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The two major thing that bug me in western movies are incorrect wardrobe and firearms for the era. Oh one last one is firearms that never seem to hvve to be reloaded the 15 shot six shooter.
Or firearms that never existed in the time period of the movie. Like SAAs and Trapdoor Springfield's in the Civil War!
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Those are my pet peeves as well. One other is the use of drop holsters, which didn't get invented until some time during the 20th century.
Saddles and other tack that is not period correct
I agree, I like the blunders too. Only thing that really drives me nuts are the 8,10,12,20 shot six shooters.
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hahahahaaaaa.....Me three!
That's one that never bothered me, I always figured it's better than watching people reloading all the time. It would add 15 minutes of boring footage.
@@dusty420 John Wayne firing 13 times in the end of The Sons of Katie Elder, lol
All the times I've watched Tombstone, I never noticed Frank McLaury's disappearing hat! Great video, Santee! -Desert Rat Rick
Right?
And Kilmer gets three shots out of a double barrel shotgun. Listen to the sound.
@@larry1824 Next time, watch very carefully. The second shot is repeated from two different angles. The first shot is into the air, to scare the horse. Then he shoots Tom McLaury. That scene is then repeated from another angle.
@Arizona Ghostriders, my favorite mistakes are when guns don't match the time period, such as the Winchester 1892 being in virtually everything.
Yeah
One of my favs is in Tombstone. In the OK Corral scene Doc Holiday shoots 3 rounds out of his double barrel shotgun.😂
That's actually not a mistake. He only shoots two. They did it from multiple angles (that Hollywood technique).
@@ArizonaGhostriders Wow just rewatched that scene you are right can't believe I didn't pick that up. And I have only seen that movie a million times haha.
@@TheArizonan They only seem to do that technique once in the movie...and it seems awkward to me.
What always bothered me is there is no OK coral! Ok.
You know, Bob Ross used to say... that "there are no mistakes, only happy accidents".
Good one.
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This was really interesting. That shot of John Wayne throwing the man down the mudslide with several 20th century observers is so obvious yet I've never noticed it even though I've watched the movie several times.
It got me too!
I’ve found a few over the years, but you’ve just pointed out some that I’ve missed. Now I’ve got to go back and watch them all over again. Thanks Santee!!! 🤦♂️
Excellent!
A gunfight , with Kirk Douglas and Johnny Cash. During the gunfight scene there is a bystander wearing wrap around sun glasses I remember that even though I was 13 at the time
OMG I can't believe the amount of cars in the background of those classic movies! Love the music! 🎶 (RHEC) 🤠
Right?!
Very interesting, not all of us get caught up looking for mistakes. I thought I was pretty good at spotting errors but I was surprised how many of them were in some of my favorite movies- I never saw before. Thanks for another great start for my weekend 😊
Thank You!
Great episode Santee, I love to try and pick out movie mistakes. But even with the mistakes, I still enjoy the Westerns.
me too!
Great video I can’t believe the John Wayne clip with everybody standing on the hill
I know right?
Good morning Arizona Ghost Riders. It's Ted from Texas. I enjoyed looking for them as well. In John Wayne's movie Rio Lobo, the soldiers by the trains were using Springfield trap doors. They did not come out for 1873 . If they were using Spencer's it would have been okay . Thanks for the show man
Yes! Thank You!
Santee, it was wonderful meeting you today! Thank you so much for taking the time to show Cailee and I around. We will be back soon.
You too!! Thank you so much for saying hi.
I love the topic of mistakes. If you live in the real world you are going to see a few . . . and make a few. Good work, Santee.
Thank You!
And we must not forget those wonderful contrails in the sky in some of those old westerns. Especially those filmed around the Alabama Hills in California.
Yeah, I was going to use a couple, but they are so faint.
The Tracker, 1988. If I remember correctly, it was pretty noticeable.
Two in John Wayne's The Alamo is a nighttime scene with a truck or bus in background, then a daytime shot with the Mexican army showing up and a truck speeding over the hill behind them.
Lots of 'em
I’ve always liked the 3 shots Doc had in the “double barrel” during the OK corral gunfight in tombstone. It could be argued that it’s also a double take of the same scene… but to me it really sticks out as unnecessary as in the second shot it shows him falling from the shot and the horse rearing and it repeats itself again… on the “third shot” just from a different angle. You’d think they woulda picked one shot or the other!👍
That shot was a cinematography trick I've seen a lot in other movies, but it didn't work with Tombstone.
I always count shots. The bullet kind.
Like the old Westerns, where the good guy would fire about sixty shots from his six shooter, then throw the gun away!
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THANKS
No problem
Excellent episode! I usually spot inconsistencies, but I gotta say that after watching it a kazillion times, the ejector rod housing on the Jose Wales Colt is one I missed - hiding in plain sight ya might say. I knew I'd seen that famous photo of Doolin before, but didnt research it. Oh...and the dude standing there in a suit 'n tie in the Wayne fight scene is right in front of ya 😂. And, I did wonder how Delaney was stayin' on that horse with her leg floppin' around.
Right??
I wonder how many women had back trouble from riding side-saddle, in those times.
I get so into the picture that I miss most if not all of the mistakes, but the mistake that I most often see is the 6 shooter that shoots a dozen or more times. Have a great Weekend.
Thank You!
I'm not one to look for them it just messes up the fun😂 sometimes it's just hard to miss 😮 thanks for a great start to my Saturday mornings 🤠
You’re welcome 😊
Santee, Thank you very much for showing the Best Old West content period. You and Mrs. Pew Pew and Kitty Cat have a beautiful and blessed weekend. Your Gunslinger Old West Brother.
You're welcome.
I do that pick out mistakes in films or TV shows and it drives who ever in the room with me crazy
HA!
I love the part where Bill botched it as to when Danny Boy first came out. Only missed it by a century 😂 Real enjoyed this one Santee! I love catching the “bloopers” in the classic Movies. You’ve found quite a few that I’ve never noticed. You always put out the best historical but fun videos. I always look forward to seeing them. Thanks Santee for all you do.
Glad you enjoyed it
Mistakes is part of the industry! Thanks Santee!
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You don't see so much anymore, but non period saddles and tack. Made me really appreciate Lonesome Dove because they seemed to have period gear. Also the good horsemanship of the two stars, Robert Duvall and Tommy Lee Jones.
Cool!
Another classic is during the runaway wagon scene in "The War Wagon" (poor John's got a target on his back today, doesn't he?), when you can clearly see the outstretched arms of the stunt driver holding the reins, but concealed in a box beneath the seat.
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utmost respect to the script supervisor, they and the foley artists are two vital pieces of entertainment that most don’t realize are extremely important to productions looking good thought you’d get a kick out of this: i was watching one of the videos and my 9 year old nephew asked whet i was watching. i told him and he wanted to know why would anyone want to rude a ghost…it took all of my might to not listen fir a laughing ghost or some disembodied voice saying “yeah, who’d wanna do that” 😳
HA!
Thanks for these! I’ll be watching for them when I re-watch the movies. When I first saw the movie “El Diablo” with Louis Gossett Jr. and Anthony Edwards I noticed a couple trucks visible in a scene, but years later when I saw it again they had edited those vehicles out. I’ve seen many Westerns where the tracks of modern vehicles are visible in the dirt or power lines can be seen on the skyline. For me, the biggest annoyance in Westerns is anachronistic guns, such as 1892 Winchesters in stories that take place earlier, or dynamite in Civil War era films when it wasn’t invented until 1867. I also have seen trapdoor Springfields being used in place of muzzleloaders. And in the terribly-good movie “White Buffalo” with Charles Bronson, the guns he uses switch back and forth between single-action Colts and double-action Smith&Wessons!
Fun stuff!
Django has a suburb, Great Silence skiers, TGTBATU has 2 cars, and Hannie Caulder has a truck on the poster
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Thank you for all the hard work you do to show your passion..✌️
I appreciate that!
Hmmm some of these I noticed in the films and some I didn’t. Thanks for pointing them out Santee ❤
You bet!
The one that drives me nuts, is the Bandoliers stuffed full of 45-70, 30-06 or 8mm Mauser ammo & every single person carrying a Bandolier is using a 44-40 rifle of some type. The other thing that gets me, is the pistol or rifle, shotgun they are using in that time period of that movie, has not even been invented yet. I guess they have no Historians to consult with?
Yeah, the gun stuff is crazy.
Excellent episode Santee! Pretty interesting the things that slip in or items from the wrong time. I have to just ignore them and just enjoy the story. Have a great weekend! Cheers!
Cool, thanks
Great episode, Santee! I've just recently watched some of the movies mentioned here (For a few dollars more, Rio Bravo, Tombstone), but I didn't even notice those errors. Keep up the great work!
Thanks for sharing!
Fantastic. It is good to know I'm not the only person who nitpicks at movies. After taking a course in film making in college, I have a hard time just enjoying a movie. But I try. Thanks.
Glad you try!
I remember a episode of "Daniel Boone" with Fess Parker(Not the Old West.,I know) where you could see a jet contrails in the distance.
I miss those all the time.
I was watching Gunsmoke recently and one of the houses had an electrical box.
Haha!! Good catch
In just about every western ever made they're wearing twentieth century style cowboy hats. Pants with belt loops are often being worn even though those weren't common until the mid 1920s.
Right.
My favorite is the never ending supply of bullets in the guns. The photos printed on paper before that was invented from the 1850s to 1880. Oh yes 1973 Colts being used before 1875
yep!
It also amuses me how they can load cartridges into cap and ball revolvers.
@@user-qp7od4mz5j I sometimes see the conversations but the others I don't see how. I had forgotten about that.
Nevermind the BG cars, "Hang 'em High" also features, during its Big Hanging scene, a great big grey metal junction box of some sort, with electrical cables snaking out, directly under the gallows stairs as thge actors somberley climb past. Hilarious then and now!
HA!
I love firearms and my wife loves historical fashion. Westerns have been rife with both historically inaccurate firearms and clothing. Continuity errors happen for many reasons. Thanks for a great video. I love when wristwatches sneak into films where they shouldn't be.
You're welcome and thanks for keeping the west alive.
Thanks again Santee & Co.
You're welcome.
One of Jon Wayne's most obvious is his guns not to mention the copper bracelet for arthitis. There is one of Randolf Scott burting into a cabin firing at people at the table but his pistol is pointed at the ceiling for the first shot or two. They don't ruin a movie but help us nerds enjoy it even more.
Firearms are their own episode.
My favorite Western Movie Mistake is in 'The Commancheros'. If Jake Cutter (John Wayne) fought at the Battle of San Jacinto that would date the movie as happening in the late 1830s maybe 1840. That doesn't keep The Duke from using a Colt SAA which wouldn't be invented for another 30 years!
Yeah, the firearm mistakes are an episode or two by themselves.
@@ArizonaGhostriders there you go. More content for the channel!
Always excellent…. Thanks for your efforts Santee!
You're welcome.
What fun! I love continuity error videos, and this does not disappoint. Thank you!!
You're welcome!
Hahahaha woooooow...that was an awesome video! I had no idea there were soooo many mistakes included in western movies. I never really scrutinized the background much because the main-focus was SO exciting!! 😄😄😄😄
Glad you enjoyed it.
Great show Santee, and hopefully, I'll be able to catch some of those mistakes in the movies that I have that you were showing.
Enjoy the hunt.
Usually I do not let looking for errors spoil enjoying the movie. One thing that stood out was the final showdown in The good, the bad and the ugly when Angel Eyes has cartridges on his belt when clearly carrying a cap and ball revolver. They even made a close up of that.
Oh yeah!
I feel honored to be here so early.
Coffeeeeeee!
Ha ha!
Whodda thunk it? I never noticed these mistakes in some of my favorite movies. You're right in that it takes a trained eye. Thanks Santee. Another great episode.
I appreciate you!
@@ArizonaGhostriders thank you. And I, you.
My father said that he and his buddies used to wait for the scene where the Cavalry comes to the rescue, and see if their flag had 48 stars...apparently, often enough it did...
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GREAT ONE SANTEE , KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK
Thank You!
I have always loved John Ford Westerns. With that said, no mater the time frame of the movie, the rifle is always the model 1892 Winchester and the handgun is the 1873 Colt SAA. In the "Horse Soldiers" and "Undefeated" they did use 1873 Springfields and 1869 Remingtons as muzzleloaders.
Fun stuff...John Wayne gets a pass!
@@ArizonaGhostriders I totally agree.
This was really a fun video thank you for sharing it with us. I never really noticed these type of things but now that you've brought it to my attention I will be looking. And I agree it's fun. Thank you so much 🤠
You're very welcome.
in the spaghetti westerns like the good the bad and the ugly you can see percussion caps on the "cartridge" revolvers in the gun fight scenes.... or the fact they load "cartridges" into percussion revolvers....
Yeah....they did that.
Morning Santee: That was so cool. I will have to start looking for blunders in the westerns. Have a great weekend. :)
Good morning!
I've noticed a few mistakes when I researched some of the movie holsters I've made. Very cool video Santee!
SO cool, Richard!
Iv'e always looked for goof ups in movies....Thanks Santee. 🎸🎸
You're welcome.
Good one! I remember spotting a few cars way off in the distance in the beginning of “Hang ‘em High.” Hope you are having a good one! I’m fishing right now… How come it is way easier to catch turtles in a lake FULL of brim?!!
Not sure, but enjoy!
One of my favorite “goofs” (in reality just a matter of blanks), is when they use Colt new service pistols in movies like young guns. After this video, though, I won’t be able to look at these movies the same. Great video!
I thought he used the historic Colt 1877 DA Lightning in that. The kid was actually supposed to have had a DA revolver...
@@ArizonaGhostriders He did, during the opening credits you can VERY visibly see the pistols firing are Colt New Services.
Hmmm....I'll look for it.
Wow, i never noticed all the cars in those old westerns. Now, i gotta watch them again to see how many i spot. Sounds like a good way to introduce the gran' sons to John Wayne.
Thank You!
thanks santee keep it up.
Always welcome
Thanks Santee.
No worries!
Aircraft and jet vapour trails have shown up in a few backgrounds as well.
They have
In a lot of movies that take take place before 1866 you can see Trapdoor Springfields used as muzzle loaders.
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I never noticed the disappearing zeros in"For a Few Dollars More." I always thought the mistake was the guy didn't look like his poster. Col Mortimer's gun horse makes up for all the mistakes.
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Thanks Santee it's raining today so cutting the grass is out. Guess I'll just have to go back and watch some westerns and look for the opps! Thank you Santee for all your hard work and time Sir!🤠🇺🇲
You're welcome.
Terrific. Thank you.
You're welcome.
I got a few, with John Wayne in North to Alaska, his toupee flips on his head during a fist fight. Cars can be seen in the Undefeated on there way back to the US, behind the wagon train. With Sam Elliotte in Gone to Texas, at the end while they are chanting Houston, someone has a timex watch on. Also in the Shadow Riders, there is an ac and Kitchen Vent on the roof of a General Store while he is saddling up in front of them. In North and South, when David Carridine is fighting Orry Mann, his scare changes sides of his face and in one of the battle scenes in the early part of the CW, there is a guy with yellow ear plugs. lol. That are a few, I could think of right off the top of my head.
Good ones.
Too, funny. When I told my brother in law, that in his favorite movie if all time, Shane, that it had Two scenes with a car or a bus he couldn't believe it. So I rented the movie, at blockbuster, and showed him. Yep, that was a while ago. I felt so bad for him I refused the bet.
Funny.
There was an episode The High Chaparral which had a shot pointing upwards of a cowboy on his rearing horse. There high above him was a little Cessna aircraft circling around. How this was missed is hard to tell as for one thing they must have heard the engine. John Wayne is usually seen wearing a copper bracelet which he wore because it was believed it stopped people getting arthritis. Except this was a mid 20th century notion and not one people of the old west would have heard of. In film Open Range during the big shoot out at the end Kevin Costner seem to have an endless supply of bullets in his six shooter as he fires over a dozen rounds before he stops shooting.
Good ones!
I don’t remember the name of the movie but there was a Saloon scene and a table got knocked over in a fight. The cards and poker chips stayed in place. Oh and Santee, I watched Far Haven recently and you had a good close up early in the movie!!
Thank You!
This may be a Cinematic Urban Legend -- but I've heard in ''Shane'' [1953], when Brandon de Wilde's character is calling ''Shane. Come back Shane.'' a sharp glint in the far BG is Alan Ladd's Airstream trailer being moved by transportation back to LA, as the picture was wrapping. It may have been excised from the IMDb trailer clip, but I'm * Printing the Legend.* Actually, after replaying the trailer clip a couple times, I'm not sure I see an Airstream there, but in the early scene, that opens on a buck deer on screen left, Shane is approaching, and behind him, a vehicle at range is moving left to right. IMDb in ''Goofs'' calls it a bus or truck. A big star's personal fancy trailer might be an embellishment.
Interesting!
Great video as always. In Josey Wales, his pistol in the beginning was a conversion model, that didn't come out till around 1866. There is a scene at the end of the movie where they are using trapdoor Springfields that didn't come out till much later. It would probably be fine for the book timeline since Josey and the kid are robbing banks in Missouri for about a year after the war prior to heading to Texas.
The movie indicates it was a much shorter timeline.
Actually, the first trapdoor Springfields were converted M1861 rifle-muskets beginning in 1866 in 50-70. The Richards conversion revolver could be a gunsmith conversion, as in the movie "Last Stand at Saber River" set in the same period as Josey Wales.
@bedeodempsey5007 the scene at beginning was anywhere from 1861 to possibly 1863, so the conversion on the revolver would not have occurred, plus not to likely for a farmer to have a conversion. Lone Watie is possible but time in movie makes it look like 1865, but in book would be 1866 or later.
@@ericruss6734 a factory conversion would not exist, but a gunsmith conversion could exist as early as 1862, when the Henry rifle finally hit the shelves. Whether or not any gunsmith actually did a conversion that early is something we likely will never know.
Thanks for pointing these out. We all watched those westerns but I never noticed these mistakes at all. Lol guess I’m blind as a bat.
You're welcome.
Can't believe that the Cowboys Hats couldn't be shoot off in real life Nooooo, Movies lied to me 😮😮😮😊😊
HAH!
@@ArizonaGhostriders 😊🙂
In The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly, in the final showdown, the caps on Setenza's Remington disappear and reappear. And, of course, the assembly of Tuco's revolver is nonsensical, but that's for an essay.
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Great video Santee
Glad you enjoyed it
You mentioned that The Outlaw Jose Wales was too early for cartridge conversions, there were some individuals have their Colt revolvers converted to accept the .44 Henry cartridge, however these wouldn’t have been too common. The glaring goof, to me was Lee Van Cleef in The Good, The Bad and the ugly, he was armed with a Remington .44 cap and ball revolver, which was correct for the era and considering he was in the Union Army, yet he was wearing a cartridge belt. Enjoy the videos and the information you have provided for us to enjoy.
Colt wasn't converting them until 1871, so it had to be pretty uncommon, and I'd love to see proof of one for research purposes. I'm guessing an aging transient Cherokee wouldn't have a cartridge conversion that early. LOL!!! Yeah, the G, B,& U has a lot of foul-ups in the firearm department.
@@ArizonaGhostriders these were done by local gunsmiths, so they would tend to be rare. I think people weren't too crazy about a new dangled idea. The cap and ball revolver was good enough.
Most of these are pretty subtile, and when I'm watching a movie I'm just enjoying it and not looking for mistakes, but even I caught the air conditioner in High Noon. The thing is about mistakes, I appreciate it when other people make mistakes, it makes me feel better about my own!
Good!
My favorite filming mistake? 1939's Stagecoach. When the coach fords a creek, you can clearly see at the bottom of the screen the shadows of the camera crew.
Yep!
I can’t believe I never noticed the one with Frank’s hat in Tombstone!
It happens. I miss a lot! 🤠
That's a good one. Thanks!😃🙂😊
You're welcome 😊
I wonder if any of those old western films have those moments where the mic or camera is accidentally shown in the corner of the screen
Many times. A lot I've read about are shadows of these as well.
Great stuff, Santee. Yep. We all make mistakes.
You got that right!
These are fun to see. I wouldn't mind an "Even More Western Movie Mistakes" video
Think I'll do that!
For earlier movies, these probably weren’t scrutinized because you saw it only one time on the screen. Now, we can stop, rewind, frame by frame, etc. Higher standard in this digital age.
They easily went frame-to-frame then. That's one of the ways they edited.
I really enjoyed this video and never noticed many of those goofs until you pointed them out. In defence of Once Upon A Time in the West, the melody of Danny Boy is a very old tune known as The Derry Air (I told a French woman this once and she refused to believe me - it turned out she thought I was saying "derriere"), dating until at least the early 18th century, which causes a lot of confusion for people, even here in Ireland. Many people here assume Johnny Cash's Forty Shades of Green is a traditional ballad, which really says a lot for the song. I even thought so myself for many years.
Thank you and there are many melodies that are old and turned into different songs over the years. The lyrics "Danny Boy" and adding it to that melody are in that category.
@@ArizonaGhostriders Actually, that reminds me - the melody of The Bard of Armagh is the one used for The Streets of Laredo. Funnily enough, some Irish ballads are lost to Ireland, and only known through America, and Down in the Willow Garden is believed to be one. You could get another video out of this subject alone. Anyhow, I'll detain you no longer, many thanks again!
Thank You!
real good episode santee
Thank You!
Power lines in the back ground is another common mistake. My favorites are errors with WWII military vehicles.
American tanks and halftracks with a swastika stuck on them. Not even trying.
Yep
1943 "Sahara" (Humphrey Bogart) is a good one for that error. I extensively researched that movie and found the desert filming site.@@tomjackson4374
Anachronisms and other inaccuracies are easy to catch when you know history; guns, songs, pantyhose, zippers, playing cards with the value in the corner, slang, hairstyles, jet streams, and a woman with bikini tan lines in a spaghetti western that I remember nothing else from. People not dying the way they historically did is one thing that particularly irritates me to no end.
I get that, too!
For me, I always cringe at seeing John Wayne with his colt peacemaker way before it was supposed to be marketed, not to mention how winchesters are used years before they were made
Yup
Westerns whether historically accurate or not will always be a important part of American history , great video Santee
Glad you enjoyed it
Well, as several former presidents once stated, "Mistakes were made!" Sometimes the mistakes are very obvious but I usually like the movie anyway.
Me too
Keep up the good work!!!!!
Thanks! Will do!
Good video santee
Appreciate it