Darth Vader vs Obi-Wan Kenobi | Full Final Fight | HD

yes

They got the flow of one to the other absolutely spot on.

And they got that third, Vader without the mask distortion, voice spot on too. That voice that speaks is it’s own entity right at that switch in tone when Anakin falls away. HC really nails that acting.

The lighting too, you can tell vader is regretting going to the darkside when obi wans blue lightsaber is emitting, shortly after vaders red saber emits as if the dark side overtook anakin too much in that stage of life.

Yeah that was fricking sick

In my opinion, that’s the whole point of the helmet, it de-humanizes Vader makes us see him more as a machine/something unfeeling, and the helmet signifies the absence of Anakin. Hence why it is so shocking and powerful when the helmet is broken, because we get a glimpse at a character who was seemingly gone. Also physically hearing Anakin’s voice at the end plays into the internal struggle happening. All and all, this scene in my opinion, was beautifully executed; not only in enhancing the characters of both Anakin/Vader and Obi-Wan, but playing on the viewers nostalgia and attachment to the characters. I think many feel as you feel towards this scene because of our own connections to story and the people in it.

@@Maddie-gb7rw well said

Also when he finally takes the helmet off

“That name no longer has any meaning for me.” -Darth Vader :(

Not just Anakin, our Anakin, the Anakin we grew up with 😞

good acting for sure

I feel like Hayden and Ewan are those types of actors who get a script to read from when they're in a scene together and just throw away the scripts and improv solely based off their chemistry.

It was definitely a great scene, but makes no sense Obi-Wan would leave him alive other than it has to happen for plot. After completely accepting that Anakin is gone he could finally bring himself to end Darth for the good of the galaxy...that's what frustrates me about this show, in the end nothing could come of it.

@@Jake-cm9jj I like to think Obi-Wan lets Vader live for similar reasons that Luke allows Vader to live in episode 6. I think we all knew the outcome of this fight, but the journey, not the destination is what’s important. There was some great dialogue in this scene, and the fight choreography was pretty good in my opinion

@@cdf360 Luke let him live because he had just killed the emperor and come back from the Dark Side...That is NOT what happened here. Vader made it clear that he had embraced the dark here willingly and was going to keep being evil. There is no good reason for Obi-Wan not to end him and spare the galaxy his evil other than it was was a forgone conclusion.

I also like the one where he kills a clone of Darth maul by impaling his own stomach to stab maul. Maul then asks "what can you possibly hate enough in order to defeat me". Vader replies "Myself"

@@kevinmauricio4747 damn 😕

@@kevinmauricio4747 that was a good piece from legends

That or when he says you didn't kill Anikin....i did. Really shows that by becoming Darth Vader, he really gave into the Darkside and felt no redemption was possible.

Anakin talks kinda weird in the prequel movies because Hayden was trying to mimic some of Vader's cadence and speech patterns, the only difference between them is the voice modulator and that's canon since the OG trilogy. So glad we get to see his dedication seeping out of everywhere, this is probably the single best scene of Star Wars in years.

it didn't fix ANYTHING, there's no reason for this fight to have happened at all.

@@GreenLightMe of course there is a reason dude, the money :v

@@GreenLightMe What ? No reason ? Vader have been searching for Obi-Wan / revenge many years. He found him on this planet - and they fought - how is that no reason? And it did fix the gap between the Vader actors

@@norsefire835 Vader said in a NEW HOPE that was the first time they MET in 18 years. So how did he forget about this stupid Match where he almost got killed.

I love this comment. So true. Let us enjoy it for them. Let us not forget that the "SW story" will live beyond George Lucas' life. My life. And yours.

Bro don’t make me cry I just stopped 🤣

They are watching from the stars, far far away....

Because it’s the same old same old we’ve already seen this fight and it’s ending. (And it was better) Star Wars died after the prequel‘s. I’m not happy about it I’ve just excepted it

@@edema123456 When did we watch Darth Vader fight Obiwan?

Resentful, hateful...living in his "head", as opposed to the present moment. It's an old story in the real world we live in, and it's very sad. :(

Same way Maul screamed Kenobi!

It gets me hard

Mannnn frrr

Remember when in the clone wars obi wan faked his death and anakin screamed the same thing

Actually that's not true and the latter exchange proves that at this point Obiwan is actually still blaming himself for all what happened and as such views it as his responsibility viewing Anakin as his failure, yet ironically Vader tries to warn him that this is exactly what lead to Anakins fall and that Obiwan is falling to the same trap he did before him. Because Anakin fallen to the dark side because of his own guilt and regret.

no ? he uses this term precisely because it's not what he wants to do, but what he *must* do

at the start of the fight, he considered Anakin and Vader to be one and the same. since he feels responsible for Anakin because he was his master, and therefore responsible for all the evil that Vader/Anakin commits, he thinks it's up to him to sort it out by killing him. if he goes off without killing him at the end calling him "Darth", it's because after what Vader said, he no longer sees Vader and Anakin as one and the same person and therefore no longer considers it his duty to kill him. so before the end of the fight, he was still blaming himself

To me it showed that a little moment of compassion that was left that he freed Obi-Wan of his guilt, that the kindess of Anakin was still there. The Anakin that would turn on the emperor was always there.

I totally agree. I interpreted both as well. Most people tend to focus on the compassion side, but I see the ambiguity in it. Great writinf

Gotta go with the first choice since Anakin absolutely hates Obi-Wan, almost as much as himself.

I don't think Anakin showed any compassion, Obi-wan in episode 4 was certain his good side was dead because of the full scene here. In that way, Luke was the only one that had hope for his father. Beautiful writting

yes. best sentence of the series by far. seeing obi wan cry made it even more powerful

Ugh it broke me.

He's a psycho

You're getting banned

Definitely. My mom introduced me to Star Wars when I was 7. I read every EU book, and wore out all the VHS tapes several times over. When they re-released the OG in theatres before the prequels my mom and I went. She insisted. "You HAVE to see the Star Destroyer going across the the big screen!" We ended up seeing each re-release 3 times over. Unfortunately she ended up getting cancer before The Mandalorian and this. She never got to see Luke come back. She never got to see this. Anyone else like her, I'm so sorry. I wish you were all still here. This was so awesome.

@@OptionalOG I'm sorry for your loss

Lmao i die laughing watching it fly away. You know that pillar is multi tons lol.

But i think this battle its good but it doesnt have that fluent moves of the first battle in mustafar i mean there they were like faster v: and with more sword moves 😅😅

​@@lightningblade3352I mean that's because he's literally half a person now

@@ianfincher8501arguably even less than half.

​​​@@lightningblade3352 I believe because Vader promised Obiwan he would be allowed to feel the same pain he did and Vader allowed Obiwan to experience that before freeing him and showing him a way out. He did not want to kill him, he wanted to make him suffer and to show him the high ground by revealing Obiwans own weakness the result did not matter Darth Vader won and proved his superiority over not just Obiwan but the entre Jedi order. In the end Vader symbolically recreated the scene after the dual on Mustafar only switched places where a sith Anakin offered his hand to save Obiwan upping him on the moral ground Darth Vader as an enforcer of the Empire will not kill Obiwan just for being a ignorant Jedi and if necessary will even educate him to give him a chance to correct himself and repent something Obiwan never gived Anakin it was his victory in his mind Darth Vader proved himself a better master than Obiwan that was Vaders revenge.

He who remains indeed

there is no regret. He closed off all paths of return. Regret will make him weak.

@@ceshmate1953 yes and no. Vader is a complicated character. He isent inherently evil. Vader is just of the belief that he now lies in the bed of his choices.

@@ceshmate1953 - It's like a vulnerable narcissist...they WANT love...they WANT to do right, but they can't help themselves because they are too weak to do anything about it. It's just so sad, but it's their choice. Emotional scene.

@@Stuff7164 past the point of no return, even if he truly wanted to return to his former self could he even fathom that? Anakin has slaughtered A LOT of innocent people for his personal gain, no one could possibly forgive themselves for all that

The series made Ben Kenobi's parts in A New Hope even more powerful.

He never was lying, anakin was dead from the start ever since order 66 he only came back at the end of return of the jedi

@@gamerbeast4682 It's why Ahsoka could sense the "death" of Anakin, once "I will do whatever you a--ask..." was said to Papatine it was at that moment Skywalker was dead and Vader was in charge.

They spent this entire series (and millions of dollars) reconciling that line from Episode IV in order to justify a duel that never happened. It still makes no sense, but it satisfies the lowest denominator.

People doesn't understand it is not Vader vs Obi-Wan. It is Vader vs Obi-Wan and Anakin. In the end Anakin killed Vader.

Vader was definitely strong enough to defeat Palpatine. That's why Palpatine added in a weakness to force lighting in his suit. Palpatine knew how the sith worked and understood that someday Vader would be coming to take his place

And also switching to a two handed grip rather than his idgaf one handed approach from when he fights weaker opponents. The little flex of the hand on the grip to draw attention shows it's intentional by the makers

@@PaladinThizznope Vader was at most 80% of Sidious per Lucas, have a chance at beating him yes, but only a small chance

@@adambrown1653for sure, Vader was shitting his space diaper this whole scene lol

​@@BattlestarZenobia he had immense potential to one day surpass Sidious though.

Kill me

This scene is plenty of symbolisms... 😍

Picture had Mad max 2 the road warrior did this with Max seeing to his shock and horror that his old friend Goose became Lord Humungus and Max regaining a bit of his oldself saying he was sorry to his old friend seeing the monster he has now become

Anakin was always conflicted when he became Vader the emperor always have absolute power over him but it was Luke that finally brought him back to the light side of the force when Vader sacrifice himself to save his own son and daughter

*Sees Obi wans Guilt* "I am not 'your' failure, Obi Wan." Maan that really hit the feels. As if Anakins instinct overtook, his own guilt, his own failure, and his old care for his Master, just for a moment to offer comfort, But then Darth realises he is a Sith now, and allowes his darker feelings to take over, so as to maintain his force presence in the dark, and continue being on the Emperor's side without the Emperor turning on him.

The way the mask comes back in ‘what remains’ sells the fact that Vader is deeply saddened by everything that’s happened

It’s a show not a movie

@@lazy640 I believe the point was, out of all Star Wars media, this tops the list.

I absolutely thought the same, It's the most profound scene in all of Star Wars cinema to date!

Yes ))) mine too...

James Earl Jones had no part in this, they used AI (with permission) for the voice

@@sushicakez really??

@@LovesandCuddlesyes, he’s getting up there in age after all, maybe he felt like he couldn’t do it justice. Regardless, they use AI to emulate his voice to near-perfection, and will continue to whenever Vader appears in more content

@@sushicakezIt’s still not clear if Vader’s voice was still Jones with the AI used for post processing, Hayden’s voice made to sound like Jones’ with the AI or simply text to speech.

Yep🤔 It makes the once enigmatic: "Only a master of evil...Darth." spoken by Sir Alec Guinness in ANH & Ewan MacGregor's: "Goodbye...Darth." in this even MORE EPIC to Star Wars nerd-fans who've literally celebrated TWO "Aki-Aki Festivals" by this time (check that tidbit of nerddom reference out when you can...if you don't already know😉🤓) I am sure (at my age of 51) that I won't see the 3rd "Aki-Aki Festival"...as they only occur every 43 years🤔😉🤓 Here's a hint: May 1977 (ANH) May 2020 (RoS) I'm just a Star Wars fan trying to find the "good" in the story; despite the decades-long negativity, fan bickering & disastrous writing that has nearly destroyed a sci-fi fantasy faster than a single blast from the Death Star🤔👆

It's a great fight. My only problems with it are 1. It's a bit too dark and the map itself isn't that interesting. And 2. It made Vader look a little too weak and Kenobi look a little stupid for letting him live twice, even after knowing what things Vader has done n' will do if he continues living, and by this point he no longer sees Vader as Anakin. Obi-Wan should have taken a swing to finish Vader off after their conversation, only for Vader to nuke the entire area with the force or something.

It’s sad because, at this point in his life, he’s more machine than man, both physically and emotionally. What was left of Anakin is nearly completely destroyed, leaving behind an empty shell that might as well be full of just rage, pain, and suffering for all the good the human part is.

​@@tronovonflidder775exact issues I have with it, an amazing part still of course but those 2 things ruin it a little. I agree it should of ended different with maybe them both getting hurt and having to flee or destruction separating them. After the speach they go at it again with vader unleashing his rage that overwhelms obi and they get separated in the destruction.

Kenobi should have been a movie! Star Wars belongs in the big screen.

@@tronovonflidder775Even though he says his friend is dead he feels he has responsibility for anakin and killing him is hard and not so easy

They're not old.

The clone wars really developed the characters into something that grand. So you can thank Dave filoni for that

Facts 👊🏾

@@dt3583 Who said they were?

I can’t believe it’s been 17 years, holy shit I feel fckin old

100%

They kinda missed the opportunity to make that line be completely in the suit voice, or maybe not doing that was intentional.

@@GROENAASMusichopefully intentional because as we see from return of the Jedi, Vader never really got rid of Anakin!

That's when you know the real Anakin Skywalker is dead.

Yeah I like it that the air he uses to scream, is much needed in his body, now that he can barely breath, yet he screams and nearly collapses. The dark side fuels him, and he ignores it, but his body can only do so much.

Virgin "NOOOOOOO" vs chad "OOBI-WAAN"

So much there. It's not just the anger, but the fear, the abandonment of little Anakin. Deeply powerful scene. But, I'm sure the bros will whine about it because reasons.

At least he didn't say KENOBIIIIIIII.

The way you wrote this reminded me of Silmarillion. Lammoth region in middle earth long before the war of the ring.

There is no underneath. He always wanted to be powerful and do what he wants because of his childhood as a slave. He was always angry and hateful because of that. To his credit he held it in due to Jedi training, but he always felt like that.

@@northhighofficial9961 Palpatine didn't do it either. Palpatine only whispered Anakin's own evil desires to him.

@@ConsiderTheCrows Because this is how manipulation works IRL. You can't make people wish what you want them to do, unless you have Hitler-tier charisma. To manipulate, you must make people think that they act for their own profit. Palpatine merely offered what Anakin craved: hope for Padme's survival, acceptance for his anger, power.

​@@ConsiderTheCrowswhen you're manipulating someone like that, you have to make them believe that what you want and what they want are in some way linked, and helping you achieve what you want is how to succeed with their own desires. In palpatines case, he drove anakin to destroy everything he cared for, making him believe it was the right thing to do

That's what made him angry, the fact he was a sad broken man, mutilated, losing his love, all that fueled his rage.

I just like to imagine that we only saw Vader in the original trilogy holding himself back when it was against Luke because he was his son.

@@tyleroreilly1004 well both him and obi wan did next to nothing in their last fight. They are just old I guess

But i think this battle its good but it doesnt have that fluent moves of the first battle in mustafar i mean there they were like faster v: and with more sword moves 😅

​@@lightningblade3352neither Lucas' terrible direction of actors and dialogue

The show sucked, especially the fight. Just more Kenobi wankfest.

even though in the prequels they were never friends we just get told they are we never see them bond or get to see there friendship grow at all

But i think this battle its good but it doesnt have that fluent moves of the first battle in mustafar i mean there they were like faster v: and with more sword moves 😅😅

​​@@lightningblade3352 Both of them were in their prime on Mustafar Now they are older, slower and more cautious. Vader is fighting way more cautiously than when he fights anyone else because he knows that Obi Wan is the only one in the galaxy that knows his next move, and one small mistake could mean he would lose to Obi Wan, AGAIN.

“Only a master of evil, Darth”

It could thirdly be interpreted as “I’m not Anakin, I’m not your failed Padawan”

@@brandonm5130 yes! Love this too! These characters are so complex and their dialogue should be this layered.

Or it could be "I didn't become this because of you."

@@ryanfluck1648 Actually, In earlier dialogue between Darth Vader and Obi-Wan. Obi-Wan asks Vader " What have you become? " And Vader replies with this. " I am what you made me! " So there is Great Anger, resentment and rage towards Obi-Wan. Even before Anakin became Darth Vader, he's always saying things like, " It's all Obi-Wans fault! He's holding me back! "

I agree with you. It even seems (or maybe I'm wrong) that there is a tear going down Anakin' s cheek, while saying '' I am not your failure Obi-Wan''.

too bad the fight is awful

​@@thomasrossiter1813compared to what? The Mustafar fight? That was twirly CGI trash. This fight at least looks like a plausible duel.

​@@Henchman34you're really gonna go after the mustafar fight? 💀

@@TimothyGod absolutely! They were fighting on droids over lava!

@@Henchman34 it was awesome. And well choreographed

Beautifully put. The scene actually brings tears to my eyes. Very powerful.

In a lot of ways, Anakin's actions are justified, as Obi-Wan hardly gave him what he needed. I am not saying he is completely blameless. But Obi-Wan and the members of the Council did not fully trust him as they were blinded by their arrogance and overreliance on adhering to their precious Jedi Code. Palpatine knew how they operated and used that against them. Had they freed Shmi in time from Tatooine and allowed for attachments, then things could have been much different. Anakin loved Padme more than anything in the world and would have done anything for her. Even after she died giving birth, he still loved her and longed to be with her. It's clear that this video shows that even though Anakin became Darth Vader, there was still good in him. He only uses the dark side to cover his pain and misery.

@@brandonhesselberg920not only that they abducted him from his mother and began to train him to suppress his emotions as a member of the Jedi Cult from a very young age, honestly they should have let him grow up much older before taking him from his mom cause it honestly seems like the Jedi turned him into the space swordfighting version homelander from the boys.

Vader calling for Obiwan isn't a cry for help it's a shriek of the devil, Vader is acting out Obiwans fears so that Obiwan can surpass them he is literally Obiwans boogieman and Obiwans obstacle and Obiwan needs to let go, Darth Vader is giving Obiwan a lesson in the same way he was taught by Palpatine and this is what Darth Vader was refering to in New Hope this is when in his own twisted way Darth Vader was a master to Obiwan

Obi-Wan should have killed him this time

Such a painful thing to say to your former friend. That this third person is no longer there. Terrifying to see a lost soul so broken into many pieces like shards, leaving more pain for anyone who try to go near it to fix it.

If anything, he shows more emotion as Vader than he ever did as Anakin. It’s the same kind, to a degree, but where Anakin was concerned for his wife and tormented by his opposing feelings concerning who he was, with the beginnings of blind rage and paranoia, All there is to Vader is the blind rage, extreme paranoia, self-hatred and all consuming anger. There is nothing left of Obi Wan’s bruh/padawan. All he has now is hate.

Beautiful and eloquent description bravo

He accepted who he was in this scene!! He hated the fact that he did but only Darth Vader remains after this. Hatred is Vader! Always!

Thank you! I’m glad you liked my performance!

If you look closely, the blue washes across Obi-Wan's face and then fades, representing how he had finalized realized and accepted the truth of how it wasn't his fault, and where he was finally able to let it go. That's why he moments later said, "Then my friend is truly dead", and "Goodbye, DARTH" (not "Anakin"). You never see the blue in Obi-Wan's face appear again after that. He literally at that moment, realized in his soul, that Anakin was gone forever. What an absolutely brilliant scene.

To me it feels more like mocking kenobi, i was here the whole time and you didn't notice. And that is why he smiled while he said it to mock him even more.

@@FBramme that's certainly one way to interpret it. i could see either working,

The lighting is key for the tone and themes expressed.

@@FBramme I just thought it was a strange line. It can’t be mocking because it’s a truthful line. He ruined himself in his pursuit of selfish endeavors. Sure he was HEAVILY manipulated, even his existence was manipulated (Palpatine creating him with the force), but he did make some personal choices that led to his downfall. He can’t possibly blame Obi-Wan. He slaughtered children and the entire jedi order, Obi-Wan had a duty. It’s a strange line to me because it removes some burden from Obi-Wan and that’s not something Darth Vader would’ve done after snapping kids necks to get to him. That line was PURELY put in there to fix the horribly mismanaged plot of A New Hope. Remember how Ben Kenobi told Luke that Vader killed his father Anakin? George Lucas didn’t decide they were the same person until Episode 5. They legitimately were separate people at some point and that’s why Obi-Wan meeting Vader in A New Hope doesn’t feel like the relationship we come to expect. It’s also a way to fix the issue that Lucas created with the “Darth” title. A lot of Sith Lords had Darth as a title. But in A New Hope, Obi-Wan refers to Vader as “Darth”. As if it’s his actual name. Which Lucas most likely meant for it to be. Darth Sidious was only ‘The Emperor’ at the time. So the line Vader says in the show is a good way for them to acknowledge Anakin is gone and dead to Obi-Wan and that Vader is an entirely different person. It’s still weird for him to call him ‘Darth’ but it’s the best that Disney can do to fix the convoluted OT plot.

On a side note, I think the transition between the prequel characters and OT characters is mostly due to the actors abilities to mesh the personalities of their older versions and younger versions. Right now they’re both a mix of their prequel and OT selves. You can see a lot of the way that Ben kenobi’s actor acted in the way Ewan portrays him, but you can also see a lot of Ewans younger Obi-Wan. Same with Anakin. He still talks and acts like Anakin in some regard but he’s also more "civilized" evil like Vader was in the OT.

That is why in rotj obi wan told luke that he is more machine than man.

Yeah but he is way more powerful in the force so even with his suite he could kill every Jedi only with his force if he want's to but because of his Jedi origins he is still fighting with his sword.

@@kuessebrama Even Palpatine carries his lightsaber with him. Being a sith doesn't change anything. In the legends, Darth Bane said that while establishing the new sith system, a sith should be the best in one-on-one combat, no matter how strong, that is the real power. Being a good duelist is much more important to the sith than to the jedi.

No way man. “I am not your failure” Now that is powerful shit right there.

My favorite too! It sticks with me for days every time I watch their fight

They just took it from Star Wars rebels

Only master of evil Darth….

It's like poetry, it rhymes! I loved it.

I KNEW that in the final episode he would call him "Darth" 🤣 To explain why he called him "Darth" instead of "Vader" in Episode IV.

This explains why he never though of Vader as Anakin in a New Hope.

Didn’t Vader die in rotj

i sprang up, while i sat in my bed, ever closer to my screen with my hand on my mouth when that point happened. my god I thought....heartbreaking... :(

“Darth Vader was not a villain, he was a victim.” -George Lucas I do not know the authenticity of the quote, but it perfectly fits here.

Also how much the Dark side can destroy the body and mind.

You can hear he was gasping for breath after the first force push.

"The Dark Side is a disease no true Sith would wish to be cured of" - Darth Plagueis

Leia did a great job.

@@BeardAxeMcAxeBeard and what would that be?

@@barzoly acting

Honestly when I first saw this show, I really liked it...but that was months ago and i've forgotten a lot about it b/c it wasn't really that memorable Aside from this scene, and also the final scene when he says goodbye to Leia. Those are two of the best scenes in the entire show

Fr if someone asked me if they should watch it I’d literally tell them to just watch the last episode

This show beat all Kyle Ren’s movies lol that rise of skywalker movie was pathetic

the purpose of the entire show was this scene and a little bit of backstory

True.

wasn t the last...but almost

Ya I took that sentence about “you didn’t kill anakin” to be his one last olive branch to obi wan. Like “ you don’t need fo feel guilt old friend it’s not your fault (his face is blue for this part) Buuuuuut I’m still gonna murder ya (now his face is red again)

@Christopher Braxton I concur…remember Vader doesn’t know Padme gave birth before dying. Luke said the same line, “then my father is truly dead”, in ROTJ. You could tell that hurt Vader even through the mask. Vader committed atrocities to save his wife and children. He was power hungry, as well. However IMO, nothing would’ve mattered more than Padme and his children.

Emotional manipulation and you fell for it, succcccahhhhh!

@Christopher Braxton Exactly! He was always a tragic character! We didn't see it in every movie or TV show, but he was always struggling with himself and his definition of what was good or evil was extremely blurred! He was looking for a chance to kill the Emperor for what happened in his life!

I'm not so sure. I feel like both are alot weaker than when they fought on Mustafar. Perhaps Vader is stronger in the force now, but he lost like 80% of his lightsaber skills. And Obi Wan is far older and slower.

​@@ChefofWar33no they are stronger vader lost potential he is definitely stronger than he was at mustafar and about obi wan hes also stronger

@@sasukewithamoustache2300 Bs. Who says?

"It's over, Obi-Wan! I have the high ground!" "You under-estimate my love!" "Don't try it..." "Nyaaaahhh! *rocks*"

It was too predictable, didn't surprise me at all

@@filippomonaco2303 oh we got a bad ass over here😂😂

@@aero2507 well it is a predictable line, it is since the beginning of the saga they go on with the "Darth vader killed your father" etc.

@@filippomonaco2303 It wasn't supposed to be surprising. It hits because of how you know it affects Obi Wan (basically seeing your brother and mentee die a second time), and your understanding of where Anakin was as a person prior to his knowledge of Luke being alive.

@@ma76em49 well, we already knew that he hated being called anakin... can I say that I didn't find that impactful and too predictable without being ironically called "bad ass" or be telled (by someone who isn't the director) What the sentence was supposed to be? Or we all must say that we liked it? I don't remember signing that contract

Can you explain the glow part of what you said?

@@loicdemale5417 The light switches between the red lightsaber glow to the blue one of Obi Wans ligtsaber when he says that Obi Wan didn‘t kill him, signifying that Anakin is actually speaking to Obi Wan at that moment just to switch to the dark side again while saying that he (Vader) killed Anakin himself. In that moment the red light can be seen on Anakin‘s face again. It really shows that Anakin still is in there somewhere but gets overpowered with hatred and anger again. It‘s probably one of the few really good scenes of this show.

I thought vader died in rotj?

Danny bruh he did this is 10 years later

@@draidenrobinson8934 This is like 14 years before ROTJ not after. There is 19 years between Revenge of the Sith and A New Hope and this is pretty much in the middle of that 19 year gap. Then there is another maybe 3 yeas from A New Hope until Return of the Jedi. The era in this show is probably the height of Darth Vader's power.

To me it makes Anakin and Vader 2 completely different people. Anakin was always there but in that moment Vader completely took over

100% agree

I agree, this is my favorite scene of anything in the series.

Desperately trying to fix the shittiness of the prequels... with a shitty TV show. Star Wars is such a joke lmao

@@nectarinedreams7208 Don't watch the show and comment on youtube videos about it then lol? Wasting your own time

Bridge to a New Hope

Why does he use the title as if it’s his name? I never understood that even in Episode IV…

@@robertbusek30 I think it has to do something about not acknowledging him as the entity 'Vader' nor Anakin anymore, just, y'know, a Dark Lord of the Sith. Maybe just to see him as the title he has taken. But I might be wrong.

@@PonyLordGaming That makes sense, given the context of the scene. If Anakin is truly dead, Obi-Wan wouldn’t want to use the name that Palpatine gave him either…

@@robertbusek30 because I'm pretty sure Alec Guiness simply thought Darth Vader was thr character's name and the abbreviated "Darth" was his first name. Since A New Hope was simply called Star Wars in 77 lol

You really do wonder if he's angry because obi wan got away or if it's because obi wan didn't put him out of his misery again.

That's what i was thinking

@@skylerthompson8652 Maybe it’s both

Obi-Wan didn’t want to finish him off... it’s not the jedi way. Instead when he saw Anakin is no more, he left a beaten Vader to his eternal struggle of hate and suffering.

That’s what I was thinking that scream out for obi wan sounded like anakin side cry for help finish this

I went from crying to like bawl crying

It's the only good thing to come out of the miniseries. It almost makes up for how badly disney fucked it up.

this miniseries was trash the only good episode was the final one i tell everyone who hasn't seen it yet to just skip to the final 2 episodes and don't bother with the other 4.

Yeah that was moving. I didn't cry, but I was a bit verklempt. Ewan's acting is insane

@@Anthony-rl9do oh wow! You’re so cool! Edgelord!! 🤘 Grow the fuck up

And then to have to literally "walk" (fly) away from his life entirely. The strength it takes to do that, and the resulting growth, is something many people will never experience. If this scene doesn't accurately represent the pain of tough love, I don't know what will.

Arguably THE best moment in Star Wars history (the ending dialog).

Someone in another video pointed out that he delivers the "I did" line in Vader's voice in Portuguese (and also French) in the other versions, cementing Vader's stranglehold on the great man Anakin once was thought to be. There's some merit to both versions, but having that nail in the coffin makes a world of difference in displaying Anakin's transformation to the Sith lord he has become before Obi Wan's eyes, giving him closure on his friend and former apprentice, and paving the way for Luke to take up the fight as Ben ages out of the war.

To me its just Anakin in a costume. Its his own ptsd and refusal to accept who he is. If Anakin could come to terms with himself he would have been powerful enough to beat the emperor. But his denial of him being a monster is what held him back. He blamed everything on “Vader.” But Vader is just him.

This

See the way I see it is Vader can’t pretend that he and Anakin arent the same person around Obi wan. This line comes from “both” because its an admission on Anakin’s part that he is responsible for Vader and that he is Vader. He then embraces Vader fully and denounces Obi Wan a final time.

It kind of has a jekyl and hyde feel to it, where we get to see some humanity of Anakin but also the monstrous part of him that has consumed him!

Vader dispensed with notions of compassion and pity for him. He is not lost or broken. He told Obi Wan that the hate and violence was all him and who he is.

it was a good duel but the directing was way off at points compared to prequel duels

He finally understood what master Yoda said to him years before "the boy you trained, gone is he, consumed by this Darth Vader he has..."

@@ConsiderTheCrows Then you don’t understand Anakin at all. Darth Vader IS broken. That’s LITERALLY how he is portrayed.

@@isiahsaylor1139 No. Anakin was portrayed as conflicted and then fallen. Vader is a merciless Sith Lord, until he finds out about Luke. Only then do conflicting emotions begin to emerge again. Which grows as he is defeated and as he watches Sidious torture Luke and listens to "Father please help me!" He lets go of his hate to save his son and destroy the Dark Lord. When you let go of hate and feel the light of love and compassion, this is a profound inner change.

Speak for yourself

Holy fuck

Until Epsiode 4 when Vader got revenge on Obi Wan

He isn't a slave to the force ,he is a slave to his emotions...Don't forget ,he had visions of his wife dying,which misinterpreted began to instill fear....Palpatine added more and offered to protect Padme. From there Anakin began to protect the emperor to save his wife and family, and during the Windu/Palpatine duel, he made his final decision. Seeing later that this did not save Padmé,despite the sacrifices made, he will sink into anger, against himself, and everyone, and this will devour him until he discovers that he have children.....then he will be able to turn around, and will pay the price. But being at peace when he dies, he will become one with the force, to find Master Yoda, Master Qui Gon and Master Obi Wan..

Where? I didnt see one

​​​@@Lodai974technically he was a slave to the force.. it literally created him.

"I will do what I must." "Then you will die." "I won't leave you. Not this time." "Then you will die." "What if I wanna stop fighting?" "Then you will die."

That rhymes.

It's like poetry..... it rhymes

It does seem like a nice callback to their last duel and the duel between Vader and Ahsoka in Rebels

They are part of the Depeche Mode. Do you wanna hate me, do you wanna love me. Its understood

Grand Inquisitor probably wanted to say "I told you so" after Vader had choice of letting Obi Wan Kenobi go

imperials: Okey vader is injured we better just leave and dont look at him at all, all the robots will finish him until thats done none human or living organ shall enter his presence grand inqusitor: deal...

Vader: We're not gonna talk about this

Vader likely killed every stormtrooper and imperial officer who saw him with the broken mask.

"...I fell down some stairs!"

what series is it

Exactly. The series wasnt perfect but we got what we needed

The show was mediocre most of the time, but if it had anything remarkable that would be this whole clash for sure.

You wanted to see Kenobi defeat Anakin a second time? Doesn't that just make Luke a pointless character? Clearly Obi-Wan has his number, so why wouldn't he just finish him himself? This fight is nonsense, Obi-Wan should have lost and barely escaped, showing exactly how powerful Vader has become.

@@LeonardoAldecocea that would make no sense because in Star Wars a new hope Vader says last time we met I was a learner and you were the master basically saying that obi wan kenobi was better

It retroactively adds such an amazing nuance to so much of the original trilogy, too. A New Hope more so, but through Empire and up to the conclusion of Jedi. It's very clear how much Star Wars means to all those involved; it resonates through the script, the choreography, the music, the lighting and so much more beyond my limited scope as an audience member (compared to those in the industry)

I was just thinking that. The fact that he still called him "master" in the midst of trying to kill him of course, says alot

The show was great at never pitting any inquisitor directly against Obi, I was worried when the show was announced, because they would have to seriously nerf him for the inquisitors not to get absolutely destroyed. This scene proves that as soon as obi wan regained his strength only vader was a sufficient match for him.

@@iamthemetalgod Oh yeah, even 10 years outta shape, outta practice Obi Wan would mop up any of the Inquisitor's in about 5 minutes.... and that's only because Obi Wan's a Form 3 guy, which tends to take some time.

He's mainly saying that because its Obi-Wan and he has a connection lol

Well exactly. But Vader regularly has dialogue that shows him respect, that shows he subconsciously knows his place among the Jedi. Remember sidious wasn't even powerful enough to kill windu, bitch ass Vader had to step in. So you see these two back at it with continuous acknowledgment of each other after 10 years is a marvel.

It really was some stupid shit

yah he showed it more in the ROTS novel when killing the separatists but it wasn’t shown in the movie how sinister he really was.

@@gogetathestrongestfusion Gogeta is the goat.

He probably also had hope anakin was in there due to padme believing there was still good in him

@@gogetathestrongestfusion genuine question why do you think it’s stupid? I think it perfectly shows where Vader is. In revenge of the Sith he hadn’t fully embraced Vader. He was fearful, passionate, still hellbent on protecting padme… and the next time we see his eyes in live action is Return of the Jedi. Obviously no longer dark. We never got to see a fully Sith embraced Vader without his helmet on until this show

And a keen eye can spot some of the same moves in this that they used then. It’s so good.

@@treystroeder5506 yes! That distinctive behind the back move that only Hayden could master is used by Vader in this fight! I literally had to pause it when is saw it! Fantastic!!!

@@jordanellis3615 Obi-wan did the same behind-the-back flourish that Anakin did Vs Obi-wan in ROTS as well.

@@treystroeder5506 damn I must’ve missed it!

@@jordanellis3615 That's bs, first of all, Ewan was also able to do it, and I was able to master it in less than a week, it really isn't that complicated...

Series was okay but I agree this scene is very good

only the last episode was good the rest of it was filler and absolute nonsense...the writers are absolutely trash and need to be called out for there garbage not praised for average TV at best

@@Anthony-rl9do I enjoyed it, the story was linear I didn’t see it as much filler like mandalorian where they have separate side adventures, everything was connected and building up. Plus the acting was great.

@@Flyingskeray yea except there’s no identity politics and it doesn’t ruin any canon. But think what you want, Darth

@@Flyingskeray bro this series was better than any of the originals or remakes lol. Rewatch the movies and you’ll see the same exact shit you’re bashing this series for. This is a kids franchise after all lol

I couldn't agree more.

I hate vader. He's a pos. But that was the only nice thing he's ever done, aside from turning on the emperor at the last minute. He let Obiwan know that Obiwan was NEVER a failure : ) I think it's relatable af honestly. Brings a tear to your eye too. I mean... Who hasn't had someone in their life, that made choices and turned into a bad person as a result? You tried to keep them good, but for whatever reason they became evil. You often blame yourself for their turn to evil but no... You can't do that. In the end we make our own choices... If you try to help a person stay good, and they then become evil, it's NEVER your fault. You tried your best. Obiwan gets to learn that more so than most and it was relieving to see. A burden being lifted. And in the end he finds some happiness. It's all we want for our heros : )

you can also see his eyes go from Haydens to Sith

Cool you watched the video too?

I agree, it’s fantastic visuals. And I love how the blue on Obi-Wan’s face fades away when “Vader” tells him Anakin is dead. Showing that all the hope that Obi-Wan had for Anakin is now lost, he truly realises that Anakin is gone, and there is only Darth Vader.

It also brings to full circle the discussion that Obi Wan gives to Anakin on Utapau in the unfinished Crystal Crisis arc, where he gave anakin advice that was wise but not what he needed - in the duel at the end of Kenobi he finally gives anakin words he had needed - but at a time where it was far too late to change anything.

it always makes me sad because seeing Anakin like that, half man/half machine, Obi-Wan has to directly confront all the regret and grief that must be pouring in all at once. but by the end, he makes the decision to accept that the Anakin he knew was dead

I think the way they actually made everything transpire from start to finish with Anakin and Obi Wan was incredible planning Anakin was stronger than anyone else including Obi Wan, but Obi Wan trained him and knew all his weaknesses, Obi Wan was the ONLY Jedi that could beat Anakin, and that was perfect because he was also the only Jedi that wouldn't kill Anakin when that was clearly what he was supposed to do. He was the only one with the tools to win, but also the only one for whom victory wouldn't mean the prophecy would not come true. Anakin wanted Obi Wan to end his suffering, but for the prophecy to be fulfilled, he had to suffer just a little bit longer, and despite not knowing that, Obi Wan managed to keep it in tact It's actually really poetic how the dynamic between the two unfolded over the course of their story

Good acting

My two favorite lightsaber battles are Obi-wan and Anakin on Mustafar and this one. They are both extremely emotional and heartbreaking. The battles are exciting too. Ewan McGregor and Hayden Christensen are incredible actors, they’ve really given so much depth to their characters. I really believed they loved each other, they were like brothers, just as Obi-wan says. I cried at the end of both battles thanks to Ewan McGregor! My new kitten is named Obi-wan! The more he grows though I’m realizing he should have been named Ani-Vader! He’s either a little sweetie or a psycho.

Speaking of Mustafar, I like how in Rogue One they made the planet more calm and with less lava eruptions, to symbolize Vader's calmer emotions compared to the FURY he had in Revenge of the Sith

You said it so brilliantly

don't forget Vader literally trying to bury Obi-Wan only for Obi to drag himself out of the rubble and pelt him with those same rocks.

However, the bat swings on the rocks... not it

Glad someone liked the environment. I've seen so many people just criticising it saying it looks boring and bland like rocks. Like wtf, since when have people starting criticising the environment in Star Wars. Honestly wgaf, it's such a good environment for this.

Scene would have been completed if “I Did” was in Vader’s voice not Anakins

@@NarasimhaDiyasena omg your right

Idk if he was relieving Obi-Wan of his guilt. In a sense Vader needs to believe he himself killed Anakin. I feel he almost doesn’t want to loose the credit so he “reassures” Obi-Wan that the death of Anakin doesn’t fall on him

@@NarasimhaDiyasena I feel Anakin admitted in that brief moment that he killed himself with his own choices when he said "I did", before Vader came back up again

@@NarasimhaDiyasena not entirely…. It shows how Anakin 100% knows and understands he’s the only one responsible for what he’s become and done. If it was said in vaders voice it wouldn’t have the same effect because we would just see and hear Vader and not catch a glimpse of the internal struggling anakin. In my own humble opinion lol

Obis intention was never to kill anakin

Obi wan never wanted to kill Vader.

For Anakin, it was a mistake. For Obi-Wan, he was never trying to kill Anakin though.

Vader did have the high ground but obi wan still kicked Vader's butt

If you define yourself by the power to take life, the desire to dominate, to possess.... then you have nothing.

I noticed the same on a recent prequel rewatch. Hayden did the work, and he merges the two beautifully here.

EXACTLY. That monotone speech pattern was George Lucas. Lucas even said Hayden played Anakin perfectly. And I agree. With the shitty script, and shitty dialogue. Hayden deserved better.

Totally agree! There's a clip on KZhead where Lucas is directing him in the scene where Anakin tells Padme that his loyalty is with her, and Lucas asks him to do a "turn" specifically between the lines. Man, Lucas was way ahead of us. 😳

@@mistere9099 I like how during the younger Anakin sequences in the show, you can also hear a tiny bit of influence from Matt Lanter in his inflections

@@mercury2157 When he says that he'll destroy Obi-wan, it really does sound a bit like Lanter, and I love it!

why regret?...

@@whistle590 he regret that he cannot save his friend from the dark side.

@@whistle590 because Obi-Wan feels that he failed to guide Anakin properly. Obi-Wan literally feels like he failed to train his closest friend, and even calls him his brother. That aside Obi-Wan feels that he failed to train the person that would bring balance to the force, and therefore peace… he didn’t just fail Anakin, he failed the entire galaxy. Thats why he is so reluctant to take the mission to save Leah, he feels he would just fail, thats why he is reluctant to use the force, and he relies on combat. The moment he saved Leah from falling… he realized his skills are needed, he had to stop giving up. This is some deep shit.

@@88nguyenquangbach91 I feel like nobody is going to read this. This is some powerful shit in my opinion

@@whistle590 he regrets not actually killing his asthmatic ass. Haha

I like how Kenobi is sarcastic and smug through all his fights all the way up to Satine's death. Then, he apologizes for the first time to Bo Katan, guilty that his affair with her sister is what killed her. And it all goes down hill from there. Apologizing to Padme for lying about his suspicions, apologizing to Anakin for faking his death, apologizing to Darth Maul....to Vader....all the way to Luke. All of the guilt on his shoulders is heart wrenching. But it exposes something sinister. As good as Kenobi's intentions are, he is an arrogant cunt, always rushing to indecisive action, fucking up, and making things worse for everyone. Starting with refusing to believe Count Dooku after hunting for the truth for months, and finally, after almost getting to the bottom of it, he decides the only Jedi on the inside is just plain evil, solely because they have different ideologies.

Obi wan despite being an old man as Vader had said put up the ultimate fight and Vader wasn't being able to outwit him. Y did he hv to sacrifice himself like that to a noble man turned disillusioned psycho. He shd hv lived to guide Luke and Leia against the evil forces. His sacrifice was too sad. Remember how Obi wan outsmarted and decisively defeated Anakin back in their earlier days in the prequel film. Anakin wd hv died had that evil Palpatine not arrived to save his apprentice. I don't know y Obi wan sacrificed himself like that. He knew how disheartened Luke wd get after seeing that, that's exactly what happened

@@iamblight707 I used to love Obi-Wan in episodes 1 and 2, but 3 made him so hateable because of how poorly he raised Anakin and never valued him.

SCENE IS WEAK because Obi Wan could have killed Vader & saved millions of lives. Walking-away makes Obi-wan a collaborator with the Empire .

9:48 OBI WAN!!

When he destroyed General Grievous: So uncivilized. When he cut off Anakin's limbs and he was burned alive: You were the chose one!!! It was said you would destroy the Sith not join them!!! Bring balance to the force, not leave it in darkness!!! When he saw Darth Vader's crippled face: I'm sorry Anakin. For all of it.

Yeah and Ewan McGregor always does such a masterful job at conveying Obi Wan's crushing emotions. You can tell he really respects and loves the character.

They did it perfectly with Anakin's voice saying "Anakin is gone" then switching to Vader for "I am what remains". I only wish it switched to Vader's voice after he says "you didn't kill Anakin Skywalker". Hearing that "I did" in JEJ's voice would have been absolutely incredible

Bring on the Kenobi pirate cut 90-120 minute movie! Cut the crap. Anyone out there with some skills?

@@andrewhill203 clearly not you

@@andrewhill203 Thinking the same thing!

But was he the one who really needed redeeming? Between his “brother” and the rest of the Jedi council handed him to the dark side on a sliver platter.

The way he delivered those lines was so awesome. Mcgregor literally carried this entire series, a lot of the other actors really struggled in this show and it was painfully obvious.

Ya that was a gut punch to the feels when he said it.

Totally wrecked me 😢, as a kid growing up watching anakin grow from episode 1, and all the memories of myself growing up with the prequel made this scene so hard and sad :(, they have been through SO much together

@@user-SubvurzIV Hayden too he did a fine job its the others that were meh

It's heartbreaking how Obi feels responsible for all the horrible things that happened to Anakin