⭐️ 1 Fact for EVERY Villain in Pokemon! • 1 Fact for EVERY Villa...
Have you ever wondered what might have happened if the villains succeeded in their plans in the Pokemon games? Well, in this video I go over just that! Starting with Team Rocket and ending with Team Stars, here is what would happen if the villains won!
00:00 Intro
00:11 Team Rocket
02:36 Team Neo Rocket
03:52 Team Aqua & Magma
05:54 Team Galactic
08:02 Team Plasma
09:40 Team Flare
10:50 Team Skull, The Aether Foundation & Team Rainbow Rocket
12:24 Team Yell & Chairman Rose
13:52 Volo
15:06 Team Star & Professor Sada + Turo
16:13 Outro
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And then Team Rainbow Rocket happened
Geovanni: We shall rule this region! Player: Don’t you already rule Kanto & Johto? Geovanni: Yes! But this will be our third region! Player: Can’t argue with that.
Giovanni doesn't get team skull,yell cause they aren't good evill
@@sahuanitasahu7696 or maybe because they didn't exist at that time -🤓
@@sahuanitasahu7696 team yell isn't even a villain team lol why you mentioning their name
@@Airkong423 i know but they are on the list
Fun fact: Due to either censorship or mistranslation, in the german dub of the anime, Team Magma's plan was actually to only expand the amount of land a bit as opposed to drying up all water. Team Aqua however still wanted to flood the world though "for the good of all Pokémon" (despite wiping out most Pokémon in the process.)
Mmmm interesting. In Spain Magma's plot was also expanding the land.
Lebensraum can be a touchy subject
Never watched the hoenn saga from the anime
Honestly, that seems like a way better plan than drying up all water
I always thought Magma's plan was to create land connecting the other islands, and drying up most of the ocean was going to be the solution
You forgot about Sordward and Shielbert. If they succeeded in their plan, they would be kings of Galar, and I’d hate to live in a region under their rule. Also, Zacian and Zamazenta would no longer be heroes, but terrifying beasts. The brothers would probably abuse their power to get in control
I’ve tried to forget about them.
@@matthewmatthew8941 I thought they had a pretty good concept, just executed poorly. We already have nihilistic and grim villains like Cyrus, Lysandre and Ghetsis, so I think it’s nice to have jerk villains like Sordward and Shielbert. I just wish they spent more time working on SwSh’s story, the brothers could’ve had great potential as villains The idea of snooty guys with awful hairdos in control of Galar’s true heroes is actually kind of a cool concept for Pokémon villains imo
@@amiiboguy7288 They were good in concept, but poorly executed. Just like the rest of Sword and Shield.
@@user-kf6ye2sx3x If SwSh gets remakes or sequels that fix its mistakes, I’d be so happy
@@amiiboguy7288 I think it’s the weird chasing them around or what ever it was I had to do to beat their story is what I mainly try to forget. But I do like that Pokémon has so many different types of bad guys.
Let's be honest, Team Rocket is looking like a more understanding group than KZhead is recently
I mean, one thing you can say about them is that they're honest about what they want, which is more than can be said about most modern corporations who lie and gaslight their customers on seemingly a weekly basis.
@@theapexsurvivor9538 we realize that these creatures are powerful and that we can make big money off of them so obviously we're gonna try to do that
Its weird that everybody calls Giratina evil and conventional forgetting that it stopped Cyrus of its own free will
Didn't you mean Cyrus?
@@vlalcremie002 fair point
Nah Giratina is evil, it tried to do the exact same thing Cyrus did 200 years prior.
In Legends Arceus, Giratina’s definitely evil but it seems reformer several centuries after that with how it stops Cyrus though maybe that was fueled by survival and nothing else, who knows
@@agatha6999 The irony is Giratina, Cyrus, and Volo are all more alike than not.
Team Skull's goal wasn't just "get rich". They wanted to get rid of the Island Challenge and basically destroy all of Alola's Culture And given that the Tapus are responsible for entrusting Kahunas, Captains, and Z-crystals, the Island Deities would likely be killed. The combination of the consequences of Team Skull winning would basically make all of Alola just like Po Town. Feel free to expand on my idea here.
So, they would make alolan healthcare into american healthcare?
In my opinion, even without the protagonist they wouldn't have gotten far, at one point they would be like "we did it" but they only managed to steal that bus stop. Because I belive like team yell they have limits because of their "low" power
As much as I love the hoenn villains, they really did not think through their plans. I guess they assumed they could control the legendries so precisely that they can just avoid all of the destruction and magic the world the way they wanted. You gotta love dumb villains, at least they learned their lesson haha
Honestly I like how they help you unfuck the situation in ORAS
They really really didn't think it through
Fun fact: Ghetsis's team at the end could nearly perfectly counter the pokemon N had at his last fight. And seeing how Ghetsis is the only person in Pokemon who will result to murder, it's quite possible Ghetsis planned to eventually kill N and take his legendary, which his alternate version probably did as shown in Pokemon Ultra Sun/Moon.
Team Galactic and Flare were definitely the most dangerous
Also Plasma imo.
@@ChaoticJester Liberation is cool but what is stopping the trainers from catching their pokemon instantly after releasing them
@@theamazingspooderman2697 team plasma is seen hacking pokemon pc's which wouldn't stop people from recapturing But it does prevent people from having more than 6 Also reshiram and zeckrom could canonically just kill destroy unova Which is a pretty good threat to discourage such behaviour
@@theamazingspooderman2697 Team Neo Plasmas Ghetsis wasn't afraid to kill people, almost freezing the protagonist just to prove it.
Not Volo? he's straight up evil while Cyrus is jus whatever. And Lysandre doesn't have the power to end the multiverse on his side
Team plasma and team rocket would basically have a never ending war.
Oh THAT would be cool.
Team Plasma would DESTROY Team Rocket.
Considering the aftermath of the "1000 year war" we heard about in X and Y, I wonder what "Ultimate Weapon 2.0" would be constructed by Team Plasma and the effects it would have (aside from mass destruction)
@@kinglyzebra6417I unironically see Ghetsis firing the weapon like a madman
@@John-StarkImagine that weapon, powered by Yveltal/Xerneas and Zekrom/Reshiram, used by Ghetsis, that would be neat
What's ridiculous is if Rose had just called his little brother and asked him what he's up to, he would've learned about Regileki and Regidrago, two immortal golems literally made of energy who just love sitting in caves and emitting huge amounts of power, perfect for solving that energy crisis 1000 years in the future he was so worried about. But no. He just had to piss off Peony and cut all contact. Freaking dumbass.
Worst part, it's not like Rose couldnt investigate better
Family problems are complicated. The conflict was two sided where Peony was also jealous and resentful of the praise and attention Rose got from their parents and everyone. Peony was so resentful that when he learned Rose became the League’s chairman, he quit being a champion right away and packed up and left. Peony could easily just not pick up the phone.
I mean his an idiot what more can you expect from him XD
The point of Rose was gamefreak making fun of climate alarmism in Europe. Essentially, Rose has so little faith in humanity that he wants to solve an issue that may not actually be an issue when the time comes. He didn’t think humanity would be able to progress and evolve in that massive amount of time.
@@elderliddle2733 I feel like his motive would have been easily fixed if his logic is that an increasing population will mean more energy being used and energy being used faster, which is logical, because if there’s more people, there’s more people who need to use energy. Another easy fix would be that the region really relies on energy and suddenly losing all their energy would be catastrophic.
Giratina probably didn’t mind Volo because he didn’t want to straight up delete the universes like Cyrus did.
That and since the character in Legends is the same one from D/P/P, Giratina remembers you kicked it's ass 200 years ago.
Honestly, if we could get a spin-off where team plasma succeeds and the player joined a rebel group fighting to survive against Ghetsis and the rest of the team( as Ghetsis didn’t necessarily want to be the only person with Pokémon, he wanted team Plasma to have a Pokémon monopoly) would be very interesting
Ooo, that could be a fun concept for a Unova Legends game! Everyone lost their Pokemon, and now you need to go around catching all sorts of Pokemon to build up a team to defeat Team Plasma and liberate Unova!
@@pinkie723 man thats so hype
Ok this needs to be a fan made game or a rom hack like yesterday!! I am legitimately surprised it doesn’t already exist.
Sounds fun. You could even rent out your pokemon to other rebels instead of just having them all in a box. Could frame it after years where most professors are captured and so knowledge on catching and training pokemon needs to be rediscovered.
@@pinkie723 any fakemon creators out their, this mans got ideas
Plasma also failed to take something else in to consideration Some trainers treat their Pokemon so well the Pokemon consider them friends and would willingly fight for them. Example: Let's say Ash was in the games and released all of his Pokemon, but then wanted to fight N. I have no doubt in my mind Pikachu, Charizard, Pigeot and Butterfree would WILLINGLY fight alongside Ash despite not being his Pokemon any more
also greninja
Plus all the other motivations pokemon might have for working with a human. It's blatantly obvious that they get a _lot_ more out of it than just good company. I'd fully expect a large portion of them to react quite literally: "oh, I'm free, okay... so what's for dinner?"
Also like all of the trainers with friendship evolutions, do I need to say more?
They're fanatics, they probably assume that anyone who opposes them are inherently evil. Either that, or they simply don't think that things could possibly NOT go the way they expect them to in their heads.
They'd probably assume the Pokemon were hopelessly brainwashed by their trainers if they STILL stuck with them after being released, and thus move in to euthanize them or something. @@CantusTropus
I like how every scenario is "this is what WOULD have happened" and then is team Aqua/Magma: - They succeed and the legendary awakens. Then Rayquaza, a pokemon they didn't even know existed, stops it ans that's it, end of the journey. - IF Rayquaza is not there, they die like in the animated series Generations. - IF they control the Pokémon, they break the natural balance and destrot the world, so team Aqua kills all pokemon (and fails) or team Magma errases all the land and make the planet uninhabitable (and fails). There is literally no scenario where they do what they want and make even the slightest profit out of it lmao
That's why they are my favorite vilains, the whole plan is just so stupid it's good And compared to most recent vilains they actually feel like bad guys you have to stop, after team flare there has been no actual team worth fighting (although the aether Fondation was a nice change which i liked)
Except Lysander, he straight up just fires the ultimate weapon and kills everyone, no ifs, no would’ve’s, no nothing, just fired and new world
Also “Those who refuse to release their Pokemon get struck down.” Im looking at you ash and your companions.
Imagine a pokemon game in a region ruled by the evil team. You play as the male/female protagonist as always and at the endgame, you beat the villain with the help of the gym leader and other character to free the region. This could be sick.
I'm making a romhack where Team Magma seizes power in Hoenn and it's up to you and Team Aqua to stop them before they destroy the world. So it's kinda like what you described.
or it would be more sick if we could play as the villian not including the hack lol
From a technical sense, that is the idea in Pokemon Colosseum, so much of the Orre Region is already under the thumb of Cipher from top to bottom.
I could see that as the alternative timeline where team plasma and Ghetsis succeeded as was hinted at pokemon ultra sun and moon.
@@HighPriestFuneral Cipher influence and financial backing, that we know of, was 1. Enough fund research to create shadow Pokémon. 2. Control and ownership of the battle arenas as well as construction of a faint collusuem. 3. Has ties to control the local office of government.(or in their case their case put one of their own high ranks there) 4. Hiring another team to do their dirty work. 5. Enough funds to literally acquire legendaries. 6. After being thwarted once, being able to return later 10 years later and not only doing most of it all again, but also improving.
I could imagine a side entry where you play as the grunt of the evil team, only for a plot twist to be that the supposed player character would be the true mastermind and you would end up saving the world (and possibly being hailed as a hero)
That's basically a Pokemon Fire Red ROM hack where red is actually a parasite and Your a team rocket grunt
Pokémon team rocket edition
That was actually the original plot of pokemon coliseum and XD.
I mean that isn't all that far off from Arceus? Being a member of the galaxy team which becomes team galactic in the future and commander Kamado keeps thinking the player is causing the bad things so they can fix them and become the hero. I mean he's obviously wrong, but that's not too far off from your idea haha
Rocket edition
Would really love a future Pokémon game to revolve around the villains winning and achieving their goals. A Team Rocket Kanto/Johto would be a dream for me!
rainbow rocket basically
Episode RR in a nutshell.
Maybe pokemon neo ghetsis is a fun fakemon region series for you to watch!
ME TOO I love Giovanni so I’d love to see that :3
theres a rom hack about the team rocket thing thats fairly popular thats kinda like that
anyone else realize that scarlet and violet are the first games to start the game with a dead professor
The only
well it is also first game with having different professors which exclusive version you are playing
@@koundy2004 yes that too lol i miss the format of unova and kalos where there are ranks of evil teams and awesome battle styles (instead of solely 1 on 1) unova is probably my favorite :)
Also the first game where the professor is evil
@@MariOmor1 they were evil? i thought they were just stupid and accidentally released hell spawn pokemon
In a way, Cyrus found an alternative when he gets Darkrai in Masters EX, plunging himself and everyone in the Pasio region into a deep, emotionless sleep whit Darkrais power Took the majority of the sinnoh cast to stop him
Problem with Team Star is they were successful in driving off the bullies, but then became the bullies and luring off students from the school. The Director was about to expell all of them. They got too big and too aggressive, even after they accomplished their goals which also got almost the entire previous staff of the school fired/quit.
So they became the very thing they swore to destroy
@yeetuszilla1663 correct. SPOLIER WARNING!! The boss who started it realized their mistake and helps you take them down. They all realize it in the end.
Being fair to Ghetsis He wanted to be King of Unova first, then the world, and nobody would get to "re-catch" their pokémon because Team Plasma who's loyal to him would catch them first ensuring his rule We also seen that he turned Kyurem into a flying nuke cannon in BW2 so he most likely would have done that with Reshiram/Zekrom, his team also made Genesect into a Mewtwo-level threat and in BW you can also get the orbs for the Sinnoh Dragon Trio from his Shadow Triad PLUS the Master Ball Indicating that once he had Reshiram/Zekrom and was King of Unova he'd go after them in order to catch them with a master ball and use them to conquer the world with an army of "Genesectized" pokémon And unlike with Cyrus, there would be no reason for either Giratina nor Arceus to interfer since he didnt intend to destroy the world he intended to rule, getting to essencially rule forever as long he avoided pissing off the literal God
Arceus never gets off its ass to do its own dirty work and fix the world. So I wouldn’t count on it stopping Cyrus.
@@irondragondxd3836 Oh, there was a space-time rupture in the past? Ehh send in some 14 year old and I'll call it a day
Many people forgot about this, but Team Plasma was also after Victini, the Victory pokemon. And if they succeed, they would literally be unstoppable.
@@zacmayes2802 Yeah pretty much lol
@@chrisrpg2038 was that in the game? I know it was in the manga
Funny enough Team Rainbow-Rocket actually had all the previous villains from other universes were they were successful with their plans
I mean, Team Star already succeeded in their plans. They wanted to get rid of bullying at the Academy, which they did... eighteen months before the start of the game.
Team star became the Bullies of bullies
Is Dobbs even aware that Ultra Sun & Ultra Moon where we meet the team villains (Minus Team Skull, Aethar foundation, Yell, Macro foundation and star) where they succeeded in their timelines and their success being a good is a terrible world to live in
Missed neo team plasma as well but covered neo team rocket.
Lysander basicaly was only saved by Giovani machine meaning he would die
Didn't AI Sada and Turo's plan already succeed not just in Paldea but for the entire pokemon world? In the distant future, at least in Violet's case, there are no more pokemon and it's possibly a dystopian place. The paradox pokemon in Violet that were originally flesh and blood and different types are now made up of Steel. Some of these pokemon are Iron Treads (Donphan), Iron Moth (Volcarona), Iron Hnads (Hariyama), Iron Jugulis (Hydregon), Iron Thorns (Tyranitar), Iron Bundle (Delibird) and Iron Valiant (a combination of Gardevoir and Gallade). Chairman Rose stated there will be a energy crises that will affect the Galar region in 1,000 years and in the remake of Ruby and Sapphire, there is a place hinted at being a safe zone in case a apocalypse happens. In Legensds, a character asks since your character came from the future, is there pokemon in it. One of the answers you can give is, '"No, its nothing like that"' stating there are no more pokemon. The second option is a happier answer saying pokemon are friends with everyone. Who's to say these two apocalypse events, plus your unhappy answer in Legends, are connected to Paldea's distant future problem in Violet thanks to both stupid original and their AI counterparts Sada and Turo? I hope Scarlet and Violet's DLC clears up this distant future problem.
A DLC based only around the distant future would not work with how Scarlet.. deals with the past... unless they go full hog and make two entirely different DLCs for each version.. which is not gonna happen...
I guess paradox Pokemon means that something happened in past or future which changed some Pokemon. Like making ttar which is was extent a robot Pokemon the world became unstable to live in or roaring moon has to adapt to the nature to become salamance but it didn't and it created a paradox timeline.
@@tedxteddy I only hope it is for some Pokemon and not all. I love the Ralts evolution line so it's a shame if we get a robotic Ralts line in the future due to it not adapting to the environment. That is, if the devs want to go down that route.
@@BaconNuke You don't know, the Pokemon world is slowly making its way into open world territory and we did have the two different DLCs, isle and tundra, in both Sword and Shield. Even if this is the Pokemon company we are taking about, they are changing its formula around so they might consider two DLCs to go with the two games to expand its lore or fix the paradox problem. Here's hoping anyway.
Tbf their is still that theory that Paradox Pokemon aren't from different parts of time but figments of the third legendary supposed ability to grant wishes/turn dreams into reality. And the time machine is just a convenient excuse for the 3rd legendary to use to create the paradox mons.
Ghetsis did have a contingency, he has the staff in Pokemon BW2 that says “You can’t use Pokéballs to catch Pokémon.” He would just jeed to create a world-wide version of that.
If Team Rocket had succeeded in the beginning, Giovanni would've seen most of the following evil teams as top threats to his legacy & either supported them while planning to double-cross them at the first advantageous opportunity OR had Team Rocket stop them.
Imagine a game where you have to frantically defend a base from team Rocket during an all out assault, gives me chills thinking about it
Actually, you can see Giovanni doing exactly that (but not controlling everything though) in Pokemon Masters EX. He just casually intercepts the other team's plans just to piss them off 😂
@@remorasquill6236 Noice!
If neo rocket succeeded, wouldn’t they still have to contend with red? I can’t imagine he’d hear about their reemergence and not be salty that Giovanni went back on his word to him.
Yeah.
Unless neo rocket can catch and control mewtwo against red?
So I did kind of something similar. So in a story I had been working on Ash is accidentally killed by Jessie and James they didn't mean to do it, but with him out of the picture everyone else gives up. Flash forward about 10 years and Jessie and James are the heads of Team Rocket. They aren't as evil as Giovanni so they let their grunts keep more powerful Pokemon that they have grown attached too since they remember having to give up their Unova Pokemon. Anyways everyone works for Tean Rocket now with them using Rocket points as a form of money that can be used to buy items and can be earned by work or beating other trainers. Now I basically took the idea of the Pokétch and tweaked it a bit. They have a watch that can connect with others and display their I.D. as well as transfer Rocket points and even works as a communicator and tracking device. Now anyone can be a grunt and join the academy at 10 graduating at 13 and depending on the number of Rocket badges you earn it will determine your rank as the students can take on the gyms and the Rocket league the winner becoming an executive right after graduating
This is actually a pretty interesting scenario
Why does this make me think they also have a little monument to ash they visit cause this makes me think they might have a bit of trauma thanks to that
Dobbs: If they succeed, Team Neo Rocket will be able to make Shiny Pokemon at will Some random genner: look at what they need to mimic a fraction of our power
I like How Half the evil teams Have stupid plans Most of Them Have insane plans well
It’s like these teams were an afterthought after GF created the new Pokémon for the region or something
Team Magma: 7/10, too much water. Team Aqua: 7/10, too much land.
Gamefreak would never ever ok something like this, but I would like to see an open world pokemon game set after a team magma/aqua victory where you explore the ecologically ruined world atop a rapidash/lapras that you befriend at the beginning of the game with the goal of finding the counterpart legendary (kyogre in team magma scenario, groudon in team aqua scenario) in order to bring the world back into balance
Make it a pokemon rangers game. I can see the plot fitting that kind of gameplay
That Would be nice
WATERWORLD or ENDLESS DESERT .... no thanks
Great Ruby and Sapphire Seas would be cool, but maybe have the ridables be there, and... OOOH maybe have it be a 2nd DLC where you stop a rampaging pokemon (Groudon or kyogre) with the help of the 2 leagues and maybe even a few champions before the sea swallows everything or all water is gone. And it would be a nice segway to introduce other mechanics and regions, be it coastal kalos, poni island, and a saved hoenn? who knows, maybe even a portion of unova.
GAMEFREAK I HAVE AN IDEA THAT WOULD SELL
if you're going to count every villain in the pokemon games, you're missing some, i know you're counting the main games but I'd like to see these Villains winning Team Cipher (Pokemon Colosseum) Team Din sun (pokemon ranger)
Team Cipher: World gets overrun by Shadow Pokémon. Team Dim Sun: Eternal Darkness with a side of Perpetually Hypnotized Pokémon
Also the Miss Fortune Sisters from PLA.
@@medichampion328 They're thieves, plain and simple.
@Medichampion328 they are petty thieves though so they really don't count
Huh, the Pokémon ranger I played had a team go go for villains, how many are there?
Got to love how Lysandre's inverntion, the holocaster, is just the holocausts but slightly alters.
Team Flare are basically Pokemon Nazis tbh. Their goal is genocide, the Holocaster = Holocaust thing, and they have a very secret police vibe to their team, since they listen in on Holocaster conversations, have some implied plainclothes agents, and have control over the media thanks to Malva.
HOW DID I NOT NOTICE THIS BEFORE AAAAAA
It’s honestly amazing they already explored the bad guys winning in US/UM with Team Rainbow Rocket basically being made up of team bosses that were successful with their goals. Not only that, but US/UM are in a similar universe, if not identical one to the new timeline with mega evolution, which includes ORAS, so if you think about it, two Archie’s and Maxie’s existed in the same world for a short time. The old and the new ones!
Can you do that with other pokemon spinoff too ? It could be really interesting.
I would like to see what Cipher would have done if they succeeded. Their whole goal was kinda dark for a Pokemon game and I would like to see the outcome.
yeah, Pokemon Masters EX is the spinoff too
Imagine the outcomes for the Mystery Dungeon series…
Mystery dungeon…. Everything just stops, Pokémon ranger everything goes to hell with the climate disaster your welcome
@@MrKlausbaudelaire Red and Blue: The meteorite (aka Deoxys) kills every pokemon except rayquaza and the ones who lives in sky tower. Time, Dark and Sky: The time fully stops and Grovyle's future stays the same or worse than we saw in game
With Ghetsis he even has a plan to control both the storage and by extension PokeBall system so only authorized people could catch Pokemon. And Ghetsis had plans to control the creation trio.
“They would how control of mewtwo” mewtwo after massacring the grunts that went to catch it , “that was easier than I thought it would be”
Tbh Maxie's plan in using Groudon's drought effect WAS smart for his goal, using volcanos to make rocks in the giant masses of sea however, is not. But even if he used groudon to slowly dry all the water in hoenn it would have killed several pokemon and eventually starved and killed the people there (or at least made the region unlivable) and once it spread planetarily like it mentions everyone would eventually die of heatsroke dehydration or famine
If 1 pearl=1,000 Pokédollars, and is sold at a low price, then this equates to $100 US dollars, which is the real life lowest price for a pearl. Therefore, 1000 Pokédollars divided by 100 US Dollars=10. Therefore, 10 Pokédollars=1 US Dollar. Therefore, joining Team Flare, 5,000,000 Pokédollars divided by 100 US Dollars= $50,000
Pokedollars are a dubbed game thing, in the manga there is no such thing as pokedollars. It’s only Yen.
Technical pokedollers equal yen But I like the way you did it a little more
I am pretty certain that Ghetsis did in fact have a contingency plan based on the fact that he was in possession of the Adamant, Lustrous and Griseous orbs as is seen in the post-game when the shadow triad gives the player character those items as Ghetsis instructed them to do.
Chairman Rose did not want to make Leon capture Eturnitis and stop any energy problems on the future! He wanted to destroy Galar so he could make the future a better place, or so he thought
I desperately wanted to say YES to joining Team Rocket on that Nugget Bridge.
Volo wouldn't capture arceus and discover myths, he would most likely just make or change the world so that everything negative no longer exists. Why would he capture Arceus, what does he get out of that?
I loved this one. Thank you!!! I hope you keep making new videos. Your thoughts are awesome and really entertaining!
You get expanded lore on all villains in Pokemon Masters EX, huge lore is there.
Actually, you could have made an entry for Team Star, but it would kind of nullify their existence in the first place. In this timeline, had Team Star succeeded, it would mean their bullies had been caught and expelled from the school. But the question then remains, would Team Star disband or would they stay friends? Would Penny come out of hiding and reveal her face, or would she stay hidden, afraid that she wouldn't live up to her friends' expectations of her? I believe Penny would become resentful, and bitter of her former friends, the people who missed her dearly in the main timeline, and hate them based on her own narrative that they would not like her for who she is. She would contact the player, as she does in the main timeline, and tell them to fight the former Team Star bosses, based on some lie she made up. In reality, she wants the player to humiliate the bosses in front of everyone, in an act of petty revenge for something they never did. After the last boss falls she would gloat and monologues, talking about how friendship has no value and how it didn't help the bosses in the end. But as she speaks, the sudden realization that she feels empty would wash over her. She realise her "revenge" did not make her happy like she thought it would, and to make matters worse she would be confronted by her former friends who would ask her how she could even begin to believe her plan was a good idea. They would call her out as being the very thing she fought against in the first place when she formed Team Star, a bully, which would devastate Penny and she leaves Paldea to never return again. I don't find that story as satisfying as what we got, but I can't deny it does sound like a story Pokémon would have made in the past.
Listening to some of these plans, I imagine a Spider-Man: No Way Home situation where the Rainbow Rocket villains discuss their plans and realize they were all about to die.
Finally, I know who is / was a team rocket member in manga.
“The Elite Four is clearly against Team Rocket” *Meanwhile in the Pokemon Manga*
Every other version of Lance: Friend :) Manga Lance: TERRORISM LETS GOOOOOOOO
I love your theory videos! Very nice predications
I hope if Italy gets a region they do a mafia based evil team
Pokémon regions based on countries is just very weird.
@@Mysticgames136... You mean like, 99% of the past ones?
I feel like any major threats that could harm the world and by extension Kalos. Zygarde would try to put an end to it.
"And what tickled my piclle more stongly than anything-" -Volo
Never realized how much I had in common with Volo.
They should make a game based on Paldea where the paradox pokemon actually live in the main land and as we are already familiar with the land it would be nice to see how it would look like destructed. This idea would make a great 18+ game due to massive destruction and violence which E-rated pokemon won't do. lol
Lysandre Tried to warn us about modern society, No wonder why he is this way, he predicted the future, I can, no We can relate to him now
Great video Dobbs. Keep up the great work. Love your videos and personality.
I ain't even gonna lie, Sada and Turo's plans actually sound totally awesome and I can completely get behind, kinda sounds like what Jurassic World Dominion should have been
Lysander is a sociopath not a psychopath. He is well aware of his actions and his contempt for human life is comparable to any real world tyrant. On another note team yell are basically football hooligans.
GENIOUS idea for a video Dobbs! Enjoyed it
So basically 1) If Team Rocket wins, it's basically what PETA thinks of Pokèmon 2) If Team Aqua and Team Magma succeed they destroy each other 3) If Team Galactic wins, the Universe gets deleted or rebooted 4) If Team Plasma succeed, Ghestis become a warlord 5) If Team Plasma wins, only the wealth of society survive 6) If Lusamine succeed, the Ultra Beast invade the world 7) If Volo succeed, the universe gets reshaped as his will 8) If the Professors succeed, Paldea is doomed for the Paradox Pokèmon You know, I think things would be interesting if every team winsa at the same period and interact with each other (Ghestis invades Kanto that is ruled by Giovanni and so on)
I love the Mario 64 sound track in the video :) Unless I'm mistaken but it sounds super similar :) Hail Team Rocket! :)
Yesyes I love team rocket :3
Hail team Sky
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@@superk9letsplays419 I'm a Pokémon, actually, and I'm female, but I appreciate the compliment nonetheless. Thank you
Timestamps: 0:11 Team Rocket 2:36 Team Neo Rocket 3:52 Team Aqua & Magma 5:54 Team Galactic 8:02 Team Plasma 9:40 Team Flare 10:50 Team Skull, The Aether Foundation & Team Rainbow Rocket 12:24 Team Yell & Chairman Rose 13:52 Volo 15:06 Team Star & Professor Sada + Turo
Neat analysis video! Thanks for uploading!
The Kanto gym leaders being apart of team rocket in the manga blew my mind. I just learned something new and nothing else I learn today is gonna top that.
While we’re on the subject, I’ve got some great ideas for Evil teams in Pokémon. Team Unversed, Team Legend, Team Paradox, Team Holon, and Team Aesthetica!
Interesting. What do they do?
@@vlalcremie002 idk about team unversed, legend, or paradox, team holon does evil stuff with terastalization.
Buried alive should also be part of or lead an evil team
@@SavePriconneEN nah, I think he'd work better as a solo villain
@@vlalcremie002 Defeat him and a cutscene plays where he lunges at the player only to get one-shot by a Bullet Seed attack from the rival, causing Buried Alive to return to the dust of the earth.
I don't entirely believe Team skull would be after money; I just think they want to stop everybody else from completing the island challenge. I it is said they're just island challenge mis-fits that want nothing more then to stop the island challenge altogether. Outside of this, They're pretty reasonable; Even as far as to heal you're pokemon in Po town.
This is one of my fav videos you've done
if you give it a thought you'll realize that Rainbow Rocket actually succeeded in their plans. The traveler Giovanny recruited villian bosses from multiple regions from multiple realities as his officers, each of them with their respective legendary pokemon. Rainbow Rocket just keep wandering across realities doing their bussines. In the 7th gen games we just happened to beat them and at the end Giovanny just leaves the place with a smile on his face, probably seeking for a different reality where Lusamine suceeded, to recruit her to work under him as he did with other bosses. With infinite realities, infinite posibilities are open so he can afford to quit realities where troublesome geniuses are troubling his plans and focus only on those he can control. He'd leave with new knowledge for the next invasion and at some point they'd be just unstoppable anywhere Rainbow Rocket's Giovanny is the ultimate boss from any multiverse
An idea I for a Pokémon villain was one who wanted to become the Champion of their region, so to that end they started an evil team to help them hunt down and capture powerful Pokémon that would allow them to be the strongest in the region. They wouldn't necessarily be strictly evil, more power-driven and overly ambitious. Perhaps going after Legendary Pokémon with little care to what danger to the world their actions would cause or deciding another Trainer's Pokémon has the right potential to be part of their Champion Team could be where it starts becoming more clear why they're so evil. Though they wouldn't necessarily have their subordinates steal people's Pokémon, they'd coerce/manipulate people into giving up their Pokémon to them.
dont forget that if lysandre's plan succeeds, then his plan would basically fail, because without much oxygen (the 100 something people at team flare arent enough), the world would just become a wasteland
Even then let's just say Team flare is with 1 million of members, who is going to admnister the eletricity? Produce food? Farm for vegetables? Or even medical assistance? Because the profile of Team Flare is the trainer soo i heavily doubt they would have many people in key areas to mantain life working
Well with Xerneas they’d probably be fine, just not particularly comfortable
But the machine wouldn't destroy the whole world. It never did inn the 1st place, so he would have to shot that thing multiple times. It even destroys itself with a shot (probably not maxed out power) so I doubt he would be able to destroy the whole world.
uhh Oxygen? Sorry Team flare was the genocidal maniac for beauty guys not team Aqua.
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They did. It's called the team rainbow rocket post ending to Ultra Sun & Moon
Not really, Maxie, Archie and Lysander are implied to almost die to their plans but were taken by Team rainbow rocket
@@Eric6761 lol I just realized that pokemon beat Marvel's Spiderman No Way Home plot by years XD
The Indigo Plateau Elite Four from the Manga would definitely work with Team Rocket.
If I may Dobbs, you forgot someone. Mikey, (Mandjtv) leader of Team sky. If he wins, he will expand the sky. With all the consequences that come with it.
Those consequences would actually be good: with an expanded atmosphere, pollution would have less effect over the earth, increasing the quality of life. So, Team Sky's plan would actually be great for all people and Pokémon
And I'm not saying this because I am part of Team Sky. Not at all
Thanks for doing this!
I always thought ghetsis plan was a step 1. I thought he was the most clever. Since he would let the higher ups willing give him his pokemon like the champion elite 4 ect. Then he could make a police state with his plasma members enforcing no pokemon catching or battling and confiscating pokeballs. That means he wouldnt have to remove wild pokemon from the equation because even if some resistance members sprung up there wouldnt be any trainers or gyms to fight to gain xp. The resistance members would have to rely on audino grinding which plasma could easily paint them as the villain in that case as the resistance is making audino go extinct. It would give ghetsis reign for a long time and would not be as short lived as you may suspect.
12:32 As a Marnie stan, this just sounds like the best world to live in.
•The Kanto Elite four are team rocket in the manga too. Edit: Terrorist* •I'm next sure why he just doesn't say the evil teams beat the legendary pokemon instead of them not caring.
team flare have a member in the E4 too
Weren't the kanto elite 4 just some terrorists (except for Bruno). Haven't read it in a while but I don't remember if they were connected to team Rocket (some gym leaders were tho).
@Magnus in the manga, lance had the plan to kill all humans for the sake of pokemon, as he only ever encountered abused pokemon in his childhood. So, yea, more or less
The Kanto E4 definitely werent Team Rocket in the manga, the Team Rocket gym leaders fought alongside Yellow and Red to stop them because Team Rocket was included in the humans they planned to wipe out.
I mean, Team Star essentially succeeded in their ultimate goal, despite *technically* disbanding, thanks to Clavell. Also, the Team Plasma thing gets tricky as well considering that the team literally splinters between a faction that follows N's ideals and a faction that follows Ghetsis's in B2W2. If Ghetsis succeeded in the sequel games, not only would he reign over Unova with the power of a likely fused Kyurem, but many of the cities would be frozen solid for defying him.
these are actually canon in an AU of Pokemon, Sun/Moon(/Ultra) reveal it at about end of game if were paying attention to the dialogs before fighting the respective bosses.
I enjoy the Team Yell ending 😂 I want that plan to succeed!
4:45 I forgot how much of a baddie Shelly was
Lysandre wanted to wipe out all life aside from Team Flare, that means pokemon too, not just people.
"I'll read what he said..." "... And what tickled my pickle..." WAIT WHAT?! 😂😂😂
team flare could’ve been an amazing evil team but they were shockingly executed
Arceus would probably have a save state 💀
Wonderful video!
Pokémon USUM post game has the answer of this. Giovanni would be unstoppable, would be able to control the world, and now bored, decides to investigate interdimensional traveling, finds out it's a thing, and the rest is story.
team magma's awesome because volcanoes! 🌋 although i would be cool with Team Yell succeeding in making Marnie & Morpeko the main characters of the anime
In generation 3, you forgot the most powerful team, team sky, they would expand the sky.
They don't have a dedicated game for their evil scheme to take place in, so that's why Dobbs didn't include 'em.
technically speaking, team Star succeeded they stopped the bullies at the school as best they could, and, after explaining they’re situation to the principal, got off with a slap on the wrist (even the Boss’s punishment only came from their illegal actions unrelated to affiliation with team Star)
Sun and moon villians really be like: i just wanna chill in peace 😢
2:26 basically team rocket would be ea
Can't spell "Team Rocket" without *EA*
What would become of Silver if either one of Team Rocket's plans succeeded?
Since Silver starts his journey after Red in the games. He probably wouldn’t even be a trainer if the first plan works, since he probably couldn’t afford a Pokémon. If the second plan worked he would probably just be Johto’s version of Red
isn't Silver Giovanni's son?
@@antassingh2991 yes
Tbh he’d probably have some sort of position in Team Rocket and live with his dad. Giovanni seemed to be raising Silver prior to running away after his defeat at the hands of Red given team rocket members know what he looks like (a scientist in FRLG says “Giovanni’s son has red hair”) and since Silver in the original version calls him dad. I could see him climbing his way through the ranks and maybe landing a gym leader or Elite 4 position since Giovanni would raise Silver to be loyal to him and with Giovanni winning Silver continues to see Giovanni and Team Rocket as strong and thus has his loyalty
Haven’t watched this channel since like 2016. And it hasn’t changed a bit Now I’m back!
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