I remember watching these Apaches in the early through late 1980s in Lake Michigan...Grand Haven, Saugatuck, South Haven. Apache has always been the best looking boat on the water, in my opinion. Nothing touches it for straight-up coolness. It's like the Steve McQueen of boats.
@georgemallory797 Жыл бұрын
Agreed! Thanks for your comment and for watching!
@lukebossert Жыл бұрын
I still watch old reruns of the lake Michigan races
@Foxtucky22 күн бұрын
Lots of history and controversy right there. I’ve always loved that boat. Those were the golden years of offshore.
@kemicalx17 Жыл бұрын
Amen.
@Mala-Ipsa-Nova8 ай бұрын
Damn! I love that pure 8-into-1 headers X 3! ❤ I love that sound!❤
@glennoropeza35458 ай бұрын
Please mic the engine compartment on the next run!!!
@Pegleg302 Жыл бұрын
They are 572ci big block Chevys with Hillborn injection. I think they said each one of the 3 engines make 850hp
@puttingwarheadsonforeheads98728 ай бұрын
When it comes to rough Waves Apaches is the goat End of story!
@davidanderson36848 ай бұрын
Nice to see that legend alive and well
@4mula353 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely!!! 🔥🔥🔥💪🏼
@lukebossert Жыл бұрын
@@lukebossert Luke the owner is a lucky guy what a blast from the past ! God speed ben Kramer shame he is still in all these years later
@tylerdiedrich1947 Жыл бұрын
@@tylerdiedrich1947 Well, in reference to "God"---only God Almighty can change the heart of a murderer or ANY MAN. So, hopefully BK has had some time to rethink his life while he's been sitting in prison for all these years for the murder of one of the founding fathers of Offshore type hulls (Don Aronow). I don't wish ill will on any man, but BK is a convicted murder and is sitting in prison for just reasons. So okay, BK won a few races in an Apache when it was born, but it does not make the man a hero or model citizen in the way that you think he is or want to believe he is. If you want to worship BK, then that is your own choice, but posting the words----"God speed Ben Kramer shame he is still in all these years later"---- you should probably expect some push -back and I think your comment is outrageous just to put it out there like it should or will be widely accepted. Like I said before, only God Almighty can truly change the heart of a man IF the man will accept and allow God into his life. That goes for ANY person and I truly have that hope for BK, but for now he must pay the price for his crimes to society and be punished justly for his actions. I hope BK makes the "turn" towards God for his own life and repent just as ANY MAN needs to do prison or not---we ALL fall short. In the mean time, yeah--- those Apaches are some badass boats !!!
@DuneWest8 ай бұрын
My previous post is seen with lines going thru my words, but it is not an attempt to detract what I have sais in my previous statement....I intended and meant every word I typed. It appears there is a flaw in the system.
@DuneWest8 ай бұрын
@@DuneWest I agree only god can judge us and change are hearts ! I wasn’t aware he was convicted for killing Don!
@tylerdiedrich19478 ай бұрын
Apache and Donzi's always my favorite!
@tonychavez2083 Жыл бұрын
You know you have to put Fountain in that group.
@robertlamont9712 Жыл бұрын
What About Cigarette?🤔👍🏻
@musicman36419 ай бұрын
Looks like it’s doing 100mph even when it’s at dock. Great looking machine.
@DumfriesDik8 ай бұрын
Those engines have a unique and beautiful snarl to them
@deksea10 ай бұрын
Yes, they have a high pitched ripping tone and sound to them for sure---could be because of the "Y"-pipes (tailpipes) and maybe the Hilborne velocity stack fuel injection system on the engines. I'm curious to know what kind of compression his engines have as it could also have an effect on the overall sound/tone of the engines. They sound great!
@DuneWest8 ай бұрын
Ilmore engines have the same high pitched fast rumble. Definitely a unique sound!
@brandonthorbahn24058 ай бұрын
This boat is huge! Over 20,000 pounds of mass!
@glennoropeza35458 ай бұрын
Awesome footage! Love that Apache
@hotrodkenny Жыл бұрын
Thank you! Such an awesome boat!!!
@lukebossert Жыл бұрын
Would rather hear the engines than the musuc
@dandeckard26 Жыл бұрын
I could have sworn when Ben and Bob were racing it was a 41’ Apache, not a 47’
@swaggerjacker14828 ай бұрын
What a great old boat...still flying man if she had hull steps keep her up on top.
@joemalski8374 Жыл бұрын
I see my grandfathers name on the side, Bobby Moore
@katiemoore26167 ай бұрын
🔥 🔥 beautiful boat!
@nationalpowerboatassociation Жыл бұрын
One of my favorites!!!
@lukebossert Жыл бұрын
I got to see the 47 ft. Apache crush Haulover Inlet but it is always calm when it comes out.
@ABfromWindsor Жыл бұрын
NIce 😉🤙
@CARYACHTCLEANERHAMBURG8 ай бұрын
Nice little vid! Is Lorne still waiting on scheduling finishing the crack repair?
@rhythminblues8 Жыл бұрын
Yes sir! Testing to make sure no more stress cracks appeared!
@lukebossert Жыл бұрын
She’ll smooth right out with some weight in the bow! 😊
@flynlow4ever Жыл бұрын
This boat definitely runs better under load.
@onoomy Жыл бұрын
Trim
@t4lovers688 Жыл бұрын
Like 500 keys!!
@alexanderleslie4226 Жыл бұрын
Probably running on a quarter of a tank.
@robertlamont9712 Жыл бұрын
more trim down i think will help
@TheSakamura9 ай бұрын
Free Ben!!! 🎉
@agonyacres11 ай бұрын
V-hauls rule the great lakes. Been lucky enough to be out in cats and Vs and Vs just crush the rough stuff
@leadpilled556713 күн бұрын
Love it!!!
@BTMmarineLM Жыл бұрын
🔥🔥🔥
@lukebossert Жыл бұрын
I miss the coke years. 🥺
@Abandoned_Brane2 ай бұрын
Best V Hull of all time need big balls to drive her right.
@alexanderleslie4226 Жыл бұрын
Free Ben Kramer every way till tuesday!!
@alexanderleslie4226 Жыл бұрын
Got that right!!
@alexanderleslie4226 Жыл бұрын
@@alexanderleslie4226 He will be free if and when he pays his debt to society---he's was involved in the murder of Don Aronow, inventor of the Apache hull design---too bad we cannot bring Don A back to life.
@DuneWest8 ай бұрын
Music overlay is brutal
@Zzrdemon663315 күн бұрын
Do you have the complete details on the boat the way it is now? Engines, power, top speed, fuel consumption etc
@buddyfisher9850 Жыл бұрын
Triple engines modified with sterling components that push 750-800 hp with 12:1 compression.
@lukebossert Жыл бұрын
Triple engines modified with sterling components that push 750-800 hp with 12:1 compression.
@lukebossert Жыл бұрын
This boat needs modern power!!
@alexanderleslie4226 Жыл бұрын
I believe it's been repowered with Sterlings.
@signoresantinoburnett1169 Жыл бұрын
@@signoresantinoburnett1169 Two Merc 1850's and she'd be front page new's stepped hull don't mean S if the hulls not really in the water one less engine you could run less ballast in that tomahawk nose and be lighter faster more stable at the same time modern props and outdrives plus the right team it'd compete today.
@alexanderleslie4226 Жыл бұрын
@@signoresantinoburnett1169 From what I've heard, they are still the old N/A engines that has been rebuilt by Sterling. Nothing modern about that. I suppose what would define a modern repower would be a triplet of Merc 860's, Coan two speed transmissions and ASD 8-6's.
@AB-80X Жыл бұрын
Jealousy will get you nowhere in life Skippy
@bbrcummins19842 ай бұрын
@@bbrcummins1984 Neither will a cummins!!
@alexanderleslie42262 ай бұрын
I'll click on anything Apache.
@surfstarcc18 ай бұрын
Cooool factor 💯
@Saltfly Жыл бұрын
For sure!!! 🔥
@lukebossert Жыл бұрын
In the history books
@williamfabiano543 Жыл бұрын
The boat will never be the same again after they cracked the hall
@nickbongiovanni1572 Жыл бұрын
Nope. Old resin bucket.
@AB-80X Жыл бұрын
Put me behind the wheel of that monster and you will come back looking like Wendy Williams.
@ravenandgear582223 күн бұрын
I know it has trips but what power?? There'a 47Fountain in Sweden with trip 1350s running over 130. If this boat had steps it might run 115+/-.
@dieseldog005 ай бұрын
Apaches bring their own music. Not needed on this video. Wanted to hear those trips
@scottalvarez88705 ай бұрын
The music has got to go.
@deathdealer66610011 ай бұрын
I thought the hull was cracked?
@codygleaton4514 Жыл бұрын
It was cracked a couple times in big waves! Repaired now and It was in primer the day we went out, will be painted soon!
@lukebossert Жыл бұрын
2:34 when he got on thr throttles she took offfffff
@robertsloane12686 ай бұрын
It says rigged by Bobby Moore-the Race Rock guy?
@Fleetwoodjohn Жыл бұрын
Offshore racer and greatest throttleman/rigger!
@lukebossert Жыл бұрын
@@lukebossert Don't let Bob hear you say that.
@signoresantinoburnett1169 Жыл бұрын
@@lukebossert I think Johnny over at TNT is more eligible for that kind of praise. And greatest throttleman? Steve Curtis is probably the guy for that to be honest.
@AB-80X Жыл бұрын
@@AB-80X all great racers!
@lukebossert Жыл бұрын
Thats my grandfather. bobby moore. one of the greatest!
@katiemoore26167 ай бұрын
Nice how’s Ben doing did the feds free him good guy
@GogittaEntertainment Жыл бұрын
What? That is gibberish.
@AB-80X Жыл бұрын
@@AB-80X”nice. How’s Ben doing? Did the feds free him? Good guy.”
@aperson775410 ай бұрын
bow is too high...more trim down and will runs better
@TheSakamura9 ай бұрын
Ben Kramer, besides being a drug dealer, murdered Don Aronow the founder of Cigarette. There is not anything special about him or his boat.
I remember watching these Apaches in the early through late 1980s in Lake Michigan...Grand Haven, Saugatuck, South Haven. Apache has always been the best looking boat on the water, in my opinion. Nothing touches it for straight-up coolness. It's like the Steve McQueen of boats.
Agreed! Thanks for your comment and for watching!
I still watch old reruns of the lake Michigan races
Lots of history and controversy right there. I’ve always loved that boat. Those were the golden years of offshore.
Amen.
Damn! I love that pure 8-into-1 headers X 3! ❤ I love that sound!❤
Please mic the engine compartment on the next run!!!
They are 572ci big block Chevys with Hillborn injection. I think they said each one of the 3 engines make 850hp
When it comes to rough Waves Apaches is the goat End of story!
Nice to see that legend alive and well
Absolutely!!! 🔥🔥🔥💪🏼
@@lukebossert Luke the owner is a lucky guy what a blast from the past ! God speed ben Kramer shame he is still in all these years later
@@tylerdiedrich1947 Well, in reference to "God"---only God Almighty can change the heart of a murderer or ANY MAN. So, hopefully BK has had some time to rethink his life while he's been sitting in prison for all these years for the murder of one of the founding fathers of Offshore type hulls (Don Aronow). I don't wish ill will on any man, but BK is a convicted murder and is sitting in prison for just reasons. So okay, BK won a few races in an Apache when it was born, but it does not make the man a hero or model citizen in the way that you think he is or want to believe he is. If you want to worship BK, then that is your own choice, but posting the words----"God speed Ben Kramer shame he is still in all these years later"---- you should probably expect some push -back and I think your comment is outrageous just to put it out there like it should or will be widely accepted. Like I said before, only God Almighty can truly change the heart of a man IF the man will accept and allow God into his life. That goes for ANY person and I truly have that hope for BK, but for now he must pay the price for his crimes to society and be punished justly for his actions. I hope BK makes the "turn" towards God for his own life and repent just as ANY MAN needs to do prison or not---we ALL fall short. In the mean time, yeah--- those Apaches are some badass boats !!!
My previous post is seen with lines going thru my words, but it is not an attempt to detract what I have sais in my previous statement....I intended and meant every word I typed. It appears there is a flaw in the system.
@@DuneWest I agree only god can judge us and change are hearts ! I wasn’t aware he was convicted for killing Don!
Apache and Donzi's always my favorite!
You know you have to put Fountain in that group.
What About Cigarette?🤔👍🏻
Looks like it’s doing 100mph even when it’s at dock. Great looking machine.
Those engines have a unique and beautiful snarl to them
Yes, they have a high pitched ripping tone and sound to them for sure---could be because of the "Y"-pipes (tailpipes) and maybe the Hilborne velocity stack fuel injection system on the engines. I'm curious to know what kind of compression his engines have as it could also have an effect on the overall sound/tone of the engines. They sound great!
Ilmore engines have the same high pitched fast rumble. Definitely a unique sound!
This boat is huge! Over 20,000 pounds of mass!
Awesome footage! Love that Apache
Thank you! Such an awesome boat!!!
Would rather hear the engines than the musuc
I could have sworn when Ben and Bob were racing it was a 41’ Apache, not a 47’
What a great old boat...still flying man if she had hull steps keep her up on top.
I see my grandfathers name on the side, Bobby Moore
🔥 🔥 beautiful boat!
One of my favorites!!!
I got to see the 47 ft. Apache crush Haulover Inlet but it is always calm when it comes out.
NIce 😉🤙
Nice little vid! Is Lorne still waiting on scheduling finishing the crack repair?
Yes sir! Testing to make sure no more stress cracks appeared!
She’ll smooth right out with some weight in the bow! 😊
This boat definitely runs better under load.
Trim
Like 500 keys!!
Probably running on a quarter of a tank.
more trim down i think will help
Free Ben!!! 🎉
V-hauls rule the great lakes. Been lucky enough to be out in cats and Vs and Vs just crush the rough stuff
Love it!!!
🔥🔥🔥
I miss the coke years. 🥺
Best V Hull of all time need big balls to drive her right.
Free Ben Kramer every way till tuesday!!
Got that right!!
@@alexanderleslie4226 He will be free if and when he pays his debt to society---he's was involved in the murder of Don Aronow, inventor of the Apache hull design---too bad we cannot bring Don A back to life.
Music overlay is brutal
Do you have the complete details on the boat the way it is now? Engines, power, top speed, fuel consumption etc
Triple engines modified with sterling components that push 750-800 hp with 12:1 compression.
Triple engines modified with sterling components that push 750-800 hp with 12:1 compression.
This boat needs modern power!!
I believe it's been repowered with Sterlings.
@@signoresantinoburnett1169 Two Merc 1850's and she'd be front page new's stepped hull don't mean S if the hulls not really in the water one less engine you could run less ballast in that tomahawk nose and be lighter faster more stable at the same time modern props and outdrives plus the right team it'd compete today.
@@signoresantinoburnett1169 From what I've heard, they are still the old N/A engines that has been rebuilt by Sterling. Nothing modern about that. I suppose what would define a modern repower would be a triplet of Merc 860's, Coan two speed transmissions and ASD 8-6's.
Jealousy will get you nowhere in life Skippy
@@bbrcummins1984 Neither will a cummins!!
I'll click on anything Apache.
Cooool factor 💯
For sure!!! 🔥
In the history books
The boat will never be the same again after they cracked the hall
Nope. Old resin bucket.
Put me behind the wheel of that monster and you will come back looking like Wendy Williams.
I know it has trips but what power?? There'a 47Fountain in Sweden with trip 1350s running over 130. If this boat had steps it might run 115+/-.
Apaches bring their own music. Not needed on this video. Wanted to hear those trips
The music has got to go.
I thought the hull was cracked?
It was cracked a couple times in big waves! Repaired now and It was in primer the day we went out, will be painted soon!
2:34 when he got on thr throttles she took offfffff
It says rigged by Bobby Moore-the Race Rock guy?
Offshore racer and greatest throttleman/rigger!
@@lukebossert Don't let Bob hear you say that.
@@lukebossert I think Johnny over at TNT is more eligible for that kind of praise. And greatest throttleman? Steve Curtis is probably the guy for that to be honest.
@@AB-80X all great racers!
Thats my grandfather. bobby moore. one of the greatest!
Nice how’s Ben doing did the feds free him good guy
What? That is gibberish.
@@AB-80X”nice. How’s Ben doing? Did the feds free him? Good guy.”
bow is too high...more trim down and will runs better
Ben Kramer, besides being a drug dealer, murdered Don Aronow the founder of Cigarette. There is not anything special about him or his boat.