Piers Morgan Discusses Ben Shapiro Rap With Tom MacDonald, DJ Vlad And Talib Kweli
Following Piers Morgan's interview with Ben Shapiro off the back of his success with anti-hip hop track Facts with rapper Tom MacDonald, Piers Morgan Uncensored is joined by Tom to discuss the furore and backlash the song has received.
Tom tells Piers why he doesn't think the song is cultural appropriation and suggests the hip hop community is 'hypocritical'.
Piers is then joined by DJ Vlad and Talib Kweli to discuss whether Tom and Ben's track is offensive, with Piers pointing out there doesn't seem to be as much outrage over John Legend rewriting the lyrics to 'Baby It's Cold Outside'.
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This guy's reaction is exactly what Tom and Ben are rapping about.
They weren’t rapping about anything
@@timy9197 keep crying, nobody cares.
Yep snowflakes, victims and hypocrites.
@newax_productions2069 keep being a loser
@@timy9197 They were rapping about you. So, go ahead, be nothing, big surprise.
Should have allowed Tom to respond to the criticism.
Totally agree, do not understand why Tom was not a part of the debate.
Because it would have been white supremacy. @@Saerwon
Agreed. I was disappointed Tom wasn't there to say his piece.
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He would of bodied this racist.
Tom was referring to the majority of rap, which is what dominates the billboards, not conscious rap. Talib fails to realize that because of his victim mentality.
OMG, this Guy is approving everything, the song „Facts“ is mentioning. 😂
Tom never blamed his drug addiction on hip hop or any music. This guy is offended for no reason.
In his interview with Ben, Tom implied that he fell into bad habits because he was emulating what's been promoted in culture, but he rose out of that and now is trying to improve the culture to remove bad influences.
jealousy
The black guy is proving Tom’s points 100%.
@@vincentlauria7857 his name is Talib Kweli
I feel like this guy's maybe listen to like six or seven bars of Tom's music and went I know Tom.
Victim mentality is strong on this one.
90% blacks vote democrat bruh, democrats are the party of victimhood 🤣
Facts!! Lmao
Don't get me wrong, I don't agree with everything this guy said but to call his stance victim mentality but not equally criticize Tom McDonald's prejudicial and divisive mentality is pretty hypocritical.
this guy Talib is so ignorant....that he came on the show and through anger, victimhood, racist demeanor....actually proved 80% of the points made in the song "FACTS".
He is just racist black guy who listened corporate media propaganda
Tom has had a lot of hits, with millions of views…this is definitely not the first one. He has never said anything offensive, disrespectful, derogatory, no profanity, nothing that’s out of this world disgusting like a lot of other rap songs. It’s absolutely ridiculous that anyone would ever come forward and say he needs to apologize for something he’s said. He has only spoken the truth but, people can’t handle the real truth. They can’t open their minds to a world in which they’re not the victim anymore. I mean, get your big boy and big girl pants on and actually think outside the box for a change. The world is not always the way you perceive it to be and everything isn’t always about one person, a group of people, and especially not race. Tom says things that people should know, he’s only helping. All I ever see is the people in charge trying their best to hurt us and divide us when we should be coming together to support one another during this extremely tough time in our history. Tom’s saying wake up, look at what they’re doing to us, look at what they’re doing to our country, look at what we’ve been made to believe, look at the lies we’re being told. Tom’s not racist at all, he’s never said anything racist. Rap music does tend to be about things that shouldn’t be promoted. Why does anyone want to promote being a gangbanger, shooting people, doing drugs, and being overly promiscuous? It’s a double standard and it needs to stop. Just put into perspective the fact that, for instance, the song WAP with all of it’s absolutely ridiculous lyrics is okay for everyone to hear on TV, on the radio, and on social media but, there’s an uproar over Tom releasing music about people coming together no matter the race or gender, loving the country he lives in, being patriotic, and standing up to all the crap that ALL OF US (meaning the general population) has been going through. Tom shouldn’t apologize for anything he’s done regarding his music, if you don’t understand what he’s saying or what he means…I feel sorry for you and you need to get your head out of the mud. All you have to do is take Tom’s lyrics and take another mainstream rap song’s lyrics and compare the two. You’ll see a huge difference and you’ll see that what he’s saying isn’t offensive at all. I guess some people just don’t want anyone to expose what’s been going on. I guess some people just want to stay blind. Well, they can stay that way but don’t pick a fight or demand an apology when there’s no reason for either. People just want attention these days and they’ll do anything for it no matter how ridiculous it may make them look. I support Tom, he needs to keep on chugging along and keep making the music that the world needs to hear. The guy and his girlfriend Nova are extremely talented and they deserve praise for going their own way and speaking their minds. All of Tom’s songs have a message and you can’t say that about too many other artists. Most artists put out mind numbing crap…Tom puts out music that resonates with people, that should resonate with all of us.
Perfectly said!
Wait, Talib. 🤦🏼♂️ Most of Tom MacDonald’s music is rap. Of course he’s not dissing all rap.
Tom is not a LIAR, he’s a genius and your pissed because people are listening to him.
He’s NOT a genius. It is clear his music is independently produced. His lyrics have no nuance and are far from clever. His production is poor. His videos are not well constructed. He could be very good eventually but right now he’s not great.
@@tjbes Please don't try to argue that any modern rap has nuance. It did in the 90s during its genesis and through a small number of artists over the years, but it's a shell of its former self.
What?
@@ryankuypers1819you said it ..N.W.A...BEASTIE BOYS...RUN DMC...
He's a racist who is a genius at signaling all the other racists through his music.
I'm black and I love the song, facts don't care about your feelings... period!!! If you're offended by the song, then you're the racist, cos the song ain't racist..... 😎
Facts! 👍
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I do not think it has to do with color. It has to do with woke versus reality.
How authentic
No one listens to tom macdonald and goes "ooh bars" .
"Historical context" is EVERYTHING to ppl like Talib. The ultimate EXCUSE for everything
And...Trump is not mentioned ONE TIME in the song. So, if I disagree with the lyrics of a Taylor Swift song, where are the people who will go on and on about Biden?
people have small minds and nothing else to talk about.. If they get a reaction for one person they'll throw it at everyone.. They all want attention.. to feel important without doing something important
That black racist guy is very triggered
Calling black people racist, IS RACIST! Talib was dropping knowledge and facts while Piers head was spinning. White folks will never admit to their imperialism they profit from greatly and instead wants to blame an artist who's wealth comes from being paid a percent of a percent.
he blocked me on twitter years ago after i said '' you got to admit it, nazi uniforms can be pretty sexy ''
@@user_unknown1488 bad joke.
@@markjwil you had to have been there i guess. give me your personal email and i will send you a zip file pronto
He sees the world through color lenses. Too bad, he just sounds like a boob.
I’m so tired of race talks. People can’t have opinions about music because of their skin colour now? Hypocrisy.
We need to separate America from the world and their bad habits need to stay there including putting race with every discussion
No they can't because BLACKS created the MUSIC America is surfing on period!
Yep people are this are so racist and they don't even see it which scary. They call lack of access into others culture racist but yet they will literally try to deny others into there's and call them racist for doing so. Hypocrisy at the highest levels.
I guess creating the idea of race has backfired, eh? XD😆
@@whattowatch7908race is a social construct now? Haha you’re so progressive
I luv how he wanted to stick to the subject after he takes it off track when he reads from his talking points about everything around the topic at hand
So nobody is going to mention the fact that the Talib dude was reading an essay he wrote rather than generically answer questions. Look at his eyeline (ignore the glasses)
i don't get what's wrong with making notes for an interview he feels strongly about....??
His notes: 1. White people = bad 2. Black people = perfect and blameless 3. Wear glasses so people think you’re an intellectual (it worked for Spike Lee)
This black man is one big racist and it showed throughout this show !!!!
Timestamp?
@@lildony1 😂 Commenter said the whole video...so you want a time stamp of the whole video?
Exactly!!
This black man is part of one most influential hip hop groups. The white lesbian is a shit rapper
100% it's pretty funny to watch them get so mad that their narrative is challenged and that someone speaking out against it gets this much support. He makes it all about race, plus he has all of his facts wrong. He sees what he wants to see and is mad that people as a whole are finally realizing that the world is changing in a direction he doesn't like.
Funny how many racists call other people racist.
Absolutely 😂
Typical lefties, that's all they have while there rasict themselves 🙂
Like ben Shapiro. Gotcha!
@@bigturboweenie oh yeah you sure got me with name dropping someone you don't like.
@@bigturboweenieimagine Jadakiss destroying 50 Cent In A diss record and 50 Cent goes on Piers Morgan and cries about he was offended and demands an apology..In Hip Hop if you got this kind of response from your opponent this is a win for Tom And Ben.. should have made a Diss Record not went to a new station and cried racism 😂😂
I listened to Facts over and over again yet I dnt find any racist slur or any form of racism. But some people are still offended. Now I learnt the saying "You can't make all people happy" 😂
You missed the point.. Facts don't care about your feelings. Why should it make everyone happy? Emotions and facts don't go hand in hand.
Yoh, so many envious rappers showing their jealousy for not being #1 !!! Well done to Tom, I love the song as it tell the truth !!
Talib would be offended by an apple falling from a tree
Yep the racist apples, all white inside.
You should quote that as The Quote Of The Year,Seriously 💯
🤣🤣🤣
Ofcourse man, because white privilege, you know?
Fact
Being the most angry person in the room doesn't win debates.
He lost his voice. He was being interrupted constantly
That's a quotable comment right there Similar to Ricky Gervais: "just because you're offended doesn't mean you're right"
It's called The Way of the Cenk 😂
@@JotbotAI-Octavio doesn't matter he was the most racist man in that room.
I didnt hear one person raise their voice besides piers cutting them off. the fact that you label a black guy speaking passionately and intellectually as him being "angry" tells us everything we need to know about you.
Kweli is a gold medalist in the Victimhood Olympics.
Talib, you REALLY let me down.. used to listen to his music 20+ yrs ago.. him, Mos Def, Tribe Called Quest, GFE, & many more that I considered "conscious rap". Talib is caught up in the woke s*** 🤮 ugh...🤦🏼♀️
Totally im with you.
Talib is constantly with the victim mentality.
Because he has no other talent than being black🤣
Exactly
Talib is trash anyways
How
*mentality
Talib acting the the vast majority of the rap that comes out isn't centered around sex, money, drugs or violence is just disingenuous...
No, Talib understands that the vast majority of rap that is promoted is about sex, money, drugs and violence. Sex sells, so that's what you get. What's not recognized are the hundreds of rap artists who make music about love, family, politics, faith, injustice and so forth
@JH-tc7wb that doesn't detract from the fact that Tom's criticism of cyrrent rap music is valid
@@jonathanb3255 Like Talib mentioned, in the song he didn't make that distinction but in the interview he did. He perpetuated a outsiders perspective of hip hop/rap music. If you take the time to understand the cultures history you will understand like every other popular genre in music like rock for example, they tend to devolve or digress into the mainstream and loose their essence. This is the case for hip hop. There is no denying how destructive the current mainstream hip hop scene is. However, it would be interesting to understand why it is so and if alternatives exist.
HipHop is VAST, it’s just that one type of HipHop gets pushed way more than the other and thus ends up representing HipHop as a whole and this SHOULDNT be the case. I believe that people should do their homework and not take the easy way out. Sort out what you like and what you don’t like.
Yep just listen to the vile crap HISS just put out by Megan Thee Stallion (I'd not heard of her before today) & hope I never have the misfortune to hear her offensive rubbish ever again 🤢🤮
Does Talib have any points that he doesn’t read off his notes?
he's in oppenheimer movies are real mode
47. Black and hispanic from the Bronx NY. Edenwald projects. For every tribe called quest there were 3 mobb deeps. Q tip was apart of the gang Zulu Nation. I was chapter 22. Its always nice to cherry pick.
Tom never mentioned skin color but this guy said white men 3 times in 10 seconds.
Yeah that's allowed tho
Listen to what he’s saying.
God damn is he ignorant: "the vast majority of my people are not rich", could anyone please point out a race or group of people that would contradict that statement made by him?
Yep smh
He was making some good points in defense of rap music, but when he said that 3 white men and 1 black men shouldn't be discussing the supposed evolution of rap he lost me. That's a super racist thing to say.
This clown is exactly what Ben referred to about woke Karens in his comments.
He's so mad cause the Karen's made him say it 😂😂😂
@@randyb8302 Bla bla bla... can you Debunk anything Thalib said... Is he lying??? Idiots like yourselves who follow weasels like Ben Shapiro Boggle my mind, when his voice alone is irritating.
That's the truth
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The irony of Someone this blatantly racist calling other people racist is completely lost on this guy. He carries a full deck of race cards.
These three men and anyone who wants to for that matter, should listen to Jordan Peterson’s analysis of this song. It will give you insight into the meaning and intent of the lyrics and a ton of food for thought.
The guys talking about "white men" do this "white men" do that.. I guess he's not forward thinking enough to understand that if white people were to go back to saying "black men" do this "black men" do that, we'd be right back where we started. And this is the type of rhetoric that could ironically lead us there
I'm an African black man and I support Tom addressing issues that destroy the black community, it's weak to say he's racist
Thank you, man. Some people don't get the difference between speeches you don't like and hate speech and try to consider them the same
Fake u ain't African nothing lmao fake white bot account black ppl don't refer to themselves as African black man... were Americans
we know your white 🤣
THANK YOU for standing up for whats right and to say the least that in itself is a huge UNDERSTATEMENT!
Fake account lol no black person refers to themselves as a African black man 🤣
“I’m not a racist. A lot of my friends are white.” Talib Kweli spouts hypocrisy in every bar.
post the timestamp for this quote. Oh wait you can't.
@Satan-bx4ev Kweli stated that he does a lot of songs with white rappers after Piers checked him on his comment about white people commenting on hip-hop. Kweli is an idiot.
@Satan-bx4ev did you listen to the interview?
@@IVY12023 He did. He probably hears what he wants to.
I'm not racist. My dog 🐕 is black.
Big up Tom. As a conscious hip-hop artist I love Tom. I don’t agree with everything he says, but I’m proud of him for fighting against the woke crap.
Omg that Kweli guy was unhinged 😂
Talib being so mad make me like Toms song even more. Talib is being more racist then everyone else in this discussion combined.
The only racist*
You can’t even complete a fucking sentence. Says it all. Talibs music is better than any of Tom’s music ie. pandering)
@@JotbotAI-Octavioif it pisses off a race grifter like Talib, then I support whatever it is because it's hilarious.
@@JotbotAI-Octavio Talib's latest releases on YT has tens of thousands of views, Tom's got tens of millions. The market seems to disagree.
@@daemon816 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 clearly you're not a HipHop fan with that comment. But you didn't claim to be, so fair enough!
After hearing ur guests I can see why we need more Tom MacDonald. One of them can’t even have an adult conversation because they want to stay a victim. Sad. Tom, please continue ur music .
👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
check out Samson
Samson is indeed really good, he also melts snowflakes.
Amen!!!! FACTS💯‼️
This guy just keeps making his own people look bad.
Rules for thee and not for me 🤦♂️
Ben described as an "unlikely transformation into a rap heavyweight" is so true, and funny...LOL
He spends the whole interview complaining that Tom didn't represent Hip Hop accurately, then at the end says he is special because he doesn't rap about those things. The Dissonance is real.
Great point. He has zero self-awareness, it's been replaced by self-importance.
I was hoping someone else peeped that. Lmao. What a fraud.
1. Tom doesn't represent hiphop. 2. Talib Kwali has been rapping for decades and is not the only rapper that doesn't align with the stereotypes Tom is peddling in his "song". 3. No dissonance just standing up for his craft and calling out right wing BS.
@@jasonwhite6463 1. Tom is counter the Hip Hop culture, so while he doesn't represent Hip Hop, he represents a mold of Hip Hop by being its opposite. 2. This doesn't matter. It doesn't give people permission to be disconnected from what they said 3 mins before. The irony is, he does represent the woke portion of the song. Tom is literally calling out people like Talib Kwali because they are in the same genre, claim to be woke, but won't call out these things. Talib spent the whole interview purposefully not calling it out. So no, this is the exact person Tom is aiming at, and Talib feels it. 3. No, he is fighting back against an attack that is directed at him.
@@jasonwhite64631. You're wrong 2. You have no idea what you're talking about 3. Talib is jealous 4. Your ignorance is blaring.
He literally just said that white people cannot talk about hip hop. He LITERALLY just said that.
This racist 🤡 feels 😂blacks own hip hop 😂😂😂wahh wah😢
I agree but black people can't talk about country or classical music
If you listen to his songs, pay attention to the lyrics, there is a story being told and you can listen to it and decide for yourself if you agree or not. Nice work Tom, I like it, thanks.
If the only way a group of people can get ahead is to demonize, discriminate and try to muffle another group politically and socially it doesn’t make u superior it just makes u woke.
Tom MacDonald has never blamed his past addiction on rap music. If anything his music and message has given him purpose.
To be fair, he actually did. I watched a video he made a couple of days ago, and he said he does what he does because he grew up on "that stuff" and ended up addicted to alcohol, and didn't speak to anyone of write any music for over a year.
@@Chris65k So he has a right to speak that way if it affected him personally.
@@Chris65k True, he started rapping and tried to live the lifestyle portrayed in the music. So yes, that was a major factor in his downward spiral into drugs and alcohol. His choice, but it was what he was surrounded by. Also, all the addictions were from self medicating. He suffers from anxiety and depression, and had a total mental break that last 10 months. He didnt leave his mother's basement ot speak with anyone except her that entire time.
ALL LIVES MATTER. PERIOD.
😂 he knew nothing about history. Absolutely, nothing. If he knew anything about WW2, he would know America wanted nothing to do with the war, until Japan attacked Pearl Harbor. The guy who made the atomic bomb, gave it to us to stop Hitler from him making the same bomb, but his plan was to drop it on multiple continents where he was losing and it ended 6 years of ppl dying all over the world. He would be proud to call himself an American if ppl knew history, the real history and not woke history. Lastly, since mankind has been on earth, every race has been fighting over land and still is. He’s a flipping 🤡 that’s 100% uneducated.
I used to have respect for Talib. Saw him live, not anymore. Massive racist.
he didnt say one racist statement nor has he ever publicly been racist g atop the cap to fit in on youtube comments
@@WLVSTV youtube is for white people so do not comment 🙄 😒 is that racist if you think then what talb sed is also racist
Are you talking about MAGA racist white people?
@@WLVSTVdid we watch the same interview? Pretend he was a white guy and watch it again lol, you guys are unbelivable
@@tedmarley4341so all white people a maga Americans? Oh you generlized white people, you are racist😂
These rappers proved FACTS factual.
Why not have Tom and the others on at the same time so Tom could defend himself?
Tom deserved a chance to speak on being called a racist. That's a pretty awful thing to say about a guy that has no chance at recourse.
He's 110% a culture vulture. The wave he's on now is not the one he started out on....kinda like Kid Rock
Has no chance of recourse? He has nothing but songs about white vs black. He's got a huge platform. Tom McDonald is doing nothing but divide people.
Lmfao! Neither is Taylor Swift. Cry harder. @@CoolHandLukeDuke
I guess Eminem is a culture vulture too then. Lol
He just got new content for the next song lol
I'm sorry, I can't take people like Talib seriously. On a question: "Do you think the state of rap is better now?" His answer is basically: "I don't wanna talk about it with white people anyway, Donald Trump is bad." Like, this is pathetic man.
Now Trump is getting blamed for this. Holy crap, is there anything they won't blame on him!
@jennysmouse5552 I read some comments and there is some spelling and grammar issues, Trumps fault for ruining education.
And he compared Tom Macdonad to Illegal Immigrants, is this guy for real? Tom moved to the USA LEGALLY and is about to become a dual citizen, Trump said "illegal immigration is poisoning the blood of our nation" the Key word ILLEGAL, so he conveniently left out that FACT. He lost all credibility of any other point he were trying to make right there.
@@stevens8744Everything I hear from the TDS crowd only makes sense (in their minds) by framing it in the most vague, low-resolution detail. Pretty much every outrage about something the orange man said is by using an incredibly loose interpretation of the words, or treating it as gospel when the quote is based entirely on "an anonymous source said".
He came on the show knowing he WOULD talk about it , on a TALK SHOW , and he knew that the other 3 people interviewed WOULD be WHITE - yet , he doesn't want to talk about it with white people
I’m a mom and grandma and it’s about time someone hasn’t sold their soul to the devil. Our kids need someone in their world to speak the truth!
Talib and vlad dont even believe what they were saying. Talib didnt even answer what was being asked that is ridiculous to say he could argue violence drugs and sex is not in 95% or rap.
Lmfao that Kalib dude is exactly what Tom and Ben song dedicated to…straight triggered 😂😂😂
he did said if Ben want to offend him he got it 😂
Totally!!! as I listened to him.....I kept thinking of the victimhood, racist, wokeness, anger words the song addresses.
'That Talib dude' proves yiu are new to rap, possibly since KZhead rappers became a thing. Tom Mcdonald is fake, raps for the wrong reasons. Also, I don't believe a word he's ever said. Actually, he's more of a snowflake than a 'controversial' figure that he'd like to think of himself as.
'That Talib dude'. Yeah. OK then. Carry on listening to your KZhead rappers like Tom. What people don't realise, is that Tom is more of a snowflake than controversial. The blokes a complete fraud.
@@MichaelRoberts-ln5iolegit never heard of talib maybe his music is ass
Why didn’t you let Tom debate his detractors? He would have taken them apart.
There's nothing to argue with, just 😭
he scurried off into the night cos he shat his points
You definitely right very smart guy
Who is this Tom? Don't know him
probably because the shitbag on the left refused to debate him.
Majority of Rap doesn't promote thug, ghetto, gangsta etc culture? since when?
Look at him reading, m/f came with a script! LOLLLL
When Kalib was speaking, I could hear Tom’s “You mad, you mad, you mad” lyrics. Facts is 100% spot on and this fool proved it.
Exactly, He just shot himself in the foot
DITTO
Kalib is not the brightest crayon in the Crayola box.
@@betsybabf748 nice pun lol
I Love it when people step right into the trap and are triggered. THAT guy is the racist ....not Tom.
It's too bad you couldn't keep Tom on to speak on his behalf. Tom is not a white supremacist. It's obvious who was racist in that conversation.
And if you listened to the song "Whiteboy" you'd know that
@amydavies2529 AGREE 🎯
You just generated the word “white supremacist” confirmation bias is a hell of a drug. Defending sex crimes and financial crimes and groveling how great Trump is is sad at this point.
@@JotbotAI-Octavio The racist black guy used that term, nobody "generated" it. His black fragility is showing.
There's a reason no one listens to "tom"
My favorite of Toms's is American Flag. AWESOME song! I'm not a huge rap fan, but I've got it on my workout playlist because it's that damn good!
never seen tom so nervous , love you tom , ps. tom been living in america for 10 years+ so he aint just Canadian he just as much american, he got his citizenship x
he wasn't nervous
People are getting tired of the race card every single time 🙄🙄🙄
Tom makes his money on that 🤫🤣
Yup the victim mentality when they have black privilege 😂😂facts don't care about victim mentality
It's time to understand ALL RACES CAN BE RACIST!!
😂 he knew nothing about history. Absolutely, nothing. If he knew anything about WW2, he would know America wanted nothing to do with the war, until Japan attacked Pearl Harbor. The guy who made the atomic bomb, gave it to us to stop Hitler from him making the same bomb, but his plan was to drop it on multiple continents where he was losing and it ended 6 years of ppl dying all over the world. He would be proud to call himself an American if ppl knew history, the real history and not woke history. Lastly, since mankind has been on earth, every race has been fighting over land and still is. He’s a flipping 🤡 that’s 100% uneducated.
“I don’t rap about materialism, misogyny, I’m an exception to the rule”. That just undercut his whole argument 😂
I'm sure most people don't even know who that guy is.
Brilliant 😂😂😂 didn't even notice!
You guys don’t understand the point
He sits with his Gucci and Balenciaga gear on in interviews usually
Yeah, I used to listen to all that Immortal Technique/Common/Brother Ali shit back in the day. I just can't deal with all the "boo-hoo America is racist" crap anymore. @@jacksheridan5916
These guys just made Tom's point and more sales.
Never been a Talib fan but 10] percent agree with him I was saying this same thing before I herd this so true..
I am 100% on Tom McDonald's side
All racists are 100% on his side.
@@ericbogar9665 Sorry about the delay on responding, I was burning a cross and got carried away. Now here's what I meant to say: ur gay.
@@ericbogar9665 talib is racist and obviously NOT a fan of Tom. So you're wrong. How does that make you feel?
Hang on Eric…. Anyone with an IQ higher than 30 is on Tom’s side…..is what Silashen meant to say.
@@ericbogar9665 sorry for the delay in responding. I was burning a cross and lost track of time. Anyways, what I meant to say is: You are loved. You are wonderful and don't let anyone tell you otherwise.
Tom is not a LIAR, he’s a genius and you’re pissed because people are listening to him.
It’s funny that Talib Kweli is considered an intellectual rapper lmao.
Absolutely
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I will keep purchasing Tom's music! Love love love him ❤
lol, the whole two names this guy could provide about a rapper that doesnt talk about bad stuff is garbage. It took me all of two seconds to find songs where drake talks about drugs & guns, & ill bet he has said plenty of demeaning things about women.
Yo! I’m a huge hip hop head and I spit myself, 41 black male from Cleveland OH And I will officially announce that Kweli and Vlad are absolutely Off the mark!! These two are unhinged and bitter and angry. The black community has no beef with Tom or Eminem, or any other white rapper who decides to throw their hat in the arena. we base our opinion off of skill and personality
You guys got a heavy hitter in Akron, mate. Ampichino has been dope since the 90s. Underrated as hell. Loved the stuff he use to do with Jacka (R.I.P.). I'm a pasty white Australian btw. Love hip hop though. From Screwed up click to the grimy boom bap in NY (Griselda are amazing) and the Hyphy out the Bay and Chopper style out the mid west. Such an amazing diverse genre.
I agree with you 100%. Kweli is waayyyy off. I hate to say it but he needs to get off the Dem Kool-Aid! 🤦🏿♂️🤷🏿👎🏿👎🏿👎🏿
you can't speak for the black community if you not pro black
Exactly! In the 90's there was two types of raps: Hip Hop Conscious rap talking about issues in the community and society that needs to change, and Explicit hip hop. Conscious rap does not exist today. 90% of the hip hop today is not speaking about real issues its the explicit rap that has taken over and that's who Tom is talking about. Talib is tripping!
Amen it’s pure victim mentality and talib definitely getting a check from the Democratic Party
Tom is smarter than they are. He controls his own music.
Talib Kweli cames across as confused and bitter. His incoherent rant was asinine and immature. Piers needs to push back harder against these loons. Looks like the trolling worked. Well done Ben and Tom. Keep at it.
Pierce really? Your interviewing Tom, I hope he can get through to you
Tom should have been there to debate the awful things being said about him. You can't call someone racist and not give them a chance to stand up for themselves.
They didn't want Tom on the debate because he would have smoked them. 💯
"Without the idiots we couldn't laugh at them when they fall" Tom watched this and just chuckled at the stupidity. 😂
Agreed 💯
We all saw who the real racists are here, def not Tom and Ben 💯
@piersmorgan
Tom McDonald is from Canada but gave more than 200,000 to wounded veterans, I haven’t seen any American rapper do that. He’s contributing to an awakening whereas our youth would have been strayed into what MOST rap music influences to
Proof links? or just elon musk style profile building.
@@alastairwallace6153 he did raise close to that amount for veterans in US
Crazy Evangelical white people.
It isn't most rap, just most of what the industry promotes, plants, and becomes trending. Talib is too old to see how drastic things have gotten, but he's not wrong from his perspective, which is out of touch with the youth.
The American government doesn't take care of it's veterans yet you expect rappers to?
I think when Tom says, "this ain't rap," it means the content of committing crime is not appropriate for rap, or any genre for that matter.
Thank you Talib for proving Tom and Ben' point.
"kalib"
As a black south african Talib is wrong and so unjustifiable emotional. That song of Mac D and Ben talks about reality.
Your reality
They have motive agenda and when someone’s already biased then yes it brings something that benefits their views and use alternative facts instead of reality.
What reality?
Are you on crack cocaine?
As a South African myself, I can see what American hip hop does to our youth here in our land. Negative effects. Agree
🎉Thank you for this video!!!! YES!!!👏👏👏👏👏
I used to love Hip-Hop because it was a community that wanted to share its unique approach to poetry, and it was inclusive and a movement of unity. Now it decides who gets to say what and how, and won’t admit that it is degrading.
Talib is not just jealous of Tom, but also petty. What a gaslighting fool he is.
Jealous??? Do you know who Takib Kweli is?
Made one album with moss deff way back when and it was okey. Nothing sensational lol.@@charsobishi
Jealousy, A real rapper being jealous of mediocracy? I don't think so
Once you begin a sentence with "as a ______ person I feel offended" I can't take you seriously.
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BINGO!
Correct, super agree
Tom should've been allowed to respond
After listening to this to me it's clear who's more likely to be a racist, and it sure isn't tom or Ben.....
"Three white men and one black man" said by someone who has color on his mind
No he has his culture on his mind n they making false statements about something they don't know about
@@marteza654He's mad that a white guy is doing better at something from "his" culture lmao
@@marteza654 Maybe. Maybe he's mad that he identifies himself with hip-hop culture and feels it's unfairly criticized by people who don't understand it. *_HOWEVER,_* if that's a legitimate justification for his view of MacDonald, it makes him a hypocrite for the way he's attacking so-called ''MAGA country.'' I guarantee you that MacDonald has a 1000x better understanding of hip-hop culture than Talib has of the culture of rural working-class white Americans.
@@TheCynicalAutist "doing better"? Talib been a legend in the genre and has resonated w people across cultures for decades now. aint nobody but red pill rhetoric rejects and bumass ben shapiro stans who dont know shit ab hip hop or music that only care ab being anti-woke and triggering libs bumping tom macdonald's clickbaiting bs
@@marteza654 Wtf is his culture? He’s an American citizen. He’s not living on his own little island. He’s wearing clothes and shoes made in sweatshops overseas, he speaks English (apparently the language of the colonizers), he’s done major record deals with white peoples his entire life and he calls out no one in “his community” for pushing poisonous music.
Wow...as a black woman, that black dude on the panel is one of the reasons people think we're stupid and jump to racism as an excuse for everything. Look at the billboard top 100 and tell me the last time there was an ethical rap song on there. Compare that to the number of songs there are about thugs, hos, cars and money. No one cares about the underground movement - they care about what's popular - because what's popular is a reflection of current culture and a good indication of what's coming up in the near future. The song was not racist - it was a commentary about social issues that are of concern to everyone no matter the colour of your skin.
Whats popular right now is whats going to go out of style. Whats underground right now is whats going to be popular. Heres a list of some artists with plenty of “ethical” songs (the fuck does that even mean though) that have broke the charts that you should listen to. Little Simz Joey bada$$ Kendrick Lamar JID Smino Tyler, the creator Earl Sweatshirt
it doesn't matter if you're black if you're not pro black
Re writing Rap lyrics is ignoring the cultural significance of Rap lyrics and it’s history but tearing down statues due to what they represented 200 years ago is okay? The double standards are off the charts here.
This song goes after wokeness not black rappers specifically and it took 10 minutes of watching this to see all the red flags that Talib is himself part of that woke establishment. First of all, Tom Macdonald should "apologize"? This is exactly the culture were giving the middle finger to. Not only should Tom not apologise, he should double down! Saying NO to the group whos clearly willing to offend others while trying tell US whats appropriate is exactly whats needed right now. On that point, Talib clearly said that there shouldnt be a rap debate with 3 white people and one black guy, which actually throws DJ Vlad under the bus despite the fact that he agrees with Talib. This is what i mean about the woke left not caring in the slightest whether or not something is offensive. They just dont want anybody to offend THEM or peoole who think like them. Also, white people generally understand that most rap artists are black. Thats been true since the birth of modern rap although not everywhere. Either way, Rap is already reguarly debated in circles where a majority are black. Thats incredibly common. So the fact that he said what he did because he just happens to be in a conversation about rap with three white guys, one who wasn't even present to defend himself, says more about Talib than anyone else on the panel. And like I said, this song is about wokism more broadly. To quote Ben Shapiro in the song... "My comments section, all woke karens" If anything those who are white and woke are even more ridiculous and deserving of the middle finger. The movement we're referencing should be scrutinized and exposed for what it is, thats the bottom line, and its because they are what they claim they hate. They'll shut you down forcefully when given the opportunity and then complain about how you're the problem, the racist, or the "threat to democracy" to use their new bumper sticker slogan.
All these hip hop clowns just mad because Tom and Ben speaking truth. Yet the establishment lets garbage like "WAP", go uncensored, yet "Facts" is lyrically inappropriate haha Yet another joke from mainstream.
Ben said Rap is crap and then does a hip hop track, such hypocrisy and clout chasing from ben
@@eleri7024 dude, it's a joke. He's making fun of himself
Tom doesn't speak the truth. He's a conspiracy theorist and racist that is in far left field with the other Trump supporters.
@@eleri7024 The vast majority of rap IS crap. And for them to do a rap song shoving in wokies' faces is brilliant.
@@eleri7024and Ben is a mature enough adult to admit when he is wrong about something and embrace something he once stood against because he didn't fully understand it
The scary thing is that this rapper actually believes all the racist propaganda he’s spewing.
Conveniently he rather 'believes' that because he didn't succeed, I never heard of him so I did a quick research because Piers called him part of the hip hop establishment? Thank God there's no such thing in music, but anyways Piers Morgan is good at picking who brings some controversy more than anything else! Talib Kweli for what I saw had a positive massage That wasn't embraced much by black people And his blaming Whites ..
I grew up tp Talib and I loved his tape with him and Hi-Tek called Reflection Eternal, but here I fully disagree with completely. He is talking utter nonsense. Being defensive when there is nothing to defend. Turning Hip Hop or Rap into some left movement. I lost all respect for him, in fact always had my differences about him, today it cements it. The music I will keep playing but the person am not a fan of. It is like my greatest musician of all time R Kelly what Robert has been sentenced for one should be angered about what they say he did, but that won't make me stop playing his music as R Kelly
Talib is owned by his recording label. If they say jump, he says how high. Apparently they don't like it when true talent doesn't contractually sign with and they start their campaign of slander to discredit the artist. Talib was more than likely ordered to defame Tom and threatened that if he doesn't comply, his producers won't let him record. I think a lot of CO. Talib mind and thoughts belong to whoever is paying him$$$$.
When has Tom ever once blamed rap for his addiction issues? That's a straight lie. He said and says that it's a bad influence on kids and people because it GLORIFIES that lifestyle!
Which supported him into the path he took...it really isn't hard to understand.
sometimes it’s glorified, but more often than not it’s just a brutally honest telling of a person’s life experiences. many rappers who struggle with addiction write lyrics about being trapped in that cycle, and how much suffering it can bring. that allows anyone else who has had that experience to relate to the music. just like many gangster rappers back in the day weren’t glorifying violence, they were telling violent stories from their own lives. the violence was a byproduct of their upbringing and surroundings. and yet other people in those circumstances could relate to the music. they also saw how it was for someone to make it out of that life, Biggie always rapped about how he used to be caught in the cycle of violence but rap was a way out for him, and a way to provide for his daughter and his mother. Biggie often celebrated no longer having to be involved in violence in his music. but most of the violent lyrics were again often referring to the violence as something they wished they could escape. you did have a lot of young people misunderstanding that message and associating violence with being cool, just like today you have young people associating drugs with being cool because their favorite rappers have music about struggling with addiction. i’ll admit that some rappers straight up glorify things like violence and drug use, but i think they too misunderstand why so much of hip hop’s subject matter deals with heavy topics like that. it would be like a female rapper making music about how she used to be a sex worker but rap allowed her to get away from that life and how terrible it was, and then everyone thinks she’s glorifying prostitution and completely misses the message.
My first thought in my head when he said that BS! Talib is so full of shit its coming out his ears!
I’ll never listen to Talib’s music again. And the f’ing “Vlad” guy??? Pitiful
Which is completely true.
Talib is tempting me to buy Facts again
Facts indeed 🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻😜😎
First it was you have to be Jamaican to have dreadlocks (KZhead Search of Woke idiots), now you have to be "What" now to rap. Ben and Tom have proved their point.
Rapping is what they are doing on the mic...... hip hop is the culture. Nice panel Mr Morgan
The clown doesn't get it. If you do not do what Ben talked about, why are you triggered? What a joker!
The truth hurts & they are all wishing they were independent AND had a wonderful, talented videographer girlfriend instead of a pole dancer.😂
Talib Kwali had one song that mattered in...uh, maybe circa 2006 & I can't remember it. I don't ever wanna hear it ever again after experiencing 3 minutes of his Severe, Crippling TDS on national television. Tom - Seems like a nice enough guy but I'll pass on his music. I don't do white rappers (because I'm a racist).
It's like, dude, we literally sang this song about you! I dedicate the “People So Stupid” song by Tom McDonald to this triggered guy. The lyrics describe him accurately. 😂
Exactly! Claims to have gotten the point.....but never internalized the good messages in the song. I bet he didn't even listen to it....his hate wouldn't let him.
Well because if you feel that a large public figure with a massive audience fails to understand, respect, and properly represent all of the culture you’re apart of then I think you’re completely justified to be upset by it. That doesn’t mean your doing what what Ben is talking about.
Talib sounds like that song was made about him personally. Another dude thinking with his feelings.
yup proves bens point... facts dont care about your feelings...
TDS is strong with this one
But DJ Vlad has a point “We’re not turning your sons into thugs” what year do you think it’s man 10 years ago this might have almost kinda made sense when Chief Keef was one bigger rappers (and really only him) but now it’s a punchline
It's more relevant now. The rappers are getting younger and younger. Drill is still a thing and kids are shooting niggas now. I remember when rappers were grown ass men with money and hoes. Now there lil kids talking about drive bys on other kids. Smoking they OP's. Shit is wild B. @mattboyer3385
YOU hit the nail on the head!
I’m not even a fan of talib but he’s correct. If he really had an issue with the tropes of hip hop why is he not addressing the industry to promote such music. Most music executives are white.
Man, i uh, what now? All i heard Talib say was "Donald Trump" is he in the song too?
Talib hasn't had an update in 20 years, still running Windows XP
More like that windows 98 😂
totally agree
🤣🤣 that’s a good one
Well, it's obvious that Talib is blowing it out his rear end. If there is a racist in the group, it's very evident that it's not any of the white men in this group. If I said to Talib that the sky is blue, he would reply that since I mentioned color, I must be a racist. The guy is uninformed, he's prejudiced, and is exactly in the group that Tom's song is aimed at. It's also obvious to me that he has TDS.
Lmao 🤣🤣🤣