massive heavy armor and various light armor support vehicle movements working all together.
Where the Korean women ez?
As a former Canadian TOW gunner from a mech unit, I have always been jealous of the bradley's TOW capability and tracks. I used to drive a M113 TUA, so learned the advantages tracks gave, even in an older decrepid vehicle, as well as was a TOW gunner in both the M113 and LAV III versions, besides my rifle company time in the back of a LAV. Tracks and TOW, that is my unicorn right there. One of the few pieces of US army kit I actually envied.
Don't think changing that title hides how you're simping over the Bradley. I saw it, I SAW IT!
Nothing to see here nothing to see here! no simping going on !
@@Taskandpurpose You changed it while I was in the comments!? That's inconceivable!
that cheeky little bastard
Now waiting for m2 bradley onlyfans
what was the title?
I was a Bradley mechanic during Desert Storm. I fixed them and they protected my ass. In 1987 the recruiter showed me a video of the Bradley since I was interested in being a mechanic. I was hooked after that. So I spent the next nine years following them, eating dirt from the back of the column, in the M88. Fun times.
Man U guys were always working weekends at the motor pool
Teamwork makes the dream work.
best mos in the army lmao
The real outstanding fact that is that the Bradley managed to not fight any near peer foes for most of its career and gained a reputation of being the "best IFV ever"... until this week.
Turns out that fighting a peer adversary like Russia is a little more challenging than illiterate goat herders wearing sandals.
Lol Bradley is good only against farmers and poor civilians
@@AyOuB.God-soldiercope
@@diollinebranderson6553I mean gulf war. But still iraq was weak a large ground force but all conscripts weak airforce and bad air defenses
@@AyOuB.God-soldier this is prime cope lmfao. even i respect vehicles like the BTR or Bradley
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Maybe Pentagon Wars was bulls%$t but Kelsey brought it home with the flawless documentary Down Periscope.
That was a stupid movie. An SSN is far faster submerged than on the surface. No competent sub commander is going to surface to chase a WW2 diesel sub.
Heck yeah lol. Funny flick.
During my first deployment to Iraq in 2005-2006 I was a dismount, driver, and gunner of a Bradley. Unfortunately, of those that were damaged or destroyed I remember a few. One hit an IED and burned killing all 5 aboard. Even now that is something I will never forget.
Sucker , brainwashed by USA for no WMD
Unfortunately it took until 08' for them to retrofit them with kevlar plates for the ammo storage under the troop area. I remember in 05 going to a scrap yard to look for parts for a Bradley, because we just arrived and didn't have a deadline part we needed, on Mosul I think and there was a Bradley there that was literally a puddle with some road wheels, a burned out Abrams, and a medic M113 that hit an IED directly underneath it and killed all 5 Medics on board. Still have the pictures and I get sad every time I come across them.
Thank you both of you for your service.
Went to an air show once and they had a Bradly on display. There was a lieutenant and maybe another soldier explaining the capabilities of the vehicle. When they took time to eat lunch they left the vehicle unattended. About a dozen little kids swarmed on, over, under, and inside the vehicle. When the lieutenant got back she freaked out!! All I could hear her yelling was "get off the Bradley, get off the Bradley"!!!!!!
Good thing they didn't leave the keys in it! LOL
@@jedironin380 I agree. This story would be so much better if the kids drove the Bradley over to where the lieutenant was eating lunch and made him surrender. :-)
@@angeluscorpius James Garner in TANK, "I do believe I've got you covered." 😆
@@jedironin380 The Cadillac control used in the M4 in Tank is from an M60A3 I believe
@@angeluscorpius I honestly wonder how hard one of these vehicles is to drive, Is it like a tractor trailer where even if you have driven car with a manual you would be lucky to get it to go forward or is it an automatic. put it in drive and figure out where the throttle and brake are.
Desert Storm 11M here....have always loved the Brad. Did well in the desert and most of our losses were to Apaches and Abrams. 😑
Fun fact: the German panthers weight was also 45 tons which was also supposed to be the tigers original weight but due to the addition of armor the tigers weight was increased
Bradley's weight increased from the addition of the so called reactive armor.
And the engine on both tanks said hell no! 🤣
Why did Tigers/Panthers have gasoline engines and not diesels like T-34s, for example?
@@trukomf1nn162 because it was unavailable, also t34 sucks
With combat experience on th Bradley and over 12 years training soldiers on Bradleys, I got a call BS on “seeing through thick sandstorms” with thermals. It doesn’t work that way, except in Hollywood.
THERMAL, THERMALS , I was doing PMCS on this bitch before it had Thermals. Or GPS. Try navigating through a waddle at NTC at Night without GPS, Thermal scope. Those were the days but we were so damn glad to get rid of the M113 we didn’t give a shit. When you get old like me , you can remember really old stuff.
Well, yes. Sand is an actual, physical obstacle, nothing like darkness or smoke.
@@markcollins2666 Smoke is physical too, but just much finer.
Yeah, I was wondering about that. I think they took the fact that that you could possibly detect past some obstacles with thermals (which is true, though moreso an exception and not a rule in most cases) but got carried away and took a bit of license.
As the son of a father who worked on the bradley fighting vehicle for over a decade of his life. He was very proud of the work he did on the vehicle. I did show my father the movie and we almost came to blows over watching it. I have vivid memories(I was 15 at the time) of being chased up the stairs after he thought we were showing him the movie as a joke on him. Ruined family movie night forever. Safe to say as an older person now (47) I feel proud of the work he did and I know it helped save lives in Iraq and Afghanistan.
The BMP has weaker armour not to have higher firepower and carry more troops, it's to be able to float Oh and what you showed it's not the BMP-3, it's the BMP-2
Bmp has stronger armour because it's more angled
@@aussiejezza That's not how it works. The front is quite angled yes, but the rear and the sides aren't. The interiors are cramped as fuck, and the armour is really quite lacking. You can quite easily disable bmp with weapons that the bradley would just shrug off.
@@AsserKortteenniemi armor is irrelevant any ifv can take out any other ifv. but we can clearly see the age in the bradley when comparing it to the Kurganets-25 or the T-15 Armata
@@MrRjizz Have you noticed that the Kurganets resembles the Bradley a lot more than the BMP? The Kurganets and the Armata both stand as tacit admissions that the extremely low silhouettes of their previous vehicles provided more deficiencies than benefits.
@@MrRjizz Interesting thing about T-15 Armata. I only saw One. Only One. 😉
Tanker here , loved the bradley , hunter killer teams were a valuable capability to have , the more optics you can put on the battlefield the better
The Brad is a solid vehicle from my experience
To small in the back for all the kit now adays. from my experience
Only in Warthunder 😃
My friend Brad also is a very solid guy
Agreed. Iraq 2004, a Bradley was a welcome sight.
Im not gonna lie, idk if it was the unit i was in or something other than that but, they were ALWAYS broken. Like they fixed them enough to use.
Hi, I am a Former Paratrooper, 82d Abn Div Medic 3rd Brigade during the late 80's. I, while in training at JRTC in 88 , got a tour in the field of A Bradly. I was as enamored with the Stout team as they were with my Airborne status. So our mutual respect of each others jobs led to an out standing tour of this magnificent battle steed. I got a tour of every position except the drivers compartment, to wich I only got to look at from a distance. The Commander's seat was cool, but the Gunners position was awesome. That must have been a very early modle because the Gunners optics were superior to the commanders. As the gunner surveyed the area we saw a lone soldier from the Armored Unit walk out away from the AO. we determined he was looking for a place to poop at around 0130hr because he was in fatigue bottoms tee-shirt bare foot and caring an entrenching tool and his rifle, this was at a range of about 200+ yards away. The gunner kept the 25mm gun on his head as he was walking (impressive) Then when he stoped to drop chow, we focused on better targets as he explained the capabilities. Eventually we turned the gun back and saw our pooping soldier who was done with his primary mission and was now looking for something on the ground, his entrenching tool. The optics were so sensitive we could see his pile of poop lit up like fire embers in the IR sights. The soldier was not as perceptive. He found his entrenching tool then disoriented turned to bury his poop to which he stepped in barefooted. We laughed then turned the turret to gis him his privace and spare some humility, or to position the turret so I could exit, and go back to my AO. It was a very funny moment.
i've watched a few of your videos and i can say that you are one of the few military channels that gets the idea that training, tactics and other human considerations are a huge part of the equation. it's not just hardware.
Kinda disappointed that you didn’t use full on anime eye edits for your thumbnail this time. A very good video overall!
I'm thinking of doing it, not because I want to but because those thumbnails perform 2% better. look what you've all made me do!
@@Taskandpurpose Dont search on youtube for "pomf pomf pomf"
"Hey, you!" "Sir?" "I don't want to march all the way there, call an Uber. M2 Bradley." "Yes, sir" "Make sure you use Uber Eats, I want a pizza too"
As an 11Mike in the first gulf war, dismount and gunner, I can tell you we loved the Bradley. The m231 port weapon was a joke and a danger if you drove through trees. (Whack! there went your jaw.) I also know, if you upgrade the engine to handle reactive armor but don't actually mount reactive armor, you can get full air off a berm at full speed but when you hit the ground, the halon goes off and you have to evacuate. In all seriousness, this was an outstanding vehicle. Just ask the BMP's that had the star pattern as the fins for the APDS ammo didn't even shear off as we hit them and had to switch to HE to get secondaries. If you've ever crawled into a BMP, I promise you'd prefer the Bradley.
Mike Richardson, until you fight people with actual competence.
I was in the gulf war, in a Bradley. The cannon was pretty amazing, but I felt it was a giant, boxy target too. We were lined up right next to the tanks, but we had nowhere near the protection. We were lucky that the environment was perfect for mechanized warfare. Outside the desert, I'm not so sure about its abilities.
I suppose that would be one of the reasons it needs to operate alongside the tanks. If you've got an Abrams and a Bradley charging at you, you're going to be sorely tempted to shoot at the tank first.
I'm not quite sure where to start. ("Infantry are basically cav scouts?" I know the US Army has recently revived the term "Dragoon" (I would argue incorrectly), but that was quite an interesting statement. And I know of no cav scout who says they were basically infantry, I say this as a former Bradley troop CO.) And, seriously, spell "Abrams" correctly in your description! I kindof wish you had cited things like the FM 7-7J for the Mechanized Infantry Platoon (Bradley) or the writings of the era, if you're going to cite the history of the tactics. Was the 25mm primarily to kill BMPs or to suppress troops? MG Foss, Commandant of the Infantry School at the time Bradley was entering service, repeatedly wrote the latter, for example, which I feel would have been appropriate to mention. Further, your conclusion from the one historical piece you cite (That BMPs were to go around independently) is not supported by Soviet doctrine of the time with its emphasis on all-arms effort. Indeed I would also take issue with the comment about how the US doctrine differs from the Soviet doctrine in its emphasis on suppression of anti-armor teams. After the events of the 1973 war, the Soviets came to the same conclusion, and enter the 30mm cannon to replace the 73mm for that purpose. Indeed, the question on how to use an IFV actually dated to the introduction into service of the Schutzenpanzer HS.30 of the 1950s (Everyone seems to forget about that vehicle), the Germans considering the prime feature of their IFV-borne infantry to be the speed with which they could attack, dismount, achieve their objective, and then get back on the move. Which is fair enough as anti-armor man-portable threats weren't such a problem at the time, but they certainly did provide doctrinal food for thought and was influential in the early usage thought of Bradley. Yet it is instructive to note that the US Army, even in the second half of the 1980s, had still not entirely settled the question of what, exactly, to do with the Bradley. It was a vehicle created as much because it could be, as much as an identified doctrinal role. Indeed, identified problems with how the vehicle was to be used led to several re-structures of doctrine in the 1980s, and even restructures of squad sizes in 1990 and the late 1990s due to complaints from the field that utilisation of the infantry was not well developed. It may also be interesting to note that the Germans acknowledged the lack of infantry in their IFVs by making placing part of their panzer brigades not in IFVs, and indeed even the Soviets tended to combine IFVs and APCs in their motor rifle divisions. The US, however, went all-in on Bradley. Something I do wish Spookston had covered a bit in his video, and it's on my list of video topics I need to cover, was the bit that the film got right: That famous sequence where the Generals kept adding new ideas. If you look at the development process for the Bradley, you'll find that mission creep was a thing. Compare the various pictures in the sequence over the years with photographs of the MX765 or XM723., The problem came with the cancellation of the XM800 recon vehicles, and the resulting requirement to combine the roles of the CFV and the IFV into one vehicle which the Army could afford to meet both criteria. Combine that also with the US Army's relatively unique take on the roles of cavalry as being an independent fighting force as well as one just focused on reconnaissance (Why do so few other IFVs come with missiles?), and you start to realise that the design comes with serious compromises. Now, don't get me wrong. I very much liked my Bradley, about as much as my Abrams. I was well aware of its good points and bad points as a cavalry vehicle. However, as a compromise vehicle, the description in Pentagon Wars of it being a "A troop transport that can't carry troops, a reconnaissance vehicle that's too conspicuous to do reconnaissance, a quasi-tank that has less armor than a snow-blower, but carries enough ammo to take out half of D.C." is pretty much on the ball, and the vehicle has to be operated with that description in mind. It is certainly capable of adequately performing the roles given to it (At least after nearly two decades of tinkering with its doctrine), especially on the historical basis, but it's getting a tad long in the tooth and is well overdue for the upgunning from the 25mm which the Army has been talking about for a while.
In my head I read it in your voice to make sure it sounded right
@@Wesrl Did it work?
@@TheChieftainsHatch it was a significant emotional event .
Could you expand some on the Soviet armored doctrine of the late Cold War (late-70s and on)? Maybe as an idea for a video?
@Chris R. "Hell if I know..."
As a Bradley MASTER GUNNER, I approve of this video!
Bliss?
@@josephdeliz3455 Ft. Carson
I agree with you. The Marder is very similar, but no one is saying the Marder is bad, especially with the Milan it is a very effective light tank that can work against heavy tanks, infantry and buildings. FINALLY, these tanks will be delivered in q1 to Ukraine. Slava Ukraine!!!
The advantage that I’ve heard in regards to the marder is it consumes far less fuel making logistics easier(not sure if this is true as I have zero military experience).
@@lamsmiley1944 It's always a tradeoff. More fuel requirements means more logistics. Heavier more survivable vehicles is good. But if you run out of fuel on a mission that's very bad. Also heavier vehicles tend to wear and tear faster requiring more maintenance and spare parts. But light armor is not going to survive a direct hit from a tank round. The military is like a toolbox where you always want to have the right tools available to get the job done. But your customer also wants to not overpay.
I wish they performed better
The Marder is a great feat of Canadian engineering. Well done!
The Marder is a German light Tank (armored personnel carrier) produced by Thyssen-Henschel und Krupp MaK, the main core is Geramn Engineering and there is definitely also a cooperation with other western countries. Important is that Putin is losing the war against Ukraine! @@mattdowning7281
You mentioned horses , my Dad was in the 106th cavalry recon during WW2, he told me one time , how mad he was when they took his horse and made him ride an Indian motorcycle. He didn’t use it during the war ,they had bantam jeeps and armor light vehicles like the M8 greyhound , M5A1 Stuart
There is a German soldier's account of his experience during D-day and he mentions that it was quite surprising that the Allies brought no horses with them; they were entirely mechanized. The German army relied significantly on horses through the end of the war.
@@mikec8116 The US was the only country that could afford to have a fully motorized army in ww2. Everybody else used horses. The interesting thing is that during the mud season soviet union managed to beat the Nazi's near moscow and slow the germans because they relied on their mechanized forces that got stuck in mud. Stalin before the muddy season redirected a lot of horses from the agricultural sector to red army for the muddy season and therefore had a much more mobile army.
Cappy likes to keep it loose and casual, but he actually knows what he is talking about. He talks about logistics, communications, and coordination - stuff that actually matters in the field. Keep up the good work.
"You can't afford a door like that, did you see what it stood up to ?"
Your self awareness and sarcasm is what makes me absolutely adore your work. 10/10
It's funny that people try to call it garbage sometimes when this baby destroyed more armored equipment than even Abrams tanks did in the Gulf War. My grandpa helped load these babies up for transportation in the Gulf War with his unit. He liked it back then and those were the old models.
Yah, going against ragtag bunch of terrorized conscripts who hate Sadamn Hussien and are looking for any chance to surrender and maybe go to the land of the big PX is not a big deal. We call the French "surrender monkey's" for a reason, the Iraqi troops are "Surrender and Live and F--k Sadamn monkeys".
@@motomike3475 The Iraqi military had 650k military personel involved and thousands of tanks, artillery pieces, planes, and one of the most powerful anti-air defense networks at the time involved. I'd hardly call that ragtag.
@@JTMaster Leaf cutter ants are well organized and obey their master ants; but one hungry ant eater can lick them all up in a couple of hours.
Addendum: Don't you find it strange the the orcs have lost 6,000+ armored vehicles in Ukraine and 3,000+ tanks in less than a year? This is the end of armored vehicles in the battlefield.
@@motomike3475 exagerated numbers, but not as exagerated and mythical as the numbers Russia claims for stuff. I go by visually verified losses and add about 20% to get a more accurate number.
This video is very interesting to me. My son did three tours in Iraq and Afghanistan in the US Army infantry in the 1ID and the 1AD in Bradley's. Thanks to all the vets who served in the Bradley's. I been told by vets the enemy feared the Bradley over M1Abrams . The M242 Bushmaster chain gun is a 25 mm (25×137mm) single-barrel chain-driven autocannon. Used the Bradley fighting vehicle is very wicked🥺autocannon. Go Army Go 🧔
That M242 is used all over the place these days, even on some Navy ships!
@@jedironin380 M242 a good chain gun.
I'm glad you mention Spookston,he is underrated at what he is doing.
I had a class with a lady who worked on design of the Bradley in the early 1980's. It's been in service what, close to 40 years? For the purpose of being a recon vehicle for M1's, carry a squad, and being able to take care of itself, I think it's got a great record.
when i was in first cav, we had m2a2's and the echo company was being decommissioned, which were the m3's. i was able to drive the m2a1 also and can honestly say i felt safer in the a2 and the bradley is a great vehicle. but the a1 was clearly set up for more ammo storage, both TOWs and 25mm. Its not fair that i poke fun at it just like the movie, but i do.
NEEDED THIS VIDEO, Just rewatched pentagon wars last night lol
it's a great movie one of my favorites! it's inaccurate and unfair towards the M2 Bradley but that's okay - I think the point of the movie is more about how messed up vehicle procurement can be in general
@@Taskandpurpose Yea the real tragedy is not how the Bradley turned out but the time and expense. Its meant we haven't had many armor programs actually complete at all. Leading to things like not have MRAPs going into Iraq.
The BFV - Bradley Family Vehicle! Not only will you be safe in an accident, you won’t even know you were in one! (Stole this from an old cartoon when the Hummer came out).
I was so happy going from Bradley crew to being a 249 gunner. Some of the Bradley's design choices really made me scratch my head, but I'd rather have than go without.
The Australian Army had a similar vehicle during the 60-90's. Although it was a turret on top of a M113 chassis. The turret had a 76mm gun with .30cal as coaxial. Nicknamed "the beast" the MRV (Medium Recon vehicle) was more accurate than the Leopard tanks also used by Australia at the time. The MRV was given to cavalry recon units that worked beyond the forward edge of the battle area and behind enemy lines to fight the BMP and BRDM. Like all tracked vehicle it required a huge amount of maintenance and was eventually disbanded to make way for the LAV 25.
I can't wait for Croatia to finnaly recieve 120 M2A2ODS Bradley IFV's 76 will be modernized on A3 standards. One of the best IFV's in the world!😁😀 🇭🇷❤🇺🇸
Nećemo dobiti 120 nego 84, a od toga 60 ide na m3/m4 standard. Ostali u rezervu.
@@Imperiusism A Jane di je pričuva i obuka?84 nije dovoljno 76 će biti modernizirano od kojih 60 ide u aktivnu upotrebu i ostatak u dijelove I onda nam treba još komada za obuku i pričuvu Također nije potvrđeno koliko točno BVP-a nabavljamo Minimalno možemo 84,a maksimalno 130+ kaže American State Department.
@@brunopalkovic1672 Kolko je meni poznato, dobivamo 84. Ali to su sve nagađanja dokle god ne bude službene potvrde. Ima nekih spekulacija da bi prvi bradley trebali doći do jeseni a možda i prije. Samo nek se nabavlja!
@@Imperiusism Bruno govori istinu...Očekuje se potpis ugovora za isporuku na Jesen.Čekamo da nam odobre 120 komada.Sačekat ćemo još nekoliko mijeseci da vidimo što će biti.
During my time in Iraq I hated how the Bradly 25 mm Chain-gun feed would bend and twist. As I saw it that was one of its main weaknesses. The other great weakness I saw was how often the track pads wore out in Iraq. I don't know if it was the heat or the fact that we had to frequently travel over roads, but we had to constantly change the track pads. I hope they have improved those 2 weaknesses!
I was on an M901 in the 80's. When I first saw a Bradley at NTC, I was happy I was operating out of something built off of the M113 in size; the chassis of which is around six feet tall. I wish they had gone the direction of the BMP. Sure, it can't carry as many personnel, but it's also a MUCH smaller target.
I was also told by a few folks that the engines would catch on fire in pretty standard situations. Was that you experience as well? I hear a lot of polarizing opinions on the vehicle (mostly positive though).
Dude, I lived in Baghdad three and half years. Depends in which part of Iraq you were deployed, but sand and hot weather and weapons radiating heath, esspecialy during hot summer days are the main culprits for all bad things on any military fighting vehicles.. I was kid when l lived in Baghdad, in Carrada street, upper part of street which was occupied more affluent citizens or businesses. Have you try fish, called "mazgouff (l don't know how spell correctly..). There was a bunch of pools for fish trade, and you could be came there and choose fish, ordered exact time and name of the restaurant when you wanted to be served, and number of guests. Bigger fish, bigger crowd. Those fish was cleaned, spread over charcoal heath and fastened also with sandalwood sticks slowly burn on sandalwood charcoal, with abundance of spices.. Year when my family went home, an asshole Saddam Husein had came on power and started war with Iran. I never forget how cool Baghdad was on night, smelly streets, orange-white American 60's and 70's cars was mainly taxy's. If you were in hurry, cab driver would be pull his right hand out of window, clutch three fingers and just shouted to the other drivers word "Dakikka", which meant (hope still do) "Just a one moment", and all other drivers (mainly cab drivers) will gave you a right to pass before them. Traffic lights was rare, street traffic was massive, but nobody hadn't use this word under false pretences; only when they have had passenger in real hurry. 🤯 Yess, Bradley.. 😂 great IFV, USA will sell-out some Bradley M2A2 to Croatian Army, l think 89 vehicles..🖖
I would like the Croatian Army, I mean those politicians from the "government" - all cheap slaves for Brussels free masonry, manage to grow some balls and start buying at least 100 Abrams M1A3 tanks, because MBT forces were neglected after 2003. 29 years we still have a redesigned M-84A4, which is basically an Orcs T-72 with new nice pain job, but without any ERA or any modular additions to the armor plates. Naked ugly shitty turret. After the Homeland War and defense against Serbian aggression, Croatia was then on the best path to make the "promised" MBT called Degman-95, with a welded turret - no this cast shit, thermal imaging for gunner and commander; hunter-killer configuration, but bastard politicians who were "too busy" at the time to sign the capitulation and send our hero generals to The Hague (order of the British Masonic Lodge to share the blame for "Death of Yugoslavia" (and France) anti-German permanent obstacle) joining the "Fourth Reich with all generation of people born after May 09.1945, vaccinated against their warrior spirit. Their new millitary salute can be; LGBT Merkel or gay hitler!
Tracks just wear out faster than wheels. Why armies that focus on lower logistics use wheels. Why the french amx10 rc is wheeled but equivalent to Bradley from the same time period. Both have pros and cons on the track Vs wheels.
The Battle of 73 Easting wasn't noteworthy for the engagements with last gen BMPs... It was noteworthy to see them tear through lines of T72s.
Helped mfg the early production aluminum track wheels in the early 80's in Los Angeles Ca -- Extusion press , annealing & heat treat & temper ,material handling labor.. later changed to steel as weight increased in later models. ( @ different govt. sub contractor)
Started as Light Infantry, then move to mechanized as the M113 was being fazed out, and moved into the M2A1 then out. I liked riding over walking and the enclosed Bradley over the open hatch M113...They all had their pluses and minuses but the protection and firepower of the Bradley was comforting.
0:31 "get it from a random youtube channel" He knows me too well.
You're being to... Random to me. Though, I believe you for sure.
Awesome video on my favorite IFV/CFV retired 11B, 19D and of course 11M.... combined arms is key and junior leadership and training training and more training ended up as OPFOR Etrp 2/11ACR good video
As a 19D4H scout instructor I taught M113, M901, and Hummer and had training on the M3. Fun times all the other instructors had tracks thrown my recruits had detailed coaching on each maneuver and never threw a track despite really almost separating individual track shoes. I loved what I saw of the Bradley's timing was just off to get to run them as I became an 11B4X drill to end my career with 27 Years' service most on the reserve side.
Tracks on one vehicle I ran with were at 1,400 miles on them way past due for replacement. Area 3 at Ft. Knox in the Mud. Pins had cut almost through the shoes at several connections. I had the feel for what the tracks were doing the others just gunned them and had snapped tracks in the mud. Great fun to watch them as I took more recruits around the course first day of driving for them.
I was introduced to ‘pentagon wars' by this channel a while ago and it has been a permanent download on my tab ever since. Thank you Cappy.
Well I hope you're not taking it as a documentary or an exposé on the Bradley, cause the book the movie was based on was made by reformer, a military Scientologist if you will the likes of Perry Spray.
@The Pew Hunter Tossed In A School Dumpster Oh yes, they're the types who think Radars aren't useful on aircraft and that the M113 is more survivable to M1. Real nut cases.
@The Pew Hunter Tossed In A School Dumpster they thought throwing men with good equipment was bad so they want to throw men with bad equipment at problems Also they think the m113 is the best thing ever and tried to make it into a plane yes a plane why because they can They hate the a10 and think that the a10 should be stripped of anything other than a gun engines a radio and glass
It is funny as a movie and maybe bureaucracy satire. But it does a disservice to all the engineers working on the Bradley You might want to watch: kzhead.info/sun/mtGuhr2OiXd9mn0/bejne.html or: kzhead.info/sun/ZcuId6yckXajeKM/bejne.html (not PG rated)
@@thecentralintelligenceagen9963 THE AEROGAVIN Funny thing is that the reformers claim the F-16 and A-10 are their creations even though they're crammed full of electronics that they claimed were detrimental.
I think you outlined its strengths and weaknesses pretty well. I think it's too Heavy and too tall, but is well equipped for battle. Operating in sand for extended periods is hard on tracks which are definitely a consideration because you become a mobility kill as soon as a track breaks and rarely does that happen at an opportune moment. Good Video and an honest assessment of its capabilities.
It's tall, because the BMP, with its main gun at barely 2 meters off the ground, had an unfortunate habit of taking out friendlies to its front. Something a basically atheist government never bothered to correct. At least yours cares about such things. And, at 29 tons, that's reasonable for what it does. I've done 6 Rhine river crossings, driving an M2A2.
Who has track break in the desert? Maybe some idiots that don't walk track or adjust track tension. I spent fourteen years dealing with Bradley's. From the ODS to the A3. It isn't too tall and is quite light for it's capabilities. It could see the enemy long before they could see it. Every armored vehicle requires a long logistics train as the Russians are figuring out in Ukraine. Parts, fuel, lubricants, coolant, ammo, food, and water. Miss one of these logic musts and you aren't doing anything. Hence broken down sitting on the side of the road. The Bradley is fine as long as you feed it what it needs. Don't piss it off though, because it literally shits infantry. Angry pissed off dismounts.
I was an infantryman on an M901 in the 80's. When I saw it, my first thought was "Damn, that's a big target." We were still on M113/M901 when I left. I can only speak to how tall that was. And on an open battlefield, it should be easy to spot WITHOUT the need for optics or advanced sighting systems. I'm not FUDDING saying the M901 was fantastic. It was slow, and the missile system took like 30 seconds to raise before one could fire, but I would have liked to them to try to stay with something closer to seven feet tall. That Bradley is almost ten feet tall.
@@menopillion9853 it's track record speaks for itself. Too tall, too big, and too heavy yet it still did work even on MBTs. Open desert, forest, and Urban environment it worked. The weapons systems worked as advertised. The vehicle performed it's mission as advertised. It's fast, well armed, and is survivable if hit. Could it be better? Yeah. It is pretty good as is though. Just like any other vehicle if used properly.
I was in the M-2 Bradley in Fort Hood for the last seven months of my deployment (Dismounted.) I was in Delta Co. 1/5 Cavalry (Cav). I got there out of OSUT training in Fort Benning, but my unit and Echo company were wiped out in Vietnam, so 1/5 Cav had been operating M-113s with Alpha, Bravo, and Charlie companies since the end of the conflict. When we got to Fort Hood, they re-created Delta and Echo companies but didn't give us any M-113s since those were getting phased out. In short, we walked everywhere. Echo company was a Charlie Company, using mortars, so they did get M-113s with the mortar mounts. Because most of us in Delta Company were OSUT 11 Bravos and had little experience with tracked vehicle tactics, we spent six months in the field of Fort Hood to learn how to properly use the vehicle. We then went to Fort Irwin for NTC, where we kicked ass. After NTC, I was sent to Germany, where they made me a driver for the Bradley, which I never got to do other than in training at Hood. I had a significant accident in France, which caused the Army to medivac me to Lamstul Army Medical Canter and Walter Reed, so I never got a chance to be a regular driver.
Prepare your angus Putin :D
You mentioned spookston hell yeah
his rundown on the Bradley and the Pentagon Wars is perfect
As a 1980's Cav Scout, we were all drooling over the Bradley compared to the M113 and M901 ITV.
You and and your channel are just great. I was a cav officer in the early 80s when we had the h series configuration in a regimental cav squadron: M113, M901 ITV based on the 113, and M-60A3s. After my active duty time the Army went to the J series with Bradley's and M1s and made history in Desert Storm. I was incredibly impressed. And now watching how the Russians are floundering in Ukraine, it is interesting how they have not caught up to what we can do. Keep it up!
As a mechanic working on the original test version at APG DURING THE LATE 70s I to am enamored with the Bradley IFV or as I know it, the XM723 IFV. The improvements made to this vehicle are tremendous. I believe as you do that this is an outstanding vehicle and that The Pentagon Wars got it completely wrong for the sake of some cheap laughs. Loved your video and I’ll be checking out you other videos. Thank you for your efforts.
4:43 it says bmp3 in action but its accually a bmp2. edit: same thing in 5:40
Very interesting and well-done video - thanks! One friendly nudge: the footage at 4:14+ and 11:49 shows MT-LBs, not BMPs. MT-LBs are prime movers and multi-purpose platforms - but they are also the real battle taxis. After dropping off troops, I would recommend high-tailing it out of there.
I had hull serial number 2AA00496 - HQ13 2nd bn 30th Inf., 1st Brigade, 3ID. I was the gunner, once upon a time in Schweinfurt, Germany. My last gunnery, we fired Distinguished with a 496/500 on day phase Table 8 and not much worse on night phase. The Bradley as we operated them in preparation for an all out Soviet assault was an amazing upgrade from what we had before. For maintenance, I was spoiled because our Brads were new so we spent more time upgrading them than actually fixing them. Downside, when I had mine, the Army still thought they could swim. So, we lost a few to that experiment (really? you have to take a strap and rig the left sponson box door open so it won't go in circles? And, someone thought that was combat ready?) Aside from the swimming BS, the Brad kicked ass and we actually thought we had a chance of surviving the Warsaw Pact onslaught (never mind the CPX's that showed 3rd ID taking 50% casualties and becoming combat ineffective in 48 hours using Vulcans against parachuting Spetznaz trying to make a bridgehead over the Main river. Glad that never happened in real life.
I've been out almost 20 years. Watching your videos makes me miss it.
When do we finally get to see a video on the legendary 1982 Toyoty Camry UFV - urban fighting vehicle? 😎
No Scout ever.... ever ever said, "I'm basically infantry"... ever.
If I remember right infantry guys where jealous of the scouts because we had cooler toys 😂😂
You would get slapped for saying that shit, I never heard that come out of any 19D in active or the guard
Lol, 19ds just kinda rolled around revelling in the hate the infantry had for us.
They just think they're like infantry scouts. Sorry, a cammo net tied to your two story diesel junk heap is not a ghillie suit
@@heisenberg1732 173rd Airborne?
Being a old Canadian Armoured Corp Reservist I Loved my old Cougar AVGP... So I know where your coming from Cappy. Great video as always.
The biggest problem I had as a driver for the Bradley was that the driver's night vision was junk. tearing off the screen helped a little, but once it was cold or foggy, the ground temperature would be the same all over, meaning I couldn't tell the difference between the road I was supposed to be on, and the ditch because it also lacked depth perception. My quick fix on some occasions was to use the night vision for my combat helmet and hold with one hand and drive with the other. Another problem from a Maintenace perspective was that the computer would have a shit load of codes detailing errors when there wasn't any. most of the codes were bull shit too like if you dropped ramp and propped it up with a stump or something, it would display an error code even after you raised the ramp. The crew heater, while nice for the gunner and BC, was basically unnecessary for the driver even in winter in Poland. Driver sits next to a giant heater called an engine. they'd be better off installing the ball chiller from older trucks into the drivers compartment to keep them from heat catting in desert climate. also, the hatches leaked like a sieve when it rained, so upgrading the seals around each hatch would go along way. I know everything but the optics is more about crew comfort, but it defiantly helps with moral. upgrading the rifle holders so they can properly fit an M4 or the next gen would also help. And what the hell was with that seat behind the driver? defiantly could have tasked out some sort of additional duty for someone sitting back there, like a radio operator or something
Just to nitpick. I couldn't resist. 4:20 not a BMP, but a bunch of MT-LB 4:35 not a BMP-3 but a BMP-1 variant with a broomstick as a mock-gun 5:40 not a BMP-3 but a BMP-2 11:49 again no BMP, but a MT-LB ;)
I'm confused, how do you tell the difference between the bmp 1 and bmp 2? They both look identical!
@@justinbud8912 I may be wrong but the armament. The 1’s gun looks closer to a cannon and the 2’s is an automatic cannon so lower diameter
@@justinbud8912 It is actually quite easy. The most obvious is the turret and gun. BMP-1 has a small 1-man turret with a short 73mm gun. BMP-2 has a larger 2-man turret with a long 30mm auto-cannon. There are a lot more differences, but the turret and gun are the most easily identifiable ones.
No way you mentioned spookston. Warthunder channels getting recognition is nice
I was on Bradley's for 3 years. It was my home in the field. I actaully enjoyed it.
I was involved in the force on force testing with this vehicle at CDEC in the early 90's. I saw some familiar looking terrain from Fort Hunter Liggett in your clips.
Great video, but missing some key points. I’m a big fan of the Brad, but it’s not that rosy. Pre-Desert storm the Bradley IFV and CFV for that matter had major flaws. First it was designed to swim and the armor package was lean. It was way too heavy and dangerous to swim, so didn’t. The post ODS versions did away with the skirts and added armor plates from the track to the turret. Initial BFV had gun ports on the side for the crew. The M231 was an M16 variant without a stock or fore grip and fired full auto and an increased cyclic rate of fire. There was almost a foot from the vision block to the gun, and it was impossible to aim. It was a load of fun to fire outside the Brad, but worthless as part of the system. Early versions of the BFV did not have a very good fire control system. The gun was fired using burst on target, with no ranger finder it was KY windage all the way. When paired with an M1A1 we could pass the range and using the ballistic reticle they could get fairly close on the first round. The first BFV threw up a huge plume of exhaust smoke when accelerating… and it blew right into the commander’s face. Later versions exhausts were deflected somewhat Finally (for now) the first versions were around 50,000 lbs. The most recent weigh in at 75,000, making the BFV a much different system today.
The ABRAMS & BRADLEY SERIES have always made a great Team! Go CAV⚡
First Team
well said.
Yes one can say they make a combined arms team that is Second To None.
Привет от ланцета! Как там броня еще хорошая или уже нет?
Final verdict: overhyped like most things before they actually get put to a test.
I was a crew member on the Bradley Linebacker ADA vehicle when they were first introduces, Bradley’s are great the linebacker didn’t work out though, seems like the Army was going for a unicorn with the Linebacker. The US Army just came out with a new smaller wheeled short range ADA vehicle.
I was an 11 Mike. A Bradley dismount. I loved the Bradley and missed it when they took it away. 1/16th 1st ID. Duty First.
5/5 CAV, AKA 3-36 IN. Behind every Spearhead there's a shaft!
I was there! D Co. 1992 - 94
@@WW5RM .... Iron Rangers. Hooah.
@@RetiredWarriorHUAW dats right! When was you there?
@@WW5RM .... 1999 to 2003 went Texas National Guard after active duty. 1/141 36th ID 56th BCT. Remember the Alamo.
I've had a love/hate relationship with the Bradley. I went from Light Infantry to Mechanized so the last time I'd ever seen a Bradley was once in Basic. I was a gunner and it never failed me. The first one I was on didn't have an LRF so you had to dial the range in but even then overall I have no complaints.
I was on active duty in the late 1970’s. We knew we needed a real IFV - not a taxi. We looked at our colleagues in the Bundeswehr with envy because they had Marders. Wow, if only we could have those. The Bradley’s finally arrived when I was in the reserves. They are great. My nieces who are still on active duty (career types), say their peers like the Bradley’s still though they are looking forward to the replacement.
If they're still gonna use cavalry as a term I want them to start calling mechanized infantry dragoons.
don't a lot of mech infantry units adopt the moniker 'dragoon' at the company or battalion level?
'Cavalry' is a specialized unit that conducts reconnaissance, route reconnaissance, and Economy of Force operations. But more importantly 'Cav' is a state of mind.
@@colincampbell767 I was told by 1-4 Cav-guys to never call a Cav-man infantry.
@@patrickwoite7188 Technically there are infantry in Cav units (real cav units not the 1st Cavalry Division). The mortar crews are 11-series.
Write the Dept of the Army about your concerns.
I like how Cappy mistakes the Mt-Lb as an example for the BMP-2 and 3 😂😂 Ps: Love your Video’s Cappy!
makes the m2 look good when compared to mtlb/mtlbv =)
Considering how many facts he got wrong when speaking about the BMP, I wonder if he noticed.
Yeah and now the Russian are making even better he needs to do like a brad vs T15 video
I was at ft hood in 83 and was part of the unit that was first to get the Bradley. I loved it but it had its problems. I was on the M3 where the height , fuel tanks and aluminum armor were issues. If you dont understand just look at a Bradley from the 80s and one now. They also no longer swim Bradleys, something i did a few times because theyre just to heavy. The speed, ability to generate smoke and weapons systems do help make up for the deficiencies.
Speaking of thermal imaging, each time I watch one of those armored vehicle videos like yours I see tons of smoke coming out of the exhaust system and I think about how much heat there is, spurting away. To me, the BMP and the Bradley are huge, hot targets. I hope that the future electric-hybrid Bradley will be able to run on its batteries for useful amounts of time.
Look at a discharging Lithium-ion battery with Thermals, then get back to me on how much heat is there. There's a reason why Teslas that are pushed too hard in street races burst into flames.
My cat stepped on the keyboard and muted you, I think he's one of those who don't like the Bradley, I'm sorry about that.
cat be like "your task and purpose is to feed me, now move it."
Get a 50 and couple of LAWs on your next Toyota mann... Edit: never mind, you are on the right path.
Around '79, I rotated back to Ft. Knox from W. Germany to OSUT. On a road march in M113's, our column passed several XM2's parked in the woodline. "That's next year's model", I shouted to the new guys.
Great to see tons of these now going to Ukraine
Right now only 50, but the number will definitely increase
Your commercial made me laugh out loud more than once. Well played Sir
Adding up to other comments, the main reasoning which led Soviet BMPs to be built as light vehicles was the swimming ability. Soviet military command had been preparing for a war on European theater full of rivers and channels, and the WWII experience indicated how problematic it could be to maintain high offensive tempo without the ability to neglect water obstacles. Soviet strategy for war in Europe was obviously a "blitzkrieg" type one, aiming at French ports which must have been cut off for the US reinforcements to lose their destination points. Therefore the generals were willing to sacrifice protection over mobility. Edit: it's not correct to say that BMPs were supposed to be used independently while Bradleys were meant to be a part of a team with M1s. On offense, BMPs were always supposed to go in the second line behind MBTs since their armor couldn't resist any anti-tank weapon available at that time
A Bradley saved my life along with their platoon and ours during the first trip to Bagdad. We ended up stopping for some reason next to a bunch of Bradley's My buddy and had never seen the inside of one before and one Marine was willing to show us around. The coolest thing he showed us and he was very proud of was inferred camara. He said who ever was on watch could look out at the other Marines sleeping and see if anyone was getting close to hypothermia. We went to sleep for the first real time in days on the side of the road in shallow holes and woke up men zip tied all in a row really close to us. We went to the guys in the Bradley and ask what the hell happened. He said the fuckers tried to sneak up on us in our sleep to cut our throats. They apparently forgot we can see in the dark and laughed. We shook his hand and said thank you before getting in our trucks that were carrying the bridges that were going to be built over the two major river so the whole convey could get to Bagdad and end the war. So we thought. What was going to be six months Operation Defend Daddies Pride turned into 19 years.