Jet Engine Thrust Test - Fuel Experiment (Jet-A vs Diesel vs BioDiesel vs HydroDiesel)

2024 ж. 13 Мам.
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I test run four different fuels in my RC jet engine to see which one makes the most power. Jet A, Diesel, BioDiesel and HydroDiesel which contains 80% Diesel and 20% water.
I first build a jet dynamometer then I put all four fuels to the test with some intense full-throttle runs, the results are very surprising.
The test I run on each fuel is 2 straight 20-second Dyno pulls, this is much much longer than anybody would hold the throttle in the full power position under any use except for maybe a fighter jet..lol.
Chapter Markers Below:
00:00 Intro
00:27 Building Jet Dyno
02:52 Dyno Done
03:18 Fuels I'm Using
03:50 Ice In Fuel
04:58 Thrust Test JET A
07:56 Thrust Test DIESEL
12:03 Thrust Test BioDiesel
15:41 Thrust test HydroDiesel
18:52 Summary of Results
19:07 Sending to Project Farm
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  • The neighbors: Hmmm, I don't remember buying a house next to the airport.

    @jackl.1759@jackl.17593 жыл бұрын
    • "It's not an airport honey, but your Warped Perception !" xD

      @BillAnt@BillAnt3 жыл бұрын
    • i believe i was naked and using drugs that day

      @yokycaesarjohnimuchtar6126@yokycaesarjohnimuchtar61263 жыл бұрын
    • @@yokycaesarjohnimuchtar6126 your comment makes no sense so I think you still are naked and using drugs

      @sergiofacchinetti2954@sergiofacchinetti29543 жыл бұрын
  • The neighbors love him.

    @wedding_photography@wedding_photography3 жыл бұрын
    • If I was his neighbor, I'd be standing there listening to that thing. It was sweet!

      @androiduberalles@androiduberalles3 жыл бұрын
    • I can hear your tests from here lol

      @mouadlahrizi6109@mouadlahrizi61093 жыл бұрын
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      @replynotificationsdisabled@replynotificationsdisabled3 жыл бұрын
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      @anujdixit7717@anujdixit77173 жыл бұрын
    • neighbors: why are planes constantly flying over our house today??

      @mirmula@mirmula3 жыл бұрын
  • As an engineer (BSEE) I enjoyed not only the experiment with different fuels, but the science and the mechanics behind constructing that engine. Well done!

    @JASantiago5@JASantiago59 ай бұрын
    • what kind of engineer? have you looked into metamaterials and how they can interact with gravity waves?

      @TurboBMRProjectLove@TurboBMRProjectLove4 ай бұрын
    • هل هاذا المحرك يمكنه الطيران

      @user-ob6vn2cs9r@user-ob6vn2cs9rАй бұрын
  • Ok...I'm an aviation mechanic and a CJ-3 pilot. I have to say this blew me away. Almost all turbine engines are certified for different fuels including gasoline for a limited amount of time. I've run 100LL in pratt engines with zero problems (limited to 150 hours with pure gas). The Williams Air Research engine on the CJ are NOT certified for operation with gasoline. This test shocked me. It must be a viscosity issue. Jet A produced the most inter turbine temp and highest RPM as well as the most thrust. Williams engines don't have nozzles or injectors, they have a "slinger" and are operated by FADEC (full authority digital engine control). I don't think you could have put on a more pertinent test. It literally changed my mind about several things. Thank you very very much!!! By the way, lubrication from the fuel has no particular benefit for the engine. The only place it could make any difference is the fuel controller itself. Prist is an additive that keeps the fuel from freezing and will prevent microbials from growing. But it is corrosive and has to be used sparingly. Most engines are restricted to .015% or 1.5 gallons in 1000 gallons of fuel. If your fuel isn't heated by bleed air or other you WILL be using prist or your fuel will gel and may flame out....ask a guy that has experienced...oh...that's right...it was ME! 29,000' in a Pilatus PC-12 the fuelers didn't add prist. It didn't fully flame out but it DID become a glider real quick! I had to dead stick into DAL from FL290. DID find out how well a PC-12 glides! hehe

    @awittypilot8961@awittypilot89612 жыл бұрын
  • As an helicopter mechanic for 23 years, I can tell you this test went exactly as I thought it would. Each of the fuels has its own specific gravity, and unless the metering jets are adjusted to compensate for this you'll get weaker power due to incomplete fuel burn. The reason that the hydro diesel did better than the other two is due to physics. The water in the fuel cools the air as it is injected, this increases the aircharge in the combustion section much like nitrous does in a car. Older turbojet engines actually used a water injection on take-off(though it was injected into the compressor section not the combustion section) to increase the performance of the engine. The AV-8B Harrier still uses this today, to boost engine power when in a hover. Jet-A is a very dry fuel, and is anhydrous, and soaks up water like a sponge. This is the reason why a lot of airplanes will put an additive known as colloquially as Prist, though many manufactures make it now, that lowers the freezing point of the water suspended in the fuel to prevent ice build up on the fuel filter screens. So, that pretty much means, hydro-fuel will more than likely not be coming to an airline near you any time soon.

    @ImpendingJoker@ImpendingJoker3 жыл бұрын
    • Great explanation.

      @MrKnutriis@MrKnutriis3 жыл бұрын
    • Wow

      @Av.Martin@Av.Martin3 жыл бұрын
    • Germans used water methanol injection to ad more boost without the fuel igniting from pressure. It allso cooled the pistons. Would be nice to see if it worked on a jet. Alcohol prevents the water from freezing allso tho they propably have tried it in jet engines minding the hydro diesel. In carage it could work coz you don't have to be worried about icing.

      @ark-mark1@ark-mark13 жыл бұрын
    • @@ark-mark1 If you google it you'll learn that it has been used in jets many times.

      @MrKnutriis@MrKnutriis3 жыл бұрын
    • the USAF and McDonnell Douglas experimented with F-4 engines with water injection too, during the Israeli-Arab war to counter the Egyptian MIG-25, they decided to not give the result to the Israelis though because it is considered too advanced

      @alaric_3015@alaric_30153 жыл бұрын
  • Jet engines are a masterpiece of engineers work.

    @Plumstone506@Plumstone5062 жыл бұрын
    • Being a commercial jet engine mechanic, i fully support this message!

      @tima.478@tima.4782 жыл бұрын
    • It was so Expensive

      @carbomax-gamingonphone9446@carbomax-gamingonphone94462 жыл бұрын
    • Wait till you look into rocket engines...mind blown

      @Grombrindal91@Grombrindal912 жыл бұрын
    • And you can thank the…. The uh.. it’s not important who invented it…

      @foxaviator2493@foxaviator24932 жыл бұрын
    • @@Grombrindal91 Being a privately funded rocket scientist associate, I fully support this message.

      @paulweston8184@paulweston81842 жыл бұрын
  • That was extremely interesting, as I knew a jet engine can run on almost any kind of fuel, but I didn't know how effective alternative fuels are. Awesome stuff.

    @TrentFalkenrath@TrentFalkenrath Жыл бұрын
    • How then does the white sort of smoke comes out of the jet engine in the sky, what kind of fuel do they use??

      @democracyforall@democracyforall8 ай бұрын
    • ​@@democracyforallContrails (the white lines) form when the warm moist exhaust fumes from an aircraft mixes with the cold ambient air producing ice crystal clouds.

      @xJackkHD@xJackkHD8 ай бұрын
  • You Sir are an absolute genius!! I cannot believe the engineering skill and knowledge on display in these videos..I've never seen anything so brilliant!

    @davidbrotherson933@davidbrotherson933 Жыл бұрын
  • Absolutely amazing testing! A+++ dyno build and really enjoyed the RC jet engine testing!! Looking forward to your next episode! I'm planning to test the lubricity of the 4 fuels soon.

    @ProjectFarm@ProjectFarm3 жыл бұрын
    • I'm calling it now, biodiesel has the best lubrication, Diesel second, hydrodiesel third, and jet-a last.

      @Taydrum@Taydrum3 жыл бұрын
    • Look fwd to that!

      @CathodeRayNipplez@CathodeRayNipplez3 жыл бұрын
    • @@Taydrum i agree that i think jet fuel is last, but i'm unsure about the various diesels. i would put hydrodiesel higher.

      @lukehill6395@lukehill63953 жыл бұрын
    • Can I subscribe 5 times? Just builds a jet engine dyno when he needs one..... I fkn love this channel. This dude does the most fascinating stuff that I only dream about doing, but just as I say “but what about....” he’s done it and shows you. If he was my science teacher I would have been having lunch with him.

      @JesusisJesus@JesusisJesus3 жыл бұрын
    • PF in the houzeee

      @collinmac24@collinmac243 жыл бұрын
  • Your garage have more tools than my university

    @naturecallakbar1080@naturecallakbar10803 жыл бұрын
    • 😂

      @marleshpatil8517@marleshpatil85173 жыл бұрын
    • LoL HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA😂

      @humss-rquellansean1239@humss-rquellansean12393 жыл бұрын
    • Hhhhhhh

      @goldenheart1667@goldenheart16673 жыл бұрын
    • 😀😀

      @hcb5541@hcb55413 жыл бұрын
    • Right 👍

      @piwyasdhaka45@piwyasdhaka453 жыл бұрын
  • After 81 years on this earth I,m rejuvenated. Brilliant engineering. John from Oz

    @johnchisholm7350@johnchisholm7350 Жыл бұрын
  • Lemme give you my summary of Fuel Experiment: picture - 100 sound and music - 100 topic - 100 conciseness - 100 Overwhelming!

    @Gharcian@Gharcian Жыл бұрын
  • Man you bastard🤣🤣🤣! I'm supposed to be working right now, but this is too exciting not to watch... immediately. Hiding in the broom closet at work watching with headphones. That thrust dyno is fucking rad bro!

    @brsrc759@brsrc7593 жыл бұрын
    • Haha! ❤️ Thanks I really appreciate it! I'm mostly tried out the hydro diesel because my RC guys are looking for a cheaper fuel than kerosene.

      @WarpedPerception@WarpedPerception3 жыл бұрын
    • @@WarpedPerception Looks like a great solution. It seemed to work just fine and at 20% water I'm sure it's 20% cheaper lol

      @brsrc759@brsrc7593 жыл бұрын
    • @@WarpedPerception You can buy k1 cheaply at some gas stations. They make you fill out some forms to get it tax-free for home heating.

      @johnpossum556@johnpossum5563 жыл бұрын
    • @@brsrc759 so the hydro diesel is about $1.80 a gallon, versus like $3.20 a gallon for kerosene here in Illinois. I had a hard time editing this video for multiple reasons but I forgot to put a part in there where I talk about fuel mapping in the ECU for the jet, I believe that if you can remap the ECU slightly to allow you to get 10% more hydro diesel through that injector it would make as much as jet fuel at a cheaper price. The one thing about the hydro diesel that I like is that it burns very clean, it doesn't have that kerosene smell.

      @WarpedPerception@WarpedPerception3 жыл бұрын
    • @@WarpedPerception that's crazy cool!

      @brsrc759@brsrc7593 жыл бұрын
  • Idle is 35,000 rpm. The precision engineering these parts must require is unreal.

    @vomitkermit3446@vomitkermit34463 жыл бұрын
    • Indeed. And remember this is a larger one. A t35 kolibri for example idles at 80k rpm or so and maxes out at 260k.

      @ctrang0458@ctrang04583 жыл бұрын
    • What rpm mean? Is speed or pressure

      @Christian.987@Christian.9873 жыл бұрын
    • @@Christian.987 revolutions per minute.

      @yallawallahalla@yallawallahalla3 жыл бұрын
    • @@Christian.987 it’s how fast the turbine spins. To put into perspective, a car RPM at idle around 1000 to 2000, this jet engine is around 35000

      @wattson451@wattson4513 жыл бұрын
    • Can I strap 4 of these engines to my arms like a jet pack if so where can I purchase?

      @cyeknox1322@cyeknox13223 жыл бұрын
  • This was just spell bounding, I had a very hard time taking my eyes off the screen for even a moment. Amazing!

    @Engineerboy100@Engineerboy100 Жыл бұрын
  • Watching you build is often creates mega envy. You have a disturbing amount of AWESOME TOOLS available for use! Serious industrial grade mojo! 😂

    @tm502010@tm502010 Жыл бұрын
  • The jet engine: Starts to sound loud The subtitles: [Music]

    @tinseldegree6968@tinseldegree69683 жыл бұрын
    • ah yes, music to my ears

      @diablo12039@diablo120393 жыл бұрын
    • For avgeeks, yes!

      @emmanueltiriagarzon4595@emmanueltiriagarzon45953 жыл бұрын
    • Exactly

      @genioversity4955@genioversity49553 жыл бұрын
    • The subtitle changes into "Put on your ear muffs, it's gonna get better... well, insane!!" xD

      @BillAnt@BillAnt3 жыл бұрын
    • Her: so what kind of music do you like? me: It's complicated

      @BudgiePanic@BudgiePanic3 жыл бұрын
  • I dont know why but I am so in love with jet engines. This spooling, this massive amount of power...just amazing!

    @HELERsx@HELERsx3 жыл бұрын
  • GREAT video, from the photography, testing methodology, and all the other stuff that goes into it.

    @George-jy7op@George-jy7op Жыл бұрын
  • revisiting this video, what a great job you did, so much attention to detail on your channel its awesome. Subbed

    @boutrosboutrosboutrosboutros@boutrosboutrosboutrosboutros8 ай бұрын
  • Lol, the close captions say "Music" when the turbine is accelerating. Yes, youtube, indeed, lol

    @bernardomartineztari@bernardomartineztari2 жыл бұрын
  • That was ridiculously interesting. Appreciate all the effort you made with this, especially in capturing the sound.

    @moiggc@moiggc3 жыл бұрын
  • Absolutely amazing channel. Can't say enough about the work you do.

    @Suchapill@Suchapill Жыл бұрын
  • Excellent build and interesting results at the end.

    @binarybox.binarybox@binarybox.binarybox Жыл бұрын
  • That is so amazing and cool. Nice and simple jig to measure the thrust. Must be some very tight tolerances built into that tiny giant. Thanks very much for the video.

    @zrkn1@zrkn13 жыл бұрын
  • Wow... what a marvel of engineering. I'm imagining the forces everything must be under and it's just mindblowing. And to think this is so tiny compared to one from a plane! Truly appreciate this video!

    @animalpeeps@animalpeeps2 жыл бұрын
    • I couldnt agree more

      @wifinesesi@wifinesesi Жыл бұрын
    • What is this engine for?

      @francocastilloAR@francocastilloAR11 ай бұрын
    • ​@@francocastilloARrc planes would be the main application but people have been slapping those on pretty much anything

      @AnnicK.Zoloft@AnnicK.Zoloft10 ай бұрын
  • Awesome! I was surprised that the Hydro-Diesel did so well !

    @jameschupp2230@jameschupp2230 Жыл бұрын
  • These lil engines are so friggin cool. Also some of the closed captions are hilarious while the engine is powering up or down.

    @graham1403@graham14032 ай бұрын
  • One of the coolest experiments I've ever seen. Huge fan (no pin intended) of turbofan and jet engines since I heard one. Long time ago. Subscribed.

    @rumanda36@rumanda363 жыл бұрын
  • Some people are asking me where to get the HydroDiesel here's where I got it $1.80 a Gallon, Trillion, LLC, John Leonard Email: jleonard@trillion.energy

    @WarpedPerception@WarpedPerception3 жыл бұрын
    • Any plans for kerosene in the future on this test? Excellent video by the way!!

      @masterpanther1@masterpanther13 жыл бұрын
    • @@masterpanther1 i think jet a and kerosene are basically the same think.

      @codyhereford2217@codyhereford22173 жыл бұрын
    • Yeah quite possibly. I was just wondering if I had already missed it or something. But I would like to see results if used in this test.

      @masterpanther1@masterpanther13 жыл бұрын
    • that hydro diesel reminds me of the old J57 water burners. I bet with that jet A if you added the right amount of water you would see a increase.

      @bigboy501son@bigboy501son3 жыл бұрын
    • i'd thank you for the Noise warning, but you reduced the volume of that part so much that its basically perfect, didnt have to change volume at all

      @brinesilver405@brinesilver4053 жыл бұрын
  • Amazing video and very surprising results. You've done amassing job creating this video, really enjoyed it.

    @mmoshinski@mmoshinski2 жыл бұрын
  • This is something I thought I’d never see and it’s glorious

    @kielord2133@kielord21337 ай бұрын
  • Very nice. the reaction of the engine to the different fuels was fascinating. The amount of flames and smoke after throttling down especially. As a driver of ultra-low-sulfur diesel vehicles I know that they have extra lubrication additives to counter the lack of sulfur.

    @pilotlars@pilotlars3 жыл бұрын
  • And you sir deserve to be on national TV every evening and morning episodes. Give us more!!

    @TungstenCarbideTempe@TungstenCarbideTempe3 жыл бұрын
  • Your production is insane! Much respect bro!

    @elnurhajiyev2477@elnurhajiyev2477 Жыл бұрын
  • Brother! I love the jets you build, and the related experiments you demonstrate, such as this one... for example, I also loved the 'see-through' jet project that you recorded on one of your other vids.! Thank you for the great vids you make and share with us! 😃👍

    @M-Dash@M-Dash Жыл бұрын
  • Just a quick tip related to your waterjet: To prevent erosion damage to the nozzle/orifice head, make a sacrificial hard rubber washer about 3/8" thick that tightly fits over the nozzle so that during pierce operations the high pressure splashback spray of water and garnet doesn't damage the machine over time. I used to work as a waterjet operator on Flow machines running 94ksi intensifier pumps in an industrial production setting, and without the washer there, the orifice head would be toast after a day or two of nested parts... Protect those expensive parts! :)

    @xyphur@xyphur3 жыл бұрын
    • A sacrifice to the machine spirit must be made

      @hhhhhhhhh1071@hhhhhhhhh10714 ай бұрын
  • "IN THRUST WE TRUST!" :-) Great job on the video & the JET ENGINE THRUST stand. Thank you for sharing. I work on jet engines & aircraft as an A&P mechanic BTW.

    @jetenginethrust863@jetenginethrust8633 жыл бұрын
    • KSP

      @miguelfranciscogonzalezmor5779@miguelfranciscogonzalezmor57792 жыл бұрын
    • Awesome.

      @minijets9652@minijets96522 жыл бұрын
  • This is awesome! I have been wondering if it were possible to run different fuels in a turboprop engine. I’m getting ready to drop a Garrett 331-1 in an experimental airplane and was looking at running diesel in it. Looks like it’ll need some modifications to go from jet a to diesel but it seems like it’s definitely doable with the right jetting and water injection for those short field takeoffs!

    @WoodsAviationLLC@WoodsAviationLLC2 жыл бұрын
  • The sound is amazing. Thanks for this perfect video.

    @hosseinrajabzadeh2327@hosseinrajabzadeh2327 Жыл бұрын
  • >engine spools up KZhead: [Music] >engine spools down KZhead: [Applause]

    @tombickers@tombickers3 жыл бұрын
    • 😂😂😂🤷

      @daastan47@daastan473 жыл бұрын
    • Lol idk why yt does that

      @NKMoutrage@NKMoutrage3 жыл бұрын
    • As always :)

      @minijets9652@minijets96522 жыл бұрын
  • Watch this man's simple trick to make flying a jet fighter less expensive! Navy mechanics hate him!

    @geriger1@geriger13 жыл бұрын
  • Awesome demo and data on the testing of a jet engine; thanks; really easy to understand.

    @jimsworthow531@jimsworthow5312 жыл бұрын
  • Thank you for the hard work creating great content!!!

    @droid_727gilbertandroid2@droid_727gilbertandroid22 жыл бұрын
  • Listening to this at full volume is what tinnitus is like

    @DudeWhoSaysDeez@DudeWhoSaysDeez3 жыл бұрын
    • except not as loud

      @andyman8630@andyman86303 жыл бұрын
    • got really bad tinnitus and yubb thats about it.

      @Nifilheimur@Nifilheimur3 жыл бұрын
    • Maybe not quite that dramatic, but the frequency is about right.

      @Skinflaps_Meatslapper@Skinflaps_Meatslapper3 жыл бұрын
    • yep

      @davydiver@davydiver3 жыл бұрын
    • Can confirm.

      @Paxmax@Paxmax3 жыл бұрын
  • The gigantic flask is back!

    @Liamtronix@Liamtronix3 жыл бұрын
    • What

      @someone-RGM@someone-RGM3 жыл бұрын
  • That was FREAKING AWESOME MAN! I love this type of stuff man! Thank you for that brother!👍🏾😎

    @sirburn2249@sirburn2249 Жыл бұрын
  • This guy is definitely a mad scientist whose work is awesome. Thank you. PS: Love the music too.

    @zerep11@zerep11 Жыл бұрын
  • 06:10 is just glorious to watch that engine roar

    @Ahmed.737@Ahmed.7372 жыл бұрын
    • my PS4 does that too!

      @kennai6434@kennai64342 жыл бұрын
  • Jet engines makes noise* YT: This is definitively music

    @SedrikGSX@SedrikGSX3 жыл бұрын
    • Well the way music has gone recently I can understand that.

      @Highlandword9@Highlandword93 жыл бұрын
    • hear hear!

      @michaelz6870@michaelz68703 жыл бұрын
    • @@Highlandword9 Oh you keep quiet there, Mr. McPoopypants.

      @michaelz6870@michaelz68703 жыл бұрын
  • This was an awesome video. Something I'd have liked to see to make this more thorough, would be logging of the ambient air / intake temperature and humidity, so that this variable could be accounted for. And also recalibrating / retesting your jig in between runs. Is it possible that the heat from the engine could affect the springs? Also the design of the mount allows the engine to apply a torque to the sliding part, which could alter the friction and power required to move it.

    @noxious89123@noxious891232 жыл бұрын
  • Congrats on the views on this. This is phenomenal. I enjoyed the video but also glad to see this do so well.

    @PatsGarageOnline@PatsGarageOnline2 жыл бұрын
  • When I was in the navy we ran turbines on DFM with emergency backups on JP5. Our diesel was run through fuel oil purifier and filtration. We saw a difference in power but not to the degree you saw. We also were running turbines the size of what's on a DC-10 so that probably had some affect. They were optimized for DFM.

    @cmcconn100@cmcconn1003 жыл бұрын
  • Wow, I didn’t expect the Hydo to run so well. Great job mate👍

    @jamesf6713@jamesf67133 жыл бұрын
  • that was sicc! thanks for all your hard work and the upload, i shared

    @flyingcatsofthesalishsea.@flyingcatsofthesalishsea.2 жыл бұрын
  • Dude you are too handy. I wish I had your tool box! Great videos! Keep it up, very inspirational

    @davidemmons4614@davidemmons4614 Жыл бұрын
  • That is one impressive set-up and test ! Thanks for taking the time and effort to do this.

    @Synthexd@Synthexd2 жыл бұрын
  • Great Research Experiment. One Suggestion: "Add the quantity of fuel burned by fuel type to the summary chart." Enjoyed your video. Thank you. Mike

    @michaelz1935@michaelz19353 жыл бұрын
  • AWESOME VIDEO!!!! You could be an incredible instructor for a lot of different disciplines. Thanks for caring enough to do the work and let us reap the benefits!

    @gustavsmith3398@gustavsmith33982 жыл бұрын
  • Sweet shot at 5:23! Awesome test overall and great dyno build. That hydrodiesel is weird indeed, crazy how much more power it had than the other two diesels.

    @jcims@jcims3 жыл бұрын
  • That dyno rig is 🔥

    @MrStreetboy80@MrStreetboy803 жыл бұрын
  • Nothing beats the wonderful aroma of Jet-A.

    @matt8863@matt88632 жыл бұрын
  • Dude your videos have great production quality. Basass content, keep it up!

    @irclec@irclec2 жыл бұрын
  • Damn! Never know till now that Jet engine is so versatile in terms of type of fuel and burning. It's quite independent. It's appears that it can run on almost any flammable liquid.

    @asharma367@asharma3673 жыл бұрын
    • The M1 Abrams tank uses a jet engine, it can run on any type of fuel. So no surprise for me

      @haody3494@haody34942 жыл бұрын
    • Kinda, but Jet is very similar to Diesel anyway. The military uses a single kerosine fuel for both jet engines and diesel vehicles (JP-8) to simplify logistics. I think it has an additive to give it lubricating properties like diesel.

      @Person01234@Person012342 жыл бұрын
    • @@haody3494 it probably uses a turbine which is similar to a jet, except it doesn't use its exhaust as thrust. And instead uses the exhaust from ignition to drive a shaft

      @benjaminmenken5693@benjaminmenken56932 жыл бұрын
    • @@Person01234 JP-8 can cause hearing problems.

      @haody3494@haody34942 жыл бұрын
  • Very nice setup! Jet fuel is basically Kerosene. Jet fuel has less additives compared to the Diesel or the Hydrodiesel and I think that's why you would get higher RPM IE thrust. Also you higher EGT with the Jet fuel. The water cools the exhaust like water methanol injected into old turbo prop engines. I would like to see the specific gravity of the three and how that relates to thrust. Great video!

    @georgedubois76@georgedubois762 жыл бұрын
    • we are of the same mind set

      @panjo40@panjo402 жыл бұрын
  • I just happened to come across a couple of your videos today. While watching this, I was thinking, Project Farm. Then you mentioned him. LOL 👍

    @shark70007000@shark70007000 Жыл бұрын
  • The fuels have different viscosities and shear strengths... You needed to monitor pressure and flow of the fuel at the motor input.. You should have also been monitoring the amp draw of the fuel pump... If you had used a load cell (from a electronic scale) you could have captured actual real time fuel flow, RPM and power output across the entire throttle range (a small data acquisition project for an Arduino or Pi). Oh, and it would have given you throttle response info..

    @darikmatters8866@darikmatters88663 жыл бұрын
    • Nah I'm not interested in that because I was just doing exactly what the guys do at the field they burn out their first fuel fill it up with the second and then they fly, and then they usually say oh wow this one makes so much more power than the other one, but they never know for sure. Most of the jet engines like this do not allow you to adjust the fuel because if you start dumping too much fuel for the size of the engine it gets dangerous. But on another note imagine This. You're flying a private jet and you land in the third world country, they ran out of jet fuel but they have diesel or another fuel available, you need to get out of the country because it's a war zone and you're about to be stuck, do you take the fuel recalculate your flight for the reduced power output, or take apart the engine mess with the fuel pump, pressure injectors etc so you make sure you put out the same amount of power or more, and then start the jet up and fly.. what would you do?

      @WarpedPerception@WarpedPerception3 жыл бұрын
    • easy/fastest route would be recalcing for the reduced engine power, at least to me

      @niteriderevo9179@niteriderevo91793 жыл бұрын
    • @@WarpedPerception worth making a note somewhere if possible. I was also confused what the goal was in the comparison.

      @absolutepressur@absolutepressur3 жыл бұрын
    • @@niteriderevo9179 The test is invalid. Approved fuel types for swiwin turbine engines do not have different max RPMs. The author didn't set the ECU up properly for the different fuel types. He also put too much oil in the diesel. It only requires 3% oil, not 5%. You can run 5%, but it just exacerbated the poor results in this test. There are different pump limits for different fuels and the pump limit is calibrated after the first start after the Study RC function has been performed, which I assume the author did right before running Jet A, but did not repeat the process between each fuel type change and that kept the pump from providing enough fuel. If he tan the engine at full throttle for a little longer he would have got a "PUMP LIMIT" warning on the GSU.

      @bodywerks@bodywerks3 жыл бұрын
    • @@bodywerks uh, what? kind of hard to retune the fadec/ecu/fueljets in the midst of a combat situation to a fuel it's not set for, doing so would take too long, i was only responding to the having to land and not having the preferred fuel available in the midst of a hotzone

      @niteriderevo9179@niteriderevo91793 жыл бұрын
  • 16:40 Captions : "Music" Ah yes, human music of the human variety. My favorite.

    @pumello@pumello3 жыл бұрын
  • Great job. Thank you for your efforts. Interesting comparisons.

    @CliffClover@CliffClover Жыл бұрын
  • Great work man, that's my kind of content!

    @mrnaturallivingyobiz3374@mrnaturallivingyobiz33746 ай бұрын
  • Just when you think it's reached maximum thrust... Jet Engine: Yeah right BYEEE!!!

    @flaplaya@flaplaya3 жыл бұрын
    • I’m sure a lot of people were taken off-guard by how long it takes the engine from start up just to reach idle...they probably thought its idle was full thrust until he actually hit the gas.

      @RB-xv4si@RB-xv4si3 жыл бұрын
  • That water jet & jet engine......blow's me away!!! Keep up the videos!!!!

    @brucekultgen132@brucekultgen1323 жыл бұрын
    • Same badass

      @vitalyzdtvsecond9711@vitalyzdtvsecond97113 жыл бұрын
  • fantastic engineering . I love to know the technology of a jet engine. this is awesome presentation. I'm lucky to see this. thank you for presenting this. keep it up with new experiments. wish you best.

    @cagraphics@cagraphics Жыл бұрын
  • This channel is by far the coolest one i had ever seen..Im a fan now

    @metaverse_8@metaverse_8 Жыл бұрын
  • Absolutely terrifying the first time you spooled up the jet. Made me think how completely vulnerable one is when flying such a Bizzare and technically complicated engine. Great content. New Sub for sure😉🤞🚬

    @joshuazoldschool4720@joshuazoldschool47202 жыл бұрын
    • Except for the fact that such engines are well-tested and well-designed. May appear to be vulnerable but it actually isn't.

      @nahiyanalamgir7056@nahiyanalamgir70562 жыл бұрын
  • Don’t judge me but I find this very amusing and I also fine falling asleep listening to jet engine sound so easy for me to go to sleep to remind me of being on the JetBlue plane

    @murkinranzyz9961@murkinranzyz99612 жыл бұрын
  • You’re a monster mate, brillant experience! I would have loved to try it on multiple fuel temperatures and see that makes any difference, especially for the diesel!

    @AdnaneAqartit@AdnaneAqartit8 ай бұрын
  • Jet A1 ah the smell of the Airport ! , Diesel, ah the smell of a Truck Stop ! , Bio Diesel, ah the Smell of McDonalds !, Hydro Diesel , ah the smell of the Boats Bilge ! 🤪 Great Test, enjoyed that 👍🏻😎

    @martiniv8924@martiniv89243 жыл бұрын
  • Nice enjoy watching that mate , what a beast of a jet motor, jeleous 🤙🤙🤙

    @homienat3374@homienat3374 Жыл бұрын
  • I'd like to see you put that thing on an rc fighter. The first test literally looked exactly like a real afterburner in full throttle, very nice video

    @Shockwave00108@Shockwave00108 Жыл бұрын
  • You earned my sub from mentioning Project Farm. I love his reviews on a lot of things.

    @flowerpower2671@flowerpower26713 жыл бұрын
  • Love how powerful those water jet tables are. It blows the rust off in less than a sec.

    @hebrewhooligan5462@hebrewhooligan54622 жыл бұрын
    • That was dirt not rust. The metal was Aluminum, which does not rust, it oxidizes and is white.

      @alanking7331@alanking73312 жыл бұрын
    • That's abrasive grit which is added to the water jet. It's what is actually doing the cutting.

      @BixbyConsequence@BixbyConsequence2 жыл бұрын
    • @@alanking7331 Oxidization is rust.

      @BigMacintosh3020@BigMacintosh3020 Жыл бұрын
    • @@BigMacintosh3020 I know what rust is . My point at that time (8 months ago) was that he was calling the brown water that was coming off the aluminum rusty water. Aluminum "rust" is white. And I have never heard anyone call aluminum oxide as rust.

      @alanking7331@alanking7331 Жыл бұрын
  • I'm new sub and I hit the bell. Well done 🤪

    @robertreynolds6725@robertreynolds67252 жыл бұрын
  • Excellent project and nice learning about testing. Outstanding video.

    @mikeconnery4652@mikeconnery4652 Жыл бұрын
  • am I the only one that becomes extremely excited when listening to that turbine spark and spool up? I have no use for it but I want one for the soundtrack alone....

    @Gmanndogdeguy@Gmanndogdeguy3 жыл бұрын
  • This is what I call excellent professionals .... we should all be trained that way ...

    @franciscogomes1300@franciscogomes13003 жыл бұрын
  • Excellent video ! Very educational and entertaining !!

    @FakeItalianoII@FakeItalianoII Жыл бұрын
  • 4:08 forbidden milk

    @Ara-wo5ho@Ara-wo5ho2 жыл бұрын
  • The reason diesel produces less thrust is the higher Aromatics content of diesel versus Jet A. The content of Aromatics in Jet fuel ranges from 10% to >20% (by volume) while the diesel fuel contains 25% to 28% Aromatics (25% in USA an European Union). In fact most Jet A fuel has about 15% aromatics content. The "High Heating Value" (HHV) of Jet A is greater than diesel because of the lower Aromatics content and from the resulting better combustion efficiency. Jet A burns at a higher temperature than diesel (which increases turbine combustion efficiency and hence thrust) because the higher aromatics content in diesel fuel requires more (heat being absorbed) or BTUs to ignite and burn. This results in a turbine combustion diesel flame that is 30% longer than the Jet A flame due to the higher aromatics content of diesel fuel. The result of the longer flame (in the turbine combustor) is that the 30% of the heat energy of the diesel fuel is not converted to thrust because the diesel flame extends past the turbine nozzle into and past the hot turbine wheel. In addition the longer diesel flame results in high energy (i.e.high velocity) incompletely burned carbon particles being sand blasted onto the high temperature hot wheel metal with the result being turbine blade erosion (from combination of carbon or soot on the metal of the hot wheel and glowing carbon particles). To burn diesel effectively in a turbine engine designed for Jet A the flame length of the combustion can/chamber needs to be 30% longer to get full combustion to occur prior to the hot gases entering the turbine hot nozzle.

    @cogitoipsum9627@cogitoipsum96273 жыл бұрын
    • Funny that you mentioned that because last night one of my engineer friends at BP sent me an entire article on exactly that subject, that is one of the exact reasons they developed jet a in the early days, because even though the energy content is more on paper the aromatics and viscosity change by temperature make a big difference.

      @WarpedPerception@WarpedPerception3 жыл бұрын
    • Thats a very interesting answer! I wonder if you could ofset that, at least in part, by preheating the diesel?

      @Alex-nx5wi@Alex-nx5wi3 жыл бұрын
    • @@WarpedPerception I suggest a test comparing the thrust achieved and fuel consumption between the fuels. One test with diesel plus gasoline mix fuels (of several different mixture ratios) and the straight diesel fuel with the TCU setup (i.e. do the "Study RC" on diesel to calibrate the turbine control, etc.) to achieve 100% RPM (on diesel). The results would be interesting to see. The simplest way to get highway diesel to an Aromatics content in the Jet fuel range is to mix non-ethanol gasoline into the diesel. Simply adding a quart of non-ethanol gasoline to one gallon of highway diesel will yield a "synthetic jet fuel" having around 12% Aromatics.

      @cogitoipsum9627@cogitoipsum96273 жыл бұрын
    • This is a very excellent explanation

      @chibunduvictorumeh5595@chibunduvictorumeh55953 жыл бұрын
    • @@Alex-nx5wi To preheat the diesel, the fuel can pass around the jet engine body to "boil" it before reaching the jet engine intake.

      @Nickael7@Nickael73 жыл бұрын
  • What I found really interesting is the record of EGT. Assuming higher temperatures are more damaging and shorten the time between overhaul of any given engine, Bio diesel appears to win hands down even though its power output might not be the greatest.

    @arunsharma-dx4yn@arunsharma-dx4yn2 жыл бұрын
    • Thought the same, then i realized that it frosts, that´s a concern

      @Knort@Knort2 жыл бұрын
    • Wouldn't jet a fuel be the best because what matter is the ratio of degrees per pounds of force. I assume you could just run it at a lower throttle and get a lower temp for the same force.

      @vincem9468@vincem94682 жыл бұрын
    • The temperature the fuel burns at would limit the thrust of the engine, as EGT is a limit. If the fuel burns hotter, you have to throttle back to avoid overheating the engine. The engine should never see EGT greater than the limit, and it's up to the operator (and programming) to avoid exceeding the limitations of the engine.

      @desertfresh3740@desertfresh37402 жыл бұрын
    • @@Knort In low altitude applications you might get away with it- mainly in power generation. If you put it on an aircraft you're in for a world of hurt. Reduced thrust is bad- you can always reduce power setting on a pure jet fuel without any of the drawbacks. On a helicopter which often has narrow power margins especially in hot weather the reduced power could very easily prove fatal. Then there's the icing risk- you'll need the entire fuel system heated. Not just because of water ice (at these water levels no amount of anti icing inhibitor will save you) but because wax will freeze and precipitate out of the diesel just like water ice, but at higher temperatures potentially. Same issue of clogging filters and the like. Also diesel tends to build soot on the fuel injectors. Not a big issue because the injectors on a turbine are generally huge and it'll take several hours for any real buildup, but it's there and could be a pain if you aren't anticipating it.

      @Parabueto@Parabueto2 жыл бұрын
    • Chantage

      @tienvannetten4514@tienvannetten4514 Жыл бұрын
  • I was impressed at the biodiesel getting into alot of thrust at a lower RPM than the normal diesel.

    @edwardoavila7666@edwardoavila7666 Жыл бұрын
  • Great video. As a 45 year A and P. It was interesting to see the different fuels. As a side note the best was to pour out of a 5 gallon drum is lay it on a bench with the bung on top, then slowly roll it. It is then easy to control the flow..

    @jamesberdine8574@jamesberdine857417 күн бұрын
  • HydroDiesel : Thats pretty close to how my RTX3080ti is currently acting !

    @Madhibiki@Madhibiki2 жыл бұрын
    • Liar, no one can get those!

      @StarFury2@StarFury22 жыл бұрын
    • StarFury2 only the lucky ones

      @akramkarani4083@akramkarani40832 жыл бұрын
  • Interesting that hydrodiesel performs so well. I read that they did tests with water injection into jets and it did improve performance, probably due to the water expansion.

    @rudypieplenbosch6752@rudypieplenbosch67523 жыл бұрын
  • Not even gonna lie man, this content is dope. Love to see it.

    @witty1k@witty1k Жыл бұрын
  • Absolutely amazing!

    @globuseric8998@globuseric89982 ай бұрын
  • A tip: the majority of wear that turbines experience doesn’t occur during startup or when at 100% power... its during the shutdown and resulting cool down at zero rpm. Run a blower thru it to keep the rotor spinning (not high rpm enough to keep it moving) until temps are reduced.

    @NvTwist@NvTwist3 жыл бұрын
    • it"s partially true. Most of wear is during startup when RPM's are low so air velocity is also low and when fuel gets burned flames can actually touch turbine blades and burn them.

      @lordred7462@lordred74622 жыл бұрын
  • Great editing on the build video. I bet that took some time to do!

    @hippopotamus86@hippopotamus863 жыл бұрын
    • Oh boy it was a little rough, the actual build wasn't too bad it just took me a long time to film the pieces to make it look easy, and get myself re familiarized with the CAM software

      @WarpedPerception@WarpedPerception3 жыл бұрын
  • Awesome job...much appreciated...Thank you!

    @jasondesoto6666@jasondesoto6666 Жыл бұрын
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