How the Germans Cheated the Versailles Treaty
How the Germans cheated on the Treaty of Versailles (1919)? How effective were their efforts? And why did they cooperate so closely with the Soviet Union - its former and future - enemy? What did the Allies know about the German efforts? This video takes a look at the Treaty of Versailles restrictions, especially on the German
Industry, the Treaty of Rapallo (1922), the German-Soviet Cooperation with the Flight School at Lipetsk and the Tank School at Kazan. Additionally, on how the Secret General Staff (Truppenamt) was established, the creation of the Shadow Luftwaffe, the build-up of reserves and the creation
of a strong framework of highly trained and qualified personnel.
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MEFO Bills, obviously. It only cost them -0.05 political power each time they renewed them.
When is the next Brittain history episode?
i play darkest hour too.
Ten Minute History Waking the MEFO Bills
Ten Minute History But they can always use Czechoslovakian and Slovenian Gold to skip a quarter's worth of payment. Way too OP with two silent workhorses.
Ten Minute History wow nice to see you here
USSR : That is some impressive tank manoeuvres, who you training against? Germany : No one...........
Marin Germany- Did I mention how much I appreciate your help? Hope I can be of help... Someday
No one: Hello Germans my old friend. I've come to train with you again
@Jeff Seto ussr: hmm....
@Jeff Seto I didn't expect this.
@@tomfoolery4490 NO-ONE EXPECTS...THE SPANISH INQUISITION! 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Boy Germany is surely building a lot of tractors
the Soviet agricultural sector was in dire need of mechanization ;)
We are building tractors you see... that have beautiful rotating sprinklers on top of it because what's a better way to prepare the field other than sprinkling it with 75mm shells **wink**
Arysutha Negara Yes, as you well know Polish fields are full of dangerous wildlife, that is why we put high grade steel plates on all our tractors
Spees Techsupport dangerous wildlife? Do you mean poles?:)
I clear fields with 7.92mm Kurz machine guns mounted to my Tractor, gotta cut down trees in my way somehow!
Fun fact: rocket artillery was developed by germany to avoid restrictions on artillery.
They later developed rocket assisted shells to try to counter their inferior range compared to similar caliber guns of other countries. Its siege guns are awesome but their field guns were something bad in several aspects.
The First Rocket launchers to enter actual service were the Soviet Katyusha rocket launchers in 1939. German 15 cm Nebelwerfer 41 entered service in 1940. "The first weapon to be delivered to the troops was the 15 cm Nebelwerfer 41 in 1940, after the Battle of France"
I’m not saying the nazis were good, but they had some of the smartest scientist on the planet. Especially when it came to rockets
In a book i just read about Holy Roman Empire history, it says a Transylvanian feller obsessed with space since a child invented rockets and the fundamentals of what would be used later for V2's etc. This feller did all this around maybe 1860-1880 as a range i think.
@@thomasbrady3827 So much that at the end of the war many came to work for the US. Search for Operation Paperclip
Noo noo we aren't building panzers... we are building tractors, beautiful tractors. Why the 75mm kanone you ask? Well you know those damned mole rats? This kanone will be a *final solution* for that *question*.
Arysutha Negara the gun is for blowing stumps 😃
It’s a water turret, for long range watering operations, in Fra....I mean, in the fields of Frannnnnnnnnkfurt. You know so the crops grow strong, and we can take the harvest to the market gardeeeeeoooooh look at the time.
😭😂😂😂
Well These Supertan...i mean Supertractors are for the quiker harvest of french soil i mean frech trade The Canon is to Destroy the Allied resitance upsi i meant to paint the Allied resistance so they can be more colorfull
@@choruppted the solution to the mole rat problem lies with Snappers and Scavangers
Your tractors have some mean looking cannons mounted on them. Ja. Gut for removing gophers, Mein Herr.
you should see German gophers, they are called Wehrgophers and Reichgophers for a reason :D
These cannons are just for self defense purposes to be used in agriculture life of course. In Soviet Russia, pests eat you after all!
There is an old joke that a soviet newspaper wrote a report "Near the China border, our peaceful tracktor was attacked. It answered the aggression with rocket fire, then flew towards Moscow".
1Maklak Hey man do you have any links or how to find this story, much appreciated
Ja, you know we need them to kill Spatzen......tse german Sparrows..........tse german sparrow is a mean little bugger that can only be dealth with by using Cannons! ;)
Ah the Irony, The Brittish had called their land ships 'Tanks' to maintain secrecy and prevent the Germans from finding out what they were before their implementation in ww1. Then the Germans call their Tanks 'Tractors' to stop the Brittish and French from finding out that they were subverting the treaty.
A similar thing happened with an american made tank that was sold to the Soviets as a tractor to get around the laws against selling weapons to the USSR.
+Sam Novak Interesting. When did this happen ?
@@patricksputnick5094 Happened with the BT series of tanks IIRC. Christie (the inventor of the Christie suspension) couldn't sell his designs to the US so he sold them to the USSR under the guise of agricultural equipment.
@@Guardbuddy Ahaa, fascinating. I suppose this was during the so-called interwar years. Was this wholly his idea at the time, or did he have some ideological or other reasons than makin money when doing this ?
@@patricksputnick5094 Unfortunately I can't confirm anything since the sources I read about this topic was long ago and my memory is a bit hazy. But I believe it was a purely monetary thing since designing the tank for the US was pretty costly. Once they opted not to use his suspension as the basis for new tanks he desperately needed a buyer.
Amazing how the USSR and Germany were working together and not a few years later were fighting each other in the bloodiest theatre of war in history. Humans are strange creatures.
Mstislaw AA did you not watch the video?
inter-war training, production and testing
It is said that Stalin had a breakdown when he gained knowledge of Operation Barbarossa
Yes, he went to his Dacha for a week or so and completely isolated himself.
But wait, there's more. The top trading partners of Japan pre war were... U.S.A. and Britain. The Dutch provided a lot of the shipping as well.
Finally got around to watching this, most Superlative as always. In just thirty three minutes and 18 seconds you efficiently covered how Germany cheated, while TV documentaries just consist of 50 percent filler noise at best. It is why I don't watch TV.
Strongly agree. I was born in the '70s, I don't remember seeing even a single good informative documentary on the TV during my adult years since the beginning of the '90s.
The History Channel certainly was a disappointment. I can't figure out if the lame narration or how most of their shows are spent re-capping what happened before the commercial breaks annoy me most. About the only thing they have that older documentaries don't is some cool computer animation.
50% is really good for tv. Most two hour tv documentaries could easily be cut down to 20 minutes with no loss of information. They all are like the video equivalent of the essay you write when you are required to fill a dozen or so pages with stuff that only really needs a page and a half to explain everything clearly.
Axe men is very historical
History Channel was good for a while, then it went to reality show garbage. As far as how these videos are different than TV documentaries.....those are good for people who are new to all of this as an introduction. These MVH type videos are good for those of us who don't need the introduction and are interested in specific issues in depth. If you don't know much about history, these MVH videos would go right over your head.
Had captions on. "Secret rearmmament orogram" Captions: "secret ramen program"
Interesting 🧐
What was it that you said in your A7V video? "You know it's German because they measure the driving distance of multi ton war machines in millimetres." 19:00 :P
The french marshal Foch said "that's not a peace we got, that's a 20 years truce" said in 1919... (If you are wondering no he wasn't alone, some people foresaw this as well such as de gaulle)
Good quote but it was from French Marshal Ferdinand Foch.
Yeah, Foch was basically saying the treaty was much too lenient.
DrMilgram oops thanks i'm editing it
ger du I agree, as I recall the French plan was to split Germany into parts (Bavaria etc). I think people forget that after WW2 Germany was split up and occupied.
+ger du Seeing as France was the agressor of World War 1, there was no cause for that. Further French opression would've just made the nazi rise to power even stronger. Already the massive French atrocities such as the murder of innocent civilians by French soldiers, were great propaganda tools.
Just one look at the amount of sources for this video makes my head spin. Outstanding work sir. Have you thought about collaboration with TIK? I find your two channels superior to anything else out there when it comes to WW2. I would add that I muted the match ManUtd vs Sevilla in order to watch this.
thank you, I like TiK, but generally don't like collaborations. I have done one with the Great War so far and they asked back in mid 2016 when I probably had 20K subs, then finally around 2017 when I had way over 100K I did the armored train one. Of course, for the podcast / vlog, he is on my list.
i never knew a simple strategy game would unleash a whole unending interest in military history, (hoi 4)
Hakan Karaağaç boost me
Apparently you're not familiar with all the board games people have been playing through most of the 60s, 70s, 80s and 90s. Numerous board games and you have no idea how large they can be were the inspiration for several strategy games. You should search on the internet. Listing one here would mean rooting for one and alienating others. Also guess what, designers and publishers continue to make board games till this date.
"60s, 70s, 80s and 90s." yeah i wasnt arround then. except the 90s
Only you would know what you mean to imply by your deliberate confinement of awareness to the 90s. Databases exist of board games that existed and were played by people in the era before you were published. Here I've made it easier for you kzhead.info/sun/jZecabayp2V3f4U/bejne.html kzhead.info/sun/fqemeaqFhZ15g5E/bejne.html kzhead.info/sun/eNFriLGGcIWmiac/bejne.html I sure hope you appreciate the effort of me sharing these links for you here. And that you end up watching them.
its pretty simple. Do you really think hoi 4 is some in depth masterpiece?
*They see me rollin’. They hatin’. Tryn’ to catch me ridin’ dirty...*
Napoleon I Bonaparte Hi Nap
_doo-dah doo-dah_
Gee, I wonder why WW2 happened with this well thought-out and fair treaty.
It could’ve been worse too, there was an idea to ‘Trianon’ Germany like Austria Hungary I have a sneaking suspicion that wouldn’t be accepted either
@@looinrims The ting was it didn't stop after the treaty they literally Bullyed Germany for years even invading them in 1923 to steal money and yes it happend
@@tiagomonteiro130 yeah
5:57 As I said these are early signs of movie prduction. The production quality is improving fast and as always great and detailed video, i will surely watch it multiple times!
A BIG THANK YOU to my Patreons here, who allowed me to dig deeper for my videos: www.patreon.com/mhv Also check out the follow-up on "What the Allies knew?" kzhead.info/sun/gbSJadelcKV9mIk/bejne.html
Great video! While some points were known to me, I did not know the Reichswehr had already started to expand when Hitler took office, and i really like to have all these various facts combined together to one video. Thank you!
Das ist vielleicht das beste Video, dass du je gemacht hast, sehr ausführlich und informativ. Ich freue mich so sehr, dass du mit jedem Video besser wirst. Viele Grüße aus Bulgarien. P.S. Bitte startet ihr keine weitere Kriege mehr, da wir sicherlich wieder euren Verbündeten sein werden und natürlich den Krieg verlieren.
I don't know why any foreigner should have been angry at Germany for breaking such an unjust treaty. If I had been an English or French person at that time, I would have been happy that Germany was violating the Treaty of Versailles.
Wer soll es denn sonst sein?
Because you don't understand what you're talking about. 1. The Treaty was not unfair, go read it, it was translated in most languages and it's a better source than the "Nationalist" German interwar rhetoric you are spewing. 2. If you had been a French back then, you would have suffered for 4 years in the trenches because the Germans attacked you, lost friends, family, maybe had your entire village razed, ... even more so if you had been a Belgian as they were invaded and occupied despite being neutral. So you would never see Germany having a limited army as a bad thing. In fact you would mostly think that the treaty was not harsh enough (as it wasn't. And was written in a way as to make it seem it was, to avoid massive outrage in the general population at the view of such a miserably easy on the German treaty.)
Still the best history channel on KZhead. Nobody can touch this level of professionalism.
Mark Felton isn't to shabby eh
@@bryanneideffer3969 He‘s good, but less professionally presented than MHV, if you ask me
XD Rest of Europe was like: "The German military no longer exi-
wait til the end ;)
Chan Ho Woo exi-*boom second world war* Oh crap...
Divay Pratap meanwhile Poland vanishes..
Chan Ho Woo *_ANNEXED BY THE THIRD REICH_*
Wehrmacht in 1939 be like: "Surprise motherfuckers!"
US, France, and Britain: Why is farming in Germany so dangerous that their tractors need turrets?
Seen how long this video is so I paused it and went to go get my Gew98 to clean while watching
There is a great book on the history of gliders called "On Silent Wings" which talks about how glider clubs in German schools and universities were used as a foundation to train pilots during the interwar period. There were thousands of such clubs and German gliders were record setters. I was really glad you mentioned this.
18:45 1,5 meters isnt much tbh
Millimetres...
I think they were trying to confuse french
This is one of the most important videos to understand WWII you ever done. I've long waited for it.
Oh yes cmon lads 30 min vid. thanks MHV
This is one of your best videos, Military History Visualized. This is quite comprehensive for a KZhead video, and I love this longer format. MHV, do keep up the great work! :)
Well done! I really like this video being more extensive and longer than usual.
If that was a Soviet Womble reference, it was appreciated.
@@hanzchristiancastillo8887 12:50
Person: "Uhhh why is there a 75mm gun on the 'tractor'" German: "Theres obviously a massive vermin problem in the soviet union, its for pest control"
Great video, hope you continue to use more maps in your videos, because it gives a nice break from the one-coloured screens (which sometimes can be a bit monotonous), and it's nice to mentally place the places you mention. great work
Great video, saw it in 3 sitings, kept coming back due to your fantastic curation of information and the simple yet precise delivery, thank you
The German accent just made it better! haha
Man, I didn't think I would watch a whole 30 minute video simply about the specifics of the Versailles treaty, and then I did. Excellent video, MHV!
Me too... I thought I knew a lot before it start d too... but I learned a great deal and found it interesting
Greetings from Finland and thank you yet another great video! We still have the submarine Vesikko on display as a museum ship in Suomenlinna, Helsinki. It acted as a prototype for the German IIA-class of submarines. After WWII, Soviet Union banned, among other things, Finnish navy from ever having submarines, but fortunately we obeyed it as unquestioningly as the Germans obeyed Treaty of Versailles and Vesikko was spared from scrapping, although it was a close call. It is one of five still existing pre-WWII submarines in the world. Finnish-German cooperation also produced Vetehinen-class of submarines, which was originally going to act as a base for the German 700 ton submarine, though a Spanish-German 750 ton submarine was chosen for that instead. That submarine became the famous VII-class submarine. All of the Finnish submarines survived the war and claimed kills. Though their main contribution was mining the Gulf of Finland and locking the Red Baltic Navy in Leningrad. After the war, all the submarines, except Vesikko, were sold for scrap to Netherlands.
Great video as always, and eye opening, especially with the German/Soviet cooperation in the 20s and early 30s! Would you ever do a video on the Nazi economy? I think it would be interesting to see how it was, while clearing up any misconceptions that people may have.
Your use of Soviet Vomble icon gets me every time : ) It's so subtle. You're a master of humour.
Probably, it took more time to make this video, than to coquer France.
ACR Fuck you idiot.
LOL these french jokes but lets be honest Frenches are excellent soldiers and were to. Germans simply (as it was that simple, hat down for fall gelb) evolve after wwi...
France Nationaliste
Tell that to people who call me conservative. Perhaps it's not me but the leftists in your country that bother you?
France Nationaliste
Germany interwar period : Import goods Trade Actually german interwar period : Secreat rearm Train so many soldiers and generals Build many fighters and planes Got funding from MEFO German-Soviet cooperation
Coming back to this. Probably my favorite of your videos.
I'm currently doing an essay on WW1 and how it led to WW2. This video was amazingly helpfull, I'll be sure to mention you in my sources.
I wrote a paper about this! Awesome video, you have gotten at the subject a bit better than me actually. Toll!
Extremely useful. Weimar is a time alluded to, but seldom detailed, in histories. This helps connect dots between the two wars so that the student sees more of the whole picture..
Awesome video, as always! I love the way you focus on strategy, however I'd also love a political, and perhaps a more personal, run-through of the actions that lead to the final breach of the Versailles Treaty.
Thank you MHV. Thats some professional work.
I think you saved Indy and the crew of The great war loads of research :D
Divay Pratap , hahaha! He will take cliff notes. I can't stand that guy.
I don't think they'll be covering this kind of thing, even with the upcoming WWII series :/
Rebecca upcoming ww2 series??? Did I hear right? I literally can’t wait.
You have to wait until 2035 for it tho :p
Titouan Lannuzel 2039*
Bro, you are amazing! The information you give and the way it is presented is just outstanding! Keep up the good job man!!!
Wow, this channel's format is mega good.
Superb video! Keep up mate!
wow, You are the FIRST person (that i know of) who in english speaks about German-soviet cooperation... that was continued in WW2 thats a SUB
One of the rare objective video about 2nd World War, congratulations
I just love how the British tank in 16:42 is represented with a cup of tea 😂.
MHV, Excellent article! An 'armee d' tente' indeed. Training a core of experts available later as trainers and General Staff was indeed brilliant.
Thoroughly enjoy your videos. As a fellow historian also brought up in the Rahnke-tradition your research heavy-restrained conclusions- approach is refreshing in a world awash with anglo-saxon "never let the facts get in the way of a good theory". Keep up the good work :-)
In the 30's Germany firearms manufacturers bought out foreign companies to produce firearms. Under different names they sold weapons commercially to countries like Japan and obviously Germany. Steyr Mannlicher was one such company. They produced MP34's for export to a load of countries including Germany and Japan.
Steyr Mannlicher is an Austrian company and not a German one.
+Kaloyan Gochev loooool Please tell me that Austria was the first victim of Germany in WWII....
Yes know what I was saying was a Germany manufacturer bought out Steyr in order to produce firearms for them.
Great work man thank for upload
12:41 I see womble, I like Also because it was a good video
Franz:"We are not allowed to build tanks!" Hans:"No problem, just call them tractors" vladimir:"Hue brother, good idea!"
As usual, an excellent analysis.
7:23 Spell correction it's Limhamn with an M not Linhamn. Considered a part of the city of malmö today. My gym is in the very facility the company AB Flygindustri was housed ;) Gutes Video wie immer!
That was excellent. I have no questions left at the moment on this topic as the video answered everything I was curious about. I am curious about the relationship of German training and construction in the USSR to Tukhachevsky’s 1930 plan for modernisation of the Red Army and also to the development of “Deep Battle”.
*To be fair the Allies broke the treaty of versailles already in 1929.* The Treaty of Versailles stated that Germany would be the first country to reduce its military power, which the germans did till 1929 : 100.000 men in the army , no air force , small navy. Now after the germans reduced their military power the ALLIES should have followed next , as it is written in the treaty of versailles , after all the First world war was ment to be the war to end ALL wars. But guess what? The Allies greatly improved their military strength. France invested heavily in its army and the US and UK invested heavily in their Navy. Due to that Hitler didnt feel bounded to the treaty of versailles anymore in 1935. The Allies had 6 years to reduce their military power but they didnt do anything in that regard.
The Treaty of Versailles was too lenient. To prevent WW2, Britain and France should have dismantled Germany in 1918 into 100 separate countries like it used to be before Bismarck united them. Germany declared War on France, Russia, and innocent Belgium, an ally of Britain. In all technicality Germany started WW1. Then they caused massive destruction in the French countryside. Versailles was unfair, to the French people, and should have been far, far more severe.
@Jonathan WilliamsWorld War 1 was little more than a land grab by Austria and Germany. Everything else was the Allies reacting to German aggression. Russia was bound to defend its ally Serbia. France was Bound to defend its ally Russia. Britain was bound to defend its ally Belgium. However, Austria invaded Serbia even though the Austrian investigators determined that the Serb government had nothing to do with the Assassination of Archduke Franz Ferdinand. Germany declared war on Russia, France and Belgium. The invasion of Belgium was especially Heinous since Belgium was entirely innocent, neutral, had only a small military, and despite these facts Germany started massacring Belgian civilians. (See rape of Belgium).
MHV just a thought. Do you think you could make a sort of series where you analyze a country's industrial capabilities? Just a thought
In a way yes
Military History Visualized just saying. It would be awesome for me personally
Military History Visualized correction:- 18:44 it is 1500 km not mm 😅
no, the vehicle just broke down.
Gavin Yong nice one
Corum's book is really a must read for anybody interested in the strategic situation post-ww1. I read it years ago, exceptionally well written!
I love WWII history, especially channels like this that put REAL TIME and EFFORT!
You described how the development of key personnel allowed for the rapid expansion of the Wehrmacht once restrictions were ignored. Would be interested in a comparison with the expansion of the US Army, which also went through an extremely fast expansion in 40-41 without the development of key personnel. How do these two expansions compare?
Interesting question that one can dig deeper into than what I can do now. I think that one thing should be kept in mind, and that is that things are different than what they are now. USA and Germany had mass unemployment and factories were closed down and unused. So there was not much problem to find men to work for the arments industry and dress up in uniforms. And empety factories could be converted into building tanks and guns. And the long period of poverty had made people used to a low standard of living, so people didn't complain much when the standard of living was low and the government took much of peoples salaries to pay for the military expansion. People simply no longer remembered what is what like to have a wage and living a life in comfort, so they didn't complain much when the civilian sector was drained of resources. But Germanys resources was scare and they didn't have enough steel to build everything they wanted, so their economy was overheating by the 1930s. But America didn't have much such problems. On the contrary, it even had to start cut down orders for war material as the war seemed won by late 1943 and many military units were demobilized even before the war ended. So America could have given much more than what they actully gave during the war. So even some heavy losses by some miraculus German victories could easily have been absorbed.
My good man, the Versailles treaty had limits not only to germans but also to other nations. By 1927, Germany was the only country which actually had honored in full the Versailles Treaty, where countries like France and English had broke it already and nearly doubled military power. This being a fact, why not a video like: how the allies cheated on the Versailles Treaty prior to Germany ? :)
Thanks for sharing, I didn’t know that. Maybe that’s why the allies didn’t rush to war during the German rearmament, those living in glass houses shouldn’t throw stones right? XD
You may wanna offer your Source for this?
Ich finde das einfach klasse was sie hier machen. Die Dateien sind überragend. Weiter so!!! (Haben sie auch ein Kanal auf Deutsch?)
danke, nein, wär zuviel Aufwand und noch eine Menge anderer Gründe.
Schade, ich finde deine Kanal einfach Prima. Die Forschung das sie für jeden episode machen ist wirklich toll.
Thanks for video best one in months!
At 18:45, instead of writing 1500km as you said, you wrote 1500mm, which I’m not sure about you, but that’s not an impressive range.
Michenstunmeter, that's how you say kilometer in German.
@@stickemuppunkitsthefunlovi4733 Interesting. Thanks, but also a reply to a 2 year old comment?
@@iandownman5119 I'm a dedicated follower of KZhead.
@@iandownman5119 who cares? Does an arbitrary allotted amount of time mean someone can’t be corrected/informed/discussed with? “Videos about world war 2? Isn’t that 76 years ago?”
No, that's ok, we don't need too many tractors. We'll just keep with the horses, you can't eat tractors.
I am learning German a little bit with the side by side spelling and pronunciation being spoken aloud. Thank you! I have been trying for years to learn on my own, but now some aspects are starting to make sense! :)
How is your German now after 5 years?
@@kenhart8771 still not good not living around a bunch of Germans thanks a lot harder to learn the language especially with a bunch of illegal Cubans and Colombians moving into the neighborhood.
Great video its this kind of shit they don't teach you in school. Loved the details and the sources
"This is not a peace treaty, this is a 20 year ceasefire" -the german representatives when signing the treaty
That qas not from German representatives, it was from Maréchal Foch, commander of all allied forces in France. And btw he said this cause treaty was too soft for him ...
Or "How the Treaty of Versailles Guaranteed WWII." Don't play, they knew what they were doing. The Brits and french had a secret treaty with Poland that if *Germany* invaded Poland, France and Britain would come to it's aid. But if Russia, or anyone else, invaded, the Poles we're on their own.
Great video, not only great info but also gained a +2 in German while chuckling at "Walt Basil's World" icon haha :-)
over 30 minutes? Holy cow! Information overload! :)
The development of rockets circumvented the artillery restrictions.
in short. make thing illegal -> people will be pissed -> they always find a way
what if you make a total ban even closing any potential loophole
ever wondered how black markets form?
More because of supply and demand. But hey who am I
good luck building a society like that in this time and age. not enough nut-jobs around that would kill someone because their god emperor told them so.
I think a better conclusion ( note: my knowledge is very limited): Never attack people's pockets, 100% chance to make them pissed. I do think if Germany's economy was not affected by the Treaty, it wouldn't have pushed public opinion against the Allies.
once again, great video!
Very interesting and well presented old bean
I always thought Versailles, (And the lesser known Trianon) are proof that when you have an enemy that you wish to destroy, humiliating him and forcing him into a despair-inducing situation is probably counter productive. The idea of war without hatred is hard for many to gasp to begin with, and terms that come close to an attempt at sabotaging a nation's chance of survival don't make it much easier for the defeated population to leave old gripes behind. In the end, it seems that it's true that the best way to destroy your enemy is to make him your friend. Call me crazy, but I think the reconstruction of the Axis powers and their integration into the world community after WW2 have been more successful measures to prevent further conflict than Versailles was. Plus, I it's safer in the long term. One never knows, maybe one day the tables will be turned and one's nation will be weakened, maybe even defeated. Then it's better if the old enemy is not waiting for you with a crowbar, an old gripe, and a desire for revenge, but rather with a helping hand to repay your own magnanimousness.
AussieFlavio Both West and East Germany paid higher reparations after the Second World War than Weimar Germany paid after the First World War.
Byzantium when Probably because they were occupied by four other countries.
AussieFlavio 1815... well the french took it pretty well...
Not making them your friend, but controlling them with 'friendliness'. Do you forget how many NATO and Soviet Troops were stationed in Germany? Of course, they were there in case the other block attacks, but what do you think would have happened if they tried to rise again? Not to mention, many scientists and spies from Germany were recruited by the US in the late war or after the war
The problem with the Versailles Treaty was that it was manufactured from the ground up to seem harsh but to be full of loopholes that Germany could exploit, and political pressures were immense for it to not be enforced the way it should have been. There was a massive push from the allied population to condemn the Germans for what they did, and in France and Belgium who had been destroyed by the war even the political leaders agreed with that. On the other hand the UK was willing to manufacture a threat in Europe so as to not be outcompeted by France, the US also wanted to continue trading with Germany furthermore most of the population being of German descent, they were not willing to be too harsh on Germany (add to that the extremely naive and completely out of touch vision that Wilson had of Europe). So that treaty was irritating enough to have it fuel resentment and bitterness (but I mean come on, you attack, kill millions, level entire regions and get defeated, of course the peace treaty is going to be unpleasant) but completely useless as a binding document. But even then if it was applied correctly it could have worked, but France and Belgium who were the ones really trying to enforce the treaty faced massive international condemnation every time they tried. Even something as benign as the Rurh occupation in 1923, prompted by Germany unwillingness to pay it's debt was faced with international shaming of France and Belgium for collecting debt from a country that was flipping the bird to it's peace treaty obligations. As for war without hate .... Hate can be manufactured in anticipation for a war, plus you're grossly misrepresenting France's position at the time if you think they were led by hate, France if anything have been overly benevolent towards Germany, all but the most extremes of refusals to pay their debt was accepted, everything but reintroduction of conscription was tolerated, the debt was renegotiated multiple times, their army limits were renegotiated, ... But when you have rabid ideologues and opportunist politicians blaming the Great Depression on France, the defeat of 1918 on (((traitors))) and claiming that France has always tried to oppress and humiliate Germans (Dating back to Napoleon smashing the proud Prussian military in a matter of days after they declared war on him), truth is of little importance. France did try to slow down German industry, because France industry was mostly destroyed it was a way of levelling the playing field, but France did not try to kill it. France did make Germany pay for war reparations, but Germans did not pay for the war itself as it is often said, plus the amounts that they should have paid was deliberately underestimated, renegotiated multiple times, and not even that high to begin with (Along the lines of what France had to pay after the Franco-Prussian war when put in proportions). The fact that Germany refused to 1.Pay 2. Recognise defeat, tells much more about German pride (arrogance ?) and their unwillingness to comply with the Versailles Treaty from day one for a strong minority and from 1923 onwards for the rest of the country.
What I never realy understood is: While the allies, mainly great britan and france, dictated the restrictions on germany, they apparently never botherd to actualy enforce them. Why? What is the point of setting up rules, if you don't enforce them?
they were violated step by step. would you go to war for example for germany fielding 1% more officers then allowed? 5%? 10%? when do you go to war over that? what if germany had serious problems enforcing their borders and causing problems because they did not have a military?
Bart Bols Sorry, that doesn't make much sense to me. Do you violate the law by entering someone else's property unbiden, or only if you steal something? Sure, trespassing is a lesser crime then burglary, but it stil is a crime and should be persecuted. Also, going to war is only the ultima ratio for enforcing a treaty. There are many other tools. Like freezing assets, revoking visas, withholding puchased goods or blockading ports. So it would be relatively easy to tailor the penalties to the scale of the violation of the treaty. Especialy against a country as dependent on imports as germany.
Mostly because they're still recovering from the losses of WW1, nobody in those nations was looking for a fight. In hindsight obviously they were wrong, but look at how many times in moderns day we just let things go to shit before doing anything about it.
They were scared of another great war. Fear of millions of casualties over several years directly lead to Neville Chamberlain developing vaginitis. True fact.
They did enforce them, and there are multiple instances of it the video mentions. I suggest taking a more thorough look at the video again, because i dont want to repeat everything said here. In short, alot of NCOs, creating experts and expertise abroad in secrecy, not violating the laws inside German territory to not provoke further inspection/espionage into their doings.
Excellent analysis yet again
Excelente teacher, truly, im amazed
Do you think that the efficiency of the Wehrmacht was actually improved as a result of the Versailles treaty? I would think that shrinking the military would have the effect of pushing numerous bad habits out of both the enlisted and officer ranks. Many large armies tend to be highly conservative organizations that tend to collect bad habits. The Reichswehr was able to shed many of the bad habits of the Deutsches Heer such as oversupervision of junior leaders and enlisted soldiers.
The First world war proved that Germany had the best army in the world. The Austro-Hungrian army lost all their core units in 3 lost battles against the Russians the first months of the war, and the Ottomans wasted much of their offensive power with the stupid Armenia winteroffensive. And after that Germany had to fight the war mostly by herself, since her allies had exhausted almost all their offensive capabilities. But even so, Germany almost got close at winning the war entirely by herself. She knocked out Serbia from the war, and then Russia and Romania, and then Italy, and then also almost Belgium, France and Britain - which were only saved by the arrival by American troops in 1918. So I would say that the Army of the Kaiser was a much more impressive creation than the Wehrmacht. But in the end it would lose the war anyways because it didn't enough resources to keep on fighting, and the leadership also had some useless full retards in command as in all other armies at that time. Falkenhayn and his waste of a million men at Verdun is probably the best example. I think that Hitlers anti-monarchist anti-traditionalist attitudes made him an enemy of the old guard within the German army, which led him to fire all the old retards and put new fresh minds in the positions of power. And without Hitler, there would never had been any great career for Guderian, Manstein, von Paulus and others.
"Belgium, France and Britain - which were only saved by the arrival by American troops in 1918" In 1918 the Balkan front was collapsing under French-led assaults and the Austro-Hungarian empire was dissolving. Troops shipped by train would have been on the Austrian-German border in weeks. German civilians were starving and facing numerous rebellions from both communists and the military. Their army had been in headlong retreat for months and their economy was in freefall. They were by no definition "winning". America's most important contribution to the Entente were the loans they provided during the war, the extra reserve they sent in 1918 was very useful but ultimately not necessary. You're right that the army of Imperial Germany was more impressive than the Wehrmacht though.
The allies in 1918 still had a chance to win the war without America, but so did Germany also according to John Keegan. The war could have ended in many different ways. Personally I think that the scale would have been slightly in Germanys favour.. but the most likely outcome would have been a peace without any losses or wins for any side on the western front. And the monarchies and empires would survive the war.
“How the Germans cheated the Treaty of Versailles?” They didn’t follow it. There you go, I just saved you 33 minutes of your life lmao.
I was so waiting for this video, I was always wondering how could the allies fail calling out Germany for breaking the treaty at not even the 1930's but the 1920's. The relatively good relations that Russia and Germany had explains alot. Thanks for the video.
thank you very much i was look for a video about this topic
Where resources are few, you get creative. Enemies, beware.
Germany and Russia are still economically made for each other. That alliance is still the only alliance that can ever threaten US domination of the globe. Of course the US knows that and has placed its army from Estonia to Romania to seal off these two players from each other and has a tight control of German politics via the EU, NATO and other methods and Russian economy via isolation and sanctions. Same game is played in Asia with Japan and China, albeit it's easier to play that game because Japan and China were never keen to cooperate.
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Hey MHV, i hope you find this amidst the comment section either. First off, I love your channel as its been extremely helpful for research regarding a personal project of mine. Secondly, can you do a video on military working dogs of the world wars? I realize this topic can be a bit esoteric but I'm especially fascinated by the use of dogs on the Eastern Front of WWII. It would mean the world. Thanks and keep up the great work!
hey, thank you! Well, I don't think I will cover that here, maybe on my vlog, but I haven't come across any sources and also I have a huge loads of topics that I want to do.
I understand, thanks for the quick response. Full disclosure: working on a WWII novel set in the east and one of my pet peeves is writing that demonstrates a profound lack of understanding for the topic at hand and this channel has been wonderful in helping me avoid that.
16:13 Do you have any further information on the six aircraft designs? Oh, and fascinating topic to cover. Ta muchly.
Sadly no :(
The Versailles contract was a reason why ww2 could start.. Special Thanks to French and UK...
No, the real reason is that we let Germany get away with a slap on the hand. If we had the same treaty they imposed on the French in 1871, we would have given the French the Rhineland, forced the Germans to pay for the entire allied cost of the war, and when they balked like they did historically, we would have occupied half of what was left of Germany till they paid. That would have crippled them pretty much forever.
TheRequimen, ob known that there is a story behind 1871 right? And at this time my land was a part of Dänmark :D so I don't care
Daniel Eyre that's your opinion and I have the same of you :D maybe you should name the reason why I should be a pathetic idiot and maybe I will make some though about it :D I'm sure Hitler could not forced the enormus power he get in the public without the Versailles treaty.. Gave the country the blame who didn't start the war is maybe not the best idear
I wouldn't call it cheating more trying to find a way to survive this. Cheating would imply that there was any kind of agreement but it was basically someone holding a gun on your head screaming "sign it!" In the review not signing would have been better
Not signing would have destroyed Germany because, in your analogy, the trigger would have been pulled.
Please do a video on the Singapore strategy, very important but often overlooked part of of interwar history
@Military History Visualized This was really interesting. Are you planning to make a video about German rearmament towards the second world war?
Interested video, but I believe there are some things to be noted -due to lack of time and bad health, modifications on the list are going to occur as time passes- 1. 1. The Soviet German collaboration. It is interesting, first of all, because Germany was much a capitalist nation. However, socialists were gaining momentum and the soviets tried to gain more support for them by collaborating with the whole nation. So, another reason was political. Build 'The great revolution' step by step, helping each other. 1.2 Another reason why USSR joined this cooperation(apart from politics and technology gains) was the treatment after WW1. Not only that Russia suffered the greatest cassualities, but the war was not even ended and their former allies turned against them, building concentration camps, sabotaging their fleet in multiple occasions, encouraged other nations to invade them(Poland and Japan) and of course invading them. In other words, soviets had nobody else to cooperate with. The West and pro-western nations in Europe attacked and humiliated them. Asian nations, china was in Chaos. They were at war with Japan, which controlled the seas. 1.3 The colaboration ended in the years after Hitlers election. Multiple reasons: soviets supported socialists and communists. Meanwhile, Hitler 'stole' many of those voters. Hitler wanted to exterminate the slavs. And of course,the support he received from the west. 1.4 The years between '33 and '39(Poland) were quite tense between those nations. I would call the peak of those tensions the Spanish Civil War, when they supported opposite sides. Again, the soviet supported side lost.(ironically, it was the one that was legitimate to rule before the war) 2. A question for the author: why focus so much on relationships with USSR, but not other nations. Mainly the support Germany was given after Hitler's election, political and economic. 2.2 (For the interested one) That World Disarmament Conference could win the title of the most idiotic thing ever. Why? Because conclusion, mostly. As far as I remember(or I was told), there were four sides: the French wanted a huge cut in naval forces(because Britain had the best navy, and keeping up with them was too expensive); the british wanted a huge cut in land armies(because the french were better). And then there were the Germans and the Soviets. Soviets proposed that the strong nations should gradually reduce their forces untill everybody is on the same level as the weakes(them or Germany). And the german proposal: let the big militaries not develop themselves too much, but let the smaller ones(meaning Germany) rebuild and expand their armies, thus throwing away Versailles. This proposal won. So the conclusion of Disarmament Conference was that the guys who you blamed for a decade for staring a World War, which chose a leader that calls for the enslavement of half of Europe(including one of the participants) should be let to arm themselves until they reach parity with the strongest militaries. 3, I think a worthy mention should have been the annexation of Czechoslovakia. The final blunde of the Western powers. Not only did they let a nation they signed to protect, be taken by another, but Hitler gained the control of the factory near Pilsen, which produced the Pz 38 (T), which was the backbone of their tank forces in the begining of the war
Omega Alpha i am not going to read all of thos
1.2 Its former allies haven't turned against the SU. The former government had plentiful of allies, but the former gov was slaughtered by the communists. The Soviet Union did not have much allies, unless one counts Germans who heavily financed Lenin at start. Moreover it was not "Polish attacked", its more after Tsars empire collapse, all major subjugated nations decided to seek self determination. Some were squashed by Soviets (like Ukrainians) some not (like Polish).
Did you say - Poland attacked USSR? Oh my...
Польша атаковала Россию, заняла Киев и Минск, после чего была выбита красной армией до Варшавы.
@Andrieyev To be more precise: Polish-Ukrainian forces attacked Red Russian forces that were occupying Belarus and Ukraine.
Just in time for my history class lmao
At 18:44 your graphic states 1500mm, when I believe you meant to say km. Had me confused for a bit there
That was some profoundly interesting stuff, thank you.