How they reloaded their boom sticks on the wild frontier.
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"Don't be rolling your eyes at me. I've got the delivery system for this puppy." I lost some good coffee at that line. Laughed too hard.
I never know what's gonna come out of his mouth. Love it.
Learned something watching this video: _black powder was sold in lead kegs during the fur trade era._ That actually makes really great sense for so many reasons; the lead could not only be melted to make the bullets, but it would be watertight, resistant to sparking by impact or static discharge and lead being soft likely wouldn't fragment readily. Oldtimers were brilliant.
Right? Amazing how they thought of doing all that.
People back then wanted to use everything and not waste any of it. Unlike today where you have to buy disposable plastic container to get a peeled orange. If only nature had made a container for that orange...
@@cult_of_odin It did, it's called a peeling or rind😃
And most still are .
Demolition ranch: “50 bmg armor piercing incendiary tracer. Now that’s a bullet.”
HAHA
Should have stayed period correct.. 50-110
Assuming what I've read is accurate, many Sharps rifles actually came with the handloading tool from the factory.
I read that, too.I just couldn't confirm it. Was looking for that ad that said, "Comes with a reloading tool.""
Good show. Those Lee Loaders will still get the job done.
Yep!
Yes they will!! I always have those as backups for traveling.
@@EPGunman yes sir
Hey Santee ! A couple of years ago a few friends and I were playing one of those nerdy role playing games , and the setting was a wagon train heading acrost the plains . A fight broke out between two players , and one player said his character was gonna pick up a burning log and clobber the other guy with it . The referee was gonna figure out how much damage a burning log would do to the target . I said " Wait a second , We're on the plains and there ain't no wood to burn , our campfire is burning buffalo chips " . So instead of a deadly battle , the two characters flung burning poop at each other like a couple of pyromaniac monkeys . We laughed ourselves silly , then had to stop the game for a snack break . Both players got a lot of ribbing about that afterwards . Yeah , I'm a nerd sometimes .
I think that's great! Very quick thinkin' on yer part.
Would love to know what that game was and way to funny man
@@douglasarnold5310 I don't remember the name of the game , but it was one of those paper and dice affairs of the horror genre . We encountered stuff like cursed Spanish missions , native burial vrounds , and such . Then there were the Blazing Saddes type moments .
Victor Waddell could it be Deadlands?
@@Anderson_101 i'll have to ask my friend who was GMing.
I have a Winchester .44 reloading tool and have reloaded some rounds. WORKS. KEEP 'EM COMING
Nice, Dan!
.950 JDJ. Now THAT is a bullet.
Yeah it is!
That reloading animation... uh... W O W... I’m almost speechless (and that’s, as you know, as close as I’ll ever get to being speechless)... I’m going to go watch it again because... well, W O W.
Thanks, Jedi!
We have some of those reloading tools that has been passed down from my great great grandfather that he used around the late 1800’s.
Wow, those are treasure!
Arizona Ghostriders they have been around a while Santee. Likely I will pass them down to my son. BTW I enjoy your channel. Entertaining and informative 👍
@@haulinashoutdoors2675 Thank you.
I used the Lee loader for a few calibers when I was a kid. Sure was easy to destroy a casing when hammering it in to resize it.
Yes. I found that out the hard way, too!
“I’ve got the delivery system for this puppy”? why am i not surprised that Dan would have a BFG for fun 🤣
😂😂
Outstanding history lesson! Thank you! 👍🏾😀❤️🇺🇸
Thanks, Jeffry!
When I was doing F&I and War of 1812 re-enacting I used to roll my own cartridges and make my own lead balls. Thanks for sharing! Love this channel.
That's cool, Lloyd!
Im thinking cartridges were pretty difficult to obtain in old west towns.....a lot of the stores i go to today are sold out on the ammo i need .......and back then the resupply was by a wagon pulled by mules....not UPS and jet planes.
That's correct. It may also be that you would have to go to a larger town near a railhead to get ammo.
Great channel Santee!........creating a library of information that has been lost to time is an awesome thing.
Doing my best, Tom. Thanks for noticing.
Tell me about it. Try getting a 6.5 grendel or 45-70 Gov at Walmart
@@cult_of_odin wqhy buy ammo at a store when you can get super cheap ammo shipped to your door..
Awesome video Santee another great history lesson on the old west 👍🤠 I found some old bullets in my great Grandfather's work shop and some old tools I didn't know what they where now I do 😎 Thanks Santee 🤠🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
They probably still work great, too!
You had my wife laughing like crazy. Great as usual! A lot of info packed into 3 min. 36 sec. Great start to our Sat. morning see you next Sat.
Thanks Peppered!
+Arizona Ghostriders Thanks for the education on the Old West.
You are most welcome.
Great movie clips, Santee! Haven't seen War Wagon with John Wayne and Kirk Douglas in years.
Fun movie.
I have a 2nd model Winchester reloading tool for .44 wcf, i missed out on a mold a few months back. but I gotta say, these old tools are neat, no dies, everything's built into it....now to get a .44wcf rifle.
Nice collection...yeah, gotta get the rifle now!
Great Video. Like then, you can never have enough gear.
True!
1:33 Wow ok then for a good 15 years now I thought Steve Mcqueen was saying "We deal and live", that scene now makes a lot more sense.
Awesomeness! Sheer Awesomeness! Thanks for This!
You're welcome.
Reloading was done in the saloons...oh I thought you were talking about the boys getting reloaded. Great description on reloading ammo for firearms. Best wishes to all of the Arizona Ghoustriders, and God Bless America.
Thank you! Ha!
I really like it!!
Let's see.....Rex or Dirty Dan? Ole double D stole the show this time. Y'all Rock!! Thanks.
Thank you!
Educational and hilarious, thanks guys
You're welcome
Very educational and helped me understand reloading methods and tools. I really liked the singing seal. Thanks, Santee.
You're welcome. Singing seals, especially tenors, are the key to any good KZhead success.
2:26 Oh my god, love that seal!😂
🤠
AH! Wow - pretty much what we do today. Albeit, we are a little more advanced at it. Very Cool Santee. Thanks to you and of course Dirty Dan. Greatly appreciate it. I learned a lot.
You're welcome, Bob!
Moving to the Great free state of Arizona in January from the Iron curtain state of Illinois, bringing my Guns with me and enjoying the freedom! Love your videos !
Glad to hear it and you'll be welcome in our state!
Made me remember that I need to order a part for my Lee set-up...
Good. I can't remember what I had for breakfast....
Greetings from Ireland. Great video. I really like those lead powder containers, very practical.
Loved it as always!
Thank you so much, Eric!
But like you mentioned, the cap and ball Revolvers were the cheapest way, and some made paper cartridges, or they reloaded extra cylinders.
Yes, however, the extra cylinder thing does not have a lot of mention in the history of it all. Probably not easy to find extra cylinders unless you ordered special from back east.
Awesome episode. Thanks Santee
Appreciate it Douglas!
Looking at the old revolvers and such, seeing all the weird calibers they were chambered always lead to a single question in my head: How did people work around the lack of ammo standardization? I guess the answer of "Lol, they simply held onto their spent cartridges and reloaded them afterwards" kinda works for me.
Some, but others would travel to bigger towns where they could find their ammo.
@@ArizonaGhostriders Noted. Thank you. One more question. There's a talk of the round being hammered into the slightly opened up lip of the casing, with the latter being hammered back to seal the contents within Cant this altered ...let's call it anatomy of the shell not conflict with the space within the weapon (be it cylinder or not), i.e not fit in, cause some other issues, etc
@@sebs-shenanigans Not exactly certain of the question, but a case is widened at the mouth to accept the bullet, then crimped around that bullet so it will seal and not get caught up in the chamber of the gun.
It’s been so much fun checking out your channel!!! So educational and entertaining!!
Why thank you! We try to put a smile on your thinking cap.
50 BMG huh, Dan? Back to the future with Dirty Dan and his delivery system...
LOL!
I have an Ideal 1890's loading tool like in the video for .38-40 and it worked very well. Shot the ammo from my first year of production 1892 Winchester. It was a fun project but modern reloading is better!
I am impressed you used that. Yep, modern reloading is a breeze in comparison!
Awwww, poor Santee❤️
It happens.
I didn't know you could fit a whole reloading kit into such a small package like that. And here I thought you couldn't do without at least a half-a-room setup.
Remember...it was not multi-stage. One at a time. Something to do while you're waiting for your buffalo stew to boil.
Great video guys
Thanks!
Don't quite know what I like best, the information or the way you jokers present it.
Awww, like 'em both.
Dirty Dan, born and raised in Ozark Co Missouri here. Currently living in Springfield. Just saying hello.
I'll pass it along.
Dirty Dan is a .50 cal guy????? I would like to take this opportunity to apologize for any Dirty Dan cracks I have made in the past (pretty sure that BMG can reach up here to Cali with the right scope :-) ha ha ha.... great vid guys, thanks so much !!!
He also has an A10 round. Scary!
@@ArizonaGhostriders Now THAT'S a bullet!
0:28 that has to be one polished cylinder, holy cow
Hollywood-polished!
Nice ! 👌
Appreciated!
There was never a 45 short Colt, so there was no 45 long Colt. It's just 45 Colt. Now that I have my nit picking out of the way, Just found your channel and I'm really enjoying it.
Point made. Welcome to the channel.
Actually there was a shorter .45 caliber cartridge used in the Smith&Wesson Scofield revolver also adopted in smaller numbers by the U.S. Army along with the 1873 Colt. The Scofield had a shorter cylinder and could not chamber the longer Colt cartridge. Frontier officers had to specify which cartridge they needed when ordering ammunition. In requisition forms the were forced to specify the LONG Colt cartridge. The army later solved their logistics problem by only producing the shorter cartridge at Frankford Arsenal which worked in either revolver.
Ya forgot to mention a major step in the reloading process unique to reloading back then. The bullets had to be coated with a lube of tallow and beeswax, after the lube was cooled, it was then pressed through the sizing part of the die. Modern bullets dont need lube due to the brass jacket that keeps the lead from contacting, and then melting from friction and the combustion of powder, the lands and grooves of the gun. The lube is needed to both waterproof the cartridge at the case neck under the crimp and keep the bore from leading up after just one or two shots. As for the 50 bmg delivery system, thats gotta be one of the funniest lines I have ever heard. P.S. They also would wash the cases in hot soapy water or boil them after the depriming and sizing step to get the black powder residue out of the case. If it was left in the case, the residue absorbs water and would then foul out the powder once it is reloaded. Seeing as how only about 30% of the powder is burned in the combustion process leaving the rest as fouling and smoke, the left over residue would also take up a lot of space that was desperately needed due to how inefficient black powder is, but it's still a heck of a lot of fun and recommend it if you ever get the chance.
Thank for the additional info!
These vids are so fun!
Glad you like them!
As always, another great video, Santee! But rather than reloaded, I just enjoy getting loaded to begin with!
I shared this video with my son :) Cool stuff!
Absolutley love your channel ! Cheers from benson az !
Thank you so much! Hey, you're right down the street!
I did some .40 cal reloading and it was cool watching this episode
Check out my video I did on the reloading tool. Mine is for 40-82.
Can you please make a video about how they made the primers and casings back in the old west
I use a Lyman 310 for some of my loading of the .45 Colt cartridge. It's slow. But it produces a usable round.
But you own a reloading tool that's been around for over a century, so that is amazing right there.
Awesome santee! The Native people would trade for the fingers of lead (or pigs) shave off pieces then chew them into a ball shape which they’d use with trade guns/flintlocks and/or cap and ball. often cutting down the barrel and stock of a long arm, removing the ramrod entirely and getting within 30yards before shooting. Don’t be doing that today as leads..eugh..but never knew that and it’s a cool tidbit. Slightly before the good old Winchester though now that’s a rifle I’d like to shoot! And a rolling block rifle too. Thanks for all your work, stay safe out there
You're welcome. Much appreciated.
A good informative and entertaining video. You have a Good channel. Now time for a cold bottle of Beer !
Yes! Thanks for watching.
The black powder in the lead cans originally came from Lewis and Clark expedition.
Yes. That's where the picture of it is from. A museum exhiibit about Lewis and Clark.
Good video, wasn't sure if they reloaded then or not. Thanks!
Great timing! I just loaded 70 45 Colt yesterday and shot them all...setting up to do some more. Hope the neighbors don;t mind the smoke from the Buffalo Chips!
LOL!
Hi our awesome friend thanks for coming to our live stream I have been cooking along time and I have been taught many different recipes by some awesome chefs and my friend is married to a Thai lady and she shown me some awesome recipes awesome video and a awesome likeee never seen a singing sea lion lol 😂
Yes, I also reload for me .38 spl S&W caliber, and my dies are Lee brand. Best Regards.
Mine too!
@@ArizonaGhostriders With the simplicity that Lee's products have, it recharges faster and simpler, and they are not so expensive that allows you to continue with the sport.
For reloading, I use 5 in 1 and 38..ive found that half load is plenty if you use floral foam wad for your blanks..the difference between full and half load blanks isnt much if you pack it good and saves lots of powder.
Great tip!
Your videos are so well made. I cannot believe you dont have more views!
Thank you!
Very funny and full of information
Thank you!
I just got into re-loading about 6 months ago
Makes a difference, eh?
Loved
Thank you!
Very interesting and this is the first video to watch and you got a new sub.
Thanks, Alex. Just some back story: T-rex was acquired in a fouled up seance and the ghost followed me home one episode.
Arizona Ghostriders I'll bear that in mind.
Excellent video and SPECTACULAR information. I was just wondering about this while viewing the other video about Prisons in the Old West. Thanks Santee, you're the greatest. 😎👌
I inherited my great grandfather’s Winchester 1873 in .38-40, with his bullet mold. Both are in working order.
So cool!! Don't ever let it go.
Hi Santee I’m about to go trout fishing at a pond near my house
Catch me something, Andrew!
@@ArizonaGhostriders You know what? An episode on fishing in the old west might be interesting.
Alright since no one said it, I know this was 6 months ago but Dirty Dan looks good with that new beard
LOL I got the delivery system for this puppy....PRICELESS.
My Gun is loaded....Ready to go now!
.38 special, all the power I need to drop a bandit. even though it came out by the end of the old west.
.36 was a popular round
Hi Santee. I wouldnt throw live cartridges... surprisingly they can go off sometimes if they hit something hard, like a rock.
Oh don't worry, Martin, that was a "de-primed" dummy. We keep them in our cartridge belts at events.
That’s the way I reloaded in my dorm room at Univ. of Wyoming.... times were less complicated then. 😉
I bet.
Ah, is that .50 Cal from the infamous '68 Colt Army model? That was a good gun. Could only fit one round at a time though. As a sort of add-on to the ammo thing: Would getting hit by a revolver bullet cause you to fly back, ala Hollywood? I doubt pistol rounds were powerful enough to throw bad guys off their feet.
Naw, That's a Hollywood thing. Then again, I haven't ever seen a person get shot in the chest for real, so...
That .50 cal is a BMG - Browning Machine Gun. So, no. Newton's Third Law says (in a nutshell) for every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction. So if the bullet would throw the receiver backwards, it would throw the shooter backwards, too. Like AGR says, it's a Hollywood thing. I've also noticed in some movies, there's no recoil at all when a gun is shot. Strange.
LIKED. for the singing elephant seal.
They call him "Pavoratti"
Don’t forget the resizing step Santee. 😜.
The bullet setter does it.
#50Th Huge Thumbs Up For Uploading & Sharing This Outstanding Vdo 👍 Wish U A Gr8 Weekend With Lovely Moments 😊
LoL. Very funny 😂. Big like from us
Thanks Darren!
Lee loaders hold or held the long range record for years. I cast my bullets for BP cartridges out of 20:1or 30:1 lead tin mix depending or power 45 Colt gets less than my Buff gun
Very cool info.
good video.i would say more but i have not had my coffee yet.
Ha! That's ok, Tule.
Do you guys have a video on what pre-made or store bought ammo costed back during the wild west days?
Not yet.
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Thanks!
Pigs & seals. Ahaha. You guys are great. Thanks so much.
You are welcome!
Wait. Did they even know about the lead being toxic? From what I always heard is the further you move in the past the more careless they were in handling the lead. Heck, I even remember hearing when news of it being toxic came out not everyone started changing behavior. XD haha. It was a gradual progression towards avoiding lead poisoning more.
They did know lead was toxic.
Could guys do a video on old West binoculars
Great idea! It's on the list. Thanks.
Howdy men, that was fun once again. I wanted to tell you that after we watched your video on what money was worth ,the old show Wanted Dead or Alive with Steve McQueen came on and there was a poker game . They were betting a hundred and five hundred dollars a throw. I didn't realize saddle tramps were wealthy. And ,I liked the seal.
Wow! I haven't seen that one. Interesting. Thank you!
I've been watching that show too! Lots of stuff that's unrealistic, but a fun show.
I have my great great grandfather’s 1860’s Winchester.36 cal. bullet mold. I had his Winchester .36 cal. lever rifle until three banditos decided they wanted it more. Police never did find that rifle. They caught the thugs though.
Hope it turns up one day
@@ArizonaGhostriders it's in a policeman's safe....
@@maxmccullough8548 yeah
Don't roll your eyes at me, I got the delivery system for this puppy... Lol.
Teee heeee!
I think Santee is well informed about old western culture.
Thank you!
Now, if Dirty Dan only had the M2 Browning for that!
HA! He may have....I don't ask about those things.
We do what we can
Yes
By about 1875, metallic cartridges had almost completely replaced paper ones. But these were expensive, considering that they needed to be manufactured and transported. Thus, reloading. Thanks for your videos.
Not. Percussion weapons remained in widespread use until the 1920s.
ok..so this leads to the next question. How did they make the primers back in the good old days?
I believe they used an incandescent charge in the primer casing. Not sure if it was Mercury Fulminate or something else.The metallic cartridge's primer pocket adds enough resistance so the primer will ignite when struck with the firing pin.
I'm talking to an old buddy about buying a Quigley sharps in 45 110/45 120 and at about $7 a shot from one manufacturer I'm probably going to go buy a loading rig for it he's sending the Looting days and a ton of brass cassings to I cast all my own bullets for my black powder muzzleloaders this will be my first cartridge rig
Yeah, with .45-70 you wanna reload your own if you can.
@@ArizonaGhostriders I used to think the 4570 was a beast of a cartridge until I had a 45-110 in my hand
Arizona Ghostriders The seal system is good but the seal didn't have a western hat.
HAHA!