Why Dr. DOOM Has Been the MCU's Secret BIG BAD, All Along - Kang, T'Challa's Death, Hydra, and More!

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Doctor Doom is poised to be the next big bad of the multiverse saga...but what if he has already been in the MCU, this entire time? In this video we go through the timeline of the Marvel Cinematic Universe, and outline exactly how Doom influenced pivotal events in the MCU. SHIELD, the Avengers, Civil War, Age of Ultron, Hydra, T'Challa's Death,baron Zemo, and kang!
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  • Use code ScreenCrush at the link below to get an exclusive 60% off an annual Incogni plan: incogni.com/ScreenCrush

    @ScreenCrush@ScreenCrush3 ай бұрын
    • He has a great backstory. But marvel will eff it up by casting an aborigine to play him. Perhaps even a female one.

      @danfrancis2707@danfrancis27073 ай бұрын
    • please this channel gives too many passes on terrible written movies and shows, dont use their scammy sponsor code and let these channels know that these shows just suck and recaps of them dont make it any better

      @mohammadislam2324@mohammadislam23243 ай бұрын
    • Did he mean the machines that Ultron built? 13:00 He said "machines Doom built"

      @uselessagent7342@uselessagent73423 ай бұрын
    • Great Thesis!! Very Intriguing to a person who does t know alot about Dr Doom. i really wish Disney would take the time to fill in all these plot holes and stories that didnt seem to make sense during the Infinity saga. I would be awesome StoryTelling tying together alot of these Stories that seemed to go unanswered since the “blipp” and filling it with Dr Doom Under storya d his rise would be a FANTASTIC idea instead of spending several yrs trying to explain it in saga 5,6&7. Use That time to explain how these universes are collapsing and the rising threat as we lead up to secret wars

      @Denza.@Denza.3 ай бұрын
    • Kang was a overpowered villain

      @bentonmarcum8924@bentonmarcum89243 ай бұрын
  • They need these youtube theorists in a writers room. 99% of these theories are so much better than what actually comes to fruition.

    @sgtbeercanyt@sgtbeercanyt3 ай бұрын
    • It's almost like Kevin Feige isn't the Golden God they make him out to be.

      @bobbyrooney@bobbyrooney3 ай бұрын
    • But how can they promote identity politics?

      @TheKamotechunks@TheKamotechunks3 ай бұрын
    • You're definitely giving screen crush way too much credit

      @neonclouds9295@neonclouds92953 ай бұрын
    • ​@@neonclouds9295 To be fair, they said "these KZhead theorists", not SC specifically. I took that to mean a consulting team made up of theorists like SC and others. I like that Feige is the constant for the entire franchise because with something this big, you really need that. But it's SO big that they could use a "continuity team". Who better than dedicated nerds who like to pick apart the lore?

      @maironamakesstuff@maironamakesstuff3 ай бұрын
    • @@maironamakesstuff agreed

      @neonclouds9295@neonclouds92953 ай бұрын
  • This literally could be an entire origin movie for Dr. Doom. Make this his own movie and it would be awesome to have them weave the events of past MCU movies into this. See it all connected! This is how we could see our favorite characters/actors again!

    @adametsa@adametsa3 ай бұрын
    • That's the point of this video. You just said, "Do the thing the guy in the video already said!"

      @delpullen1982@delpullen19823 ай бұрын
    • would be a great origin movie --> unless they go M-SHE-U Cartman mode TO make him a chic, and make Doom a gay, HaHaHa!

      @user-fe1cx1ky4m@user-fe1cx1ky4m3 ай бұрын
    • it would be a trash movie , this is why you're not a director and they are

      @HappyBob701@HappyBob7013 ай бұрын
    • I've been saying this, although with Apocalypse, that we should get a villain story arc, but you know nothing about who it is. Then boom. Find out it's a marvel movie

      @ehrikrick2227@ehrikrick22273 ай бұрын
    • It would be awesome if the F4's intro to the MCU is as background secondary antagonists to Doom in his movie.

      @ezrapolonsky5771@ezrapolonsky57713 ай бұрын
  • Also Victor could be Sonny Burch's anonymous buyer of Pym technology in Ant-Man and the Wasp.

    @AngryAuditor@AngryAuditor3 ай бұрын
    • Doom. Dooom Dooooooom

      @beaniiman@beaniiman2 ай бұрын
    • Yea I second that cos they never gave us who was behind it all

      @decypherdjabson1815@decypherdjabson18152 ай бұрын
    • ​@@decypherdjabson1815 I think it was Mysterio

      @theenderkeeper1534@theenderkeeper1534Ай бұрын
    • Was probably mysterio, one of the crime syndicates or the power broker tbh

      @trippinbawls88@trippinbawls885 күн бұрын
  • I freaking love these breakdowns. It’s like listening to a “what if” episode as a radio play. Your enthusiasm is palpable

    @Earlofdadjokes@Earlofdadjokes3 ай бұрын
    • I agree it is definitely palatable

      @pepito69@pepito693 ай бұрын
    • Yes !!

      @kamichan127@kamichan1272 ай бұрын
    • Their secret invasion one was too good!

      @kieferhurt4918@kieferhurt4918Ай бұрын
  • Maybe they should take a page from Sony's book and give Dr Doom his own MCU movie covering his life up until he takes on the Dr Doom alter ego. It would work better since his story would actually be connected to the MCU

    @Cosm1c_Donut@Cosm1c_Donut3 ай бұрын
    • VON DOOM Its the perfect title

      @HissoriRenda@HissoriRenda3 ай бұрын
    • @@HissoriRendaor just simply DOOM. Format wise it would be similar to the Hannibal Lecter movie (except written way better) and would be akin to a King Arthur story but evil. They can use more grandiose music throughout the movie and then can blast some MF DOOM at the end credits

      @kingbooomer9231@kingbooomer92313 ай бұрын
    • @@kingbooomer9231 I was trying to make reference to the idea it would be an origin so the Von falls away as he becomes the Doctor Love the MF DOOM idea

      @HissoriRenda@HissoriRenda3 ай бұрын
    • I don’t think the MCU should try to do anything close to what Sony has done. Sony can’t make movies.

      @TheLaymanPang@TheLaymanPang3 ай бұрын
    • @TheLaymanPang oh I agree, but I'm saying it would work better this way cause everyone wants Doom to have his time to shine and be fleshed out thoroughly. It would also have some sort of pay off cause we'd see him go up against the heroes in the MCU. Sony's movies don't work cause they make shitty movies that aren't very connected to each other and are missing the most important character of that universe 😆

      @Cosm1c_Donut@Cosm1c_Donut3 ай бұрын
  • Not sure if you’ll see this Ryan but you and your team are incredible. Great theories, amazing breakdowns, so much in depth knowledge. Makes every day a little better. 🙌

    @ipmanoo9250@ipmanoo92503 ай бұрын
    • I am thank You, it means alot to me

      @blacyc@blacyc3 ай бұрын
    • Hard agree. This channel, and a few others, have published theories and potential story arcs for the MCU that would have been incredible trajectories for the multiverse saga. I rip my hair out over here When I read things like that from Bob iger who said "not enough executives on set" is the reason all of this MCU output has fallen flat 🤦 (Hint, Bob: STORY).

      @kirkgeorgia6058@kirkgeorgia60583 ай бұрын
  • Finally. A (random) KZhead content creator who makes sense & is well-researched. Not just venting & cursing for 22 minutes.

    @collegiateathletesoftomorr7979@collegiateathletesoftomorr79792 ай бұрын
  • A lot of people are saying this should be a movie, but there's so much character building that this has to be a show

    @MJH72996@MJH729963 ай бұрын
    • Why not both? A show to set the character building etc and a payoff movie after the fact. Maybe a reveal like the one of Thanos on his chair or something.

      @P.M_M@P.M_M3 ай бұрын
    • Nope it needs to be a series of movies with diff heroes finding there own path then come together like the avengers, THAT is why we fell in love with the MCU, and they could finally have a female hero(except Natasha and bw) to have their own character arc of development instead of a marry sue that can do anything better then anyone else 👌

      @jeffreyvandenabeel9400@jeffreyvandenabeel94002 ай бұрын
    • @@jeffreyvandenabeel9400 which female hero tho ?

      @P.M_M@P.M_M2 ай бұрын
    • It would be nice if there was a show coming about Doom's origins. Maybe in the form of diares with witches and Darkhold and Aubrey Plaza as Mefisto preferably...

      @Morcorco@Morcorco2 ай бұрын
    • @@P.M_M dnno, kitty pryde, Monica Rambeau maybe ironheart I would like Monica Rambeau, story has allot of potential and could be altered if needed to fit a good narrative

      @jeffreyvandenabeel9400@jeffreyvandenabeel94002 ай бұрын
  • Dr. Doom almost needs his own movie to fully tell his backstory and motivations. Of all the projects coming up and don’t see him appearing too often to gain audience support of who he is.

    @TheQuincyEdwards@TheQuincyEdwards3 ай бұрын
    • It could be a kick ass series if done right

      @mcbain3188@mcbain31883 ай бұрын
    • Doom needs his own trilogy. It should be how the MCU ends.

      @GregFries@GregFries3 ай бұрын
  • I wish I had as much faith in the MCU’s storytelling as Ryan does haha. Great vid!

    @troyb6977@troyb69773 ай бұрын
  • WOW! Chills! These were some great ideas - well constructed and laid out. Fingeres crossed that some assistant to Kevin has your channel on notification!

    @MrTjaeden@MrTjaeden3 ай бұрын
  • Doctor Doom pulls off his mask to reveal Sam Reich Waits a beat “I’ve been here the whole time!”

    @PapaBPoppin@PapaBPoppin3 ай бұрын
  • I love it. So damn excited for Doom and I really hope that Marvel pulls a whole “Doom stops Kang in his tracks and becomes the main threat” shift

    @RushStriker9@RushStriker93 ай бұрын
  • I'm surprised you didn't add the footnote about the Doctor from the beginning of Wakanda Forever being someone from Doom's nation, and probably being his chief scientist who was out in the ocean looking for their own source of vibranium. It seems like the only concrete connection there is, explicitly, so to speak.

    @aaronblanchard209@aaronblanchard2093 ай бұрын
  • I LOVE THIS! We need more fan-fiction/what-if videos from you guys! This is so creative and my mind is blown!

    @Paintimenti@Paintimenti3 ай бұрын
    • What if Bruce Banner was the Weapon X experiment and we got Hulkavine

      @johngallagher72@johngallagher723 ай бұрын
  • Do you think Doom should be the big bad of the MCU?

    @ScreenCrush@ScreenCrush3 ай бұрын
    • I thought your theory was great and it could definitely work if the MCU doesn’t rush it. Edit: If they were going to make this work I feel like doctor doom would need his own solo movie

      @JonahBEYBLADE@JonahBEYBLADE3 ай бұрын
    • No just cold swapping villains because one failed is terrible and retconning events to say “ it was doom all along” is also dumb n desperate

      @javongarnett41@javongarnett413 ай бұрын
    • True but you do have to admit he put in a lot of effort making the theory and fitting doom in the MCU

      @JonahBEYBLADE@JonahBEYBLADE3 ай бұрын
    • @@JonahBEYBLADE definitely but I think theories like this and other KZhead’s like den of nerds put out creates unrealistic expectations for these studios then when these outlandish theories don’t come true it’s “ marvel fucking sucks “

      @javongarnett41@javongarnett413 ай бұрын
    • Yes

      @alexgarciala@alexgarciala3 ай бұрын
  • This. Theory. ROCKS. Especially love the idea that the Ultron bots became Doombots.

    @TheKnightArgent@TheKnightArgent3 ай бұрын
    • It can work but at some point marvel needs to let things be separate concepts. Doombots are doombots and Ultron was Ultron. Hank Pym was a genius scientist too, Doom wouldn't borrow others genius that would admit defeat and his ego wouldn't allow that. He could build doombots better than Ultron bots. Like Dr strange eye of agomotto being separate from the time stone. I didn't like they merged them making the eye useless in new fans eyes. Just my thoughts but I do agree that it would fit in the MCU and work. But would Dr doom really do that? We won't get Ultron fighting doombots if they are the same thing. It takes away from the marvel we know n love.

      @mitchmarvelous6412@mitchmarvelous64123 ай бұрын
    • I totally get what you're saying. Doom is, indeed, egotistical to an insane degree. However, he is also pragmatic. He might repurpose the Ultron drones to take Latveria, then promptly melt them down and make his own. LOL

      @TheKnightArgent@TheKnightArgent3 ай бұрын
    • @@TheKnightArgent I get it and never meant to dismiss the thought. It's just getting old to me as a life long marvel fan that we can't have characters be themselves. We have to repurpose them into MCU which is one universe amongst the multiverse ya know. Ultron bots are cool but so we're the doombots infact doombots werent one version he made many different sizes, form and function differs based on the job. Plus doom made clones of him that think they're doom another type of machine. It actually takes away from what victor von doom is and has been to make him tied to Ultron or reliant on who built Ultron. It would be better but f Ultron came to Doom and had help with upgrades to defeat avengers. But again why would doom help when he wants to take over. I'm thinking beyond the current MCU and pointing out all the great ideas from comics we aren't seeing yet. That's where my head was at respectfully whatever they do ill watch and be optimistic n hopeful .

      @mitchmarvelous6412@mitchmarvelous64123 ай бұрын
    • This sounds like the "Reverse Flash was behind everything in the DCEU reveal" that came out last year. dafuq

      @mudbutt234@mudbutt2343 ай бұрын
    • I'm at the point where I don't get excited for the mashups of characters or mixing three comic stories into one movie since the MCU might be destroyed then reset anyway. I guess it takes pressure off the changes made since it can be reset but also why care when it gets erased? I've been looking forward to the day we marvel fans can see these stories come to life and we finally do marvel short changes us . Doom and secret wars looks to be setting up a reset of the MCU.

      @mitchmarvelous6412@mitchmarvelous6412Ай бұрын
  • So grateful for the work poured into this !!! Thank you screen rant team for this inspired theory , i was giddy ! Lol

    @kamichan127@kamichan1272 ай бұрын
  • This was an awesome speculative journey of the MCU... I can dig this direction of him being behind the scenes!

    @phatkiddre@phatkiddre3 ай бұрын
  • It makes more sense to have him as the big bad of next saga in a marvel ultimate alliance type of story then bring in galactus for a quick cameo at the end of the saga in a post credit scene and set up the following saga

    @Last-Scar-5675@Last-Scar-56753 ай бұрын
  • I heard “salvage all those parts from Age of Ultron” and thought “Doombots!”

    @charlesflohr1815@charlesflohr18153 ай бұрын
  • Totally love the theory and how it weaves together really well. I so hope they do something like this in the MCU.

    @frankbonnerscotland@frankbonnerscotland3 ай бұрын
  • There are SO many good Doom stories. The early Mark Waid FF run really reinvigorated the character.

    @Peavey311@Peavey3113 ай бұрын
  • @ScreenCrush I think this is one of Ryan's best videos... GREAT WORK!

    @Conor2400@Conor24003 ай бұрын
  • I don’t usually comment but… 9:29 you hit pitch perfect plot points for these characters.

    @thaahurricane@thaahurricane3 ай бұрын
  • This entire plot. Your writing. If they do this correctly could save the MCU.... this was incredible and subtle and makes sense with no major plot holes. Well done.

    @Guitargod021@Guitargod0213 ай бұрын
  • This works! Ties everything in and explains some background events that had no screen time.

    @glenvartha5253@glenvartha52533 ай бұрын
  • I usually don't like theories too much, but I absolutely Love this one!! Only thing is, when they do introduce Dr. Doom it 100% has to be in his own movie or show! Thanx for what you do, Mr Arey! ...and Doug!

    @alingram5663@alingram56633 ай бұрын
  • It is important to remember the before the modern origin story of Kang, in the earlier appearances it was implied that Kang was just an older version of Dr Doom, or maybe was either his father or descendant. It wasn't not until after the introduction of Nathanal Richards, Reed's father, that it was revealed that Kang was a Richards and not a Von Doom.

    @brettmajeske3525@brettmajeske35253 ай бұрын
  • Wow. Good job. Appreciate the work that was put into this.

    @MrGeoC@MrGeoC3 ай бұрын
  • Jesus this was scripted out perfectly, I was glued to my chair the entire way thru, bravo to your writers and presentation. 🤝👏🙌

    @h1ko393@h1ko3933 ай бұрын
  • That was fantastic. Well thought out and structured imo. Far better than the drivel some of these shows and movies try to spew out lately. One of the reasons I like the MCU is that things are and can be interconnected and complimentary. You dont have to tell a whole big universal story in one movie because its already known.

    @thecardiacpack2496@thecardiacpack24963 ай бұрын
  • This would work really well as a limited series. I could not imagine all of this in a movie

    @Noahstubz@Noahstubz3 ай бұрын
    • Why can't you imagine that pretty hopeless

      @zaneoneill2045@zaneoneill20453 ай бұрын
    • @@zaneoneill2045 🤦‍♂️

      @Noahstubz@Noahstubz3 ай бұрын
    • It can be a movie but it all depends on who’s writing the story and how it should be portrayed

      @decypherdjabson1815@decypherdjabson18152 ай бұрын
    • @@decypherdjabson1815doctor doom doesn’t need a movie at all, he just needs hints or post credit scenes at the end of other mcu movies building him up

      @random_stuffgaming3277@random_stuffgaming32772 ай бұрын
  • 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾 this is by far the best theory that can work. I’m definitely going to plaster this on Twitter

    @christopherscott5735@christopherscott57353 ай бұрын
  • Great video and theory! Would love to see this play out on the big screen.

    @ramonponce870@ramonponce8703 ай бұрын
  • I'd down to see this ngl. If they do introduce Dr. Doom soon, I think they'll keep him alive after Secret Wars.

    @Marvelousgamer7697@Marvelousgamer76973 ай бұрын
    • Right. Doom is not just the Big Bad of one Phase or even one Saga. He's multiple Sagas. Doom is the poster villain of Marvel. What Superman is to superheroes, Doom is to supervillains. As Ryan says above: Doom is the GREATEST supervillain.

      @BibleAlivePresentations@BibleAlivePresentations3 ай бұрын
    • @@BibleAlivePresentations agreed

      @Marvelousgamer7697@Marvelousgamer76973 ай бұрын
  • I do admire the effort you put into these speculations on behalf of Marvel. Of course the biggest question is, will Marvel allow Doom to keep his mask on at all times, or will it be popping on and off as quickly as Spidey’s and Tony’s do?

    @RH1812@RH18123 ай бұрын
  • 👏👏👏Top Tier video!! We need to find some way for Screen Crush to get in marvels writing rooms. This was a perfect theory and would make so much sense and would be a seem less transition from kang!!

    @Jaggedcoast2coast@Jaggedcoast2coast3 ай бұрын
  • You had me at the Sally Field quote in the Thumbnail!

    @alisterfolson@alisterfolson3 ай бұрын
  • Cillian as doom is such an great idea i need him

    @doyttokkie@doyttokkie3 ай бұрын
  • I love it, and I really want Doom to be the Secret Wars threat. My only overall concern would be how is Marvel going to show all that you have explained in a movie and make it work? It would need it's own dedicated movie, and it would be a mistake to squeeze this backstory into another movie like they tried to do with the Conqueror. There is a lot to unfold. With that said, it worked with Thanos. There wasn't any backstory with him. The thing they did right with him though was make him an immediate threat and showed how much power he has and how ruthless he is. Not sure how they could do that with Doom IF they want to play him as sort of a protagonist that turns antagonist.

    @302hugo@302hugo3 ай бұрын
    • A TV series that leads to a big movie about him could work

      @danielmibuulo658@danielmibuulo6583 ай бұрын
    • @@danielmibuulo658a big movie followed by this series. That would work better

      @ked49@ked492 ай бұрын
  • This is fantastic. So much unused Sokovia threads that could make this theory plausible. Plus, it might lead to more Zemo action.

    @Rockhead84@Rockhead843 ай бұрын
  • Yo! This is dope. I wish you wrote for the MCU. Your story’s are almost always better.

    @yaimcjsdad@yaimcjsdad3 ай бұрын
  • Dr. Doom is the apex predator of villainy in the Marvel Universe. He will fight anyone, and he is most dangerous to anyone or anything that has more power than he does. His own power is substantial enough to pose a threat to anyone who might try to challenge or attack him, regardless of their level of power. He is the villain that all other villains should look up to...

    @mattchew6426@mattchew64263 ай бұрын
    • He's the inevitability of relentlessness and cunning!!

      @beyond_the_tequila_rift3194@beyond_the_tequila_rift31943 ай бұрын
    • @@beyond_the_tequila_rift3194 Yeah, he's the epitome of what nobody should want to mess with...

      @mattchew6426@mattchew64263 ай бұрын
    • Absolutely correct. Doom is to supervillains what Superman is to superheroes. Doom is also THE poster villain of Marvel. He's not a jobber, not a one-film baddie, not a one-Phase baddie, and not a one-saga baddie. Doom is the GOAT.

      @BibleAlivePresentations@BibleAlivePresentations3 ай бұрын
    • @@BibleAlivePresentations Well said... The fact that lowly Doombots have given the majority of Marvel heroes a tough time means that none of them go looking to take on the genuine article. Even really mean dogs know not to mess with meaner dogs...

      @mattchew6426@mattchew64263 ай бұрын
  • Bro you are by far the best with knowledge transfer man. Thanks for the hard work. Love the content

    @pauloboyle477@pauloboyle4773 ай бұрын
  • I am surprised how you didn't use a single shot of Murphy's Scarecrow to show us Dr. Dooms proto mask / covered face😂 great work anyway you are the best

    @akaraulov@akaraulov3 ай бұрын
  • Dude, These concept ideas are GREAT! Marvel needs to hire you as a writer... and Doug :)

    @kennym555@kennym5552 ай бұрын
  • This is brilliant. Great storytelling Ryan.

    @pedroperurena7902@pedroperurena79023 ай бұрын
  • Nicely put together!

    @andrevaneeden5123@andrevaneeden51233 ай бұрын
  • So ryan wrote this video? Great job. My guess is that whenever he doesn’t mention the writer at the end it means that he wrote the whole thing. One more reason to love this dude even more.

    @danielpguitar@danielpguitar3 ай бұрын
  • I've watched many of your vids, and i often have real problems with your takes. But this one is Great!. so great that i suspect it will never happen.

    @elijahhope4581@elijahhope45813 ай бұрын
  • I came here for Doug. Then, again and again, I am captivated by your mind-blowing power for storytelling.

    @Reciprocity_Soils@Reciprocity_Soils3 ай бұрын
  • This would make a fantastic introduction of the character via a limited series on Disney Plus.

    @mrhoeft@mrhoeft3 ай бұрын
  • Awesome! I’ve said this once before, but you should be writing for Marvel Studios. This was put together wonderfully. Nice job.

    @TK_junction@TK_junction3 ай бұрын
  • It's so perplexing to me that one very talented KZhead content creator can explain such a great way to tell story in less than 30 minutes but the billion dollar industry that Disney and Marvel is can't make good quality 2 hour movies anymore.

    @KalanzoHI@KalanzoHI3 ай бұрын
  • That was a great theory! I hope we see that flashback in a Doom special presentation so that they won't fast forward it in the movie

    @Nico12420@Nico124203 ай бұрын
  • Incredible story crafting. Thank you!

    @miguel-angelgarcia9367@miguel-angelgarcia93672 ай бұрын
  • Well currently I'm convinced that Loki will create Battleworld after the Kang's destroy themselves with the multiversal war however what if Doom is the real reason the Kangs die, taking all their powers, Loki pulls together what he can and Doom then uses his new powers to enslave him, and control everything it would then mirror in the comics where Doom used the Human Torch as a replacement Sun with Loki having replaced the Loom and everyone could think that Loki is the God Emperor when in fact it is Doom all along...

    @TempestFirestrike@TempestFirestrike3 ай бұрын
  • I never doubted that Doom would be the Big Bad. I just thought that Kang would be a lead-up to that. Doom's ancestor is Dracula and I'm sure that would come up in Blade.

    @AlSween@AlSween3 ай бұрын
    • Ancestors since when?? I thought they were just enemies / neighbors (Latveria v Transylvania)

      @mon_nobi@mon_nobi3 ай бұрын
  • I love it!, As an Artist, I was able to visualize the whole thing as you spoke,

    @mindrealmillustrations9234@mindrealmillustrations92343 ай бұрын
  • Thanks for such a detailed analysis. Top work

    @J0hn029@J0hn0293 ай бұрын
  • Great video. I’d had some similar ideas but this is way more detailed and makes loads of sense, tying up quite a few loose ends as well. Question is how do they execute this? I almost think a four part Books of Doom Disney+ special could be the way forward, maybe dropped between Avengers 5 and 6..? Doom could be revealed as the big villain at the end of 5 and then we take a pause from everything else in between those movies to tell his full backstory.

    @jackparkes4092@jackparkes40923 ай бұрын
  • 25 minutes and then I remembered you and I care about these stories way more than the studios do now.

    @alexanderdumas-@alexanderdumas-3 ай бұрын
  • a scene of young reed and young doom would be such a great introduction into secret wars

    @alsimmons4730@alsimmons47302 ай бұрын
  • Such an amazing channel. Disney really needs to run with this.

    @Andrijko85@Andrijko853 ай бұрын
  • Marvel should hire your team to write the scripts going forward. This is some great stuff, Ryan.

    @onedayearly@onedayearly3 ай бұрын
  • Good heavens!!!! That would be amazing to see. It would need to be a Series with a high budget to pull off... But definitely doable and lots of cameos with other high profile actors to better sell it.

    @andrewcasey7023@andrewcasey70233 ай бұрын
  • This would actually be real cool. A whole movie dedicated to this would be amazing and a really unique addition to the MCU.

    @Aman_9612@Aman_96123 ай бұрын
  • Kang is just more interesting imo for now! Would be so sad if we don't get to the conclusion of the current saga. The whole story is so intricate and well-thought, it's so sellable - the kind that ages like fine wine.

    @bsgang2.0@bsgang2.03 ай бұрын
    • Im assuming referring to the current as saga "sellable" is sarcasm. Lol. If not, read this comment in 3 years and see if it ages like fine wine!

      @robn880@robn8803 ай бұрын
  • Great work and a big reason I definitely appreciate it is because I wrote a fantastic four movie treatment in college were (coincidentally, or just common comic knowledge creative sense) I too included Doom’s Time platform as a way he traveled to the future and fix time,haha! I wish Disney’s writers read more comics.

    @r.j.amadeus9128@r.j.amadeus91283 ай бұрын
  • I've been thinking the same thing about Doom pulling strings in the background this whole time.

    @DSphoxluci38@DSphoxluci383 ай бұрын
  • Another home run! Damn it. If Feige doesn’t take this route, I’ll be pissed. You’ve changed your mind on Doom entering the MCU for Secret Wars so many times it seems lol

    @westcoastavenger@westcoastavenger3 ай бұрын
  • This is your best video yet! I hope Kevin Feige and friends watch this video and make it into reality!

    @jeremyy8962@jeremyy89623 ай бұрын
  • Awesome Job!

    @quasar7096@quasar70962 ай бұрын
  • This sounds wild and improbable but then I remembered that it is DOOM and nothing is beyond his control.

    @danglennon5642@danglennon5642Ай бұрын
  • Hey, truly want to say thank you for always making a better mcu

    @chrisschell87@chrisschell873 ай бұрын
  • I’m glad your back Ryan

    @TheSavageVisionchannel@TheSavageVisionchannel3 ай бұрын
  • Excellant!!! B Aries, you should be a writer alongside K Fiege!

    @tablist33@tablist333 ай бұрын
  • A pretty cool Disney+ should could be basically having someone in "the present day" of the MCU "putting together" this whole web, and each time they discover another piece of evidence (be it a photo of Doom with Reed, or a journal entry etc.) we see "the important stuff" in a flashback and basically each episode covers how Doom learned the thing(s) he did, has the power he has etc. It could even be Doom the whole time narrating his own Origin Story to an Official Chronicler

    @KrazyKobold@KrazyKobold3 ай бұрын
  • This idea it's just beyond great. This could easily be two movies that culminate as a sort of trilogy on the avengers battle world story

    @anakinwar2009@anakinwar20093 ай бұрын
  • Please make shipping for screen crush merch available worldwide. I really want that Nelson & Murdoch shirt

    @xxPenjoxx@xxPenjoxx3 ай бұрын
  • Yeah this guy break down is interesting description of alot of things. Thanks

    @rodolfogomezjr7196@rodolfogomezjr71962 ай бұрын
  • That was amazing! Putting this out into the universe: I hope Marvel plays one of MF Doom's tracks in the Marvel opening scene in a Dr Doom movie.

    @rasheem219@rasheem2193 ай бұрын
  • Amazing. I need this to be real. Well played, Ryan.

    @KodyK82@KodyK823 ай бұрын
  • The MCU needs to put you on their pay roll. That is a brilliant idea for Dr. Doom in the MCU and a good way to get everything back on track.

    @anionhero@anionhero3 ай бұрын
  • Great breakdown, without spoiling too much.

    @tyranix9785@tyranix97853 ай бұрын
  • Finding this video as I'm drawing Cillian Murphy Doom to satisfy my NEED FOR THIS CASTING is divine intervention.

    @daisyquinn6202@daisyquinn62023 ай бұрын
  • You totally glossed over the brief clip of a statue in Multiverse of Madness, in the temple on Mount Wundagore, which was, very clearly, the inspiration for Doom's armor. It looked pretty much exactly like his Hell Armor. How is no one talking about this?

    @micmacha@micmacha3 ай бұрын
  • Loved every idea here, but Disney would never go that deep into the story like that.

    @wilmedina8368@wilmedina83682 ай бұрын
  • A+ theory, I love the idea of doom being in the sidelines all along. Doom should be a multi movie spanning buildup threat

    @vampyrerain@vampyrerainАй бұрын
  • Even if none of this stuff comes to pass, this video is a reminder of how much of a badass Dr. Doom is.

    @RetroSho@RetroSho2 ай бұрын
  • You give good theory, my man! I dig it!

    @jimna3@jimna33 ай бұрын
  • His back story will be seen The Coventry of Chaos series,his mother was a part of the covenant of witches and taken by Maphisto

    @damonking6877@damonking68773 ай бұрын
  • I loved EVERY second of this. This theory alone is light years better than what Marvel has been doing for the last 10+ years.

    @kyholt04@kyholt043 ай бұрын
  • I like this, however in my own head, Klaw got his prosthetic hand from Doom, his favorite client for Vibranium. Doom bought the vibranium, but sought the Wakanda tech even more. Also SHIELD was already aware that the Tesseract could open a gateway; after Rogers was unfrozen, in his debriefing he explained how the Red Skull had been teleported by it during their fight on the bomber, SHIELD then began experimenting with it. Hawkeye was only acknowledging to Nick that it was a doorway.

    @Mr-Evil-Dave@Mr-Evil-Dave3 ай бұрын
  • It's legitimately devastating that this is far better thought out than a Marvel movie could ever be.

    @Cerebaton@Cerebaton3 ай бұрын
  • Glad to see you are finally coming around. It was ALWAYS Doom for the end of the Multiverse Saga. VERY BRILLIANT and CREATIVE. But a simple monkey wrench can upset your set-up: what if the Fantastic Four (and thus Doom himself) hail from the Kennedy-era early 1960s? There is a strong possibility that they do. Which would make 48-year old Pedro Pascal/Reed Richards and 46-year old Ebon Moss-Bachrach/Ben Grimm in 1960 born in 1912 and 1914, respectively. Doom would be born around then also. College would be in the early 1930s for the three of them, really before S.H.I.E.L.D. began. Reed and Ben would have been in their 30s fighting in WWII. In the 1950s, Professor Richards would be teaching college (and possibly a genius teenager named Hank Pym) and Doom would be studying the Dark Arts and overturning the Latverian government (think Castro). The space-mission that made the FF would happen ca. 1960. Consider this: Doom doesn't need paradoxes to make time travel or Tony Stark to inspire his suit of armor. He certainly doesn't need an arc reactor. The time travel he invents with his Space-Time Platform (his greatest invention, the second being the Power Siphon) must be tied with his quest to find and free his mother's soul -- the whole Orobourus-paradox is a Kang set-up. That circle doesn't spiral to Doom. But Doom does unravel it. 31st-century Nathaniel Richards (Kang-Prime) is a genius but not at original thought, unlike Doom. The genius of the Kangs is recognition of brilliance, synthesis of multiple discoveries and inventions and augmentation of these, and application. In other words, by discovering Doom's Space-Time Platform, Nathaniel Richards became the Kangs, but Doom doesn't need the Kangs. Alternative scenario: The FF are established in 1960 in their upcoming film. We see a Dick Tracey inspired montage of their earliest adventures featuring glimpses of the likes of the Mole Man and perhaps even an underwater expedition showing the audience an unseen Namor observing these curious surface dwellers and being amazed by Sue Storm. But this is all quick, showcasing the fame of these explorers and perhaps hiding from the public their powersets. Doom is NOT featured for long in the upcoming FANTASTIC FOUR, but long enough to abduct the FF and take them to Latveria with nods to FF VOL I issue 5 by Stan Lee and Jack Kirby. He manipulates the Four, working on the resentment the disfigured Thing has for Reed due to the poor shielding used on their recent space mission. Doom leans heavily into the "Reed Richards is RECKLESS narrative." Then he drops a bombshell on the Foursome: Doom introduces his Platform and explains that one of Reed and Sue's 31st-century descendants will tyrannically rule all reality and that this is all to be blamed on Reed's hubris and recklessness. He will coerce the Four to travel to an alternate future timeline where they must acquire a device that can fix everything, the Ultimate Nullifier. In that Timeline, a Cosmic Being known as Galactus has come to devour all life on Earth. Doom sends them forward through time... but as they observe Galactus approaching, they are contacted by the Watcher who warns them about Doom's plan and the rest of the movie continues, with the Four somehow overcoming Galactus and, lost to time and their own universe, trying to return to Earth 616... which they eventually do, but only right before Incursions are about to wipe out the Multiverse. So Doom never gets his Ultimate Nullifier and can't wipe out the Kangs that way. So he eventually settles on Wanda. He becomes the greatest student of Cogliostro, and masters time to the point where he does not significantly age. He quietly rules Latveria through the 70s, 80s, 90s, and the events that follow with Thanos and the Blip, not interfering but biding his time, assisted by his ability to peer forward in various timelines. Eventually, Doom prevents Wanda's suicide. He convinces her that both her destiny and redemption lie in obliterating the Kangs and, perhaps, the strange Atlas Figure who sits holding timelines together on the Axis Mundi... she does this in AVENGERS V. Also we see Doom resurrect Ultron and repurpose it to serve as Doom's bodyguard (IRON HEART and ARMOR WARS). Doom was probably behind sponsoring Riri Williams and it may very well be revealed that Lake Bell's character, Williams' professor who obviously has a life beyond academia, works for Doom and is even Latverian. In obliterating the status quo of the Multiverse, the Scarlet triggers unstoppable Incursions. DOCTOR STRANGE 3 (TRIUMPH & TORMENT) provide both a sympathetic and horrific look at Doom who, I think, by movie's end becomes God, seizing the power of dying Eternity (we don't need the Beyonder and with Wanda, we don't need the Molecule Man). Doom creates Battleworld.

    @BibleAlivePresentations@BibleAlivePresentations3 ай бұрын
  • What a great way to explain Doom’s origin and emergence in the MCU. You killed it! I agree with alot of commenters here too- it should be a Dr. Doom movie first and weave all this into it.

    @VitaminCee_38@VitaminCee_383 ай бұрын
  • This is good stuff. You should be in the MCU writers room.

    @drndn@drndn3 ай бұрын
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