EDIT: Hideki Kamiya didn't design Nero, he was was created by Bingo Morihashi and designed by Tatsuya Yoshikawa! An annoying error as I got my names muddled. Apologies, I hope it doesn't hurt your enjoyment of the video!
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When I made my Dante design retrospective I was blown away by the reception to it. So I wanted to make sure I'd focus a bit more content on Devil May Cry 5, it's one of my fave games last year. Today we look at how Nero has evolved between DMC4 and DMC5... and how Capcom turned him into one my favourite protagonists.
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So this episode was an attempt to go a little bit deeper than just looking at Nero's aesthetic and design, I hope you enjoyed my further analysis into why I enjoyed the changes made to the character so much! A massive thank you to my friends from Bastion, who provided their amazing track 'Drift' which closed this video and perfectly suited the DMC vibe imo. Check them out on Soundcloud: soundcloud.com/bastionmusic
In 3:25 think you said that the design of the first Nero was by Hideki Kamiya but it was made Tatsuya Yoshikawa but its normal is like people thinking that Hideki Kamiya was the director of Bayonetta 2.
Hideki Kamiya did not work in DMC after the first one I think.
@@Mclucasrv Yeah you're 100% correct, I am so annoyed at myself! Thank you for addressing though, have edited the description and left a pinned comment!
Hey I liked the video , thank’s for talking about this, but I just wanted to tell you that it has been confirmed that Nero is NOT at the same level as the sons of sparda, they were just tired because of their fight
@@joquintrozzo1368 who confirmed this?
Local Gen Z slaps his uncle and DDT's his deadbeat father
*Deadbeat Boomer Father
7:03 - "And then he revved his sword" I tell you, I've seen plenty of self-proclaimed "huge DMC fans" who thought this was Dante even _after_ he spoke or revved his Red Queen.
I binge watched reactions to that trailer and even though I don't consider myself a DMC super fan, the amount of people who thought it was Dante in the trailer was shocking to me lol. I had a skepticism about it at first considering it was post reboot, but as soon as he did that it was so obvious it was Nero lol.
I was one of those I thought it was reboot dante
I actually recognized it was Nero when I saw he was missing an arm. I didn't hear him talk at first, so when I saw him flipping around the van shooting demons with a giant revolver, I knew he was back.
@@ArtistMarkFlynn I actually still wondering if that was a reboot version of Nero at that point in the trailer.
I only realized it was Nero when he spoke in the trailer, then the robot arm confirmed it =/
DMC 5 Nero is already so iconic its crazy
Dead weight!
Huhhhhhh?????? He looks middle aged and like a bum his dmc4 design was much better
@@osoriojohnny17 Dude is middle aged, he ain't 18/19 anymore, he's around 24 years old now, of course he'd look older.
@@osoriojohnny17 I liked him in 4 as well but admitedly it was a very anime desgin.
Way more iconic than that Witch from Sega.
It kinda feels like Nero is the new Sparda. At least in concept. He fights for humanity, his love for his family trumps pretty much everything and is what drives him forward. When Dante and Vergil's rivalry became a liability, he was the one to put them in their place and make them work together. Not to mention, his love for his family and comrades is what allowed Nero to unlock his true devil powers without the need for a Devil Arm. It was just him. Nero's Devil form is also more angelic in appearance, what with the softer forward curling horns, long flowing hair, slim build and Devil Bringer arms that resemble feathery wings. My point is, this gives Nero the air of a savior who "woke up to justice" with others' best interest in mind and who cares for his loved ones, rather than a brash and cocky anti-hero who mostly fools around just cuz he can. Even Dante acknowledges Nero's fortitude in many facets and wants Nero to be better than him, and he knows the human world is in good hands. I'm honestly really excited to see what Nero will be up to next.
You're quite right. Nero had a good childhood with Kyrie and Credo, despite the fact he hated the Order. Both of them are his family, the one's he care the most, no wonder he's mad when She's get kidnapped. If she's dead, Nero will be just like Vergil, a guy who hungers power just because he lost someone he cares but failed to prevent.
Arismafia Mafiaiskandar This. Nero is who Vergil could’ve been, and I think ultimately that’s what made him able to save the two from their self destructive behavior.
@@eggmcmuffin6067 If Eva and Sparda still alive, Vergil would basically be Like V, while Dante would still be cocky but less of an asshole.
Me too! Can't wait to see what the kid does next! I am personally invested in his growth and I am eager to see him progress further as a Devil Hunter.
Arismafia Mafiaiskandar well to be fair V is more than just the Human half of Vergil, he still has all the trauma and power lust that Vergil had, but it’s true he’d be more relaxed and poetry loving like V was.
I liked this design of Nero bc it felt like HIS. Not a rip off directly from Dante.
Yes! 100%
Dammn Deejay He Wasn't A Rip Off In Design, He Was a Rip Off In Personality
@@Next-xm2dh when I say design, I'm encompassing the entirety of Nero. Everything about him screamed Dante. Not JUST his looks or personality, but even his name, choice of weapons, etc was just a rip from the obvious. At least in this game, they TRIED to make Nero his own character. And it worked well. This is how he SHOULDVE started
@@DammnDeejay Yeah. As Mark said in the video, his persona was kinda off until DMC5, where his individuality is much stronger.
@@robertminnie782 him being Virgil's son tho....I can't lie ..it seems a bit....ass pully..? Because let's be honest..who is Virgil really attracted to other than himself? But I guess that's another comment section 😆
Now this This pulls my Devil Trigger
Bang bang bang
The shorter hair also helps distinguish him from Dante and Vergil at a glance, something I really appreciate.I think Nero's general character was also really helped by having Nico to bounce off of in 5, basically being pushed into playing the straight man to her weirdness, while still being a bit of a goof himself, but not as much as Dante. Nero is more of a homegrown hero despite his lineage, more emotional, but it's that part that decides to stop Dante and Vergil, the family he Just found out he had, from killing each other. This kid who's been an outsider all his life finds out the one thing he's always wanted, a family, actually exists in their own scattered way, and by fuck he's gonna keep it together somehow, screw Dante's offhanded way of looking after him at a distance. I really love Nero and the direction they took with him in 5Lovely video ^^
Yes! Agreed! Nico was an awesome addition to the series as well.
DMC5's Nero is a lot more punk rock and I always thought that was a good style for Nero. Him breaking away from a dante/vergil lookalike helped his design a ton as well. Before I got into the DMC series I literally could not tell between Dante and Nero with my uninformed mind and through what small glances I had of the games. Red Queen is also one of the coolest weapons in all of video games, so that always gave him big points. Nero kicks ass, if there's ever another entry in the series I can't wait to see how he develops in gameplay and style.
Well it might also help that Dante got overhauled too. He seems like way more of a ham and less of heavy metal gothic-esque version of all of his previous iterations. Infact he seems like an out of touch dad. Look at his reaction to one of demons which is a awkward point and laugh. Or his SSS taunt which is this weird disco dance. In 4 he still had badass one liners that ultimately meant that - in so many words - the boss was going to die. He doesn't really say that at any point to any boss in this game. Dante seems to have went from this cocky ass teen who loves punk rock but eventually grew out of it but he stil lthinks everything he does isn't boomer dad cringe which his hilarious.
I think that in DMC5 he is much more like Dante in personality, he makes a lot more jokes and ironies in the same way that Dante does, it's like he was Dante from DMC3. In 4 I think his personality was more his own, to be honest I don't like Nero, I would prefer that Dante was given the Devil Arm power and Nero never existed.
Not ashamed to admit I've always loved Nero WAY more than Dante and Vergil. I know a lot of people hate the whole angsty teen thing he had going but I personally loved it. Same reason I love Raiden instead of Snake. There's something about a weaker and younger character going from being overshadowed by the older ones to rising to the top throughout the series.
Raiden and Nero supremacy
One thing about Nero's attitude is that in 4 I felt he was showing off to look cool to any potential bystander or something, he wanted to feel cool so he showed off that way. In 5 it seems like he just wants to entertain himself when he shows off, he still does it but it seems more like he just wants to have fun with things and not look cool, which in turn makes him cooler. Like I don't think 4 Nero would do the dance he does in 5 nor the camera taunt, those are pretty damn goofy and not really stylish but he has enough fun with it that it makes it pretty damn cool.
His uncle rubbed off on him.
There’s a difference between being cool and _trying_ to be cool. The old Nero was the latter.
and he also has a sweet and soft part which make him even more attractive
In spite of his flaws, I'm glad they introduced Nero. DMC5 did him justice and sticking with Dante as the main character would have been a mistake. In 4 and 5 Dante never once struggled except against Vergil and that made total sense by that point. He'd completed his arc, he'd gotten so many fucking powerups and from the beginning he was incredibly strong
I agree!
Wholeheartedly agree. I love me some Dante and Goku, but when you establish your character to be one of if not the strongest, there's no longer any suspense or sense of danger unless you pull something with bigger numbers out of your ass. Otherwise you'll basically be playing a walking simulator until you reach the final boss. It's why I like shows like One Punch Man, which focuses on the struggles of the side cast, and JoJo's, which hands off the title of protagonist to another character (something DB should have done with Gohan and DMC appears to be leaning towards with Nero).
@@GroovyPancake Funnily enough Nero had a stand in his first game
He adopted the Chad persona compared to its dmc4 version
😂
A note to the editor (myself): Hideki Kamiya didn't design Nero, he was created by Bingo Morihashi and designed by Tatsuya Yoshikawa! An annoying error as I got my names muddled. Apologies, I hope it doesn't hurt your enjoyment of the video!
It's fine everyone makes mistakes and can't wait for animal crossing video.
I wonder if Kamiya will block you for this xD
My biggest nightmare is him quote retweeting the video telling me off on twitter.
You just know that nero is vergil's dad from dmc5? If thats true, i am verry disapointed
Don't you mean Itsuno? Kamiya has had nothing to do on the franchise since the first DMC.
I didn't mind Nero as a character in DMC4, actually. I liked him quite a lot, actually. I saw Dante as more of an intruder in that game... like, he felt very off to me from the beginning. He's super quiet and unresponsive at first, but then starts clowning around even more than he did in DMC3 later on. 😆 I actually didn't like how he stole Nero's spotlight in that game because Nero turned out to be too weak. When it was time to play Dante, I was pretty much just like "where's Nero? I want him back. I don't like this intruder!" LOL. Even though I did play DMC 1 to 3 beforehand, I preferred Nero overall in the fourth game. Dante is way better in 5, though. In my opinion.
Interesting! You were kind of the opposite to me then. Like I say in the video, nothing really against him in 4, but definitely wanted to see Dante more!
Thats cuz Dante was out of place in 4. Realistically he could hav solved the plot of that game in like 20 minutes if he hadn't discovered Nero. He was just clowning around and enjoying himself because he finally had a family member alive again after Vergil died in 1.
I had the same reaction when I had to play Dante in 4. I immediately liked Nero in 4 when he was introduced.
Dante's too overpowered at that time, he's just joking around. When Dante meet Nero he reminds him like when Dante in his younger days, in Dmc3.
I hated Nero in DmC4, but everytime I got to Dante, I'd be like "fuck, that's right. he doesn't have the arm grab"
nero in dmc4 feels like a mini dante. sure he wears blue but it almost doesnt stand out, as if his red shirt is his main color, nero in dmc5 feels like a mix of dante and vergil but with his own thing in it too
The devil may in fact cry
Damn right
Remember. Only reason nero is fighting in DMC5 is because dante called him dead weight 😂
I mean... He wants his arm back as well 😂
Yeah in my mind Dante said that as his way to make him leave, more protecting a "smaller" nephew from something that Dante even knew he couldn't beat. Kinda like arya throwing rocks at nymeria in GOT. He also didn't see him as an equal yet.
and then him trying to prove to himself that he ain't deadweight 😂
Pretty much! Nero has an inferiority complex. In the prequel novel, he correlates the Devil Bringer with his ability to protect those he cares for. This includes Dante and is another motivation that drove to help him.
@@ArtistMarkFlynn I don't think it's as much about the arm as it is about Yamato. Dante trusted it with him, and Nero really looks up to him. Then, not only does Nero lose the precious heirloom of his hero, he feels directly responsible for the disaster that follows. On top of that Dante calls him useless when he tried to put things right. The game is never explicit about any of this but it's pretty clear.
I known we can't have this game without Nero losing his arm, but I really wish we got to see more of the devil bringer in the new graphics. A lot would change if Nero kept it, but I really wish he didn't lose it right way
Two years late I know but Nexus Mods has a mod that makes it so his Devil bringer arm used in the arm ripping cutscene replaces his human arm
I think the "scene kid" Nero looks a lot cooler and fits my aesthetic tastes a lot more (god knows how I have a fetish for unnecessary belts, zippers and holsters) but the "chad jock" Nero has a more simple, distinct and unique look.
The only aspect I'd say DMC5's design is inferior in would be the use of colour. Nero's DMC4 design was a masterclass in the use of colour contrast Nero's blue trousers and coat were offset really nicely by his red hoodie, Order symbol on his coat, and the red on the inside of his rolled-up sleeves. This is also exemplified through other things like his blue devil Bringer offset by its red outer shell, the orange and red fire effects on his red queen contrasted by the ethereal blue effects of his DT ETC. Even his weapons reference this (Blue Rose and Red Queen) and even have red and blue highlights on each respectively. This was done to convey that Nero combines Vergil's no-nonsense attitude with Dante's Passionate personality (as well as just to make his design more dynamic.) and it succeeds on all counts. DMC5's design is lacking this a fair bit in comparison. It's still there, but the red on his shirt his much less saturated, the red on his rolled-up sleeves and the red arm symbol is gone completely, and it's toned down a little on his effects too (the muzzle flash on Blue Rose is no longer blue for example). His default Devil Breaker is also blue, to match the rest of the outfit rather than contrast it like the Devil Bringer did in DMC4. Don't get me wrong, I still love DMC5's design and even prefer it overall, but the less masterful use of colour was a shame to see. Hopefully, it doesn't toned-down more in DMC6.
Nero in DMC 5 became my favorite character , his style of game play and his development as a character just awesome
I'm satisfied with DMC5 on so many levels. They did Nero justice, they gave him a more self-reflective character arc and, actually, they gave a character arc to all 3 main protagonists. Not entirely sure on Virgil's conclusion, but he at least shouldn't be trying to harness OP demonic powers anymore. I think Nero can take the lead without Dante now, living his own story, facing his own set of super villains that don't even need to be tied to Sparda.
I'm supprised you didn't mention that his new character design also brings him closer to the design of his father.
Now this is how you pass the torch from one main character to another. After playing both DMC 4 and 5 I feel Nero has earned his place as the focus of the series. Not many series can get it right but DMC 5 does it beautifully I love playing at Nero and its a joy to experience his growth throughout 4 and 5. Thanks for the video I love watching stuff like this!!
I liked the DMC 5 design much more. He seems more relaxed and comfortable in his own skin. The design in 4 was too much like Dante to enjoy
Me and my SO just finished playing DMC5 which was our first Devil May Cry. Glad I get to watch this vid in a timely manner! The context you provide is super insightful. I love how the direction for the characters story telling directly reflects his visual evolution (and for the better!). I loved the comparisons you used in this video to other stories as well! Really fleshed things out and added fun context. As always, a great video Mark.
Thanks so much!
I just wish he still had long hair, that was the only thing I preferred about DMC4 Nero over DMC5 Nero. And maybe a DMC4 skin for DMC5 would be fun
On Nero's first design, I guess I wasn't that interested in him. But I did give him a chance, but that was it. The second one, I really like it, and yeah! I totally agree with you about Nero's second design being very loosely based on the reboot design which is pretty neat, and thanks to that, we get to have a Nero we appreciated more compared to when we first got introduced to him.
Dante - Cowboy Vergil - Samurai Nero - Knight
I always thought he was a biker/rocker but then DMC 4 and 5 kinda changed my mind to that too!🤠
DMC 5 Nero is already so iconic in dmc 4 he looks like a anime emo boy but now he looks like a real sparda boy and our boi dante looks so hot ass fuck.
I kinda liked DMC4 Nero. Had a cool gun and sword and a wicked arm - still kinda miss the way it looked, actually. But I'm glad they brought back his Devil Bringer powers - and now he has TWO. 😂 Would like to see how this - having four arms, or five, if you count the Devil Breaker - changes the way he fights in the future. I'd like to see Nero get some Devil Arms that aren't devils' arms. 😂 His Red Queen and Blue Rose are really good, solid, strong weapons, but I wouldn't mind seeing him using something else. Maybe some kinda of demonic fist weapon like what Dante has gotten in every instalment (except DMC2, but we don't talk about that LOL). Also, while it isn't really his thing, it might be cool if he also developed different "Styles" like Dante did in DMC3 and onwards. Like, maybe he has a Breaker-oriented Style, a Buster-oriented Style and/or maybe a Swordmaster-like Style. I'm curious to see how his powers evolve from here on out as someone with the potential to surpass Dante and Vergil. His lasr Devil Trigger form - that Susano'o-looking demon behind him like a Stand - was pretty cool in my opinion. I liked that a lot. His new Devil Trigger is epic too... but I wonder what would happen if he got his hands on something else like Yamato or Devil Sword Dante.
I dunno, I don't think having Nero take on MORE aspects from Dante's design would be a good idea, considering they've put so much effort into giving him his own distinct style and gameplay. Besides, demonic fist weapon? No need to make it an alternate weapon, since Nero's whole shtick is his fancy right arm... Although, they could go about adding more depth to each individual Breaker, possibly by giving them combos and special moves beyond just Breakages. Hell, make it so he can seamlessly flow from sword swings to breaker attacks, showing his improvement with the system, since he's had more than a month to get used to and incorporate it into his style. Still make them fragile, of course, so using them in combos is still risky, and don't go crazy with alternate combo paths.
You know what? I don't really dig the short hairstyle. I think if he kept it's length and swept it back (akin to Hwoarang in Tekken), he'd look way better
@@thesilver7238 Cue the comments about looking like his old man... Actually don't think it's an objectively bad idea, but it would be weird for him to go from looking like knock-off Dante to having his own unique style, just to go for something that looks like Vergil's style.
@@thesilver7238 I feel the same. Nero looked pretty cool in 4. The hair, face, outfit and the Devil Bringer all looked good.
@@brandonbrown6922 Yeah. That sounds cool too. Whatever happens next, I'm keen to see mah boi, Nero grow to Dante's height as a Devil Hunter. I also dunno about the Style thing, but I definitely feel that they wasted three buttons by mapping Nero's Devil Trigger to the D-Pad. He doesn't really NEED more weapons, but it'd be nice to see some more variety in his fighting style in the next game, if it ever comes. LOL.
I love the direction they took with dmc5, even if I miss the castlevania anime-esque feel of the old games over the realistic modern look in 5, but nero definitely had a better story/overall design in 5 over 4.
Nero had long hair in dmc4 but he had cut his hair in dmc5 in asian countries especially Japan cutting hair means starting a new life which we saw in nero he had stopped being a knight and is a mechanic
I’m no devil but this video made me cry. This video was like watching an instructive video for space travel made by a flat earther. Some points were correct, but the rest were comparable to fucking a dead body at the funeral-it was just wrong and a horror to watch.
Dude wat
The beauty of Nero is that after shedding a tear for Vergil, he also wanted to redeem himself when it came to Vergil so after a while he was tutoring Nero through tough love as he wasnt used to getting close to others and he was family. He fought his brother, his father fought demons that were considered family. He wanted to break the cycle. Nero wanted to break it as well and did it in his own way. Now that Nero came into his own, Dante entrusted things to him. Dante was lazy and unmotivated but when it came to family, nothing ever lit a fire under him like that.
Dante is afraid of losing people like he did with his Mother, Mentor figure/ friend Nell and Vergil and that’s why he didn’t really want to get involved in Neros life and why he didn’t want Nero to experience that same pain by having to kill his father.
This really pulled my V Trigger. I thought Cody and Nero looked similar as well! Loved the analysis.
Cheers!
Brother Nero! I knew you'd come...
Wonderful! My brother has healed from his adeection and come to my comments section!
@@ArtistMarkFlynn not sure if you thought this yourself with the full Devil Trigger form of Nero with the green skin and red under his eyes I can't help but think of the Devilman design from the 70s TV series. Also speaking of Devilman, now there's a crossover I'd like to see happen with Devil May Cry. Character requests: Tails (the broken record keeps going, sorry about that), Ken Masters and Vergil.
I have a tails doc open on my computer lol it'll come, but still may be a way off as I'm doing stuff to tie in with the releases of animal crossing, Doom and final fantasy 7. But trust me. It will happen!
@@ArtistMarkFlynn awesome glad to hear so I now promise to stop asking for it near enough every video. Also I saw that, with the Doom and Animal Crossing, on twitter as you've got the giveaway on the go. Never been much of an Animal Crossing guy but I'll be sure to check out the Doom video, as well as the FFVII one. BTW what's the deal with all this Doom x Animal Crossing stuff, it's kinda unusual what with it being from one extreme to the other. Are they both coming out on the same day or something lol
@@DemonDethchase Yeah that's exactly it, same day releases so the fanbases have joined forces for wholesome content.
I’ve had this game on my list for a while now . Just keep forgetting to get it . Great video as always
Utterly tremendous game dude, well worth a play. Thanks as always for watching!
i recommend getting it on pc if you can; load times are crazy long for me on ps4. Quite annoying when you're doing secret missions, higher difficulties, or bloody palace
When DMC4 first came out I thought that both Nero's design and character was mediocre. A weak attempt at appealing to teens, and seeing how I was 19 at the time and about to "grow up", I found his additude to be a bit annoying and reminding me of parts of myself I wanted to distance myself from. And seeing how Dante was more over-the-top than ever, he was easily my preferd option when playing the game. Then the reboot came, and I saw what could happen when someone tried to do a Nero, but failed. Donte has way more in common with Nero than Dante, with the punk additude, disrespect for authority, edgyness and angst, except with none of the charm of either. I think the reboot is a fun game to play, but I can't stand Donte as a character, even of his design is ok when viewed as its own thing. Then DMC5 came and made Nero go from ok, to awesome. He's still a punk, but he feels more mature, his angst is toned down, but still feels earned, and his design takes the best parts from his DMC4 look and Donte and makes them work. I love Dante's look in DMC5, but I think Nero has the best design PC-design in the game (Nico and Lady have the best designs overall IMO). Great video man! Keep up the good work!
Cheers bro. Really appreciate the kind words. Glad someone else sees it from my perspective!
DMC 5 Nero's design is almost taken exactly from the Dante from Devil May Cry DMC the one between 4 and 5. And I can't lie, that DMC was personal favorite, the gameplay was so sick, and Vergil was fun af too.
I wouldn't have ever caught that connection to wrestling.
Neros play style in DMC5 brings me so much hope for the future of Nero and the series. I was always worried when Dante and his style system would eventually fade from the games in the future. With more fine tuning and being able to cycle through arms without breaking them I can't wait what the developers bring next title
Got yoself a like + new subscriber, the Nero vs Cody comparison was on point.
Cheers! Glad that comparison has gone down well!
If it wasn’t for DMC5, Nero would not be my favorite character. I still like him in DMC4 but god he is soooo good in DMC5. Cutting Nero’s hair was one of the best decisions they could have made for him. It works so well.
Nero for Smash!
Idk but I think it would be cool too if by Dmc6, they give Nero purple or any color between blue & red. Just sort of like a balance between his Vergil and Dante traits. Maybe leaning more towards red if Nero's more on Dante's side, or violet to indigo if Vergil's
That's Sparda's color
Good video bro!
Nero's jacket has always been navy blue not black.
Yo, just discovered your videos, LOVING them so far. Gotta say, though, and while I understand you have way more experience than me in video essays and far more of a following, I think that your audio mix is a bit off? The music overpowers you sometimes, and takes center stage. I actually went to mute DMC5 so I could focus on the video without the music drowning it out, thinking I had it running in the background, then realized it was your video.
Yeah I've had these comments a few times and not sure what I'm doing wrong! Put the voice over volume much higher and put the music volume down so low when editing, so I'm shocked people are having any problems. I'll keep trying to figure this out! Might be because I only ever edit with headphones that I'm not picking it up.
This is a fun analysis, thanks for putting it together! I would like to also point out that the devil breaker further serves to separate Dante's sensibilities from Nero's. For the most part, Dante uses devil arms (think old-school, great unknown power, etc) and his guns are not really that insane, like they could exist in real life. Well, okay, except Double Kalina Ann (but you could even say that that's purely because of Nico). But anyway, from the start, everything Nero has is super unique and "futuristic". The revving sword, his gun is double barreled, and now he's got a ROBOT ARM. Nero is like the new-school tech-enabled Devil Hunter. Even when getting his hands on a devil arm like Artemis, which was part of the demon body Lady was fused with, rather than Nico reconstructing it into the same laser gun from DMC3, she makes him two new Devil Breakers.
Man you made Nero’s rev’ing in the trailer way more important now. Awesome
Love this video dude! You should get more views than you're getting
Thanks dude. Appreciate that! Channel seems to go through ups and downs lol all I can do is keep powering on!
I like your analysis.
Thanks!
I like the new designs of Nero and Dante. Still stylish, but they look like something real people would wear. Not too "guess who's the main character at this anime" type lol
Yes! definitely. Loved Nero's look for this reason.
The Devil Breakers definitely add a bit of uniqueness to Nero's character and I love it
To be fair, Kyrie is basically Kingdom Hearts Kairi. Red hair, kidnapped love interest, as bland as cardboard. Theyre more or less the same functioning character.
You deserve much, much more attention!
Lol thanks! Recommend checking out my other videos if you enjoyed this one!
I did! Been subscribed for about a month now, love the content!
@@0de242 I'm glad! Thanks buddy :)
One thing that always struck me about dmc5 neros devil trigger was the spectral wing arms he gets. They remind me very heavily of Gore magalas wings in Monster Hunter. The whole claws clutching the shoulders so the wings can act as a cloak/cape is uncannily similar on both characters. It's curious, when both games are capcom IP's.
As a huge DMC fan I own em all. Nero is great in 5 and gotta say looks like Cody Rhodes quite a bit. Maybe if a DMC movie comes out get Cody Rhodes to play Nero
I really like the alternative outfit with the scarf, also very 2000s
Everything about nero fits like a glove for me, i really can't wait for him to grow even more if theres ever a dmc6
I didn’t hate Nero’s design in DMC4. I remember loving what he brought to the table gameplay-wise back in 2009. His devil bringer was (and is) dope af. That said, his design in DMC 5 is top notch and a serious improvement over his previous game. I agree with you in that DMC 5 succeeds in making him more than just “mini Dante”
Same here. I loved his gameplay and didn't hate the design, just thought something was missing! They'd better do a DMC6!
Originally I was really EHHHH about his look in DMC5 but in time it grew on me. I liked the way he looked in 4 and I was still cringing from DmC Donte
After playing DMC4SE I just noticed that there’s a striking resemblance between Nero’s DT form and the STANDO he had in DMC4
DMC4 was my introduction to the series as the first entry on Xbox, so I'm just glad to see that Nero has established himself within the fanbase after a decade of mixed reviews. He's a good boy under that gruff exterior.
I definitely don't hate 5 Nero's design. in fact, its grown om me, but his design in 4 will always be my favorite. as someone who loves drawing, I enjoyed sketching all the details in his clothes; it was a lot of fun for me. I do like the shift in style hes got going on, but the coat feels too short. the same can be said for 4 Dante, idk how he went from looking like a cowboy to homeless guy who found one of his old coats.
Yeah, not the biggest fan of Dantes design in 5 either. Probably my least favorite right near his DMC 1 outfit.
I love old nero look more
Imo,I kinda preferred nero's prototype design in 4 I really liked him in 4.I love nero's new design tho RIP devil bringer.Nice vid.
If I ever get a prosthetic arm I want it to look like Nero's Devil Breaker Overture
My favorite thing about Nero is that when you're in DT and you buster the enemies down they bounce up allowing you to to continue your combo after the buster.
I LOVED that Nero's Devil Breakers were designed by Shoji Kawamori! The designer of the Macros-SDF-1 and Co-designer of Dangaioh!
I think this guy is so on the mark with the cody rhodes comparison As soon as you get the buster arm Nero starts busting out pro wrestling moves like hes about to throw Mankind off Hell in a Cell to plummet 16ft. through the announcer's table.
Don't forget Rhodes pec tear is on his right while Nero's devil arm is on the right too it's by fate that they're basically the same dots in a different world and we a dmc fan that also a wrestling fan see the line between them
Lmao that ia a recent event that fits into this very well. Amazing.
I'm glad you told us this so long after we found out for ourselves
Told you what?
@@ArtistMarkFlynn "How devil may cry 5 improved Nero's design" We've been fully aware for a year now. Your video is of good quality even though it's old news.
3:25 I'm sorry, but did you say Nero's original design was by Kamiya? I'm going to have to ask for evidence on that one. DMC4 was well into the Itsuno years.
You're completely correct, I unfortunately got my names muddled. Will update the video description and pin a comment. Thank you!
I'm so grateful that this was my first time playing as Nero.❤️
The first one isn't that bad..
All chracters seems to have matured well. Maybe because Capcom have started using real models for their fictional characters. Great decision and would like to see other games to implement the same method. So glad we finally got DMC5. Still can't understand why Morrison got changed but it suits very well for the game. It should have been done way earlier.
I never noticed this before, but he was one of the first people ever rocking true wireless headphones.
about dante calling nero dead weight: he obviously doesn't actually think that, nor is he arrogant/delusional enough to think that he can for sure defeat urizen. the reason he said it was to get nero to retreat, he was simply trying to protect him
look, in my pov dmc 4 nero looks so freaking cool
24,000 views (thanks!) and not a single mention of me brushing my teeth.
Hill Im ready die on: Nero is designed to look like the design work that Capcom did for Dmc Dante. Not the original work that Ninja Theory did but the way that the character looks in the final game. Even his personality is a lot closer to Dmc Dante than any other character in The Devil May Cry series.
I have not noticed the Cody Rhodes similarity and now I cannot unsee it.
Before codys horrific tattoo
@@ArtistMarkFlynn the design itself is fine, just the placement is bad.
Honestly I kinda wished they kept his hair from 4. I don't hate his hair in 5 but I do prefer the original look
Fair play! I'm obviously the opposite but don't hate that original design either!
My general head canon is that its purposefully designed that way to make him look more like Vergil
@@jdizzy192 I think the developers said that was the reason why
The old design looks like emo dante. I prefer the newer one.
@@seraby7151 The new one looks a bit more like donte
I also like how Nero wears both colors of his Father & Uncle. His Jacket is Blue (Virgil) And his Shirt is Red (Dante)
Nero's Devil Bringer in DMC 4 was one of the best looking arms in fiction. I still wonder why the hell Capcom changed its design.
Well, it was used as a plot point in the game. Vergil stole it and Yamato to seperate himself into V and Urizen. Best guess why outside of that, they just wanted to experiment with new features for the arm.
@@christiancrusader9374 he means dmc 4 devil bringer design not gameplay or something like that and bruh dmc 4 devil bringer really looks alot better than dmc 5 one ;-;
I don't think it was ever meant to be permanent. It only came about because of an injury that reacted with his demonic power
I actually enjoyed DMC: Devil May Cry personally. Though tbf I was aware of the DMC series before but was never into it as I didn't own a system that could play it. DMC5 was the first DMC I actually sat down and played from being to end.
It's crazy how in the trailers for DMC5 made Nero look like he's gonna be a second version DMC:Devil May Cry Dante.
Nah I saw devil may cry and then saw that ichigo face and was like “hell yeah nero!!!!” Fuck a award rev
Now you gotta do Vergil.
Hey, I know am kinda late to the party but may ask: 3:24 Where did you got that Nero's desing was made by Hideki Kamiya? Kamiya didn't touch a single DMC after the very first one and by 2008 he was at Platinum. And besides, the game credits Tatsuya Yoshikawa as "Character Designer". So, where did you got that info? The closest thing I found was an article that points out the similarities between Nero and the protagonist of Scalebound as a ackwoledgement of Itsuno's work by Kamiya.
I just miss the hair lol. That's literally my only gripe with his new look but I can understand why it's a necessary change.
My first dmc game was dmc 4, always thought i was playing with Dante since the beginning lol
Do Vergil next!
You should do which snake has the best character design from metal gear solid (solid snake, old snake, big boss/naked snake, solidus, liquid, venom snake)
I remember when i first saw him when i was young i literally wouldnt believe its a devil may cry game because Dante wasnt the main character. I was dumb i know but as of now where i am older. I love the punk to death
i think dmc4 nero looks cooler, but the dmc5 design fits him better and makes him stand out more
One thing I love about Nero's design in 5 is that it retroactively makes 4's design better too
It's also amazing how they made the infamous "Fuck you" line into something almost poignant with Nero. With Donte from the reboot, it was just that character coming off as an edgy little prick who lacks personality and charm. While with Nero, it's very fitting to his attitude at the moment as he battles against the father he never knew he had until now.
It's very suiting while you're getting beat up by Demons in a harder difficulty then decided to snap and use DT 😂
You've GOT to change out that brushhead
The first video I ever watched from your content channel was the Cloud Design video, & that was a great well-made video. Then I saw the Dante Design video last month, & I loved it as well. Then last night, I watched the Nero Design video, & it was an amazing. I like DMC4 Nero but I understand why you mixed thoughts on him, & I can respect your opinions. But I 100% agree with you that DMC5 Nero has improved a lot, & is a better character in the game. I love DMC5 Nero in both design wise & character. I’ve watched those 3 videos, & I’ve decided to become a subscriber for this channel mainly because I enjoy content like this & I too love art. I look forward to more videos in the future. This is just a request I have, but if you ever have time, can you do a design evolution video on Leon S. Kennedy from Resident Evil? I’d love to see that happen. Thanks, & keep up the great work! 👍🏼
Cheers Kevin! I'll have an episode on Doom out tomorrow so keep an eye out for that! I'm doing some resident evil stuff for sure but I'm planning to start with Jill Valentine!
The Artist Mark Flynn I look forward to that Doom video. And that’s great that you’ll start with Jill for Resident Evil since the RE3 Remake is coming. It makes sense, & that’s perfectly fine since she’s my 2nd favorite RE character, with Leon as my favorite RE character & one of my favorite video game characters of all time. I look forward to the Resident Evil characters’ design videos from your channel. 😁