What Happens When You Apply a Rivet Nuts to Wood / Woodworking DIY
2022 ж. 2 Қар.
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I tried applying the rivet (pop) nut used for joining thin steel plates to wood.
The test wood used was plywood, red pine, rubber wood, walnut wood, merbau, etc. The results were not suitable for soft wood (red pine), but good results for hard wood. If it is used for woodworking such as a knob, it seems to be easier to use than the existing nut.
What's needed is a rivnut whose expansion zone isn't adjacent to the top of the fastener, but closer to the end so it expands with more wood above it to provide pullout resistance.
with fangs that bite into the wood
I was about to say the same thing!
...or fit the rivnut on to the back of the piece so that the bolt is pulling it into the piece, not out of it.
You can make the bulge on the nut happen further down into the wood by wrapping wire around the shaft near the top of the nut. That way when the screw compresses the nut, it can't do it right at the top -- the wrapped wire prevents that compression there.
These rivnuts are very common used in the aviation industry. Thanks for sharing 👍
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Too commonly used IMO.
I'm pretty sure if you drilled those holes deeper than you did it would not try pushing out while you were installing the part. If you watch it's pushing out because the bolts are bottoming out on the back side pushing the whole thing out before it can start to expand.
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I had a real specific need a while back, and it did not need to be real strong and I ended up using some of these in a concrete wall. I drilled a hole just slightly larger than the rivet nut, coated the outside with an epoxy, inserted and compressed. Held like a champ.
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I don't see why they wouldn't work in concrete, even without the epoxy.
@@ameunier41 I tried it without the epoxy at first, and after putting the screw in, it was not that hard to wiggle it out. With the epoxy, it would not budge.
Very nice, you could drill through the wood and use it as a blind nut. Really strong. I will have to include this in my list of Fasteners. Thank you
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Try the longer ones meant for thicker plates. Crimple zone is further down the pop nut
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I was thinking similar. And if you want to do it to thin plywood, use a washer on the back.
@@BenNawrath that's a clever idea.
Put the rivnut in from the back (if possible) and the flange will pull against it instead of pulling out the weaker expanded part.
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Что выдумывать проще взять специальные ввёртки с резьбой снаружи и внутри, их садят на клей и они гораздо надёжнее
A modified version, with the rugged bending part moved a little bit more towards the end would be perfectly suitable for this application.
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That was my exact thinking. The manufacture could move the crumple zone a few mm toward the bottom of the nut and you have a fantastically stong connection.
Yup. Same thought. Since I know they don't make it that way I thought about grinding the rivet crimping spot further toward the end.
Nitonakrętka była stworzona do łączenia cienkich blach za pomocą połączeń śrubowych lecz bez dostępu z jednej strony i niemożności wykonania gwintu w zbyt cienkiej blasze o wystarczającej sile na rozciąganie takiego połączenia. Można nitonakrętkę stosować do innych materiałów ale trzeba liczyć się właśnie z mniejszą trwałością związaną z mniejszą wytrzymałością danego materiału niż metale. Ja używałem nitonakrętek w tworzywach sztucznych. By nie uszkadzać tworzywa i wzmacniać mocowanie dodatkowo dodawałem metalową podkładkę, co nie zawsze jest możliwe.
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이번 영상도 기대를 저버리지 않는군요 잘보고갑니다 역시 👍 다음 영상도 기대해볼께요
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감사합니다. 당신같은 실험맨 덕분에 신문물을 접할 수 있습니다.
과찬 감사합니다. 좋은 저녁 되세요 🍀👍💚
Since rivnuts are brand specific... try a plus nut or split nut designed to flare around an inch back from the face. From experience, the nut must be matched to the material thickness.
A really useful test. Thank you. Not something I would have thought of doing, but, yes it works, with appropriate guidelines.
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There are threaded screw inserts which are specifically designed for soft wood 😅 Might want to look into that if you work with this a lot. I have seen a type which is self-tapping as well, so you don't need to pre-drill holes first. Good stuff👌
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Если винтовые вставки отсутствуют, то это будет заменой. Хотя и временной. 👍🏼
@@PavelKostolomoff Истинный
나무의 종류별로 테스트에 굿~입니다. ^^ 니벳너트~용도가 다양하군요
감사합니다. 목재에 실사용에는 에폭시 본드를 첨부하는 것이 좋을 듯 합니다.^^
Try a prebulbed style? I often just epoxy rivnuts into wood after I've scratched a rough surface on the nut. It's good for making jigs, but if you want it to last, I always use the stainless steel EZ-Lok threaded inserts. Other threaded inserts tend to be too soft for most aspects. You can use the rivnuts in your video for things like aluminum or steel that is on a woods surface.
Gracias por su trabajo, tiempo y dedicación. Muy útil y práctica la tuerca.
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I’m surprised it works although I wouldn’t trust it, they make wood treaded inserts for machine screws. I did like the video!😊
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Excelente tutorial maestro, cómo siempre unas ideas peculiares, gracias por compartir sus conocimientos y experiencias, un saludo cordial y por supuesto un gran like desde Narón (Galicia)👌🤓
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You should try it with rivet nuts intended for thicker materials. It moves the “weakened” part farther from the surface. I bet it would work even better. This has me thinking how pop rivets would work!🤔
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При тесте на отрыв. Нужно учесть что болт упирается в древесину и вытаскивает основание. А нужно было тогда просверлить глубже отверстия под болт.
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Ist doch selbstverständlich, daß die Niete nicht halten kann, wenn das ins Holz gebohrte Loch kürzer ist als die Schraube, die man anschließend in die Niete schrauben will!
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Put a few drops of oil on the thrust washer and bolt threads, it will go easier and last a lot longer
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멋진 아이디어! 감사합니다 ^^
저도 감사합니다. 좋은 하루되세요 😊🍀👍
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Now that is cool 😎 Thanks for sharing 👍
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@@squirreltech what are you going on about
Rivnuts plus a dab of epoxy would be very solid.
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Amazing work ❣️ I am support your Chanel ❤️ Have a great day 😊
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I absolutely love riv-nuts. It's niche thing but once you have a tool and bag of them, you find uses.
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Buenos días. Buen video. Sería posible saber donde adquirió el útil para las tuercas ?. Muchas gracias
Lo compré en Corea, pero creo que también podría venderse en Amazon. búsqueda de costillas. Gracias 😊 Que tengas un buen día 👍🍀👌
Thanks for doing this so we don't have to!
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Trial n error new creation. Craft Level Up. Very nice. 👏🤙
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Like19,.,.,. 영상 잘 봤습니다!! 또 오겠습니다!!
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So what you're saying is if you must use in wood first drill plenty of relief behind it second don't tighten it all the way down and third never use for anything structural... got it thanks, very informative
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여러 작업에 사용될 부품 같네요. 저도 언젠가 마음껏 사용해볼 날이 오기를 😊
네~ 목재 사용 시에는 에폭시 본드를 바르면 효과는 확실할 것 같습니다. 감사합니다 😊😊 좋은 주말 되세요 🍀
Slt c est une excellente découverte j avais pas pensé à cette méthode, car il existe des chevilles pour le bois mais !!! Et sa a l'air de bien fonctionner p 👍👍👍👍
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안녕하세요. 검은별님 이런 방식으로 목재에 쓰는 너트 중 혹시 목재피스에 맞는 직경의 너트는 뭐라고 부르나요? 꼭 알고 싶습니다..
안녕하세요… 이해를 잘 못 했어요. ㅜㅜ
혹시 번데기 너트를 말씀하시는 건지요? 그려서 주실 수 있음 시간나실 때 메일로 주세요.
This is wood expansion anchors. The same as in concrete - KB-TZ2 and many other manufactured by HILTI and Simpson.
Exelente video 😀👍gracias
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На мой взгляд на видео очень доступно продемонстрировано, что всё таки резьбовая заклёпка не очень удачный вариант для дерева. Гораздо лучше на эту роль подходят втулки с метрической резьбой внутри и крупной резьбой для дерева снаружи.
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А ещё очевидно что кирзовые сапоги не сильно подходят для игры в футбол гораздо удобнее играть в кроссовках бутсах или кедах
A washer on the back for the thin ply?
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목재나 프라스틱용 너트리벳이 따로있음
목공용으로는 애매하다는 생각이 드는군요. 한번 세게 쪼이면 터저버리니.. 참고되는 좋은 영상입니다
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بارك الله فيك وسلمت يداك 😍
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Nice video. Thank you!
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Rebite na madeira também seria a mesma coisa? E se colocasse uma arruela em cada lado, será que funciona?
Sí, los mismos remaches en madera. También puedes poner arandelas en ambos lados. Aún mejor, si le pones rodamientos. Gracias 😊 Que tengas un buen día 👍🍀👌
Vc poderia fazer o furo para sair do outro lado e prender o parafuso pelo outro lado assim a resistência seria muito maior. pois exerceria a função de aperto muito melhor.
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Concordo com a sua lógica, mas pergunto: qual a vantagem de usar isso no lugar de uma porca com arruela?
If you use these a lot I would recommend lubricating the compression bolt. It will make it last much longer.
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목재용으로 쓰면 안되는거라 안쓰겠지만 궁금하긴 했습니다. 실험 감사합니다.
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Hay quá! Cám ơn đã chia sẻ
cảm ơn. 😄 Chúc một ngày tốt lành 🍀
질문입니다. 제가 아는 나무공방서 레드파인이 단단하다며 그거 쓰던데요. 소프트우드에 속합니까? 인터넷서는 멀바우가 무르다 적혀 있기에 가구 고를때 멀바우 제외하고 레드파인 검색합니다. 오디오 장식장도 멀바우는 쳐다보지도 않았어요.
같은 수종이라고 심재(안쪽)와 변재(바깥쪽)에 따라 다르고 건조율에 따라서도 다를 수 있습니다. 그런데 일반적으로는 레드파인은 소나무 종류라 소프트 우드쪽에 속하고 고무나무 멀바우 호두나무 등은 하드우드에 속합니다. 멀바우나 호두나무도 변재 쪽은 심재에 비해 연합니다. 어느 쪽을 사용하느냐에 따라 달라질 것 같습니다. 일반적으로나 제가 기계로 가공하면서 느끼는 목재의 강도는 삼나무
@@BStarCrafts 답변 감사합니다. 인터넷이라는게 보다 정확한 정보여야 되는데 그렇지 못한 경우도 있습니다. 문외한인 제 경우 그것만으로는 판단이 어렵습니다! 공부가 필요합니다!
Спасибо за информацию!
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Good test. I'll stick to threaded inserts
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А есть же специальные для дерева с шариком внутри
What about just under sizing the hole and threading directly into the hard wood?
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Great idea, but not sure if it’s better than using threaded inserts. Any thoughts, anyone?
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Под дерево нужны другие заклепочные гайки - чтоб насечки предназначенные для деформации были расположены как можно дальше от прессшайбы, может даже в два ряда - если Вы хотите использовать эту технологию для дерева.
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8mm로 테스트 하신거죠?
네 맞습니다~~^^
Muito bom valeu muito obrigado!!!.
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Круто мы все поняли без слов 😂👍спс за труд.
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@@squirreltech у меня нет перевода 😂
Зачем такие гайки в древесине для этого мебельные забивные давно изобрели
What is Rubber wood?
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우그러지는 부분이 중간쯤에 있는 제품이 있으면 목제용으로 좋을 것 같단 생각이...
네 저도 같은 생각입니다~~👍🤜🤛🍀
For hardwoods you can use a tap & die. No ongoing cost of RivNuts
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음 잘 뽑히지 않는거 같아서 신중히 사용해야 겠네요!!
네 한번 체결 후에는 착탈은 포기해야 될 거 같습니다. 감사합니다 😊😊 좋은 하루 되세요 🍀
I use this nuts with super glue, little bit less hole put glue and press nut with hummer.
They would be great in hand wood. Manufacturer needs to make some for wood alone. Wrinkle deeper
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Try torquing them down to expand but not all the way they rip the wood away to nothing
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Es la primer vez q lo veo, lamentablemente acá en Bogotá, Colombia no lo importan. Así como otros tipos de tuercas las armado entre paneles, módulos, bases etc.
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Как всегда здОрово 👍👍👍🥰🇷🇺
Спасибо costa mac 🇷🇺😊 Хорошего дня 🍀
Show de informação !!!!!!
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Sobre madera. Con un arandela de cada lados. Queda muy firme..
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목공에 관심있는 일인입니다 너트 만드는 회사에 건의를 하면 안될까요? 주름 부분을 머리에 바짝 붙여서 하지말고 목공용으로 중간쯤에 주름을 만들어 달라고. 그러면 완전 목공용으로 쓸 수 있을 듯합니다~~♡♡
네~ 저도 그런 생각을 했습미다. ^^ 감사합니다 😊😊 좋은 하루 되세요 🍀
어디 사고 수 있습니까? 다이소에 없어요...
인터넷에 팝너트로 검색하면 나올거예요….
알리요
those are not rivets ,,, they are rivinuts ,,, totally different thing.
Where possible the nutsert can be installed behind , with a thro hole in the wood to fasten from the opposite end. Will be more robust.
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Прям капитан-очевидность...
excellent👍
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1 giả lập tuyệt vời 👍👍
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you should try a plus nut for deeper holes
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Para resolver el problema en la madera, tan sencillo como poner una arandela para que la presión la absorba ésta y no se hunda. Así lo hago y me funcilna a la perfección.
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Muito bom.
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Needed different rivet
Onde comprar???
Comprei na Coréia, mas acho que provavelmente será vendido na Amazon também. Pesquisar por rivnut
팝너트?
네 팝너트 맞습니다. 리브너트, 리벳너트라고도ㅠ하고요.
Показывать надо на липе, ели и ольхе, а на дубе и так понятно.
Why this hemorrhoids? There are also special furniture threaded bushings
Guarda che esistono già le bussole in zamak o ottone da applicare nel legno con la filettatura interna metrica.
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Эти заклёпки для метала а не по дереву по дереву есть специальные заклёпки
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Что за бред. Для дерева саморезы есть.
Ese recurso no es para usarse en la madera. Para la madera hay otros que funcionan perfectamente
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