In this video, I share my thoughts on how Minecraft has changed over the years and how corporate influence has affected the game's charm. As an OG player who started in 2012 on Xbox 360, I have witnessed firsthand the shift towards microtransactions and pay-to-win servers. While these changes may appeal to some players, I feel that Mojang should listen to their older, dedicated players and consider what would make the game enjoyable for us. Remember, this is just my opinion, and I'd love to hear your thoughts in the comments below
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Honestly I'm a beta 1.7.3 enjoyer and will continue developing mods to make sure that interest remains in the old version while recapturing the feel of the old modding scene.
With the Aether alive again and having first played the game on that version, it looks like it will be very enjoyable for those that remember it.
i personally found that returning to 1.7.3 and simply modding it a bit brought that old sense of discovery back
An update with something like the aether would be so good....
I play 1.8 but I'm very glad to hear people are keeping the old versions alive with mods and a loving community.
I'm playing Beta 1.7.3 at this exact moment
the charm in old minecraft is heavily reliant on the fact that it gave more room to the imagination because less was fed to the player. new minecraft is not horrible because it still brings success, but it lacks the lure and the special, almost “indie” charm it carried in its earlier and growing years. old minecraft is something we unfortunately will never have back and it will never be replicated because it was of its era. very good video.
This would explain why vertical slabs won’t be added to the game.
I started at XBox 360. I remember playing with my sister. Life was good and simple. But, things happened. I still played on my XBox 360 but then I switched to 1. To this day I have the disk that contains my old world.
@lucasmatthiessen1570 I disagree, I don't see what harm vertical slabs would do, when they would literally act just like slabs but vertically 🤦🏽♂️
The Phantom was a result of poor communication on Jeb's part. He made it sound like the Phantom would be this cool spooky monster in the night which kinda peaked people's interest, but if people had known the upcoming update was for the Ocean, the Deep Dweller mob probably would've been the winner.
It still kinda baffles me that they made a mob that rewards you for cheesing survival by sleeping the night. If anything, it should've been a mob that punishes you for sleeping too much and skipping too many nights. Like some sort of entity that haunts you and triggers the "You can't sleep right now. There are monsters nearby." message until you get defeat it.
chances are, that probably all of those mob options were really bad anyways or even more annoying than the phantom
They could've implemented it in so many other interesting ways but the Phantoms we got are just annoying and punishing and not really interesting at all. I wish they'd just remove them from the game altogether.
I love phantoms ngl. I don't know what makes them annoying. LIke even though I dealt with them in survival, I didn't feel like they were annoying.
People did know the ocean update was coming. That why alot of people didn't want the Deep Dweller as we were already getting new ocean stuff. The other mobs could have been annoying too depending on how they did it. The dweller would drown you, the eater thing would ruin enchantments, blaze boss would have been fire and death lol.
I'll always miss the original Cobblestone texture. It was perfectly fine as it was.
Cmon that texture was darn right ugly compared to what it is today
@@andykod77 to me the old cobblestone texture looks more like what you'd see in an old arcade game or smth like that, so I like it
@@keegster7167 cool
My problem is that they added to many features and made it too overwhelming to go to the newest version after playing 1.12.2 for nearly 6 years, the version I usually play
That’s not the games fault that falls on you for staying behind, the game in all honesty should have almost double the content in it considering the resources they’ve had. Old players like myself have to face the music, the world won’t change just because you can’t accept it’s change.
@@robinking6787no, it is Minecraft’s fault because of how bad it is at teaching the player about the game. Maybe if Minecraft had a better tutorial or way of telling the player stuff then players won’t get overwhelmed so much. Also, it’s not just his problem. It’s a problem for new players as well.
@@lucasmatthiessen1570 that's very true, imagine a blind player trying to go into the nether lmao... they tried to fix that with the ruined portals but honestly i think it simply doesn't elaborates that much
Neuter update and ocebs update were Minecraft-like and well made accept it
@@lucasmatthiessen1570 You have creative mode and thousands of videos being made on these new features and that's not enough?
I can definitely see what the other comments mean in regards to you being "too nostalgic", and as you said, as we grow older, we begin to see our pasts through a rose tinted lens. However, even though it was fueled partially by nostalgia, I can see a lot of sense in your words as the video progresses. I too remember the change of the rose to the poppy, and I love your use of it as a symbol of the simpler times, as well as how upset the change made me. Such a minute detail making me upset, I believe was me just not wanting to let go of a small piece that made up those old memories of mine. And as those details slowly add up over time (rose to poppy, voidfog removed, changed recipes, the recipe book added, farlands replaced, ect..), it pushes the idea that we are no longer allowed to play the thing we used to enjoy. It feels as if the game design itself is attempting to rid us of its foundation. Microsoft wants us to forget the past, so without much resistance, they can shape the future. I like your perspective, as it's one I, and many others resonate with. Keep it up mate.
thank you for your amazing comment also happy new year!
I feel the same way. Tbh I can see why people are like “it’s nostalgia your feeling” but really nostalgia is only a little bit of why I think the older Minecraft is better. I just feel like Minecraft was just been declining a lot recently and looking at the new mobs and their corporate over animated feel is just the last straw for me. I don’t think I will ever enjoy the new versions of Minecraft now.
Nostalgia is just based on warm fuzzy feelings of a vanished past but when someone can articulate reasons why they enjoyed an older version of something more than the newer version using logic and reason then it's probably not just nostalgia but decisive and intentional preferences on their part. I'm tired of the cliche "nostalgia goggles" argument against it when people actually have good reasons for liking the older version.
couldn't have said it better myself@@Strideo1
This is why I play Minecraft Beta and Minecraft 1.0- 1.12. I personally grew up on Minecraft xbox 360 and loved the game. I was really sad when I heard that 4J Studios stopped making updates for the legacy editions. The old textures hits me differently than now's textures.
this comment may be like 9 months old but why stop at 1.12? i thought consoles stopped at 1.13?
Consoles stopped at 1.13 bruh
As a Alpha player I miss the simple days of my quite world, playing with redstone or modding the games for machines, I feel like lots of mods does Minecraft better then the devs.
I came in at 1.16 and you're right, it has lost a lot of charm. It's like people have forgotten why they play, and what actually makes the game fun to play in their attempts to out do every other content creator.
You can really hear, the pain is his voice 🥺😔
i agree with every single thing youve said, youre pretty much phrasing my thougtht for me, you need more ranges my man, more vievs, recognition
old minecraft had its own charm and new minecraft has its own charm. I was speedrunning the game with a friend recently and I noticed just how much more enjoyable it is now. Ruined portals, updated villages, nether biomes, and the dragon fight is way better than it used to be. If Minecraft stayed where it was, the game would have stagnated and died (like it was during 2017-2019). But as an old player I can recognise that the old versions have their own aesthetic which is cool.
Out of all the comments I've read in this video, yours is the most I resonate with. I started playing in 2012 in 1.3.2, and while I absolutely fell in love with the game in that version, it would have struggled to stay relevant or even available if it had not changed. We can always go back and play older versions right? I do that often and I still try and keep up with new versions.
sometimes less is much
i do think modern minecraft textures look too smooth and muddy
This video is great, but I genuinely laughed when he so dramatically mentioned that he wrote the word balls on a sign.
2017 was probably the only time i could actually afford to go to minecon, or at least buy a ticket so i could get a cape they cancelled it, and i never had the opportunity
He is right with the chat system because even jokes can get you ban. I don't play new servers for that reason.
I bet $100 the glow signs and item frames would have happened anyway by using glow berries instead of glow ink sacks, the glow squid is useless, literally
😂
most of my best memories in game constructing forts and exploring with friends and showing off my minecraft builds
and having a surpluses of knowledge from playing java before console came out i would play on my brothers second Minecraft account on another pc and he would venture me around old beta servers
and telling my console friends the new versions coming to console
I remember voting for glowsquid wishing for some hostile/neutral mob that isn't a humanoid (Drowned) because I thought they will mesmerize us and makes it harder to see things and get out of the water like the trailer suggest. I'm disappointed that the glowsquid is a just a squid retextured. and it doesn't even had a bioluminescent. I was oblivious to what Dream done where he rigged the vote, and was shocked about the drama about the glowsquid that happened at the time.
Funny I voted glowsquid by just expecting an squid that glows and thats it (no I didnt did it because of dream, in fact I didnt even knew he was a thing back than) but ya liked the iceologer buuuut considering how much people were hating on the phantom, prefered not be responsible for another tsunami of complains, so went for the squid, cant actively harass you and hey at least would look nice in the new caves (love the glow ink tho) :^
One thing I think the game still has going for it is that it is exactly what you make of it.
Exactly
Been playing Minecraft for an incredibly long time but not as long as you. I completely agree Microsoft sucks and has been a detriment to Minecraft
microsoft updates suck shit from 1.9
i agree, i wish that new minecraft had the same charm as old minecraft, good video btw.
Mojang and Microsoft both need to see this video immediately.
And get what from it?
Be happy cuz it did happend you can always turn back and play old version to take a breach
I aggree with you man, I started to look at Minecraft thanks to a friend back in 2012 It was a shock i felt in love with minecraft bcs i was 8 and the only time i could play it was in my friend house on his ps3 with Minecraft DEMO, i had to wait december 2014 to have the game on my own computer then i lived the best experience ever on Minecraft coming back school and connect to play with my friend on Skype until the 1.9, after i left Minecraft bcs the pvp was less played and people start to leave the community and go to fortnite, but i came back for the 1.13, from 1.14 to now i really feel that the game loss his charm a lot even more with the new texture. Your video make me feel sad and nostalgic about the good time on Minecraft
I played on pocket edition ever since 2013. I enjoy almost all of the updates, though I'm extremely happy that we were spared from the combat changes. I do miss the older days as well but I don't mind the changes as much other than the textures, which I can easily just change.
It’s all about personal preference; and I personally prefer pre-Microsoft Minecraft, even though they’ve been adding some really cool things. Some people will love all of the cool content and things there are to do in Microsoft’s vision of Minecraft, while a lot of people, such as myself, love the nostalgic feeling of peaceful isolation that Java versions 1.8.9 and older radiate.
7:22 okayyyyy, settle down there 😅 Minecraft on the Xbox 360 is nostalgic to me as well, but cmon… really? You can’t possibly mean that.
My problem for Bedrock and Java is, that they kept coming out with updates that had loads of problems and did not want to go back and fix them. Minecraft went down hill and bug as hell in 1.13 and onward. I would be fine with the newer updates if people quit treating mojang like they are still an indi company when they are not. Let's get a major update that just fixes bugs because damn both versions need it.
What is the name of the texture pack you used to make it look like an older version?
Modded minecraft is a good thing, but only temporarly. Yet if they add lots and lots of things to minecraft, it would be weird. The game would have too many things and it would indeed lose its charm. What was only possible years ago only with mods now it is with minecraft vanilla. When you used to play Minecraft on 1.6.4 as an example, there wouldn't be too many blocks, or biomes or anything like that. I don't say that the updates are bad or anything, they are good, but for me it kind of feels as if I was playing a modded minecraft instead of its original form (even more now with that redesigned texture pack). I still love the game, but it certainly doesn't feel the same. I don't know if I could consider myself an OG player, I've been playing since 2012.
That's exactly what I always said, Minecraft now feels like it's permanently modded, and while mods are fun, I don't want that when I play vanilla. I just wish Microsoft went the way of creating official mods you can pick and chose but leave vanilla mostly alone.
imo ever since b1.8, minecraft started to lack focus and identity, it went from a simple survival sandbox to... an rpg, idle, sandbox game with barely anything related to survival other than hardcore mode and as time went on it kept getting worse, mostly recently as they tried to make it more and more into a 'cozy' peaceful-friendly game, which is ironic because minecraft's early years since indef/SURVIVAL_TEST were grounded on an eerie, yet calm vibe, which made minecraft so unique in the first place, so mojang (not microsoft as mojang had been butchering the style since b1.4 now (with the poorly made inclusion of wolves)) by trying to remove that atmosphere to make it more 'friendly' has honestly backfired hard game design-wise minecraft is a nightmare, as said before, the game since b1.8 had no idea what it wanted to be and it just kept getting more and more bloated due to that lack of focus with features that are either useless or completely broken, the game for the longest time had become a jack of all traits yet master of none, from what ive seen and experienced, the reason why so many people like older minecraft versions isnt due to blinded nostalgia, its simply because it had a better atmosphere and game design, something that modern minecraft is too far gone to get it back no matter what mojang tries to do, the only way they can bring minecraft to its golden ages is gonna require a complete overhaul or removal of multiple bloated features, and i doubt they would do such thing, mostly with all the backlash they are getting now, there are SOME good in modern minecraft, the bee in my honest opinion fits right in with alpha animals, as its comically big yet monster-like just like spiders, and has a unique drop just like the alpha animals, squids are in the same boat, mostly recently as their AI isnt terrible and they feel unique, the nether revamp ALMOST feels like an alternative for the overworld with the piglins being a perfect way of doing an NPC that perfectly fits with the game, the enderman is just as iconic as the creeper, and its unique way of attacking is just perfect (even if the end wasnt well made nor needed) and lets not forget the new terrain generation, which is on-par with beta's while having THE BEST officially made cave generation so far, and even the new trail ruins which are exactly what dungeons shouldve been from the start i (and certainly many others here) bash minecraft out of love and passion, we criticize the game due to dubious features or poorly made game designs, we want the best for the game, and its why it is so sad to see the people that make (and created) the game to not understand what made it work in the first place. while they do develop the game, they dont seem to care about it since more than 10 years ago, and that, is truly saddening for us who cared about this franchise for such long time
The problem isnt the game, its the popular content creators milking everything dry and the viewers wishing they were in their shoes instead
Dude I can tell you it’s not really about what you say , but the way you say it. Your voice is so calm , so nostalgic that it made me reminisce about my past and even cry a bit. You got a beautiful way of saying things really keep it up dude!
You described exactly what my thoughts are. I didn't play much after 1.9 came out. I came back to the game in the last few years and tend to play older versions instead of the modern ones. Primarily Beta 1.7.3 and release 1.8.9. It might be my nostalgia speaking, but the game just seemed to have a different atmosphere back then. Great video!
what texture pack are you using? like what specific one?
Dude, I love some of the new additions to minecraft... and I can forgive the sniffer and phantoms... but the rose? That will consistently bother me. For ever and ever. If I have to choose one tiny-small thing to be able to complain about, it's the rose. It falls in line with all the other random things that happen in the game; roses don't grow alone, we can't add sharks cause ppl with kill them, the warden won't have drops cause we don't want you to kill it, pandas will be useless because China would be mad if there were incentives to kill them, and we can't add vertical slabs because that's not what minecraft is. It's BS, to put it bluntly.
While I agree with a lot of your points, I also do think that your later comment about the rose tinted glasses do overshadow some of the good that came out of recent years. I used the old texture pack to see how my new builds stood up to time, and found that it instantly looked far too crowded and hard to look at with the old textures. Some of the colors looked dead and uninspired. However I did find that some textures like the cobblestone was much nicer and more defined. As a bedrock player looking at the Java edition, I can see a lot of the concern especially with how it’s slowly being overtaken with parody. While I personally would like to see my friends on Java finally play on the same version as me, the game should get some polish on old bugs, and really take into consideration the community before doing so
What texture pack did you use for 1.12?
For some reason me and my girlfriend (we live together) playing Beta 1.7.3 together, not multiplayer but, in one world. She's caving dirt and gravel, you know, in caves, I building stuff, and it is nice experience even though she sometimes looses all the stuff she digged. And this Minecraft Experience is somehow still fun enough. I love to play together with her
Hiii, I see a lot of critique on the Phantom for its own mis-management To play WITHOUT the phantom, you can disable it (without cheats) in the "Game Rules" section of creating a new world. I don't like sleeping in Minecraft, nor do I enjoy Phantoms, this has worked for me in the past and present!!!
They should be turned off by default.
i dont think you can turn it off on bedrock? idk i dont play bedrock much anymore besides building in creative
@@maddoxreddish4352No your right
Honestly if there was a version selector as well as a modding API for bedrock edition. Being able to go back to older versions and play mods that make those older versions have something new in it but keep the old feeling of the game.. in the game. Basically i would just like to play mods like BTA on bedrock
i didnt start playing minecraft tell on ps3 before the aqautic update i was so excited for the updaet but after a while minecraft felt dry i eventualy started playing old versions of minecraft and played alpha minecraft for a while and then checked out nsss,Bta,NFC and some other "goldenage" minecraft mods
the glow squid functionality could have been handled by glowstone dust the sniffer could have been handled by some sort of buried treasure chest or fossil the armadillo could have been handled by the turtle the penguin competes for existing functionality, even if it wasnt added in the end the allay was the only mob that had actual unique functionality, but it still had limitations on its use they removed the firefly based on misinformation that it could kill frogs (the post said that they were poisonous, but some species arent, and some frogs arent affected by the poisonous chemicals natural to the firefly) think about that for a second we lost most functionality and mob opportunities because mojang is trying to be PETA they are trying to prevent us from doing things in a game, because some people are stupid and associate anything they see as fact most of the modern updates have been intentionally made bland, shallow, corporate, "safe", and "comfortable for most users"
I am happy to see someone play 1.12.2 without it just being a modpack. I love the update but I will say there are some features in newer minecraft that I like the one being mostly the grindstone and some other stuff thats why I use a mod called future mc
everything was better when i was younger, thats just normal human experience
i started playing on the wiiu which was like at 1.9 [combat update] and yet i find beta 1.7.3 to be the best version of minecraft, i thought people were just meat riding the old versions but its actually alot of fun when you get used to it, try it if you can its really fun
as someone who started in 2013, i also prefer 1.12.2 and think its the best version.
Yo, make more videos like this you will blow up your Chanel
Minecraft still has some charm.
I agree 100%
> mojang and Microsoft are out of touch with their community > community votes for the phantom > the phantoms are proof that mojang and Microsoft are out of touch with their community Make it make sense???
we voted for the phantom because it was the least annoying sounding mob, mojang failed to give us sufficient information
As a new player my self, I think 1.12 is a perfect balance between limits and features.
Sometimes I feel like these videos forget that they're talking about two different games. Remember minecraft is what you make it, you can still have that charm, theres mods, datapacks, resourcepacks out there that change the game that gives you that feeling back and if you want, adds in new things that are along the design philosophy of older versions. I think both versions are different yet fun. Hell I still play both versions actively, only truly negative thing I could see is the missed promises, that sucks, I've learned to lower my expectations though. No one can tell you what you can or can not do.
True
Ngl theres a lot of yapping here. Them changing textures doesn't impact the game that much. In some instances it made it better like for example when they changed netherrack block. I do agree that theyve added so much stuff that it just feels overwhelming. Its like theyve seen the success of modpacks and started to just add a bunch of stuff to the vanilla game. Its not particularly bad but just overwhelming. Also lets not talk about the whole Microsoft migration bs that took place i mean wtf were they thinking? Anyways I personally played less and less when 1.9 came out. Honestly that was the most shocking and devastating version update for me back then. I used to primarily play PvP. I loved the thrill and adrenaline in game modes such as hunger games, bedwars, skywars etc. And while yes servers have kept the 1.8 combat system alive, overall PvP just doesn't seem to be alive anymore as it once was. I miss having to click my mouse as rapidly as possible. I miss the techs that were used. Now they made it noob friendlier. Play passively, get a crit etc. I honestly wonder if todays mc kids even know what soup pvp is 😂
Peak Minecraft is 1.8 Change my mind
Beta 1.7.3 was peak. Cool terrain generation. Fun vibrant colors. No dumb villagers. No annoying hunger mechanic.
@@Strideo1This. The game had a *vision* here... much that came after lacked a cohesive vision, and just did not gel with prior versions.
@@TheMinecraftHype Thanks Maedhros! Sorry about the hand, dude.
I'm also a nostalgic player from the 360 era, but I can still enjoy modern versions for different reasons. All of the gorgeous new decorations, wide variety of mobs, and greater sense of adventure in a larger, grander world make current versions still compelling to me but for different reasons than previous versions. Yes the old game had a charm to it and that's changed to something else over the years, but I don't think that means we should ask Mojang to try and appeal to that specific angle of Minecraft at the expense of experimenting and evolving the game as they have. I think its best to just accept that the game might change to something not as appealing to you, and stick to the version you like best. This is Minecraft after all and you can play it however you want, which includes playing older versions, a privilege few games give us in the current live service era.
Almost somewhat OG Minecraft player joined in update 1.7 and I gotta tell you it was way better back then
For me the problem is the inconsistency the new features just don't fit in the game
When I first played minecraft. It was a version that was very akin to creative. Pc only. I don't remember flying though. But maybe. It was either alpha, or the tail end of it transitioning to beta. I honestly have no idea at this point. I do agree with many points you make in this video. Phantoms, pillagers, I really hate all that crap. It just forces me to play a specific way and always have milk around me. Idk about the account merge. They did mine very early on. The 2nd cape is kind of fun to swap between. I took a really long break from Minecraft. Lost my ability to build well, had to relearn. Completely lost my ability for interiors. But I've pushed through on a new world. I've got about 170 hours. I've been having fun. Leaving and coming back with a fresh pair of eyes has almost completely recaptured those early days of playing. Maybe it could help you? As for Dream. Yes... Let's talk about Dream. The pedophile. He's fallen off. Don't worry about him anymore. He has made some clever plays and clearly had cheated. Not everyone likes him and he doesn't do much now. But yeah pedophile. Don't mention him at all. I can see you really care man. I hope this helps you in some small manner.
This might be unpopular coming from someone who started playing in 2010 or so at the age of 4, but I actually prefer new Minecraft because it has more content. I can sympathize with what this video is talking about, though.
8:40 why exactly did you break that wall just to rebuild it exactly the same
I may have had a storke
But no matter what happens...We always finds a reason to come back...no matter how many times❤
Not to "Urmm actually" but, Console edition (Releasing in 2012) Was based off Beta 1.6.6. Beta 1.8 And release 1.0 where already almost a year old by then. Meant that CE was 1 year behind. Thus why hunger didn't exist. (I grew up with console edition too.) Just wanted to state that. #LegacyBetterThanBedrock
Have you tried Better than Adventure?
About the new textures. When they added them into the game they also added the programmer art so whats the problem?
programmer art doesn't get updates
@@XhoiZhuleku but every block that existed gets the old look and the new ones that get added just come on top. it's both 16 pixels so it fits
@@Kilyien look at the nether
The corporate model has destroyed a lot of the gaming industry across the board. Really grateful for things like betacraft that said
I recently asked myself a question. Why do I play the current versions of Minecraft? And the answer I got, was for the mods. The only reason I play the current version of Minecraft is not for everything the updates brought to the game, but just because the mods I want to play with or tryout are only for specific versions of the game. And I only come to find out that the only thing I really liked from modern minecraft is the ability to switch back-and-forth between survival and creative mode and the keep inventory rule so I don’t have to fear dying and losing my stuff and the no grief mob rule so I don’t have to clean up after creepers. So now just yesterday I decided to start playing the version of Minecraft I first started playing when I first picked up the game back when I was a kid. b1.2_02or1
I don't get how people don't like going to straight to the endgame, getter full netherite armor and an elytra. I like doing that because it lets me focus on building a big base and stuff like that while not worrying about my gear. for me Minecraft is more about building and automation than survival.
As another comment said, Minecraft is what you make out of it at its core, and that's the beauty of it and why it's still relevant.
14:27 what song is this ?
I think that all of the points about Microsoft should not have been included in a video about Minecraft's charm. It feels a bit irrelevant as most of minecrafts charm comes from the actual gameplay. Some of your points about textures are fair but building with just cobble and oak planks has always looked "bad". The only reason it used to look good is because nobody had the knowledge you could make builds much better. The new textures aren't even the only option in the base game, the programer art is still an option. I agree many of your points but alot of what you're describing is missing being a kid. Minecraft has been my favorite game of all time for almost a decade and it's sad to see the community grow to hate Mojang when they're adding more then ever before. Before 1.13 we were happy with relatively small updates where now Mojang can announce and give 2 game changing features over 2 weeks and an update is considered trash to many when it's not exactly what they wanted. I personally think Minecraft is finally feeling like it's self again with 1.20 and 1.21. I can't quite explain it but these 2 updates feel like the next shift like what came after 1.13
I just considered modern mc and old mc 2 different games. I sometimes go back to beta 1.7.3 and yogbox modpack 1.2.3 and i have a great time
Anyone knows the song?
I think a big part of the loss of feel is how the textures have changed. Old textures felt unique, now it’s more detailed and kinda muddled
I tend to play with the old textures They feel so much better to me The new ones don't look that good to me
I think the new textures aren't that great, when I build with them it doesn't look that good, especially since minecraft has low graphics The old textures matched the low graphics making it looks actually good since the textures were a bit more simple and they were kinda unique These new ones don't fit and I don't really like the colors that much
i had a unique experience recently which highlighted to me why minecraft has lost its charm, i was playing on the xbox 360 and was absolutely obsessed, i had a world where i build castles and paths throughout. the charm of the textures and limited block options made it so much more fun for reasons i cant explain. one night i connected the xbox up to the wifi and it began updating minecraft, my world was updated, new blocks, new textures, new mob behaviours, the worst thing was the biome blending. this was a completely different game, i lost intrest, it felt like my creativity was overwhelmed, i just wanted the 3 wood types the simplicity of building, idk the game isnt what it was i now i cant touch that world its been tainted
Hi an OG here that never really moved past minecraft 1.8 that was the time where i stopped playing minecraft with its greatest charms... nowadays im so burned and uninterested with the new stuff in minecraft that. i shit you not my earliest memory of playing minecraft was when i had this shitty notebook with 1 gb of ram and running minecraft in super low render distance, dreading to see herobrine out of no where because of how short my view distance was... it was good and now i just left minecraft as a nostalgic memory of my childhood as now im 23, old minecraft is my childhood and it will be a loving memory for years to come.
every new version i play i use programmer art and another pack to make the new stuff fit programmer art, i even use packs to get the old fog, and songs only from c418 , but i feel the same. after the migration i knew its just gonna go downhill, i kinda enjoy the new features and stuff but i noticed that i just cant stay on minecraft as long as i could before. i just get bored of it after two weeks if we make a new server and switch back to different games. before i could just play my singleplayer world every day 8 hours straight after coming back from school when i was 7. kinda sad to see minecraft get butchered by microsoft. i play a sp world on 1.2.5 and it just feels so much more peaceful, so calm and just better whenever i play it after playing any of the new versions.
the phantom is not nearly as bad as people make it it out to be.
They went after the nostalgia and the community that makes it great. The game was simple enough for new players but now it seems overwhelming. My recommendation to you. Do a how start and enjoy the game as a new player and even build a small discord community of fun players.
here goes a long comment in december, i decided to play older versions of minecraft (classic, alpha and beta) and well, i had fun playing it, cause it was a new experience for me, i wasnt around when classic and alpha came out to actually experience the game. it was fun but i can confirm that minecraft had a lot, but i mean A LOT OF FLAWS. i even played older release versions like 1.2.5-1.5 for example and i still could see the flaws that the game have. one of the main flaws was the terrain generation. the last time that minecraft had good terrain generation before 1.18 was in beta 1.7, after that the game had the most boring worlds ever and it is really frustrating to see that. it became all blend and boring, i couldnt see those beautiful cliffs that i would see in beta and alpha, not even the weird yet interesting floating blocks. it just felt boring but guess what? barely nobody complained about that cause it was a change that happened about 10 years ago actually. i feel like the minecraft community complain too much about nothing sometimes. they say minecraft nowadays is bad but when in reality, it wasnt that "good" to begin with. people seem to create irealistic standards for the game simply because of nostalgia blinding them. sometimes i see people saying that minecraft was better before it was by microsoft when in reality, it really wasnt. Notch wasnt that good of a programmer and the updates would add really simple stuff, sometimes even forgettable. like come on, do people even remember what they added in 1.3 or even 1.4? i highly doubt. Nostalgia is a curse and a bless at the same time honestly. Not to mention that pre microsoft team was really slow at actually improving the game. a lot of incrediblly obvious stuff that we have in minecraft nowadays didnt exist back in update 1.5 or 1.6 for example, lets all remember that notch's team was also slow at patching game breaking glitches and bugs too. For me, minecraft is probably at its peak. there is content for everything that you want. Regular survival series with mindblowing buildings and redstone circuits, pvp stuff for 1.8 and 1.9 combat, history and documentary videos, and even speedrunning, that tries to reach the limits of the game and much, much more. the community is way more diverse now, i feel like minecraft managed to envolve thanks to the community. i do get that the "past" was better but lately ive been trying to learn to stop thinking that way. we always say the past is better without giving any value to the present. being a child was different, our only concern back then was our next day of school, our standards were low which means we could enjoy things more easily. but yeah, i love old and new minecraft, i do believe that mojang and microsoft takes some stupid decisions from here and there but overall, im glad that the game is going to this direction. things change and not everyone will get used to it sadly but overall, good video and its an understandable perspective. thats exactly the way i used to think, but then i noticed that the past was only special because i was a child who didnt care about anything
I still find Minecraft very entertaining. It is a game I'll always come back to. And quite frankly, I think most of this points are baseless. Nostalgia is pulling our noses so we think that Minecraft was better(you acknowledged it in your video), but in reality we grew up. Charm of childhood will never be again. It's time to do other things. With that out of the way, I've got a few things to say about your other points. New Minecraft textures in my opinion are better than they were in the past, it was a work of a bunch of artists, every with their own style trying to work together(undoubtedly it had its charm), but new textures are more consistent and refined. There are few that are worse like cobblestone, which i think is worse but in general they are better. A lot of people are complaining about players getting end game items at the beggining of the playthrough. It's their freedom to do that. Back in the day things like diamonds were much easier to come by but we didn't know that much about the game so it seemed harder. I like playing slow. I would play for like 100 hours in a world before getting to the End. It's your freedom to choose the playstyle. That's what is great about Minecraft. Play however you want. You can go back in versions. You can mod it. Costumize it in any way you want. Minecraft marketplace. I don't have anything to say about it since I play on Java. People really got mad about Microsoft account migration. Many seem to think that this was a move orchestrated by Microsoft, but that is unlikely. Old Mojang database was outdated, with many exploitable flaws in security. They could've made migration easier, but it is what it is. With all that said, I'm still salty about them changing roses to poppies and removing voidfog. I hope I got my points across.
Look at this way at least we don't have Minecraft 2 and 3 I mean if we did I guess they would both differ from the 1st, hence why constantly updating will inevitably change it up ,and yes I'd rather this way rather than having to buy a whole new Minecraft game every year with a different number next to it. Whats stopping people from uninstallung all said updates and going back to how it was?
Programmer art exists in the texture pack options. You can disable phantoms. Minecraft is still a game that lets you play how you choose to play. You can still go back and play very old versions. If you want Minecraft to feel like a modern experience without what Microsoft has done, people have even made mods for that like Better Than Adventure, or ReIndev. One of the things that they have changed that I dislike is the chat reporting, which can be abused. Which can still be avoided if the server owner does some work server side. And bedrock marketplace is a mess, filled with scams.
i much prefer older Minecraft only recently leaned i could go back to older versions on java its nice to have to be able to go back to a version of the game i like plus we will always have the console versions to go back to
im nostalgic for the wiiu edition, which i got in like 2016 [i played a bit of pocket edition a few years before but my mom deleted it off her phone] but i geniually find the older versions more fun, i play beta 1.7.3 most of the time, once and a while ill dust off my wiiu and play and find it more fun than modern minecraft, console editions just have a vibe java nor bedrock can replicate [probably all the visuals you can change on consoles like gamma but idk] it feels alot more "minecrafty" than modern minecraft to me, maybe its that console edition crafting system which is kinda underrated but idk, good video, i dont really get why chat reporting matters so much, it hasnt done anything, atleast at this moment i dont think its caused anything to terrible, seemed like it was probably mandated to be added
I say the same thing about monster hunter franchise with world and people don’t listen. It’s very sadge
I thought hunger was added in 2011, but you said you started in 2012 and hunger wasnt a thing. Maybe not on xbox??
For me it's more like it doesn't have aspects of the game that I like anymore and I know it can do better like I want more weapons more armor more mobs more dimensions and more bosses
I don't know where this general opinion has been coming from. I've been playing since the tail end of Alpha and I feel the same amount of charm today. Old Minecraft certainly had a different vibe (lonely, slightly eerie and very quiet) but I don't find that the charm has diminished.
I get some of the point you make but for me personally the game has just been evolving, it was soo soo barren back then, and I started playing when 1.7.10 released, it got to the point that if I want to play an older version because of a modpack or something of sorts I'll be constantly remined of how ugly the old (hot take I know) textures were and I constantly miss the newer features that were added with time, such as the crossbow, the stone cutter, the water mechanics, and the big one the world height change, as for the mob votes I don't think the problem's in the mobs its the fact that the first one was going to be a game changer, unless the "inferno" won (cause that one would be a nether mob), and the newer ones just divide the community further, I personally voted for the phantom, and the glowsquid, and I love those mobs, but I get why people hate them, that guy dream influenced the glowsquid vote quite a bit (to be honest I didn't even know who the guy was until after the vote ended I just voted because I loved the glowsquid and I thought it would have some type of hypnosis added to it), but one thing's true minecraft has become more corporate, not in the sense of the feel I'd say but more in the way features are added, they prioritize messaging, morality and not affecting the game in a bad way for anyone, and in the process they loose out on fun features and just add blander stuff, why couldn't we have sharks cause they're endangered, why can't we have fireflies because some of them are poisonous, in this sense the game was better back then, cause mojang added what they thought was fun, just look at the creeper, it wouldnt be added in an update nowadays it's too impactfull. p.s. if this is hard to read sorry I think I lost the point I was trying to make somewhere along all that
Nostalgia is not a factor for the analysis of "Minecraft loosing his charm". I'm 32 years old and i started playing on 1.14.4, so nostalgia whatsoever has nothing to do with me. Last week i finally give it a try to beta 1.7.3 and i got to say that i like that version more. Of course there are a few things that i don't like, but for the most part, the game feels more minimalistic, more open and more coherent. It's better for casual players, better for relaxing with no rush. Better in a sandbox way. Minecraft now has way to many content, it's hard to keep the pace. The gaming industry right now (since more than a decade actually) changed in a bad way, to give the user the sensation that he/she always has to go on a fast pace. Like if you were constantly on a speedrun. Roguelikes follows that rule, rpgs to. Everything has to be fast fast fast, yet saturated with content, so you "don't loose interes". More interes means more profit for greedy companies. That's why all the spinoff games of Minecraft fais, because they want them to be fast fast fast.
17:08 and why apples can drop from birch and other trees. Yeah I don't like new Minecraft trying to "have sense" while this.
I both agree and disagree with this video. (Note that I am a newer player, starting in 1.16 and only playing every once in a while.) Minecraft is less simple than it was before, but I do not necessarily think that is a bad thing. They both have their charm in their old ways. There’s more to explore in new Minecraft, but old Minecraft is nostalgic. I definitely don’t think that the game itself has become “soulless”. It’s just . . . different and not in a bad way (terrible mob votes aside, of course). But I do think that outside the base game, Microsoft has made some changes that I would consider real [redacted] moves (trying to avoid getting my comment disappeared by KZhead’s terrible comment filter). One example is requiring all players to move to a Microsoft account. Especially now, where if I recall correctly, they are going to start deleting old Mojang accounts altogether; I think that is a disgusting corporatism. Another example is the microtractions of Bedrock Edition because Microsoft is making money off of that. If it all went to the developers of the map/add-on/etc., I don’t think I would be as annoyed with them. I’m glad that, at least on Java Edition, one can still access the older versions of Minecraft because even though I don’t play old Minecraft, I still think that it is good to have for history, and because there are a lot of people who just prefer the old versions. It would be nice if such a thing were possible on Bedrock Edition. PS. I think I disagree with you on the old textures. The cobblestone texture feels very sharp and it kinda hurts to look at. Same with the old netherack texture. Personally, I like the new flatter textures. Even so, I’m glad that they still offer the old programmer art for those that want it.
try the better than adventure mod for beta 1.7.3
Or indev+ or re-indev mods
The version that has a special place in my heart is 1.6.4, though I started a bit earlier, and never really went past 1.12.2. Then, I no longer have a the game because Microsoft robbed me of it -- in a way its tempting to re-buy it, but I'm not sure I will -- if I start it up its more for a bit of cozy nostalgia, going back to my old farms and tunnels, and I'm not sure I want to pay for the occasional nostalgic visit to my old worlds.
You had like 2 years to re-change, I did it lioke in 15 minutes, blame is on your side buddy :v
6:02 - If new textures made you feel uncomfortable, they made me super-pissed off once they released them in 1.14, and by super-pissed - I mean it, Ive spent 3-4 years making not just a resourcepack that takes EVERYTHING into account (textures, sounds, texts, you name it), but also whole god damn MODPACKS that are so, SO dedicated to original styles and aspects that you cannot make a step any bigger than in version they're dedicated to, which is 1.12.2. This version, just on itself, is the final border of what Minecraft is before screwing off into RPG shenanigans, but the mods that were made for it - DRASTICALLY reinforces that border, we talking about several mods that only exists for this version that makes seemingly little changes, but changes that impacts strongly. Even though Modern Minecraft still can be modified to be interesting despite being RPG-themed (which is still good considering different styles in different versions), overall - its just sad if not horrible, because knowing what Notch did during late 2010-2011 - It feels like he actually found that medium where the whole meaning of the game is utilized the ways it supposed to: Freedom, strong atmosphere/details, simplicity, sharp yet also simple environment, and nowadays - its super diluted, less rewarding, less impressing game that also takes alot of processing power just to even launch it, some of players even COMPLETELY unable to play latest versions, or seriously relying on performance mods, so if you have a low-end computer and you have no experience with mods - you are doomed unless you switch to older versions (where something like even Beta 1.8 takes less than 500 mb of RAM for everything, FOR EVERYTHING).
Bruh why didn’t you get the Coal at 10:16 😭
Or, an alternative. Hunger Strike + Better Combat + Golden Days Resource Pack. Hunger Strike essentially removes hunger from the game, making eating less redundant overall and rewarding players for avoiding damage just like the old days (you can still stack food though). Better Combat makes melee combat more fun by allowing you to hold and spam your swings as opposed to just waiting for it to cool down. You can also dual wield in place of the offhand and this mod is compatible with most weapon mods. Golden Days is like the resource pack you're using in version 1.12.2 in the video, for newer versions. It brings back classic textures as well as making newer modern features look more faithful to classic.
I would rather choose other classic styled textures Golden days just replace the cobblestone, grass and leaves texture It lacks most of the old textures
I’ll admit the game just doesn’t feel like it used to anymore. In older Minecraft I feel right at home but in newer updates I just feel like a fish out of water. I think a big part of that is that many of us just aren’t kids anymore. People don’t like change and I guess we thought Minecraft would always be the same, and while fundamentally it is, it has changed a lot over the years.
i started playing back on the wiiu but i find beta 1.7.3 to be the funnest version, so its not just nostgia bc im more nostalgic for the time between 1.9-1.13, there is something more minecrafty about the older editions, its not just the rose tented classes