Get Surfshark VPN at surfshark.deals/aldas - Enter promo code ALDAS for 85% off and 3 extra months for FREE!
Subscribe to the Channel: / aldasbusiness
_
Follow Me On
Instagram: instagram.com/aldas001/?h...
Twitter: / aldas001
_
What I Use To Make My Videos
Microphone: Rode Procaster Dynamic Broadcast Microphone
Audio Interface: Behringer U-Phoria UMC22
Laptop: MacBook Pro
Camera: Canon M50
Recording Software: Logic Pro X
Editing Software: Final Cut Pro
_
How to Contact Me:
Email: BusinessAldas@gmail.com
Instagram: instagram.com/aldas001/?h...
Twitter: / aldas001
_
Where Do I Get Most of My Formula 1 Pictures From:
RaceFans: www.racefans.net/
__
Thank you for watching, hopefully you enjoyed it and if you did then don’t forget to comment drop a like and subscribe to the channel for more. Il see you in the next one, Aldas.
I like the guy but he had conflicts with every single teammate he ever had, let's stop pretending that that's a coincidence
He didn't with Ricciardo. And let's not act like Fernando wasn't the shittiest teammate Lewis ever had. And Checo was at fault for most of the incidents with Ocon
@@LesGrosPiedsDeDeejay Lewis is just like Ocon. He cant handle being beaten, he has had beef with everyone who has been better than him. Alonso, Button, Rosberg, and now Verstappen. He is just a sore lozer.
@@xenonn7275didn't really see much of that with Russell huh, or maybe that's because he wasn't beaten
@@jamesvowlesbutnotreally Russel will come, just wait.
@@LesGrosPiedsDeDeejay Lewis is same as Alonso. both were shit teammates.
I have no doubt, that Ocon and Gasly are going to make the french revolution seem like a peaceful and civilised debate compared to the catastrophes they’re going to cause fighting each other in the lower midfield
Unless Gasly absolutely washes Ocon like Ricciardo did in Renault.
I mean, we said that about Max vs Charles, and the first half of 2022 was tamer than Hakkinen vs Schumacher.
You mean the reign of terror....
Completely right after the disaster at Australian GP xd
@@antonioprosper7584 Add to that the Hungarian GP lolza
He is a good driver but doesn't know his priorities. I feel like he wanted to beat Fernando bad because he feels he has something to prove. It's okay to be competitive, but on the same circuit your teammate puts up one of the best defensive drives in history of the sport to gift you your first victory, you go and almost crash him into a wall, all the while leaving space open for Hamilton to overtake you both... Doesn't know his prioritites
a) Alonso always tries his best against Lewis b) Alonso is a lewis hater (right from their first season together as teammates) c) If Alonso didn't hold up lewis for as long as he could, he's basically not good enough in his own mind Pretty much the reason for Alonso's defensive driving with the icing on the cake--- made him look like he's a great team player that helped Ocon get his first win. All hail Alonso! What exactly would he gain by letting Lewis through?
Cult LH44 follows me even when Hamilton isn't relevant to the discussion
@@TheM5guy Lewis would have won that race had Alonso not defended so hard. Lewis was significantly faster than everyone else. Regardless of Lewis' and Fernando's relationship. Alonso played a huge role in Ocon's win.
@@TheM5guy even if you were some master mind reader, which you are not, this doesn't matter. The point is one of them was professional enough to respect their teammate and help them out, and the other felt the need to drive him off the track to feel superior (and yet still end up losing the position anyways).
@@96wtfomgfunny you say that when you mentioned Hamilton in your original comment😂
I definitely want a Ocon-Verstappen partnership 2023 edit: didn’t expect this many likes and comments
What are you smoking
@@LordEthan2 nothing, just chaos
@@LordEthan2 we love drama
brilliant
WW3
Having to fight your way to where they are, it must be tricky to turn that off even a little for your teammate. Ocon’s weaknesses are lacking that bit of pure pace that makes him something really special, and getting on with teammates
Gasly will Beat him.
ocon ego : always beat your teammate to prove for his team even if it hurts the team
@@bananna4486 yet he outscored Hulkenberg by 15 points when he stepped in his shoes. Most of Alonso's problems were strategy/pit crew and reliability. Fernando would only be 0.2-0.3 if luck and strategy were better. He was behind Ocon 8.65 to 8.25 in average race finish position.
@@mvd4436 i think max does that more mate, but you might be knew to f1 so
😅😮
He didn't have problem with Daniel in Renault. Maybe it is Daniel's character or simply the fact that Daniel outscored him in the championship by almost double points. I believe if Pierre clearly outscored him from the very beginning we will not witness such behavior. If this doesn't happen then Otmar need to put his foot hard on the issue and give strict orders preventing his drivers to fight each other.
He was close to Wehrlein and they didn't have problems . His gp3 teammates and Fuocco he got along fine on track too
@@timmynicolas8729 Wasn't aware of this mate. I have to admit I don't follow F2, or F3
@@TheodoreAggelopoulos with Wehrlein it was in F1 the rest in european F3 where he won the title and in gp3 where he also won it
@@timmynicolas8729 I had totally no memory of this one. Good to know.
I don't think he got near Daniel to trouble him. Perez and Alonso had problems with Ocon
Fernando might not be the best teammate, but things are mostly political with his Team than with his teammates on track. Whereas for Ocon its always on track; crashing into your teammates or opponents unnecessarily(Max Verstappen crash while lapped) . I think Fernando tried his best to avoid downfall with his team mate this time. Even when Ocon was aggressive in Jeddah, he played it down. But things really got heated when he started having reliability issues one race after another. Because as far as he is concerned, he was losing time unnecessarily fighting with teammate when he has the pace to fight for positions higher in the order; Hungary was one such example. IMO, the fact that the team didn't do much to address his issues (reliability + Ocon defense) made him burst out . Because, this season Ocon never really had the pace in comparison with Fernando if not for the reliability issues
+1
The Max Ocon incident had Max not been a baby and shoved him. I'd say racing incident. 1) Ocon was faster than Max (He was on Sorts, Max was on Mediums) 2) Max regardless if it's a car on the lead lap or lapped doesn't have the right to cut someone's nose off. 3) Do I really think the penalty was justified at Ocon and not Max? Maybe but that would answer Reason 2 4) I do think though in Max's defense Ocon was being too optimistic in the Senna S because, he would've gotten DRS on the run to Turn 4.
+1
Exactly. Alonso will pull over if his teammate is faster. Ocon won’t. Also, Alonso will never focus on just blocking one competitor. That’s all Ocon focused on with Checo and Alonso n
Another problem Ocon will have teaming Gasly is that Gasly is much more charismatic, if any close racing incidents do occur between the two I'm sure more people would take Gasly's side
It's hard to quantify, but with how much the media appreciates Gastly right now, I do have to agree with you. I can only see Ocon being liked (by everyone) if he somehow manages to command and win a single race.
And that's the issue with part of the current F1 fanbase, they won't even try to look at race footage and get to conclusions with it, they will support whoever they feel is more likeable. It sometimes feel more like a reality show than an actual sport.
Australia 2023 agrees with you 🙈
I like his tenacity, you need to have this edge when he came up the way he did and had his seat taken by a lesser driver. Off the track tho he's the nicest guy and always respects his peers, that's most important. Work is work
100%
In that case, I can't wait for him to become teammates with Stroll. That's one guy Ocon should definitely run off the road.
This is the best comment I’ve seen, people want this dude to be nicer to back off a little bit is if they don’t know that your chances in Formula One can disappear like smoke in a second. you must fight as if your life depends on it to be in the sport especially coming from where he comes from
@@mattroyce he could get dropped off easier if he keeps crashing and giving the team such amounts of damage
@@mattroyce it creates a very bad image for himself in general to see him ferociously fighting teammates meanwhile allowing others to whizz past. i understand that he wants to stay in f1 and keep his seat but even with all the defending he does, anyone with an unbiased, sane mind would see that alonso was still better especially in terms of race pace. that is what he should and needs to improve upon. he needed to be convincingly stronger and faster than alonso to appear better but he wasn't. ocon replying with herculean defense against strictly his own teammate does nothing apart from putting the spotlight on how he was comfortably outperformed by alonso in both 2021 and 2022.
He’s a hard teammate, last year both Alonso and Ocon worked as one, whether it’s Hungary or Losail they both worked as one which helped them a lot. That said Ocon has a motocross mindset. In moto when you are literally the provider of your family at such a young age, you almost develop like a parent cause in your mind “ that guy who passed me is taking food off our table”. You’re willing to be more aggressive and your teammate is the first person you wanna beat. A great documentary on it is Ryan Villopoto “ 2 to continued” you can find on KZhead. When you’re racing with that mindset, it’s never enough as Ocon seen in 2019 your opportunities can leave just faster than they’re given.
In a way, you're definitely right about the motocross mindset. Like some motocross pros, Ocon didn't start his career with "f-k you" money unlike 18 of the 20 current drivers (the other being Hamilton, who is one of the most paid now). So, he feels that had he stay in Formula 1, he has to race hard all the time, even teammates. While many have put that against him, Alonso (Ocon's now-former teammate) is kinda the same way; the aggressive driving style and the "my way or the highway" approach. When those two personalities bump into another, 99/100 there will be drama.
@@lorddrac_dontaskmetodance 18 of 20 is definitely false, you have Vettel, Russell, Bottas, Tsunoda, Gasly, Alonso, Ricciardo who all didn't come from wealth or had famous motorsports athletes in their family That being said Ocon did say in a beyond the grid interview that his father sold his old house to finance his early Karting career so there was definitely pressure to perform on Ocon
great insight, thanks mate
@@coin5207 all these guys you listed had richer family than most of us combined mate . Them not being billionaire doens't mean they don't come from wealth
@@timmynicolas8729 Bruh what? Where exactly did you pull this information from, your imagination?? Vettel's father was a carpenter Russell's father was a "small-time business owner dealing in beans and peas" Bottas' father has a small cleaning company, mother was an undertaker Tsunodas father was a race car mechanic Alonso's father was a mechanic working with explosives, mother worked at a department store What exactly about these jobs screams wealth to you? All of these people had sponsorr early on. Ricciardo and Gasly seemed to be more well off than the other's on this list but that's still not "f--- you kind of money" And that's just the 2022 grid. Kimi, (Michael) Schumacher and I'm sure some other legends also came from non-wealthy backgrounds and were supported by sponsors along the way
While I do agree he's not the dream teammate, I also think he is easier to point out as the issue because people don't really relate to him/like him since he's barely involved in social media. Alonso has had issues with a lot of teammates, and while he gets pointed out for that as well, he gets equally defended by his fans something Ocon can't get
I had similar thoughts. One of Alonsos bad traits is how he lets his ego lead, he is willing to go far in self preservation and self realisation. I feel Ocon has a streak of the same trait, and I'm not at all surprised of how their span as teammates went.
Alonso's only issue as teammate was with hamilton. Alonso is friends to this day with fisichella, and guys like massa and trulli have gone on beyond the grid to say they never had any personal problems with fernando. No problems for nelson piquet jr, button or kimi raikkonen or stoffel as well. Felipe was his longest teammate, and the only issue he had was that fernando became the team's centre stage and felipe was sidelined. If that's the case for judging how bad a teammate is, then michael schumacher was a bad teammate to rubens barrichello and lewis hamilton was a bad teammate to valtteri bottas. Fernando has never been a bad teammate. Its just that 2 apex drivers could never survive in the same team for long, like mansell-piquet and senna-prost, so the same thing happened with hamilton-alonso
ocon ego : always beat your teammate to prove for his team even if it hurts the team
Alonso is such a bad teammate that the only victory in F1 Ocon has is thanks to Alonso🤙
Watch him on promo material... Incredibly fake cheerful attitude. Almost Dolores Umbridge-level
Fernando's constant reliability problems could have been a catalyst for ocon's problems in which he would have to carry the team
I do think Otmar is a bigger part of the problem than people think. I think he honestly just reacts too late to these issues and cant do much once theyve spiralled out of his control. Ultimately, I think that perhaps its about time we ask these questions about Otmar.
I like Ocon, I like the story and the work to get to F1 he and the family took. Great driver, pretty stable but I really do sometimes shake my head and see him actively refusing to yield because he has a chip on his shoulder. I think if he just played a bit more of a team game life would be so much easier. What do I know, I dont have millions of dollars or an F1 contract...yet...I am only 34, there is time haha.
You a racing enthusiast?
Ocon’s a decent driver. But it’s not coincidental when the only year he hasn’t had a major team incident was when he had his ass handed to him on a plate. Thing is after a couple years of this Alpine are probably getting fed up (having lost two drivers), Ocon’s coming into his last year, and if Esteban can’t match Gasly while making up with Pierre in the process he’s out imo. Being French and decently quick can only get you so far
Except Ocon will wipe the floor with Gasly next year, mark my words.
Ocon has a contract until 2024 included
@@TheM5guy Na Gasly=Ocon. If Ocon doesn't get rid of his ego, things could get ugly between those two.
Decent driver? Are you on drugs? He's one of the top drivers of the planet, come on now
@@Ale-hh1xz definitely not a championship winning driver
When you have to fight for everything since you started karting, I can understand with him thinking "the only thing I can do is beat the other guy"
Like everybody else. Bullshit argument.
You gotta grow up if you wanna be an F1 champion. He's not a kid anymore. That excuse is lame
He is not a kid anymore... And most of his incidents could have been avoided. He just doesn't know how to do his job
The short answer is: "Yes" The long answer is: "Yes, and a bad second driver AS WELL" When you are not in a top Three team, the teamwork is extremely needed. The guy seems to have a lot of problems with his ego. This year can be his last season.
If you think smashing into your teammate constantly as a positive, then no he's not a bad teammate.
Ocon is a scrappy guy, if he's mean it's because he came up in F1 fighting for his chances. Most relatable driver on the grid and I can forgive/relate to an "attitude problem"
I personally think he is an outstanding driver and does his best with regards to the team. People usually overlook him but he is always consistent
I dont mean to hate at all, but i don't think anything about him is outstanding. He preforms exactly as the car preforms. Which is a great gift and asset to the team, but what qualities do you see in him that set him apart from other drivers? He almost never has stellar drives. He reminds me of lance stroll, does a solid job most of the year, turns up once or twice, but thats it. I think this is what makes people overlook both of them.
@@calvinchesler7604 Nah he's been really good last season. He matched Alonso
@@calvinchesler7604 He is a definitely better driver than stroll. He performs almost all the time but I feel he has always been the second driver to more popular figures. First checo and then alonso, the limelight has always been on them and usually nobody gives a thought to him and most of his performances go unnoticed. Ocon finished ahead of alonso this year but no one notices that.
@@joshflynn2173 Nah, the only way he "matched" Alonso was because Alonso's reliability was atrocious. Race pace he was getting his ass handed to him on a platter, much like how Ricciardo did during his stint in Renault. Ocon is consistent, but he ain't fast.
@@paulbenjamin6597 He only finished ahead of Alonso because Alonso's reliability was a disaster (I think the worst in the grid if I'm not mistaken). Race pace Alonso was beating him consistently.
I kinda understand Ocon. F1 is a sport where half the grid makes it there by being someone else's son, brother or niece. Many of them just have daddy buy them a spot in detriment of someone who actually earned the position. Ocon is a working class guy, his family literally sold their house so they could pay for his young career. Nobody important cares about him, he has to fight for his seat every single year. Proof of that is daddy Stroll buying Racing Point just to kick Ocon out and put Lance in, even though Ocon was twice the driver Lance was. It's not easy to make it to a place that is basically a rich kids' club when you are in there because of merits, not money; especially when you are not the best, just better than the rich kids. The only way to make it is by being relentlessly competitive and proving every single time that you are just so much better. And I say this as an Alonso fan - it's sad how their relationship ended up but I don't want to blame anyone.
The narrative around Ocon being a bad teammate is overblown imo. Yes, Ocon sometimes fights needlessly hard for positions. However, most of the incidents at Force India were caused by Checo. At Alpine, he's paired with Alonso who doesn't have the best track record when it comes to harmonious teammate relationships. 2007 showed us how much he can get rattled when a teammate matches or is faster than him. Ocon definitely should pick his battles more wisely but he's definitely not a 'bad' teammate in any sense.
Mentioning 2007 without mentioning all the shithousery that went down, and pinning it on Alonso from the looks of your comment, is fun to me LMAO
@@96wtfomg and your point is?
You are mentioning a season 15 years ago to prove your point. And you are ignoring all the shit Alonso suffered from McLaren. Someone's forgetting the spygate too? That season means shit. Even if anything was true, it was 15 years ago. Move on
Nice of you to point out Force India wasn't Ocon's fault while blaming 100% of what went on at McLaren in 2007 on Alonso.
Gasly is an emotional guy, but Ocon is a cunning one
I can imagine the pairing of Ocon and Gasly will be basically Ocon vs Verstappen Brazil 2018 on a daily basis.
Alpine is going to be a fabulous Parisian Soap Opera next season!
Honestly this goes both ways. People tend to always like Alonso which leads to them pinning all the blame on Ocon. The reality here is that Alonso can and became pretty notorious for poor teamwork throughout his career, especially when close on points with his teammate, so you can’t pin this to one driver without also recognizing the part that the other driver also played
It's true that Alonso hasn't been the best teammate throughout his career, but I do think he's matured with time
If it had only been Alonso (which would have some pass since he kinda is hard to work with) it would make sense, but he had problems with most if not every teammate he's been with. If one person hates you they might be the problem, if 10 people hate you then you have to start thinking that maybe you are the problem.
In the case with Checo, I don't really see Esteban as the villain one, because as far as I remember, Checo used to be a real toxic teammate as well. He was lucky that Jenson really held himself up for not throwing toxic comments to the media because otherwise, his career would be over before he knew it.
hahahahaha XD McLaren was the toxic there. Checo only was too young and aggressive. Honestly McLaren almost finished with Checo's career.
Pretty sure a McLaren was the problem back then. They were dragging anyone associated with them down Checo, Jenson, Honda, Alonso...
McLaren were definitely the problem then. They were totally clueless and in utter disarray.
@@ilichio was toxic? McLaren are still toxic now favouring Lando from day one over Ricciardo, then they wonder why Danny doesn’t perform for them. Renault tried its drivers equally when Danny was there and he did well. The move to McLaren came too soon in Checo career and he struggled to deal with team in chaos and decline in McLaren with Ron Dennis. They’ll never win another WDC or CWC.
imagine Ocon being teammate with Ocon.. they would murder each other
I nearly agree with every word Marvelously balanced evaluation of up-to-date Esteban's characteristic intra-team relationships
Guys like Ocon are present in literally every sport everywhere. People who know that they will always be average both in skill and placement and instead of trying to improve themselves to change their situation they focus more on trying to fight and be petty towards those who are better than them. Ocon is a classic example of a petty average professional in his profession.
Whilst Ocon definitely crossed the boundaries of how hard you can race your teammate with Alonso, I think most of Alonso's problems with Alpine aren't his fault. Alonso was hoping for a team that was serious about winning the title and Alpine are not willing to address their shortcomings rn. I think what upset Alonso most was the lack of faith Alpine showed in him, be it in Otmar blaming Alonso errors for his lack of points when Alonso blamed reliability issues or Alpine being unwilling to give him a multi-year deal because of his age. It's pretty clear that Alpine preferred Ocon to Alonso which seemed to be due to age and nationality rather than performance.
Can you blame Ocon for having that sort of tenacity? The dude has had to literally earn his way through his entire career. I don't think he'd let all that work slip by becoming a push over.
Not trying to crash with your teammate (that btw has given you your only win by defending you like mad on the track...) isn't "becoming a push over"
@@TheChzoronzon why would a driver try and crash with their team mate would it would have a high chance of meaning a retirement for themself? Lol
@@TheFatSandwhich Have even seen all the footage of Ocon savagely cutting his team mates lines, "lol"? Fat pls
@@TheChzoronzon Oh yes, totally purposely going to crash with my team mate to cost myself and him points..
@@TheFatSandwhich You keep missing the point... you aren't the brightest star of the nightsky, are you? :D
People love to ignore that majoity of the crashes at force India where Perez’s fault, now yes ocon had his moments, Baku especially was just silly. But he and pascal got along pretty well, he and Ricciardo where amazing together, he and latifi and Fuoco all got along really well. Ocon is very aggressive, too aggressive at times, he fights too hard, but blaming it all on him is completely wrong and I have no idea why so many people hate him for it
Because Perez is very popular. So is Alonso actually, despite what his fanbase would have you believe.
Ocon is falling victim to the same thing many passionate artists and athletes do: he's so dedicated to his craft that he doesn't realize when he needs to stop or reign himself in or alternatively, almost worse still, he realizes it but can't stop himself from going on anyways, even at his own expense.
Back when Gasly and Mick where rumored to drive for Alpine, Esteban said in an interview he preferred to have Mick as his teammate. If this is not red flag for the partnership, I don't know what else.
Of course. Ocon's ego will be crushed by Gasly. Mick is an easy choice
@@HibiTeamQueso You say that but both Pierre and Mick struggled this year. With Pierre just having na over all better package of a car and some much higher moments (Baku). Pierre's probably better just due to experience but Mick isnt that far behind. H
@@diegoleonardia5358 Pierre still destroyed Yuki. I think that the Alpha Tauri was just trash this year
Wasn't that way before Gasly was actually rumored ? From memory, he said he'd like Mick as a team mate, but I don't think it was over anyone specifically.
Mick an ocon are really good friends, like they visit each other a lot, so I feel that was more of a helping a friend out
Further evidence that driver pairings need couples therapy 😂
“And, Ricciardo being terrible.” To hear as a Ricciardo fan, this is sad to hear, yet too true to disagree with.
2 French drivers, both race winners, in a French team. Of course it's going to end badly.
What I find funny was at the beginning of last year he was saying how he didn't understand why other drivers said alonso was a bad teammate lmao
The last time Renault/Alpine had 2 french drivers was back in the early 80s with Rene Arnoux and Alain Prost.......which we all know didn't end well even though they had a championship winning car those years
Well aside from the another Red Bull reject (Danii Kvyat) and well Toro Rosso / Alphatauri having either reject or rookies. Gasly has no real idea how good he is. Ocon on the meanwhile has had competitive team mates. Checo, Alonso, Riccardo. Drivers who have either A. Been solidified as F1 material or prospect or B. A champion Do I think it's unfair to compare them? Yes. But, does that really mean Ocon is a bad teammate. Not necessarily, as said. Growing up with not a lot of wealth and being middle class similar to Hamilton. Who grew up in Stevenage (I might've said it wrong) which is 32 miles or roughly 55 km north of London. Gives you a mentality to perform. No doubt. So you can clearly see the frustration, the determination and how easy blood can boil. Yes, it does make his reputation negative but simultaneously. Do you really have a choice to not back down espically coming from humble and unforgiving times? I'm open to other views this isn't being biased to anyone it's trying to out people on both sides of the coin. How one can percieve someone compared to someone else's view.
His attitude and character traits is what makes him a good driver. I hope he never change that
amen amen amen
No he's not! Let's not pretend like Alonso hasn't left a team in shambles before.
Yeah, but Alonso is kind of person with very high expectations from the team that he is in actually
Yes, Ocon is a dogshit teammate. It is undeniable. What do you need, 6 MORE crashes into teammates? More stupid defenses that cost the team points? What excuse can you give that cuck of a driver
He never burnt bridges with any team apart from the ron dennis led mclaren in 2007 that was pushing for hamilton. He left ferrari at the end of 2014 because mattiaci pushed him off.
@@johnlau6749 exactly. Hamilton and verstappen blame the team on the radio as soon as their team messes up pitstop or strategy. Imagine giving an unreliable engine and car for 3 years to them, will they praise the team and say everything is cool? Fernando never blamed mclaren, he blamed the unreliable honda engine that wasted his time, energy and talent. A proven WC champion made to struggle to finish races and struggle to get to points in average backmarker/midfield cars when he could still win races and championships, year after year. That's just downright depressing.
I don't think he is But he does have some patience issues I hope he can work well with Gasly in Alpine
So do I, albeit I just know they will have their scuffles. I hope that they can keep it together enough to actually be a beneficial pairing overall, they don't have to be friends or to always get along on the track they just have to know how not to constantly wreck each other and how to keep their attention on the race as a whole. I know Gasly can do that I haven't seen Ocon do so as much yet hence this video being focused on Ocon and not the pairing as a whole.
They have been issues. Gasly's body language doesn't lie. After Japanese Gp, Gasly turned off the radio and vented about letting Ocon passed by. The team is heatiing up.
He didn't have any conflicts with Ricciardo manly because he was always behind him in races and the rest of his teammates he was was on level terms with them and that's where the conflict occurred
Ocon and Alonso when they work together can do great things. Sad to see the relationship broke down at the end.
More like Alonso working for ocon...
Oh no comments here yet! I m a Pierre Gasly fan, I hope Ocon doesn't get in his way, the guy finally has a car where he can prove himself in 🤞
agreed
Prepare yourself...
I just hope they can avoid causing each other trouble as much as possible, they probably could get alpine to 3rd in the teams championship even if done in a competitive and unhappy manner. I fear that will be difficult to achieve.
I am in the awkward position where I like both drivers in their own ways I like that aggression and tenacity of Ocon and the perseverance and persistence of Gasly, one is a fighter who wont back down and the other is much more textbook and polished but is always looking for improvement.
the truth is he only fights dirty with teammates
Crazy thing about all of this now is if Ocon posts even a picture of his dog on Twitter or Instagram, he'll get called every obscenity in the book.
It’s crazy the hate he gets
that is just not right. Even if someone doesn't like him, no need to treat him like that.
He’s a very dangerous team mate. Yes, he races hard but he has put or almost put other drivers in the wall at some very dangerous points on the track . He has done it to Perez, Alonso Gasley. Also took out Verstappen being a lap down.
im comenting just from a minute in the video, ocon made him self so important to the team, while ruining everything on track, and its not just alonso, he had issues with perez too.
That “control them” bit 👌🏼
If his team mates think like Alonso that they'll come into Alpine and walk all over Ocon then they are in for a rude surprise. He'll keep racing no matter what hype/reputation they have so they better be prepared to race hard.
Unless Alpine make a title winning car both drivers will support each other. People are forgetting that they are already done with fighting, so they will not fight as badly as Rosberg - Hamilton, because Merc pair never fought before and lashed out everything in a title winning car. However if Alpine makes a damn good car, things will spice up, as is the case with any driver pairing. Don't you think Alonso is relentless or Max. It's the basic trait of a F1 driver, so blaming Ocon for that is NOT justified.
The issue is all of Esteban's teammates have been some of the most popular F1 drivers and some of the best on the grid. At Force India, Esteban was only at fault for Baku. However at Hungary, Spa, the team orders at Canada, and Singapore, you can all put those on Checo. But people revise this history to say Ocon was the centre of it. Maybe because majority of fans now didn't watch F1 in 2017/18, or maybe because Checo has become loved ever since Racing Point dropped him, but no one recognizes this. He had no issues with Daniel. And Alonso's toxic fanbase overblow every little incident between Alonso and Ocon to make Ocon the bad guy and it works because they're the bigger fanbase. Sure he can be over aggressive and it's a flaw but he's not a bad teammate. He just drives very hard because that's what he's had to do his entire career, and it's not as if Alonso and Perez are saints
Exactly. Now suddenly Perez and Alonso are saints to their teammates. And that's just wrong. Probably 90% of teammates were glad nando left. That's not a coincidence...
between Ocon and alonso, i think the fault is about 50/50 But we must remember that for ocon, those two years were very important, because your partner is someone who is recognised, and if he did get behind, he ould get classified as a second rate driver, and once that happen, you are done So normal that Ocon did go against Alonso with all he have, everyone in his position would do that.
@@dther6314 yeah. Otherwise he would have been Vandoorne'd... 100%
And an update there getting on fine actually, also I think Alonso has a history of not getting on with anyone including the teams he’s had in the past, and also Perez not as much but he used to be very stubborn until he went to Red Bull
Honestly I don't see it as he's a bad teammate it's more of he's doing exactly his job. As a driver except if you're the designated #2, it's your job to beat the guy in the other side of the garage. He's your main rival even more so than the guys around you in the standing. It's not your job as a driver to be buddy buddy with the guy who's also supposed to be your main rival on track.
Now I really want to see Ocon and verstapen in the same team
Alonso runs into the back of Ocon in Brazil then blames ocon.. I dont blame Ocon for falling out with a guy that behaves like this. Underrated driver at least
Ocon is a very talented driver and we can see that from his results in Force India and Alpine. He is there to win and we can see that he is ready to lead the team forward and he has to have that mentality.
Ocon even drove a couple qualifying laps for Fernando too😂 what a dope!
i do believe gasly is a little better than we think. He was basically wiping the floor with Kvyat and i do rate kvyat higher than Tsunoda. I don't think he will beat ocon in the first year, but it is possible in 2024.
Ocon + Gasly = Recipe for disaster. I don't think this will end well at all.
This is a great video Aldas! Right off the bat, I think there's a vague misconception about what is "a good teammate". Barrichello is a prime example of what "a good teammate" is. Clear #2 driver, here to do everything he can for the #1, and bring consistent points. Yes, good PR is good, and make funny videos together is, I suppose, great for Formula 1 fans, but that's not what being a good teammate is all about. Being a good teammate can also be to share data or letting you teammate go pass you if he's faster. And for that, watching a lot of Ocon's onboards, I can absolutely, 100% tell you that this is the case. His haters will claim Hungary, and it's fair to say that he went too far in his defending against Fernando. That's fine. However, they never mention that the reason Fernando got passed him on lap 44 if I remember correctly, is because the team clearly told him to let him go, which he did. Ocon has always had very tough teammates, well rounded, accomplished and respected drivers. I think for him to stay on the show, which will never be through sponsors or rich backings, he has always had to fight for his spot. People think your teammate should be your friend. But no, your teammate is your 1st ennemy. That's the harsh reality, and there's a very fine margin between having to work with him for the greater good, and fighting him tooth and nails to keep your seat. Look at Tsunoda and Gasly for example. They get along fine, which is what the new wave of Formula 1 fans want. Cool and funny videos. But they touched at Silverstone, and it ended both of their races chances. I think it's a bit more serious that just a harsh defending in Hungary. Yet, nobody says "Tsunoda is a bad teammate", because these two get along really fine, which is, I suppose, all the Formula 1 fan wants. The past two years, data has shown that Alonso and Ocon was the closest pairing of the grid. And of course, being the closest pairing, you are ultimately bound to be close during the race. It's very easy to be a great teammate when you destroy your teammate, not so much when you are very close. And Ocon, who has had to fight with Perez when he was a rookie (by the way, the vast majority of their clashes on track was Perez fault), Ricciardo when he was prime Renault Ricciardo, and Alonso who is probably one of the greatest ever, has always has to have his elbows out in order for him to stay in the show. Now, if you are still reading this, I'd like to remind you a little event that happened in Monaco this year, and who is "a good teammate". Mick crashed. And Ocon got a 5 seconds penalty. After the restart, Alonso drove purposefully slow in order for Ocon not to get 5 seconds clear of Bottas and drop from the points. Of course this event is vastly forgotten, because it was Fernando who was at fault, and since is audience is much wider, it went very much under the radar. But it did happen. Now, just imagine if the roles were reversed. Just imagine the chaos it would have created on Social Media. You wouldn't hear the end of it. Ocon, not having the same audience, is always the culprit, but never the victim, and that's why I'm sick of these people claiming he is supposed to be the worst teammate that has ever existed, because people in general have their own propaganda agenda and would use anything to promote it. Thanks a lot for reading, and great video as always Aldas!
TLDR Ocon is a dogshit teammate, no matter how many paragraphs you type
I think it really is a strong pairing, performance wise. But I can't shake the feeling that they won't live up to their expectations, causing the team to end lower than they "should be". Mainly because of beef that's going to be triggered because of the history they share. But I hope I'm wrong for thinking that. We'll see what this season is going to bring us.
I think its not like he is backstabing everyone or trully hate his team mate. But he has a little too much of an ego. The Fernando or young Seb type of ego. The problem is, he doesnt have Fernando or Seb level of skill.
I think he has Alonso and Seb level of pace, but not quite the control under pace.
Thank you for treating Ocon fairly. Ocon gets so much hate for mistakes he made when he was younger. He has matured but can’t let go of his fighter mentality that allowed him to make it to F1. I hope the new teammates can coexist without too much drama. And I really hope Esteban beats Pierre!
Matured???? Hahahahaha ....
I think both Gasly and Ocon will be level on points next year. Come back to this video, Gasly outscored Ocon by 4 points (62-58)
Gasly will probably outscore Ocon by about 20 points by the end of the season
@@KillZoneHart1 loooooooooool
*- 2017:* Esteban Moron problem with his team mate (Sergio Perez). *- 2018:* Esteban Mojon problem with his team mate (Sergio Perez). *- 2019:* Mercedes Test driver (politicing behind the scenes). *- 2020:* Esteban Mojon got destroyed by his Renault team mate (Daniel Ricciardo), only thing that saved his F1 career was Hulkenberg and Ricciardo leaving Renault. *- 2021:* Esteban Mojon got by his Renault team mate (Fernando Alonso). *- 2022:* Fernando Alonso: "Tell Esteban to defend against Hamilton like a lion" (Esteban starts fighting Alonso).
The article is from Ouest France , Ouest is pronounced exactly as " West " and it means the same thing aswell
Ocon on his own is a decent driver but he's not one to yield if he's dead set on outmatching someone in the sport. I like his tenacity as a person especially given that he's making full use of his 2nd chance in F1, but he needs to choose his battles next year. He can't try to fight everyone.
I have to disagree… I felt Perez was at flat fat more often than Ocon during their spell at Force India together. I think the ‘reputation’ Ocon is being given is harsh.
Brilliant insightful content, great work.
Yep! Great analysis video too mate.
Question should be is alonso bad teammate? Agreed estaben also in same category.. Nobody mentions it because another old GOLDEN BOY
them going hard against each other is justified isnt it? i mean ocon is young and cant be outdone by an old driver and alonso wants to prove he's still got it so he cant be outdone by ocon who is young and not as seasoned
Alonso gave ocon a win by defending against ham and ocon always holds his teammates back by not getting out of the way
I think things will get spicy at Aston Martin with Stroll and Alonso 🔥
Ocon fights for his spots thats the reality. The last time he was on a team he lost his seat basically for no reason. He is someone who is hungry and is eager to prove he can be a number 1 driver, I don't think that should suggest he is a bad teammate. When your mindset is to drive to keep your job and prove yourself he has no reason to yield.
Any driver who is competitive to him in the same team is going to have issues the only time he was fine was Danny Ric who was always way ahead of him on track.
lot of drivers are beasts, once their helmet is on. if esteban is a gentleman outside the car, it only prove its perfect mentality and determination.
Amazing video! A very fair video on Estaban ocon
Fantastic video keep it up your doing amazing job
He's got an ego problem, and its cost Force India and Alpine a lot of points, and I have no doubt it will cost them a lot of points this year
Well Ocons only F1 win was 98% Alonsos work...
I think people forgetting that not every driver needs to be the next Lewis Hamilton or Max Verstappen. Some drivers (Gasly, Ocon) are good mid fielders. F1 needs good mid fielders, F1 will never have all 10 teams fighting for wins or podiums. So drivers like Gasly and Ocon should always stay in a mid field team like Alpine. The new drivers should start in a Williams or similar (like Russell) and if they prove themselves worthy they can get a seat in a top team. If there are decent they can replace an old or an ok driver in a mid field team (like Vettel retiring). If they are beaten badly (in the Williams or similar) by their teammate they should lose their F1 seat.
I feel French guys always fight in F1, saying "I'm right! You're wrong!". One should be wrong but a never ending story.
comapred to the gasly-tsunoda partnership (or parent-child relationship) which is one of the best....
Ocon has really grown on me, I like his style! Never expected that of myself.
You can say it like “West France” for the journal 😉
Like it a lot very good video and for the magazine it's said "west France" and means exactly the same 😊🤙🏾
Sadly still reading Alonso is not a good teammate. The difference is Alonso does not need a teammate. He improve the car more than anyone. He is famous known to had heavy character inside the work. He only wants a competititve car, thats all. The problem is on the teams he has left. They were not able to give him a good car, he told us the reality about the bad cars he has had... thats the reason the teams says Alonso is a bad teammate, everybody wants him but not being at the same level of driver. Ocon should not forget who has given him his first (last) victory on F1... his bad teammate F. Alonso.
Seems every teammate Ocon has had ( DR no history in public anyway) has ended with problems. I'm betting the Gasly pair will end in tears it's just a matter of time.
With Gaslys pace and better mentality, i can see him becoming team leader within a year. I really hope so because that alpine outfit is trash culturally seeing as how some really great drivers bailed from that team, I hope Pierre can change that
Not really surprising he couldn’t get on with Checo due to the amount of times he put Esteban in the wall.
Funny how the guy has had problems with every team mate, he was always "doing all the work" yet most of the time he underperformed compared to those same drivers he downplayed😂😂 Esteban Bocon, lacking in class and performance in equal measures as always
they should get 1 driver teams too
Ocon always reminded me alot of nico rosberg in terms of race and tanacity
"Ouest France" is very easy to pronounce, it's like "West France" :)
I can’t believe I missed the entire season
Fernando helped him win a race it says a lot about Ocon
A year after Alonso gifted him that win 😂
Ocon tried his best as well in Qatar
@@paperplane1471 alonso kept him behind for 8 laps u sure about that
@@espo9505 loool
@@paperplane1471 watch that race properly not sure ur watching the correct race