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00:00 Intro
00:17 The extra teams
01:37 MOUZ
02:23 NAVI
04:01 Cloud9
04:46 GamerLegion
05:44 Astralis
06:42 FaZe
08:15 G2
09:19 ENCE
10:31 Heroic
11:13 Vitality
12:45 Overall statistics
Missed siuhy from MOUZ! He is using the EC2-CW! konfig has switched to DAV3 Pro now that EPL started. Let me know here in the comments 👇 if you see some other players having swapped 👍. PS. The SteelSeries GG update now makes the Apex Pro boards similar in level to the Wooting!
Should've mentioned that the steelseries apex pro that some players are using now has rapid trigger with a firmware update, making it quite comparable to the wooting (although not as customizable). Otherwise great video as always 😁
@@hampustornros Agreed, sadly the gear checks were filmed before the SS update 😭
broky switched to a lamzu Atlantis which is crazy
@@Yinpeekthat mouse gud? Im thinking ab buying
@@SkyyKeiron it’s ok i used it for a month it’s like a lower profiled g pro superlight just making sure it fits your hand they just came out with one that can go 4k hertz so i would get that one
Would be interested in the wooting settings they are using.
Hello and thank you for your video! May i know what website you're using at this video to view players gear? Thanks again!
Hey @hausgaming, have you tried the latency on the VGN dragonfly with the 4k dongle?
i love that 'Overall statistics' part of the video. amazing work haus! also the next video card is blocking the graph at the end :(
Ohh fuck, thanks for letting me know!
Fixed 👍
Not that Volt’s sens at 560 edpi isn’t low, but it is the same or similar sens to many players. NiKo, Karrigan, b1t, and way higher than hallzerk’s sens from Complexity. Just pointing out that 560 definitely isn’t out of the norm Always enjoy these videos and the work you do Haus. Thanks!
I wonder if they have a fixation on something like getting exactly one pixel sized movements out of their mouse in-game. When I was 16 I would definitely have thought that way. :D But with the understanding of today, I'd just say it's not smooth and messes with your prediction. This week I tried the different DPI settings and polling rates in an Halo: Infinite bot match keeping a low sens of 25.5 cm / 10" per 360°. At 400 DPI the mouse was showing serious stair case patterns. 800 DPI was enough to make it _look_ smooth, but there's no harm in getting that extra bit of smooth feel at 1000+ DPI. For the polling rate, as my monitor only does 73 Hz overclocked, I wanted to see what happens if I make the refresh exactly 14 ms (using a custom resolution). That way at 500 Hz there would be exactly 7 mouse updates and perfectly smooth motion, but if I dropped to 250 Hz there would be 3 then 4 then 3 then 4 and I should see a funny vibration going on holding the mouse on a target while strafing. And sure enough that's what happened. On a high refresh rate it would be less noticeable, but for those who cannot get high FPS, it's a no cost and low effort way to improve aim I'm sure as going from 3 updates to 4 means the mouse just moved 33% farther this frame than the one before, also leading to a more cramped hand holding in an attempt to stabilize the aim.
Razer viper 8khz vs Orochi v2 vs Hyperx Pulsefire Haste which would u suggest me for playing valorant? i will be playing in 1000hz poling rate
great video. also very sad to see no Steelseries mice. it was very popular in the past.
Hopefully they will make a comeback soon!
SteelSeries Prime was supposed to do that not too long ago, perhaps marketing and sponsorship were not great.
i alwas had the zowie ec2-a. But i m thinking about to switch to the wireless.
I LOVE me a haus upload
If you are using 4k HZ polling rate, is it actually better to play fex: 800 DPI / 1 sens over 400 DPI / 2 sens?
And JL uses the viper v3 or what its called, the more flat viper v2 thats unreleased (And no not the cobra)
Niko is using zowie wireless, not sure which one but he showed on today stream
Thank you Haus for bringing us another Logitech Superlight goated video 🙏🏻
prefer the deathadder as thats what I use
Any opinion on Zaopin Z1 Pro?
I wonder why the pros don’t use mice like pulsar x2, xlite v2 or lamzu atlantis is CS/val. Also surprised to see vaxee XE and outset so heavily favoured compared to NP01s….
Np01s is pretty new, as for pulsar I've never had a pulsar mouse that didn't double click or had QC issues. I haven't used their new updated versions, but the original x2, xlite etc were definitely not pro level mice.
Because they simply an old geezer who afraid to change things. Their motto: if its not broken dont fix it.
sponsorships provide free stuff, if it works, no need to change. I'm curious to see the household-name benefit zowie has in the pro scene, i suppose when price is removed as a factor the wireless mice are attractive enough. additionally, most of them probably aren't peripheral enthusiasts like some folk, they just use the tool they're given and their skill carries the day.
Fnatic leo use lamzu thorn because they also do a collab lol , tenz also use lamzu atlantis
Ngl only zoomer pros using lamzu, pulsar, htx, artisan etc. That's why we're only seen this on apex/valorant/fn, most csgo pros doesn't mind the setup and 4k mouse, if it's still works they're gonna use it for a long time
Sponsorships have nothing to do with what they are using, since they aren't using all Razer or all Logitech most of the time. It's the tech, and they use these on there own set-ups. They just get the hookup from companies that they choose.
This is 100% wrong. If their contracts don’t require it, there may be incentives to use their products at events. When I played in pro league with Team Selfless, we would get additional trip funds if we performed with their products.
Wrong
NiKo is back on EC2-CW
Zywoo is on ec1w, his mouse seemed way bigger than flames ec2w when they won vs nip yesterday
I doubt it 🤔, he has at least has been on the EC2-CW for a fairly long time now
@@hausgaming He did use the ec1a wired way back when he was breaking out so i just figgured he likes big mice (And xtrfy m4 once when he fingertip gripped randomly) So i imagine its ec1 cuz he sideways tilt full palms exclusively ergo mice. I dont think they officially know confronted on the website and the dave3 is kinda an ec 1.5 so we cant tell based off of that but many top tier awpers oskar fallen allu device for example used the ec1 in their primes or like 2015-2018 and if i recall zywoo in his 1st year too (all 5 palm grippers)
@@hausgaming but fallen and device made the switch to ec2 at some point i tihnk
@@hausgaming now he is indeed on ec2 ur right, vs movistar riders
He is on Vaxee AX now
2:17 It will be interesting to see the Xlite V3 when it releases with a large version as well; that would possibly make a lot or EC1 users enjoy it ❤ 5:58 device is also probably using the new GPX 2 Wireless keyboard that has leaked a while as well, not just the G915. Seems that Logitech is updating all their GPX lineup.
So 16/50 using Zowie EC shapes and no teams in the top 10 with Zowie sponsor right? Reliable shape.
"to fully benefit from 4k. use at least 1600 dpi." hello my friend. Do you have any video for the explanation of this sentence you said in the video? Or can you give me a brief explanation? This word stuck in my head. because I recently owned 2 different 4k hz supported mice. if this is clear i will make my dpi level 1600 or higher.
more dpi = more data per movement so lower latency
From memory, using a higher dpi lets the mouse read more information. Therefore using a higher dpi allows the mouse polling rate at 4000 and also 1000hz, to be more saturated with information. He made I video on it I believe.
I have a lot of videos about it, I recommend you check them out (Any of the early Razer Viper 8K / Razer Avalon videos). Essentially, you need velocity to saturate the high polling rate, that increase in CPI makes it easier to reach a velocity where you are actually saturating the 4000hz polling rate. With 400 dpi you'd have to move the mouse extremely fast for even 2000hz.
Thank
The steelseries apex pro keyboards are kind of goated now as well with their rapid trigger implementation, the kyboards arent as nice quality and feature wise as a wooting, but the performance is basically the same in terms of responsiveness
Completely true! This video was filmed before the update, so it's somewhat outdated in that sense!
if a company made a mousepad with the quality of artisan and lgg but a closer feel to the qck, they'd make bank
Vaxee used to make one called Vaxee PB iirc, basically QCK Heavy but much more premium. The hefty price tag killed it tho
They need to make a wooting 60HE mouse equivalent. I want 0.1ms actuation and very easy clicks, that would be insane. I like my superlight but I definitely think that it could be improved with even easier to press switches.
Superlight 2 is put with optical switches right? Idk if that's as fast as you want.
@@hobosnake1Yes. If anything the only thing that would be the equivalent of the Wooting 60HE is a mouse that uses a double processor that allows clicks to bypass polling and be pushed in its own lane with top priority so to speak, sort of like the PS/2 mice of old but modern and basically leaving polling rate to the sensor and clicks be seperate. Zaunkoenig uses the double processor setup and it with 8000hz click polling is what allows them to have scary low delay last I remember. Apparently Finalmouse has done this with the UltralightX but we'll need multiple reviewers to go in-depth in reviews to see if this is even true or has any substance to it.
Thats interesting, I wonder why pros are dropping the XE wireless
Remember that the Top 10 has changed since 6 months ago! Many of the players that used XE Wireless do not play for any of the top 10 teams atm!
lamzu thorn Review?
Why the majority of pro players rather set the mouse at 400 dpi * high in-game sense? What is the advantage of having 400 dpi * 2 in-game sense over 1600 dpi * 0.5 in-game sense? I read once that 1600 dpi delivery a better smooth and fluid crosshair control. Is that a bs? thank you.
Now the question is ?why the superlight..?
because it's the best mouse i tried a bunch of shit over the years, finally got the superlight and it's worth the money
what's ur main?
I honestly am not sure :D
Can i still get CS2 beta access?
Take a shot every time you hear superlight 😂
That's a fun idea for the next one 😂
How many times did you say “deathadder v3 pro” lol
Take a shot everytime hausgaming says "nothing too interesting about this setup" I guess we could factor in sponsorships as a big factor in what they play with. Personally, it's sad that we don't see a lot of people using Steelseries gear these days. their mice and mousepads were synonymous to CS 1.6, Source, and early-CSGO
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4K Hz in a mouse is a great feature, but the difference it makes in tac shooters like CS are so minimal that it's not even worth draining your battery for. Pros like ScreaM still use 500 Hz and are performing just fine even at the highest level of competition. It's going to be at least another 5 years before 4K Hz becomes a new standard.
Maybe you notice no difference, cause your setup is shit, your PC is not optimized for performance, and you dont have an 360 hz or 390 hz Monitor. Indeed u wont see a difference with an 60 hz Monitor but with 240 hz, 360 hz and soon 500 hz you notice a big difference.
4K/1K is indistinguishable. I could drop my polling rate to 500 and it wouldn't make a difference.@@HeadoN1337
@@HeadoN1337for the average if not most gamers and consumers do have a setup that are not optimized. 4k mice is an overkill for most ppl and like he said it will take years for 4k to be a standard for average/casual gamers. If you have a rig that can take advantage of 4k mice then good but doesn’t mean he a has a “shit” setup
I wanna know what kinda cake Zywoo eats for performance
🦓
Any plans on doing mouse tierlist?
Yes, soon!
Did steel series gave up as a company?
The apex pro keyboard now has the same rapid trigger function as the wooting thanks to a firmware update. It's not as customizable as the wooting, but for most people it will be very comparable (and always in stock rather than having to wait 5 months to get one)
It's crazy how many pro's have average setups and are still on 400dpi When everything is about smoothness and responsiveness, you would think that a difference of 4/5 to 12ms would be such a huge and especially easy improvement that everyone would switch at once to 1600dpi? Thats almost the same improvement in latency you get from going from a 1080ti to a 4090 (12ms in overwatch)
650 edpi is insanely high my edpi is like 165
What's your sens??
1600 cpi and 0.85 in CS:GO
I'm surprised that noone is using the viper v2 pro. The specs and latency of that mouse are still top tier, probably third best after the RVMSE and the DAV3. Also it has been around for a while and these players seem to take their time with switching to new mice. I guess they don't like the shape of it.
some may find it too low. the fk2 is a similar shape that’s not too popular in csgo either, only XANTARES uses it. the viper v2 pro was also used by nafany for quite a while.
Too low. Early complaining on Twitter by a few of these pros that they were lacking grip and fingers were getting cramps in long matches. It died off in popularity quickly.
@@8020Alive Yeah my brother really likes the Viper V2 Pro but i can't even play for 10 minutes with that mouse without fidgeting or adjusting my grip constantly. I find the Deathadder V3 Pro much more comfortable, the previous DAv2 Pro feels horrendous to use since the flair was too aggressive and the right side is so uncomfortable to rest my ring + pinky fingers on. My previous mice was the G403 and it was getting outdated quite fast, the DAv3 Pro is prob the best thing i could find that is close to the G403 with high-end hardware
Why do so many players use 400 dpi? Genuine question
All the way from 1.6 and new pros copy setting from old pros hence such a low dpi.
@@dacelu Exactly!
low dpi flick enemy more fast
ec2-cw making a comeback
Idd!
EC2-CW > DAV3 and yes I own both
why would u say that
Niko is on the deathadder faker edition, saw him 100 of times cuz i watch all games the mouse isnt a red superlight
Yeh I know, he is listed to be on the DAV3 Faker edition on this video as well.
i have gpx and this mouse is overrated, shape of the mouse is worse than my previous steelseries sensei ten for CS but it's good for all around usage
What Make you pro is makro and mechanical in game not gaming gear
Traditionalist cs pros. So many still using 400dpi :/
Whats wrong 400dpi?
@@emret7135 dpi, also called cpi, is dots(counts) per inch. literally it means how much information per inch is conveyed from the sensor. Higher dpi is objectively better with lower latency times and, in the case of high sens players, less pixel skipping. Optimum Tech has a great video called "why gamers are switching to high dpi" or something like that which shows the large variance in motion latency dependent on dpi and not mouse hz although that too affects it.
no viper ult ?
a bit outdated, superseded by Viper V2 Pro
400dpi with 4k polling is just hurts to watch
why so many pros using xtrfy keyboards?
sponsorships
if you look at valorant champions i think you'd have more fun with more diversity in mousepads and mice quit interesting
boardzy inspiration
I think I made a video like this before anyone else 😅
The Cs pros setup are so lame! almost no difference from the previous video a year ago
Do valorant
Does Valorant have a top 10 ranking somewhere?
is that f0rest?!