Shaq started beefing with Dwight Howard over who deserved the title of Superman...and never stopped
2019 ж. 28 Қаң.
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There are lots of similarities between the personal arcs of Shaquille O'Neal and Dwight Howard. There are also lots and lots of differences, from their team accomplishments to their styles of play to their personalities. Weirdly, both the ways in which Dwight and Shaq are the same and the ways in which they aren't have helped fuel a very weird, very long, very dumb beef.
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So basically Dwight was super respectful and honoured Shaq but the big man still got pissed... ok man
The thing I hate most about Shaq is he acts like he worked extremely hard on his game when in reality he was constantly out of shape and Kobe has said he thinks if he had a better work ethic he would have more rings, but he gets to bully players who look up to him and tell them to work hard to get a ring. Such a hypocrite.
aja3longhorn well Shaq is a contender for best center ever so he has the right to talk trash.
Well,not really.You can tell that Shaq wants Dwight to stop thinking he’s Superman but Dwight keeps copying Shaq.If a dude called himself “the black mamba”,then everyone would be pissed off.but because Shaq has quite the personality,everyone’s defending Dwight.
@@2kmichaeljordan438 People has called Devin Booker the new mamba. Kobe at the age of 36+ wasn't bullying a kid 13 years his senior and Dwight looked up to Shaq. Everyone has their own idol that they want to be like, all Dwight wanted was recogniton and support from Shaq not taunting. Maybe Shaq should be like Dwayne Wade, he gave Shawn Huerter his shirt and gave the dude some love unlike what Shaq did to Dwight.
Tinted Media Shaq is basically insecure and he shouldn’t be. He had a wonderful career; he has 4 rings and arguably a top 5 center of all time. It’s natural that guys want to be like you. I mean, do you see Jordan getting pissed at Kobe or Lebron wearing the number 24 and 23 respectively? Hell, Jordan even gave Kobe proper advice and calls him his little brother. Shaq could’ve done the same to Dwight.
Stephen Hawking has an IQ of 160. Shaq: Yah but I got 4 rings. How many he have?
I'd rather have 4 rings tbh
Michael Price he made up a theory that’s used around the world
@@israelitehua2427 I am aware. Still rather have 4 rings....
@@michaelprice5399 that's why you're a loser
😂
I feel bad for Dwight he wants advice from one of the greatest bigs ever and Shaq just goes and does all this
Cuz shaq a fool. Too Big of an ego
I think it all started when people called Dwight Howard "Superman". As we all know, Shaq can at times, be a big baby and this hurt his feelings. We all know Shaq's original nickname was Diesel not Superman or any of the other self-given nicknames; Shaqtus (this ones actually pretty funny), The big Shamrock, Shaq daddy.
Well thats dumb of him to think other people will react exactly the same ways as he did to whatever "motivations" were given, esp after dwight repeatedly said he's hurt by the drama queen. I grew up watching shaq and kobe and theyre my childhood heroes but after this vid im happy with jus kobe
It's called tough love, the same thing Shaq and everyone else who became great got, including Jordan. Wilt called out Kareem. It's supposed to motivate you to earn your respect, but obviously the culture of the world has change and that's why Dwight was so hurt.
@@DingisMaximus Shaq don't even love Dwight. You have to love someone in order to show tough love. Shaq's ego got hurt cuz really he's a super sensitive guy who's easily offended at anything. Just watch TNT and see how Shaq responds when Charles tells a lighthearted joke.
Imagine being 6’10 and being called too short for something.
When u are in the nba makes sense
He’s not actually 6’10
The NBA is the land of giants and freak athletes. It takes more than just being tall, but tall can definitely get you places in the NBA
Your username predicted the future.
@@xavwill4807 he is roughly 6'10 (6'9.8), then 6'11 with shoes
It’s gonna be so funny if Dwight Howard and Javale McGee win a chip together on the Lakers...
It will bother him some since he was calling em both clumsy and goofy, now they actually putting in work in the gym nun stop shaq has yet to comment about em now bc they ignore his ass and are focused on a ring and improving in their weak areas of basketball. Plus shaq ass cant talk when he wasnt in the gym to prolong his career more like kobe.
Yeah that sounds like a riot
They will
Joel Johnson that’s the joke bud. Shaq and Kobe, Dwight and Javale.
Yeah but Shaq's got 4 rings, he'll probably say something about 4>1
I honestly feel bad for Dwight he was a top five player for a decent amount of time and now he’s the butt of everyone’s jokes.
...I see what you did there.
Anthony Joseph you think you slick😂i see what you did there...
W
Yea, I used to love dwight Howard, but now hes more like White Howard... although I will say that Howard could probably make it well in Hollywood if he took acting seriously, his impersonations are pretty good
Badum tss
Dwight Howard 8x All Star 8x All NBA 6x All Defensive 3x DPOY 5x Rebound Champion 2x Block Champion PLEASE STOP DISRESPECTING HIM .
@Joel Pettit that's your momma
Not to mention his dunk contest win 😂
He'll be in the hall of fame. Not sure that means all that much now, but he's very good. Haters gonna hate.
Joel Pettit hehe clown emoji, clever
Zack Eaton and 2020 NBA champion.
I don't understand Shaq - he's really big, really strong, super rich, super famous, incredibly successful - and yet, he seems very insecure as a person??
Facts
@MUFC omg who the hell cares which one is more popular
@MUFC all that and your still call it soccer 🤦♂️
@MUFC okay. what does this have to do with the topic at hand?
Very girly acting. If he reminds Charles Barkley about his rings 1 more time I'm gone loose my mind!
I love Shaq, but he is petty as hell, childish, gets butt hurt easily and a bit of a bully sometimes.
Claudia Roberts Exactly. Starting a beef with someone just because they have the same nickname as you? A nickname that you don’t even own??
I like the guy but he can’t take as much as he dishes, he gets offended quite easily it seems
I agree with all of this except the 'loving Shaq' part!
Kobe called him out to his face about bullying people.
I hate shaq, great player but terrible person
Shaq gets butthurt so easily no matter what is in question
And I thought 50 Cent was petty, sheesh. Shaq might be on another level of pettiness.
At least he had a good career how many rings dwight Howard have?
Dwight gets butthurt too but for a different reason....
😂😂😂
Shaq is still the better player so it doesn't matter
Kobe was blessed to not have MJ treated him like this
Mj wasnt a big baby bully
@shaq was to sensitive. He's immature according to kareem.
if mj treated kobe like that then kobe would probably drop 80 points per game on mj LOL
It’s cos Kobe earned mj’s respect by pushing himself. He didn’t take it seriously and learnt from mj’s criticism. Especially when Mj said he’d never fill his shoes. Then Kobe goes and drops 54 points on him
Seriously
This kind of pissed me off. Dwight was just wanting to get advise from a big man he admired his whole life and look up to him, but a 40 year old man is getting mad at not getting called Superman and literally hurts Dwight.
Tbf Dwight did have a couple of occasions where he would mock Shaq so..🤷🏽♂️
Shaq is here getting mad over a comic book character. Man is literally a 46 year old kindergartener
Subscribe to me for no reason why are you offending kindergarteners
@@madisonfisk6399 Agreed. Thats blatant kindergartenerism
Afnaan Syed Stop. Quit teasing this adult, you’re acting like he’s a kindergartener.
You should see him on tnt lmfao
Rusty we’re not acting like he’s a kindergartener, it’s just a god damn joke.
Howard low-key one of the most disrespected players ever
He was the top center for a decade and people treat him like a joke.
@@___________________. ya its the back injury that made him fall off. I feel bad for the guy.
Dwight and his rims lol
Harden4MVP Top Center in the league for a decade? Which decade was that?
Mr Hankey 2004-2012/13 so 8 years but still lmao
Shaq is the textbook definition of "never meet your heroes."
What's interesting about both of them is that they never won a ring with Orlando, but did it with the Lakers instead.
I mean, Dwight did win a ring IN Orlando...
@@samuelstensgaard4828 lololol
@@brianscalabrine2225 being a magic fan is suffering
Difference is Dwight was barely a contribution to the championship
@@samuelstensgaard4828 I don't get it someone pls explain
I love Shaq, but he was EASILY in the wrong here.
lDab4VC i love Shaq but he’s very petty
@Und Casanova Frankonstein and Shaq ain't soft for crying over a nickname that he gave to himself?
@Und Casanova Frankonstein Saying Shaq is hard is like saying sky is orange
@Und Casanova Frankonstein lol you're telling @fedora to learn to read but he could tell you the same thing because he never said Dwight is harder than Shaq either..... pot meet kettle
@Und Casanova Frankonstein lmao! So you're the only one who is allowed to come to conclusions? Maybe just maybe you're not as smart as you think you are.
Dwight was actually REALLY good before his serious back injury, y’all forgetting
Oghoanina Real talk
If he was truly skilled he would have been effective even though his back was injured. The fact is that he was all athleticism and no skill.
Facts lol
RainmakerHD bro wtf u been lmaoo
@@TheChristian50 whats up man. Reading these comments then saw OG and was like "ayyyyee"
Let's be honest here, Howard was the last true center that you could actually build around. His years in Orlando. Man oh man
Andrew bogut
TheSmigko nh
Denver seem to be doing pretty well building around Jokic.
Embiid? Jokic?
Kat
Who here’s after shaq said dwight doesn’t deserve his ring
Very petty
He could literally win against the 96 Bulls by himself and Shaq would still say it doesn't count.
Shaq straight bullied Dwight like damn imagine getting roasted by your childhood hero
David Robinson did it to him according to Shaq. Of course it wasn’t true but Shaq held that grudge and took it out on the next up and coming big man. Dwight was done no justice with the Superman gimmick, but I felt like Shaq was gonna do it on whoever became the next great big. Hurt people hurt others.
Never meet your heros
@@PBMdanya I think you're spot on with "he was gonna do it to whoever came next" 👍
Shaq bullies everybody cause he's insecure.
@@PBMdanya he admitted that b.s. story about the admiral. Like a man of David Robinson's character would do something that petty.
Howard was so nice and respectful to Shaq, doing Superman as a tribute, I don’t know what Shaq got mad for
dominustin because he’s so insecure that he actually got offended by it 😕
@@dafyddshort4777 fax I like shaq but dude is childish asf
Isaiah Armand yeah same and the point you made is very true 😂
Insecurities
Because shaq is a man child in a 7 foot 1 inch body
Who’s here after shaq’s saltiness on Dwight over his role en route to the championship on his podcast
yea...this one is really uncalled for, I mean not this year.
It’s funny because Shaq was praising Dwight earlier in the season
@@kevtastic141 Yh
😄🖐
@@kevtastic141 Yeah, but he could always fall back on the "but he still doesn't have a ring." Now that he has one Shaq looks like even more of a baby.
And now Shaq throws more shots at Dwight. Just let the man enjoy his ring he played a big role in winning a ring.
He didnt play a big role..he just coasted on LeChina and ADs coattails
The nuggets series didn’t happen?
Out of all the nicknames Shaq has ever given himself he forget one: The BS- The Big Sensitive.
Haha, just seen this, I thought the same.
😆
LMAO
Barkley already gave him a similar nickname: Mr. Sensitive
Dwight would be so much better right now but he got his feelings hurt when Shaq said he was only a pick and roll player and now Dwight always goes to get more low post touches when his previous style of play would be perfect for today's NBA.
I gave you a like dawg oh yeah yeah
He could never be shaq shaq average 30 and 15
Oh yeah yeah
@@bruh-br8bi oh yeah yeah
@@johnjoseph9494 oh yeah yeah
Why’s no one talking about Dwight’s impersonation of Shaq it was so accurate 😂
You have to update this after what shaq said about Howard after the kobe interview!
Dane Christian that’s why I’m here I got the video right after I watched the fumble video on that 😂
I can't find the interview. What did he say?
@Lil Will what was it?
"You're not Superman, I'm Superman." "I'm Superman." "Nooo, _I'M_ Superman!" "I'm Superman." "😡"
Clearly, one of these guys is actually a robot who's going to destroy Central City.
Literally the fights we had when we were playing as kids. 🤣🤣
This wasn't a beef, Shaq's just a bully
Snowflake.
@@americanIDOLfan11111 Is it bad that i read that in shaq's voice?
well youre right.. remember that yao ming comment?
"He grew up idolizing Kareem and when he got to the League, he felt like he had to earn the respect of greats like Hakeem and Patrick." Except as your own Beef video on Shaq vs. David Robinson pointed out, he never felt that way. When Shaq came into the League he was already quite entitled and when other vets tried to give him a "welcome to the NBA" lesson in the NBA All-Star Game, he called them all jealous of him.
It's just how Shaq justifies being a shitty "gatekeeper" of his position, even if it didn't happen.
We need update on this beef
And DeMarcus Cousins could also be dragged into it now that he could be playing in Taiwan as well.
Can we just... appreciate how spot-on Dwight's impressions are?
They're not tho.
Are they though....?
Yes they are
He has a good Barkley One
I mean if you have to say who you’re impersonating, like Dwight did at one point with ‘that’s shaq’ Then your impersonations aren’t spot on
Y'all's beef history videos have gotten so much better. They're paced better, are more fleshed out and researched, and are just generally more entertaining. Great job taking the concept and making it better and better with time.
Agreeable statement.
Y'all's
Dwight: I'm shaq I can't make freethrows Dwight teamates: you can't make them either
Did you already forget that shock has four rings I'm a soccer fan and I know this the man is insecure as f***
he was method acting
Here after the tmz video, 2019 and Shaq is still being petty lmaoo
and his tweet to Kobe
Shaq is the most insecure superstar in the history of sports
Sean Kelly with Kevin Durant the runner up, for sure
Nah that would be LeBron James, but Shaq is definitely not far behind him
Miguel Sánchez not really LeBron its hard to be insecure when everybody is gassing you up calling you the greatest everyday. KD on the other hand gives shaq a run for his money
Nope its kobe
Shaq and Lebron share that title! Shaq can’t take a joke and Lebron has to make sure we know all about him
Shaq is a bully, period. Just watch him on set with EJ, Kenny and Chuck. He's always pushing people around, threatening to smack them or belittle them in one way or another. It's too bad Dwight's career didn't turn out as great, but if I had a birthday party and could invite Dwight or Shaq, it'll be Dwight for sure!
shenqiangshou exactly.. Dwight is who you invite to a birthday party to cut up with but Shaq is who you call to play ball.
@@Hoopandgent That sounds like something Shaq Dipshit would say
Wtf are you on about
4 rings < this dude's birthday party
People perceive others as bullies because they're intimidated by them. Doesn't mean the person being perceived as a bully intends to bully anyone. They may just genuinely be trying to have fun and joke.
Shaq is a bully, I feel bad for Dwight
Welp now Dwight has won as a Laker, in Orlando. He’s gonna get even more pissed
Dwight is honestly one of the saddest stories in the NBA he was never respected by other players as a whole and he was ultimately unable to replicate his prime years and he never had an elite guard to play with like some of the all time great big men Shaq had Penny, Kobe, and Wade Kareem had Oscar and Magic Russell had Cousy, Havlicek, and Jones Wilt had West there are a lot more examples but you get the picture prime Dwight need to be paired with someone like Chris Paul or Derick Rose (had he been healthy) and he could have been a champion, maybe an MVP, and maybe have a case for being a top 10 to 15 center all time (not to say Dwight is on their level, but for a time he was viewed like AD and Joel Embiid are viewed now as guys who have the skill and potential to be all time great big men and Dwight for about 5 years was that)
the Dream had Kenny Smith LMFAOOOOOOO
A lot of the negative on the court decisions is on Dwight, but he does get disrespected a lot and at times I feel for the guy cause I'm sure he's a good dude.
Dwight is definitely a top 10 center of all time
@@Rodddy nope...at least arguably but not definitely top 10, Kareem, Russel, Wilt, the Dream, Shaq, David Robinson, Moses Malone, and Patrick Ewing were all unquestionably better than Dwight, then Dikembe Mutumbo, Dave Cowens, Robert Parrish, Willis Reed, Alonzo Mourning, and probably even Marc Gasol or Wes Unseld can easily be argued to have been better than him
@@yank33sptg this dude said marc gasol over dwight howard you can't be serious
Shaq is a giant baby. His immaturity is what ruined his relationship with kobe as well
I always thought he was a fine guy. And i still think that. I think your over exaggerating
Josh lmao I guess you was in the Lakers locker room
And with Penny lol
@@josiahk.2048 *you're
Rule Tom Nope. Do research. Shaw’s pride and ego is why he left Orlando and why he beefed with Kobe. It’s also one of the reasons he’s always yelling at Chuck.
"Two grown men arguing about who gets to cosplay a superhero character". Yep. Pretty much sums it up.
It's mostly that fact that by calling himself superman, Dwight implied that he was on Shaq's level.. which we all know he's not.
Shaq shoulda got the name Big Baby instead of Glen Davis
This low key makes me feel bad for Dwight. He kinda came in as a young kid trynna be like his hero but his hero said the kid wasn’t good enough. Usually the hero would teach the kid a lesson until he was good enough. But this is real life, Shaq didn’t past the torch and now Dwight is “butt hurt”.
his hero was KG tho. He just got compared to Shaq cause Orlando
CPGoat #3 True
Dominique Flores ha, but hurt, I get it😂😂😂
I think because Shaq didnt get that treatment. People forget that Shaq caught hell when he came into the league. David Robinson, Hakeem, Ewing etc...all of those guys hated Shaq and gave him hell on the court. So he wasn't trying to Baby Dwight.
Never meet your heroes
Howard gets disrespected just cause hes a "nice guy" SMH
facts, people hate on him cause he smiles.
How is he nice
Or he didn’t win anything and won’t win anything
+Mous TM Media is always saying that Dwight is too soft and nice
@@moustm4698 have u seen him he actually really nice and dont deserve the hate if the back surgery never happened he prolly won more defensive player of the year awards
These are so great, guys. Keep'em coming!
Dwight can finally talk to Shaq now
In conclusion: Shaq gets butthurt figuratively, Dwight gets butthurt literally.
dinogee it came out it was fake but ok
556Bmoney naw he was getting barebacked.
@@Eagles2020 Hes talking about dwights ass injury not gay allegations
Underrated comment lol
Best comment
It made me think about Yao. Shaq didn't quite like Yao when he first entered the league, but Yao ultimately won his respect. But for Dwight Howard's case, I think Dwight would never turn it around.
maybe it's because Yao was Asian and it's odd to see Asian beat up player like Shaq. And also maybe Shaq felt Yao isn't comparable for him, he had different playstyle as Shaq. In case of Dwight, he is American, Athletic, and also drafted 1st in Magic just like Shaq. Dwight never turn it around because of that Superman imitation and also a salty Shaq
Yao bullied Shaq
It’s cos Yao earned his respect
It's cuz Shaq's butthurt over the Superman stuff lol
Shaq afraid he gets replaced as best center in Orlando
7:50 WHEN DWIGHT IS SUS 😳😳😳
Aaaaand they aree beefing again
So Shaq got his feelings hurt?......Again
Shaq is the most sensitive 7 foot giant i've ever seen.
Facts
What about Embiid
I love these watched every episode I need some new one's 🙏🙏
Shaq - "If you woulda said something like that about me I would've punched you in the face" Barkley - "First of all, you're not that good of a fighter." 🤣🤣🤣 I respect the hell outta shaq on the court but he really is an emotional 12 year old
I can’t believe you haven’t done JaVale Magee vs Shaquille O’Neal yet they definitely had a crazy beef
Shaq complains about everything and says he's just marketing.
great production quality here... love all the HR imagery/transitions - - Kudos!
Now he's an NBA champ, good for him :)
Shaq unachieved too but uses "Most Dominate Ever" as an excuse for his ego. His lack of work ethic, ego, and not controlling his weight derailed what could've been the best career all-time.
Jalen Davis agreed, if he did what you talked about, he could have been in the goat conversation
Shaq got 4 rings. I'll that kind of underachieving any day.
@@xaviervega468 4 is underachieving when he easily could've gotten 2 more with Kobe. He could've easily retired at 6 with a higher ranking for all-time points and fewer injuries.
@Simon Dewitt Hakeem dominated Shaq. Shaq's great, but not the best ever.
Shaq did average 28-12-6 on that finals btw. Dream played better and scored more, but it was mostly Orlando as a team didnt match up. People say Hakeem shut Shaq down, thats simply false, 60% from the field with those numbers, and actually more blocks than Hakeem.
"I can't shoot free throws, but I can dunk the ball." So Dwight impersonated Shaq on the court, too.
Love these jawns 🙏🏾🙏🏾
How you gonna beef bout a name that neither one of y’all deserve 😂😂. Christopher Reeve is Superman 😂😂😂
G
What has four wheels and sits at the top of the stairs?
Tim Carter idk
I’m still waiting for the punchline
Shaq sensitive af
Howard is also sensitive. But shaq is like a defensive and quick to point fingers type of sensitive, howard is like a Pat my back and try to laugh it off type of sensitive
@@_Maxten howard isnt sensitive. He constantly wanted shaq to stop bothering him and shaq never did.
Simple if he actin all 😔😔 about it then he is sensitive. He in his feelings
14:37 "LAST MAN WHO CALLED HIMSELF SUPERMAN STILL AINT GOT NO RINGS!" -lol
Love your videos. Especially rewinders. Can yall do some on cricket?
No one: Shaq: “I GOT FOUR RINGS”
And got carried by D-Wade. kobe should’ve won the FMVP in ‘01
I mean come on! I like Kobe and Shaq, but Shaq was the dude for those three peat teams. They wouldn't win without Bryant, but they don't make the finals without Shaq.
@@jazmenwilliams7907 no they were both equally important to the team. Really Kobe moreso since (contrary to popular belief) made other teammates better largely due to his unheard of work ethic that motivated teammates to be work harder. Shaq was a terrible teammate as well. People get on kobe but he would be straight up cruel to dudes. Shaq proudly stated of TnT that he would even let role players talk to him smdh. Kobe, without any HoFers, won 2 more rings IN THE WEST without shaq. Shaq got carried to a ring in Miami. Kobe clutched out those finals with shaq. Even during the glory days: Kobe > Shaq. Thats why the lakers chose kobe not shaq
@@jdrmanmusiqking you don't think Paul Gasol helped turn around the Lakers. He went to three finals in a row. I consider PG a hall of famer if players way worse get in!
Well kings and blazers would argue with that rings.
ya shaq is def petty. just look at how he treats barkely
I would say to look on how he treats Kenny. Specially last episode when Shaq went beyond petty.
@@sergiomorfo its pretty much everyone minus Ernie
@@sergiomorfo what happened?
@last of a dying breed hmmm ... basically he told Kenny to stay in his lane on a very aggresive tone (like he was pissed at Kenny for some odd reason). I am gonna leave the link here so you can see it for yourself: kzhead.info/sun/naqIdsmNsJ9reoE/bejne.html
@@sergiomorfo I wish they would of bring Hakeem on one episode. And say that Shaq is beneath him and how he made him cry. Or Kareem saying he isn't on his level.
Dwight’s mistake was looking to shaq for heartfelt advice and guidance he should’ve gone to a David Robinson or a bill Russell
Big facts
Both of those guys were long retired by the time Howard was drafted.
@@middleeastern5796 You can still learn from them lol it’s not like they forgot how to play basketball just because they got old
@@middleeastern5796 Robinson was only 38
Damn imagine if Michael did Kobe how shaq did Dwight smh where would we be
Lmao Kobe would’ve had about 50 championships we all know what happens when Kobe is pissed off
@@Nationof300 he wouldn’t have non cause Kobe got all his moves from mike
@@demetriussmith9234 so you think kobe started to learn how to play basketball when he was already in the nba?? lmao kobe would've been fine he's not sensitive like dwight or shaq
@@theilluzionist3565 😂 Kobe asked Mike for all his drill and everything. He shared all his moves. Don’t act like most of Kobe’s moves aren’t Mikes let’s be real here
@@theilluzionist3565 Kobe was a sensitive crybaby
“Grown men quarreling over who gets to cosplay as a comic book character is extremely dumb.” It wouldn’t be a beef with Shaq if it wasn’t extremely dumb.
Dwight Howard "underperformed expectations" is the stupidest damn thing I've ever heard in sports. Career playoff averages of 18.4 PPG 13.8 RPG 2.5 BPG on 59.5 TS% Dwight is tied at 20th for most 1st Team All NBA selections. He has more appearances there than: Dirk, KG, David Robinson, Havlicek, CP3, Moses Malone, Nash, Iverson, Pippen, Gary Payton, John Stockton, T-Mac, D Wade, Ewing, Drexler & Isiaih Thomas. Westbrook & Curry are both 30 years old. By age 26, Dwight Howard had more 1st Team all NBA appearances than both of these MVP winners currently have combined. Even when you include players from the pace-inflated, pre-3PT line era there's only 7 men in history to retire with those averages (all Hall of Famers): Duncan, KAJ, Shaq, D Robinson, Ewing, Hakeem & Elvin Hayes. Anthony Davis is the only other current player with a pace for it, but that's a long way off compared to Dwight's near 100 post-season games over the course of the last decade and a half. Only 9 men in basketball history have won DPOY multiple times. Only 3 have won it 3 times or more, Dikembe Mutombo, Ben Wallace & Dwight Howard. No player, besides Dwight Howard, has ever won the award 3 times consecutively. At age 23, Dwight carried an Orlando Magic franchise to the NBA Finals. That's the same age Karl Towns is right now, in threat of missing the playoffs. That's 2 years younger than Anthony Davis, at risk of doing the same as KAT. But that run is so incredible and somehow so forgotten in Dwight's career. KG or no KG, the Celtics were still the defending NBA champs with home court advantage in the 2nd round vs Dwight. Over the course of the '09 postseason, Rondo nearly averaged a triple double with 16.9/9.8/9.7 & 2.5 SPG. Pierce & Ray averaged a combined 40 PPG. Even Kendrick Perkins averaged just shy of 12 & 12 as a textbook kind of physical Dwight-stopper. Dwight stopper or no, Howard led every game of the 2nd round series in rebounding as the Magic advanced to the ECF. Against the "Chosen One" Lebron James at his peak, Dwight averaged 26/13/3 on 65.1 FG%. This is the crowning series of his career, arguably, and a complete decimation of the Eastern Conference favorite & supposed best player in the league that season (Lebron '09 MVP). Dwight even averaged 4.0 BPG in the NBA Finals against the dynastic, all time Lakers. His defensive presence held Kobe Bryant, one of the game's most ruthless scorers at the height of his proficiency, to 43.0 FG%. Howard set the NBA record for most blocks in a single Finals game during that series, 9, in a 16 point & 21 rebound performance. This run, title or not, is made more special by the absence of '09 All Star Jameer Nelson. Jameer was limited to 5 games the entire post-season, all in the Finals, and averaged 18 MPG & 3.8 PPG. His shoulder surgery was supposed to be season ending but the Magic were so desperate to put ANYTHING around Dwight vs LA that Jameer gutted through 5 horrible games. Dwight reached the Finals with no superstar wingman, no Kobe to his Shaq, no Stockton to his Malone, no Curry/WB to his Durant, no Pippen to his Jordan. Rashard Lewis was the biggest overpay of his era, Vince was a role player caliber starter by the time he joined Dwight, Turkoglu was a fine but not special player. And same for Jameer. Allen Iverson was lionized for working his way through a weak Eastern Conference and taking one game off an incredible Lakers team. AI's run included a remarkably controversial series against the Bucks, marred by bad officiating. Dwight secured a clean Conference Finals victory over one of the most accomplished players in the history of sports, in his prime. Why does Dwight get no love? Why do people pretend Dwight held something back or underachieved? Sum total of NBA Finals Shaquille O'Neal appeared in without an All NBA SG on his team: 0. Kobe Bryant is the hands down #2 SG to ever play basketball, some call Dwyane Wade #3 & at absolute worst he's still top 5. Dwight in '09, and during most of his Orlando tenure, played with average starters or nobodies. His record of success is unquestionable. Rashard Lewis was one of his era's most massive overpays & that's the best big signing Howard ever had next to him. Even with the Lakers Dwight came off BACK SURGERY and returned from a ton labrum injury early (often a year or more before bigs return to their normal level of play), to play LA into a post-season slot AND make the All NBA roster in the process. Does anyone remember how abysmal that Laker roster was outside Kobe+Dwight? Pau Gasol was hurt & played terribly under D'Antoni, averaging 13/8 on 46% FG as a big. D'Antoni was nearly run out of the league after this Lakers stint until the Houston run made him a media darling again. Nash was a hobbled shell. Outside of Kobe, Dwight & Pau here are the highest minute totals for that Lakers squad: a decrepit Metta World Peace, Jodie Meeks, 36 year old Antwan Jamison, 38 year old Steve Nash, Earl Clark, Chris Duhon & Steve Blake. Andrew Goudelock & Darius Morris started playoff games for that year's Laker team. LA begged Dwight to stay with campaigns & billboards, it was only in hindsight that Lakers fans & the media skewered Howard after he spurned then for Houston.
Howard underachieved because he was expected to carry the mantle of the best big man in the game as Wilt, Kareem, the Dream, and Shaq had before him. Your argument shows that he was great when he was at his best, but you totally missed the point you brought up to argue. All those guys were great for 15 years or so; Dwight was great for 6 at best. Perhaps it was unfair to have those expectations for him, but when everyone saw what he was doing at 21/22 that was what everyone expected of him (including himself when he posted a pic of himself alongside Wilt, Kareem, and Shaq upon his trade to the Lakers). You completely missed the point YOU brought up, so how dare you have the unmitigated gall to say Dwight Howard's underachievement is "the stupidest things in sports" without even defining what his expectations were. Clearly your education has failed you ;]
This is beyond amazing .. definitely a top 10 center
@@Rodddy nope...at least arguably but not definitely top 10, Kareem, Russel, Wilt, the Dream, Shaq, David Robinson, Moses Malone, and Patrick Ewing were all unquestionably better than Dwight, then Dikembe Mutumbo, Dave Cowens, Robert Parrish, Willis Reed, Alonzo Mourning, and probably even Marc Gasol or Wes Unseld can easily be argued to have been better than him
@@yank33sptg Bro check his resume he accomplished waaay more than Patrick Ewing or most of the other names you mentioned
@@Rodddy c'mon man do better Howard had one deep playoff and only made it out of the first round four times he put together five great seasons but hasn't been a top big man or even an offensive threat since he left Orlando all those other guys put up 8 to 10 great seasons and many even more longevity matters when determining the top ten for a specific position (you specifically called out Ewing so I "checked his resume) Ewing has better career numbers in ppg bpg apg spg ft% playoff appearances and wins)
Dwight got a ring before Giannis lol
Giannis been in the league for 8 years while Dwight is on his 17th year get back at me in 9 years and let’s compare then.
@@adriangreene908398 Shid he might win it this year
Who is here now after Dwight making a comeback with the lakers
Drazen Petrovic and Vlade Divac beef. (They were close as brothers, then became enemies)
Je Va they already have a whole 30/30 documentary on that one
Yea, that one is a true Hate Feud 🤔
Sad part, that beef would have been settled if Drazen was still alive.
“Shaq’s a bum” - Charles Barkley (lol)
Now this is one of those true beef. Like Shaq himself, the is some cheesesteak in this, but that is because Shaq too lazy to make it an all beef sandwich. I was here before Shaq's career started ( like before 'Blue Chips' ) and he made the Orlando Magic into something. I think that was a part of why this started, as Shaq moved along he wanted the Magic to never get back as high as he had taken them. When Dwight came along, Shaq was unhappy, but didn't care till Dwight took away Superman. Ever since the all star Superman dunk, Shaq has never stopped ripping on Dwight. If you ever spent a minute with Dwight you would know he is mostly respectful and falls apart when someone is intentionally hurtful, ask Kobè. Dwight Howard just wanted to be a friendly rival with Shaq, but got burned and demeaned because Shaq has always been protective of that "Superman" moniker. That is really it, just Dwight being silly and having fun, Shaq reacting much worse than any of his "mentors" did when he was young. I'm glad to see Dwight Howard getting a second chance in L A. He even looks like he is having "fun" while LeBron tries leading the Lakers.
TMac and Dwight would've been extremely fun
Cant beat yao + tmac
@@user-xt8pw4jn6e I think they could've.
The Chosen Moose no
@@user-xt8pw4jn6e Yao is too stiff and injury prone.
Do beef Embiid vs drummond
Nick Rampe they don’t got beef lmao
Way too early, more needs to happen
That just started
Nick Rampe I’m from Detroit but it ain’t a beef rn, Embiid just winning
Maurice Johnson I am from Michigan too, I agree that Embiid is winning but I still wanna see it
Dwight and T Mac could've been Shaq and Penny 2.0 smh
Whose watching this after Shaq acknowledged Dwight as “Superman” after his good play early season in his second stint with the Lakers
Good quarantine binging content
You guys gotta do Ray Allen and the Celtics
he been did that
Yes ASAP
12:34 did not expect to see Loaded Lux in one of these videos
u guys should make a part 2
Dwight is a lovable jokester who probably would have never participated in the beef without being basically pushed into it. Shaq is flamboyant, stubborn, and insecure, but was one hell of a player in his prime.
Shaq is Mr sensitive
Didn’t Shaq also give his “Superman nickname” to Blake Griffin when BG was with the Clippers?
Dwight is the most disrespected player in nba history. Future hall of famer
No and maybe
No he’s for sure a hall of famer
Maybe? When McGrady made it? Dwight’s definitely a HOF
@@jamesshaw4021 fall of Hamer!!
Chris bosh oss sneaking inn there for most disrespected, but Dwight is top 5 disrespected
The Magic missed Dwight's farting ability?? 🥴
Dwight Howard finally got his championship ring. I don’t know the guy and he has enough money where that ring shouldn’t matter what if there was one person who needed it to shut up the haters it was him. He’s incredible. I don’t even watch basketball anymore but I caught some of what he could do and it was incredible.
1:59 Lennox Lewis tmac and Shaq that's dope af.
You can sure say that Dwight “pounded” Shaq in the paint
oh god...
Old.
erok7007 😂😂
Ah a gay joke, very original
Lmfao chill 😂😂
Thank you 👌
Wow you guys do awesome research
You guys should do one about Senna and Prost
Shaq v Kobe beef history?
Cloudy spirit that would be a full hour episode 😂😂🤷🏿♂️
Jason Chukwu Lol I wouldn’t mind
That's ESPN 30 for 30 material
I’ve been watching these beef videos for the last 4 hours..
Who’s here after shaq made those salty comments about Dwight winning the chip
Me
"I'm shaq. I can't shoot free throws." Lol ded