Deadpool And Wolverine - Will It Save Or Destroy Marvel?
2024 ж. 11 Ақп.
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The first teaser for Deadpool 3 dropped, and it looks... pretty good. But will this film live up to the legacy of its predecessors, or will it be a toned down Disney Marvel product?
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Neither save nor destroy. It will simply serve as the closing chapter in the book, but what a way to close the MCU and put the last nail in the coffin.
as if marvel is going to stop making garbage and trying to sell it. 2019 was the real end of the MCU for me.
i think the only way to save the mcu is to reboot cuz we lost a lot of very iconic characters like captian america iron man black panther and they ruined hulk
@MaxLeveled Agreed, this will most likely serve as the end of marvel movies as whole. (Or at least the end of the greats.)
The best thing they could do is let this be their swan song and go off at a high note.
@@t.n.h.ptheneohumanpatterna8334 Only if the reboot occurs after giving the franchise a 10-20 year break.
It appears Drinker is cautiously optimistic about a superhero movie. Unusual.
It is Deadpool. But caution is still nessarary because it is Marvel
Same here I think it's because Ryan has more creative control over this one It has definitely peaked my interest
i mean... its deadpool, but yeah.
Piqued@@Snowqueenelsaofficial992
i think all of us are, based on what disneys shown with marvel, it entirely possible this movie gets completely fucked
I can say that when Ryan agreed to do this movie under the Marvel banner it was contingent on him having complete creative control. Marvel brass was not allowed to re-imagine things, insert their own creative, etc. We dubbed it the Marvel, non Marvel movie.
Ryan is honestly going to be the only reason why Deadpool and Wolverine will be good. Disney and Marvel would fuck it up, but luckily Ryan has a lot of passion for this character, and Marvel knows a Deadpool movie with Ryan wouldn't go over well. So it'd overall have to be Ryan's way, or they wouldn't get Deadpool.
And that is singlehandedly going to be the thing that sets this movie apart from all the played out MCU movies.
So what happened to DP 2? It was a WOKE CRINGEFEST.....
@@alericc1889 What??
@@alericc1889 how???
If the biggest concern is that it’s not going to change the MCU and just be a movie that is fun and wild…if that’s the worst thing…then it’s a great thing. We don’t need these long term tie-in convoluted connections. Also, Deadpool and Wolverine as a title is pretty spot on with the comic titles of “Deadpool with [insert other person here]”
YOU NAIL IT THERE!!!
Spot on, these movies have to be their own thing first and foremost. Remember when Iron Man came at the end credits of the incredible hulk? That's how you make appropriate connections that build character. They have to be their own thing with their own story first.
“I am marvel Jesus” Is already funnier than anything from She-Hulk
Eh not really. Same old corny "humour" from the last two movies.
@@dimitrijetucovic1307if you think She Hulk is funnier than Deadpool, you are very much in the minority mate
@@dimitrijetucovic1307just say the humour isn't for you lmao
Neither, because the mouse is r*tarded and will just go back to doing what it's been doing after. Aka making slop and losing money
@@GIBBO4182 Never said it was, it was horrible. Deadpool jokes weren't much better.
The fourth wall breaks in the Deadpool trailer were already better than anything She-Hulk writers managed to do across an entire season
It would be great if Deadpool broke the 4th by stepping out of the screen into the real world to hunt down Kathleen Kennedy and Bob Eiger...
@@aldunlop4622 That's the fifth wall, actually.
@@DarthSidian ok, I learned something…
Death's Head worked for the TVA, not Deadpool. Deadpool's fourth wall breaking means he should be in his own universe, as that fourth wall breaking prevents anything from being serious.
More people will watch this video than some Disney movies.
I'm concerned about it too. But after learning that R.R. wasn't going through with Deadpool 3 because of the same concern we had (the MCU basically) and suddenly announcing the next title on the franchise claiming he were given the reins, I got a bit of hope for it. Plus, Hugh Jackman is of the same mentality. Also Reynolds become fascinated by Deadpool comics, hinting on a abbreviate (like last movie) approach to Deadpool story arc. I really hope it goes through like this. If so, the box office will show the results and being very very hopeful, we can get to the Deadpool arc where he tear down the 4th wall going after the writers branding them as villains for all the shit he goes through.
In the comics, Wolverine was supposed to be undercover because the X-Men was supposedly disbanded during that time. I forgot his undercover name , but that's probably gonna be a very minute part in the movie where Wade offs the wrong person or brings Logan from hiding.
His alias was Patch, it’s when he wore an eye patch on his eye like Nick Fury after an injury which he had sustained but kept it after he gained the nickname Patch. So that’s who Deadpool may be forcing out into the spot light
@@NikolaiHowlett Yep, "Patch" in Madripor. In my country, they translated to "one-eyed". Either way, it's one of the many "versions" of Wolverine. I guess they will show Daniel Radcliff playing this role just for the laughs, to imagine him dressed as Wolverine with a patch on his eye, it's so pathetic, I am laughing already
Which comic
Opening narration. "Hi Deadpool here. I wasn't sure if I was going to get another movie, but after Disney's shares dropped they needed a hero to save the day."
I’m praying this is the opening dialog 😂😂
Better news, is Ryan, Hugh, and Shawn Levi as well as the writers, all rebelled against Disney and Marvel to get this done.
This is first movie im going to see in theaters since 2019. it better be good.
Yea they for sure rebelled against the fat checks. How about get real and stop believing fantasy stories and Hollywood legends?
@@John-Xfirst superhero movie in general since the dissapointment that was dr strange2
Marvel died with Stan Lee. Its only Disney.
@@alfasilverblade even with Stan Lee Marvel was on life support.Comics and some of the Marvel movies were plain or forgettable
If anything can kill Deadpool, it's disney.
I know they would never even think about doing it, but: Marvel could use the "Deadpool kills the Marvel Universe" plotline from the comics to clean house and start from scratch. If this movie does extremely well and Marvel/Disney finally come back to their senses, there might be a chance to follow up with an Avengers style culmination movie where Deadpool goes on a rampage and just kills everyone. Again, I doubt it will ever happen, mostly because the majority of actors wouldn't be on board with it and even if they would, Disney probably couldn't pay them all. But it's nice to think about the possibility. And who knows, maybe OpenAI's new Text to Video model will just generate a movie like that in 5 years. A man can dream.
At this point, Disney is using up the last of their "nostalgia" tricks. And frankly, it seems to be the only way they can get a decent hit nowadays. Anything else is just a bomb.
..are you saying this like its a bad thing? Like bro theyre doing this because its what we WANT to see; not any of these unfunny low level heroes pandering to communities and politics irl. Getting mad at a studio for running back to things that worked doesnt really make any sense.. like in the slightest
Sad that people are falling for it
They have to use a fox franchise to save them it's over
@@echo_z319 I disagree. Disney is using nostalgia solely because it leads to more profit. They are looking at Hugh Jackman as a form of "Brand Recognition" to promote their product (a film). From a business standpoint, that makes perfect since. But this is a film, and what I really care about is the art and quality. That's why I'm more nervous about this film. Disney seems to value Hugh Jackman's brand recognition more than the legacy left by Logan, a great film. What else are they willing to do to eek out more profit?
@@Trewq79yup this movie seems cautious to me Very unpredictable Like if they use it for just cameos thrn sure it would be disappointment
3:24 idk if you called him Loki on purpose or not but either way 👏👏😂
I was going nuts thinking I was the only one who caught that.
Caught that too, was going to make that comment. Glad someone else caught it too.
it also has the most important thing about action movies at its heart... being FUN.
Disney is more desperate for Deadpool than vice versa, they HAVE to let him poke fun at Marvel. Disney has no leverage against him.
I remember when everyone said there was no way Mark Hamill would let Disney destroy Luke Skywalker.
@fakecubed as much as I hate to disagree, You're right. I really want this Deadpool movie to be good.
You underestimate the PAUWAH of the woke-side.
@@fakecubedmark tried his best. But ultimately ryan has more power here than mark had.
@@fakecubed To be fair, Mark Hamill kind of laid into them after the fact. Maybe not the greatest result, but it was clear that he was on the fans' side.
What I find most interesting about the Disney hiring writers with Rick and Morty experience and going down the multiverse route, is that a core theme in R&M is the nihilism and loss of consequences that comes from the existence of a multiverse. It works for Deadpool, but not for stories where you actually want to have heroes and stakes.
Rick and Morty sucked. I tried watching it 3x. It’s terrible. Baffling that it took til now for many to admit this
Wait who is it? Scott and rob? Who wrote on always sunny???? Please lol
@@ransakreject5221yeah, I tried one time, and hated it. South Park has been the only "adult animation" I've enjoyed, with some early family guy, Archer, and Simpsons being honorable mentions.
@@GoldenWolf115 Archer was so good! I not sure when it fell off, but I stopped watching as well.
Good take. The nihilism of R&M is an unspoken character.
Hearing the Drinker be cautiously optimisitc for a modern Marvel project gives me hope for the future.
Well I'm looking forward to it. A lot for the reasons you described, but also Deadpool always seemed to be about just having fun and not taking itself too seriously.
"Finally I can feel represented on screen". That'll be a contender for the best Drinker quote of 2024.
True representation.
right lol
The fact we can see the destroyed 20th Century Fox logo in the background of some scenes is kinda sad and amazing at the same time.
It means they're going to rake Fox and its universe over the coals throughout the entire movie
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I have this thought running through my head on repeat "Please be good Please be good Please be good......."
Deadpool will be the new Ironman
If Deadpool sees the script of the previous movies after Avengers 4, He would kill the entire universe again.
That’d be a good plot to delete the prev marvel universe if I had creative control I might do that lol. Buuuut I’d find a way to keep moon knight lol
He already blew his own brains out for creating The Green Lantern... Disney will be fair game.
God they should
Could he just do all the Disney employees involved with Epstein island?
You said "Loki is recruited by the TVA", when I think you meant Deadpool was.
Tbf, Deadpool is more a god of mischief than current Loki 😂
Loki eventually was recruited if I'm not mistaken.
@@SteveHooks Yes, but this is about Deadpool. Deadpool was on the screen, and what he described was stuff Deadpool was doing.
And this is why we don't drink and Vlog kids.
It was a joke that seemed pretty obvious to me and made me laugh. 🤷♂️ but please keep up the pointless condescending corrections, people love that.
"try not to fuck it up"......"aye, there's the rub,"
"Saving the MCU" at this point would not only require 1 good movie, but 10 bangers. I'm not seeing that happening within the next 30 years.
And only if they are released in 10+ years ....not 5 every year
O ye of little faith
If you’re between the ages of 20-45 you’ve already seen at least 4 different superhero eras come and go, you’ll be fine lmao
there's nothing really wrong with the foundation of the mcu. there is no story after Armageddon. so fine they flipped the script on god. now what? they hadn't thought about it. they'll sort it out. people still love great cgi in service to great writing.
No way home and guardians 3 were the only bangers in the last few years imo. I think Deadpool 3 will be good.
Going from how terribly Deadpool was handled in Origins: Wolverine to how great the first Deadpool movie was and how Ryan Reynolds acknowledged it and did right by the fans and has treated this character with so much passion is my favorite storyline of all.
Then Deadpool 2 came out and was...not good. It had some decent moments, but overall was not good and it started getting Woke...there have been signs this one will continue that trend, which sucks because Deadpool has been my favorite character since the original Marvel Ultimate Alliance game.
@@justinlast2lastharder749”started getting woke” y’know deadpool himself has been pansexual in the comics for like 15+ years and that in the first two films they already made plenty of jokes about him goin both ways
@@justinlast2lastharder749 How the heck did deadpool 2 start getting woke? 😂😂
Domino is white ...not a black afro girl. Don't embarrass yourself by picking ONE thing to argue. Like 9y old
Woke doesnt mean g@y you mooron @varietyspiderpage
The problem is that it is only a trailer. We all figured Argylle would focus on Henry Cavill's character and we saw how that went.
Did you ever watch the argylle trailer? It was so obvious Henry Cavill would only be in it for a little bit of time since the trailer made it clear all the scenes with him are in Bryce Dallas Howard’s fictional world 🤦🏽♂️ that’s your own damn fault for not having any kind of brains whatsoever. The trailer made it so obvious Bryce Dallas Howard and sam Rockwell were the leads
If they switched up to following Domino, that could be fun.
@@Stevarooninaw she's lame
Yeah but do you really expect that to be the case here?
_Teaser_ Trailer, at the risk of being pedantic, which really only exemplifies your point. I while can't say I'd hold it against anyone for being _cautiously_ optimistic for this movie, having exceptions any higher than that after only a teaser is indeed highly naive if not incredibly foolish.
You summed up the situation pretty well, Drinker! While I’m a huge fan of Jackman’s Wolverine, he’s sort of too old to play the part now…of course, I would LOVE one last performance, no matter his age, but I’m rather wary…I’d prefer to remember him fondly as he was in his glory days than possibly see him as Wolverine in less than ideal circumstances. However, I do have a lot of faith in Reynolds, as long as they let him keep creative control of this new “Deadpool” movie. I dunno, the trailer has me all optimistic and hopeful. Just PLEASE don’t eff this up!
For the first time ever, you have uttered something that I actually do not agree with: I thought Deadpool 2 was way better than the first and I really liked the first. Everything else you said I feel the same way on. I hope the TVA though is just like the opening before the credits and Deadpool still just murders them all, escaping into a portal and the last living TVA agent puts a lock on wherever he goes with his dying breath, effectively locking him away from the rest of the MCU. They did a sort of bait and switch move like that in D2 when you thought the whole movie was going to have X-Force in it. I'm still worried. I've been worried ever since Disney got their vile hands on Fox.
You’re sadly mistaken.
I love both as well but I definitely prefer 2.
Yeah, that plane scene from Deadpool 2 had me and my friends on the floor
2nd one was way better, first one is overrated
2nd has too much forced upon ''diversity''... and they massively downgraded The Juggernaut. Who is no mutant. @@Theycallmethek3
Destroy. Cause other films can't do what this does.
Nah let's be patient, pegging is for Disney not for Deadpool
@@grimsobad8545other way around
Considering that this is the most awaited MCU movie since No Way Home, they can't miss and they know it. Also, Reynolds and Jackman were heavily involved, and they are much more passionate than other MCU actors we've seen for the past years
I think they can miss, but I don't think it will unless they will milk the Loki stuff to much.
@@StandardName562it's just the tva i doubt they will mention any of the plot of the loki series they are using the tva so deadpool can travel through the multiverse i doubt they will be that relevant and just be generic bad guys hopefully i dont even think any of the cast of loki will be in this movie maybe a small cameo of loki or mobius
They're going to miss. Already introducing the TVA and multiverse is a bad sign.
@@georgejones5019 true but multiverses can be good if done right and i hope this can do it right unlike the flash, doctor strange MOM and loki s1 and s2
I'd rather see Death's Head versus Deadpool.
I feel the same way. When I watched the trailer, I groaned when the TVA showed up. But the rest looks solid. We will see.
I have a feeling we've seen all the best content in the trailer....that TVA dross from the MCU is a major turn off though
What if Deadpool finds the panderstone?! 😮
wait till he gets the continuity stone
So this movie could actually save the MCU and gross 3 billion dollars at the box office
If it's literally called that I'd watch it
If they did
@@Fer_A_Lnot 3 billion but definitely 1-1.5 billion 😂😂😂😂
Over a decade later and it's STILL mindblowing that Orgins Deadpool was a thing that happened, "Yeah lets take a known wise guy to the point he's literally called the Merc With A Mouth and let's remove his fucking mouth" like ehat the actual fuck
in the post credit they actually undo the mouth thing, they tease a darker deadpool
@@Spillow-Cyeah but they already screw UP bit Time with that "first impression".
@@norbertodominguez1033I mean I like him in the task force X flash back with the 5 minutes of screen time he had before they closed his mouth
That is Weapon X and there is a reason why he has his mouth shut it is because of striker to say weapon X is Deadpool would be inaccurate like calling the falcon captain America is incorrect
It kinda made sense for a one off movie gag, he was allowed to crack jokes until the 3rd act and they actually said that they were so annoyed with his joking around which is WHY they sewed his mouth shut. They didn't see him as an important reusable character, just a one-off villain for the final fight. It makes sense. It's a desecration, but it makes logical sense.
Disney has the cash for a SB ad?! That's the real bomb in this story!
How to fix the Sin City Sequel: A Dame to Kill For. Just throwing ideas out there. Keep up the good work Drinker
I have this weird suspicion Jackman's Wolverines are gonna all be variants, their screen time is not going to be this long in the end, and it's a smokescreen to recast the Wolverine, and the one Deadpool ends up with in his timeline is going to be played by a different actor
I am unsure about that. Jackman has been fairly serious about hanging up the claws...surely it would take more than a glorified cameo to get him back, plus the guy has been in the gym again for months.
Yes a female version if I guess...more smarter and stronger most likely.
Nope. If they tried that kind of bait and switch crap after how they've portrayed the "return of wolverine" thus far, there would be MASSIVE backlash. No one wants to see wolverine recast, and when you say "Wolverine" people expect Hugh Jackman. Period. and they will accept nothing less.
@sarkastodon30 Reynolds would never allow that to happen. He is too shrewd and smart for that. If Disney/Marvel fuck us on this. May as well close up shop and call it a day. If they cant make a film starring Reynolds as Deadpool and Jacko as fricken Wolverine a hit, because they want to bait and switch and stick in pandering characters, then its all done and they have wasted billions securing these properties.
Likely a female, note that with Disney that does not preclude a trans female to promote "The Message."
"You got the Drinker's interest, Deadpool. Just try not to fuck it up now." Sounded like a proper villain's threat. Good stuff!
It lost MY interest. Deadpool 1 & 2 were garbage, but the attempt to throw in the TVA is truly garbage. The TVA is just a pathetic attempt to POLICE time travel/the multiverse, which is so brain damaged.
Please review Saltburn. And also maybe true detective s4
Dead Pool time jumping in comics is legendary hopefully they go that route
Still won’t save the MSheU. After all, Spider-Man: No Way Home was a great movie and it too didn’t save the MSheU.
The MCU doesn't need to be saved.. It had a good and solid run.. Let it die with its wokeness.. All I want is for this one to be a good solid standalone film just like Spider-Man: No Way Home and GOTG3..
Spiderman 3 suck Is nostalgia bait i understand you because DaFoe Carry the acting and the fights But Holland sucks his GF also and ALL the plot is MEEHHH even the Death of the aunt . . .
NWH has the same problems of all movies of phase 4 and 5. You was just blinded by nostalgia.
@@Morfe02i disagree, its a good movie.
Yea it was a very mediocre movie. Solid 5/10. Only thing good about it was the return of other spidermen and goblin @@Morfe02
Even if Deadpool 3 will be good, it's really doubtful it'll save the MCU at this point.
Yes, only one movie can't be good, the next lineups should also be good, the oy good ones I look forward is F4, Shang Chi 2, Spider man 4, Blade and Daredevil
Well said as always Drinker, well said
3:26 "Loki is recruited by the TVA" ? Is that right? Apart from that good summary
There is loads online about both main actors refusing to be part of the promotion because the 3rd act has been totally changed and interfered with. So I think we will be happy for an hour and then very unhappy for the rest of the film, if that plays out
Yeh, but then back in reality Ryan Reynolds literally posted this to his personal social profiles and Hugh Jackman has also posted about it from personal profiles so they're clearly both participating
Oh no 😮😮😮😮 I am a Deadpool fan and was skeptical when I learned it would be under Disney but hope was restored when it was R rated and Jackman reprised without compromising the Logan ending... Now reading your comment that the third act is rumored to have been changed and main actors protested promoting the movie 😢😢😢😢
I didnt see it
I've been hearing similar rumors. Been hearing that Ryan Reynolds has been fighting with Disney/Marvel execs over the direction of the movie for months. Reynolds knows how to make a Deadpool movie work while Disney/Marvel can't get their sh*t together. Iger, Feige & the other execs need to listen to Reynolds if they want a respite from failure.
If the source is some guy on KZhead who's making up rumours for engagement I'd probably ignore it...@@Gojirastar5477
One cog can’t fix a broken assembly belt
no but it could break the fourth wall and reset the MCU by destroying the Fegiebot (She-Hulk). They won't do it but Disney has given themselves an out.
We need a cog of duty, modern warfare to win this battle.
Yep
No but a wrecking ball could give way to some kind of a do-over... "Deadpool kills the Marvel Universe" may not be canon, but Deadpool going full on *_Exterminatus_* on the MCU should be.
Deadpool contributes a huge cog to the embly, though.
Someone shits pants in film. "Finally, I can feel represented on screen."🤣
Glorious analogy!
All we need now is Dredd II.
I would love to see a Dredd streaming show, one in which they expand the world of Mega-City One and the Cursed Earth. I’d like it to have a serious tone like the movie but with more of the sci-fi elements from the comics, like mutants and robots.
Is it?
Only if it is like the original Dredd. Not the horrible reboot one.
@@TheSd1cko Okay. 🤪
@@1inchPunchBowlhe wants Stallone
"Pegging isn't anything new to me. But it is for Disney." then looked at the camera with a grin. That line cracked me up.
It destroyed me. My father taught me pegging in one on one sessions. I’m gay actor Michael Douglas.
@@mrmagoozle FUCK yeah, dude! That RULES!!
I get the impression that current-day Disney is more familiar with “pegging” than you may think.
I don't get it
That line sold me. I replayed the trailer just to watch it again.
…”GOTG…that can’t really be further exploited down the line.” -Drinker Me: “Have we learned nothing yet?”
The sad part is that the lesson won't be learned as you said. Guardians 3 is a good example, a movie that made us laugh, cry, cheer… All within a 2-hour runtime. But just like that, Marvel followed up with the trash projects. Might be due to the fact that these movies are all in production at the same time, so they can't learn from their return on experience. I don't think the entire MCU can follow the Deadpool formula as it is very specific to the character, but here's hoping they realize what fans want to see and what they don't. Maybe their recent brush with mortality can serve as a lesson that even the most mindless of flocks will eventually stop following if the quality drops this low
"Don't do that. don't give me hope."
It cruel really
of course ppl in the comments missed drinker calling DP Loki LOL......
Double penetration?
"I sure hope someone was fired for that blunder..."
Lmaooo i heard it!
when?
3:25
That's kind of how I look at it too. At best, the MCU is a sinking ship and Deadpool is that one survivor who reaches the surface in a final gasp at air that makes you hope that someone survived before they are sucked down into the dark abyss below.
Kevin Fiege has a huge piece of the pie in the MCU. He & Disney have that absurd committee that has to go through them before a project can move forward. Props to Ryan and his writers for holding strong against Disney.
3:25 “Loki is recruited by the TVA” lmao did anyone else notice that
I did. 😅
Yep - was waiting for the punchline/correction but it never came. One for the Drinker blooper reel!
To be fair, deadpool makes for a more compelling God of mischief. But yeah, probably a gaffe
.wooow drinker living up to his name
I did😂
"I wasn't unconscious." . There's the old Deadpool back!
I thought he was going to say "and who pissed my pants?"
ALL of these movies have fake fighting that is simply Japanese samurai movie fights. These battles are all about choreography not fighting. I was a trained sword fighter from 1968 to retirement. I did medieval fighting, I did European dueling fighting, I also did 'live battles against criminals' when NYC and California were collapsing into total chaos. None of these 'super hero' battles are realistic, they are stupid. NEVER spin around or turn your back on whom you are fighting! NEVER. You have to keep your eye on the ball: never look away! This is when the other can step in and kill.
@emsnewssupkis6453 i dont disagree with you but uhhhhhh what?
@@emsnewssupkis6453????? Huh? 😅
@@ahwayzcool4630 Ergo: all the 'fights' in these movies is dumb. No real fighter EVER spins around when fighting! You can't see anything while spinning!!!! This is called 'keep your eye on the ball' and seasoned fighters know this.
cautiously optimistic. If I don't see anything that makes me think it'll suck, i'll actually watch it in the cinema and it's nice to have films to look forward to for once!
Ashes is in my top 10 playlist.
I'm very (edit: ok,mostly) optimistic, mainly because Reynolds has managed to to do something that is pretty singular in the modern film industry. He owns a hugely popular character in the most important way: with the fans. Legal/studio ownership be damned, Ryan IS deadpool. He's smart enough to know what he's got, patient enough not to squander it, and ballsey enough to give the studios the occasional tactical nudge. The fact that the MCU and supes in general are down has just forced the rat to be more willing to bend. Can it go wrong? Sure. Can the studio find new and invetive ways to pooch it? Sure. But im hoping they have the brains to let him do his thing. Deadpool in the comics was always supposed to be marvel poking fun at itself. If they let that continue, I'm very hopeful, at least for this little nook of the multiverse.
Great comment. Reynolds 'owning' the character 'with the fans' may explain rumours that he demanded complete creative control.
@@Noodles.Doodles hell yeah. I hadn't heard that particular rumor, but I sure hope it's true.
@@blackc1479 IMDB is showing Ryan as writer with another guy who worked on previous Deadpool films and among other things Zombieland. No obvious 20 years old creative wonderwomen seem to to be attached to this so hopefully the script will be more than a few sentences scribbled on a napkin. ... as is the common practice with Marvel projects these days. Then again, it is always about people who pay the production. Henry was good for Witcher but the end product is beyond tragic.
You say that, yet Deadpool 2 was hot garbage with clear studio control and pandering.
The last Deadpool flick had some SJW talking points in it so I don't have much hope for Reynolds.
Unlike pretty much everyone else in comic fandom, I have ALWAYS been terrified of the prospect of a Deadpool movie coming from Disney. Maybe we'll get lucky and they'll adopt a completely hands-off approach and let Ryan Reynolds do his own thing. But that sadly, probably, won't be the case. I hope like hell that I am wrong, but I am currently of the mindset that whatever Disney is going to offer up to us, is going to be unrecognizable compared to the first two movies in this side franchise.
I don't think Ryan Reynolds would stand for that. I'm pretty sure I read that he fired a complete female X-Men cast for one of the after credits scenes, because he didn't like an all female X-Men cast in his movie.
i have to aggree with you, feel the trailer is probibly the sum of the "creative freedom" Ryan would have been given to honest. Wont be surprised if we see some C-tier female superheroine be introduced and to show the two "straight white men" in Deadpool and Wolverine that "they are dinosaurs" and "check their white privledge". Hell Disney might make the blind neighbour of wolverine into a superheroine and team her up with Echo, imagine the thought provoking conversations both of them would have
I mean, Ryan Reynolds is credited as a writer so he has at least some control in the project.
A valid concern, but recall that Ryan Reynolds utterly refused to let Fox interfere creatively with deadpool 1 and they slashed his budget by something like 60% (don't quote me on numbers - it was a lot). It then went on to sell gangbusters. The long delay in deadpool 3 might have been the same narrative playing out over in the house of mouse. I 100% believe that RR would walk away from the roll of deadpool if iger and company wanted to shove the pander stone up his backdoor. Obviously - can't guarantee anything. That's just my 0.02
Reynolds really strikes me as the kind of guy who would have refused the project entirely if he didn't have some controlling level of influence over its direction- not for this property
I don't see the inclusion of the TVA being much of an issue, seeing as it played a rather prominent role in the Deadpool comics and it'll likely be explained just well enough to make sense in the flick for folks who aren't fans of the books and also haven't watched Loki. Disney's insistence on forcing the message into their superhero movies is a concern of course, but the inclusion of the TVA is the least of the film's concerns given the precedent in the books for its inclusion. There's plenty to be cautiously optimistic about, but time will tell.
03:25 Was the "Loki" slip intentional or not ? 🤔
The last time i got my hopes up for Disney when they announced an exciting reunion of two wonderful actors reprising their most iconic roles was Kenobi.... i'm reserving a lot of skepticism.
The thing with Kenobi is that it was always meant to screw up the OT. We know from Obi/Luke's Luke/Uncle Owen's dialogue scenes that Obi spent 20 years in the desert watching over Luke. That's it. We never needed anything more from Obi in between RotS and ANH, we needed Obi and Qui-Gon before TPM.
Well at least KKK has nothing to do with this movie. She's busy trying to get Rey back.
The difference there was that there was little reason to trust Kathleen Kennedy and Lucasfilm given their track record. Reynolds and Levy deserve the benefit of the doubt if they're given enough creative control. Also, the Kenobi show was always gonna have issues with pissing all over canon with the rumors of an Obi-Wan/Vader rematch(which unfortunately came to fruition). They made it infinitely worse by making young Leia the sidekick instead of Luke and inserting the awful Reva character and her nonsensical arc, but the entire foundation of that series was problematic.
@@doughbafett I want to believe in Marvel Jesus, I really do. But this is still going to be connected to Disney Marvel, and has already shown itself to be linked with the Loki series. It CAN be great, but it’s not impossible it could suck just as well. I haven’t gone to an opening night showing for anything coming out of Hollywood for years now. I plan to wait until after I hear good reviews from sources who aren’t shills before I pay to watch anything Disney again. Fingers crossed that they get it right this time. 🤞
YES. I want prequel prequels. Show me young Mace Windu and Qui-Gon navigating their lives as padawans and the politics of the council
Disney will probably fuck it up.
Definitely
You have a point, if this film is a disappointed or bad then there's no recovery at this point. This isn't a life saver for the MCU, but a start to recovery if captain America 4 isn't a disaster.
Only film I care about right now is a quiet place day one. That shit gonna be the new world war z we got last decade
I JUST HOPE DISNEY DOESN'T RUIN FORTNITE
@@elimejia5749Captain America 4 is going to be boycotted by audiences across the world due to a certain character.
3:25 You mean Deadpool, not Loki.
I watch all the Loki TV shows, so I'm hoping Deadpool will tie everything together, and clean up everything that went wrong with MCU.
Really didn't want to see the TVA again
Feel like with kang being let go the tva is probably going to be the main antagonist force for a while
100% right, I get a physical kneejerk reaction and gaging just talking about it.
Amen
If Deadpool can kill the entire Marvel universe, the TVA should be super easy, barely an inconvenience.
Exactly. They seem to think its a positive.
My guess it will be a mild high point in the MCU, like Guardians 3 was.
Guardians 3 was a marvel of cinema
GoTG3 was amazing the difference is that DP3 is going to directly lead into other movies like Avengers vs X Men and Secret Wars.
Really? I thought Guardians 3 sucked. It was about half an hour too long and turned Adam Warlock into a complete joke.
@@madprophetus Bro, are you serious? Guardians 3 was the best movie in the series.
@@thenintendork665 It was amazing. Granted I am not a Marvel purist so Adam Warlock being shitty didn't bother me.
Comics explained basically gave you a shout out in his most recent video!
I have no excitement for this. The greatest bait and switch of all time. The trailer has Reynolds poking fun at Marvel just to con us all into the trap.
That Jackman showed his age in Logan was on purpose. Im not saying you wont see it in Deadpool, you just didnt choose the best example for this.
Rev’ up the roid machine baby!!! 💪💉💊
Yeah jackman was digitally altered to appear 20 years older than he was
Jackman's look has changed(particularly in terms of physique) so much during these films that you have to just disregard it.
You miss the point. Jackman as an actor and man LOOKED OLD AS SHIT outside that movie few years prior and even more since. You clearly do not follow him or watch his films. He looks like shit, way older than 55 in the face. He looked very decrepitly old in the 2013 and 2014 films too, but Logan was way worse(as the young X23 even)
I remember reading that the younger clone version of himself was actually just him normally and Logan had to get aged up lol so yeah, he'll be fine
“he was showing his age in logan” 😭 that’s the point he was playing an older character
Facts lmao Jackman had tons of makeup on to make him look like shit. He was still in incredible shape. The guy’s been training almost consistently for over 20 years, the muscle memory probably took over very quickly
And they can just give him lady-Thor style CGI muscles. Why get into shape at all?
@@diomedes7971Incorrect, it's not a lifestyle for Jackman, it's a role. He's said it himself in the past, it's becoming more difficult to put on the muscle he needs for the role because that's not his natural body type, he's tall, lanky, and lean, not muscle bound. He's also said that he was looking forward to retiring from the role because training beats his body up too much and it's harder to recover from it, due to age.
Here’s a thought: maybe they made a movie with an older Wolverine because Hugh Jackman was showing his age.
jackman doesnt look old, the dude is fuckin old, he is almost 60@@Luke101
Deadpool was indeed refreshing amidst the overly dramatic superhero movies. Concerns about how Disney might handle Deadpool and Wolverine are valid, yet there is still hope for a good mix of irreverent humor and action. Fingers crossed they don't mess it up!
I've actually got 2 Ryan Reynolds films in my collection. One is GREEN LANTERN, which turned out to be possibly my all-time favorite "DC" movie, and was genuinely better than 95% of the comics the character ever appeared in. If it didn't include that STUPID cliffhanger leading into a sequel that never got made (GRRR) it might have been perfect. So I have no idea why most people insisted it sucked. The other is DICK, where he has a cameo as a dumb guy making out with Kirsten Dunst. One of the funniest movies I've ever seen. I love how the trailer describes it as "The ALMOST-true story" of Watergate. Even my Dad enjoyed it, and he was a Nixon fan!
One movie can not undo so many mistakes.
It’s not that serious
@@Luke101 it is for Disney they've took hundreds of millions of dollars in losses from the last few movies and their stock is half of what it used to be😂😂
unduly so
*undo Is a four-letter word really so difficult to spell?
The only way to do this right would be to do Deadpool 3 in a way that seems completely unrelated to the MCU. Just a standalone story with no MCU characters or concepts in it, but maybe a few jokes at its expense. In fact, opening monologue Deadpool should explicitly say the film won't require a bunch of outside knowledge or relate to the MCU at all. Then, and only after audiences have learned to trust Disney again, do a Deadpool 4 that ties in closer to the MCU. They really need to go all the way back to the beginning, when there was a loose collection of pre-Avengers films with disparate superheroes and the slight suggestion in the end credits scene that maybe they will do something together somehow in the future. Disney's instinct to immediately tie everything closely together in obvious, blatant ways, is why they haven't been able to make a good MCU movie in many, many, many years. Focus on telling individual, isolated stories, that are actually entertaining and don't relate to some massive all-encompassing storyline, and people will actually show up to watch. Anything else just means audiences have to do a bunch of homework, and they're unwilling or unable to do that, so they won't watch the new stuff, or won't understand it if they do. The only audiences Disney can have with this are the trained seals who will clap at literally anything, and they're a small, and shrinking demographic. Disney isn't capable of making good decisions with this because they've invested so much money on their crappy streaming shows and a bunch of crappy movies with superheroes nobody cares about or ever heard of before. They need to drive more people to Disney+ somehow, and their strategy is to make everything tie in with that Disney+ exclusive content. It's just the sunk cost fallacy at this point. Instead of decanonizing everything from the streaming service and shutting it down for good, they will never stop trying to make it relevant and essential viewing for people who just want a good standalone story at the movie theater with superheroes they know and love.
With all due respect, Drinker, you can’t destroy something that’s already been destroyed
Kathleen Kennedy: Challenge accepted
@@quicksilver753 (it’s a joke ik) but I suppose with her, she’s still destroying certain characters as opposed to Star Wars as a whole
But you can still salt the earth and desecrate it with your bodily fluids.
My biggest problem. Is that in every shot you see in the trailer, Deadpools outfit is clean. Somespots of dirt here and there, yet nothing showing any dangerous actions taken onto deadpool. If the first actual damage he takes is wolverine stabbing him at the last scene of the trailer, we can easily expect a loss for deadpools biggest ability. It seems like its just going to be a goofy merc kills alot of people (hitmans bodyguard) type of movie. Especially with the dull introduction of the wolverine. My guess would be they fight a hulk together...
3:43 …..just realised is that the fox logo in the back ground…… half buried huh
I wish we got R rated Venom.
Me too, but instead we got venom (4/10) and venom 2 (3/10)
Deadpool and venom!
@@yeahboy7465NO NO,Venom 2 was a 1/10,and absolutely shambles of a Carnage representation;I’m actually in shock that THATS what they came out with-plus why the hell was Venom in a underground rave? That’s just not needed
Not only the rating but they made Venom a joke machine and idiot.
@@thechosenone93 the only 2 things i liked about part 2 is that is short (thank god) and woody harrelson (not even his character, just the actors presence)
Deadpool and Wolverine will be a fun ride, but I seriously doubt Marvel wants to course correct at this point. I’m fine with just watching the movie and forgetting the MCU even exists again.
no sir, if they do this right.....and that's a MASSIVE IF......they could get people roped in again to prepare for the big Secret Wars event in a couple years. There's potential to get those of us who have given up on the MCU back on the train, but I still remain very, very cautiously optimistic. They still have to find a way to get RDJ and Evans back for at least those Secret Wars movies. Without them, it just feels like it won't work.
Wait to see the movie when it’s free.
@@patrickoakley7890 The only real hope is the takeover.
@@patrickoakley7890 what are you talking about? jesus christ give it up already, marvel died a long time ago
@@zSion they're not dead until they stop making movies. I'm giving them one more chance.
This might be out of pocket, but i highly encourage you to watch X-Men 97. it's like the anti-streaming show. episodes contain things that you would expect to be stretched out for an entire season. There's 6 out of ten episodes released now, but theyre fairly self-contained, while still having decent hooks for next week's episode.
The problem with 4th-wall breaking humour is that it doesn't work when it's done in criticism of something people hate. It works when it's done in celebration of something people love. That bit at the start about Deadpool 1 being a breath of fresh air in a tired MCU formula in *2016* is some absolute top-tier revisionist history. 2016 was peak MCU. Captain America Civil War and Doctor Strange were released that year and were both incredibly well received. The following year had Guardians 2, Spiderman: Homecoming, and Thor: Ragnarok. All colossally successful as well. Deadpool 1 came into the scene and said "boy, superhero movies can be a bit silly can't they?" and people laughed along because a lot of that stuff is also why we love them. She Hulk's 4th wall breaking didn't work because it was criticizing instead of celebrating. That kind of 4th wall breaking just comes across as preachy, self-serving, and egotistical. It doesn't make you laugh, it just makes you roll your eyes and feel the writers really love the smell of their own shit because the whole thing comes across as one big self-pat on the back. Especially because the meta-commentary is done via parody that necessarily exaggerates the premise that it's poking fun at, which when taken as actual critique quickly falls foul of being strawmanned. If Deadpool 3 plans to wink-wink-nudge-nudge say "isn't the MCU awful now? wouldn't it be better if it was like THIS?" it will fail horribly. Even though I absolutely think the MCU *IS* awful now. You don't fix that by just acknowledging it as a joke because all that says is that you KNOW what you are producing is shit but you're doing it anyway. (That's probably the case, but still a dumb thing to admit.) I normally like your analysis of things and think you're spot on, and more fair than most other YT MCU critics. But this one doesn't feel very fair to me.
I thought lots of Internet, gossip last week on KZhead was talking about how Disney already goofed it up. They shot opening scenes of wolverine, fighting in different wars, which Jackman, Reynolds, and everybody were very excited about because they were cool scenes, and they set up the rest of the movie. Then Disney head Bob Iger decided to cut all that out because he wants a kid friendly movie. Could he get worse? Then he wanted to write and shoot a fight scene between wolverine and the X-Men but all the X-Men have their genders reversed. I think Jackman and Reynolds refused to reshoot that. They're also boycotting interviews with any entity owned by Disney. Those are the rumors online, I don't know if they're true or not but I've been telling everybody else I know.
Wait.... Any of that sounds legit to you? That sounds more like "forever victims" having a fever dream about what would make them the most victimized of all the victims. Disney has really run themselves into the ground if people can take THIS kind of comment seriously.
Mate yes it’s fucking modern day marvel of course this sounds like it’s possible not saying it will be but yes it defo in the realms of possibility with how they are at the minute
@@danelynch7171you haven't been paying attention lil bro.
"I don't know if they're true or not but I've been telling everybody I know." Sounds legit. 🤣🤣🤣
"We bought up the rights to _Deep Throat_ but we want to sell to the tweens crowd. So no sex on-screen, we have to make it woke, and the lead will be a trans female."
I still say that Final Fantasy and Dragon Quest understand how to do the multiverse the best. Only connect them in non-canon spin-offs.
I think, along with this, the multiverse from the Witcher books and games is done well. The 'Conjunction of Spheres' was really well done.
That’s only partially true. Some games do directly reference others, specifically DQ 11 and its connections to DQ 3. Now if you mean specifically having characters meeting? Then yeah I agree it’s good
Seriously I get excited and intrigued when a Final Fantasy game is announced because I know it will be a self contained plot with (likely) well written characters. Only drawback is their multiverse titles (Dissidia) aren’t that good and the only great one was a gaucha title for mobile devices…and it’s going to be discontinued in a couple weeks for seemingly no reason.
@@MarcusTalks123 I mainly play Final Fantasy, and it was my understanding that Dragon Quest was the same in that numbered entries were never in the same universe.
@@michaeloverton04 I’ve only played 11 and most of 7 so far. But I have a good bit of knowledge about the series. And while yes a lot of it follows the disconnected format. I’d say it falls somewhere between Zelda and Final fantasy in terms of how they write the stories. Since they aren’t afraid to mention events and other things from other games in the series that may have happened at a different point in time. But mainly talking about them as old legends
I trust your judgement and Im very unhappy with how Disney have put other agendas before good story telling. I will happily wait for the verdict before going to watch Deadpool to avoid giving support to Disney if they decided to also ruin Deadpool. I hope they do it well, I truly do, so let see.
Reynolds got complete freedom of control on this, so I'm gonna be cautiously optimistic... I recall that he and Jackman threw a fit when the writers guild tried to stop them from ad-libbing his own script during the writers strike, because they called it editorial writing... He ended up winning that argument REAL FAST... 👁👄👁
Recently Marvel has been hiring people that don’t give a shit about the characters and it’s very obvious from the finished product, like Thor 4, The Marvels, etc. Shawn Levy is directing this and his track record is really damn good. He’s made multiple movies with Reynolds and did Real Steel with Jackman which is such a great underrated film, not to mention he’s been heavily involved in Stranger Things. Ryan Reynolds also cares so deeply for Deadpool, and I trust his involvement in this to assure it will be good at the very least. The trailer captured the Deadpool energy really well, and knowing the character, the movie will probably poke fun at how reliant on nostalgia and cameos modern entertainment has become. Marvel isn’t incapable of putting out good stuff. No Way Home and Guardians 3 were both fucking great. You just need people who are passionate about the work writing and directing these things.
No Way Home was a product of fanservice with cheap cameos of the previous iterations of Spiderman. Don't compare it with something as goofy yet serious as Guardians 3.
@desai7652 Bullshit. No Way Home was the antithesis of cheap cameos. Nearly every returning character was given a full supporting role with substance instead of just popping in for a quick scene. The rooftop conversation between all 3 Spider-Men bonding over their trauma and then working together is one of the best spidey scenes ever. The way Dafoe was utilized was brilliant. The first half of NWH was a mess but the last half was stellar. That movie also finally sold me on Tom as Spider-Man more than any other appearance. His sacrifice at the end was a huge jump in maturity and true responsibility.
You were spot on about those TVA guys. I had no idea they were something from an MCU thing till I saw comments from the trailer video mentioning them. I honestly don’t care if this movie saves the MCU or not. I’m just excited to get another Deadpool movie and with Hugh Jackman as Wolverine in it. I really hope this movie is as fun as the other Deadpool movies.
If they are smart they'll give you a 30 second primer on the TVA as part of Pool's interrogation.
Atleast in the trailer Deadpool asking them who they are & they actually giving brief explanation instead just thinking the viewers would understand
There are a lot of theories that this movie might possibly loosely follow "deadpool kills the marvel universe" kind of vibes and use that as a springboard to forcefully setup the reboot thats supposed to Culminate with secret wars
That's the part I love about his, even if you don't know what the TVA is. They can easily give you explanation of what they are in the movie because the show was isolated, there is no reason for someone no interested in it to watch it! That's how Marvel shows should be isolated without any big enough (visible) events so in movies you can give viewers a recap without breaking their immersion. I hope I am right on this.
@@knaditya8228 Exactly. I loved how isolated and raw the street level Marvel shows were on Netflix. They started going off the deep end with Iron Fist but there were only passing mentions of what was happening in the MCU.
Never had a desire to watch Deadpool. Still no desire to watch Deadpool vs Wolverine.
Ahh some superhero media. Thats what we need. There’s definitely not enough of it over the last 20 years.
"I am Marvel Jesus!" Probably the only film I'm genuinely excited for this year! This has the potential to be the greatest MCU movie to date! Seeing Hugh Jackman and Ryan Reynolds share the screen again is legendary.
What do you mean again? You talking about the Wolverine Origins movie? Or was their any other movie.
It is r-rated, but I find it difficult to believe.
Wolverine is stupid. If I were Deadpool's Mom I would not let him play with Wolverine.
It’ll suck. If they had the balls to mock the woke turn in marvel they’d have put it in the trailer. Instead we get the TVA
Missed some critical points here. The first being Ryan Reynolds has been behind Deadpool since the beginning and Disney knows how popular the IP is. With all the stories and reports of Disney trying to force in "The Message" in the third act of Deadpool, something that Ryan Reynolds is against, that would actually mean any problems with the third movie can be laid at Disney's feet for interference. Overall, Disney sees this as their chance to use the movie to jump start other projects which was what they would have done had Disney had controlling interest in the Spider-Man No Way Home movie
How do you know Ryan Reynolds is against it? Lol
@jeffersonhassan4558 if you haven't watched the first two Deadpool movies and at least know that they weren't made under Disney control, then clearly your own head is up your ass for the warmth
@@jeremyblackmouth3323 They got a woman killed in the name of showing "natural black hair." Ryan's virtue signaling literally cost a human life.
imagine thinking that "disney knows how popular the IP is" means dick all. star wars was pretty popular, sure as hell didnt stop them from killing it.
I like Ryan reynolds he needs to be in a Tarantino film.
Long before She-Hulk was even pitched, back when Agents of SHIELD was the only MCU TV show, I actually wanted to see a She-Hulk TV series that would lampoon the silliness and loose threads of the MCU. And when it was announced, I was thrilled at first because it sounded like I would get my wish, and it came at a time when the MCU was getting bloated and was ripe for a little comedic pruning. And, well, we all know how that story ended. All I'm saying is that Deadpool is promising the same thing I wanted from She-Hulk, but this time my expectations are that it will disappoint.
Last thing I heard about this movie is that Ryan Reynolds has apparently been showing more interest in Wrexham FC than in the movie and has been distracted, not spending much time on it and rushing back to football business every chance he gets. Doesn't sound significant but if this is true then his heart isn't in this project as much as the last two so I recommend cautious optimism at most. Can't say I blame him really, if paint drying was a sport that'd probably be more passionate than Hollywood right now.
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If this movie flips it’s done,if a Deadpool 3 with Hugh Jackman wolverines return can’t work then nothing can
Flips?
@@FromTheRightAngleflops
Although possible, I doubt it. Even I'm looking forward to this movie and I haven't seen another Marvel movie since Deadpool 2. I'll probably wait a week after it's released to get the audience's general opinion of the movie, just in case it'll be another Disney bait-and-switch.
It won't flop unless it's so bad people walk out first day. So about 50/50 odds I'd say haha
@@CMCAdvanced the best I could see this movie being is alright,Deadpool 2 was ehh as is