JJ Watt GETS HEATED At People Calling For NFL To Ban "Hip Drop Tackles" | Pat McAfee Show
2023 ж. 12 Жел.
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It’s funny how the NFL is hellbent over banning all these tackles that not one NFL player is complaining about but won’t touch the issue on banning turf when almost every player complains about it.
Turf is cheaper for owners. No reason to beat around the bush here
There’s not too many jobs where the employers listen to the employees.
Banning tackles, but allowing domestic abusers continue to play* Edit: Tyreek Hill. Idgaf what records he breaks he's a POS.
It would be phenomenal if a high-profile NFL player saw this comment and began to recite it Word for Word at all of their press conferences for the rest of the year before just walking off stage.
It’s a business decision. Star players sell tickets so they’re protecting them. It makes sense even though it doesn’t make sense
It's crazy that we get to watch football destroy itself in real time.
Oh it is happening and its sad.. Flag Football in the Olympics is the sign for the future, it's all headed to just lame 7 on 7 with no physicality.
Let’s see you go out there. Easy to say from our couch.
@@greenhillscustomlawncarell1139 ?? Get out where? On the field? What does that have to do with bad rule changes?
@@greenhillscustomlawncarell1139what a dumb and useless comment
More popular than ever though. So I am sure the higher upside don't see anything as 'ruined' about it.
The NFL thinks they can stop injuries and the funny thing is with all their precautions we're on the 60th QB starting this year.
Guys used to play on carpet on cement slabs and there weren’t this many injuries
That’s wild, I didn’t realize that
This has nothing to do with stopping QB injuries though.
@@snakezula That's true, but it just shows you, despite the complete overhaul of rules about the QB, the league still loses like 30% of its QBs every year.
JJs segment has quickly become such a highlight of the show every week
I swear these guys are going to turn JJ into the incredible hulk pushing his buttons 😂
It's like JJ gets more and more angry each week and I love it 😂😂
Don't make him angry.......you wouldn't like him when he's angry..........
Let's ban certain tackles because they're dangerous, but continue to have dangerous surfaces that our players break their ligaments and bones on almost every single week. It makes no sense to me. Not to mention, just having to play on a short week (sometimes two or three timers per year) is also contributing to a lot of injuries, but they won't do anything about that either.
Well, we are talking about a league that has systematically tweaked rules for decades to favor passing while simultaneously parsing what constitutes a catch to the point of absurdity. This is on brand.
simply put, they want more offensive production at any cost, while limiting their overhead costs by using crappy turf. Mecedes Benz Stadium in 2026 will switch the turf out for real grass for the the fifa cup, then they are going to take the grass back out and put turf back in. Ridiculous.
Players can get hurt on any surface, turf grass concrete glass. I’ve been saying a hip drop tackle isn’t good since dak got his ankle sniped against the giants. It’s basically a defender wrapping up around their neck and dropping their weight which ultimately goes into the players ankles and knees resulting in injury. Just like we got rid of facemask tackles and horse collar tackles too
But one is for more money
I’ve often wondered why they dont bring back “in the grasp.” A defender is stuck between a large QB or RB being allowed to escape or drag them for additional yards or taking them down in a harsh manner. The leagues desire for yards after initial stoppage leads to these tackles.
Don’t go low, don’t go high, don’t lead with helmet, don’t hit their helmet, no horse collar, no hip drop. Good luck to defense.
Don't touch the WR, don't hit them when they go across the middle. Wait until they catch before hitting them. Don't tackle the QB High or low or with your body weight. It's getting ridiculous
NFL will be national Flagfootball league soon enough
Soon to be playing with tin foil hats and wearing bras.. While giving out hugs and kisses on the field
Might as well be at this point. With the addition of flag football in the Olympics, it could be coming soon
NFFL
@@AttilatheThrilla we could call it sarcastaball
CTE will eventually be the cause for all contact sports to be eliminated. So obvious
The NFLs best days are long gone
I remember watching Pros vs Joes . The guy (s) they had trying to tackle former Falcon Jamal Anderson didn't stand a chance and even as a 50 yr old man Herschel Walker was still running guys over so just imagine how hard it is to tackle a NFL player in their prime
what if the defense gave up hip drop tackles and the offense stopped targeting the defense with their helmets?
Defense: "THEYTOOKOURJOBS!"
It's DeyTookRJobs!!!!!!!
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Glad he called out the NFL's hypocrisy of playing on Thursdays. It's all such bs.
One of my favorite sports shows to watch. Living for Toxicity and violence they choose. The Lou Holtz interveing Lou Holtz may absolute favorite
Derrick Henry is officially untackleable if they "outlaw" that lol
NFL becoming the NBA- All Offense No Defense
So you can't "horse collar" and now they want to ban "hip dropping" (otherwise known as "tackling")...so how exactly are you supposed to tackle someone from behind without giving up 15 extra yards on every play? I guess they have to start putting flags on the offensive players...
For those who don’t know, what they are calling a “hip drop tackle” is when a player wraps up a player and then sits down essentially. SOMETIMES it can catch feet which SOMETIMES leads to injury. Completely braindead to even consider banning it, especially when the only alternative is perfect form wrestling takedown tackles. Everyone is so soft, this is such a joke
Let’s not pretend that NFL players do proper form tackling anyway. 99% of all tackles you see are just a dude shoulder checking someone.
@@kman9884 Yeah because if they do damn near anything other than hit with a shoulder they get penalized and fined.
Broke my ankle from a hip drop tackle
@FO1692 maybe you should've been faster 😂
@@ZedzDed311 Didn't a hip drop tackle take out Bo Jackson?
It already feels like watching a fixed boxing match
It’s a tackle. Defenses are already hamstringed with all the rules. They would be dumb to ban the hip drop
Tell em JJ!!! MUCH RESPECT!!!❤❤❤
Welcome to the average man’s workforce JJ. Decisions being made by people that have never dont the job.
Most rules changes lately are specifically aimed at weakening the defense. Hate it. But love JJ's shirt!
The referees should focus on: if the swivel hip-drop tackle was necessary to bring the player down or not. If it wasn't necessary, then it should be a penalty.
2 hands tag!! Hell yeah
Butkus,Deacon Jones,Nitschke,Night Train Lane,and Jack Tatum are all spinning in their graves right now.........
the players assoc. sued the NFL over concussions and are now confused about these rule changes, wild.
Hip Drop tackles are something that got banned in rugby league a few years back. from then to now the same conversation you guys had over this are had here in australia about the rugby league Hipdrops, there is still alot of confusion... there is proof that it causes injuries, but there's also others that aren't dangerous that get called. Importantly in both sports the tackle wasn't an issue until other types of tackles were banned and that happened because of court cases against various leagues for not protecting players enough. It sucks but so does having your leg broken so its an unsolvable problem
When you watch professional football players utilize this tackle you can see them look at the legs before they throw their body weight at them. They never stay back to make sure the player is okay after they've injured them. It's almost always intentional.
Hey you’re saying something smart watch out the white people wont be able to understand
"unsolvable" 😂 don't want YOUR leg broken? Don't play a game with a ball and tackling.... Don't change the rules of the game. The fans shouldn't lose out because the league wants to keep high profile faces. It's football
@@eats4cheaps305 they aren't intentionally trying to injure them... They're trying to tackle them by any means. It's football. They don't have to play. They all go to college and have a chance for a degree. They all make plenty of money to only play a year or 2 and get a real job.... They all have the choice to leave. Dont change the rules of a game that fans love.
@@thomasdanley7642 i would almost completely agree, but unfortunately all the former players who have sued the leagues they used to play in because they got injured means leagues have had to act this way.
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Love JJ's flabbergasted response. That seems appropriate.
JJ's face when Pat is explaining the tackle :D
They need to narrow the field to give the defense some advantage
AJ looks so pleased someone besides him is saying this out loud.
Watt said don't piss on me and tell me it's raining son
Love JJ!! So real always have been
When these topics come up, my first thought is the South Park "Sarcastaball" episode.
I am more worried about the turf. I had to give up all my rec sports in my 40s because running around on that concrete with the shredded up tire bits, my knee felt like it was going to blow out from the inside
The NFL needs to be very careful to not entirely ruin the sport, because some would argue it’s already there… but if you can’t grab somebody and try to fall down with them… what are we allowed to do
We’re on the road to having puppy bowls every week.
I didn't know what a hip drop tackle was till this video and had to Google it. My take is this and quoting from Denzel in Remember The Titans.... "Let the boys play! "
1:55 JJ Watt saying the Quiet Part out loud
AJ over there laughing in complete agreement
This is more proof that the nfl doesn’t care and is not going to fix the officiating issues. If they really wanted to fix it, they wouldn’t be adding more rules that will make the refs job harder.
Watching this I only have 1 thought.. We will have to endure Roger's dumb rule changes, but after the Goodell era I'm hoping we get an actual former NFL player as a commish
Warren Sharp didn't make up the term, it comes from the NRL - the Rugby League competition in Australia/New Zealand. What people advocating for hip drop rules won't tell you is that when the NRL made rules about it, they fucked it up so badly that they had to change their interpretations mid-season. Simple tackles where the ball carrier made a half break but couldn't get completely free of the tackler ended up getting called 'hip drops' because the ball carrier's momentum fighting through contact swung the tackler into the ball carriers legs. Also worth noting that it was only necessary to bring those rules into Rugby League because of other stupid rules encouraging players to be held up and then brought to ground with precision timing to benefit the defense (giving more time for them to get set for the next play). The NFL does not have this situation as there is a definitive stop to play after a tackle is made (and the defense doesn't have to drop back 10 metres after every play), so there is no inherent incentive to perform a hip drop, unlike in Rugby League. It's just a totally different situation. It's just not worth opening a can of worms for a play that isn't actually a systemic problem in the NFL. If it does happen, the way they define hip drops has to be very narrow criteria (completely stopped momentum, initial contact above the waist, drops weight directly and forcefully onto the ball carriers lower body after momentum has stopped - ALL OF THOSE THINGS NEED TO BE PRESENT) with a very high bar, basically only for plays that the defender could reasonably only be trying to hurt the ball carrier.
At this rate, the NFL will help the fans move away from watching it.
Sorry i played ball for ages and never employed a hip drop tackle. Didn’t really ever experience one either. It’s the same argument of the horse collar. Slippery slope fallacy.
Anyone else hear Freddie Prinze Jr's voice when JJ talks?? Lol I just noticed it
Its gonna move to practice rules, two hands on a QB in the pocket is a sack, and basically any tackling is going to be flagged 🤷♂This is America. its about the money, not the game, or the players, or the fans.
i kinda disagree.. its def about the money, but also kinda about the players... the NFL realizes that the product that they put out weekly, diminishes when star players get hurt, so the solution it to figure out how to not let them get hurt
@@prestoBMXsonly a complete buffoon would think you can stop guys from getting injured in a contact sport
The problem is not the form of the tackle; the problem is the ground. Earth and grass minimize injuries, across the board. If the league *truly* cared about player safety, in any small way, they would eliminate artificial surfaces.
Doesn’t “turf” cause more injuries than tackling?
Sounds like something arbitrary that the Referees will call whenever the wrong team is doing well. Football without violence is boring
Insane!
NFL need to listen to this
I came here to see a demo of a 'hip drop tackle' ... I didn't see one, c'mon!! :p
More than 40 years of legislating the FOOTBALL out of football. No wonder so many of us only rarely tune in anymore.
I love how pissed jj is he didn’t give af about being political with the league
That's the tackle that has caused everything gruesome leg break. That's how Jordan Travis broke his leg, and I saw a close call today.
It's a variation of the "turd-drop tackle" just a little less nasty..People have been known to slip and get hurt on those things.
Spot on take!
JJ was seeing Red lol
Countdown to when defenses just become holograms that simulate a defense.
These alligator rolls are trending, busting ankles all over.
everyone was glad JJ was on the other side of the camera, he was getting riled up.
They should just ban all tackles and Qb sneaks
If you don't want to get hit or hurt playing football then you always have the option to slide and give yourself up. The NFL won't turn into flag football, it's going to turn into the NBA. Casual viewers don't care about sports, they just want to see scoring.
it may as well already be with all the ticky tacky nonsense as far as holding etc
It’s like that episode from South Park
Let's just ban all tackling. That'll work.
How do get a player down if they ban most forms of stopping the offense.
sooner or later ur gonna have to let them walk in the endzone😂
“Player safety” is ruining the NFL and it’s disgusting. The NFL is already unrecognizable from what it was 10 years ago
It’s gonna be very soon NFFL National Flag Football League.
It is funny when you see rich folks have to deal with bureaucratic/managerial shlt that we have to deal with on a daily basis.
Ok that was great.
Might as well give the defenders pomps so that they can cheer for the other side.
why does j j watt look like hes in grade 9 .. he looks like a cop going undercover as a highschool student
If that doesn't justify excessive pay raises, then what does?🙄
Lets just ban defense all together.
They’ve been a thing in rugby league in Australia for the last two years. Only difference is NRLs definition is weight onto the back of the legs. NFL I think is worried about weight on the side of the legs. By the way the enforcement of hip drop tackles in the NRL hasn’t gone particularly well
it would be even worse on the NFL as there’s already a ton of rules that skew the game in the offense’s favor. Football today is night and day to what it was even 10-15 years ago it’s a damn shame
This is like a few years ago when then NFL didn't know what a catch was. It's going to be a highly debatable rule that can't be called consistently because it's too vague.
I know there’s a real conversation going on… but all I can notice is JJ having more of a filter on his face than an Instagram model. 😂
Yeah J.J. is right. "This former player that we've paid says its a problem"
It's easy, go look up the tackle that knocked out Riley Leonard's season (Duke QB playing Notre Dame). That's a hip drop tackle.
they tracked injures and 1 in 10 hip tackles results in the offensive player getting injured
Beautiful del boca vista shirt.
If they don't know what a hip drop tackle is, and don't believe it's a thing, why are they complaining about it being removed? it's like a kid complaining about not being allowed to do something they never tried.
I feel like JJ right here looks like Pat and AJ Hawk combined, anybody else see this?
Fantastic answer. You can tell he is passionate about it. He should be one of the people that makes the decision moving forward
I know what he wants to say about the former players that allow this crap. "Smells like corruption, man."
I don’t know if you can do that but it is nasty when you see someone get immediately yanked down from behind and the knees get ripped apart. Same reason horse collar got banned. But I mean.. how do you bring someone down from behind without dropping your weight down?
Main rule that needs to be removed is the slide rules. If a qb runs he gets the same treatment a rb, wr, or anyone else gets. Once they end that bs then we'll see how many of these mobile qbs really turn out.
the slide rule on paper is fine, the problem is late slides and how determining if it was too late or not is subjective and difficult at game speed
Slides are fine but the roughing the passer calls have gotten outrageous.
Half the times qb’s don’t start the slide til after the defensive player launches. It’s ridiculous
Not sure if you know this but any player carrying the ball can slide or kneel to “down” themselves or “give up”. Not just the QB. Might wanna look it up. I dont understand your argument for a rule that literally exists for everyone.
@@Helmet_Head_ yep that’s the rule anybody can give themselves up. Glad you pointed that out.
“Hands to the face”, except if you have the ball you can punch a defenders facemask
Yo pat, is espn making you wears shirts now?
The tackle starts high but the ball carrier keeps moving, and you get stuck on the “love handles”! The NFL wants to ban LOVE JJ
need to have practices and training camp to be allowed to actually get guys ready for the contact of football
As soon as one thing is banned there’s upsurge’s with other injuries , Splain that .
Jj should be the commissioner
Up next: should boxing remove punches?
What they need to do is ban turf but they don’t want to address that…
Kinda the reason why I think miami is doing so well. feels like their offense is geared towards taking advantage of the "safer" rules. It used to be if you lived in the middle of the field you were running the risk of not having humans left to play wide receiver by the end of the season. I also think last week was like the lower leg injury bowl or something. People were dropping like flies. And I'm sure someones gonna get paid to say tackle technique is the reason and not blame the turf on the field.
Of course they take advantage.. Did belichek use welker for any other reason that just an a few years earlier the Ronnie lott's of the world would have ended his career after a few games. No team had guys who could cover a shifty guy like that, but they would taken his head off 2hich kept them from trying. Same with the dolphins... The reason you uave so many supernfast guys is that years ago, they'd be out of the game by the second half.
The dolphins also really exploit the pull block and do a lot of screens. They just utilize speed and it’s literally a baby niners offense essentially. Go back and look at that Niners vs GB NFC champ game when they had like 300 rushing yards as a team or whatever… the scheme is nearly identical in Miami still. The pass blocking for miami isnt great but those guys are elite and know the system when it comes to the run game and getting out in space for screens. Also its more so the utilization of motion presnap, mcdaniel literally tries to have somebody motion every play, exposes what the defense is running, confuses the defense of how they should continue to run the play, and gives their guys with 4.2 speed a running start at snap.
@@MrCtateoeh there has always been fast guys who were elite, id say speed has always been the go to weapon out wide, route running wasnt even really a thing in OG days of football, some guys definitely brought a level of it and showcased that with it you can overcome being slower like Largent, Fred Belitnekoff. But id say cliff Branch, Lynn Swann they were just high flyers that would win go balls more than theyd lose them, which is also evident in the completion percentages back in the day hovering around 50% more often than the NFL new standard of like 65ish% being the goal percentage to hover around. Even the 80s the routes werent crazy if you go back and watch tape its like the only double move routes were stutter and gos, sluggos, whip/zig routes and post corners. Now a days its clear they stem a route stab step a double move break but then will head fake the break the opposite way.
They’re just looking for more ways to selectively choose the winners of each game with penalties that could be called on every play