INVENTOR BUILDS Breakthrough MOTOR - IS it REAL!?
2023 ж. 7 Қаз.
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Focused Energy has designed a halbach array coiled motor. It potentially be could one of the lightest, more powerful electric motors. But taking it one step further, can we actually build a magnet free motor?
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Fascinating, never heard of many of those types of motor design, thank you for the intro
The visualization at the end with the rotating magnetic fields looks amazing, the fields look like turning gears
Wait till you hear about magnetic gears...
Thank you. Love the info you share. Keep going sir, nice job
Your spot on with regard to power efficency. Perhaps the claims relate to the efficency of the magnetic force. Focusing the magnetic force improves the efficency of the magnetic materials used in the motor (not the power efficency of the motor).
Great analysis- hopefully someone figures out the "right components" and makes it all work.
They won't. It's just snake oil.
Variable excitation has been around on generators for a long time, so it makes sense to try and use it in motors
Great explanation the incredible idea! Thank a lot!!!
Electric coils will always have more power density. The rotational torque conversion to work done is the trick. This design is on the right path. Thanks for the vid. Subbed.
Thanks for the info!
@@Tech_Planet This is interesting, everyone copies each other waiting for someone to come up with a new idea and steal that new idea and claim it for themselves. This all goes back to a robot from 1980 found and disappeared with advanced capabilities, it was basically walking down the street hidden, observing to humans in their habitat and they managed to obtain data on their anatomy. But this robot magically disappeared. The data collected on its operation was incomplete but sufficient to investigate and spend millions of dollars. Until now, drone technology and artificial muscles were born. air that until now have come to nothing and the motor is brushless, but the human intellect had a limit like that of any animal and they could not understand many things, the motor with a larger perimeter with the same energy was slower and consumed gigantic amounts of electricity, basically you need a tow truck for the batteries or a long plug, this means that this motor that we see from the Chinese, if it were real, is very slow and a power plant would be needed to give it energy, it could also be a copy of an engine that was never real that appeared in a popular mechanic in 1960, analyzing the Chinese engine apart from its slowness, if it were real, it would last running for a few seconds since the plastic structure would melt due to the heat...therefore it is It's a fraud, it's a chimera, it's like the fantastic Chinese plasma engine that everyone talks about and promotes. This supposed plasma engine doesn't push grams, it pushes tons. The problem is that there are no photos, drawings or videos. It's just Chinese propaganda.
@@Tech_Planet The motor is fake, the transparent plastic gives it away, it melts, it is plastic for a 3D printer and those coils will heat up to more than 90 degrees.
@@gatoninja4387 or it can just be a demonstration model in that image rather than actual product
@@fakestory1753 If you analyze with Photoshop you will realize that 1 single coil has more copper than 5 percussion drills, I mean we are talking about a motor with extreme heat and slowness if it were real and to coordinate those coils you would need an ESC the size of a tower PC and To supply that with electricity you would need a mini power plant because the electrical network of a house would not be enough. Most likely, as you say, it is a model taken from the Internet. The Chinese government has infiltrated a team of Western scientists or inventors in each team. spy who copies the invention and sends it to China but they have no idea how they work or the criteria of the inventions, it takes them decades to do reverse engineering and then they are awarded it or they create incredible news about inventions that there are no photos or videos
Nice animations sir. Makes it easier to understand what you are trying to teach. Thank you Tech Planet. Very helpful.
So interesting. . . . can't wait to see what advanced A.I. comes up with for a motor in the future.
It's a step in the right direction.Little by little we learn and move ahead.Great vid!
Just keep politics out of it. Progress will be possible.
I love the electric motor technology, the more efficient, more power that is being achieved. Wish I was an expert in the technology with access to all the resources to try and out-do what's already been done. Curious if you can compare Elon Musk's latest motor with (I think) rotated magnets, and carbon wrapped armature to prevent it from flying apart at 15,000 rpms. Thanks for the video. And, yeah, I am a little tires of people talking about the latest technology when it only runs at -300C or some such terribly cold and impossible circumstance for reality.
I was immediately asking the same question as you did "what kind of electric motor has only 50% efficiency?", it's a well known fact, that the motor of an average BEV already has an efficiency of over 90%.
The motor itself sure, but as of now the total system efficiency of a Tesla is around 80% and Tesla has the most efficient motor used in a electric vehicle currently. The motor is 97% efficient and the rest is system losses bringing it down to 80%
Any engineer that designs electric motors with just 50% efficiency wouldn't keep his job very long. Electric motors and Electrical transformers are some of the most efficient machines that have ever been produced. Anyone attempting to make them even more efficient are just hitting their heads against a brick wall.
@@KenFullman motor will burn very quickly
@@KenFullman 30 40 years ago whenever I ordered a “AC” motor the P.F. was very important. The P.F. Now days is much smaller.
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Ten years ago I designed a Disk-Motor, on office word 12 coils of copper wire at the centre with twin discs each side of it. These carried permanent magnets which fitted to the centre shaft or drive shaft. The centre coils affected opposite poles each side of the drive disks. Then it vanished from the computer I was using? # ! This shows how the human collective mind can be picked up by others. The main thing is that we are very close to getting it right. Love it, thanks.
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Hmm... thats like saying 2000w Wind Turbine - without stating at what wind speed do you need to achieve that, and how efficient is it at converting the available power in the wind. If a wind turbine needs a friggin storm to make it 2000w then they are not technacally lying lol... so yes "double the efficiency - compared to what?" good point
@DITECOProjects - Have you seen the guy in Shetland who uses a small rotary kite to get 450 watts" I am sure that he could easily get 2000 watts if he went for centripital rather than centrifugal flow.
@@christopherd.winnan8701 yeah, ive seen the video. Interesting isnt it. It seems using it to waisted on as torque.
@@DiyEcoProjects Have you had any thoughts on effective ways to funnel such a wind stream? What would be the optimal geometries for the vortex?
@@DiyEcoProjects I assumed by the fact you were replying to KZhead comments meant that you were quite happy to invest your time in related conversations. That and your moniker. I did not realise that there was going to be a selection process.
@@christopherd.winnan8701 The onus is on you, as you initiated the conversation. From the previous message it appears you are asking me to do the research for you. Is this the case?
I am glad you asked what they were comparing it to. The first question I had when reading the title was "compared to what?" because I knew electric motors aren't that inefficient.
I want to see this crossed with a multi layer axial flux motor design now, I bet the performance would be insane
your right except it would require rethinking the cheapest ways to mass produce them! That's the key!
No, it wouldn't
How? There is not much percent left to gain.
Isn't the whole point of axial flux that you can have a stator in the middle sandwiched between two rotors, meaning you want the electromagnetic force going out both sides to both rotors? It sound like using a halbach electromagnet would actually perform worse. This would only be good for radial flux it seems.
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Thanks for the vid, lots of similar ideas have been in my head for a while now and learning to try draw up some designs using finite element analysis software which can really help to visualise how it all works, all seems like a very promising direction for things in future.
This is called an asynchronous motor commonly used in industrial applications to adjust power factor in generation
Amazing video wanna see more like this
I am just amazed that the world has been using efficient motor design for over a hundred years. What the hell took them so long to wise up ??? BRING ON THE EFFICIENT MOTORS !!!!!!
Thanks. I learned something!
I am impressed by the video👍
Allsome work from cruzermans inventions 😁👍🎉🌟🦇
I like motors. They are cool.
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Experiment's are good. 👍👊🤘✌
Smart thanks man
Thank you for sharing. I am for 9 years EUC rider and just wait the producers to make new engine that makes the Electric unicycle lighter and consuming less electricity
Bro the invention of new type of energy not like electricity ❤
Try adding a fractal capacitor array to drive the halbach motor design . Just might help to reduce some of the copper and current losses.
At the University of Alaska Fairbanks research to find a propulsion system is underway using a portion of the Halbach Array called the London Assemblage Configuration. A prototype has been built at the University.
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Is it double the efficiency of current motors on the market that size that don't need supercooling?
Even more interested in how this could possibly affect electrical generation? If you can use the hall effect to produce a more efficient electric motor, it only stands to reason you could use exactly the same thing to produce a more efficient generator. A more efficient generator can convert more mechanical energy into electrical current
Great video loved the visuals sucked me right in. tractor beam. Gonnna have to watch it 5 more times to understand it. Got the jist tho. Nèed to brush up on super conductor.
What is the point of irritating background music throughout? It's not how we listen to people or lectures.
I like the background music, but he's right, keep the music for video transitions and self-describing animations
Most people are simpletons. You can't watch any entertainment now without music. Most people don't like to think, so it distracts them. Music keeps them relaxed like rocking a baby and keeps the painfulness of thought away.
There is nothing wrong with the background music
⬆️ this is why there is bg music in all these videos where there shouldn’t be… But it adds high frequency over his low voice with little excitement or emotional ranges aside from squeaking for some reason. This steady speaking with no pauses , breathing or changing… is hypnotic and can put people to sleep too. I find it extremely annoying but this is precisely why it’s there. To keep you engaged. And not clicking away… only certain people find it intolerable. I about clicked away tho. Just because of it. I don’t like anything subliminal or designed for specific things. Lol who would of thought putting elevator music as bg music as a good thing ? Pied piper effect 🤔
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More advanced electric motors need to get rid of permanent magnets and windings and make them more simplified and robust.
I converted a small pickup to "Series-Wound" DC electric in 2007 (Note: Lead acid batteries suck and weigh too much. Nothing else was really available then, at my price point). One of the things I learned, was that the coils on the armature could come apart, if the armature RPM exceeded 4000 rpm. What has been done to hold the armature coils together under these conditions? I would imagine that the various magnetic fields cause flex in coils over time (which is why they're wound so tightly, and glued). Comments? Thanks.
It is just an engineering solution for coil structure. Coils do flex, but as before, an engineering application. All good stuff for people who like to be challenged!
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I liked your video! Earlier I was watching Alexander Graham Bell's Tetrahedral Kite!!! Have a Royal Purple Day!!!
An axial motor with a halbach focused magnetic array would be super compact, and efficient, even without super-conducting.
I believe A KZheadr made one already. I don't remember his channel currently tho:\
Really good video. Wish i knew more than my sophmore level of electric motor function. Wond e ring whether long stroke linear motors might have unexpected advantages? Think of a solenoid a mile long; and a hundred miles long; and ten thousand miles long, located in space.
I’ve been seeing things on iron nitride magnets. Which are supposed to be as good as neodymium at half the price?
God loves the person who spreads knowledge among people. Continue this good work
I'm gonna be honest if you're trying to get a really efficient motor You need a coil and capacitor that is as close to the same value as possible. And then with a pulse width modulator or a control module. you can pulse it at the frequency so you can get very high torque. But we've gotten away from that. Even though Nikols Tesla showed us the true popencil of capacitor and coil resonant frequency oscillations.
so if I have a design that is similar but much easier to build, maintain, and service, what should I do?
If the stator & the rotor are both coils, can the same AC current be looped thru both?
I like the music too!
The wind always blows (not in the same place, of course) so the trick is to choose the correct places to install the Wind Farms
Motor efficiency is confusing unless you look at it the other way around, as a percentage of waste heat. 94% efficiency means 6% waste, so a 3% improvement in efficiency from there is actually cutting your waste in half.
Which is already negligible
@@benoitavril4806it's negligible unless you just so happen to need that extra 18km to reach the next EV charging station
@@benoitavril4806 Depends on whether weight is important (e.g. electric aircraft). Small improvements in efficiency can greatly increase the usable power, or conversely reduce the weight of the motor for the same power.
@@vueport99 or you are taking the sum total of losses from a million cars driving 20,000 km a year.
The idea is probably made obsolete by axial flux motors which don't need to project their field quite as far from the stator. You can use the induction trick with axial motors too if you want to eliminate permanent magnets and easily implement regen braking by boosting rotor current to bump back-EMF up to battery voltage at whatever current is desired.
Thanks for pointing these things out. I was just going to add how I managed to make a magnet attract itself to a steel shielding plate blocking a magnets field which would have repelled it, then with its momentum it moved past the attracting point to where the repulsive forces on the other side took over, and this magnet did attract then repel ITSELF past the other Magnet, due to focusing the shape of the field to be asymmetrical. Soon I plan to resume working on that, and I like the ideas you pointed out here, I may just combine all of these together, and make my next design(s), thank you! Oh and I should add how you can use Pyrolytic Carbon to always repel a magnetic field, along with Soft Iron/Steel in order to compress and attract the field, combined with Halbach Arrays, to make magnetic motors/generators even more efficient. I am working on mine, and calling it the "Mag-Gen Motor/Generator", for Magnetic-Generator. I also have another design using rotating magnets on gears, with iron plates to block the fields between them for half the rotation on one side and the other half on the other side, so the forces between round magnets will cause the maximum torque thus power output on both sides almost 100% of the time (a small bit less). This I think will gain the most electrical power that is possible from between Permanent Magnets. I think there are better ways to obtain energy from the Fluctuations in Earths Magnetic field and Ionosphere like Nikola Tesla's Wardenclyffe Project was going to do, or from the "quantum foam" like a NASA Eagle Works patent I saw (but is THAT one Real? IT could derive enough energy to vaporize any material I think!).
What is the best kind of motor to generate electricity from Water spinning a shaft?
@@MrEagleeye58 An external excitation synchronous motor/generator is the easiest and most reliable way to go about it in most cases where you need regulated output. Most power on the grid generated by rotating machines is handled this way.
@@teardowndan5364 Ah so most people use a Car Alternator, if you generating power from hydro what would you get that is readily available. Or would you simply use a car alternator and simply put a few of them on the same shaft?
@@MrEagleeye58 If you hack an alternator to substitute your own higher-voltage diodes, you can get 50+V out of them to directly charge a 16S 48V LFP pack and get 3-4X as much power per alternator.
Innovation in terms of electric motor is essentially a question of design, since they all run with Laplace force. Now going from 90 to 95% might seem futile, it depends on the power range and rpm over which it can operate, and what's the specific power the motor can sustain.
Forget superconduction, concentrate on enhanced conductors. "Let not the perfect be the enemy of the good!"
That motor sounds very much like an alternator as far as cooling forced air or copper tubing around stator with fluid like antifreeze pumped through in a closed loop would probably work best
what about the electric resistance after using cryocooler. what's the power loss
Very interesting - in the future, please. please. please could you make a how to video on how to order PCB stators from Print on demand companies like PCBway. Their quote application form is quite complicated, but filling it in teaches you a lot about axial flux motors. Maybe a video run through of how to order a PCB stator will be a good opportunity to break down all the different aspects....
'can we actually build a magnet free motor?' As if there haven't been magnet free motors for decades :D
@Modelights : The behavior of magnet : like sign (+ & + ... or - & - ) = repulsion/ push effect... Unlike sign = attraction/ pulling effect.. In short, the magnet have "natural pressure" push/ pull effect, with fellow magnet... Inventors, engineers, etc. simply utilized such "magnet behavior" , convert it to mechanical action- the result, the common electric engine, using elec' to produced strong magnetic field... Almost all modern engines/ machines are "pressure" operated- such pressure coming from : magnetic field, fuel detonation, winds, waters, gravity (hydro. electric dam), boiling water, photo. electric, etc..
@@arielhermoso4262 LOL As if I need someone who understands far less than me to 'explain' motors to me. Remove your head from your rear. The video said 'magnet free motors', as if there haven't been motors that operated with stator coils instead of magnets since the early beginnings of motors.
Next rotate the individual Hallbach configurations
Thanks! Long way to go! Would be nice to get away from rare earth material.
You and Cedric Lynch would get on well! The Idea of Halback coils instead of magnets is intriguing but wouldn't one induce current into the other if their currents were fluctuating and wouldn't that induce and cause back EMF?
Well, the back EMF is driven by the magnetic fields from the rotor. These magnetic fields aren't aligned with the rotor magnetic fields in the same way, so I would expect the back EMF to be small compared to the axially aligned coils...
Or not!
I super conduct when I rub my feet on carpet and touch a door knob.😅
I wonder if it needs a special driver to energize the side-facing coils with the correct polarity, or if it's wound in a way that it "just works".
Wound so it just works, there is no point in anything else as it always needs to be on together.
Still, it’s worth getting a look at and seeing if it has a real world application.
Finally, someone did it
really cool find
Yes. But can I plug my fridge into it?
Good job
My bet on magnetless motors is carbon nanotube windings. Carbon is so much lower density than copper, even matching the conductivity would be a huge improvement. And if a halbach stator is already worth doing, it will be even better when you're replacing heavy iron with lightweight carbon.
Great point!
@dekutree64 : So, your idea is to replace the iron core of the elec. motor, with that of nano carbon- just coating the iron core with nano carbon, or 100% replacement of said iron core, by nano carbon materials?... Is the said nano carbon a good magnetic materials- identical to iron when it comes to magnetic field induction?...Is such nano carbon a good conductor of elec'ty , like gold, silver, copper, aluminum, etc...
@@arielhermoso4262 I mean constructing the motor almost entirely out of carbon. Like coreless copper windings, plus using halbach pattern in the rotor and stator to direct the magnetic field where you want it without needing back iron. Carbon nanotubes can theoretically be something like 1000x more conductive than copper, but so far there aren't any techniques to produce long continuous tubes, and yarn made from short tubes has relatively poor conductivity due to the high resistance of jumping from one tube to another.
I think about motors a lot. I only wish I didn't have so many branches of electricity to be interested in so I could concentrate my time on this one topic. I also wish I had facilities for machining metal parts etc.
I would be curious to know if this technology could be used to improve the efficiency and power output (watts) of the automotive alternator, which is really like a motor in reverse - it uses mechanical motion to generate electricity.
Of course, it would. However, a vehicle using an alternator to charge and power an auxiliary uses a combustion engine to power the vehicle down the road AND turn the alternator. Let's say you put this highly efficient design in place of an alternator.... what would you do with the extra electricity? My point is that it's not needed, which is why they make very durable, less efficient alternators for combustion vehicles. For a hybrid vehicle, it would clearly be amazing.
Axial + Hallbeck coils + Induction coils sounds like a good idea.
Its going to be a nightmare trying to cool the thing since it won't be running at 100% efficiency and all that loss ends up as heat within the motor...
rocket labs rutherford engine has electric turbo pumps and cryogenic cooling at disposal
Nice job
I read that the typical motor design loses efficiency due to a magnetic field that forms while the motor is spinning. This causes a magnetic drag on the core while it’s spinning thus reducing output potential. Tesla designed an oval toroidal shaped motor that was also able to correct this inefficiency.
Hello, I was watching this with my grandson and when he saw the sheet showing the fields he asked what the largest size would be available something I suppose I can find on the net BUT he also asked if there was some sort of 3D library with the fields showing as well, or maybe even just a 3D library of the neodymium range of magnets themselves? Can anyone answer please?
It just looks like another basic improvement to not necessarily need permanent magnets
Where can I get some of these small, powerful, high rpm motors?
Young ideas very 💯🙏
Induction powered rotor with hallbach array windings plus another halbach array for the stator windings is surely the logical conclusion of magnet free motors?
Does Cryogenic cooling require nitrogen or a similar gas or a completely different coolant/refrigerant gas
That looks like a generator i have been working on for years
What about a more 3d design or gyroscope idea using magnets and switches?
I'm lost. Induction w/o magnets?
So where is the motor in the thumbnail? That seem like it would work the best. Also i had that saem idea of using induction to give power to the electromagnets in the rotor. No need for brushes. Had that idead years ago. Didnt think i was the first thou
In many situations when saying 50% better efficiency, it means 50% less losses compared to some other motor. While it can be debated whether it is correct to say it this way, it makes some sense when talking about efficiencies close to 100%. In this lever, efficiency increase don't have significant meaning, except when dealing with waste heat. We can also get better efficiency increase when talking about efficiency on non optimal area. For example with EV's, average efficiency is not close to motor maximum efficiency.
See he was using a ferrocell to view the magnetic feild. I was there the day the minute for the first time the world actaully viewed the magnetic feild live on KZhead. It was awesome. Thank you angry photographer.
Could ammonia be used as the coolant? Running coolant coils between the wire coils along with the air cooled cavities. Would that not help with heat reduction?
great video. i've been looking for those sheets that show the magnetic fields but i can't seem to find them since i don't know what's their name or who sells them, any sugestions?
"Magnetic viewing film" should get you some results.
@@DFPercush thanks
Have You heard of quantamagnetics? Could You do a couple videos on those technologies?
Also different metals prefer or resist different polarities. Efficiency can be gained by using two or even three different metals like Nathan Stubblefield did. A ignored part of science. Copper, zinc or aluminum and steal or iron based would be the easiest choices. Silver is neutral and can always be used for a benchmark for testing the difference of using other metals. Positive should be one, negative should be another the path to ground should be another.
At the turn of the twentieth century there were already cars based on this concept However good on him
Pretty sure this is Tony Stark's arc reactor... ;)
found your page this morning. we would love to talk to you about some projects we are working on..
Can u make a comparison of this motor with Tesla car motors? I heard Tesla motors r really2 gud
Great , it's the minato motors ?
Please keep it up. That is background music disapproval. Please no music pass it on. This goes for all background music where there is a narrator. Please stop the music.
The Powers That Be have a limited reach, globally, but that won't stop them from trying to kill innovation
A cheap $5 Chinese fan motor, having only a single inductor, can easily reach efficiencies of 300%. This unique type of motor/generator was designed by a special friend of mine.