Steve Jobs: The Fresh Air Interview (1996) | Fresh Air
1996 interview description: Steve Jobs is one of the founders of Apple Computers; and he led the development of the Macintosh computer. In 1985 he founded NeXT Computer. It's mission is to develop customized software for businesses; two of their applications are OPENSTEP and NEXTSTEP. Jobs is also the owner of the computer animation company, Pixar. They've made the first feature-length computer-animated film, "Toy Story," in conjunction with Walt Disney, Inc. Jobs will talk with Terry about the future of computer technology. Jobs has won numerous awards including a National Medal of Technology in 1990.
This episode was first broadcast on February 22, 1996.
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Dude just predicted Google, e-commerce, SmartTVs, and the end of physical media while I was still on the Oregon Trail trying not to die of dysentery.
Did you make it?
Dude was thinking Post-PC in 1996.
This is why I take them seriously when I listen to the newest generation of tech leaders talk about the future.
@@michaelhart2715 it sounds like you stay up to date on current tech leaders. Which three are the most similar to Jobs in your opinion?
@@DrFastFury I’d recommend listening to Mo Gawdat’s book, Scary Smart. Emad Mostaq has some compelling interviews as well. I recommend reading Max Tegmark’s Life 3.0 and maybe look into Peter Diamandis as well.
Patented 1996
@@michaelhart2715yo can you answer dude question below you please
Quality of the audio is so good.
1996? Sounds like something from 10 years ago. Can't believe it's that old.
17:08 - “One of the things I always tried to coach myself on was not being afraid to fail. When you have something that doesn’t work out a lot of times people’s reaction is to get very protective about ever wanting to fall on their face again and I think that’s a big mistake, because you never achieve what you want without falling on your face a few times in the process of getting there… So.. I’ve tried to not be afraid to fail and matter fact I failed quite a bit since leaving Apple” GOLD
Thanks a lot for the timestamp and transcript!
Interviewer is so great
My god this man was insightful. Definitely one of the most influential people of the last century.
Do you know who created the Internet? ...
@@mwa1788he said “one of”, and it’s definitely true
Without Wozniak he'd have been a nobody.
@@TheStevenWhiting without Steve, Woz wouldn’t have been anybody either
Today he'd be dosed on ritalin and ignored.
"We were two teenagers who couldn't afford a computer, so we decided to build one" - Legend 🙌
"other companies hire people to tell them what to do, we hire people so that they can tell us what to do" omfg this is such an amazing interview. i thought i'd heard/watched all his interviews, but this one tops them all. he's so relaxed because he knows you're not talking bs. there's so much coming out of his mind. i gotta roll a joint now. thank you to the interviewer, Terry Gross, you're amazing in getting him to really talk his mind. i'm gonna have to check out your other interviews, i still can't believe that this was '96, mental
this is just him in an interview, he's a documented tyrant over his employees
Terry Gross is a wonderful interviewer
Oh my God! This is so awesome!! The clarity of thought that Jobs has is astounding. He was so right about most of the things that happened way after he gave this interview. Terry Gross, I should add, is one of the best interviewers I’ve ever heard.
1996....when NPR was enjoyable to listen to.
10/10 interview. Hooray for NPR!. 1996....when NPR was enjoyable to listen to..
whoa. Steve is so ahead of the time
Everything he mentioned and envisioned came true. It’s spooky watching these old interviews. He was right about almost everything. It just took a few decades to get there.
this is crazy he was speaking about the web like this in '96. i had just left school and my last pc till then was an Amiga. omg, he's talking about the web like this when i was still going to libraries. it's crazy to think that all this was happening and i was too young (in my mind) to see what was happening
Dude this is on clutch!!! Thanks so much
I'm always humbled listening to, Steve Jobs. He is pure genius.
He was never a pure genius. WebObjects went nowhere. He had all the talk but certainly wasn't a genius.
This interview is a gem. Gives us a glimpse to the amazing inner thinking & thought processes of Steve Jobs. BTW, this interview was done in 1996 by the equally amazing interviewer Terry Gross, Steve Jobs return to Apple in the same year too - judging by the content of this interview. This interview was made before Steve returned to Apple. That explained why he refrained to critique too much about Apple. Hats off to Steve Jobs - a true giant.
Thank you for this interview!
Incredible. Such clarity about the future.
Steve Jobs is forever!
At 25:00 he talks about the concept of the iPad so ahead of its time and even before returning to Apple, essentially a simplified $300 low price internet access device. Back then screens weren’t ready so he suggested it should connect to the TV but actually he is basically aiming functionally at the iPad already. This matches other references by internal staff at Apple saying that his first goal before the iPhone was the iPad but he wished the phone out first as it suddenly became more urgent.
Always nice finding a new Steve Jobs recording 🙂
What an excellent time capsule. So much you can say about his insights at this time, and to think this was just months before Apple bought NeXT and Steve returned to the helm and saved Apple from near extinction. Edit: Right after I typed this Jobs says, in response to do you think Apple is going to fail, “I think with the appropriate leadership that’s not going to happen…but we’ll have to see.” Amazing.
This was great! Where's the rest of it? And Thanks😊
The pod before the pod. Love it!
I miss the 90's
Thanks so much for posting! Wishing everyone that reads this abundant and prosperous day. YOU ARE ABUNDANT
As someone who develops dynamic websites, This is incredibly interesting to listen to. Dynamic web is still the industry standard to this day, with people trying to make it more and more dynamic.
your the best!!! thx!!!
Impressive! Thanks for the video.
I really do appreciate.. Thanks a lot..
this is amazing, thank you for uploading this 🙏 btw, the interviewer is very good - she understands the big picture of what SJ is talking about so, because of that, gets him to explain more things so that we can all know. that's how an interview should be. this was an amazing interview, by both people, just a relaxed conversation with no one trying to big themselves up. genuine laughter is so nice to hear 💯❤ (talking about Terry, nice laugh)
Terry was great on fresh air. A great host to each guest
Sure is great to hear his voice and hear his thoughts. Outside of the Mac all his great ideas and work were still ahead of him at the time of this interview. I wish he would have had more time to give us his gifts ❤🙏🙏🙏
I learnt some things about the internet from this interview. And the interview was pre modern internet.
I like almost any content you create for us
Fantastic interview. The lady who interviewed also is an excellent one
10/10 interview. Hooray for NPR!
thanks for sharing the details of the hack. working perfectly fine with me
He was so excited about the web. I became nonchalant about the web starting at 2013. I wonder how excited he'd been about AI, chatgpt, midjourney, and others. My mother was very inquisitive about the internet when I was a teen, and it was very magical how curious she was, like at age 50 or whatever she was , and still looking at the internet with intense curiosity.
He would have made these so much awesome 😎 he makes me work hard, just an awesome guy I wonder how can I get his type of clarity and mindset
I was 1 years old at that time. I wish I could have lived through that time and be a builder there
thanks broooo biiig thx
Great interview. Very interesting to go back to 1996 and listen to these wise answers. Apple TV among other things obviously contemplated by Steve then.
Yeah the Apple TV callout was pretty cool!
God I love this dude
Early Object-Oriented Programming days... When only businesses had cable internet access, and residents had dialup.
I think the late 80s/Early to mid 90s was when he did his most interesting work. Not most successful monetarily, but when I would have most like to have worked/had conversations with him. This is as close as we can get!
Strange take. Clearly, iPhone was his magnum opus. How could you say otherwise?
Release all unreleased Steve Jobs interviews now!
Steve’s reaction on dynamic pages is the same as my reaction when I discovered php. The fact that everyone can get a personalized version of html bro 🤯
this man was ingenuity personified
15:25 lol that's where the one-button mouse comes from
21:23 this is wisdom
Legendary
Excelente muy bien explicado, me funciono al 100
Terry, the interviewer, was so good at asking questions. Several of what Steve talked about, including post-PCs and how Apple worked, were very interestingly being discussed again in the D8 conference back in 2010. I see this interview as a Part 1 for that, 14 years apart. kzhead.info/sun/nJmfaMapkIuto6s/bejne.html
#yourtimeislimited "Your time is limited; I love this phrase by Steve Jobs because it serves as a reminder that our lives are finite and time is a valuable resource that should be used wisely. It's often associated with encouraging people to prioritize their goals, aspirations, and meaningful experiences. Time cannot be regained once it's gone, making this concept a motivating factor for individuals to make the most of their lives and to focus on what truly matters to them."
Awesome
HTML being called "arcane" is wild. Was it different back then? These days its one of the easiest programming languages to wrap your head around I feel.
Jobs always thought from the perspective of the end user. It's in Apple's DNA. From that perspective, it's definitely arcane.
Arcane in the sense that relatively few people knew it. The language was released the same year CERN put WWW tech in public domain: 1993. For a sense of scale, 18 million homes had internet capability but only 3% (~540k) of those had used it in 1995 [1] and there were only 23,500 websites (only about one website per 23 surfers!) [2]. Sources: [1] Pew Research, World Wide Web Timeline, 2014. [2] Science + Media Museum, A Short History of the Internet.
3:53 and then went backwards again with big middle man like eBay and Amazon. Nothing good came from this. The middle man wasn't eliminated, it was enhanced.
Only if businesses submit to amazon...they dont have to sell on amazon
Lots of good obviously came from it, why be negative when you can be logical?
The audio sounds great. I guess digital doesn't decay.
Steven jobs!!
Jobs was such a thoughtful person. Sadly that can't be said of most tech companies CEOs of these days. They are just good engineers, which is nothing compare to Jobs geniuses
he was horrible
Listening to this interview made you think it was taken place last week 2023 but instead took place over 40 years ago.. WOW!
The interview was 27 years ago, friend.
Xerox parc was a hub for brilliant engineers
A visionary from the PARC to social media,
Thank you!Wise man are in our mind a❤lways🌏
Wow he really saw the future
So he predicted DTC companies in 1996, crazy insight.
I like BASIC programming, "arcane" as it is! TI 99 4A was my first system!
Genius
Omg!! He mentioned Amazon and google concept in one interview without mentioning their names..
Crazy to think there was a time where Pixar would have to be introduced as the “company that made Toy Story”
worked for me on my motorolla
I grew up with a physicist and she wouldn't eat more than one apple a day. They also found Alan Turing with apple. I ate bags of apples and with each byte they taste better and better.
Mainframe's the most important in the computertechnology; format machines, matrix mainframe's, computertechnologists are thinking about those how to make them better and more reliable and also with a lower energylevel. I am also thinking about that subject, matter and try to improve them. The glassfibre-cable can make a progress in that prospective.And what about wireless-fire. Kind regards to Steve, Laurene, their children and others of Apple. Saskia van Houtert (Saus)age; nickname, engineer/office-manager.
this is sick
I miss him.
Yo no one has listened to this...4k views, why did they wait so long to release?
It's a re-release.
@@user-jz2yd9qj3y yeah why wait so long to 're-release'
Custom-built websites…welcome 2023, where ChatGPT and AI will just do that.
Steve Jobs is the best!
0:48 He has a cute voice 🍎💻🖥️📱🍮🎀🐾🦴
Steve Jobs predicting the future for thirty minutes straight
astonishingly everything he said here is our current life.
🥲this beautiful interview ended way too early. could you please upload the full unedited recording?
Delicious. Something that works.
Like that lisp 😳
The mouse somehow the most important invention for the computer-industry. Without those you can't handle really good, at least that is my experience and consideration. Touchscreens somehow are fun but for designing and type-possibilities you really are related to a mouse. Kind regards, Saskia van Houtert, (Saus)age; nickname, engineer/office-manager.
I am reading and when she says now he is head of NeXT, how time moves too fast really.
Steve makes an interesting observation about 19 minutes in where he says that Apple needs to be 50 to a 100% different from the competition to make buying it worthwhile. I think this says alot to why the Mac never could catch up to the PCs and still today remains below 10% total market share of PCs. I think he is also correct in saying that when he left Apple they were at least 5 years ahead of Microsoft and went ahead to squander that lead by failing to innovate. It is debatable however to question whether or not Apple could have brought their prices down enough and innovated fast enough to actually maintain a lead especially when considering Job's famous hard core approach to keeping the Mac a sealed box. A massive driver for PC growth was endless expandability. Innovation aside, would Steve ever have gotten over the closed mindset?
I think the title should be "Which made toy story"
Prince of bel is missing out the title
My practical experience with Steve Jobs programm's is still cherished and still a exploring possibility for me in the future. Steve knows what I am talking about. Kind regards. Saskia van Houtert, engineer/office-manager. Date of description: 28-07-2023, time: 17:44.
He seems smart, he should build a smartphone or something idk
He is describing Amazon
steven jobs
genius
Did he just describe ChatGPT ?
That intro music almost made me hang myself
where is it ?
@19:27 - have anyone in mind, Steve? ;D
If you move on you know "you cant always stay in love with your first girl friend"
I can something about the I-Phone. It's the best mobile phone I had. Somehow a little expensive, but worthy. Somehow I like to have it constantly recharagble and with a longer battery-time. I keep on charging. And I have no firm-telephony at my home. To Steve Jobs on personal: kind regards with friendly compassion.