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I did buy the Forester for my wife over the RAV4 and do not regret it! The Forester is amazing. A touch under powered but otherwise a very nice car.
@stevenperry4947Ай бұрын
I work at Toyota, and I bought a 2020 forester. No regrets everytime I have to drive a rav4. To the crowd that says “Subarus blow head gaskets,” that was 10 years ago people. Let it go. Trust me, you don’t think all the turbos they are putting in Toyotas aren’t going to start blowing gaskets and raising other issues. Just please don't do 10000 mile oil changes... Most people fall under the "severe" category aka halfing the interval to 5k.
@ralkros68110 ай бұрын
I keep telling everyone the head gasket issue was resolved in 2014.
@czuidema080910 ай бұрын
Toyota didn’t start making turbos starting 10 years ago. Yes your choice is great. I would take RAV4 myself and keep resale value.
@boxoffisa8 ай бұрын
The Forester has a very equivalent if not better resale value. I’ve owned both Toyotas and Subarus.
@spacedune137 ай бұрын
Time to kill that meme lol
@Thawhid7 ай бұрын
@@czuidema0809 The Head-gaskets for USA Made Forester/Outback and Legacy only. The JDM or Made in Japan for Asia/Australia and NZ had no Problems It turned out that = Rumors = HG Made in Mexico? Cheers, My Subaru Legacy 1992; kept me going until it got stolen in May this year 2023. Besides, Timing-Belt in my Legacy was original until changed in 2019 (from 1992) = even the Tech Lady, Subaru Licenced, was shocked because she was born 1993; she said "this timing-belt was older than me" ... We/I still have the Belt next to my computer as a souvenir...
@Studio89Graphic6 ай бұрын
*me watching this when i already bought a forester over a rav4*
@moonj60511 ай бұрын
Same! 😂
@samuelhall721410 ай бұрын
🤝🏾 same
@lenafrances483410 ай бұрын
Love this😂
@zeruiahwild17 ай бұрын
Same 🤝
@OGFastforwardz7 ай бұрын
Same here!
@TheRenaissanceAmazon6 ай бұрын
Yea to the forester. All terrain. Took it to many national parks, canada in fall, 3 month trip from California to peru 🇵🇪. Still running.
@TheMaleNurse777 Жыл бұрын
Uhhhh how in the heck did you get your car from California to peru, if you managed to drive through the Darien gap you should be a very wealthy man 😂
@ModestMonkey10 ай бұрын
@@ModestMonkeylol I think you use a ferry. Tacomabeast wants to do that as his dad did back in the day in a Toyota truck of some sort to their native equador.
@Walterrinho9 ай бұрын
no content tho ? okay 👍🏻
@MYRONone.5 ай бұрын
I love my Subaru forester. The dashboard alone looks much better than the Rav4.
@Mi.MiEspacio.9 ай бұрын
Forester☝🏽 all the way Rav 4 isn’t as capable off road as the forester, and no Subarus don’t have head gasket issues any more.
@JesusTorres-bw3bn10 ай бұрын
Head Gasket in Subaru's Mostly Legacy, Outback and Impreza's from Indiana... USA I have not heard that consistently in JDM or Made in Japan for International Markets = including Aussie/ New Zealand. Subaru Foresters have been Manufactured out of Japan.. Probability of HG persistent less than the ones from Indiana like Legacy, Outback and Impreza. [ So, why do we hear so much about head gaskets and why is the year so important? Early engines had a head gasket that was made from a compressible fibre material with metal rings around the important parts to contain the extreme pressures of combustion. These were known as composite gaskets, and they had their limitations. They would sometimes need to be re-tensioned as the material compressed over time. If the metal ring had any breach of sealing, the fibre material backing it up would ‘blow’ out due to the extreme pressure which would result in a catastrophic failure. The term ‘blown head gasket’ refers to a hole blown through the sealing material to allow combustion pressures to escape. Also, it can allow coolant to enter the cylinder or mix with the oil. The loss of cylinder compression usually causes an engine to run on less than all its cylinders. Composite style head gaskets have almost completely vanished from modern engines, Subaru along with most manufacturers have abandoned them in favour of metal shim style gaskets. Sometimes referred to as MLS gaskets they are a thin stainless steel shim or layers of thin steel shims riveted together, sometimes with a sealing coating. Better gasket technology and better surface finishing machinery and assembly process have made the compressible nature of the fibre composite head gasket redundant. This shim style of head gasket started being phased in around the mid-’90s on Subaru’s and by 2000 was across the board. The style of the gasket is exceptionally robust and almost impossible to blow as it’s harder than the surrounding aluminium cylinder block and head. As they don’t compress over time, re-tensioning was also a thing of the past. ]
@Studio89Graphic5 ай бұрын
When did they have those issues? Looking at getting a second hand one
@stevetuckey3 ай бұрын
I had a Subaru Forester and my wife loved it. Would definitely recommend it over the Rav-4
@BigBadRivi9 ай бұрын
I did buy the forester and have had zero regrets it really is a great car
@ProfessorBelter3 ай бұрын
Forester all the way. My 2016 Outback is a dream to drive.
@ashleylitebrite697110 ай бұрын
I recently totaled my 2010 forester and we have a 2023 rav 4 rental and that forester is a lot better. I would rather be in a crash in the 2010 forester over the 2023 rav 4. W Subaru
@liltomtom90557 ай бұрын
😂 had to laugh at your comment. It’s not often I see input on which is preferred to be in during a crash. - hope you’re okay and fully recovered 👍
@7clippers12 ай бұрын
Just brought home a Forester. I was impressed with quality of interior and it’s so comfortable driving home from work.
@TrojanRabbit5213 ай бұрын
I chose a forester over the rav 4 and was shocked at my decision but man was it a good one!!!
@mamak20664 ай бұрын
I've driven both and the Forester wins by a landslide IMO. You can't beat the huge windows and spaciousness inside. It feels very airy and comfortable. The Rav4 on the other hand feels very closed in and the ergonomics are terrible.
@gcanyon31144 ай бұрын
I wanted a Forester its more spacious than the rav4. Also the moonroof is wider. But i ended up with an XSE rav4 because of the MPG. No regrets.
@Francis.Rivers10 ай бұрын
200k miles on my forester and counting with no problems. Yeah I’ll take the Subaru any day over dealing with the issues of a Toyota, there’s a reason subarus are on the road longer than any other brand sold in the last 10 years
@sidjt8 ай бұрын
Lmao
@JoseSerrano-ci9st5 ай бұрын
@@JoseSerrano-ci9st96% of Subarus are still on the road
@Santanabat4 ай бұрын
What issues?
@DUNGSTAАй бұрын
got a rav4 hybrid xle standard with awd for 35k out the door.
@SuperCrunkies Жыл бұрын
That’s not fully loaded though
@fireworks1972 Жыл бұрын
I see them $35k msrp xle my area
@LANDIIIIIOFIIIIIFIRE Жыл бұрын
Not in souther California they are super expensive
@disksas11 ай бұрын
in japan
@pedrocollado603910 ай бұрын
Suabru's AWD is better though
@vincent890010 ай бұрын
Saw a 2023 rav 4 get stuck on Parson Branch road in Townsend tn. My outback made it like a champ. Made a vid.
@GlennsHardWired6 ай бұрын
I love my 2019 Subaru Forester Sport with over 60K miles. I have had zero problems. I love the EyeSight and having good visibility all around.
@bobkloth57Ай бұрын
Did you install an auto stopper on it for that start stop function. Totally worth it! I also hooked up my dash cam to the eyesight instead of hardwiring it and put a remote start on it instead of paying that stupid subscription for it. I did so much more to that car I just love it!!! My only complaint is the cheap plastic for the electronic seat controls but I love everything else and you can’t even tell the difference between the 20 21 22 and 23 models
@fazo4353Ай бұрын
@@fazo4353 Thank you for your reply. My Subaru has a button to deactivate the stop/start. I had a remote start installed. I’m glad that you like your Forester too.
@bobkloth57Ай бұрын
Would not even consider the RAV4. Forester is far more superior in quality, ability, reliability, space, comfort and safety.
@merdadrezai11952 ай бұрын
6. Subaru will have head gasket leak in a few years. And the Toyota won't.
@jmartyt9810 Жыл бұрын
They've fixed the head gasket issues. I think it's their CVTs that are problematic now.
@flaggov6949 Жыл бұрын
@flaggov6949 You can't really fix the issue because it's a design flaw of the boxer engine. At most, you can make the engine last a bit longer but will still fail
@bluehydro88 Жыл бұрын
No more head gasket issues. A new re designed head gasket solved that issue.
@PRO4XKEV Жыл бұрын
@@flaggov6949 no its their timing covers and cam covers. I know i have 2 subarus... both leak
@Hallowsaw Жыл бұрын
Wrong
@cruzinthruspace Жыл бұрын
More quiet, safer in real world crashes, and some other advantages to RAV4, but the transmission and engine might last longer in the Toyota. And some prefer the AWD. The new 2025 Forester will have more sound deadening, improved seats and general look, along with tighter steering. The sightlines out of the Subaru are great -- like a fish bowl. I think it is coming in Spring of this year. I will consider it, though I like the sporty look of the CrossTrek. The new Forester will look more like a Honda CRV ( latest style ).
@lorenschwiderski3 ай бұрын
And no one can steal ur subaru unlike Toyota
@mdumisenimfuphi8619Ай бұрын
Late in 2022, I bought a RAV4 AWD XLE Premium for $36.5K. My wife had her heart set on a Forest Green Outback Wilderness for $38.3K and she liked both, but the RAV4 being $1800 cheaper, she happily took the RAV4. I was happy not to have the boxer engine.
@RG-tx6up Жыл бұрын
What year Foresters are the best?
@bob-o98653 ай бұрын
I'm not a fan of the CVT transmission in the subaru . But i guess they are more reliable by now
@allanguy25222 ай бұрын
Yep, for a decade. Best advice, have the tranny fluid changed every 40k miles. SOA says it's a "lifetime" fluid, yet Canadian & Japanese owners are advised to have it done every 30 - 40k. Doesn't make much sense since it's the same vehicle, built at the same plant.
@danielfair4675Ай бұрын
Forester hands down over the RAV4. Just got myself an MY23 Forester and I love it!
@Mike_446 ай бұрын
Subaru will be way more fun and feel safer if you live in rain or snow areas. If you don’t Rav 4 will last twice as long with zero issues if you keep up the maintenance required
@vickvega57110 ай бұрын
My wife and I tested both cars and something you don’t mention, is how much better the Subaru drives. The engine in the two rav4s we test was anemic and boring, and it felt dark in the interior. And the dealerships were night and day with how we were treated and what we were offered. Subaru by a mile.
@Bjb103129 күн бұрын
I'm getting the Forester this year 🙌🏽
@adam-davidvaught838220 күн бұрын
I got the Rav 4 hybrid XLE for $36400 out the door .Much better looking vehicle and reliable
@makipa20021 Жыл бұрын
Way better mpg probably as well
@Nun656611 ай бұрын
Honestly, for that price for the hybrid (in this market), you got a steal.
@ralkros68110 ай бұрын
I got my 21 forestor sport fully loaded $36000 out the door. Mine definitely looks better then any rav4 and for the reliability part I’d say Subaru has 97% of its cars on the road while Toyota has 80%
@Santanabat4 ай бұрын
Better looking is subjective. I’d still take a RAV4 because it’s a Toyota, but the Forester looks better
@JacksonWalter7354 ай бұрын
Yup got a ‘03 Forester
@btx5740 Жыл бұрын
Only reason I even considered a RAV4 is for the hybrid. Even with all the gas savings and my environmentally friendly bent, the superiority of the Forester in every other way is going to prevent me from choosing Toyota.
@Armondahad3 ай бұрын
Own a 2015 forester at the time I also test drove the rav4 of that year and chose the forester. I think from a cost of ownership the rav4 wins. The rav4 has a better engine. I had my forester in very loose sand on a beach that would have stranded most suvs the forester went through it like it was a Jeep. Not even a hint of getting stuck.
@michaelcafaro40229 ай бұрын
Nope previously owned 2 Subarus a 93 and 09 the 93 was dead reliable unfortunately I ended up in a wreck and it was totaled. The 09 had constant issues. We finally ended up getting a 21 rav4 and it’s been a pleasure to drive soft and comfortable on the road and plenty of interior space.
@JuanDePan11 ай бұрын
Lmao u had OLD CARS no shit ur ganna have a lot of issues
@AP3X__6367 ай бұрын
Did u even watch the video?
@DUNGSTAАй бұрын
Shut up and take my money 😂❤. But there's also one other thing it has turning headlights. Not RAV4. While it sounds gimmicky, in real life, it does help a lot. I have a car that has just that.
@GerryStilton Жыл бұрын
What about RAV4 hybrid vs Forester? Prices are very close but mpg would be better on RAV4. Or not worth it ?
@agak6119 күн бұрын
I'm buying Forrester 2018 this coming monday and I can't wait to put my hand on it
@ossamaamis87094 ай бұрын
I love my Forester Touring!
@howardpaul76142 күн бұрын
I mean I wouldn't get the Forester but I also wouldn't get the Rav4 😂
@tonyz25515 күн бұрын
Good luck keeping that huge timing chain cover from leaking and that applies to all boxer engines. Instead of using a pre-molded gasket, the geniuses at Subaru decide to use RTV. Feel sorry for the poor mechanic that has to sit there and scrape both mating services of rtv and reapply hoping there are no breaks.
@bugsyboy5323Ай бұрын
well toyota owns 30% of subaru also rav4 has ventilated seats and 39,000 is without tax
@amoghdave28769 ай бұрын
Correction: only 20%. And what does that matter or have to do with the price in China? Lol
@LookingGlass247 ай бұрын
the rav has better resale value, better reliability and cheap maintenance. only reason for the forester is trying to be different
@dunamishub3180 Жыл бұрын
Resale value hahaha
@darkblacker_help378 Жыл бұрын
Subaru's have good resale value as well.
@Gopinathk17 Жыл бұрын
Love how when people are buying cars these days they are already thinking about selling it...
@nick428111 ай бұрын
Based on my test drive experience, the Forester had way less cabin noise than the RAV4
@HolyEyeWasHere11 ай бұрын
Rav4 is more reliable, fun-responsive 8 speed transmission, more HP (209), RAV4 also comes as a hybrid(230HP) or plug-in (300HP) , Forester only 182 HP sorry ... but no to a future Subaru
@mirceamunteanu4791 Жыл бұрын
I’d buy the Forester but, I own an XT
@cnobillbradley9673 Жыл бұрын
The current engine design doesn’t have any head gasket issues, got 150k on my 2016, no issues. The old Subi and Toyota 3.0 V-6 are not so good.
@redoakranch1783 Жыл бұрын
What about the MPG difference
@thelivinglegend19289 ай бұрын
Does this forester come with an alternate option than, the skin seat covering? Thank you
@BadKittyNoMilk8 ай бұрын
Yes if you go for the Limited
@TammyTobin-jm5scАй бұрын
It looks good, but I'd go Honda Passport vs. the new CRV. 😂
@tonelocrianАй бұрын
This is the only one id buy after the crv or rav
@MrBGee Жыл бұрын
Unfortunately the one thing as a personal choice is I don’t want a car with a CVT, that being said Subaru does a good job making them feel normal under normal driving. My grandma has a 2018 Subaru Forester Sport for a while and i didn’t know it was a CVT till I had to merge onto the Highway one day. But I just don’t like CVT, they make the cars feel sluggish plus the fact that if you’re going for performance. Do you wanna hear a little 2 liter boxer sitting at 6000rpm consistently at full throttle?
@caydenworley5002 Жыл бұрын
Outback or RAV4. Lasts longer
@michaelswick425110 ай бұрын
The Forester is more spacious on the inside and appears to be more rugged. A real Toyota guy here other manufacturers are building better products at a lower price point.
@richardtaylor7485 Жыл бұрын
I drive a Toyota now and really considering a Subaru either the outback or the Forester mainly because Toyota high prices. Looking for something just as reliable as Toyota but as expensive
@jonathanbell55707 ай бұрын
Definitely rav 4 or this car. Doesn’t compare to Toyota ingenuity
@robertsamuel2990 Жыл бұрын
RAV4 all the way! Reliability matters!
@abi5h10 ай бұрын
Subaru’s maintenance costs are astronomical!
@mathhousegiant20555 ай бұрын
I'd get the forester I think it looks better
@simmersinner66755 ай бұрын
Also i don’t understand why consumer reports is silent on this subaru forester engine issue
@yzhakronen626810 ай бұрын
Because there aren't any in this current generation.
@Hilariousaurus10 ай бұрын
They literally don't exist. If we are talking about things from 2009 we can talk about Toyotas v6. Wait 5 years until Toyotas turbo and hybrids start dying, doubting Japanese craftsmanship is ignorance at it's finest
@dingusfuzzklonnkt27558 ай бұрын
i love you man all the time i look to your vidoes you great man and classic man
@user-pj3ey6my4c11 ай бұрын
Yes I would buy it and plus all of that stuff comes standard on the Subaru Forester why the rapper or you got to pay extra there and it'll go into the 40,000 I'm not doing that I'm getting the Subaru Forester
@tanekiagrant84799 ай бұрын
I would choose the rav4.
@jerryfieldz7701 Жыл бұрын
Just got my Rav4 XLE last week and I LOVE IT!! It’s a lot of fun to drive and I love how high up it sits.
@dianaleon175211 ай бұрын
@@dianaleon1752how has it held up so far now? I’m trying to decide between that and a Mazda CX5 either Preferred or Premium depending on which one arrives to the dealership first. I love the RAV4 because it’s a Toyota (reliability and track record is massive) and it’s larger, but the CX5 is more fun to drive, feels more premium, and doesn’t have a CVT like the RAV4.
@JacksonWalter7354 ай бұрын
@@JacksonWalter735 so from what I have been reading the hybrid has an ecvt which is different from the cvt’s in other vehicles. The gas powered RAV4 has the popular 8 speed automatic transmission. I’ve had it for almost 8 months now and I LOVE it!!! It’s perfect for my everyday needs and I’ve customized it a little too. Before getting it I looked at the CRV and the Cx-50, but I fell in love with the RAV4. MAZDA, from what I’ve heard is pretty great!! I already have 10,600 miles on my ravioli and no problems yet!!
@dianaleon17523 ай бұрын
@@dianaleon1752 thanks Diana! I appreciate the info and help!
@JacksonWalter7353 ай бұрын
Forester ‘premium’ or RAV4 XLE awd? Thats my budget and I can’t seem to make up my mind…
@BlazinBlades3 ай бұрын
I'm in the same boat. Can't decide between the same two, subaru premium or rav xle awd
@simd5103 ай бұрын
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@mtmjoziadventure14092 ай бұрын
I was in the same boat but now have decided to go with the Forester. I didn't like how the Rav4 clunked when you shift into Reverse/Drive.
@TammyTobin-jm5scАй бұрын
I think both are good options. I didn't like the Brown interior in the Forester premium. I'll get the Limited. I thought the Forester was cheaper compared to the RAV4 for all the options it comes with. Good luck, I'm sure you'll make the best selection for your needs.
@TammyTobin-jm5scАй бұрын
Just got a rav4 hybrid, does the forester get 42mpg? and yes it's awd. My rav was 36k
@jumpinjimmyg216410 ай бұрын
Well at least they don’t run under speed limits on the left lane.
@danek8939 ай бұрын
I don't want to disappoint you, but there are no miracles in physics. Toyota's all-wheel drive is a marketing thing; it is engaged only for a short period of time, no more than 20-25 miles per hour, and only to get out of a puddle, and not for off-road use. In fact, the RAV4 has front-wheel drive on all models, with short-term all-wheel drive. That's where the big MPG comes from.
@andrew.khachaturyan2 ай бұрын
no way someone go for a subaru over toyota
@heshandeeyagaha9 ай бұрын
1 reason i hold my money to buy this car is because of the exterior car design...😅😅... i will wait the next generation of this car,
@zaikodozahoragisu11 ай бұрын
FYI: Toyota now owns Subaru. Who Knew????
@stevebarnes52439 ай бұрын
They are built in Japan and that's what matters. Japanese do not produce junk like American mass produced crap outsourced to the cheapest factory.
@dingusfuzzklonnkt27558 ай бұрын
Yes, Toyota is the major stakeholder in Subaru..they own 20% of stake.
@Gopinathk177 ай бұрын
They only own 20% not the primary stakeholder.
@LookingGlass247 ай бұрын
That boxer engine looking blow under 50k miles 😫😂
@giovannizambrano92711 ай бұрын
Lol when people like u start talking they shut up when they are asked what makes a "boxer engine" a boxer engine
@nick428111 ай бұрын
Nope. Own 2 Rav4's. Excellent, reliable vehicles.
@AcidFlash123 Жыл бұрын
Despite not offering a hybrid option, I would choose a Forester or Outback over a RAV4. The interior of both is nicer than the RAV4, and of course, Subaru's AWD system!
@korykelsey4364 Жыл бұрын
I got me the Subaru forester 2024 recommended for my husband that has the Subaru Outback
@andreauscocovichАй бұрын
I have a RAV4 XSE and it drives like a boat and the handling sucks.
@NuclericАй бұрын
Resale value as one of the benefits will keep me at Toyota if price is the issue here. Not much difference though compared to how Toyota keeps value over subaru.
@boxoffisa8 ай бұрын
Toyota resale value is shyte. We just got rid of an excellent condition 2015 Toyota Corolla the dealership offered us 6k. Kbb said 10k. We sold it for 11 in private party. Bs they hold their value. Personally couldn't wait to get rid of the car. Yeah it's good for traveling, but the seats are beyond uncomfortable and high winds push the car all over the road. I can't imagine the rav 4 drives any better. It looks so clunky to me.
@GFG2gifted3 ай бұрын
@@GFG2gifted I wish I was there and got that Corolla. Man the buyer got a deal. In some areas you are right. Most Toyota cars aren’t fun to drive. But they save. However if you have money buy some German car brands. They are fun.
@boxoffisa3 ай бұрын
@@boxoffisa we've been looking into the BMW X1 xdrive, the Ford edge titanium, and subaru Forester limited. All have issues of some kind. The BMW being maintenance, the Subaru CVT transmission and low power, finally the Ford is a Ford. Stuck on which to choose from.
@GFG2gifted3 ай бұрын
@@GFG2gifted I think Subaru is good. You will learn to live with CVT funny sound. But it will serve you well. You can get a forester with 2.5 liter or 2.0 liter turbo charged. I wish automatic was made more efficient we wouldn’t be resorting to CVT. But that’s where we can be. With bmw that’s lots of headaches. I like their cars but until you have another car in garage you can’t easily go on bmw. Ford just don’t go there excepting buying some old models.
@boxoffisa3 ай бұрын
People let’s talk about the engine a car could be pretty and have a lot of room and not run. How are the engines in the forester that’s all I’m trying to find out and absolutely nobody talks about it. I’m looking at a 2018.
@whowearereally6494Ай бұрын
What trim level is that forester?
@Paulpinoyko7 ай бұрын
Touring
@CarConfections7 ай бұрын
I wish Scott Kilmer Wil see this view
@rufaimuhammadaminu6873 Жыл бұрын
Cvt ? Ill go with 8 speed....
@valmac5025 Жыл бұрын
Cvt but also a 7 speed with the paddle shifters
@Santanabat4 ай бұрын
One thing missing. . . Ventilated Seats
@jellydabeste905011 ай бұрын
40k for these shit boxes, the world has gone mad
@Jonahalcalde11 ай бұрын
How do you think these are worth it then ? Out the door ?
@highwayhash25419 ай бұрын
@@highwayhash2541 I don’t know what you’re asking me but if you’re asking what it should be worth, I’d say 20 grand. It’s the most entry level car you can get that’s larger than a sedan, it should not be $40,000 on any planet
@Jonahalcalde8 ай бұрын
Then, porsche is just equally junk for rocking still with the boxer engines
@boboiboy93503 ай бұрын
Yeah I’d still buy a rav 4
@aidan47511 ай бұрын
Get rid of the boxer engine, and you might sell me
@DurrrTroy19 Жыл бұрын
It’s not a Subaru without a boxer engine, they’ve never made cars that doesn’t use their boxer design
@BigAltimaEnergy719 Жыл бұрын
Hahaha WHAT?? so then what is the point? Turn it into another boring sounding, traversal inline four engine?
@victorteran9766 Жыл бұрын
After 150,000 miles, Subarus are worthless because they cost more to fix the thing than they are worth.
@DurrrTroy19 Жыл бұрын
@@DurrrTroy19 thousands and thousands of really old Subarus on the roads beg to differ mate, keep trying
@victorteran9766 Жыл бұрын
Thousands of Subarus on market place with engine issues
@DurrrTroy19 Жыл бұрын
Yes!
@saraaronzon45626 ай бұрын
rav4 xle premium specced out is 36k...
@manavghosh366011 ай бұрын
How about Honda crv awd
@robertroy49036 ай бұрын
Do Subarus hold as much value as a Toyota & mechanically as sound? I don’t mind paying a little more up front for reliability & value on the back side.
@johnrpomeroy10 ай бұрын
This is the everlasting debate. Toyota owners say their cats have a higher resale value and Subaru owners avouch the same way for their cars. Who really knows the truth here?
@LookingGlass247 ай бұрын
what about long-term reliability?
@PrepperDawg Жыл бұрын
long term is bad but the toyota will last u waaaaayy longer then most cars
@brayansolano7378 Жыл бұрын
@@brayansolano7378 actually there has been reports that subaru foresters lasts up to 500k no joke go look it up yourself if you dont believe me
@demongaming2110 ай бұрын
@@brayansolano7378dude Subaru is number 1 in cars still on the road 😂
@Santanabat4 ай бұрын
@@brayansolano7378nonsense
@boboiboy93503 ай бұрын
Great #short!😸
@ryanfrisby7389 Жыл бұрын
What about the resale value?
@alanmathew16 Жыл бұрын
Resale value as this day 😂😂😂
@darkblacker_help378 Жыл бұрын
u forgot to mention the car can drive itself for u😎
@moonj60511 ай бұрын
Got a 22,
@nicholashorvath9812 Жыл бұрын
I would say the only thing that that brand has going for is longevity but leather suits are not good for longevity they crack
@luigiviking3667 Жыл бұрын
Leather conditioner is a thing.... If you condition your leather it'll never crack. I've been wearing the same boots for 4 years and weekly condition them. Got pics to prove that leather lasts when conditioned. Our forefathers new this very well. Take heed in lost knowledge.
@GFG2gifted3 ай бұрын
A KZhead guy who calls himself MrSubaru cautions that Subaru's 2.5L engine has a head gasket problem. But, he thinks Subaru finally fixed their head gasket problem
@papaGhurka9 ай бұрын
Real leather, nice! But vegan gonna boycott this cae
@14bqdonk8 ай бұрын
I own a 2017 FXT... about to trade the wife's 2014 rav4 AWD for a either Forester Touring or a Wilderness. The RAV4 has zero issues except the engine acceleration sucks ass.
@FishingWithHoang6 ай бұрын
Yo compraría la Subaru
@ramonvargas309911 ай бұрын
Not equal comparison in any way rav4 awd will be cheaper than that "fully loaded" also rav4 maintenance way cheaper if anything happens. Also rav4 runs forever
@kelleyfarm10 ай бұрын
Guess you don't live in a place that snow. What good is a rav 4 being reliable or lasting long going to do you if you crash and die. Subaru is much safer in snow
@simd5103 ай бұрын
And also come with a CVT included that is annoying and will break sooner than later. All included in the price😂 And let’s not forget that now Rav 4 have (finally) a far superior entertainment system.
@ravenguard1495 Жыл бұрын
Toyota rav4 has gone up market probably the CHR is doing the cheaper option. While Subaru remains on the same market.
@on9francisyu9 ай бұрын
Better in every single way.
@Itsallawesome2 ай бұрын
First of all I’ll just buy a acura Rdx advance for 48k if a Subaru forester fully loaded is 39k.
@drgvrp_dashcam10 ай бұрын
The RAV 4 will actually last past 150k miles 💀
@haydertahir855610 ай бұрын
Oh is that why there are a ton of foresters on the road with over 150k miles?
I did buy the Forester for my wife over the RAV4 and do not regret it! The Forester is amazing. A touch under powered but otherwise a very nice car.
I work at Toyota, and I bought a 2020 forester. No regrets everytime I have to drive a rav4. To the crowd that says “Subarus blow head gaskets,” that was 10 years ago people. Let it go. Trust me, you don’t think all the turbos they are putting in Toyotas aren’t going to start blowing gaskets and raising other issues. Just please don't do 10000 mile oil changes... Most people fall under the "severe" category aka halfing the interval to 5k.
I keep telling everyone the head gasket issue was resolved in 2014.
Toyota didn’t start making turbos starting 10 years ago. Yes your choice is great. I would take RAV4 myself and keep resale value.
The Forester has a very equivalent if not better resale value. I’ve owned both Toyotas and Subarus.
Time to kill that meme lol
@@czuidema0809 The Head-gaskets for USA Made Forester/Outback and Legacy only. The JDM or Made in Japan for Asia/Australia and NZ had no Problems It turned out that = Rumors = HG Made in Mexico? Cheers, My Subaru Legacy 1992; kept me going until it got stolen in May this year 2023. Besides, Timing-Belt in my Legacy was original until changed in 2019 (from 1992) = even the Tech Lady, Subaru Licenced, was shocked because she was born 1993; she said "this timing-belt was older than me" ... We/I still have the Belt next to my computer as a souvenir...
*me watching this when i already bought a forester over a rav4*
Same! 😂
🤝🏾 same
Love this😂
Same 🤝
Same here!
Yea to the forester. All terrain. Took it to many national parks, canada in fall, 3 month trip from California to peru 🇵🇪. Still running.
Uhhhh how in the heck did you get your car from California to peru, if you managed to drive through the Darien gap you should be a very wealthy man 😂
@@ModestMonkeylol I think you use a ferry. Tacomabeast wants to do that as his dad did back in the day in a Toyota truck of some sort to their native equador.
no content tho ? okay 👍🏻
I love my Subaru forester. The dashboard alone looks much better than the Rav4.
Forester☝🏽 all the way Rav 4 isn’t as capable off road as the forester, and no Subarus don’t have head gasket issues any more.
Head Gasket in Subaru's Mostly Legacy, Outback and Impreza's from Indiana... USA I have not heard that consistently in JDM or Made in Japan for International Markets = including Aussie/ New Zealand. Subaru Foresters have been Manufactured out of Japan.. Probability of HG persistent less than the ones from Indiana like Legacy, Outback and Impreza. [ So, why do we hear so much about head gaskets and why is the year so important? Early engines had a head gasket that was made from a compressible fibre material with metal rings around the important parts to contain the extreme pressures of combustion. These were known as composite gaskets, and they had their limitations. They would sometimes need to be re-tensioned as the material compressed over time. If the metal ring had any breach of sealing, the fibre material backing it up would ‘blow’ out due to the extreme pressure which would result in a catastrophic failure. The term ‘blown head gasket’ refers to a hole blown through the sealing material to allow combustion pressures to escape. Also, it can allow coolant to enter the cylinder or mix with the oil. The loss of cylinder compression usually causes an engine to run on less than all its cylinders. Composite style head gaskets have almost completely vanished from modern engines, Subaru along with most manufacturers have abandoned them in favour of metal shim style gaskets. Sometimes referred to as MLS gaskets they are a thin stainless steel shim or layers of thin steel shims riveted together, sometimes with a sealing coating. Better gasket technology and better surface finishing machinery and assembly process have made the compressible nature of the fibre composite head gasket redundant. This shim style of head gasket started being phased in around the mid-’90s on Subaru’s and by 2000 was across the board. The style of the gasket is exceptionally robust and almost impossible to blow as it’s harder than the surrounding aluminium cylinder block and head. As they don’t compress over time, re-tensioning was also a thing of the past. ]
When did they have those issues? Looking at getting a second hand one
I had a Subaru Forester and my wife loved it. Would definitely recommend it over the Rav-4
I did buy the forester and have had zero regrets it really is a great car
Forester all the way. My 2016 Outback is a dream to drive.
I recently totaled my 2010 forester and we have a 2023 rav 4 rental and that forester is a lot better. I would rather be in a crash in the 2010 forester over the 2023 rav 4. W Subaru
😂 had to laugh at your comment. It’s not often I see input on which is preferred to be in during a crash. - hope you’re okay and fully recovered 👍
Just brought home a Forester. I was impressed with quality of interior and it’s so comfortable driving home from work.
I chose a forester over the rav 4 and was shocked at my decision but man was it a good one!!!
I've driven both and the Forester wins by a landslide IMO. You can't beat the huge windows and spaciousness inside. It feels very airy and comfortable. The Rav4 on the other hand feels very closed in and the ergonomics are terrible.
I wanted a Forester its more spacious than the rav4. Also the moonroof is wider. But i ended up with an XSE rav4 because of the MPG. No regrets.
200k miles on my forester and counting with no problems. Yeah I’ll take the Subaru any day over dealing with the issues of a Toyota, there’s a reason subarus are on the road longer than any other brand sold in the last 10 years
Lmao
@@JoseSerrano-ci9st96% of Subarus are still on the road
What issues?
got a rav4 hybrid xle standard with awd for 35k out the door.
That’s not fully loaded though
I see them $35k msrp xle my area
Not in souther California they are super expensive
in japan
Suabru's AWD is better though
Saw a 2023 rav 4 get stuck on Parson Branch road in Townsend tn. My outback made it like a champ. Made a vid.
I love my 2019 Subaru Forester Sport with over 60K miles. I have had zero problems. I love the EyeSight and having good visibility all around.
Did you install an auto stopper on it for that start stop function. Totally worth it! I also hooked up my dash cam to the eyesight instead of hardwiring it and put a remote start on it instead of paying that stupid subscription for it. I did so much more to that car I just love it!!! My only complaint is the cheap plastic for the electronic seat controls but I love everything else and you can’t even tell the difference between the 20 21 22 and 23 models
@@fazo4353 Thank you for your reply. My Subaru has a button to deactivate the stop/start. I had a remote start installed. I’m glad that you like your Forester too.
Would not even consider the RAV4. Forester is far more superior in quality, ability, reliability, space, comfort and safety.
6. Subaru will have head gasket leak in a few years. And the Toyota won't.
They've fixed the head gasket issues. I think it's their CVTs that are problematic now.
@flaggov6949 You can't really fix the issue because it's a design flaw of the boxer engine. At most, you can make the engine last a bit longer but will still fail
No more head gasket issues. A new re designed head gasket solved that issue.
@@flaggov6949 no its their timing covers and cam covers. I know i have 2 subarus... both leak
Wrong
More quiet, safer in real world crashes, and some other advantages to RAV4, but the transmission and engine might last longer in the Toyota. And some prefer the AWD. The new 2025 Forester will have more sound deadening, improved seats and general look, along with tighter steering. The sightlines out of the Subaru are great -- like a fish bowl. I think it is coming in Spring of this year. I will consider it, though I like the sporty look of the CrossTrek. The new Forester will look more like a Honda CRV ( latest style ).
And no one can steal ur subaru unlike Toyota
Late in 2022, I bought a RAV4 AWD XLE Premium for $36.5K. My wife had her heart set on a Forest Green Outback Wilderness for $38.3K and she liked both, but the RAV4 being $1800 cheaper, she happily took the RAV4. I was happy not to have the boxer engine.
What year Foresters are the best?
I'm not a fan of the CVT transmission in the subaru . But i guess they are more reliable by now
Yep, for a decade. Best advice, have the tranny fluid changed every 40k miles. SOA says it's a "lifetime" fluid, yet Canadian & Japanese owners are advised to have it done every 30 - 40k. Doesn't make much sense since it's the same vehicle, built at the same plant.
Forester hands down over the RAV4. Just got myself an MY23 Forester and I love it!
Subaru will be way more fun and feel safer if you live in rain or snow areas. If you don’t Rav 4 will last twice as long with zero issues if you keep up the maintenance required
My wife and I tested both cars and something you don’t mention, is how much better the Subaru drives. The engine in the two rav4s we test was anemic and boring, and it felt dark in the interior. And the dealerships were night and day with how we were treated and what we were offered. Subaru by a mile.
I'm getting the Forester this year 🙌🏽
I got the Rav 4 hybrid XLE for $36400 out the door .Much better looking vehicle and reliable
Way better mpg probably as well
Honestly, for that price for the hybrid (in this market), you got a steal.
I got my 21 forestor sport fully loaded $36000 out the door. Mine definitely looks better then any rav4 and for the reliability part I’d say Subaru has 97% of its cars on the road while Toyota has 80%
Better looking is subjective. I’d still take a RAV4 because it’s a Toyota, but the Forester looks better
Yup got a ‘03 Forester
Only reason I even considered a RAV4 is for the hybrid. Even with all the gas savings and my environmentally friendly bent, the superiority of the Forester in every other way is going to prevent me from choosing Toyota.
Own a 2015 forester at the time I also test drove the rav4 of that year and chose the forester. I think from a cost of ownership the rav4 wins. The rav4 has a better engine. I had my forester in very loose sand on a beach that would have stranded most suvs the forester went through it like it was a Jeep. Not even a hint of getting stuck.
Nope previously owned 2 Subarus a 93 and 09 the 93 was dead reliable unfortunately I ended up in a wreck and it was totaled. The 09 had constant issues. We finally ended up getting a 21 rav4 and it’s been a pleasure to drive soft and comfortable on the road and plenty of interior space.
Lmao u had OLD CARS no shit ur ganna have a lot of issues
Did u even watch the video?
Shut up and take my money 😂❤. But there's also one other thing it has turning headlights. Not RAV4. While it sounds gimmicky, in real life, it does help a lot. I have a car that has just that.
What about RAV4 hybrid vs Forester? Prices are very close but mpg would be better on RAV4. Or not worth it ?
I'm buying Forrester 2018 this coming monday and I can't wait to put my hand on it
I love my Forester Touring!
I mean I wouldn't get the Forester but I also wouldn't get the Rav4 😂
Good luck keeping that huge timing chain cover from leaking and that applies to all boxer engines. Instead of using a pre-molded gasket, the geniuses at Subaru decide to use RTV. Feel sorry for the poor mechanic that has to sit there and scrape both mating services of rtv and reapply hoping there are no breaks.
well toyota owns 30% of subaru also rav4 has ventilated seats and 39,000 is without tax
Correction: only 20%. And what does that matter or have to do with the price in China? Lol
the rav has better resale value, better reliability and cheap maintenance. only reason for the forester is trying to be different
Resale value hahaha
Subaru's have good resale value as well.
Love how when people are buying cars these days they are already thinking about selling it...
Based on my test drive experience, the Forester had way less cabin noise than the RAV4
Rav4 is more reliable, fun-responsive 8 speed transmission, more HP (209), RAV4 also comes as a hybrid(230HP) or plug-in (300HP) , Forester only 182 HP sorry ... but no to a future Subaru
I’d buy the Forester but, I own an XT
The current engine design doesn’t have any head gasket issues, got 150k on my 2016, no issues. The old Subi and Toyota 3.0 V-6 are not so good.
What about the MPG difference
Does this forester come with an alternate option than, the skin seat covering? Thank you
Yes if you go for the Limited
It looks good, but I'd go Honda Passport vs. the new CRV. 😂
This is the only one id buy after the crv or rav
Unfortunately the one thing as a personal choice is I don’t want a car with a CVT, that being said Subaru does a good job making them feel normal under normal driving. My grandma has a 2018 Subaru Forester Sport for a while and i didn’t know it was a CVT till I had to merge onto the Highway one day. But I just don’t like CVT, they make the cars feel sluggish plus the fact that if you’re going for performance. Do you wanna hear a little 2 liter boxer sitting at 6000rpm consistently at full throttle?
Outback or RAV4. Lasts longer
The Forester is more spacious on the inside and appears to be more rugged. A real Toyota guy here other manufacturers are building better products at a lower price point.
I drive a Toyota now and really considering a Subaru either the outback or the Forester mainly because Toyota high prices. Looking for something just as reliable as Toyota but as expensive
Definitely rav 4 or this car. Doesn’t compare to Toyota ingenuity
RAV4 all the way! Reliability matters!
Subaru’s maintenance costs are astronomical!
I'd get the forester I think it looks better
Also i don’t understand why consumer reports is silent on this subaru forester engine issue
Because there aren't any in this current generation.
They literally don't exist. If we are talking about things from 2009 we can talk about Toyotas v6. Wait 5 years until Toyotas turbo and hybrids start dying, doubting Japanese craftsmanship is ignorance at it's finest
i love you man all the time i look to your vidoes you great man and classic man
Yes I would buy it and plus all of that stuff comes standard on the Subaru Forester why the rapper or you got to pay extra there and it'll go into the 40,000 I'm not doing that I'm getting the Subaru Forester
I would choose the rav4.
Just got my Rav4 XLE last week and I LOVE IT!! It’s a lot of fun to drive and I love how high up it sits.
@@dianaleon1752how has it held up so far now? I’m trying to decide between that and a Mazda CX5 either Preferred or Premium depending on which one arrives to the dealership first. I love the RAV4 because it’s a Toyota (reliability and track record is massive) and it’s larger, but the CX5 is more fun to drive, feels more premium, and doesn’t have a CVT like the RAV4.
@@JacksonWalter735 so from what I have been reading the hybrid has an ecvt which is different from the cvt’s in other vehicles. The gas powered RAV4 has the popular 8 speed automatic transmission. I’ve had it for almost 8 months now and I LOVE it!!! It’s perfect for my everyday needs and I’ve customized it a little too. Before getting it I looked at the CRV and the Cx-50, but I fell in love with the RAV4. MAZDA, from what I’ve heard is pretty great!! I already have 10,600 miles on my ravioli and no problems yet!!
@@dianaleon1752 thanks Diana! I appreciate the info and help!
Forester ‘premium’ or RAV4 XLE awd? Thats my budget and I can’t seem to make up my mind…
I'm in the same boat. Can't decide between the same two, subaru premium or rav xle awd
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I was in the same boat but now have decided to go with the Forester. I didn't like how the Rav4 clunked when you shift into Reverse/Drive.
I think both are good options. I didn't like the Brown interior in the Forester premium. I'll get the Limited. I thought the Forester was cheaper compared to the RAV4 for all the options it comes with. Good luck, I'm sure you'll make the best selection for your needs.
Just got a rav4 hybrid, does the forester get 42mpg? and yes it's awd. My rav was 36k
Well at least they don’t run under speed limits on the left lane.
I don't want to disappoint you, but there are no miracles in physics. Toyota's all-wheel drive is a marketing thing; it is engaged only for a short period of time, no more than 20-25 miles per hour, and only to get out of a puddle, and not for off-road use. In fact, the RAV4 has front-wheel drive on all models, with short-term all-wheel drive. That's where the big MPG comes from.
no way someone go for a subaru over toyota
1 reason i hold my money to buy this car is because of the exterior car design...😅😅... i will wait the next generation of this car,
FYI: Toyota now owns Subaru. Who Knew????
They are built in Japan and that's what matters. Japanese do not produce junk like American mass produced crap outsourced to the cheapest factory.
Yes, Toyota is the major stakeholder in Subaru..they own 20% of stake.
They only own 20% not the primary stakeholder.
That boxer engine looking blow under 50k miles 😫😂
Lol when people like u start talking they shut up when they are asked what makes a "boxer engine" a boxer engine
Nope. Own 2 Rav4's. Excellent, reliable vehicles.
Despite not offering a hybrid option, I would choose a Forester or Outback over a RAV4. The interior of both is nicer than the RAV4, and of course, Subaru's AWD system!
I got me the Subaru forester 2024 recommended for my husband that has the Subaru Outback
I have a RAV4 XSE and it drives like a boat and the handling sucks.
Resale value as one of the benefits will keep me at Toyota if price is the issue here. Not much difference though compared to how Toyota keeps value over subaru.
Toyota resale value is shyte. We just got rid of an excellent condition 2015 Toyota Corolla the dealership offered us 6k. Kbb said 10k. We sold it for 11 in private party. Bs they hold their value. Personally couldn't wait to get rid of the car. Yeah it's good for traveling, but the seats are beyond uncomfortable and high winds push the car all over the road. I can't imagine the rav 4 drives any better. It looks so clunky to me.
@@GFG2gifted I wish I was there and got that Corolla. Man the buyer got a deal. In some areas you are right. Most Toyota cars aren’t fun to drive. But they save. However if you have money buy some German car brands. They are fun.
@@boxoffisa we've been looking into the BMW X1 xdrive, the Ford edge titanium, and subaru Forester limited. All have issues of some kind. The BMW being maintenance, the Subaru CVT transmission and low power, finally the Ford is a Ford. Stuck on which to choose from.
@@GFG2gifted I think Subaru is good. You will learn to live with CVT funny sound. But it will serve you well. You can get a forester with 2.5 liter or 2.0 liter turbo charged. I wish automatic was made more efficient we wouldn’t be resorting to CVT. But that’s where we can be. With bmw that’s lots of headaches. I like their cars but until you have another car in garage you can’t easily go on bmw. Ford just don’t go there excepting buying some old models.
People let’s talk about the engine a car could be pretty and have a lot of room and not run. How are the engines in the forester that’s all I’m trying to find out and absolutely nobody talks about it. I’m looking at a 2018.
What trim level is that forester?
Touring
I wish Scott Kilmer Wil see this view
Cvt ? Ill go with 8 speed....
Cvt but also a 7 speed with the paddle shifters
One thing missing. . . Ventilated Seats
40k for these shit boxes, the world has gone mad
How do you think these are worth it then ? Out the door ?
@@highwayhash2541 I don’t know what you’re asking me but if you’re asking what it should be worth, I’d say 20 grand. It’s the most entry level car you can get that’s larger than a sedan, it should not be $40,000 on any planet
Then, porsche is just equally junk for rocking still with the boxer engines
Yeah I’d still buy a rav 4
Get rid of the boxer engine, and you might sell me
It’s not a Subaru without a boxer engine, they’ve never made cars that doesn’t use their boxer design
Hahaha WHAT?? so then what is the point? Turn it into another boring sounding, traversal inline four engine?
After 150,000 miles, Subarus are worthless because they cost more to fix the thing than they are worth.
@@DurrrTroy19 thousands and thousands of really old Subarus on the roads beg to differ mate, keep trying
Thousands of Subarus on market place with engine issues
Yes!
rav4 xle premium specced out is 36k...
How about Honda crv awd
Do Subarus hold as much value as a Toyota & mechanically as sound? I don’t mind paying a little more up front for reliability & value on the back side.
This is the everlasting debate. Toyota owners say their cats have a higher resale value and Subaru owners avouch the same way for their cars. Who really knows the truth here?
what about long-term reliability?
long term is bad but the toyota will last u waaaaayy longer then most cars
@@brayansolano7378 actually there has been reports that subaru foresters lasts up to 500k no joke go look it up yourself if you dont believe me
@@brayansolano7378dude Subaru is number 1 in cars still on the road 😂
@@brayansolano7378nonsense
Great #short!😸
What about the resale value?
Resale value as this day 😂😂😂
u forgot to mention the car can drive itself for u😎
Got a 22,
I would say the only thing that that brand has going for is longevity but leather suits are not good for longevity they crack
Leather conditioner is a thing.... If you condition your leather it'll never crack. I've been wearing the same boots for 4 years and weekly condition them. Got pics to prove that leather lasts when conditioned. Our forefathers new this very well. Take heed in lost knowledge.
A KZhead guy who calls himself MrSubaru cautions that Subaru's 2.5L engine has a head gasket problem. But, he thinks Subaru finally fixed their head gasket problem
Real leather, nice! But vegan gonna boycott this cae
I own a 2017 FXT... about to trade the wife's 2014 rav4 AWD for a either Forester Touring or a Wilderness. The RAV4 has zero issues except the engine acceleration sucks ass.
Yo compraría la Subaru
Not equal comparison in any way rav4 awd will be cheaper than that "fully loaded" also rav4 maintenance way cheaper if anything happens. Also rav4 runs forever
Guess you don't live in a place that snow. What good is a rav 4 being reliable or lasting long going to do you if you crash and die. Subaru is much safer in snow
And also come with a CVT included that is annoying and will break sooner than later. All included in the price😂 And let’s not forget that now Rav 4 have (finally) a far superior entertainment system.
Toyota rav4 has gone up market probably the CHR is doing the cheaper option. While Subaru remains on the same market.
Better in every single way.
First of all I’ll just buy a acura Rdx advance for 48k if a Subaru forester fully loaded is 39k.
The RAV 4 will actually last past 150k miles 💀
Oh is that why there are a ton of foresters on the road with over 150k miles?