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What if every legendary trio Pokemon had a 4th member? Well in this video I go over one additional legendary Pokemon concept for every region! Starting with the Kanto region with the Legendary Birds, and ending with the Paldea region with the Loyal Three! I hope you guys enjoy it!
00:00 Intro
00:16 Legendary Birds
02:20 Legendary Beasts
05:01 Super-ancient Pokémon
07:20 Pokemon of Myth
09:43 Lake Guardians
11:51 Tao trio
14:35 Aura trio
17:10 Light trio
18:53 Loyal Three
20:41 Outro
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For anyone wondering why Moltres is Spring and Zapdos is Summer, in many cultures summer is characterized as the season of thunderstorms, including in Japan where the stormy season is May-July. Moltres being spring is the phoenix rising like how spring brings new life
Good shout. I was curious about that, but not quite enough to check. Thanks. 👍👍
That makes sense. I was thinking it was weird moltres wasn't summer, but i live in california. 110° in summer is on the high end of normal, and we're usually on fire.
Spark of life. Spring= new life Spark=fire
I just thought that zapdos was Summer because it so popular and makes everyone happy and lightning is the most energetic source of energy and that makes happiness
Still makes more sense that zapdos would be spring when there are way more thunderstorms and moltres being fire should be summer since fire and hot go hand and hand
For the Loyal three, I'm surprised that no one else noticed that they all could have specifically been from Unova. Okidogi could have been an evolution from the stoutland line, Munkidori could have been an elemental monkey, specifically panpour or pansear, and Fezandipiti could've been an unfezant. All of these pokemon are both from Unova and not in Scarlet and Violet or the dlcs. If the pokemon were all in the same region, it would make sense that they would become a trio under the toxic chain, and would come to kitakami to steal the masks.
As a gen5ver, I stand by this despite not owning the Teal Mask dlc
The Burberry academy is quite literally in the Unova region
Well apparently in the Indigo Disk portion of the DLC, there is actually another Pokemon tied to the loyal three, said to resemble something like a peach. Just what I’ve heard but would be cool
pokemon can't evolve three times
@@dwightdeisenhower53 maybe OP didn’t mean evolution per se, but like the video described, coming from one of those lines and turning into what they are now as a result of carrying the toxic chain. Kinda like Gollum in LOTR (bad analogy I know but the only one I could think of)
Couple corrections. Suicune is a leopard not a cheetah, all the beast are a species of panther. And the TAO trio are based on TAOISM, not alchemy. The similarity between the dragons and alchemy is a popular yet unconfirmed fan theory.
I agree
He seriously missed the Taoism inspiration for the TAO Trio. It's literally in the name
Bro it is only for entertamet
@@mcason1263 So..?
He also called it Tai too. Which messed with me a bit. And Reshiram is the pokemon of truths and Zekrom is Ideals
I think he did it because there'd be nowhere to go with the tao trio. You already have light and dark, with kyurem being a mix of both. I could see one being based on balance, maybe a pure pokemon of some sort.
I'm surprised you missed the Momotaro theme for the loyal 3 trio would be cool to see a pokemon based on momotaro himself
Probably going to get Dokutaro later already
I don't under stand how he missed it either🤔
That’s going to be the Pokémon that corrupted them and will be in the indigo disk dlc
@@marktaylor648yes
DON DON, DONBROTHERS (sorry)
These are pretty interesting and well-researched, although you missed a decent detail for the creation trio: Palkia having two legs, Dialga having four, and Giratina having six. The new one having four breaks that mold a fair bit.
also missed on the ying-yang detail for zek and resh
He missed something else: the creation TRIO is actually the creation QUARTET because Arceus is literally God.
Also we need the origin form
He also missed out the Momotaro story which the Loyal Three based on.
I noticed you missed the Yin and Yang theme Reshiram and Zekrom had, with Reshiram representing Yang, Zekrom representing Yin, and Kyurem representing Wuji(The absence of both). Kind of their most important theme, and very suprised you missed it.
I almost did a face slap when I heard him say "yeah the only theme these guys have is Alchemy" Like, bruh 💀 Literally everyone knows them for their Ying Yang theme, even the most used fanmade name for the trio, "Tao Trio", comes from Taoism/Daoism. Then also missed the Energy theme, but at least it's still represented in the 4th Dragon (kindda, since it was a "Force", not energy)
He also missed the Hindu theme behind the Aura Trio.
So maybe a dragon that represents both of kyurem means absences of both to complete the circle
He also missed that the "loyal" three are based on the three animal companions from the story of Momotaro, don't ONLY have the Toxic Chain ability, and that they really have nothing to do with Area Zero, so putting cappygolucky there in the dex entry makes no sense.
@PowerPunk31590 so... the original dragon?
darkest day trio? *sad zacian noises* *sad zamazenta noises* *sad eternatus noises*
It seems he is the section of the fandom that thinks zacian and zamazenta are a duo
Bruh how does he not see that's it's clearly a trio.@@Burning_flames9999
*Sad Thunderus noises* *Sad Tornadus noises* *Sad Landorus noises*
@@rockyanimates8874enamorus*
The "Creation" legendaries already has a fourth: Arceus
Nah
@@KxngKam14 what do you mean?
@@katzlover321 Arceus is the leader of the creation trio and the trio are legendaries while the former is a mythical
@@Shootmetillibleed Arceus is a Legendary
@@katzlover321no check the Google Arceus is mythical
Adding a fourth member to the Loyal Three doesn't work because the animals in the Momotaro myth are a dog, monkey and pheasant. Adding a capybara would just make the reference not work anymore. 💀
Shush
Shush
Shush, its for fun, they are most likely aware of that
Loved the video! My only suggestion would be calling it Tornaquatro (to make the Spanish number stick out) and maybe make a Galarian form of said Tornado bird. Perhaps a Ghost or Steel type, as I would consider those similar to Psychic, Dark, and Fighting in terrifying strength and/or cruelty.
Fairy would have be better than steel, but am agree for ghost
Ooo I might go ghost type for the galarian counterpart. Idk what kind of bird it would be based on but I’m sure a bird enthusiast could figure that out. And I say ghost because it probably uses its leaves and wind power to create a ghostly atmosphere into the night to scare children and adults alike. The wind is said to sound like a weeping child asking for help. I’m sure with more thought this could be better
Personally I actually made a 4th Legendary beast a while ago that was a grass type and it fit into the cycle of life as it's the flourishing of new life from the tower after the fact (as flowers can regrow in those types of places and bring about new life and rebirth)
Eeveelution
@@thecupheadgamer9544 I mean that's not a confirmed theory but even then... Leafeon exists and better yet could be seen as a throw back to the space world demo where a beta Leafeon was going to be a third Eevelution in Johto
I think Ho-oh is the new life part. But i do want to see every eeveelution reborn as a legendary beast
I've also thought of a 4th beast, albeit I tossed away the Eeveelution aspect, merely focusing on how they tie into the tower, and their Hidden Abilities - the ones that make them immune to their types. Earth Eater and Sap Sipper narrow things down a nice amount, along with the stat layout. Haven't come up with a name for either one, but the gist is Element + a kind of ruler. Either a Ground-Type or Grass-type wolf, representing the tower after and before it got burnt to the ground, respectively, Ground-type one essentially being the ashes. This Pokemon would try to Hunt Ho-Oh, for improperly bringing it back to life, but always be suppressed by the others in the trio.
Fun fact about the bird trio. Articuno represents the absence of energy, Moltres the presence of energy, and Zappos the transferring of energy
So Tornaquatro (or -cuatro, I like my version better haha) would represent the medium of transfer?
@@grootwashere1219perchance
Bro forgot the dark day trio 💀
I think Zacian and Zamasenta are a dúo and Eternatus is by itself
Zacian zamazenta eturnatus/eturnamax and the legendary draggaron the Electric/dragon type it is said to be born from the pure side of eternatus and the energy of 1k jolteons 6:07
The Loyal 3 are based on the story of Momotaro, A capybara doesn’t work at all…
Hey Dobbs, you actually missed a detail about the Loyal Three, and its that they're actually based on the three animals from the story of Momotaro, a hero who fights onis/ogres, which also explains their rivalry with Ogrepon, though of course with the roles reversed.
A lot I like, but I feel you missed a bunch of details. I loved a lot of the designs, the bird is a really great take in the concept (I'd love to know you'd handle the Galarian), the beast representing the night it happened is super observant and I love it, a Fire big bang pokemon is super cool and fits in awesome, a being if Imagination is super imaginative and also fits in amazingly, playing off the 4th dimension for gen 6 is a clever idea I just wouldn't have thought of, the idea of a gravity monkey with a planet tail and based off a space animal is super clever and funny, and the name "Cappygolucky" gives me life. For the not so great, you missed a looooot of inspirations for a lot of groups. You didn't cover the earth/sea/sky dynamic, you missed the Shinto/Christianity influences in gen 4, "Omni" isn't a pronoun, the Tao trio are based on the Chinese legends of the Three Wise Ones, Kyurem doesn't represent unity but the absence thereof (which is why it looks so misshapen when it absorbs only one. The message of the story is that realism and idealism are both imperfect in their own), you didn't go over the cycle of life, death and rebirth in gen 6, the alchemy inspiration in gen 7, the relation to Cosmog, or the fact that the Loyal Three are based off the tale of Momotaro.
Well said
It is also theorised that the Lake Trio of Sinnoh draw parallels with the 3 monkeys Uxie with its eyes closed "sees no evil" Mesprit who roams the Sinnoh region before catching it "touches no evil" (some variations use touch instead of hear) Azelf who is associated with knowledge and wisdom "speaks no evil"
I like how Legends Arceus gave us a canon 4th member of the Forces of Nature with Enamorus
The fourth member of the Creation Trio here reminds me of Heatran. I wonder if he was initially going to have more of a presence in the games but eventually got scrapped in favor of focusing on the main three. Heatran even has that weird circular spot on it's forehead where a gemstone easily could have gone. This would also make sense as Heatran is also the Pokedex number directly after Palkia. The order is Dialga - Palkia - Heatran - Regigigas - Giratina
All these legendaries were so cool! Kudos to the artists!! My fav is Braxar, love the yin yang with rayquaza
i love how you put another legendary beast using the lore
This is such a well made video. One of my favorites youve made
The loyal three are based the legend of Momotaro
I have a 4th member to the legendary bird trio in one fanfic. Aquatro a water flying type. It refused to bow to Ho-Oh and was banished to another region, where it was worshiped as a god because it brought life giving rains that shaped the land. It’s based on a mythical bird like the legendary trio, but I can’t remember what the name was. In the story, Kanto suffers an unnatural drought and the main character is tasked with bringing Aquatro to help bring relief. She’s chosen because she can communicate with Pokémon. Her 2 traveling companions and parents as well as Jessie, James, and Meowth accompany her. Jessie, James, and Meowth are retired from Team Rocket and Rachel (the MC) and her family moved in next door to them. Rachel is the daughter of Dawn and Paul, so the former Team Rocket trio happily baby sat her when she was growing up (she learned her first curse word from Jessie when she was 8). The three were retired but and old contact told them about how the drought was rumored to be caused by Ream Rocket’s new leader and that this person wanted to steal Aquatro so that they could sell its rain and water. So, the three join the group in taking Aquatro to Kanto. Rachel gets to show off her abilities as a Pokémon trainer to them and her girlfriend and the former Team Rocket trio confront their old team members.
Of course she learned her first cuss word from Jessie haha. Also, fire fanfic right there! I like the idea of Aquatro as well! The lore is impressive.
Fun fact: it’s now recently proven Suicune is ACTUALLY BASED OFF A KURIN A BEAST that’s a combination of the dragon and a UNICORN
Finding out the meanings for these legends make me love pokemon names a lot more
for me, if you try to connect it then in Hoenn there is already a 4th representation it was Deoxys who represented as outer space, then in Sinnoh it is clear that the 4th Pokemon is Arceus itself because it represents creation, and in my opinion the most difficult thing to add is in Unova, Kalos, and paldea because of the concept what they have is too specific, the tao trio represents the yin yang concept, and the aura trio represents the circle of life haha, and in paldea the concept was momotaro journey who just had 3 animals 😂😂
YOU FORGOT ABOUT THE FACT THAT THE LOYAL THREE ARE BASED OFF THE ANIMALS IN THE LEGEND OF MOMOTARO!
The creation trio isnt a trio though, its a quartet, being that Arceus is apart of it. Yes Arceus is grouped with Palkia, Dialga and Giratina.
It's a Trio, Arceus is an external Trio Master. It's not like he's directly involved with the Trio, he just made them to start creation and then left them to run everything on their own. He didn't even showed up when the entire universe was mere seconds away from going to hell. If we are counting Arceus, then you might aswell count the Lake Guardians, so they are actually a group of 7, a Septet. And by that logic then the Birds wouldn't be a Trio either, it's a Quartet cuz Lugia. And the Beasts are also a Quartet, cuz Ho-oh. And since Ho-oh and Lugia are a Duo, then we can group them all together as an Octet. And the Tao Trio? Yeah, not a Trio either. Just how they represent Yin, Yang, and Wuji, so too do The Forces of Nature represent aspects of Daoism thanks to their Therian Formes, their True forms. Young Yin, Old Yin, Young Yang, Old Yang. Now it is another Septet.
This is so well thought out with beautiful art too! Really amazed!😊
One of your best videos! Thanks for making it!
Something was missed on the Loyal 3 is that they're based on the story of Momotarou who befriended a dog, a monkey and a pheasant. It may be hard to make the 4th one a peach while I have heard mentions of a crab, a bee and a chestnut in the story, I don't think a capybara was mentioned.
You missed the Darkest Day trio
Did not expect to like this video, ended up loving it. Really really interesting things here.
I'm surprised you didn’t made a Momotaro Pokémon for the Loyal three
So many cool concept, difficult to choose one favourite! On a different note, it cracks me up the way you say Fezandipiti
Such a delightfully well thought out video!
I would really like to see an origin form for Opagia.
For the new legendary of the Tao trio: It would have been perfect if it was red, because it would fit the theme of the stages of the creation of the philosopher's stone: Kyurem would be the basic material (silver) you would use to make the stone. Zekrom would be the first stage "Nigredo", meaning blackening. Reshiram would be the second stage "Albedo", meaning whitening. The new Pokemon would be the third and final stage "Rubedo", meaning reddening.
Just wanna say I love Furret! 😂
What is your profile picture from?
@@katzlover321 it’s Android 18 from Dragon ball, I actually made this pfp on a app!
@@Lazuli_Chan like drew it?
@@Lazuli_Chan have you made anything else?
Mew to Whiskerus: SO YOU'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR ALL THE MEW RUMORS.
At first I was like, wiat why did you skip over the Darkest Day Trio, but then I reaized they kinda already have a 4th member in Calyrex. Also, it does seem like there might be a potentially 4th member of the Loyal Three already. People have pointed out what looks like a 4th member in the cutscene showing the Loyal Three appearing and stealing the masks.
Because there's no "Darkest Day Trio" They are rivals, not a Trio There's Eternatus, who caused the Darkest Day. And then there's the Hero Duo, who have no conection whatsoever to Eternatus, other than them whooping his ass because it was a menace to the world. Had Eternatus crashed anywhere else, Zacian and Zamacenta wouldn't have anything to do with him
No but by that logic so do the legendary birds in Lugia and the legendary beasts in Ho Oh and the creation trio in Arceus. I don't get why Darkest Day trio was skipped
Issue with this: a bunch have a 4th, usually as the leader. Birds - Lugia Beasts - Ho-oh Weather - Deoxys (Not really the leader) Creation & Lake - Arceus (obviously) Tao, Aura, Light - Don't have one for these Loyal 3 - Ogerpon
Doesn’t Ogerpon hate the loyal 3 that much?
@@pogggaming4470 This comment was before Pecharunt.
Considering the sinnoh legendaries are based on sauropods, I would've made the fourth legendary a shunosaurus since it can have a meteor on its tail
I’ve always wondered this!
Honestly the best fourth legendary video I have ever seen! These are the most realistic I have seen
these are rly well thought out concepts for the legendaries. im bias to the gravity monkey since i love monkey pokemon
When talking bout the norse trio, i was like, 'he better have ratatoskr' and then he delivered. I thank you
I like these ideas for more leagendrys i always enjoyed using these power houses when i was younger
U got some good ideas love all of em
I think for the legendary beast, the 4th of the member should be like a ground type beast. The reason for that is ‘cause I always interpreted the three beast as like a “natural” disaster theme: Entei being wildfire Suicune being tsunami/flood Raikou being Thunderstorms
But lugia is the 4th of the legendary birds tho
Ain't Ho-oh the counterpart to Lugia? Lugia is the founder of the legendary Birds and Ho-oh is the founder of the legendary beasts
@@user-ym5vq9es1w What I know is like Lugia is the one who maintain the catastrophes the legendary birds might do. Lugia didn’t create them.
@@kyleherman3963 Nah Iike a Leader of the birds but not part pf them, like Ho-oh.
Have been watching since 2018 and I still love watching your videos!
That’s awesome!! Thanks for the long time support 🙏🏻
very cool idea!
Loyal 3 are also based on the three animal companions of Momotaro, which you completely missed out. Though if you stick strictly with that logic, you wouldn't be able to come up with a forth member. You can try to create a fourth member based on Momotaro himself, a boy born from a peach, though according to leaks, it's actually happening.
0:51 another thing with the legendary bird trio is that Zapdos is energy and Articuno is the absence of energy, and Moltres is the in between
when I was a kid I thought lugia and ho-oh were the 4th and 5th legendaries of the birds,can't blame me since gen 2 was barely even announced back then and we really didn't know them too well like we do now,cause when I was a kid,I didn't even know gold and silver was gen 2,I thought they were just adding more to the first game but under different names,so yeah other gens didn't click with me until years later XD
Alright, now I need a Pokémon who created all types (just like the dragon one in this video) I love the concept of a Pokémon starting a type!
Why not give your forth bird member pokemon a galar regional form that’s fairy/flying
Dobbs and Callmearj will reach 1M subs before the end of the year!
Dobbs: "The 4th pokemon of the creation trio will be opegia" Arceus: *stares in pissed godly*
The Creation Trio also has in common to be based on the three archangels working for God. So Arceus is technically the fourth member.
I must say, even though it was a simple one, I liked the fourth Lake Guardian Spirit the best, it was just really clean and fitting in so well!
Ngl, i read only the title and was about to say "Boy, do i have news for you!" Lol
Bro this is so accurate
Giratina: *about to destory another world* Omnimp: Bad! Bad Demon! Giratina: *frowns and eyes droop of disappointment*
For the creation trio instead of using a fire type I feel a electric type would work better, as energy is most associated with electric, and electric can survive in space, but fire cannot, and you could base it of the rock citrine
The way you said uxie SO INCORRECT is very infuriating 🤣
Love ur videos!
Never cook again mate, i can't believe he calls himself a Fan and doesn't understand the "TAO" trio and Loyal trios original Theme the Very Main themes they're based on, I mean the Whole Bw & Bw2 were based on Truth and Ideals bs and he forgot, Lmao and the The Loyal trio Being based on The Story of Momotaro is referenced so much.
Omniemp sounds so fire. But also leads to terapagos if you think about it. So this would fit hella
Thank you so much for all videos you made. You are one of my absolutely best youtubers ever. Greetings from Czech Republic. Jsi borec. Mám moc rád tvoji tvorbu. Zdraví Nogy. Posílám pozdrav z Ústeckého kraje. My favorite was Tornatro.
Props to the artists who made the fourth member for all of these trios, but it just goes to show how well knit gamefreak make there trios due to how hard it is to find a good spot to add another one
Hello, I’ve been a fan for years. Cosy nostalgia to fall to sleep to!
Crazy how deep pokemon really goes for the name and how they became
This was interesting and entertaining
I feel like the 4th member of the creation trio should've been fire electric type because plasma can be created with electricity.
what about luiga and ho oh i know they arent trios but what if you make your own version of their 3rd and 4th Legendarry? also could you say the 4th tao could also fused with kyreum or does it make them be the original dragon?
Dude this video was all over the place. Some pokémon we got to see shiny versions of, some pokémon we didn't even got to see how their name was spell. I loved the squirrel but I have no idea what their name is
For convenience's sake, could you list the qualities these trios share? I ask because I want it to be there for people to make their own takes on a fourth legendary
My favourite is Gravsaki: the desing is even more aligned with Solgaleo and Lunala than Necrozma's, the concept is perfectly direct and understandable due to it beung a missing space theme with the trio (I mean Necrozma is black holes/stars, Solgaleo and Lunala are pretty obvious, and you may argue that an "earth themed pokemon" would also be fitting, but kinda had that with Zygarde, so).
Uhmm Dobbs I think necrozma already takes over that aspect of gravity bcs he's based off a black hole which sucks all the light around it and also it stands as the gravitational force that brings those bodies of light together till they fuse into an supreme light 💁🏽♂️
Soo.... I think the 4th legendary should be based of a white hole which spits out light and pushes everything around it far apart from itself so it should be based off anti gravity, the black hole sucks in the wormhole transports and the white hole spits out in another location Soo anytime necrozma eats the sun and moon it transforms into the supreme light which represents the white hole that spits out the energy, Soo the 4th legendary is just gonna be another necrozma but one that is constantly supreme light
What about the darkest day trio with zacian, zamazenta, and eturnotus
Wikirus laughs when entering in battles so for me it may sound like: "Whishi whishishishis"
Really nice Vid 🎉💯✌
Me after hearing him say "Alchemy" is the only inspiration for the TAO Trio, and he doesn't ever mentions Daoism: 🤦♂️ Joke aside, pretty great desings overall. Now I wanna see what the 4th Creation member would look as Origin Form. And a Galarian Tornacuatro. Would the Anti-Rayquaza get a Mega Form to mirror Ray, or a Primal Form cuz "Primal Chaos"? It would be cool to see new member for Duos, too. Something like Mewthree, or another Steed for Calyrex (this one would be really hard imo), make a new friend for Ho-oh and Lugia and give it it's own Legendary Trio like the Beasts and Birds. Kinda wierd that you missed some very obvious stuff like the Yin Yang aspects for the Tao Trio, the story of Momotaro for the Loyal 3, Alchemy for the Light Trio. It's also rare that you took into account the Eevee fantheory for the Beast, specially when all the evidence is so superficial and easilt debunked
if ya dont mind me asking where is tornadus thunderus and landorus or did ya nt do it bc or the new member in legends arceus?
I'd hunt down yazou to the ends of the Earth, if it actually existed I need a black panther pokémon on my team. my luxray would be very happy and the best part is it's my favorite animal. I'm very upset that they don't have one yet so this is purfect
7:52 bro my dumb butt thought he was abt to say platinum😭💀
I don't normally like fan make Pokémon but love that grass bird
I think you forgot about the "Swords of Power" Trio. P.S. They are my favorite trio, so please make a part 2 to finish this, but I like this video a lot!
You forgot the Momotaro Tale that inspires the entire Teal Mask storyline and the Loyal 3. If we had a 4th, it'd be a peach. Which we have. Pecharunt.
hey can someone send me a link to that pic of the norse tree i want it for my wallpaper thank you 🙏
These are all really cool and thought out!
The loyal 3 trio 4th member's lore is this. A war between the pladea region happened and molted iron, gold, ruby and diamond killed this pokemon and becoming a fossil until Diancie shows up with AZ's floette and gave the fossil a diamond and some dittos, crabinks, alakazams and bellosoms gather and dancing while using there powers and etc which revived the loyal 3's 4th member and the Az's floette also gaved the fossil one of the dead petals on it to revive it
What about the origin forme of the creation quartet?
For the evil Dragon thing (I forgot it name) it's new move could make the enemy Pokemon always target echother!
Idk who the artist is, but he deserves a raise.
the thumbnail looks so cute and adorable
Nidhögg doesnt represent evil and chaos, it simple gnaws on the branches to keep them from overgrowing and causing imbalance in yggdrasil, or even worse, forming a new realm 💀, also the third one should have been Jörmungander based or smth, and shape it IS a snake so it can take the shape of W, PLEASE LIKE I WANT TO SPREAD THIS INFO TO OTHER PEOPLE WHO ARE FOOLED BY DOBBS ABOUT NORSE MYTHOLOGY ❤❤❤