We live in a world of sequels, most of them bad, some of them good, others just plan baffling. But which ones deserved a little more love than they got? Join me as I count down my five favourite picks.
We live in a world of sequels, most of them bad, some of them good, others just plan baffling. But which ones deserved a little more love than they got? Join me as I count down my five favourite picks.
My dad was an air traffic controller for 33 years and watching Die Hard 2 with him is… hilarious. He starts squirming. Then hiding his face. Louder and louder groans come from him until he finally explodes and starts ranting the many many reasons the entire plot couldn’t even happen.
Great Christmas film...Along with 1st Die Hard
Why??? Everything seems logical from the point of view of people who know nothing about airports. It's not our fault, right????
😂My dad was Army, he did the same when watching Die Hard with me. Amo counts, shooting from the hip and radio procedures were his favourites😂
@@JeanPiFresita Eh, airplanes could have very easily all diverted to other airports.
Yeah... I have a family member who worked airport security, and he had very similar reactions.
100% agree on Ghostbusters 2...ive never understood the hate for it.
It's similar to Predator 2's hate: It's a really good movie that's following an excellent movie, so it gets judged too harshly.
All of these movies have the problem that they're following up to absolutely incredible first movies. Expectations are high, and being pretty good just isn't good enough. Of course, some sequels to amazing movies somehow manage to deliver everything that is promised (The Empire Strikes Back or Aliens). But they are always going to be the exceptions.
People get mad at Ghostbusters 2 mainly because it's almost exactly the same plot as Ghostbusters. That doesn't make it less fun, but it does make it feel less like something new and exciting.
There wasn't a joke in GB2 that worked for me. I almost walked out, and I was a little kid. I was soooo excited about it and left deflated and depressed. 2010 though, that one's a classic. Die Hard 3 is far better than 2, but 2's still decent.
@@hariman7727I think it was because back then people expected high things from sequels after things like the godfather part ii and aliens. Basically they expected the sequel to ether be just as good or top it. In todays filming going audience we expect sequel’s to be bad or downright horrible. So I think it’s mainly audiences expectations which have changed over time because I know for sure if we got things like predator 2 today it would be praised outright because it is indeed a fun and good movie.
I really appreciate these more positive videos from the Drinker, it's a refreshing respite from the usual evisceration of awful Hollywood schlock.
I feel like positivity is wonderful but I want the scathing reviews, I want the brutal honesty so I can know what I’m getting into. If he only reviewed good movies, he wouldn’t have that many videos and definitely not about recent media
Ironically, he has to go back into the last millennium to find something positive to say!
@@JOHN----DOE I was just about to write the same thing 😀
Yeah but if all you do is shit on everything all the time without highlighting what you think is better then you just come off as a toxic hater like some of Drinker's peers. @@rosemaryrieger6676
@@JOHN----DOE Not quite! He recently sung the highest praises for LOTR, which came out from 2001-2003, then he quickly noted nothing that good will ever be made again, lmao.
My favorite underrated sequel is The Mummy Returns. Maybe it got more love than I realize, but I never hear anyone mention it let alone praise it. My favorite part is how the main romance couple from the first one was allowed to stay together and stay in love instead of being artificially forced apart in order to repeat the love arc. Instead they have an almost adam's family style relationship and a kid who somehow isn't annoying. It would have been so easy for the movie to use the kid being kidnapped as leverage for relationship drama that pulls them apart for the second act, but instead they comfort and support each other like complete psychopaths /s. There are other things it does well and poorly(like how the brother is flanderized), but overall it's a fun movie that kinda floundered into obscurity unless someone wants to point out the bad CG of the scorpion king at the end.
I think what holds it back is it's a bit forgettable. I barely remember The Mummy exists, and I honestly loved that one when it came out. Those two were not bad movies...
I always loved the chemistry and general romance story between Rachel's and Brendan's characters. Those two Mummy movies were so much fun.
Yes!!!!
Yeah, I agree completely with this analysis. It seems like we had a lot of 3 part movie series' back then and most of them I loved the second more than the first and hated the third. Although, in retrospect, watching some of them as an adult I ended up changing my opinion of them, except for the Mummy series, and Jurassic Park, where I still love the second more than the first and hate the third. An example of what I mean by a changing opinion over time would be TMNT, where I loved the second as a kid and found the third boring, but as an adult I found the second completely juvenile and actually loved the third.
They're goofy movies but I remember watching the second one as a kid and noticing what a good sequel it is. It takes everything from the first one and takes them to the next level which is what a good sequel is meant to do. And, as you say, it doesn't just rehash stuff from the first one, it continues them in a believable way. The plot, while not exactly Shakespeare, is also fairly imaginative for a sequel: a new villain is about to be resurrected and destroy the world so people resurrect the villain from the first movie to fight him, and the heroes have to stop _both._ That's more interesting than simply "the villain from the first movie comes back fir Round 2" or "here's a new villain who's very similar to the first." Yeah, overall I agree with you.
Also worth mentioning. In Predator 2 days you could have a hugely diverse cast like in this fantastic movie and nobody made a big deal about it. It was just a great cast for fitting roles and all in all good characters. How things have changed these days…
Yep, nobody made a big deal about it, because nobody cared. Back then, we all just wanted to see good movies with good actors. No one even batted an eye at the race or gender of the actor in question, we just wanted to be entertained -- not have agendas shoved down our throats.
P2 following predators footstep, first film also had believable, fantastic, diverse cast.
Maria Conchita Alonso, a Venezuela native, gets bonus points because she's strongly anti-Chavista.
I don't like Predator 2 but you're not wrong there. I noticed when I was rewatching all the "24" seasons how diverse the cast and characters were. The difference is the moral and competency alignment of the characters has nothing to do with their demographic. There's heroic white characters, villainous white characters, heroic black characters, villainous bIack characters. Competent white men, incompetent black women, and vice versa etc. _That's_ the stuff we want to return to.
@@privatecitizen5968while I’m not 100% sure on this, the likely reason they gender-swapped one of the characters (Dr. Liet-Kynes, the Imperial ecologist character) is because the character was played by a legendary actor, Max von Sydow, in the (vastly inferior) David Lynch version, and I don’t think any actor would want to fill in his shoes. So Villeneuve probably chose to gender swap the character. Honestly, if this is true, there’s nothing forced about it.
"For a Few Dollars More" is another that is overlooked. Sandwiched in between "A Fist Full of Dollars" and "The Good, the Bad and the Ugly" it never had its heyday that it deserved. The plot, characters and music were brilliantly done and has one of the best surprises I've seen in years.
But its not a sequel. There is no continuing story arc in the Dollars trilogy. They are standalone films where the same actors can play different roles. Lee van Cleef, hero in For a Few Dollars More, somebody else and a villain in The Good, the Bad & the Ugly. The only constant is Clint's character and I am not even sure of that. As somebody told me, it is a trilogy in the sense that Shaun of the Dead, Hot Fuzz and At World's End form a trilogy.
This is true. Van Cleef plays ‘Colonel Mortimer’ in For a Few Dollars More, and ‘Angel Eyes’ in GBU. It is unclear if Eastwood is the same guy until he puts the poncho on in GBU. For a Few Dollars more, is my favorite of the three. GBU is overrated, but still a great film.
@@chaptermasterpedrokantor1623 Apparently the timeline is "the good the bad and the ugly" is first chronologically, and "a fist full of dollars" is last. So while the stories are connected, they're only really connected by Clint and a few bullet holes in his hat. I guess they sort of expected viewers to look over the repeated use of the same actors in different roles. Plus the fact that the intent wasn't to make a trilogy in the first place, so connections between the two movies are sparse.
I agree with the point the first reply made. But For a Few Dollars More was always my favorite of the three. The Good, The Bad and The Ugly just dragged on too long. That whole Civil War scene was so out of place. I think of the three as a trilogy though with Clint Eastwood playing the same drifter throughout and just chalking up the other actors appearing as different characters as a mere coincidence. Especially Lee Van Cleef’s characters.
@@Sebarants it's More of a theory the movies were no never written or intended to be connected it's only a trilogy due to the marketing in the u.s
I honestly had no idea that Ghostbusters 2 was considered "bad" sequel. I liked it a lot when i first watched it (still do) and only years later found that out.
It’s not a bad movie, but it does reset everything that happened in the first movie and then just does more or less the same again. It’s like a cheaper copy of the first one. That said, still a phenomenal cast, super special effects and cool ideas; it’s definitely a good movie. It just has to measure up to a better first movie.
It also suffered from the fact that it came out a full 5 years after Ghostbusters, which back in the 80's was a really long time to wait for a sequel. To put that into perspective, I was 13 when Ghostbusters came out and 18 for GB 2. That's a lifetime at that age for a follow up film.
We had to wait 5 years but inbetween we had the real ghostbusters cartoon as well as the comic and toys.
@SirDracolis Yes, I remember the "Real Ghostbusters" cartoon. As good as it was, as well as the toys, they were targeted at my 2 younger brothers age group.(9 and 10 1/2 younger) Still, not the same as the iconic Aykroyd, Murry, Ramis, Hudson, Weaver, Moranis and Potts. Sorry, but not exactly on my Senior year watch list. Cool if you liked it, maybe you were a bit younger. The point was, it was a long time to wait for a sequel. I still liked it more than most ppl, but it lost some of the magic from the first film. As far as waiting for a 3rd movie, we'll, we all know how that went.
The weird thing about the criticisms of Ghostbusters 2 is that most of them also apply to Ghostbusters 1. It's not so much that the criticisms are invalid as it is that the people making those criticisms have a massive blindspot for them in the first movie. Like they're remembering the first one through rose tinted glasses. I like both movies, btw.
Every time I hear “go away now” I’m like “hmm which one of drinkers videos shall I watch next” we are here to stay Mr.Drinker. Keep up the good work ❤️
Blade 2 is also worth a mention. Top notch action sequences and effects that actually improve on the original. Never thought I’d say Luke Goss was a genuinely terrifying villain. Had a very Aliens vibe to it with the monster effects.
Yes!!! I love the whole Blade Trilogy, but Blade 2 was a strong point for sure! I love that movie
Blade 2 is in all honesty one of my favorite movies of all time.
Love that one!
Aye two was much better than one.
My teenage self agrees. The only films I watched multiple times in theatres was Blade 2, the punisher and lord of the rings
You know an absolutely great sequel? The Rescuers Down Under. The first one is decent but kind of meh. The sequel is frigging amazing. It has these really gorgeous scenes of the main character riding a giant eagle, the villain is voiced by George C. Scott, and it actually takes itself really seriously for a kids movie. I love it. Even if you're an adult you can totally get into it.
Always loved that one.
Absolutely -- the banter amongst the captive animals was great.
Loved this as a kid so much but not letting my kid watch since it's Gisney and they will do a remake some day and change Cody to make a political statement.
Yes, Down Under should be on the list of sequals that are better then the original
Yes. 100% agree.
I love Predator and Ghostbusters 2. Especially the courtroom scene with Rick Moranis as the lawyer. That scene is hilarious ! As honorable mention, I would add Addams Family Values. It's a fun movie that is often looked down compared to the first Addams Family.
Bill Paxton is the only actor to have been killed by a Terminator, an Alien and a Predator.
Gremlins 2 is my favourite sequel. It’s so deliberately over the top and self aware. It mocks itself but gets the tone correct. It’s Paul Verhoven esq. satire of what a sequel is. The same plot but everything turned up to 11. Smashes through the 4th wall, mad cameos and call backs.
Gremlins 2 is ace but I think it’s recognized for what it is? So I don’t think it’s an underrated sequel but just a good one.
Came out the same year as Die Hard 2 and Predator 2, among *many* other underrated/underperforming/flop sequels. 1990 was a weird year for movies. (It's also strange how Dick Tracy, which didn't perform as well as Disney expected but was still a monster hit that summer, has been almost completely *erased* from the popular memory. Except for "Vogue," which was thrown onto Madonna's sort-of-soundtrack album at the last minute and which most people don't even know had any relationship with the film.)
I like the second even better than the first. The campiness is turned up to eleven as if the gremlins took over the movie produc…ouch!..what the…oh my .. get them off me! They’re r-real!!! Gremlins are actually r
@@sageoz9886 Joe Dante didn't want to make a Gremlins sequel but Warner Brothers gave him complete creative control. And then he got a devious gleam in his eye.
@@sageoz9886 I don't know if I like it better, but as with Alien and Aliens or Terminator and T2, you can make a strong case for either film, and on any given day I might prefer one to the other.
Predator 2 is quite underrated. Danny Glover makes for a great lead. Also Rocky 2 is awesome. My favorite moment is when he’s running up the steps and you got all the kids running behind him and cheering him on. There’s something really feel good about that moment.
Agree and agree.
He's not Arnold, but Glover is a big guy with good screen presence in his own right. I'm surprised Bill Paxton's hilarious turn as Jerry wasn't mentioned since it's nearly as good as his portrayal of Private Hudson.
When Adrian wakes up from the coma and tells Rocky "Win....Win!!"
I always loved Predator 2, but was quite alone :/ not anymore, it seems :)
I never understood why ghostbusters 2 got all the hate either. I loved it 😊 And predator 2 was awesome as well 🤘
The WORST ending to any movie, ever, comes from Pre-dater 2. An alien space vessel takes off from underground, using the same explosive method our own space crafts use, and Danny Glover survives this by hiding behind a few feet of granite?! HE WAS 10 FEET AWAY~
The best Drinker content will always be the ones that Drinker suggests or recommends movies and series instead of ranting for bad ones. You're doing both great Drinker and you're always entertaining but I'll always root for positivity over anything.
Yeah he put me on to some great films I would never have known like The Beast, a great movie about the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan
@@user-rv9hp6bo3yI have satellite tv and would watch The Beast at night, when it was on canal +. These movie channels air these movies at least 6 times, for a period of 2-3 months. I was 20 and always high, smoking hash, so when drinker recommended it I decided to rewatch it
I don't always agree with his recommendations (t The Northman) but he's switched me onto some real gems (Arcane, Top Gun: Maverick, etc.)
A shout out to 28 Weeks Later as an underrated sequel. While the overall relapse of the infected apocalypse was preventable to say the least, the opening sequence still stands even today. Tragedy, fear and desperation all rolled into one scene.
They did our boy dirty in that intro
28 days later: "lets see those tea sipping zombies fight the US military." 28 weeks later: " oh"
yeah, I really wish they did 28 Months Later
i thought it started great but was overall a loud and unpleasant movie
@@d.bowenz It still keeps getting rumored from time to time, I'm not sure what the current state is atm.
Totally agree Drinker. Predator 2 is by far the most underrated sequel. Absolutely love it. I remember seeing it at the cinema and watching the final act when all the predators begin to uncloak and it just about blew my mind.
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I always thought that "The Chronicles of Riddick" was a great follow up to the movie "Pitch Black". Definitely underrated in my opinion.
I wasn’t a fan of Chronicles so much; it went off in a weird direction that I didn’t care for. However Riddick 2013 was a great sequel. It’s more like Pitch Black.
@@joshcarter-com I agree, the first one I loved, the second one I'd like to forget I ever watched, but the third one was pretty good.
@@joshcarter-comUkraine simp alert. 🚨
Have to disagree. Pitch Black was a grunge Sci fi horror movie. Chronicles was some weird high end epic action movie. The two movies don't feel like they exist in the same world at all.
@@JadeRunner completely with you, actually. I was saying I didn’t like Chronicles of Riddick (2004) for exactly the reasons you mention. However the third movie Riddick (2013) was much more like Pitch Black in theme and tone. It’s a proper sequel.
I sincerely appreciate your sarcasm & wit in general whilst ripping apart movies & shows. Which leads me to love that when you give flowers to a production, it lends so much weight. Great work as always my fellow drinker. . . .
The scene with Apollo in his office talking to Tony Duke about how he “won” the first match but didn’t beat Rocky is one of my favourites in the series.
"I won, but I didn't beat him."
He’s all wrong for us baby.
Great scene!
The man kept comin’! @@jrtunderground
It's the scene that truly makes the movie, IMO. It justifies the film's existence. They both needed that closure and they got it.
Airplane 2 is an insanely underrated sequel. Unlike most comedy sequels, it manages to understand what made the original movie great, have natural story evolution, jokes that feel like they fit in the original movie, while still feeling different, and giving the characters great closure.
"Over Macho Grande"
@@chrisjames3204 "I'll never be over Macho Grande" Surely you must be joking if you didn't think anyone would respond to that.
Those wounds run pretty deep
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"We don't have a tower. Only a bridge."
Solid list, 100% on board with those top 3. Always thought 2010 was excellent and under appreciated and never understood the grief Ghostbusters 2 and Predator 2 got.
Yes! Was hoping to see Rocky 2 on here. I would actually add Rocky 3 as well. It’s actually about something- how success changes you, and how to overcome that.
I'd also add Rocky 3 on the list, as it was not only the first Rocky film that I watched as a child, but also because I happen to be a big fan of Mr. T's kickass (and world-famous) performance as Clubber Lang, as well as the fight scene with Thunderlips (aka Hulk Hogan). Those two aspects are what made (and still makes) the film highly entertaining to watch imo. It was also the last film in the series to include character Mickey Goldmill, a role in which Burgess Meredith shone especially well in Rocky 3.
I agree, Mr T was great in his role and blew up to super stardom getting into the A-Team afterwards, he was just like Rocky in the first two movies except way more brash and cocky, also Pauly was a great character in the first three movies, it shows how much writers could pay attention to details by giving minor characters a character arc through 3 movies (don't remember much about the 4th one other than Dolf/Russia).
Yeah, I think I would have placed Rocky 2 in the #1 spot. When I was a boy, that running scene alone made me feel like I could conquer the world.
Another very underrated sequel: Gremlins 2. Seems like 1990 was full of these. Exactly the sort of off the wall insanity that didn't play it safe and was just totally bonkers. I watched it with my brother on NYE and we had a drunken blast.
Gremlins 2 is brilliant because Joe Dante didn't want to make a sequel, so he set out to f*** s*** up. And did a genius job.
The Key and Peel skit about Gremlins 2 was awesome
Gremlins 2 also had a lot more to say than people give it credit for. It had commentaries on big souless corporations and business culture, how TV has evolved into a focus on one type of content per channel (Cooking, DIY, Crime, Archery lol). Then the cherry on top is the addition of the genetic mutations. It was a brilliant way to raise the stakes and to add a whole new dynamic to the Gremlins. Honestly, I actually like it a little better than the original.
Imagine a Predator movie set in an active war zone. You could go older setting with unreliable communication like the trench lines of WWI. Or a WWII setting where a German and British platoons are combating over control of a town and a Predator is killing them all. The possibilities are nearly endless.
yes, predator has many possibilities still just change the setting and repeat the story better than stuff like the "the predator"
Hell yes. The Predator franchise should just drop into multiple war zones throughout human history- and future.
The predator hunting marines and Japanese soldiers on Guadalcanal would be wild
This is a better idea than all the Predator sequels
Quality idea there.
*Back* *To* *The* *Future* *Part* *II* So I watched this Heavy Spoilers breakdown video for Back to the Future Part II while inside a Tokyo Central which is a Japanese grocery store. There was a radio station playing. Guess what was playing when I watched the Heavy Spoiler video? Chuck Berry’s “Johnny B. Goode”. A few songs before that was “NeverEnding Story” which I rarely hear on the radio. If only Huey Lewis’ “Power of Love” played right after “Johnny B. Goode”. Back to the Future Part II is my all-time favorite movie followed by the OG. I’ve seen BTTF 1 and 2 over a 100x. Maybe BTTF2 at least 150x and BTTF1 over 100x. I used to memorize almost every line from them. “Well! Since when did you become the physical type?” I think The Shawshank Redemption is the greatest film I’ve ever seen in the theater and it was my favorite for years, but BTTF2 really is my favorite 34 years later. My previous girlfriend would say Claudia Wells was the prettier Jennifer over Elisabeth Shue. I used to think it was Elisabeth but now I think my gf was right. Claudia is the prettier one based on how she looked in the 1985 movie as she has the prettier eyes although Elisabeth is still attractive and she was great in The Boys and her appearance in Cobra Kai. Elisabeth’s Jennifer did have more things to say and do. Young Jennifer: I’m old! Old Jennifer: I’m young! BTTF was really the first franchise where I would rewatch it and I would learn something new each time. They’re the ultimate Easter Egg movies and the perfect movies for breakdown videos from Heavy Spoilers and New Rockstars. Like I didn’t notice Twin Pines Mall became Lone Pine Mall until several rewatches. I didn’t know they filmed it at Puente Hills Mall which was a mall I frequented from 1999-2009 before it became empty. I’ll admit, BTTF2 might actually be the weakest movie of the trilogy but it’s my favorite because it got me into loving Nikes and gadgets. I say it’s the weakest because the story is very flawed. Since when did Marty McFly become Alex Keaton and he wants to be rich so badly? He was going to use the sports almanac to cheat his way into a fortune. That’s very out of character for Marty. I didn’t see BTTF2 until early 1990 or so when it started to appear on Showtime. I remember recording it with a blank VHS tape and it might have been the first movie I ever recorded from TV. I absolutely loved it when I first saw it. Then I bought a legit VHS copy of BTTF1 at Sam Goody if I recall and would watch that one repeatedly. I saw it in this order: 2-1-3. When I would check copies of TV Guide, BTTF2 would only get two stars. It wasn’t a well received movie when it first came out similar to Batman ‘89. It only got more popular years after it came out similar to The Shawshank Redemption. The more universally beloved BTTF movie is the original. And when BTTF3 came out, it got more positive critics’ reviews than what BTTF2 initially got. Surprisingly, Robert Zemeckis admitted his favorite Back to the Future movie is BTTF2 because it was darker, more bizarre, and wilder. We visit three different timelines and the third act in 1955 is basically how Avengers: Endgame plays out revisiting moments from the previous film. I saw BTTF3 in the theater and it’s the only BTTF movie I’ve seen in the theater. MCU and Star Wars are the most talked about movie franchises with the Millennials and Zoomers generation while Back to the Future and Indiana Jones are the most rewatchable ones beloved by many Gen Xers who grew up watching them during the 80s. There are times when SW content can bore me to tears. My Top 20 Favorite Movies Ever 1. Back to the Future Part II (1989) 2. Back to the Future (1985) 3. Bill & Ted’s Excellent Adventure (1989) 4. Maverick (1994) 5. Let it Ride (1989) 6. Casino (1995) 7. Goodfellas (1990) 8. Once Upon A Time… In Hollywood (2019) 9. The Big Lebowski (1998) 10. Hot Tub Time Machine (2010) 11. Dirty Rotten Scoundrels (1989) 12. The Shawshank Redemption (1994) 13. Elvis (2022) 14. Air (2023) 15. Kingpin (1996) 16. Dumb and Dumber (1994) 17. History of the World Part I (1981) 18. Some Like It Hot (1959) 19. Pulp Fiction (1994) 20. Back to the Future Part III (1990) I used to dislike BTTF3 but it’s actually grown on me over the years. I still don’t understand where the DeLorean was that Doc came with in 1885? I still don’t love 3 as much as 2 and 1 but I’ve grown to enjoy it. I don’t mind the slower pacing as I’ve gotten older and the better character development for Doc. It’s all about Doc falling in love while Marty no longer cared about being called a chicken. Christopher Lloyd said BTTF3 was his favorite by far. Since he’s an actor, I can understand him enjoying his character change and not only be some crazy scientist. And I enjoyed the slower pace after the frenetic ending to BTTF2. It’s probably the most relaxed BTTF movie. Almost like a hangout movie the way Dazed and Confused and Once Upon A Time… In Hollywood are. I notice for many people, many of their favorite movies was when they were still kids. BTTF 1, 2, and Bill & Ted raised me since I was 9. I love them. I sorta consider Bill & Ted as my BTTF3. They’re these time travel 80s movies that remain timeless to me. They don’t feel dated like other 80s comedies especially from John Hughes. They’re quintessential 80s that don’t feel dated. Going to buy a Bill & Ted hat that says: Be Excellent To Each Other. Roads? Where we’re going, we don’t need roads. That’s what Tony Stark should’ve said after Sam Wilson accidentally shot Rhodey down in Captain America: Civil War. I love time travel comedies like Back to the Future, Bill & Ted, Hot Tub Time Machine, and Loki. Anyhoo, party on, dudes. For All Time. Always. 😎
The Delorean that the Doc travelled to 1885 is buried in the mine so that Marty can unearth it in 1955 (with 1885 doc intending Marty to return to 1985, not knowing his fate at the hands of Biff). They can't use that DeLorean in 1885 because it would create a time paradox by not being buried for Marty and Doc to unearth in 1955 for Marty to return to 1885 :P Ah Time Travel
If you smoke enough weed...Hot Tub Time Machine 2 is actually kinda funny lol.
Always good to see 2010 getting some love. Great film and so underappreciated, bordering forgotten even.
I don't know if it's underrated, but Beverly Hills Cop 2 is a strong sequel. Good humor, storytelling expands on the original, and Brigitte Nielsen was a good villain.
Yes, completely agree. Very underrated. Always seemed a bit more polished than the first one in story, action, comedy and chemistry between the cast. Like the first one was a good practice run and number two was the aim.
Yep, agree with that. I thought it was pretty damn good.
All Beverley hills cop movies were great if only for the only flaw that they more or less all followed the exact same plot to a T
It felt like a better remake.
All I ever remember about that movie is my dad pointing out the laziness of the props department. There's a scene with muddy shoes and when one is picked up, it leaves dirt in the shape of the shoe on the carpet. So rather than making the shoes legit dirty, they just sprinkled dirt on top. At least I think it's that movie.
The Drinker can’t get pregnant, but he always delivers.
Who said he can't, have you tried it yet? 😈
@@Chicken_And_Cardboard I don’t swing that way, nice try though 🤓
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@@TheWarmachine375thanks for the tip, I didn’t know that happens on KZhead. Much appreciated :)
Escape from LA is an underrated gem with an ending I adore. Also Psycho 2 surprised me with a shocking amount of care put into it as abates tries and fails to move on
Really. Escape from LA? My new girlfriend almost dumped me after I took her to that!
@@robertmoore1061She didn't like the hang glider assault scene? 🤪
Psycho 2 is the GOAT of unnecessary but fantastic sequels.
I'd rather watch a film of dude taking a shit reading a news paper and staring at his watch for 2 hours.... wait I'd reather take a 2 hour shit than watch Escape from Bel Air
Growing up, Rocky II was my favorite of the bunch. I enjoyed seeing it get love here.
One massively underrated aspect of Predator 2 was the worldbuilding. Even taking the Predator out of the story altogether still leaves an interesting and exciting environment that feels like the people within it are all dealing with important struggles, such as overstretched police department struggling to contain the drug war that has its own very different and unique belligerents, or the general degradation of society with aggressive, shit-stirring reporters and vigilante members of the public. It almost felt like an entirely new film in its own right rather than a sequel. Also a great performance from Danny Glover.
Predator 2 is on par with Empire Strikes Back as the best sequel.....you are correct about the world building aspect.
I also appreciate the differences in the Predator's behavior in the sequel. He's much more bloodthirsty and bold than the one Arnold faced off against.
Also, Jamaican Voodoo Gangsters.
Glover is fantastic in Predator 2!! I agree that they did an excellent job worldbuilding for the sequel. I also think the DRASTIC setting change was super ballsy and they pulled it off perfectly
Dude, P2 is a gem and for all the reasons listed and more, and it opened the door to the whole connection between the aliens and predator franchises
I never understood the hate Predator 2 received. I saw it as a kid on VHS and loved it. Characters were great and action was excellent. Glad that you put it on the number one spot!
It is decent, but like Terminator Predator is not a franchise where you can have different actors play different movies. It is an Arnold Schwarzenegger star vehicle, and without him it's just not the same. Danny Glover did a good job, but he is no Arnold. And sadly the trophy wall with the Alien skull spawned the god awful AvP films.
@@chaptermasterpedrokantor1623 Idk man. Arnold would look "out of place" in Predator 2... The scenery and everything fits an "everyday cop" like Danny Glover way better.
If only John McTiernan had returned rather than that hack Stephen Hopkins; it could have been something really special.
McTiernan and John Milius had balls, unlike 99% of Hollywood today.
Samee, watched it waaaay back in the day and honestly at that age, I prefered it to the first one.
This might be one of my favorite videos you’ve done! Thanks for including Ghostbusters 2!
Excellent list! Refreshing to get your perspective on these films! At one point I thought you would mention Tron Legacy ; one of the only movies I felt like it brought the original up to the next level, also the script is minimalistic and efficient, the atmosphere is timeless, and the rhythm and editing are soooo on point
Tron Legacy is not a great movie but it is a fantastic 2hr Daft Punk music video. 👍
I always liked how Die Hard 3 is nothing like the first one. Adapted from an unrelated script, completely different scale and format for its premise, but it really works.
It would absolutely be on this list if it was a direct sequel. I think he was looking at just the next released movies. I think Die Hard 3 is just as good as the first one. It's really good.
100% agree Die Hard 3 is great entertainment!
Wasn't it written as a Lethal Weapon sequel?
@@fathercheese01honestly I prefer it to the first
It's amusing you say that and I agree with you but that reason that's it's different is the reason most people give for not liking Hangover 3 or Taken 3 as they were both too different from the first two movies in their series. I happen to like both of those movies as well for the very fact that they're different and offer an interesting close to both of those series. And DH3 is actually one of my favorites in its series. 1, 4, and 3 are my top 3 DHs.
I am 35 and I never knew people disliked Ghostbusters 2. The acting, humor, tone, visuals, everything was a near perfect follow up to the original.
Same! I thought Ghostbusters 2 was great
GB2 was the sh!t !!!
Nah, I can imagine why GB2 was underwhelming, it’s a tall order to make a sequel, and they went from demons and a blockbuster monster that was amazing… to a slow burn comedy horror. GB2 had to be … Huge to make people feel the same shock and awe. This is also an era in which you didn’t have the same direct to video tape sales. They’d just bring the old movie back to the cinema before the new movie came out in case you missed it the first time. People had VHS, but it wasn’t assumed that people would see the movie on VHS. So all they’d remember was that ending. Great sequel, but it would have made people wonder if they couldn’t make a titan sized monster / demon as well. It did well, but I think people had lofty ambitions for GB2 to make the ghosts more shocking, zany and comical, because they were probably under the impression that it was a kids movie. The stay puft marshmallow man as a villain overtook what people wanted from movies, and elevated the audience’s expectations and memories of what GB1 was about. Going from King Kong sized monsters to an evil painting is underwhelming. It works, but it’s a different time. Modern sequels, you add a second Death Star and make it bigger.
Me neither
I don't know anyone who didn't like GB2. And for me even today, whenever I'm in the olive oil section of the grocery store....
Was so happy to see Predator 2 on here. The first is my favorite movie of all time, and I’ve always been a staunch defender of the sequel
Thank you for adding ghostbusters 2, I agree that it's not nearly as bad as people make it out to be.
I enjoyed Tron: Legacy. For being visual spectacle and light-show, I enjoyed the CGI in it. The score, by Daft Punk was also on point.
Yup, but it was suposed to be a TRON sequel and how much time was what is suposed to be main character in it? 5 minutes? Well...1982 movie was the same, Tron was not main character...
It also had a pretty good story arc. Even though you had to do some homework to fill in the holes. Of course I love the first one, so I'm probably biased.
Legacy was awesome ! They even made an anime based on this, that was great, but Disney killed it.
The movie had problems but I agree is still a very enjoyable film on its own
@@AlainBoudard True. Tron uprising, totally recommend it!
Tremors 2. I adore that movie. The script (by the same writers, one of whom also directs) is just as tight, entertaining, and inventive as the original, playing on what we currently know and then sprinkling in new twists and a new part of the evolving graboid life cycle to figure out. It may not have the budget of the original, but it never feels like a 'small' direct-to-video sequel. It's got some great action, lots of memorable dialogue (especially for Burt Gummer), plenty of humour, a tightly-knit and enjoyable cast of characters ... yeah, it's a great damn movie!
Fred Ward was the sh!t !!
Tremors 2 just got a nice release from Arrow Video.
Felt Bacon's absense big time, but great movie.
I like all the Tremors movies but my favorite is actually Tremors 4--a sequel (actually a prequel) that almost no one has seen. It features graboids in the old West. And since I love Westerns, this sequel was my favorite. How could you go wrong with fast 6-gun shooters and monsters?
@@GrnXnham I also have all 4 of them, great set to have.
Psycho 2 is a real hidden gem. The original is an undisputed classic, obviously, but the sequel focuses more on Norman's trauma and paranoia and manages to craft a suspenseful mystery with some great slasher kills.
Far too often overlooked is the humor in Psycho 2. Just because it had to take its rightful place beneath the original didnt mean that it couldn't have its own charm and wit.
Yes! One of my favourite sequels. On paper it should be awful but it's surprisingly great.
@@MatthewSmith-fy5hk"are you sure you don't want a sandwich...?" _WHACK!_ 🤣 The ending to Psycho 2 is absolutely perfect.
@@MatthewSmith-fy5hkanother often overlooked aspect is Meg Tilly's performance as Mary. She has to be simultaneously so many contradicting things at once - smart, naive, innocent, deceptive, honest and manipulative - without the audience noticing the incongruity if her behaviour and she absolutely nailed it. Also doesn't hurt that she's cute as fuqq, ha.
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My camera lecturer worked on Die Hard 2 and I have a funny anecdote to share. Bruce Willis was just beginning to really lose his hair, so the DOP was asked to make sure nearly every close up shot of Bruce in that film was framed tight to hide his scalp. God speed to old Bruce, sad to see him go through it these days.
As if he didn't already have a receding hairline when Moonlighting started five years before this movie, and definitely for Die Hard. Weird that they were suddenly concerned about it for DH2.
Predator 2 gave us the trophy wall, the clan, their sense of "honor" (by not killing an unborn baby, only because it would downgrade him as a top killer), the gift/trophy for the winner and the notion that they are here for a long, long time. I love the first movie, but the fact that Arnold didn't come back helped to cement the hunter as the true protagonist of the franchise
Wholehearted agreement from my side. I have never understood why people were so annoyed about Arnie not being in the sequel. Would not fit, completely different era and area. In my opinion Glover is just as a badass under the circumstances. Well, if they had made a 3rd episode with Glover and Arnie later on, that would have been an amazing, mind-blowing feature. Too bad it never happened.
And it also gave us AvP because of the alien skull
I would have liked to see Arnie comeback in a later installment as the cyborg version of Dutch as seen in the arcade game for a GOOD AVP movie. In a way i like to see major characters have their story be done. It lets a universe build more stories and characters off the results of those stories. Back when they released Alien resurrection, i wanted more expendable colonial marines stories, not more Ripley.
@@FP194is that a good thing?
Completely disagree. I hate the whole retcon of the Predators being these "honour bound warriors" and turning them into the heroes of the franchise. You're correct that this lore was introduced by Predator 2 but that's why I dislike the movie. In Predator 1 there's no hint anywhere that the Predator is "honourable." People point to the fact he only kiIIs armed prey and removes his armor and weapons for the end fight with Dutch, but they're wrong. The Predator is a _thrill seeker._ He's doing it all for the asrenaline rush. He refrains from kiIIing unarmed prey because there's no _fun_ in it, not because it's "dishonourable." At the end of the movie, after having lost to Dutch, he activates a mini-nuke to take out the pair of them, and he laughs like a maniac as he does so. That's about as dishonourable as you can get! The Predator sequels all dropped the ball as far as I'm concerned when it comes to what the Predators themselves are supposed to be, but Predator 2 is the one that started all these silly trends. Just my opinion.
Totally agree with the top two. Ghostbusters 2 and Predator 2 were both great movies. One I would add (albeit a sequel to a sequel) is Alien 3. I loved the first film for it's tension, never knowing where the alien was and seeing it pick off the crew one by one. Aliens went full gung-ho. It was a good film, thanks mostly to Sigourney, but it lost every single element that made the first one so great. Alien 3 was a brilliant return to the original style. Why it got so much hate I'll never understand.
I agree Alien 3 is definitely underrated. The director's cut really made it decent, though.
I loved Rocky 2. It felt like a natural follow-up to Rocky, and it still held true to the ethos and spirit of the first movie. It's also in Rocky 2 that Apollo Creed becomes a much more nuanced character rather than simply an obstacle and a goal for Rocky. You can really see how the bout with Rocky really ate away into Apollo's psyche. Also loved how Rocky 2 deepened Rocky's relationship with Paulie and Adrian. I enjoyed the later sequels for what they are (at least if we ignored Rocky 5), but by that point they've become your typical 80s action film while Rocky 2 at heart is still a drama.
I got to say, Rocky 2 has always been in my top 10 movies. Fully agree that it’s very overlooked due to its surface level similarities to the first one
A great movie for showing the after effects of a brutal bout of boxing ...ie the movie starts in the hospital.
Understandably so, I think. Even as a huge Rocky fan, it was my least favorite sequel for many, many years. I love it and appreciate it more now but, as a film that picks up immediately after the first, it didn’t originally gel well with me feeling like it did.
Is Rocky 4 still considered underrated? Excluding the pro-USA anti-Russia allegories I think its a great film with moments still hyped and remembered even today.
@@stephenphillips6245Actually, the movie starts with an ambulance drive montage. 😉
Rocky 2: you could’ve clipped 15 minutes of Rocky watching Adrian sit around
Really happy to see 2010 getting some recognition. It did a good job at humanizing HAL through his related AI SAL. The ending where he understands the importance of life and encourages his creator to leave and live is a great redemption arc
Was coming on here to say just this! I watched 2010 first as a kid before I watched 2001, which admittedly might color my judgement, but I think 2010 is the better overall movie.
2010 is far more watchable than 2001. Also taught me my first word in Russian. Koo-ritz-sa (chicken).
"Piece of pie!"
I do feel bad about the Russian guy going out to investigate the monolith poof gone…… it always stuck in my head
The book basically ends with David and Hal merging with the aliens and travel the universe together presumably.
The best sequel ever and will never be beaten is Terminator 2.
Aliens
They explained Dutch's absence in Predator 2 - I can't remember if only in the book or in the movie too - he was being treated in a hospital with PTSD and other trauma. And it's kinda understandable..
My favorite Rocky scene was from Part II, with Duke telling Apollo to "let it go". "I saw you beat that man, like I never seen no man get beat before, and the man kept coming after you. We don't need that kind of man in our life"
Fucking brilliant line!! Love that!!
Fuck yes.
Predator 2 does a good job in adding onto the Predator species, like how they hunt anything (including Xenomorphs), have a sense of honour, don't fight those who are pregnant (the pregnant cop), or have fake weapons (kid with a toy gun) and also making each Predator look unique too
Tbh I Hated the added Humor in Pred.2
@@JAGtheTrekkieGEMINI1701thank you.
@@JadeRunner You're welcome 👍
The "sense of honour" is the most egregious thing about Predator 2 for me. The Predator in the first movie has no sense of honour He's a thrill-seeker who does what he does for the adrenaline rush. At the end of the movie he activates a mini-nuke to take out both himself and Dutch after Dutch beat him - that's about as dishonourable as you can get! For some reason the writers of the sequel missed that part of the first movie and incorrectly interpreted the Predator's refusal to attack unarmed prey as some sort of "honour" thing as opposed to there just being no fun in it. This is what started the awful trend of making the Predators heroes. 🤦♂️
@@JadeRunner The Predator in the 1st Film HAD to self destruct for multiple reasons but dishonour isn't one of that
A lot of Die hard 2 was filmed at the old Denver, Stapleton international airport. I flew out of there many times when I was young and watching it recently brought back memories!
My favourite sequel is Aliens While the original pushed the genre with is design and visuals it still had the crappy formulaic plot points of having one person having to go into an access tunnel to do something with the engines etc. Aliens feels like two films in one (with a bonus at the end) and although some of the characters are a bit over done they generally behave like real people in their situations. The designs of ship, weapons and equipment were also brilliant and realistic.
Good one
I agree, but it's already almost universally regarded as a great sequel, just as Terminator 2 is. I think CD was trying to highlight the under-rated ones.
@@evanburrows1697 Yeah I guess so
Aliens would be a perfect movie if it wasn't for Bill Paxton. He's the Jar Jar Binks of that movie.
@@JadeRunner Yeah I agree. He's a good character to have in the group but was just a bit over the top.
The Raid 2 is an absolute masterclass in what a sequal can be.
Maybe. It’s not underrated though.
@@SumDumGy_formerly_Tim_Walden agreed. A must know for every action fan.
Not underrated though, one of the greatest films of all time. Makes John Wick look like Teletubbies.
Great film
@@SumDumGy_formerly_Tim_WaldenI argue it is very underrated. Absolutely no one talks about it but a few people in the comments section. To me, that's underrated.
Hot Shots: Part Deux is probably my favourite underrated sequel!
I see you too are a man of culture. 🍵
@@evanburrows1697 🧐
Bow and chicken and throwing bullets.. war its fantastic 😂
Then again, a lot of people don't talk about Hot Shots, period.
I'm so excited, and I just can't hide it.
I remember when i first saw the first 10 minutes of Predator 2. I was blown away with how insane that action scene was and was immediately hooked. Predator is my top movie of all time so I was happy to see that 2 was also a good movie. Its very under rated, this is a great list. We must be around the same age thats for sure.
Wholeheartedly agree with 2010: The Year We Make Contact. I'd seen the first one a few times and found it, as Drinker stated, "pretentious." But the sequel made me love the two movies when viewed in tandem. And, yes, HAL's redemption was almost perfect and made perfect sense. One of the few truly worthy sequels.
I’m 44 years old and some of my most memorable movie going experiences were when I saw Aliens, Predator, and the first two Die hard films in the theater and this is why I have no hopes that anything will ever top those theatrical experiences because not much has even come close in decades.
Wouldn't you have still been a bit young to be seeing those films in the cinema?
Yup !
You're old
Same. Started off with E.T. Aliens my first R rated, RoboCop my second, and so many more. We had it too good.
@@Gremlin2427I would say parents where different back then but I've heard stories in recent years of toddlers in r rated movies. Diff strokes
Rest in peace, Bill Paxton. Like Kurt Russell, he brought that "extra something" that elevated movies like "Predator 2" and "A Simple Plan" to snother level.
Game over, man. Game over!
"Hey... because it's you"
Also one of 2 actors to get killed by a Terminator, Alien, and Predator. The other is his Aliens and Terminator costar Lance Henrikson.
He should have said "game over, man", as his great-great-great-son would say in LV-426
was he the one who said "fuggin A maaann" when they were stranded in Aliens?@@toxictony4230
Exactly right about Predator 2 in regards to Arnold's lack of presence. Predator was perceived as a Arnold Schwarzenegger movie similar to Conan the Barbarian rather than a "Predator" movie, so the perception was it didn't make any sense making a sequel without Arnold. But it was a great movie regardless.
Dude I can't believe you mentioned Predator 2! I completely agree. Great film not a lot of people know about that one these days. Love Danny Glover. Good choice
I find Roboop 2 to be extremely underrated. I think Irving Kershner did a brilliant job. The original Robocop is about how Murphy becomes Robocop, Robocop 2 is about his decision to carry on as Roboop, in essence, its the story of him establishing himself as a bonafide superhero; in spite of all the weight he has to carry as Robocop, in spite of the tragic nature of his existence, he carries on, not because of his programming, but because of his sense of duty. We finally see in Robocop 2 just what makes Murphy who he is. The moment where he electrocutes himself to erase OCP's programming and finds no prime directives...and immediately resumes his cop duties was awesome. He was CHOOSING to do that, it wasn't OCP, it was Murphy choosing to be the best cop he could be. In a sense, I think Robcop 2 is one of the most conservative movies there's been, because it is in a sense all about the hero's sense of duty and restraint and the power that his "Irish Catholic" upbringing had to instill those virtues in him whereas in Kaine we see the opposite, a man with no restraint or sense of duty to something greater than himself.
The humor in the original two Robocop movies is vastly under appreciated. Yes, I'll buy that for a dollar!!!!
It was the first movie written by FRANK MILLER, the comic creator behind SIN CITY and many other great Comics.
Robocop 2 also has some of the best stop motion effects in its final act. Cain was a great villain and scarier than Ed-209 in my opinion.
It was much darker and pulls no punches Robocop 2 was a worthy sequel I mean how do you top the shotgun scene from the 1st film you don't. Robocop 3 was a farse.
T2 was the greatest sequel, followed by Empire Strikes back.. And, despite its problems, I want to give the Matrix 2 some love. It wasn't as so neatly cohesive as 1, but it had a lot of interesting ideas, action sequences, and, unlike 3, that tried to go too epic, and who got weighed down trying tie everything together 2 felt like a foray, further into the IP that had been piqued in 1. It had its own identity, and had my attention for the duration of the run-time. But these are all "great" sequels, not necessarily "underated" ones..🤷♂️
Drinker you read my mind. Predator 2 is so underrated. As a sequal and a Sci Fi horror. I love this movie. It's probably my favorite of the franchise and in my top 5 favorite films. It's just such a bonkers movie with the Jamaican gang (love King Willie and his monolog)and the cops and the feds and the predator...fabulous stuff. Man it's good to see this film get some positive recognition. Absolute classic.
YES! agree 100%. I've always appreciated, enjoyed and defended all these sequels as well. DH2 Pred2 GB2 Especially. Ill even add Robocop 2 to this list.
I went my whole life not knowing Ghostbusters 2 was so widely hated until a couple years ago. I grew up loving it as a kid in the ‘80s and ‘90s.
2010 was a pleasure to watch. The dynamic between John Lithgow and Elya Baskin was phenomenal. To this day I intentionally mix up “piece of cake and easy as pie”. Dana Elcar’s Russian accent nearly caused me to crap myself from laughter.
I also liked the bits where Lithgow asks him how to say things in Russian, and how it came into play during the space walk to the Discovery.
I liked that movie at the time, it was a fresh breath of air in a time full of jingoistic 'Murrica, f*** yeah' Cold War movies, the Leonov became the inspiration for the Babylon 5 Omega Destroyer, and I find that in a time where we are in a proxy war with Russia it has become oddly relevant again.
Almost shockingly good.
I've watched 2010 about once a year since it came out. Absolutely love it and was thrilled to see it featured. Fellow cinephiles always rolls their eyes when I mention it and that's just absurd. It's damn good. Watched it again today, still holds up. I mean, Roy Scheider in anything, yeah?
Roy Scheider is a talented and likable actor.
_2001_ is a movie that cinema snobs fawn over, but I just don't enjoy it. Much rather read the book. I haven't enjoyed any of Kubrick's other films, either. _2010_ is actually fun to watch. The characters actually get to be characters and everything. And the resolution of HAL's subplot ought not be forgotten.
I read 2010 a dozen times, the movie is more than a decent sequel, but it's a really hard to fit pair of shoes.
I LOVE 2010! Easy as cake.
@@eldritch5058😏Piece of pie!
Good list. It's been so long since I've seen the sequels for Rocky, Predator, and Ghostbusters that I could just re-enjoy them from a fresh perspective now. I also never even saw the space odyssey movies. Perhaps I should give them a go also. Thanks for the recs Drinker!
Danny Glover was outstanding in Predator 2. By putting a real actor in the lead, he humanized the story.
The Riddick sequels are pretty underrated. Chronicles was a bold attempt at doing "dark gritty Star Wars" and looks like a masterpiece next to Rebel Moon!
Fair play
Predator 2 expanded the lore of the alien hunter more than any other film before and after. It really drove home that it wasn't muscle or brawn that could defeat the predator, but intellect.
As a kid seeing the group of Predators dap up the main character after killing on of their own was pretty sweet. I definitely wanted to join their gang.
_Predators_ was also awesome in that regard. It was an homage to the first movie, but they relied on their cunning and wits to overpower their captors. It expanded the lore and nailed the atmosphere of the original film to a tee. No idea why the Drinker didn't like it, but whatever. 🤷♂️
Couldn’t agree more, and by changing up location it gave us a look at how the predator hunts in a different kind of jungle. Also it introduced new characters and did something right, which is make me care about the characters and I was upset when they got picked off. Great sequel 😃👍🏼💯
I say this all the time
Predator2 was great, but the best part was the Teri Weigel sex scene!
Greetings noble Drinker. Long time subscriber, first comment post. Nice choice on 2010 Year We Make Contact being an underrated sequel. There is a cinematic tour de force called Surviving the Game starring Ice-T, Gary Busey, Charels S. Dutton; F.Murray Abraham, and Rutger Hauer. I have never in my life seen any mention or analysis of it on KZhead if you care to look into it. Thanks mate for all you do! Cheers.
Totally agree about Ghostbusters II. I avoided it for decades, believing the reputation it had garnered. Then I watched it for the first time just at the end of last year with my 15 year-old daughter who I'd introduced to the original a couple of years ago which she had absolutely loved. Yup - Ghostbusters II really isn't all that bad at all, and I couldn't believe I had denied myself that further slice of goodness for so long.
I saw “2010” in theaters and I thought it was excellent. It’s one of those gems that I love sharing with people.
I missed it in the cinema but my Dad had a DVD and I put it on one day out of curiosity. I agree that it's an excellent film in its own right but being under the shadow of it's predecessor I understand why it's been neglected. My favourite aspect are the relationships between the crew despite the build up to war on Earth. John Lithgow & Elya Baskin becoming firm friends despite the initial frosty reception from the other cosmonauts beautifully highlighted the futility of what is taking place back home.
Of the five sequels in this video, 2010 is easily my favorite.
Also a personal favourite of mine that I can rewatch over and over. Roy Scheider, as one of my all-time favourite actors, also helps.
So glad to see “2010” getting some love. I’d watch Roy Scheider in almost anything and Hal getting his heroic bow makes the movie worth it all by itself. And speaking of watching Roy Scheider in anything I’d add “Jaws 2” to this list. As with all the other films you list it had the impossible task of living up to an original that is legitimately one of the greatest movies of all time. It naturally fails to do so, but taken on its own merits it’s a perfectly serviceable killer shark movie that is vastly superior to modern Jaws knockoffs like “The Meg”.
Jaws 2 is maybe the 2nd best killer shark movie ever... but the gap between that one and the original is huge! The rest are all tied for a distant 3rd. Still, Scheider is amazing -- the scene where he tries to nerve himself to wade into the water to recover a bit of plot-important flotsam is amazingly good, in a small satisfying way.
Poor HAL was driven insane because he was ordered to lie to the original crew, and that really put him in a new perspective and made a lot of sense. I also agree about "Jaws 2", but hey, "The Meg" is still a *fun* knockoff! 😁
@@charlesws7825Yeah, poor HAL, he murdered 4 people in could blood but he was really just misunderstood...or misprogrammed. Clarke had a soft spot for the thing, but to me he'll always be the bad guy.
2001 was one of the few movies that got past my filter where I was genuinely pissed I wasted my time on it. So much promise throughout the journey squandered by a giant VFX barf in place of an ending. Now I'm wondering if 2010 fixes that. Didn't even know it existed
@@SepticFuddy I think of 2001 as an art house movie. 2010 has a very good story but has a good foundation of using 2001 with 'what the hell happened?" I think 2010 does a pretty damn good job of sorting that out.
Heyyy, what a Great video! Seriously, Drinker, I hope you do a sequel to this one, as there are probably enough for a top 10. I REALLY appreciate your inclusion of Rocky 2. That movie has so many great moments, like when Adrian recovers & tells Rocky to win, the end of the fight with Apollo where it comes down to who can get up. Guess I was too young to remember it being panned by critics. In 1981 or 82 it was on Showtime and we watched every time it played. Your analysis at 4:04 min. is much appreciated, with understandings that never occurred to me as a teen. I'm elated that you included 2010: The Year We Make Contact. Agree 1,000%!! Makes me cry every time. And Predator 2. YES, 1,000%!!
Hot take for many people, but Alien³. I actually enjoyed it. Sure, it doesnt compare with the first two, but it's still a good, tense, horror sci-fi movie. And it was in production hell as well, nearly ending Fincher's career.
I agree. Ppl didn’t care for it because they were looking for action like the second movie. If you look at it for what it was it’s amazing
2010 is an amazing movie. The atmosphere breaking scene is incredible! And I have always loved how much is explained and ties up the story. Great video, Drinker!
One sequel I'd add to the list for sure is TRON: Legacy. It's a surprisingly deep and satisfying story about an old man and his son both finding their places in the world, taking on the question of what it really means to be human in an increasingly digital world through the lens of a parent reconciling with his child. It's paired with my favorite-ever sci-fi visual design aesthetic and a famously killer score courtesy of Hans Zimmer and Daft Punk. It fell fairly flat at the box office when it released back in 2010, but with a textbook example of the Joseph Campbell hero circle and incredible VFX that still hold up 14 years later, I will always contend that this movie is scandalously underrated.
Tron Legacy? this isn't a sequel though? To my knowledge its a remake.
@@skorpion7132 No, it's actually a direct sequel to the original TRON. It continues the story of Kevin Flynn some 20 years later.
I love that movie so much. It is easily my second favorite movie! I love watching it late night in the dark. Vibrant visuals, the techno music and all the action just fits in place. Along with a good story line !
I would love a 3rd Tron movie, but looking at RatCorp's recent success rate makes me glad it hasn't happened
@@Dystopia1111 Well, looks like you're going to get your wish. Apparently, the third Tron movie is in the works. Last I heard, it had the working title of TRON: Ares and involved Jared Leto in some way. I don't know exactly what kind of time table they're aiming for, but it may come sometime in the next 2-4 years.
Great video, I agree completely. These are all some of my favourite movies of all time, right up there with their deservedly classic predecesors. Cheers!
I had no Idea that GB2 was disliked, one of my all time favorites and I love it just as much as the first one.
Watching Rocky get mocked while struggling to read almost brings me to tears. Stallone played it perfectly. I love when Adrian backs him up too. The feels...
Stallone can actually act, and act well. He's just not often given the material for it. His breakdown at the end of First Blood was amazing.
@@rmhartman totally. First Blood. Rocky was basically poetry it was so well done. The emotion but restraint. Copland was great.
@@rmhartmanthe First Blood breakdown is phenomenal. I think he's one of those actors who only really fits in particular kinds of roles, but anyone who says he isn't great at what he does well have no idea what they're talking about.
Thank you for listing Ghostbusters 2. I actually enjoyed it when I saw it in theaters and the abandoned subway scene is still legit creepy after all these years.
Agreed. I was 5 years old when it was released and was probably one of the first, if not the first movie I saw in theaters with my dad which helped to spark a lifelong love of the theater and a bonding experience with my father. GBII has always been one of my favorite movies.
A plot thread they hinted at but largely abandoned was Louis Tully and Slimer (who they kind of had to retcon as a "good" or at least less-bad ghost) teaming up.
I was 6 when that movie came out and had to leave the theater because it scared the crap out of me. That part in the sewers and the part where the painting came to life with the creepiest looking dude ever along with the floating baby was hard to take.
That movie gets shit on but it really holds up. Saw it again a couple years ago and it was hilarious.
One of my favorite movie quotes is from GBII and perfectly sums up Egon's character. "We had part of a slinky, but I straightened it."
Oh my god, thank you for talking about Ghostbusters 2! I have always loved it for every reason you stated. Underrated by people who have probably never seen it, or at least haven't seen it since the 90s. Deserves to be rediscovered.
Hi drinker,love your stuff and unfortunatly agree with almost all of it :D,just finished watching Reacher season 2 and damnnnnn its even better than first and wonder if you got around to it,man realy want to see your toughts about it,last episode was bonkers :D keep up with great work ,much love from Croatia :)
2010! I've always thought it deserved way more respect. Cast and acting is A1.
It was truly unfortunate to have lived under the shadow of Stanley Kubrick, 2010 gets unfairly judged because it was thematically different from 2001
@@Duomaxwell02M I thought 2010 was more of a political thriller and a decent one. Removing the 2001 elements from the story wouldn't have harmed the film and would have allowed it to be judged on its own merits.
I have a giant Vigo The Carpathian portrait on my wall. 😆 He definitely wasn't a forgettable villain for me - as a kid, the idea of a genocidal tyrant confined to live in his own portrait and trying to possess a baby so he could be fully reborn kinda stuck with me. And his whole "On a mountain of skulls, in the castle of pain...." opening monologue I thought was heavy metal as fuck haha! 🤘
The actor that played Vigo played a henchman in Die Hard, I think he is the guy that dies in the explosion from the PC monitor and C-4.
Same. I got a painting hanging on my wall, and have been contemplating on putting an LED light behind it to illuminate Vigo at night LMAO
I lost my virginity to a girl who looked like him. I even gave her the nickname. Ah the 90s.
“It looks like it’s covered in a giant jello mold.”
Imo both Ghostbusters don’t really ride on the back of their villains. Gozer the Gozerian is more or less just a special effect and not really a great villain. But his job isn’t to carry the plot, he only needs to be the iceberg on the path to hit the titanic for what the movie needs.
The fact that carl weathers shows up twice on this this list is more then enough justice to give him a star on the hollywood hall of fame. Bro is an absolute legend and appreciate predator 1 immensely. Give him his dues.
See him in "action Jackson".
I'm glad you mentioned Ghostbusters 2. That's my favorite Ghostbusters, I genuinely like it more than the original. I haven't seen 2010 but all these sequels that I have seen are pretty damn good movies, and mostly the best case scenarios for following up the absolute monoliths of their first installments.
The Drinker is a passionate fan of CINEMA. He loves the medium as he loves Jack Daniel’s and to me this is enough. Deep respect for the man.
Glad to see a classic OG style Drinker video on the main channel. Would love to see more resurgence of this with the channel.
12 minutes without a single use of ‘The Message’. Just good solid film talk. So refreshing!
@@arkdeniz I wish he'd focus on this kind of content and not whining about teh woke it's so boring at this point
@@Vivi_9 the problem with that is the majority of viewers are only on these channels to suck up that sort of anti-woke garbage so that they know what sort of opinions to have about everything. They're not interested in anything that actually has to do with cinema.
Bill Paxton was in The Terminator, Aliens, and Predator 2. Man was a legend.
Wonderful list. I wasn't even aware half of these were "hated" on. Absolutley mindboggling
Alien 3. I'll defend that film until my dying breath. Amazing soundtrack, deeply unnerving atmosphere, excellent performances all around and a gutpunch of an ending. People only gripe about it since a couple of characters from Aliens are offed in the opening scene. If you can swallow that, which is understandably hard, it's a masterful gem of a sci fi film and an excellent addition to the series.
I love Alien 3. it'll always have a soft spot in my heart as I was entering H.S. when that came out. the days of videotaping off of HBO. Alien 3 is well put together and probably served as an inspiration to Alien Isolation the survival horror game. also yes i'm catching some of the Soundtrack in my head...it was epic.
Was originally gonna be set on a wooden planet. Not joking.
@@mroctober3657 Yeah, i read about that. Sounds silly conceptually but would've made for a visualy striking film. Apparently all the characters were like monks or something too.
I think it’s a pretty solid film, even more once you see the backstage turmoil They did the survivors of Aliens dirty, though
"2010" is definitely underrated. With all the good things you talk about, I would like to call out the scene where they dock with Discovery as a true excellent piece of cinema that captured the fear of a bizarre and dangerous setting (and John Lithgow did an tremendous job!). The scene doesn't add a whole lot to the overall plot, but it's a great slice of life showing a difficult situation in a realistic and compelling way.
As a sequel to 2001 it did deserve the not measuring up verdict, no movie could have, but as a stand alone it was a good movie.
Also, "air breaking"!
"Will I dream?" Holy sh!t, I almost teared up at that, and it's just a computer talking!
I was disappointed that Predator 2 didn't receive the same warm reception that the first movie did. Glover and the other cast members did a damn good job and so did the Predator actor. Ghostbusters 2 does deserve a rewatch from me.
Rocky 2 made me cry and I appreciated scenes in which Rocky reads for his wife and when she woke up from coma and motivated Rocky to fight, I felt it. And when their son was born, it was perfect.