This week, Marques, Andrew, and David dig deep into the Rabbit R1 and AI hardware devices in general. But first, they discuss everything happening with Tesla and even the new KZhead home screen layout. After giving their thoughts on the R1 they then do a round of quick news stories including emulators and the new electric G-Wagon. It's a fun one, enjoy!
Chapters
00:00 Intro
01:52 New Apple Event Announcement
07:44 Tesla Recalls
15:32 FSD Goes Down in Price
25:16 New KZhead Layout
35:04 Trivia Question
37:52 Gigabyte (Sponsored)
40:05 Rabbit R1
01:16:14 Trivia Question
01:18:18 Coda.io (Sponsored)
01:19:24 Emulators on the iPhone
01:27:19 TikTok Banned?
01:28:15 G-Wagoo
01:32:04 Trivia Answers
01:50:15 Outro
Links:
Apple Event Announcement: bit.ly/3wbJkPm
Tesla Recall: bit.ly/4dgv9ZI
Tesla FSD Price Reduction: bit.ly/3QmcKRv
New KZhead Layout: bit.ly/3QfMXus
Apple Emulators: bit.ly/3JDThYV
IMAX and Palm: bit.ly/3UAz10k
Electric G-Wagon: bit.ly/3WgSJ2x
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First. (and late) Sorry we're late this week thanks for your patience! We had a horrible time exporting but eventually figured it out. Let the weekend begin!
We were ready to riot.
@@none_the_lessseriously! Was about to book my flight to Jersey! 😅
Good things take time 😉
@@none_the_less yup
I don't mind waiting an extra three hours, it's always a fun show to watch/listen to!
If the Rabbit ever starts incorporating digital pet features and letting you meet or even fight other Rabbits, I'd be sold instantly.
if someone made some sort of webservice that could serve such a feature, if the ability to 'train' the r1 to use different apps gets released, it shouldn't be hard to incorporate
Kind of like tomaguchi back in the day. Would be a brilliant idea and perfect for kids to eliminate screen time
Mini car but better
so basically Navi PET Megaman Battle Network
If it's a pet, why would you want to make it fight other pets? 😧
You know it’s going to be a good time when you’re heading into final trivia with 18 minutes left.
After 10 clicks I landed on the Pencast Ep 68. I think it was just over 1 hour long. I do get older Wan show from time to time though. Thanks for all the great work you guys.
I love the Pencast!
Ellis’s idea about the rabbit being good for children is genuinely brilliant.
My 7yr old yelled out when he saw it "is that tech for me" lol
Not really, since they'd be less skeptical of the answers given, or would have less general knowledge to know when the Rabbit is getting something wrong.
@@Emilio_Garcia An LLM that hallucinates sometimes is infinitely better than what kids are exposed to today, falling into a black hole of hateful propaganda and unrealistic beauty standards.
@@Victor-ks3sp Truly, these are the only two options
Truly is
Skipping forward 10 videos just brought me 10 different recent videos of this podcast.
Same
Right? I was like “did I do this right? Is this a playlist?” 😂
Same x2
Same
Same for me as well
Firstly, I want to say that I really love this podcast! It is definitely the first place to go go when I want to see a review of a product! I'm now referring to the talk regarding the Rabbit R1: I was actually eagerly waiting for this video to come out, and was really curious what you are gonna say about it. I like the way David called it a "beta device", because it is, technically a device with not every feature they promised, at least yet. Though the thing that "I" think you got a little wrong, if I may say, is that you thought of it like similar to a smartphone, which I think is not the case. As I understood from Jessie, is that the R1 is meant to be controlled with voice, and the screen is a plus. The screen is meant to be for seeing if you got something right, use the keyboard if you don't want to use your voice, confirm an action after you said it by voice, etc. I think that if you are gonna treat it like a smartphone and use the screen the whole time, you are right that it is very limited. A big difference that "I" think is worth mentioning, which David did touch on, is the difference between the CEO's of Rabbit and Humane, the CEO of Humane sold you that he is bringing a revolution to the AI industry, and didn't give you much. And almost everything it did give you, is bad. But, on the other hand, Jessie, looked to me very humble, and he is eager to invest all his effort into the R1 to make it good. I can't agree more with Marques, that "you should buy a product for what it is now", but Jessie seemed to me that he's putting in much more effort in his product than Humane. Jessie also started the keynote saying that someone (I think it was said on this podcast) said after the launch of the R1, that if it would have even half the things they said on the launch date, he'd be happy. And I think that they delivered half or more than they said at the launch. In addition, from the reviews I saw, I saw that whatever the Humane AI pin can do that the R1 can, the H1 is doing it much better. I mean, it's faster, gives better results, the Rabbit Vision is much better (I mean when you point your camera to something, and asks what it is, Rabbit gives you better, faster, more accurate responses. Not to mention that the Humane AI Pin, you can point to anything, and it has a wide camera too, so when you ask it what is in front of you, you can't know what it sees.), the voice is less annoying, and plus, it has a screen. Lastly, I really liked the way you concluded the review saying that if one wants a cool, AI, beta toy to play around with, can kinda like it. And again, it does not cost $700 plus a subscription fee. I really can't wait for a full review from Marques!! :D ❤❤❤
1:07:00 "Can I pet dat dawg?" Marquez asking the real questions that the R1 is really made for. 😂
It’s not a Friday until the Waveform podcast uploads a new video.
Saturday morning in Oz land !
In New Zealand, we call our bagged rotisserie chickens a bachelors handbag.
This is amazing
Same in Australia.
😂
Rip
Just love David taking time to explain how things work. Such a cool guy. Learnt something
"The Rivian R2: Are we preordering?" All ten videos were waveform episodes, totally compatible with the 6-7 episodes i "watched" in the last 10 days while driving
an almost TWO HOUR LONG EPISODE!? worth the wait for sure, we're eating good today boys
next thing you know it's gonna be WAN Show-tier and we get an after dark segment where the spicier takes drop
I get the wan show long 4hr thing too when I sleep...I believe In that theory
WAN show is so accurate, I never play WAN but I always wake up to it
Like i thought it was just me. Late at night, suddenly my algorithm plays a random WAN show as autoplay, despite the previous video being unrelated at all to it. Every time i accidentally sleep in a youtube video, i wake up to see i just finished 3 WAN shows. Or Linus's scream wakes me up
Same WAN SHOW ON AUTO PLAY
Same
Saaaame!
SAME!
I can concur that I watch this video to fall asleep and sometimes I do always wake up to the same 4 hour video that David is suggesting !!!
thing with the nico video comments is that it's basically like you said makes it similar to stream event with commentors able to post their chants at specific moments. So music videos can get lyrics/cheers at certain moments, comedic videos can emulate audience reactions at certain moments etc. You can turn them off anyway, but it's a good way to get a feeling of how other people are responding to moments in the video. Those scrolling and fancy typesettings bring another layer into the videowatching experience.
You guys don't understand how much I really appreciate and love these extra long episodes keep these up! I'm not too sure what the watch time is on the longer ones but I really love them!
The Rabbit voice sounds so much more natural than every other voice assistant out there. That ElevenLabs partnership is paying off for them!
I asked the discord if you can change the voice and they said not yet. so hopefully this year we can use elevenLabs voices
The ChatGPT Plus voice sounds better.
@@iseptimus ok...?
The AI Dungeons and Dragons community kept ElevenLabs alive. 😅
Chat gbt definitely feels more natural
Funnily enough each video was at least 2 hours long. Which honestly makes sense since I like to listen to a lot of long form content while I’m at work
3:10 I got stuck in a loop between this episode and another one for the first like 7 and then it sent me to a couple other WVFRM episodes. You’re welcome for feeding your engagement.
Something I definitely noticed is if you don't skip ads quickly, they start playing you longer ads.
Came from Apple Podcasts just to let you guys know that I get extremely excited to see these extra long episodes! And even more excited to see bonus episodes! Love it.
Hitting the next button 10 times: all the next videos were other episodes of this podcast, the 10th one was right to repair deep dive
I love when you guys go off the rails. It's the highlight of my week.
After 10 skips, I arrived at the WVFRM podcast titled "Our Favorite Productivity Apps!" All 10 were WVFRM podcast episodes boooost engagement :D
Same here, I ended up on the "Is the Vision Pro Worth It Now" video
Yeah, only WVFRM videos for me as well
Same, 10 waveform ending with Rivian r2 episode
Same here
I got WVFRM videos for the first 7 clicks, then it switched. My 10th click landed on "How the Quantum Computer Revolution Will Change Everything with Michio Kaku & Neil deGrasse Tyson".
Thank God the Waveform Podcast is here 😂
I love the mini game everyone plays to get the best transition 😂
1:14:58 Thank you David. I was screaming, this is Kickstarter. 😂😂
Through my 10 skips I got: •A reaction video to the Buffalo bills trading draft picks with Kansas City, because i live in Western NY, •A cluster of Formula 1 videos, •The premier of the newest episode of Taskmaster, •clips from the most recent episode of After Midnight with Taylor Tomlinson, including #10 "Rats at Taco Night could have been an email."
I got 10 LTT videos 😂 (no WAN though), but I do watch almost all LTT videos including WAN-shows.
I feel like phones have become an all rounder device nowadays that it’s hard to draw a line between the “good” and the “bad” way to use it. I could be on my phone gaming or watching a movie while you could be on your phone working or writing an email. It’s one of the reasons why it’s so hard to reduce the time you spend on your phone. You do so much on it, that it became essential. What I think the R1 tries to do is make you spend less time on your phone by focusing on the productivity side. Take this exemple: you have to find out the answer to a question (this happens more than we acknowledge). You could use your phone, with the possibility of getting distracted by a notification, a news or a social media app or you could use the R1, get the answer and continue with your day. The fact that it’s so driven towards notes, recordings and helping you in an easier and non distracting way is so nice, because it makes it easier to relay in your phone less and so it’s easier to spend less time on it.
100% that. Consider it a productivity tool or assistant, separate to your phone. Which for me, would actually be useful. My phone kills my productivity by drawing me into things I don’t want focus on.
That's a good point. So often I look at my phone and end up wasting time after being distracted by other things.
@@gethinnadin exactly. Maybe it could make the phone a device which main focus will be entertainment
Here's a way to solve constant notifications: Uninstall your social apps
@@kendokaaa you’re missing the point. It’s the pull of other apps that distract. I don’t want to delete apps that I use (like YT), but at the same time they pull me into them. The lure of responding to a sarcastic comment is a great example ;)
10 play next clicks leads me back through more WVFRM podcasts (mostly, one or two LTTs vids in there) and ending on the episode with Hasan Minhaj. Also, I was a bit confused about the R1 and Spotify integration: David mentioned playing Spotify on the R1 shows the same activity with Spotify on your desktop. But that sounds the same as when I control Spotify through my phone and Spotify on my desktop-- there's playback parity between both devices. How is the R1 integration different? That said, great episode once again, folks! Always feels like I'm sitting around, chatting with a group of friends. :D
Never before have I had my first big laugh of the podcast @00:02 seconds!
I was about to fly out to Jersey to check if everything was okay! Been waiting all morning for the podcast to drop! 😅
Same thing happens to me when falling asleep to KZhead, I wake up in the middle of the night to the WAN show every time.
let‘s get the WAN show cookin 👨🍳
I just hit next 10 times. First was another waveform podcast, then 9 digital foundry videos in a row, each between 1 and 3 hours long. I've seen other people mention getting piles of DF videos in a row recently too, and they're putting out a lot of long form videos. So it does look like it prioritises long videos. It is 1am here right now too...
I don’t even subscribe to his channel and KZhead still constantly autoplays old wan shows. Sometimes years old episodes.
I Get the WAN Show, hbomber guys videos or THE RACE history of F1, all multi hour videos that I wake up to auto playing all the time.
When I fall asleep and wake up I’m always listening to some 2-4 four like jazz or some odd stoner dubstepwave house type video. I also in my sleep tracking am only getting one cycle of deep sleep pretty sure the two are connected
I definetly love this podcast!
I'm surprised they haven’t mentioned it, and I’ve said it before: the Rabbit and Humane pin would be great tech for blind people. Especially the Humane PIN that can analyze the surrounding area.
Finally! It’s already the weekend in the UK! But still have time to watch the waveform 😂😊
31:00 - Same! Also dope to hear a Hbomb shout out from the producer.
Harris is genuinely garbage
The music guy learnt faster than a large action model at 1:04:00, took minutes to figure this strategy of having some reply to indicate that you heard which also allows for some burn time.
I live in Pheonix we saw a herd of Waymo on the high way a few months back being led by a dude in a car up front. It was very interesting and seemed like highway training.
Looking forward to the review of the Rabbit R1!
Hit it 10 times and it took me to a channel I’ve been binge watching for the past two days on an unwatched episode lol
I got to Waveform Trivia Finale - The Closest One Yet!
Started at this podcast's video (in a new tab), hit next 10 times, ended on "IDLES: NPR Music Tiny Desk Concert" video. I LIKE THAT! Full pattern was something like this: * Waveform Podcast * Vergecast * 4x Primeagen videos * 3x Scary Pockets videos * IDLES tiny desk concert The jump from tech videos to music videos is almost certainly the algorithm knowing what I watch to kill time or when I run out of queued videos. EDIT: I have a slight inclination towards take-out rotisserie chickens in a hard shell plastic container rather than a heat-safe plastic bag. Both are fine though.
That intro is actually amazing in showcasing a great comparison between how the rabbit as a personal assistant answered the question, and how a human who actually has the proper contextual awareness answers the same question. How should we start the podcast? Rabbit: generic answer Human: knows who WE is. Knows which PODCAST theyre talking about. And gave an answer suggesting SPECIFICALLY How WAVEFORM should start THEIR podcast THAT week. Until the AI assistance can answer with " you should ask the rabbit a question" We still will have a long way to go
Humane is a fucking rip off and will be bankrupt in a year.
But in reality if you put random dude, he will answer as rabbit. Because you need to tech and add context for rabbit/human.
it's here ! lets go down the rabbit hole hahaha
I'm watching around midnight but all videos I was served were 3+ hour videos including gaming livestreams, long form video essays/retrospectives, and compilations.
after 10 times clicking next it took me to different episodes of the podcast that i haven't watched and landed on The AI Search Wars Have Begun and OnePlus 11 Recap!
I clicked next 10 times and it took me to a 2hr 90's drum and bass mix i listen to weekly. Also, every single video it tooked me to was a drum and bass mix. Basically the longest and most recurrent content i consume here, which are long ass drum and bass/techno mixes and podcasts
Random question, but what kind of music are you into?
@@loldoctor im into drum and bass and techno, mainly. But theres a lot of sub genres too so theyre a lot, i would say electronic music overall. Also, a lot of indie rock, hip hop. You?
On my 8th next it took me to a reaction video to Planet of the Apes on a channel I've only been to once and subsequent nexts didn't do anything no matter how many times I clicked.
Instead of WAN show, I always wake up to Dank Pods’ four hour mega videos
Incredible! I press next on the vid and it autoplayed 1hr 3hr 2hr videos and these are channels I put on when going to sleep. Mr. Sunday movies and Andrew Huber man. Fun experiment
Also it’s 830. Which is when I usually go to sleep but I don’t work tomorrow
32:35 10 next buttons later and it literally took me to the bonus episode from this week
I was itching for the episode to drop
Perplexity is a measure used in machine learning, particularly in the field of natural language processing (NLP), to evaluate the performance of language models. It quantifies how well a probabilistic model predicts a sample.
lol marques was being petty....Great show guys! always a good podcast.
I fall asleep to Let's Read scary stories because Joel's voice is just so soothing.
My major question with the Rabbit R1 has always been about longevity. Since it's cloud-based how long will the device be operable? What happens in a year if the company is acquired or releases an R2 and they decide they no longer want to provide service to the R1? There's also a concern about the company's ongoing profitability. Namely, since the device doesn't have a subscription then how they do continue to fund the cloud portion? Are they going to sell the Large Action Model as a service to other companies, built on the data we provide by training it? Are they just another Google where they're going to sell our user-data? But otherwise the device does seem neat. I really kind of like the idea of a handheld device that can hold a conversation. My nephew has become enamored with using ChatGPT's conversation feature (which is awesome because if you say "you're talking to a child" it'll tailor its responses accordingly) and every time he sees me he asks to talk to the AI. (Though I admit this poses other issues like whether he should be talking to an AI at all, or the fact his last conversation he was continually telling the AI that he hates it because he wanted to see what it would do.)
I think one major flaw is the security concern regarding “training” your Rabbit r1 to log into your other web apps. I’m assuming there's a VM that follows the recordings, which would require them to store your credentials in plaintext on their servers. This gives me the same vibes as the Nothing phone, where they were announcing they were bringing iMessage to Android, which would require them to basically have a VM access the user’s entire iCloud account. There is a reason why APIs exist, and trying to go around that usually opens a pandora of issues. Edit: Even if they don’t store credentials in plain text I find it a hard pill to swallow that they basically have full control of my accounts. It will be different if we’re using OAuth, where I can clearly scope the permissions.
If you know anything about RPA, it's not true that it would have to be in plain text
Jesse did a video about this, they don't store any passwords. They grab a token which they use.
@@chockablock34839 Not every authentication uses tokens some are session based. If the site is using tokens, how would they know where the token is located? Not every site stores token the same way. What happens when the token expires? Does the Rabbit r1 grabs the refresh token?
@@jamarforsythe7262What’s RPA?
@@chockablock34839What happens when the token expires? How does it know where is the access token located? Not all sites have the same authentication implementation. I thought I already replied to your comment, I don’t know why my post reply either got deleted or didn’t send. 🤔
Loved that!
finally a big channel mentions that the rabbit could basically be a huge botnet and most companies they're trying to integrate have it in their t&c that it's not allowed to bot and your account can get banned.
I’m a new listener and really enjoyed this episode! I’ve been burning through y’all’s back catalogue all week. Excited to hear more.
I got Todd in the Shadows' video on "Come On Eileen". It went to a Linus video first then just Todd in the Shadows One Hit Wonderland episodes. I think because whenever i watch many videos from the same channel in succession, it's usually those.
When I fall asleep I always wake up to some black and white battleship documentary. I've never been recommended a battleship documentary.
Bag. I watch every single second every week.
I was beginning to worry about you guys! Happy Friday!
Best community ever ❤
STG this video is starting to be the video that I wake up to now since I watched it originally 😭😭😭
I have a similar situation to the Wan show dilemma at night but for me it always plays Lex Friedman for some reason and I always wake up to him asking a question like 2 hours into a video 😂
Rotisserie chicken is only good in a BOX! Definately worth the wait for the video version of this episode!
I also wake up to the WAN Show! I’ve noticed that through the day, I’ll listen to 10 minute segments of traditional news, and after about 12 videos it’ll play a WAN Show. At night I’ll accidentally fall asleep to Moist Critical, and wake up to the WAN Show. Although, for what it’s worth, when I hit “next” 10 times it played all Waveform Podcasts, landing on “Verified Badges are Gone and Al gets Too Real.”
Every road leads to WAN Show
@@lumoneko299 literally happened to me last night
The first thing that popped in my head when I watched the review was that it reminded me of a Pokedex. Glad to here that you guys got the same vibe
1:41:12 it only connects to wifi when you turn the screen on so you have to wait for it to reconnect every time. Amazing
Better late than never *LETSSS GOOOOO!!!* 🎉
Huge security risk with the Rabbit R1: The VMs store user login/passwords and not an API/OpenID authorisation. From your description it seems you connect to the VM directly to type in the password. What if someone manages to connect to other people’s VMs ? So they can get your data/passwords/credit cards, can watch what you’re doing since the app is open when you’re sending audio commands..
I was looking for a comment like this. Work in Web security and this gives me the heebie jeebies.
that was a great episode
The other day I was watching Yt vids and fell asleep. The autoplay function took me to a Structural Engineering video. The funny thing is I am not even a structural engineer and had never searched for a video once.😂😂
The hand gesture thing is crazy lol. Could you imagine driving your Tesla and seeing a hitch hiker waving you down and your car just starts pulling over lol
After hitting it ten times I got to a new video from one of my favourite channels (Korean Englishman!) that I’ve been saving for after watching this episode!
RuneScape?! Loved hearing that reference in this podcast.
I have the exact same WAN show videos too! But it doesn’t come in my recommended but last night I woke up to waveform lol
dude i love the outros
More David please! Love his takes.
Hitting next 10 times to me to a Bill Burr podcast. The first 6 skips took me to different episodes of this podcast then it tool me to Rogan and lastly Bill Burr. Cool to see it just kept giving me podcast to watch
It took me through a some wvfrm episodes, some safety third episodes, then a sharp left turn into James Hoffman coffee content
The Insane Engineering of the F-35B
Limitless pendant (ex rewindai) is 4 months away. hope you got your preorder. that could be interesting cause they had working software before (it seems, according to reddit). now they're combing it with speakers.
Fascinating
"MIDYUAN EXPLAINED" I cannot lmao
6:39 The main difference between Wolfram Alpha and current LLMs is that WA doesn't hallucinate. If it parsed your query wrong, you can tell because it gives you the steps it took to work it out.
The 10th video was WAN show😂. 1-4 was WVFRM, 5-7 was a Linus live stream, 8-10 was WAN show!
After hitting next 10 times the video I got was "Waveform Trivia Finale - The Closest One Yet!". Most videos were also other waveform episodes.
I enjoy when David was comparing things, he wasn't showing the camera! :)
for the ipad calculator, i already use an app where I can write equations with the pencil and it solves them. If apple used that as a base and built a kinda wolfram alpha like integration to further explain the equations (and handle more complex ones) I'd say thats a solid ipad calculator implementation. Being able to draw a graph with the pencil and it builds an equation for it would be sick as well too.
The 10 times next thing took me to : 5 Lex friedman podcasts 3 waveform podcasts 2 Rick beato interviews
The Chevrolet bolt has been recalled at least 2 times if not 3. The first one they completely replaced the battery. Second was software to limit charge temporarily and third was something with the seatbelt. To be fair i live in a tiny country in the middle east and they still took care of my car in a timely manner.
Cybertruck is a non-stop punchline.
lmfao i also wake up to the WAN show pretty often, this is hilarious 😂
Bags all the way and till the end!
The WAN Show was literally the 3rd video in the auto playlist😮😂
The funny thing is that Marquez still used his Mac to find the true origin of KZhead instead of relying on the rabbit. I wonder if an ai device is actually even needed? AI can just be implemented into existing devices like what Samsung is doing.
fornite