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The sparks from the Flow suppressor are residual materials left over from the 3D printing process. Huxwrx states that you need to break in the suppressor with a certain number of rounds for the sparks to burn off. Sometimes the instructions are helpful :)
I feel like this would have been VERY useful information in the video!
I’ve heard that too but I’ve yet to see any of them not have the sparks
@@andrewwhitson2472i doubt most influncers are torture testing there suppressors before starting the video
Done testing with them, longer barrels won't spark as much, but short barrels are wicked.
@andrewwhitson2472 you haven't shot enough rounds through one yet to see that they do go away
I’m calling it. He won’t pick a silencer.
They are suppressor not the same as the Hollywood silencer only with sub sonic round in .45acp .300blk and .22lr will it ever be Hollywood quite
@@livingtheamericandreaminth1872Hiram Maxim's original patent called it a "silencer". All references to it for Form 4 registration are also "silencer". While suppressor is more "appropriate" of a term, it is not the proper legal term.
@@GriffXJ yes but it dose not silence full power ammo it only hides flash and throw the shot signature off that's it and helps a little with reliability and a little on accuracy
@@livingtheamericandreaminth1872 I understand that, which is why I said suppressor may be a more appropriate term in regards to actual function and outcomes, but speaking legally, it is not the "correct" term. I own a few NFA items and I'm familiar with shooting suppressed, there's a video of my AP5-P SBR with a Rugged Obsidian on my channel. 147gr 9mm and .45 ACP both sound awesome with my silencer, but they're far from silent, still pushing about 125-135dB depending on caliber and configuration.
He never picks a winner. His comparison videos are useless.
Suppressors deal with many variables related to heat and pressures. These variables often requires for the host to be modified for proper function and this is where flow through technology comes in. These flow through suppressors allows for unaltered hosts to safely function. The downside, less attenuation of noise & more heat signature.
I love Surefire for their reliability. I'm planning on picking up an RC2 for my 12.5" ADM. Great video!
I needed this. Thanks Clint.
I love the idea of the Huxwrx, but there are a couple additional pros and cons, including: - saw a rep on a tfb TV video claim that you do *not* need an adjustable gas block. That’s HUGE - The width is definitely a problem if 1) you want the 7.62/.30 cal version, and 2) you want to “tuck” it in an AR-15 handguard (which I’m planning to do for a .300 Blackout pistol); most regular hand guard widths are around 1.4ish inches. Most suppressors are 1.5 inches wide, and the widest handguard means for suppressors that I’ve found (there aren’t too many) is 1.7 inches. The Huxwrx 7.62 is 1.8 inches though :/
Yes, this is exactly the kind of information I wanted about a suppressor… include the night time flash reduction videos about EVERY suppressor you feature from now on? Also, can you do AB suppressors next?
Love to see you do with silencers! Especially comparing a few in the same class.
What’s y’all’s camera set up. It looks killer
Gotta go with the new Hux Ventum 762 for my X95 but staying with my Banish 30 on my Tavor 7, Adams Arms 556, and Ruger 6mm Creed.
Have both. Huxwrx wins. Not even close.
Reliability and longevity is important. Im sticking with Surefire. It's proven!!!
@@Classicfireams345 I can’t wait to see 🙏🏽
yup even though I like my huxwrk can more,the longevity of the rc2 is superior
What about the new silencer co. Velos LBP. I want to see all 3 in a one video I can’t find many videos of the new velos.
Your rifle would be more reliable with a flow 556k due to less fouling. Also hux has full cans with ever 65k on them.
at some point the surefire was new, things have to have time to be proven lmao we can’t just discard it because it’s new
I remember when the OSS helix costed as much as my sandman s. The damn military contracts made the prices jump up on the oss/huxwrx
If I was buying now I’d probably go Hux but I’ve had my SF can since 2018 & have no need to replace it. I personally don’t get any gas in my face with a triarc barrel, A5 buffer system & Geissele charging handle
Clint, did you swap out muzzle devices at the range? I know that HuxWrx QD is proprietary. That's one reason why I don't jump on it.
I really like the concept of flow through and the self torquing is pretty cool along with the 3d printing I havnt bought any cans yet but I've been looking at them lately and I believe I'm going with a huxwrx can first but I really wanna check out vox they use a metal for their cans that im intrigued with
Now there is the Surefire RC3 suppressor!
Yeah, I would love to see that compared to the HRXWRX along with other low back pressure offerings from other manufacturers.
So which one is going to be quitter at a 16" barrel length
Great video. Quick question - I have an RC2 and an SB2. I run the RC2 on a rifle and the SB2 on a 10.5” SBR. Am I correct that the RC2 runs just fine on a 10.5? That certainly would seem to be the case based on the video, but I’m interested to see what other folks have experienced using RC2s on SBRs.
Newbie. I thought the QD function required different muzzle devices for each suppresor? How are you swapping suppressors between guns? Are you changing the muzzle devices as well?
The RC2 is still my pick and what I own, both the 5.56 & 7.62, though I really do like the HW tech, though the night-time muzzle signature was a bit much for me. Once the HW tech is perfected, I believe it will change my mind, and possibly cause me to purchase a HW5.56 can. Great general comparison of these 2 products!
Clint didn’t follow instructions, break in rounds to get rid of residual material left over after 3D printing where not met thus sparks.
Huxwrx website and instructions say 200 rounds break-in required to eliminate sparks from 3D build. I have a mini2 SF on a DD M4A1 and putting a Hux Flow 762 Ti on a Sig Cross 308 16”
Wish you had commented on the 'point of impact shift' with each mounting system. I'm leaning toward the Hux 30 cal can.
Great video. I'm trying to make the decide between these two suppressors for my MK18. I feel that rifle needs the RC2 on it but the 556K is a nice unit also.
been needing this video
For high round count larping/training, I’d grab a flow through can or even a Surefire trainer. Less filth, less gas in the face, less parts wear. If I had to pick one for extended serious use, I’d grab a Surefire SOCOM.
What’s special about the socom
So for 9mm 45acp 556 and 762x39 what's the best do all can if one exist 🤔
The platform also makes a big difference. I have a few OSS/HuxWrx for my AK variants and longer barrel AR's since the sparks dont seem to happen when using full length barrels nearly as much. I also have/use a few brands of baffled suppressors for my shorter and piston AR's, bolt guns, and pistols. All depends on the gun and also how use plan on using it. If he never goes out and shoots at night needing to keep his location as obscure as possible then it really doesn't matter. But the reliability and longevity of use of that RC is not something you can dismiss either....
OSS is just if not more reliable. it just not been around as long..
What is the advantage of baffled for piston AR’s? They don’t need less back pressure? Or ?
When y’all getting the Silencer Co Velos LBP I’d like to see it compared to these two suppressors.
I'm curious how they compare to CGS Hyperion/Helios
Is there any truth to the huxworx plugging up those small passages? Is that why the much lower round count?
So lots of sparks sort of ruins it for the military's signature reduction needs. My understanding is sound reduction is mostly for communication needs. RC2 for me. If/when I look as a sub-sonic round may revisit the technologies.
Same. For 556 flash signature is more important than sound reduction in my opinion. If it was 300blk or something I would start to think about sound more
I use the huxwrx for my “pistols”, it’s just the best purely for the gasses on my 10.3’s. However if you have a 16” or somewhere close to that. You can pretty much pick which QD mounting system you like better.
POI shift is also an important consideration.
How? That has nothing to do with the function of the suppressor
@@totenfurwotan4478 it most certainly does with some suppressors.
@@totenfurwotan4478how would impact shift not be a consideration when considering a suppressor…? Sheeeesh
@@mattjtx93 because it happens to all of them and it makes no difference if its 3inches or 10 you need to zero you optic for your suppressor no matter the suppressor
I think repeatable poi shift would be a consideration so it stays zeroed when reattached.
Sometimes you need a little back pressure. I need some back pressure to cycle my AK with subsonic rounds.
Silencerco Velos and Griffin Dual Lok 5 might be better?
What a question… These two have got to be the heaviest hitters out there. I’m still gonna give the split decision to HuxWrx.
Significantly lighter too.
And won’t gas you out.
check out the Velos LBP!
Would you have picked the flow through with the piston gun?
If you want the same performance for only twice the money, surefire rc3 is out now and is only just barely double the cost of the HUXWRX 🤦♂️
So, would a small crush washer help with removing the suppressor when it becomes torqued?
I have an older OSS HX-QD 556 and its pretty good. Obviously it's not as quiet but you also don't have to tune your rile and get all the back pressure.
i have the older one as well.. its quite a enough. its 556 after all. but how the sound is different meaning harder to pin point if you hear it and then the flash..
i was told it sparked less. and was able to pick it up for 900 total including stamp. It's in jail now. Hopefully I don't regret not getting an RC2 when I see the HXDQ at night.
18:33 I feel like I missed something. Or a few things. Was there supposed to be some drone footage in this video?
FBI pick it simply must be the best, like the 40 SW
40 sucks but IDK man. I got an RC2, RC2-MINI and a Flow 556K and it just kicks ass compared to the SureFires I have.
@@YeetCannon254I got to compare the two last weekend both on a 12.5” host. I wouldn’t call it night and day. I was a little disappointed tbh. Hoping the hux would be far superior but the sound was so close it’s not even funny.
The FBI rescinded their decision about .40SW
Good mash up, they're very close sounding IRL.
Looking at the purchasing a X95 so the Flow556 is of great interest
What QD is used for RC2 and what QD for flow556k
I have both and silencerco! oss (huxwrx)is all I run I love it
What about on a full 16 inch gun and instead of the 3 pong how about a muzzle break
Hey Clint, do you think you can do a video on tripod for rifles?
Would have liked to see a test with a sound meter here
I love the surefire
One thing he didn't talk about is round count. I believe the hux is rated for about 10,000 rounds while the Surefire can have over 50,000 with people having over 80,000 rounds.
Rob ski has 30k on some of his OSS cans well now they huxwerx. The flow thru technology is a better system that's why the u.s. military uses both of them
It’s rated for 10000 assuming it’s never cleaned
It’s rated for 20,000 rounds which is listed on Iraq veteran video
This is incorrect, I emailed huxwrx support about this and I encourage you to do so too. The 10k number was an FBI requirement on an SBR with out any cleaning and they removed it from the flow 556k's whitepaper. Huxwrx has cans with over 50k rounds through them with periodic cleaning every 1-2k rounds. Plus they can now recore them so even if you do manage to shoot one out you're safe.
How many people are actually putting 50,000 rounds through their suppressor? I guarantee you it's a VERY small percent in comparison to the number owned.
Sad that you spent the time to shoot low light, and then blocked the muzzle with your PoV cam. Next time, block the action which we can't see in the dark anyway.
I couldn’t decide either so I bought both!
Oh heck. Get both!! I would!!
Great information
Torque lock, would'nt that add some torquing twisting to your hold on the gun?
Glad he did night shoot I have 2 SUREFIRE and I was looking for a third GREAT INFO!
CGS with Griffin Dual Lock mounting. If I had auto chose between Hux or Surfire, I’d go with Hux.
Both are great
The flow-through suppressor probably threw sparks from unburnt powder...flowing through. It would be neat to see how they perform on a longer barrel setup like a 14.5, 16, and 18 or 20.
I'd love to see it on a 20" barrel.
Yeah, especially since I have an 18" on the way...
It's made of titanium, the sparks are actually from small particulates of titanium being stripped from the internals and burning. Huxwrx claims the sparking lessens over time as the silencer is used more.
@@2coolperson the 5.56K isnt TI, the 7.62 TI is TI
@@javiernavarro3839 Ah yes you are correct.
Well guys, they’re both good. Pick which one fits your needs and budget.
K size vs a full size. Gotta do a proper comparison with the RC2 mini.
Now time to compare with the RC3
It would smoke both. In all but noise.
Really want a Hux for my X95. It's a gassy monster so the Huxwrx makes more sense
So Clint like girth and not length?
I enjoy the channel but this particular comparison doesn’t feel right and just wanted to right down some thoughts. 1. Comparing a K can to a full size can length and weight wise is a little silly. If this was the Mini 2 it would be .5” shorter than the Hux and just 2 ounces heavier. 2. Carbon lock was mentioned but after shooting the surefire, it could be removed with two fingers while the Hux had to be removed off camera? 3. Flowthrough tech should be less gas to the shooter sure and would certainly be less gassy than a surefire mini2 but perceived recoil very much depends on a number of factors such as shooter position, ammo, weight of the gun, grip etc. 4. The guns were never fired prone from cover, does the gas out the front stir up dust or debris that may affect the shooter’s view or give away their position? 5. Ability to be serviced, what repair options are there for the Hux in the event of a baffle strike or cracking being a 3d printed can? The life expectancy for the money spent between the Hux and Surefire. 6. Night shooting, why was the drone footage covering up the side view of the muzzle, imo the drone footage there was a clear difference in sparks from the hux compared to the surefire. The flowthrough cans like the Hux are exciting because we are seeing interesting things enter the market. The Hux seems to be great in the right applications, I know everything can’t be covered in a relatively short video but it did feel a little bias to the Hux.
I like your points and to add/reinforce if shooting in a "group" 556K would not be good, surefire clear winner for my 2 cents
If you let the huxwrx cool off it comes off much easier than when it is still hot but it does have wrench flats if your in a hurry
The hux can be sent in a recored if there is a strike. Also it is supposed to be cleaned every 1-2k rounds for best suppression.
All excellent points, thank you!
@@austin5303 how do you clean a suppressor that is printed and it’s all in one?
What lower is he using on the 11.5” Daniel Defense rifle?
I ordered the huxwrks about 5 months in first can I’m excited!!!
I would love to have the huxflow suppresser.
I feel like flash signature is one of the most important aspects of a silencer, and the SureFire takes the win in my opinion for that reason
Absolutely is for the "tactical/combat" minded shooter. For something like sport shooting or hunting, I'd say it's one of the last considerations if a consideration at all. I personally prefer better flash signature as one of the "tactical" shooters.
not to mention most of the gas coming back, which is a good thing in a tactical sense, because you won't illuminate it with IR light.
Clint didn’t followed the instructions for the 3D printed silencer
Actual winner? The Sig SLX, if you want a flow through can then I personally recommend that Sig suppressor or another from their SL lineup of new 3D laser sintered “printed” cans over the HUX or Surefire.
Why would ablnybody choose a sig flow through can over huxworx lol that's like picking a new electric Kia over a tesla. Huxworx pioneered the flow through technology. Why would anyone go with sig? Sig Def doesn't have the performance that the hux flow through cans have.
Is Surefire keeping the US SOCOM suppressor contract?
Yes, I love Silencers 👌👌💖
HuxWrx Flow556k definitely due to the weight and the flow thru technology!
Huxwrx flow through technology is awesome. I do wonder what the flash would would be like if you used the HUXWRX Muzzle Brake-QD 556
What about vs the Sico Velos LBP?
Both of them I like it.
I want the Surefire SB2 to run on a 10.5 inch barrel and M855 green tip.
Awesome job. These are the two cans I'm interested in getting too.
I've found both closer to 1-1100$ on silencer shop but the huxwrk has option for the muzzle device at that price range as well
To be fair, the 556K is meant for barrels longer than 12.5 inches. If you’re going to be running a 12.5 or shorter you should be using one of their longer suppressors.
I have the surefire sb2 idk why they sold me on that instead of rc2 or what the difference is really but I can say it’s heavy
Anyone notice he’s trying to take the suppressor off going clock wise? Maybe that’s why it’s so tight….
What foregrip is that on the gun with the huxworx?
Got the 556K a few months ago. Use it on my IWI X95 and Saint Edge. The X95 has noticeably more gas due to the design, but can be mitigated very well with a few mods. I notice zero gas back to the face with the Edge. Both have 16" barrels and, while I haven't done a lot of night shooting, I haven't gotten the sparking on the 556K... Maybe an issue inherent with the shorted setup?
can u put those on a 22 pistol?
That gun is awesome w the sling ngl.
Way Less signature with the surefire, I’m taking that one all night! Point of impact shift taking the surefire all day and night.
I was working on a sopmod block 2 "clone" my intent was to spress in the near future as i dont currently have a suppressor. I had a warcomp but discovered it is not the best to suppress. So i was hunting for a 3 prong which for some reason is non existent. I also have a X95 which alot of people say the huxwrx flow is a great suppressor for that and not wanting to mess with an adjustable on my sopmod i decided to get the hux flash hider to pin and weld. Durability is a concern so i may go with the QD TI
You really don’t need to tune DI ARs for the RC2. I put mine on a 10.3 mk18 mod 1, a 10.5 mk18 mod 0, a 14.5 urgi (mid length gas), and a 16 AR (carbine gas). No adjustable gas blocks or BCGs and they all run great.
There's always the SOLGW NOX muzzle device. Three prong, comp and qd for keymo mounted supressors which there are a bunch of manufacturers supressors that will take that qd system. Also makes 13.7" barrels 16.1" and there's no ringing like other 3 & 4 prongs
Best suppressor for 300 blk subs or at least quietest bang for your buck
Surefire RC2
What’s the quietest suppressor 556 suppressor on the market ???
Can you do a308 next?
I would take the SureFire all day everyday, they have been combat tested.
Ah yes because that always means something is better. Lol.
@@noway6633 dont be mad because you cant afford one!
@@noway6633he’s not wrong
I would like see GemTech Suppresser
I have a question is the 300 black out meant to be use only suppressed?
No you can shoot with them unsuppressed, they make subsonic ammo that makes it more quiet when shooting suppressed
Great video bro
Can ya do video on 11.5 Cgs Helio Hux 556k Cat 718 Sci Six
The best suppressor in a 3 liter duct taped to the end of your gun
This!