Chris talks about the NFL's decision to ban the hip-drop tackle and the outcry from the NFLPA and current and former players, along with his reasoning on why this will be difficult for the NFL to enforce.
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Hard to enforce = selectively enforced
Yep
Depends how stripes are betting or their gf, wifes!
Chiefs just might when another
More flags PLEASE!!!
It will for sure ruin a few games. Fans and teams will lose their shit and then they'll eventually admit they made a mistake just like the completing a catch rule.
Chris Long explained it perfectly. You need to stop the momentum of the ball carrier and you both are moving fast, the only way to stop the momentum is to drop your weight to the ground. Its physics, you can't ban physics.
NFL will try! They are so powerful, Dictators!
Its true Physics. It like when some late hits are called. Guy can't stop in mid air and defy gravity.
As an ex rugby player, I concur. You can't bring a 230 Lbs athlete running full speed to the ground without dropping your weight. No matter where your grab him, shoulders, hip or legs.
The people banning "hip drop" tackles never suited up a day in their life
95% of the supporters of the rule on twitter are fantasy football nerds that played piano instead of competitive sports as a kid.
Both of yall are clueless. I'm gen X and I played this game on defense, and not once did I have to use that weak ass tackle. As a defender, we were taught to wrap up and DRIVE through our tackles. Not grab and pull back using our weight. Why in the hell you wearing shoulder pads if all you gonna do is run up to grab the guy and pull him back. This hip drop nonsense is from players who aren't trying to be PHYSICAL and hit their guy so they're just grabbing at the hip to PULL DOWN. That aint football.
I just want to know how you’re supposed to tackle a full speed Derrick Henry from behind as a 190lb DB
You don’t anymore
NFL considering allowing one sniper per team, with 1 bullet max per quarter.
Exactly smh
Their motivation is making sports books happy
That Pollard tackle would be a penalty...... Im all for Qbs not getting decapitated by a 340 lbs semi truck but this is just insane.
Literally all my coworkers stopped watching the NFL like 4 years ago but this hip drip tackle thing is getting me close to not watching like my co workers say the only winners are the ones with white and black stripes
If your co workers stopped watching. They were not fans to begin with. Yes it frustrating but no sports fan or NFL fan stops watching for these stupid rules.
I only watch my team but idk how long this gonna last
@@tubelancenot true I use to be a huge basketball fan and I stopped
Hip drop tackling is not taught at any level of football dumb take
They watch college now
Not sure how you tackle anymore.......
You kindly say you’re down but not too loud so they don’t get scared or offended. That’s obviously a 15 yd flag
Chop em
Nice one@@joeheasley8046
The National Flag Football League. It’s inevitable at this rate.
Little bit of an over reaction to be honest. This rule change is going to be just like when they banned horse collar tackle. Everyone freaks out saying it’s ruining the game, and by the next year it’s not even an issue anymore. The hip drop isn’t a common tackle, so I don’t think this is going to put as much of a negative impact as people are making it out to be.
@@aviator7990that wasn’t necessary tho. This is kinda necessary to bring down a guy like Henry from the side or behind…
Or u ride him for 4-5 yards
Gotta find a way to get women in the league.
Horse collar should be legal. putting the ball carrier on the ground should be the goal for a defensive player. not gingerly bringing him down so he's safe. dont play a millionaires sport if you arent willing to take millionaire hits.@@aviator7990
they showed a video of what you are not supposed to do. Do they even have one live NFL example of how a CB is supposed to bring down a TE running full speed from behind or at an angle? Maybe NFL will just institute a breakaway rule like the NBA in a couple years where it is illegal to tackle a ball carrier that gets behind you. If you do, its an automatic TD and the scoring team gets the ball back.
I dont have a problem with them wanting to flag this tackle. HOWEVER, it needs to be BLATANT. If they're selectively applying this rule and just flagging folks that tackle from behind... Its gonna get ugly. The footage I saw them using at the rule committee meetings does NOT give me confidence that that is their intent with this. There were some plays in there that were just straight up tackles...
Don’t even get into issues with turf safety…
Foreal all this money you can't keep real grass lmao theyxshiuld be able to send a space craft to the moon with the kinda money they make its gross and corrupt
Since 2020 there has been atleast 12 knee or ankle tares at just metlife on turf
I college I made these tackles before. Never did I intend to hurt a player. It's about getting a guy down. Didn't Even know what this was until this season
I don't like it, running out of ways to tackle
Agree
OK just go to flag football!
Dumb take they don't teach you how to hip drop tackle at any level of football
Y’all scared to tackle. Hit your man straight up, if you get ran over hit the weights 🤷🏾♂️. Y’all just upset you can’t play dirty.
@@deadspace2 that's not a dirty tackle I don't like putting more calls in the refs hands bottom line!
How else are u supposed to tackle a mf that are 220+ lbs. They might as well just ban tackling all together. NFL is so soft
Watch rugby, it’s very simple actually
@@koreysamuel917 fr
@@koreysamuel917no it’s not rugby guys can’t tackle right all to high getting dragged sucks shit tacklers
Tackling in rugby is the same as it is in the nfl hip drop tackling is not taught at any level of football
@@koreysamuel917rugby doesn’t even compare lmfao.
NFL needs a physician to do a PSA to explain why this tackle is banned
Unfortunately they would just get their own DR to explain it and they will just say what is convenient for them.
Better yet, have the NFL show the players how a DB is supposed to tackle a TE from behind.
Football is a physical sport and every guy who steps out there has no choice but to accept that. Every year they keep adding more rules to slant things in favor of offense and paint it like they care about safety. This league needs to be careful otherwise the NFL will turn into the NBA. Competitive balance between offense and defense matters
I hope it collapses big time. Lingerie football is more physical
I can't even watch the NBA anymore
It will be used to rob the Lions of a game this coming season
Yup🙄
NFL is already WAY OVER OFFICIATED. Even fans are calling for stupid flags on nearly every contested play. Giving flags for guys shoving at the end of a play or “taunting “ lol. Or just hitting a guy “too hard “ close to the sideline
1:38 That Muddy Waters poster over his left shoulder is awesome! The real king of rock and roll.
Let me guess, the Chiefs won’t have a problem with their defenders doing the hip drop, but everybody is going to do this to them every play that can decide the game.
Someone like Derrick Henry vs 190 pound Cornerback. Good luck not being able to add weight to a tackle.
By 2026 defenders will have to ask for consent before they’re allowed to tackle 🤦🏽♂️
Well the nfl needs to provide examples on how to tackle someone once they run past you
A call that can barely be described and impossible to correctly enforce? What a shock. Remember kids, the CHOICE to not fix officiating is PROOF of game fixing.
I will not wager on these fixed game.
This is how you better control the outcome of football games. These types of subjective calls are way way better than suggesting a guy who clearly reported (DECKER REPORTED ON VIDEO CAMERA) didn't report. More subjective penalties like this helps the refs get their victory.
Is the NFL better when more players are injured? It may be a fool’s errand to try to minimize injuries but dumb conspiracies don’t fix that.
@@arthurdietrich placing weight on ankles could have been the illegal play - not removing the ability to drop the hipps to help a 185 lb corner bring down a 255 lb TE... And nowhere did I suggest not trying to minimize injuries.
Hi there, I left the chow line 5 years ago. I used to watch every minute I could have football on Sundays. Now I don’t even pay attention, catch some highlights or whatever recap if I’m bored. I used to go to 2-3 games a year, buy jerseys, haven’t since I stopped caring. I was a lifer for this sport. It really used to matter to me, butI can’t watch this product anymore. What it is and what it stands for do not align with me anymore.
A cape is wild 😂
I keep hearing everyone reference the Mark Andrews tackle but fail to mention that the NFL stated that that tackle ISN’T considered a “Hip Drop Tackle”.
It’s never been about safety. It’s all about touchdowns and eyes on tv
I hate that I like a game 3 to 7
You speak true "Marchan's Cape". Fuckin' love that visual. RN4L.
Chris is a gem.
In the clip you showed of Pollard getting tackled, what else can that defender really do? This is gonna force guys to aim low.
To balance things out get rid of the Mel Blount rule. Give them a chance it's not football
I like how Chris is talking.
As someone who played football and not even close the highest level i feel like it is a fatigue move. Can happen mid too late game. No one is trying to hurt a player but grabbing someone and sitting down will stop them lol. A lot of players just opt out of doing a full on tug of war trying to pull them down or back.
When Chris started going off on his "if it was about safety," rant i felt like an old southern black baptist woman with my hands raised yelling, "Preach it, honey!"
He's right its not about safety its about offense. Just like def holding 5 yards and a first down. Why is it a first down cause if he wasnt held he could have caught the ball. So why isnt off holding 5 yards and a loss of down? If he wasnt held it could have been a sack. Prime example of nfl wanting offense
The raiders just got a explosive dline the nfl ain’t slick. 😂😂😂 they tryna protect patty
Gambling is all that matters
That’s what keeps ratings up because the game is soft and garbage. Fantasy and gambling plus swifties now keep the illusion of high ratings. Like March madness. Nobody watches regular season college Bball. But the bracket entices people to watch more Then they would
Who can forget "In The Grasp?"
Why don’t they players sign waivers
I agree with him it’s not about safety it’s about favoring the offense more points means more viewers
the motivation is on safety, but only for star players. That's the difference. They don't want QB's WR's and star RB's getting hurt. everyone else is either defense (not exciting enough) or not important for jersey sales.
18:44 this is the painful unfortunate truth hits me too if we know about this rule we are in too deep and we ain’t gonna stop watching but i will turn if games start turning into back and forth scoring i like my games in the teens at most
Preach it Chris! The “weight on the quarterback rule” was a result of Tony Siragusa’s hit on Rich Gannon (and then bragging about it). Don’t get me wrong, I loved Goose as a player, but sometimes it’s better if you put a sock in it. BTW, RIP Tony.🙏🏻
That's Football though
The way you talked about this ongoing issue of: the nfl using safety as a scapegoat to make changes that intentionally inhibit defenders (and also will increase the pot of cash that they force those defenders to pay them) was the best I've seen. I'm frustrated with the 'this makes football soft' argument. That isn't the issue. Like you said, we, as fans, adapt to new rules quicker than we admit. The issue is that they are creating a situation where the offense has so many different avenues to beat a defense, while squeezing the options of a defender to a specific, defined action. Galaxy brain theory: defensive player's injury rates will increase in the next few years due to the increased difficulty of tackling the best athletes in the world, while that athlete has so few limitations. If that does happen, I doubt the NFL would be too inclined to make a 'safety' oriented rule change. Thanks for doing what you're doing Chris!
12:10 but the QB is a protected player behind the line of scrimmage and hes usually standing stationary in the pocket. Its different than trying to tackle some9ne whos at his full momentum in open space.
But there's a difference between most plays being outlawed like the horse collar and then this tackle because this is a normal tqckle
Aren't these rules proposed by teams? (sometimes competition committee) Also, it takes 24 of 32 teams to approve a rule....how can the "NFL" be blamed if it's the Owners who are voting/agreeing in mass-majority. It's the business owners changing the game to improve ratings/revenue. Owners are not the NFL in my opinion, players, coaches, and fans are the NFL.
Cause owners are 1 percent of who works in the nfl if not less than thay
Owners and nfl own everything as well lmao." You don't think absolute power corrupts absolutely"
They have to even things out. Example: allow DB's to jam 10 yards instead of 5 or make PI a 15 yard penalty like college because they are progressively making it ao easy for the offense. Also, as a former DB, there are definitely players that try to hurt other players and make it look innocent
Some of these players are so heavy, how are you suppose to tackle them???
Haven’t seen one person happy about this change
Oh bro there's some people who are happy about it most of em who never played the game before or people who are offensive minded this is definitely gonna make it hard on DBs tackling TEs and RBs and some WRs like DK Metcalf
@@DaDefense08facts the big guys should eat this coming season
Vontez Burfict did it to leveon bell in the past
This might be worst than the falling on the QB
Are the players involved in these meetings ? If not why is that? Wouldn’t it make sense to have the professional preforming the act voice their thoughts on the rules?
The owners voted on it during their annual meeting.
The advantage is to the offense at this point. If they keep this stuff up we're gonna need to have it. Legal to have 12 man defenses against 11 man offense just to make it fair.
4:24 Chris kind of missed the main point of the rule there. Like Rugby, it’s only a hip drop tackle (and penalty) if the tackler lands on the runner’s legs
Not true brotha
@@jasonmurdock6495 "ARTICLE 18. HIP-DROP TACKLE. It is a foul if a player uses the following technique to bring a runner to the ground: (a) grabs the runner with both hands or wraps the runner with both arms; and (b) unweights himself by swiveling and dropping his hips and/or lower body, landing on and trapping the runner's leg(s) at or below the knee."
@@wc6046but their examples didnt shown that.
@@marquesmurray I can't speak to which examples they did or did not choose to show, but I can say that people are getting overly worked up about something that happened less than once per game last year
If we wanted rugby we would watch rugby .
force + your body weight + someones body weight on your hip joints and knee joints and the awkward landing of knees on this tackle is a recipe for injury
This is impossible to try to manage, and it’ll end up being a tactic for the fix being in as a way to swing games or plays. It can’t be flagged consistently or fairly imo. Hope it doesn’t ruin the game
hipzdrop tackle.. when you send your body weight to the hip(which can injure you first) but drop your weight to pull the guy down.. the definition of a tackle per-rule to tackle now. vant go up can't go down so grab him, wrap him up, take him down.
If you think hip drop tackle is ok bring back brack back blocks since it don't matter if players get hurt from it
Defensive players should train judo and some wrestling in the off season.
18:47 i literally watch less football each year. I played arena and use to watch everything NFL. I didnt ecen watch th3 super bowl.
even if just the first few games no subscriptions nothing at least the first few games send a message.
Telling a guy(200lbs )not to use his body weight to tackle( 230lbs) is ludicrous first u stop defenders from separating receivers from the ball now this wat is the NFL doing
I'm betting the overs!!
The refs may end up just not calling it, because it's darn near impossible to see all three elements from the same vantage point (in addition to all the other problems). You may see some point of emphasis early in the season to make an example of people, but then stop calling it completely. then repeal it the next year. this wouldn't be the first time.
People point to the horse collar and facemask, and I see why. But the difference is like Chris says, almost every tackle is going to gravitate toward this situation by virtue of physics, not choice. I can choose not to grab a facemask or collar. But if I grab someone at the waist and they run any direction except directly into me, I will naturally spin around to the back of the player because geometry, and I will fall on their legs because of gravity. It's a movement that is created by almost every single tackling scenario except like Chris said, devastating human-missile blasts into guys' knees.
The rule basically states in my mind you can only tackle head on if the ball carrier or receiver is past you you can not tackle them from behind without being a penalty no hip drop no low hits no head hit so I you can tackle head on its a penalty so don't tackle anymore go straight for the ball
You gotta shoestring tackle but the hip drop is needed to stop forward progress. Sometimes the other team needs 1 yard you damn right I’m gonna hip drop Derek Henry.
Chris Long has really broke this Down.
What are the betting odds on the NFL literally going 2 hand touch in the next 10 years. I want to put $1000 on it. This is the first step. Watch. They want higher scoring and less injuries. It will happen.
It will be used to give KC or whatever other team with a popular QB, a need first down. Its a joke
Ain’t it crazy the raiders dline look crazy now they made this bs call it’s gonna be used to win a bunch of games
It’s about safety, but let’s add another game to the season
Facts they going start taking shots at knees & i even go one better dc going start telling defensive players to go high
When Aaron Rodgers broke his collarbone when a defender landed on top of him NFL changed the rules. Mark Andrews had a leg injury from #55 Wilson Bengals dropped on his lower leg, it seems like they're only interested in the star player's safety. The audience in the stadium and at home do not want to see backups on the field. It maybe results in lower ratings.
It won’t because this rule will make it easier for offensive players in general including backups they just want more scaring they don’t care about the safety
Subjective calls cause inconsistency.
The hip drop tackle isn’t a thing it’s not a thing or is defined anywhere at all it’s too subjective and I can’t see how the refs are going to get this right
Man this hip-drop tackle business is ultra lame.
Every TE and RB will pop off next year. Refs will be getting NFC and AFC player of the month.
Its B.S and on top of that its always the Defense. Like JJ said, change cutting Dlinemen in their legs..its dangerous but its almost like you dont care about that.
I have not watched a Game in years at this point. I stopped watching awhile ago simply bc of how much Tribalism has infiltrated the NFL (and all Sports tbh). But also....because of the Refs...there has been a Downward Trend with Refs the past decade...and I keep up with news like this bc I find it fascinating...Doesn't mean I will be watching a Game.
I agree ppl gonna start going for knees now smh this rule is dumb i predict more injuries
Someone please pull the numbers on fines for the offense vs defense. Pollard went down and Jerry flipped his cookie and this rule feels retaliatory. It"s easy for me to tune out because my team is small market and i'm not local. NBA was pretty bulletproof and look at the view numbers today. NFL wont feel it immediately, maybe 5 years from now when they can't break 10 million.
It might be fair IF the Ball carrier had to stop and fall to the ground when touched .... ridiculous idea ? Exactly ..
Players start their own league
I love flag football. Really, I do. It is also a different game.
I actually still like defensive games but didn’t two teams score over 60 like the nfl need to stop with some of these changes. I do like the refs getting officiated that’s a good call.
Stupid new rule that continue to water-down and destroy the game. Tell me this; How many "Hip-Drop Tackles" would have been called on defenders trying to tackle Earl Campbell, Walter Payton, Jim Brown and Barry Sanders??? Like 1 million calls! Totally ridiculous!! 🏈🏉
If we’re worried about players safety why are we still playing our games on turf?? Lol
Couldn’t have said it better ACL related knee injuries will likely rise this year due to this rule it’s not about safety it’s covering the NFL from litigation in the future like we banned that it’s not allowed can’t sue us now over it
what is the actual penalty? 5 yards? 15? what?
Good job NFL for making the game safer I love the new rule
U sarcastic right
The NFL becomes harder and harder to watch every year. This also is going to make the league look even more rigged. Way easier to affect the game with a super ambiguous new penalty.
I feel like it makes the nfl more like wwe in terms of acting. We’re going to have to watch guys chase a receiver down but let them go because they could tackle them but won’t because it’s a hip drop
Just put flags on players if you are banning tackling
I think it's easy to enforce, if it's dangerous and you land on his leg then its a penalty
Every tackle is dangerous. And if u aim for the hips which is where they teach u and your behind the guy u will most likely land on their legs
They do all this but still let the MetLife have the worst field in sports. That field has injured much more people than that tackle
Couldn't the NFL put a "grade" on the "Hip Drop Tackle" much like Facemasks and Roughing vs Running into the Kicker penalties. If it's "Flagrant" then 15 yards, else 5 yards?
Facemasks are all 15 yards now
Just give everyone flags to pull and if they get tackled it’s a 10 yard penalty. When players don’t even know what the nfl is talking about, it’s gonna be stupid ugly when flags get pullled for what looks like.... a tackle.