This can do it ALL!!!! - Keychron K4 V2 Wireless Mechanical Keyboard
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James: “68 > 72”
Exactly!
It's difficult lookin this fly clearly.
Yup, I was confused about that.
yeah I had to rewind a check, hes not so smart
Not crazy. Thought I heard that wrong
If you keep adding 10$ more, eventually you' can buy anything that's for sale
Tbf fully speced is 99$ and you get tonshit of features which you can't even find for double that price. Plus they have a slim version which is pretty much a unique offering
Lmao
@@C22Raptor **a few years later** and for $10 more you can buy IBM just to create more IBM keyboards
@@yookojo7538 **a few decades later** and for $10 more you can monopolize the whole world's governments and own every keyboard on earth
@@infernus6278 slim keyboards are A+. have the logitech version myself
4:07 *holds a switch* “this Gateron keycap” *pain*
3:44 "I guess they [probably Keychron] went with Linus' favorites and gave us Browns." *suffering*
I honestly struggle to watch any LTT keyboard content anymore
@@harryyyyyyyyyyy7273 To an extent, yeah. I still love LTT as a whole, but their keyboard reviews and unboxings are just not up there. Hamaji Neo review this keyboard pls
@@spxctreofficial Ye I like em as a whole, and in terms of what they are good at, they are really good at it, but keyboards jus dont seem to be it for them. But it is defo what HN is good at and yes plz review the keyboard Hamaji. And he also reviews watches now.
@@harryyyyyyyyyyy7273 Definitely.
Thank you guys, for continuing to review 100+ key options. The market is super saturated with 60% and 75% boards, and it has become very difficult to find a nice full size variant for those of us who actually need a tenkey for a daily driver.
funny enough this one was actually 96...
60 and 65 maybe. Pretty limited in 75. Unless you mean TKL
This is the superior keyboard format and thank god manufacturers are finally taking notice.
@@vovical yeah, as a programmer I absolutely love 75% because the numpad is useless. But the options are super limited, I'm still stuck with my k2v2. Especially in my country, it's seemingly difficult to get a hands on 75% options where everything is smushed together allowing minimal wrist travel (my friends don't seem to get that this is ideal for programming, being able to reach all the keys without moving your arms.. Also for RTS like Starcraft 2 it feels godlike being able to reach the function keys while holding control with the ball of your pinky finger).
@@sloppyprogrammer4373 I wish to use a small keyboard, but is impossible for 3D modelling and rendering ): I have the option to get one numpad separately, but I dont like how it looks
I know how this guy feels. Never a gift for dad....until this year for me...my son bought me Tarkov. Edit: to those wondering, I built a PC for my 12yr old (and me, dont tell him) with help from my 20yr old son. My oldest son said to me "what game do you want I will get it for xmas for you"
Is it fun?
@@Ikxi i recently bought it and even though it has a learning curve i like it
Nice one Paul...
Bruh tarkov is the best title
opachki
"She is a stiff boi." -James 2021
thought of that as well lol
Welcome to Thailand!
"No deck flex" That's not what I heard at first..
Kratos approves. Boi.
@@Dyloniuss i laughed more than I should
Years ago I was looking for a keyboard with this layout for months and all I could find was a very expensive kit you had to special order and build yourself. I am glad that more people can get these now, hopefully they appreciate the additional mouse space they get without losing the numpad. I noticed that I didn't actually need one, and with the limited options back then, ended up with a Drevo Gramr. Very good value, but I do kind of wish this was for sale back then.
I got a K4 from them around the middle of last year. Very easy to use with my different devices and battery lasts like 5-6 days of 12+hours use with backlights on. This was my first hotswappable keyboard, however, and I ended up taking unscrewing the assembly my first time around to make sure I wasn't pulling too hard when swapping.
Aaaawww James deserves some dad gifts
Im sure he has his own money and can buy himself whatever gadgets and stuff he wants
im pretty sure they get to keep the things they unbox on shortcircuit
@@user-le4bx1jw3f Almost never. Even if LTT gets to keep something James doesn't personally get to take it.
You should hear what he has to say about his kid 😆 🤣 😂
@@Lord_Humungus yeah, but that isn't the same thing as getting something as a gift.
“I am a dad. So nobody got me anything for Christmas” i am deeply sorry...
@Martin Teran not even one gift. How could they
@Martin Teran hell yeah I've got a CV1 and it's still working like a champ. Pavlov VR is by far my favorite game
....i got underwear...
That's cuz you get that on Father's day
i love giving kids diabetes
"She is a stiff boy" -james.
When I heard him say that I was like: Surely someone already made fun of him for saying that.
@Owen Hill genderfluid
Astolfo intensifies
Got their K1V4 low profile keyboard and love it. I just love how the keycaps are so reflective than expected, the RGB really shines.
The reason for the different tilde key is probably because the charging port is located there.
Yes. Easy solution for those who buy 5 pin switches is to just cut the plastic stability legs off one single key. That's what I did when I switched the crystal jades
"If you ever see people with painted nails that have a featured nail...." Max
Penn Jillette from Penn and Teller paints one nail.
My Keychron K4 V2 just arrived and so far I am loving it
I have a few of the Keychrons myself, great keyboards. ONLY issue is they stopped making the all black versions and are now going strictly retro inspired for their flat keys. And at the time, flat keycaps were nearly impossible to find since only a couple of mechanical keyboard companies were making those kinds of keyboards.
"its kind like 60%, but with numpad" yeah, and with F keys its 96% literally says on the box
Yeh... the scriptwriter for this wasn't the brightest mind out there.
Well you can’t really expect lmg to get anything right when it’s related to keyboards
I think he means in overall size. It is noticeably smaller than a traditional keyboard that has a LOT of wasted space.
@@brycetech3670 or get anything right at all
I think the purpose of this channel is not to have scripts
I see ShortCircuit more than I see my friends these days
Wow you have friends?
@@Derpington9821 wow you don’t have friends?
At least u have some...
I see copy and paste comment more than i see my friends these days
Damn. Lucky. You got friends dude
Have the v4 of the K1 and love it. Have a dual boot machine that I can easily swap between when needed. Been looking at getting a "normal" sized keyboard on my own for the office and debating on the K4. One thing I love about the K1 is that it has indicator lights above the numpad that show what mode you are in and whether Numlock or Capslock is on.
I got my dad a car for Christmas one year a model car, but I was still very proud, and he kept it on display lmao
I have the K8 version of this and I love it, especially since it's the only affordable mechanical keyboard that is ISO, Hot-swappable, RGB AND Aluminium (with wireless as a bonus), for a pretty nice price. Hotswap makes it easy to mod too if you wanna get into more custom mechs (like me)
1:24 penguin spotted! 😛
I actually got one of these last Christmas, the combo of being as compact as a tenkeyless while having a numpad, with hotswappable switches, with rgb (though not programmable sadly), no obnoxious branding anywhere, with both wired and multi device bluetooth functionality, and that nice clean gray and black design makes it a really nice package That said, finding full keycap sets of good quality or obscure designs is a nightmare
Great timing, I have been eyeing this keyboard for a while
I've got the K2 which is the 60% version of this keyboard. I absolutely love it since it's so small. Key spacing is tighter than I'm used to but it's not really an issue. It's nice and comfortable and the RGB lighting is surprisingly nice looking.
Finally, Keychron getting some love!! The K2 Aluminum RGB version is also nice!
@KingInTheNorth probably, next time. I don’t have the money to afford a custom keyboard that I like yet.
I have the low-profile version (the K1) and can definitely attest to the quality and functionality of the keyboard! Adjustable settings and lighting built into the keyboard, Bluetooth and wired capabilities, and compatibility with Windows and MacOS. The keyboard is very comfortable and the switches are what you would expect. Keycaps are concave and smooth to the touch. Best of all the price is extremely competitive ranging from $60-100 depending on your model and configuration.
don't get bamboozled by the aluminum frame option, btw-it isn't a full aluminum case; it's still the same old plastic case from the other models, just with four pieces of aluminum around the sides. You can take them off by removing two torx screws on the left and the right and then sliding the front and back pieces off.
Wish I didn't read this but I'm glad I know now for when I get another one
So are they just cosmetic, not structural?
@@woobilicious. The full plastic has pretty bad flex, the alu frame removed that. The board just feels a whole lot more solid with it.
@@woobilicious. The aluminium made the keyboard more rigid and has less flex. And if you remove the aluminium, it's basically the non aluminium version
Still pretty stable though, it showed no flex in the video so I'm fine
The sound of disgust in James' voice when he mentions MX Browns lol
@@mikeycrackson noob question, why do people hate browns? Is it because of mx or the brown switch regardless of brand?
@@Scofaa Because brows are just scratchy reds...
@@Scofaa there are 2 main reasons, 1 is its a Glarses meme, but more importantly, 2, MX Browns are a sad excuse for a tactile switch. Almost no tactile bump, but enough tactile bump to make it not smooth. They don't really know what they wanna be. Its not really brand or class based, Gateron yellows are pretty great switches and MX Reds are pretty great switches for example. MX Browns just hit a sweet spot of suck, lol
@@SamuraiHuey the k4 isn't sold with cherry switches
I have MX browns and I wouldn't want it any other way. Slightly clicky without being annoying.
Thank you James for finally doing a Keychron keyboard review! I absolutely love my K2 Keychron for my Mac and going to buy the K4 v2 very soon!
Does the number lock really not work on Mac like is mentioned in the video? If so, how do you use the keypad?
@@Tugennov I don’t have this model keyboard since my is a K2 version 1 with soldered key switches. I also did not get the aluminum body and went with the plastic (I don’t mind and it’s been really great). Been looking at the K8 hot swappable version but I am holding it off because of the supply chain issue and backlog at the Port of Los Angeles/ Long Beach, California.
@@darkpepsi Thank for getting back to me. Cheers.
I have this keyboard with browns and an aluminum frame. I absolutely love it. Had the 60% once upon a time but vastly prefer this version (closer to full size) for my daily use.
I've had the K4 for a good little while now and I've loved everything about it. I'm glad it's getting some recognition
ts not too high for you?
Hey guys, great video. Quick feedback: I'd like to see you start including in your videos on keyboards mentions of available layouts. Because for a lot of international or multilingual users products like this that check almost all of the boxes are still not an option because they don't sell their layout. You have enough of a market influence to start pushing for some change in the industry and give international dealers other options over the usual available suspects like razer, corsair,... And by layout I mean more than just QWERTY vs ASERTY, etc. There are multiple versions of QWERTY featuring language specific characters and symbols.
This!
I live in Sweden and have used US-layout-keycaps for years, as I found a keycap set that was blank on top and had the characters on the bottom sides, kind of like they come standard on the QuickFire Stealth. And honestly, it's no big deal. It might be a little bit weird at first if you don't know the layout by heart but if you just get used to it it's fine.
I mostly wouldn't even mind using my local keyboard setup with an ANSI keyboard, but ANSI simply has one key less then ISO which is annoying because for my German layout, what's missing is... . Which is important for your web dev haha
for mac users this is generally a non issue since a long press on each individual key will give you its special characters to pick from on a menu. I've been wishing Microsoft would implement something like that on Windows for years now, seriously.
"I'm a dad, so nobody got me anything for Christmas" Truth has been spoken. :D
I have the low profile version and it is amazing. The typing experience is amazing, the lighting is amazing, the BT connection is GOOD and the batterylife is amazing
Thanks! I was waiting for this
I feel like he is probably one of the best dads ever.
“Probably”
They make a like 60% one but with arrow keys too.
when you do keyboard reviews and showcases, could you show a more standard 108-key layout to see a size comparison? I understand that the keycaps themselves are roughly a standard size but I would like to see how this keyboard's size compares to a normal one
I’ve got a K4 V1 for work about 6 months ago, I love it
been using this K4 but in the version 1 for a while and it's so awesome. freaking love it.
Love the 1800 layout. Actually had a K4. Keyword here is "had". It's okay, and if you're big on the wireless aspects, it's solid. Same for the Mac support. I had the aluminium case, full RGB, version, with Gateron browns. There are much better options. The main problem is the complete lack of QMK support, or really, programability. Outside of that shortfall, the stock keycaps are bad. The whole thing has a cheaper feel to it. Biggest plus here, is the price. You get a lot for the price. It is Mac centric. Keycaps out of the box are Mac; though you get Windows keys in the box. If you're a Linux person, you're going to have problems; it has issues with bluetooth in Linux, and even with just a USB connection. The Melody 96 is a much better keyboard, with full QMK support, can be had in a hotswap configuration, or a solder configuration. It will cost you more, but you get the same form factor, you build it with your switches and keycaps, and the aluminium case is solid, heavy, and available in several colours. Overall it is a much better keyboard. If you don't mind spending a little more, the Drop Shift, from Massdrop, is the same layout, a little larger, and a superior keyboard in every way. The only downside here is that neither of these is bluetooth. Personally don't need bluetooth, so that is not an issue for me. On a budget, the K4 is a good choice as a gateway to mech boards in the 1800 layout. I sold my K4 after light usage, to a young fella looking to get his first mech board. He was thrilled to get a full mechanical board with full RGB backlighting, and hotswap sockets.
Thank you! It's tough finding fully-featured keyboard options for Linux, especially one with a dial.
I wish there were more keyboard layouts for this.
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I got the 10-keyless version and love it! Bluetooth is great for when I need to switch from work and personal PC.
I LOVE IT! I have the V1 of this and love IT, and glad to see the company is always working to improve themselves and for such a good price. So is this going to be your new daily keyboard James?
I really appreciate how Keychron has been continuously improving their keyboards, though the one of theirs that I prefer is the K1, which is a low-profile tenkeyless design that is intentionally designed with Mac systems in mind. I had K1 (2nd-generation, I think) for a while, though the key switches on that were way too sensitive. Last year, I replaced that with a 4th-gen K1, which I've been quite happy with. I use it with a MacBook rather than relying on the laptop's built-in keyboard.
laptops keyboards are never good. ever. they should just make laptops into tablets, with a standardized keyboard attachment port to do the hinge movement. I wouldn't care if each weren't the same size. You don't need them to be.
mine just arrived. love it!
Bought the k2 back in September as my first mechanical keyboard. Love the quick Mac and Windows switch.
These are my thoughts for this keyboard. Read it if you're considering to buy it or not. I'll keep it short and i'll reply to questions I am able to answer: - You'll more than likely need a wrist rest for this keyboard. The body is really high without being in an elevated position and even higher when it has been elevated. So if you don't have one, cosider one. - The keycaps feel a little cheap, but are definitely serviceable. As said in the video, the font is thin but they do work fairly well - There are no extra keycaps you can buy for this keyboard from Keychron that will fit all the keys for this keyboard - I have been using the keyboard wired almost exclusively and the latency isn't noticeable. It works pretty well - Keys feel great and they are a little smoother than the MX Browns - The keys work great on MacOS and, while I haven't used it on Windows, I don't think you'd have a problem. - The orange is VERY noticeable. It's like a signature thing of the keyboard but for whatever reason, it REALLY stands out. Perhaps it's because it is the ONLY other color to distinguish it. - There are 3 levels of elevation: flat, semi-raised, and fully-raised I have used the first version of this and I can compare them: - The key colors are different, the 2nd version is better than the 1st version - The key caps on the 2nd version are a little sharper than the 1st version and honestly a little "cheaper" feeling - The 1st version had 3 indicator lights on the top right, right above the numpad to indicate the connection status, the charging status, and something else (I never paid attention to that one, it never lit up, I think it was bluetooth). That charging light would be bright green and while a little distracting, it gave a good indication on whether or not it was connected. - The first version did feel a little bit heavier than the second version, but that may be false because I didn't have both keyboards at the same time.
is the body height the same on both the first and the second version? I didn't buy the first one because i read about the crazy height, but I was wondering if the new one is improved at all, or is the same, really high position as before
@@user-hr9zv1mz5g it's about the same. You will need a wrist rest to use this keyboard
"I am a dad so no one got a gift for Christmas " i can feel that
Louie Anderson did a sketch about that. As a kid he would steal his dad's tools and give them back to him as a Christmas present 🤣.
@@CheapBastard1988 We couldn't do that. Dad lost them before we could steal them. I blame his method of tool organization.
got the K6 for my birthday yesterday! the aluminum frame is removable and thus customizable so i am looking forward to making this little thing my own. highly recommend!!
Really love James reviewing Keyboards! Moar!
Glad to see Keychron getting more exposure lately. Would really love to see a K4 Ultra slim version, though K3's fine for now I guessed.
When you realise christmas is almost a month ago and he is mourning now
I've got the K2 and I've been so happy with it.
For those who care these also come with prelubed stablizers and preclipped stablizers. They also have keyboards starting from around 45USD but they charge 20USD for shipping.
"its like a 60%" - James. LOL!!!!
it's*
This also works in wired mode and has some special key presses to toggle timeout values and things.
3:00 the 3 rgb LEDs working together but with less current through each LED makes them more efficient lm/watt-wise. But the lower forward voltage of red and green LEDs is also a factor
The RGB vs White powers are that a single color LED at, say 9W, would generally always be 9W. A single color on an RGB LED would (generally) be 1/3 of the total listed wattage of the LED and it gets even more varied with different percentages used during color mixing. They're probably just doing an average to find the estimated use case.
I love that there are options out there like this. I don't know if I could ever go back to a non ergonomic keyboard without some kind of mouse built in, myself... Wish there were more ergonomic options for gamers...
Do you consider this an ergonomic keyboard?
why would u need a mouse built in?
After using the keyboard for a couple of weeks now, I have to say it works really well. To have numpad included is very valuable for me and there aren't many layouts. However, the arrow keys (while it's also a must to have them) do not fit as nicely as I thought. For one you have to relearn to touch the right side of numpad 0, because the right arrow key eats into its space. In addition, the up arrow key eats into the space of the right shift, so you have to relearn to hit the right side of it, instead of the left. Overall, I'd wish there was a haptic difference in the arrow key caps, like a different texture or some other signs, because hitting them correctly takes a bit of time and training. The keyboard has locked up two times in Bluetooth mode and which was resolved by turning on/off. Overall, I feel the layout is a compromise, but given that it saves so much space I think it's a good compromise.
Good job , you just convinced me to buy one.
Love this video as its as close to what I've been looking for which was a wireless hot-swap keyboard that has the Numpad I'm sure there are others but this just being easier to find is a god send much obliged
Most True statement ever "I am dad, so nobody got me anything for Christmas"
"It's like a 60%" except, well... different in about every way.
Yeah, it's a "96%", or 75% + numpad. Quite a rare layout, I wish it was the default for all keyboards. Almost all of the keys with less wasted desk space.
its like he doesnt understand about keeb...
You got his point stfu
Yeah, how dare he use common terminology that a lot of not keyboard fans would understand to tell us the keyboard is compact! They know nothing about anything
i have this and its pretty sweet. nice upgrade over the first version as well.
Just received a K3 which has similar updates but much slimmer with hot-swappable optical switches and it’s dope AF
0/10. James kept his shirt on.
Does this reference a certain techlinked video?
@@sietsedegrande213 I wish it was in reference to every techlinked video
Now imagine people wrote this when Sarah was on the video.. imagine the outrage
@@USEC3 that’s because this comment is in good humour and matches the comedy that James frequently displays.
@@USEC3 What @James Orrell said, but also you have to admit that the way society treats men's shirts is not the same as the way they treat women's shirts. Men frequently remove their shirts in public places and it's considered acceptable, but the same scenario is significantly less common for women. Not saying it SHOULD be that way, but it IS that way currently.
For anyone curious: If you want to vastly improve the quality of a Keychron board, buy some nicer switches and some 1/8 inch neoprene foam sheet. Line the foam sheet under the PCB (circuitboard) and around the battery as to not compress the battery. This way, you'll get a much less hollow-sounding board, and hopefully the nicer switches rattle less (or just lube your gaterons). The process should cost $60-70 and an hour or less. If you decide to lube your gaterons, it'll cost you around $20 and a few hours of your time.
I bought a Drevo keyboard and it's hotswappable too!! Love you guys!
ordered this after watching your video. arrived today and i loooove it. just gotta get used to the compact layout :D
Don't forget about the shipping costs when looking at the price!
These keyboards are on Amazon Prime
@@TooFurious4 Right, but they cost more on Amazon if I remember correctly. On the other hand, if you decide to buy it from the official store, the price is cheaper but then there's like a $20 shipping fee, so it's not as cheap as one might think at first.
@@EdgarLee-ig1ue They're like $4 more on Amazon.
I’m confused since when in 68 more than 72?
I got one before Christmas and now I'm on to my first custom keyboard, k4 is just that good
i have a couple of these and im a fan. Theyre really well built.
I'll get you something for Christmas next time
A hot-swap model with rgb backlight for just $99, that is really a good deal.
Very close to GMMK tbh so quite a competition. But Keychron is still better cuz Wireless abilities (doesn't matter to be tbh) but 5pin ability is great
I'd like to add that in the keyboard settings of macOS you can change the bindings of the command, control and alt keys. So even though this does have the option to switch it around, macOS allows you to swap the locations for keyboards where they're different.
This looks like my dream layout/form factor. (Keyboard n00b)
Him: "She is a stiff boy" Me: *She is probably dead* 😂
She is a stiff boi - father salty that he doesn't get Christmas gifts.
Rocking the K8 and I love it
love the background music on this one
Ugh it pains me to hear "Linus' favorite, browns" >Glarses enters the chat
All non MK enthusiast's favorite are browns.........
I mean, I doubt any of them as daily driven Alps or something of the like before, so yeh...
I mean... you just hotswap to navy blues.
"Preference" Silently produces hammer.
I hope that the idea that sandy reds are Gods chosen switch eventually goes away.
"Don't be a sucker who has to plug it in." follows by "First of all i have to plug it in."
I have version one of this keyboard with Gateron Yellows and it's rockin since day one.
I have a K2 and it's fantastic. The 75% layout is perfect.
I love how “deck flex” is a common evaluation of keyboards on ltt but literally doesnt exist on r/mk
wel yeh, because deck flex does not matter that much really, unless you are someone who constantly smashes around their keyboard or uses it to hunt down burglars... in which case you probably don't care enough about your keyboard to care about deck-flex anyways.
@@CarthagoMike I mean, when you have a 1/2 in thick aluminum case for every build...
Yeah my keyboard never leaves my desk, deck flex is an absolute non-issue.
its really not that common for mechanical keyboards, its more for laptops, and for r/mk most of them use custom keebs and those are way more premium to have a deck flex problem. In fact most half-decent mechanical keyboard doesn't have that problem
I love my flexy pom plate tho 😭😭
Imagine not giving your own *dad* a Christmas present…
Imagine being a baby
Imagine being a kid broke and not knowing what your dad likes because he is a workaholic
I literally bought this keyboard the other day. Its pretty sweet for a more compact workspace.
Watching this with the credits music for Return of the Jedi still playin in the background. Epic episode lol
I feel like after the first product I need a mechanical keyboard ( I have one of those membrane keyboard)
It's worth it. But it might be difficult to figure out what you like most. I prefer tactile, but some like linear more. If you usually press the key down entirely, you would probably prefer brown or blue switches
Careful, that's a dangerous rabbit hole.
It really depends. A good dome can be better than a shitty or even mediocre mechanical keyboard. So if you want a true mechanical keyboard, I would make sure to read yourself in on what mechanical is and the different switches and switch-variants there are out there. Because if you don't do the research, it is very easy to buy a $150/€150 mechanical keyboard and then be very disappointed with how it actually feels.
“ *She* is a stiff *BOI* ”-James, less than one month into 2021
What do you know, might be a genderfluid keyboard.
Can't get canceled if you cover both genders
I've had the k4 for a few months now, and I love it!
Which keys you bought gateron red or brown
@@huzaifaijazbaba2395 I went for the browns, I like the subtle tactile bump.
I've had the K2 since the kickstart. Best keyboard I ever had!
"She is a stiff boy". Nice one
This dude is my favourite character in this web series
Oh that's right, Keychron and Andees were the exact same keyboards and someone copied the other, even though they were also priced exactly the same at the time too, and they both had the exact same pairing error in their manuals that they changed after I told them about it. So they do listen to user feedback since I was complaining to Keychron.
Thats perfect keyboard design