650HP BARON The Price Of Extra HP
2020 ж. 17 Шіл.
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650 Horsepower Pressurized Baron Comes At A Price. But Do You Have To Pay That Price?
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Love the IMC/ice chat, genuinely useful information. I like the versatility that a pressurised cabin gives you as well. Hopefully you can fly above the worst of the weather.
That's the beauty of this airplane. You can get above most weather.
Love this. I’ve wanted to be a pilot since I was a kid. Unfortunately, flight anxiety shot that dream down. Thanks for the video.
Always enjoy watching. Keep em coming
Y'all made a good point around the altitude & re-route; ATC didnt seem too busy and should / could have informed you about direct v. reroute, depending on final altitude requirement.
Really enjoyed this video and to learn about the fuel flow of the 58P baron
Loved the visual of skimming the top of the cloud great vid.
Nice ride. Nice view from a whole variety of angles. ✈️
Love the shout out for KFIN! My home airport. Hijackers is a great restaurant, but unfortunately it's closed now due to the virus.
Good old Page Field. I remember when it was still used for commercial flights. In the summertime especially, Runway 5 was tight for fully loaded planes. So they’d start as close as possible to the end and run their jets up while standing on the brakes. One day one of them actually blew a guy off his motorcycle as he was passing by. They also had a local radar on loan from the military. It was on a trailer right next to US41 and you could hear it sweep across the shitty car radio in my old Buick. They opened RSW out in the swamp shortly thereafter since Page couldn’t handle the larger planes that the growing FMY area needed. Once they moved out and security was pretty much non existent, I had a buddy who was a ramp rat at the FBO and we used to hang out at the field and check out all the planes. Good times.
Not a offense question but how old are ya?
Same memories here, got my private ticket at Page back in 82 at Fort Myers Airways. Ugh, that's depressing Anyway, Clearly remember watching 727's land over US41. So close you could see the faces of pilot and passengers. Threshold of 5 is maybe a football field from the edge of the roadway. Insane. If I remember correctly, Eastern Airlines was the only carrier for some time, and the National joined them at some point or vise versa. Seems like they moved commercial operations to the first RSW terminal in swamp the late 70"s? That terminal has since been scrapped for the existing facility.
Air conditioning is definitely a great option this time of year!!! Nice landing my friend!
Nice Ride Guys... as usual! Thanks ';-)
Thanks for sharing...inspiring.
You guys are a great team!
Thanks❤️❤️
He knows what he’s talking about with the icing.. personally, I like to go up to escape the ice if you think you can get above the clouds..However more ice is often found nearest the tops, and you may find warmer air by descending, I still prefer to climb if you can get on top..
Nice Baron with great (?referb) interior.... good flying and radio .... just really good vid. Thanks!
I've been watching a lot of your newer videos, and it's cool to see the contrast in Kim's radio calls in this older video. You've really gotten a lot better (aka perfect, I don't think I've heard it at all in your latest videos) at not saying "for" before your callsign!
Hello from Conroe Texas!!!
Fun to see you guys today! I hope you enjoyed your time!
Thanks! We always have fun! :-)
Airplanes are like race cars...speed comes with a price. My wife can attest to that. Keep the blue side up and stay safe.
hi, you keep your first officer busy, very good!
Always!
One thing for sure that is coming out of this series you are going to miss the air conditioning 😢 Safe travels.
good looking co-pilot
Yes. I'm sure the pilot has been checking her flap settings...
What a beautiful baron.
Another great video and you gotta love the AC. While I was in Florida doing my panel upgrade the heat and humidity were extremely intense in the FLA.
It gets gnarley but I’m pretty used to it being born and raised here. Doesn’t mean it doesn’t suck at times but I get cold so easily I like it🥶
@@flyingsic You two make a great team and I love watching your videos! By watching you (SIC) on the videos my guess is you are from St. Augustine? I was raised in Jax and took my flight lessons out at Craig airport. I have a vacation home in Palm Coast near the Bunnell airport and I normally fly my airplane 2-3 times a year down to FLA.
Flying Dirty actually born and raised in Jax. South side area😃
@@flyingsic I'm 74, born & raised in west central fla. when I was a kid we did not have A/C in our houses, we did not need it; ambient daytime air temp's were cooler; used attic fans at night to suck in cooled air NOW there is very little green space left that is not populated with buildings/asphalt/concrete roadways, etc; the ambient air temp's have increased 10-15 degrees F in the last 25 years, the plethora of close quartered higher structured buildings severely limits air movement so there's much STAGNATION with relative Heat/Humidity; sorry to burst your bubble but one ACCLIMATES by either going NAKED when possible and/or using A/C set to the lowest economically feasible level. If one goes into the forest 30 - 50 miles from populated areas it is much cooler especially under massive sprawling Oak trees & free air movement.
robert frederick I agree it’s much hotter in central Fl compared to the coasts. But I believe that’s also because of the constant breeze coming off the water. And I know very about less clothes for comfortability 🤣😲
Love the P!
Still amazed at how fast the landing gear on the baron raises and lowers!
If I recall correctly the maintenance manual says 3 seconds I believe.
Great Video! What is the average altitude you would cruise at with a Baron 58?
Another nice video. You should change your passengers mic boom to right side.
i love this baron.......
I wonder how much more in maintenance the b58p is compared to the b55? I really like the b58p.
Oh no, only one more to go with the P Baron.........Kim will want an Artic Air in 75W after enjoying factory AC. Factory AC can be a pain in the butt, we have it in our TR182 RG and it has a leak somewhere that has not been found so that is my next Mr. Fix-it project with ours. Great vLog Kris and Kim. What happened to the inflight snack service though....LOL!
"Get that A/C on" ...man I wish I had A/C. Mine starts at 10,000 ft 😁
what caused collegue joyce L. plane to go down after take off into simatra lake?Was the cause of loss of life from not being able to be reached in time and drowning?
Greetings from the Cayman Islands
Been watching your videos and chatted and just realized I hadn’t subscribed before. Oh well..better late than never.
Glad I was finally able to convert you! 😂
When do you expect to get 75W back? Thanks for the ride.
...yet another great video..looking forward to the reveal...after your new avionics upgrades...NOTAM...Kim Cam alert...
Ok people. When he’s climbing he says he’s burning 32 gph PER SIDE. When he levels off and says he’s burning 32 gph, that’s TOTAL. He’s not burning 64 gph in cruise.
Hey guys thanks for sharing your knowledge about aviation specifically baron 58. It is enjoyable watch your video keep doing that. I am pilot in Brazil also I fly the baron 58 but it video I can learn something new.
Man, that is the fastest I have seen landing gear come down.
On Baron's and Bonanza's with a 28v electrical system - the LG moves quickly!
... a minor difference is TBO and cost for rebuild...
man that landing gear sure cycles fast. your getting spoiled in that P Baron Kris.
Great music today. So I think SIC has some really good eyes to see Vero when you were abeam Daytona :-)
BE-58 Awesome airplane. Have hundreds of hours flying and instructing in them. ATP-CFII-MEI-TYPED...
What's the name of the song that's in the background of this video? Love the song
Nice turbo inlet temperatures.
Wow what a copilot yipi
Holy @#$& ! I pout at the appetite of our 300 hp ! But, cruising LOP evens that out a bit, while still enjoying the benefits of the "P" model. Great explanation and comparison. Kim is sounding a lot more confident on comms, even with the unfamiliar tail #. Safe skies guys !
and whats the GS comparison? whats the economy of similar trips vs WS? less flight time? i do realize the overhauls will be $$. good vid, thanks[ A/C Brrrrrr,, :)]
That speed is very expensive in aviation, I don't know how long that flight was but $300.00 later it sure cost you. I figured a 172 Cessna cost less then $50.00 an hour to fly, does that sound about right? Sure is a lot of difference. Thanks for the ride Kris and Kim looks great as usual!!! ;-)
There are some videos out there where people crunch the numbers and conclude faster airplanes are cheaper by the trip. More fuel, less time, etc. I'm sure it doesn't hold true in all cases.
Have ya ever flown Greg from P1D in the Baron? I seen video where he took ya for a flight in the jet.
Do turbine guys slum in piston airplanes?
Yes I have. kzhead.info/channel/PL-PiaX0xemXvmDgOOZKt11J5mcrsql-tW.html
@@socomon69 I'm not Greg or Kris, but generally as a pilot you want to take the stick in anything that has lift.
Kept watching Kim in the eyes ☺️
My wife is wondering where she can buy the dress? It’s spectacular!
Como piloto ella és lindisima!!!👈
Hi, guys. So, when you collect rhyme, do you have to recite poetry to the controllers? Thanks for sharing! Stay healthy!
😂😂😂
Always enjoy the performance numbers you discuss.....fuel flows, TAS lop rop etc. Kim still needs to stop saying “for” before tail number when responding to ATC.
And x point x in the altitude
I can see now why you have to get a two handed grip on your CC when you hit the fuel island. Holly crap! 32 gph per side!
That’s 32 gph per side in the climb. Then when he levels off he says 31-32 gph but that’s a total. In our 58p we cruise around 18 gph per side without running lean of peak.
love your bracelet!!!
Is this the conversion where Beechcraft Duke engines are fitted to a Baron?
Why did they stop making the pressurized baron I wonder
Cuiabá 🇧🇷🇧🇷
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She is beautiful! ❤
BP it's good to see this is still an airplane site. But easy to forget. FO is good on comm now and fuel nozzle among others. So does the 650 hp version BB just run higher boost P or are engines larger too? How about Ram engines, are those OEM eqpt or later upgrades? Thanks. BP
650 hp. that's a lot extra hp's :-) wow
Quick question. Other than the AC benefit, can you really tell a difference in how you feel in pressurization? Many years ago I hit 9,000 in my Comanche on a 90+ degree day and my fingernails were blue and I had to descend quickly. I recall feeling tired when I landed an hour or so later. I would think, particularly on longer flights, being pressurized might make things more comfortable. Enjoy the videos a lot. Dennis Miller Anthem, AZ
I am super sensitive to altitude so I can tell a difference. I get effected starting around 8-9k in our plane. Thanks for watching!❤️
195 knots at TOC at what power setting? I have notice in a AeroStar SuperStar 700P 245 knots indicated at 65% (45GPH+/-). OR 220 knots at 55% power and 32-34GPH burn rate). ADDITIONALLY: don’t forget about the 2% speed increase for every 1,000 ft increase in altitude... Barron cabin is wider... A* is right at 48” ID
I learned so much from the talking
Nice vid, I think you missed an item on the landing checklist.
Hello Baron Pilot. When your at altitude and pick up ice and descend below it does the wind speed of the aircraft affect how long it will stay on there. I know on the ground wind chill is a factor in cold weather. Thanks.
The rise in temp as you descend helps the ice melt. Even if you can get above and direct sun light helps even if you are -1 or -2. The “wind” does not help it melt the ice.
I owned a BE58 TC for 8 months and flew 1000 a year and it broke me financially. FAA has these BS rules on holding out. My blue line was 103 kts.
It would be nice if they allowed a flying Uber. But I get it. 🤷🏻♂️
@@BaronPilot $368 an hour outta my pocket. It’s super hard to build time. Since the 1500 hr rule was passed there has been no evidence of improved safety.
Agreed. It was based on a lie. Ironically both pilots in the crash had more than 1500 hours. So the rule never would have prevented the crash.
@@BaronPilot specific training in type would have increased the safety margin in that Q400. In fact they had to let some pilots go because they were not able to accumulate those hours by the deadline. Stupid.
Is the beautiful Kim unwell? She went a whole flight and didn’t eat a thing!!!
ya she definitely needs to Eat More!!!!!
Haha I was wondering if people were going to notice!
Mike A. Just FYI... calling somebody too skinny is the same as calling somebody too fat. 😘
@@flyingsic And there's an old saying in the South: "The closer to the bone, the sweeter the meat". Kim is just fine the way she is!
I'll be honest, I think that you should go after that sweet Bubly and Uncrustables ad revenue!
Chris, at 8:38 on the "bellycam", is it an optical illusion or is your left engine RPM slower than the right?
Props not in sync, so yeah.
If you can consistently land left of the center line, you can consistently land ON the center line!! I'll never forget my instructor telling me that. Cool videos. Love the lifestyle.
Just don't consistently taxi on the center taxi line.
2 questions chris what year is the baron and what is the model what's general yearly upkeep in dollars for this plane
This video has some nice vews of the ground under the AIRCRAFTS neer the end of the video just before landing
Baron......the perfect personal aircraft. No, make that a p-baron.
Like the Ram kits,, you keep the mechanics busy changing jugs and alternators......32 gal an Hr is PT6 burn rate..
You did say what your vsi in the climb was but I could make it out on the video. Can you let me know what you are getting? Also what is the power setting, I was guessing 33/24
Hey Kris nice flight. Kim is right haven’t seen you much in imc flights, maybe one day you can shoot and approach to minimums in an ifr day in your baron.
I got to admit 32 gal per hour adds up quite quickly. I thought the seneca was bad at 18-24 gallons per hour.
The P-Baron has two steps, does it have doors on both sides? And what is the source of 325 HP per side?
P-Baron is easily distinguishable because of that. No aft cabin double doors like the unpressurized 58’s.
Just wondering... did you run out of bikini shots for the thumbnails? Also wondering if you've done a comparative analysis to quantify the increase in clicks when you use said photos? I'm seriously interested to know... thanks
15:55 i see dead peopleeeee :p
You have a two engine plane so you can fly over oceans? or general redundancy. We need more efficient dual engine planes. A VL3 915 2 seater can match the speed burning less than 10gph mogas. At FL180
Parallel and back up redundancy.
Nice job on the comms! Will try and have my girlfriend do the same, but she’s not convinced at the moment 😂 can you descend at more than 600 fpm without shock-cooling the engines, from 14,000? What does seem to be a reasonable limit for you, based on your experience? Just asking out of curiosity, I have never flown in a pressurised light twin 😉
The theory of shock cooling is based on power reductions not descent rate. So yes you can descend greater then 500’ per minute and in a pressurized cabin you won’t feel your ears change like in a non pressurized cabin.
Baron Pilot okay, thanks for the answer, no impact on that then. I thought power reduction with a high rate of descent could be a problem 🙃
When are ya'll getting your baron back ?
Have it back. Just need to get caught up on videos :-) Stay Tuned!!
@@BaronPilot And here I was thinking that you were going to ditch the 55 and buy the P-Baron.
That’s a very nice Airplane and is there any chance on putting AC in your Baron ???
Sometime in the future. We have other things to attend to first😃
Pressurized, more flying over weather, lean back to levels you're used to,and both the 55 and P58 I've seen on the market for around the same price. Do it.my friend.👍
32gph per side? Sounds more like PT6A fuel flow. The reference I found for the 58P is 38gph total @ 75%. Why is this so much higher?
Climb fuel flow vs cruise.
Gee... $3.19/gal sounds great. That's just about car gas around here. $4.55/gal 100LL for my home base.
Does the extra power increase your max take off weight ?
Yes it does. It has 1,000lb higher max gross
@@BaronPilot awesome
Fuel consumption is almost gas turbine range. Fancy engines require more care, both by pilot and mechanics. $$$$
I have always wondered if you can turboprop and pressurize a baron. Would be a speed bird for sure.
That would be cool!
could happen but not from the factory, Allison 250's would be perfect. quick math on parts looking at the best part of a mill on parts alone for a experimental beast. love the idea though
Paul Putter Cougar baron
@@reginaldmeintjes504 yes, Rocket engineering did put pt-6s on the baron.
@@eminye1 i didnt know this existed until now, The Airplanes an absolute beast and its on an STC so its actually usable in the real world. gotta wonder what the conversion costs tho.
Great video as always. Was wondering if you could please wash the bugs off the windshield when making a video? You don't know how many times I've tried to wash them off my screen before realizing it was bug smears on your windshield. LOL 🙄
The Baron's are excellent platforms either turbo or not. Unless you are operating hot and heavy IMHO the non-turbo is a lot less hassle. Having A/C is so nice while taxing on the ground. Your co-pilot was very distracting but in a good way...
I find the "right seater" a distraction from the theme of the presentation. "eye candy" is not needed to amplify content or lure in additional subscribers but then I'm a pragmatic purist in many pursuits. Some folks need to have constant extra sensory "stimulation" like HDR images versus Clyde Butcher "Everglades" large format images.
robert frederick I appreciate your insight. For the record, I’m not there as eye candy, I’m there as Kristoffer’s spouse, a curious soon to be student Pilot, and another element of opening discussion into the flights we take.
0:22 I would have *no* idea where to find music like that. Don't even know what genre to put it in. 13:08 That's not 100% accurate. If you fly through a tiny cloud without the ice protection on, in a fraction of a second it covers the entire windshield with ice and you can't see forward. 15:43 She sounds like Miss Mary Ann.
What’s happened to your plane? Flown several but never liked the layout of the panel on Barons., prefer the Aerostar (and it’s faster).
What year your baron?
1973
Extra HP gets you the hotties in the cockpit.
You lean to ROP? (I fly a TN Bonanza with an IO550, which LOP is 13.1 and ROP is 16gph) at 25Sq. Was curious what the speed would be at LOP.
Is this your new ride now?