Sometimes to really appreciate the scale of a disaster, you need to break it down a little. So it back and enjoy as I examine a key scene from Rebel Moon Part 2 - possibly the dumbest 3 minutes in cinema history.
Sometimes to really appreciate the scale of a disaster, you need to break it down a little. So it back and enjoy as I examine a key scene from Rebel Moon Part 2 - possibly the dumbest 3 minutes in cinema history.
1. Kills innocent child she was assigned to protect. 2. Spares villain due to emotions. 3. Kills random Empire employees on her way out.
Ah ha. She had the villain arc all along!
truly a modern hero.
@@Dipj01 Modern Heroine.
@@MegaCityPatrolpretty sure it was written by a mentally ill, narcissistic troon.
When the hero of your story is a sadistic psychopath. And kinda thick too.
The dumbest scene was watching farmers in the far future collecting their harvest by hand in slow motion and chucking it unto a levitating cart. Instead of using a single combine harvester.
Unfortunately the future EPA cracked down on combine emissions.
@@dr.emilschaffhausen4683 ha-ha!
@@dr.emilschaffhausen4683 But COAL burning SPACE ships are fine because SPACE? What about the SPACE Environment????? Where is the SPACE EPA???
and the galactic spanning empire that’s somehow dependent on such backwards worlds
The farmers harvesting is a perfect example of unrealistic fantasy... two completely different timelines merged into one with zero logic. The equivalent of flying cars needing to use a manual crank for providing air conditioning.
I was particularly fond of the scene where one of the rebels sees the main bad guy escaping on a ship, throws his perfectly working gun down and jumps aboard the ship to have a fist fight. Then after being beaten half to death, pulls out a knife.
Omg I can't stop laughing. It hurts
Ohno...
😂😂😂😂😂😂
I reckon the KZhead comments on this movie are better than the actual movie
Thats like in every movie nowadays
The thing that really makes no sense is why Belaserious? does the whole "SHE'S THE ASSASSIN. SIEZE HER. SHE'S THE KILLER." bit when I assume everyone in the room was in on his scheme. I mean, they were all there. They all participated in the assassination. Who is he trying to convince? It's not like they all just walked in the room and found the king and his family dead on the floor, wondering "Who would do such a thing?"
Don't worry the extended directors cuts will explain everything......right?
he missed one major thing in this video, head bags on those musicians have one eye symbolism on them which explains who actually directed this movie
Brainwashing or making them buy into their own propaganda. It's much easier to do the wrong thing when you're convinced you're the good guy. You see it all the the time in tyrannical regimes in movies and such. Invent an enemy and pretend that everyone that is not with you are really the problem.
@@outlawedTV88A... I?
*seize :)
Friend described the 1st Rebel Moon very eloquently: “Imagine if Star Wars, Dune, and the Chronicles of Riddic had a child… with special needs.”
Hahaha 😂 That's pure gold
Damnnnn 😂😂😂😂
Perfect.
Don't forget Harry Potter and literally gladiator
😂😂😂😂😂😂
Refuses to kill the guy actually responsible for the deaths of the king and queen, but perfectly happy to slaughter her way off the ship, with the majority of her kills being people that in no way were complicit. Yep, sounds about right.
Such a good point 😂
that is some new starwars trilogy type shit
He played Last of Us part 2 before making the film and was deeply inspired by the ending.
Which also reinforced the bad guys narrative that she was the one who did it. If I was there and saw her massacre her way through the ship killing my friends and then was told she killed the king I would 100% believe it and so would anyone else they told.
The entertainment industry is so narcissistic that no one in it has ANY clue what a hero is. They can't muster the level of selflessness required, so they can't write heroes.
The musicians playing the music that WAS the soundtrack was it for me. This is Lesley Nielson/Naked Gun level where he's walking alone doing a voice monologue with a blues trumpet in the soundtrack and he turns the corner and sees a trumpet busker is actually playing the tune. LMAO.
As an electric bassist, I can play (even on a fretless instrument) without looking at the instrument but I do have to say changing my tempo based on the pace of the stabbing festival would be difficult.
That's the only part of the video that really bothered me. I mean, if you're a musician so skilled that they let you perform in front of the Emperor, you will 100% be able to play your instrument blindfolded.
In fact most musicians who were taught by reading sheet music don't look at their instruments while they play. Can you imagine a flutist trying to look at their fingers to make sure they're on the right keys?
@@RaspberryRockOffGridCabin not entirely true - they often need to look when the first bring the instrument up to their lips. At least, a lot of guitarists (yes, even professional ones) - might glance at the fret board when starting a solo. That's why luminlays exist. But yeah - once oriented on the instrument, you generally don't need to look.
@@skierst It doesn't look like any of the orchestra can actually play, either. Though at least the women are holding their instruments mostly correctly. They should have just got some college kids, paid them with pizza, and you wouldn't have to get any props since they bring their own.
First time playing for stabfest?
The dumbest scene in movie history is "Somehow Palpatine returned." and I will die on that hill.
I think the scene in 'Highlander 2' when it's revealed that the immortals are in fact alien criminals incarcerated on the prison planet 'Earth' must rate
Depending on how much of a Star Wars nerd you are (or were, now), such as myself, I tie it between that, and in The Last Jedi, the evil "Supremacy" and its entire support fleet, crewed and led by white men, getting hyperspace rammed and destroyed by a literal purple haired nonbinary space lesbian in a "maneuver" that there is no way she could have known it would work how it did. However cool that scene LOOKED, and in all fairness sure the actual impact LOOKED and sounded cool, it still completely annihilated and invalidated 99% of the Star Wars space battle lore, especially considering despite them literally saying in the start of RoS that "That was a one in a million fluke" or whatever AS AN EXCUSE FOR why they don't just use it to solve every single problem in the movie, like just taking a few small ships and ramming Palpatine's whole fleet at Exogol, (they are literally all just sitting there in rows asking for it LOL) we see at the end of Rise of Skywalker that it is in fact just a normal thing now; any larger capitol ship/dreadnought and probably even death star sized space station can be easily annihilated by anything larger than a fighter just going lightspeed at it. There is zero reason why people wouldn't start just manufacturing Clone Wars-esque drone ships that are little more than maneuverable hyper drives, whose sole purpose is to ram larger enemy vessels, since it apparently even goes through their shields. Anyways, "Somehow Palpatine returned" is probably still worse... Oscar deserved better LOL.
@@thehoerscorral8565 Don't forget, in that "movie" Oscar also had to deliver the line "Nav can't tell which way's up out there." He should probably sue.
@@packman7631 LOL he definitely needs to at least fire his agent. Between this and Moon Knight they are clearly huffing some of that GOOD good from Disney.
Dumbest Line in A Franchise, at least!
I absolutely love when a main character kills like 150 henchmen, sees the main big bad and randomly develops a moral compass and decides not to kill him, then proceeds to kill another 100 henchmen.
You see, henchmen aren't _really_ people, so they don't count. They probably don't even have names.
I too am a The Last of Us 2 enjoyer. :^)
oh and the unarmed space submarine engineers as well - to make her look tough
This kindve hole-riddled writing is excusable for video games because of the gameplay mechanic argument and cut scenes being viewed through a different lens, but with Film/TV they have no excuse to drop coherent written characterization.
Snyder has been doing this ever since the dceu.
My girl saw this film on Netflix and said she loved the costumes and wanted to try it out. One of the first scenes she's talking about how she's so strong and bad ass and how she was taught that love was weakness and before I could even finish rolling my eyes she turns to me and goes "I seriously hate this girl... can we turn this off?" Tell me you married a winner without telling me...
Lol I barely made it till 40 minutes of the movie with my girl, none of us liked it but for different reasons of a trash movie.😊
The fact watched it at all. Tell your a loser without telling me. Lol
@@papayaman78 you're*
Not on this movie but as we walked out of Dune 2 my wife said "god if only the movie didn't have that annoying girl that looks like a man" Pretty self explanatory
@lourencomurteira9353 ? What "girl that looks like a man"? By far the biggest downturn for everyone I talked to about the film was Paul's sudden change in behaviour and how he treated her tbf
A super technologically advanced empire going through so much effort over grain is like saying the empire from Star Wars exists only to collect toilet paper. 🤦♂️
Yeah lmao and the fact they have to almost beg for it from a bunch of farmers who refuse to use modern technology but ... actually they don't. They live this rural old lifestyle but then use hover-carts to throw their crops in rather than something with maybe less independence on technologically advanced spare parts. It's sort as inconsequential like the rest of the movie.
That's pretty much what I said. They have interstellar travel, but no capacity to grow food on this enormous ship? I mean, we can make meat in a lab now. Then I saw that the ships were powered by coal and I said oh never mind logic isn't important apparently carry on.
This scene is perfect Drinker. You just have to watch the director's cut to fully get it
rELeAsE tHe SnYdERCuT
It's 20 minutes long and mostly slow motion.
@@hariman7727 all slow motion pls
I wonder if Drinker will do a scene analysis for his movie, Rogue Elements? Lol movie looks just as bad.
Needed to be black and white
Drinker, I've long believed the "dumbest scene" was the "world class scientists" removing their helmets to fondle an alien live form in Prometheus - but this new scene gives it a run for its money.
Sometimes you just gotta squish the squishy
The geologist who just mapped the cave system with 3 drones gets immediately lost.
I'll give you that that scene is dumber , but I think "Covenant" has a funnier scene when that dumb bytch slips and falls twice in the same blood puddle! 😆😆😂😂😂
My 1st watch of Prometheus, I loved it! 2nd time, I was like “Wait a minute… why did he? Why did she? Why did they?” The 3rd time, I loved it even more for how fucking stupid the actual plot was and just relished in all the stupid death cuz of stupidity…haha
@BeatsAndMeats 3 times? Jesus. I saw it once in theaters, then had nothing to say to my family the entire ride home. I wanted to forget that movie as fast as possible Great costume design though
You missed the best part, the princess saying ”I forgive you”. You know because when someone destroys everything that you hold dear that’s the first thing that comes to mind.
She's the female Jesus.
A little known fact: the RMS Titanic also used Kali's as a propulsion system... the boiler rooms were just for show.
A villain being so far up his own ass that he literally has his own traveling orchestra to hype him up us actually such a cool concept. But unfortunately it's terribly executed here.
They did it FAR better with the flame thrower guitarist and drummers who accompany the bad guy in Fury Road.
Mad Max.
The orchestra's rehearsals were the most intricate part of his plan. Twelve hundred pages of music were written and rehearsed based on every possible outcome.
@@derkeheath5172 The doof warrior in Fury road served a purpose, his guitar playing communicates to all the other drivers what orders to follow.
that put the image of Darth Vader descending down from his imperial shuttle ramp with a homeboy several steps behind him holding a boom box over his head blasting "the imperial march" music.
Zach Snyder cured me of my depression by giving me PTSD with this film
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Modern problems require modern solutions. 🤪
not sure why anyone would even watch Rebel Moon... unless chained to a wall with their eyelids torn off. I would rather pull weeds in the backyard as compared to watching Rebel Moon.
You wanted to end it all, now you want it all to end.
@@ballixman6587😂😂😂😂😂😂
I genuinely feels like Zack read one WH40k novel once and made up the entire story without thinking it through.
Thank you Drinker, you single handed have restored my faith in journalistic integrity. I haven’t read or listened to a professional critic anywhere In any website or paper in 20 years because they are so obviously either weighed off or politicized. Please keep going!
Kills an innocent child. Can't pull the trigger 10 seconds later on the bad man who just betrayed her. Ok, sure.
Well this could work - with better characters (and someone else than Hack Snyder): The movies establish that Kora was raised by Bad Guy - after he lead the troops that killed her parents. So if there were scenes indicating that Belisarius did not only raise her as his personal killing-machine, but also looked like he really cared for her, then this would be believable. The obvious comparison would be Gamora and Thanos: Gamora hated what he did (and what he made her do), so she killed the illusion-Thanos in Infinity War when she saw her chance. But she was obviously distressed afterwards. Because he wasn't just a monster. He really loved her (in his twisted way). I don't know ... since Snyder has stitched this movie together from so many better things it's possible that he really used Gamora as "inspiration" - but like with everything else forgot to have it make sense in his universe.
Did Neil Druckmann write this? 🧐
@@lordmontymord8701eh doesn’t matter where he got the inspiration and even gamora tried to kill thanos so that comparison you’re trying to do is pretty invalid just say what it is a dumb character written by a dumb creator 😊
Perfectly fits my understanding of women throughout my life, what's your point? /sk but completely true as well.
@@JadeRunnerdude, Neil is not THIS bad
I'm surprised Disney refused this script. It's so bad it would fit in perfectly.
The director was the wrong shade and had the wrong private bits to fit the checklist.
It is said that Disney likes to have final creative control over its projects and so does Snyder over his and that was allegedly the reason why Disney ultimately refused Snyder working for Star Wars.
Rebell moon is way too edgy, Disney usually tries to keep a family friendly image, especially because the script was intented as a star wars movie
A straight white male who doesn't identify as anything else ? that's all Disney look at when it comes to hiring.
With over 20 minutes of slowmo scenes, you know it would’ve been a huge money maker at the theaters
Main girl looks like UFC’s Light Heavy Champ Alex Periera Also your Titanic example was spot on. Bernard Hill just died- Rest In Peace Théoden King 🫡
I saw the trailer for this , heard the name, saw the wannabe "lightsabers" and space theme and couldn't bring myself to watch it at all...and i watched Moonfall lol
On another note, I like to think the reason why the grain is so important to the empire is because Zack read/watched Dune before making Rebel Moon and thought "Hey, that Spice stuff is pretty cool. Let's put it in my movie as well, but a bit different." He who controls the grain, controls the universe. This is probably not the case, but we're talking about Zack Snyder, so everything is possible.
I could easily believe this
Grain Brain Drain
The grain extendes life The grain expanse consciousness The grain is bright for bakery
And I bet you when Rebel Moon 3 comes out there will be a scene where the evil bad guy will come out and say "I got worms! Big ones"
I think he just watched Interstellar and saw corn and cornfields so he pulled a ctrl+c ctrl+v.
So she murders an innocent child, decides not to kill the treacherous villain who betrayed her for… reasons. Then decides to slaughter countless ship crew members who did her no wrong whatsoever. Is this the protagonist we are supposed to root for and hope that nothing awful happens to her?
Of course, because representation!
Don't ask questions, just consume and get excited for next thing ;)
She's padding her resume to become a cop.
Honestly, lost all interest in this gal when she murders a child.
She may as well have been the villain
This is like a “Naked Gun” parody of Caesar’s death with all the jokes removed
Coincidentally, Frank Drebin once saved a guy in a public park from being stabbed to death by a few men dressed in togas.
5:18 Tragically, this couple are apparently also depictions of real life events. These are Isa and Isidor Strauss, who were incredibly wealthy husband and wife couple who owned the Macy's toy store in Chicago along with Isidor's brother. The two had been married for over forty years, and when the Titanic was sinking, despite Isidor urging her to board a boat to safety, Ida insisted on remaining by her husband's side in their final moments. In an ironic quirk of fate, their great-great granddaughter would lose her husband, Richard Rush, in the OceanGate submersible. ... I'd literally rather talk about anything other than Rebel Moon.
Ah yes. Belisarius. Sharing his name with Byzantine general that famously DID NOT betray his emperor when tempting opportunity arose.
O M G XD
Subverting expectations is always good, don’t you know?
Not only that, but the emperor betrayed _him_ out of insecurity, causing Byzantium/Rome’s hero to die poor. He was horribly wronged by this betrayal, and then Zack goes and gives his name to the traitor in his story. That’s just really gross to me.
But he IS sharing his name with an infamous Magos biologis that somehow managed to mass produce a supposedly better version of spacemarines (which would of course mean he improved on the work of the EMPEROR) complete with all new and improved armor, weapons and even vehicles. A magos biologis with the most contrived backstory ever contrived in the deepest and darkest dungeons of GW and plot armor thicker than donald trump.
@@tranquilthoughts7233 Self-insert?
I'll give Snyder some credit for creating movies that will have the audience arguing over which is the worst scene. That's almost an accomplishment in itself.
It’s the only reason I still watch his movies, they actually make for a great conversation topic if your friends are movie buffs cause you can talk endlessly about which superior movies Snyder tried to rip off.
You make Zac Snyder sound like a more prolific version of Tommy Oiseau (the director of The Room, for the benefit of anyone wondering). And if my spelling of either name is wrong, it's because I don't care enough to get it right.
Sucker punch…. The whole thing: worst ever.
@@kevstacey8639 Tommy Wiseau was hilariously bad, turning a boring cliché romantic drama into a dark comedy. Snyder's movies are just bland and boring, with stupid unnecessary amounts of slow-mo.
snyder only made 4 or 5 good movies 2 of them are opinionized for being good or bad Dawn of the Dead (wasn't even made by him really) 300 watchmen sucker punch (opinionized) man of steel (opinionized)
that flashback was actually my favourite part of the movie. Having it cut back to the smuggler who looked like he had fallen asleep during it made me laugh out loud.
Mel Brooks made a great diegetic sound joke in "Blazing Saddles." Cleavon Little is proudly riding through the desert on his way to become the new sheriff of Rock Ridge while we hear Count Basie's Orchestra playing his classic tune "April in Paris." It's just standard movie music until Cleavon trots past the Basie band on a bandstand in the desert, and exchanges warm greetings with the Count.
Yes, classic. But like everything with Mel Brooks, done with a heavy hand. Have you ever watched the deleted scenes from Young Frankenstein? Horrendous!
"Well, we booked the musicians a few months back, before we decided it was going to be an assassination. The cancelation fee would have been *huge.*"
Galactic
"What do you fellows get an hour?" "Oh, for playing we get ten dollars an hour. "I see. What do you get for NOT playing?" "TWELVE dollars an hour. Now for rehearsing we make a special rate. That's fifteen dollars an hour." "That's for rehearsing?" "That's'a for rehearsing." "And what do you get for NOT rehearsing? "You couldn't afford it. You see, if we don't rehearse, we don't play; and if we don't play, that runs into money."
well its what villains do. some of them do it for the spectical rather then practicality because thats what they do.
5th element has a killer diegetic moment w the blue diva towards the end
Absolutely. That movie rocked even while trying not to
YES, a great example.
The red wedding was the example that jumped into my head.
And I'll have to admit, I hated that scene with the Diva's song and dance. The only thing that saves the moment is LeeLoo's fight.
Wasn't there some radio sound in No Country For Old Men and nothing else resembling music?
Rebel Moon 1 and 2 are so despicable that they deserve the Golden Raspberry Awards.
I'm so glad you done this haha! The scene that got me was the unnecessarily lengthy crop harvesting montage that looked like the combination of an unedited perfume spec and a rejected beer commercial. That's when I suddenly remembered that I had made the same mistake as I did with the first Rebel Moon.
This scene was fucking baffling. I laughed and was like "What? WHAAAAAAAAAT?!"
"If the studio interfered, it would've felt like a film made by a focus group" Brother Zack, not only are YOU the focus group, you're the entire upper executive committee with a sprinkle of writing input from Chat-GPT.
Lmao..true..that man is crazy
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You got it: that 'writing team in the shadows'--DEPLOY
I swear even AI can make a better movie than this
That's the most brutal condemnation of a director I've ever heard
I swear to god if I get a notification from netflix saying Rebel Moon part 3 is coming soon I will officially give up on cinema.
I've already given up on Hollywood. Join me, there's more fun in the not Hollywood realm.
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@@hariman7727 Yup already there, myself. Have you guys heard of this thing called "outside" ? There's one really big shiny thing but otherwise it's pretty cool
Netflix is TV not cinema this is a TV movie.
I wouldn't put it beyond them
In Family Guy, Brian takes Ritalin to "help him focus," and creates an insane, mashed-together sci-fantasy world to present to George R.R. Martin called "Space Shire-7." That was a more coherent universe than this one.
I am afraid too much credit is being given assuming the director is referencing Ceasar's assassination and diagetic sound. I think it's more likely he was riffing on the red wedding from GOT for both daggers and orchestra.
Nah, it's probably Caesar. I mean the bad guy's name is Roman (as a matter of fact, it's the name of a succesful, and unusually honorable general), and the other conspirators are dressed in toga.
Also hilarious how Zach clearly wanted a quartet, but they could only find 3 people who knew how to play a stringed instrument . Second guy from the right is just holding his bow ham fistedly and sawing back and forth across the strings 😂😂😂
Hilarious ahaha u cannot make this shit up.
Sawing 😂😂😂 Good one!
@@arundarcybot
@@internetexplorer3596 Yup...
That's because it's the rarest of instruments -- the ham string.
YESSSSS LONG DRINKLER
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Hi Mauler I watched some you're videos my favorite is the last Jedi one 😂😂
@@bigguy4x418 dude, type correctly next time
Libel lawsuit when, Mauler? 🤣
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The point is that without this bs of a movie and BS of a scene we would not have had this amazing and entertaining video that is 100 times better in eleven minutes than the movie itself
“Original does not mean good” - Bo Burnham
The titanic band played music because they were trapped and had no way out but the rebel moon band kept playing in the face of a firefight they could have run from. Truly inspiring dedication to their craft.
True legends
They can also HEAR everything in this room just fine. Like they can't hear their king and his family walking in, talking, then clearly getting betrayed? Honestly bagging their heads does fucking nothing. Well it makes them look retarded, but that was a given.
One violinist running off would have been DELIGHTFUL! XD
And adapting the piece to the ongoing action on the fly… now that takes mastership. Unless Belisarius knew exactly how things were going to go down and had this dramatic musical score composed beforehand. Seems risky though. Someone might overhear them rehearsing and warn the king.
I believe they were prisoners, but still.
Zach Snyder has slowly descended into being Uwe Boll with a big budget.
Spot on.
Daaaaaaaamn
Ascended to Uwe Boll*
Bolls to the wall
Slowly? Descended?
I thought Rebel Moon part 1 was stupid, so I refused to even think about watching this. I'm glad I chose to watch old Magnum PI (original series) episodes instead!
One weird thing is that Zach has a directors cut for Rebel Moon. I thought he made the JL Zander Cut because during the time of the first JL they wouldn’t let him do his image and he was going through a hard time and now he’s just making them because he can.
The scene where sword Bae is fighting 5 men alone and there are like 20 villagers hiding behind tables with guns not even trying to help while she gets hacked apart was another crowning achievement in "Why?"
There is so many dumb nonsensical scenes that it looks like not just a matter of laziness but a genuine problem with Zack's brain.
They hyped her up for two films only for her to go out like a complete chump to some rando with a beard. Doesn't help that a capable soilder was hiding in the back with the others without doing anything to support her.
I hated that scene with all my being. also she has robot arms with decades of battle tactiics and TWO BURNING BLADES and failed to kill dudes in a 1v1 fight that were using only 1 so fucking stupid.
bEcAUse StRonG fEMailE chAracTeR DoEseNT neEd HeLP
Why was she soo shit at fighting. She can't defeat one guy or alien without help. In the first movie she was like revenge is bad, but her whole backstory and action in the movies is taking revenge. Make it make sense Also the robot arms taught her to fight by using her blood, after she cut of her arms??
Snyder managed to make the first AI generated film and he didn’t even need to use AI. Incredible.
AI would probably make lasers come out of guns in a straight line.
The funny thing is, AI would have come up with a better movie lmao
He got the Artificial right. But I fail to see any Intelligence.
He did use AI. Authentic Idiocy.
It's a reverse Turing Test. A movie so bad that it convinces the audience that it was made by AI
3:25 I wish you'd let that scene go a little longer where he says, "are you kidding me?" something like that That's the best part.
Tell us how you really feel!! Love this! Thx for making my day
2:10 Wait, the traitor is named Belisarius? Forget the quality of these movies. The fact a villain is named for one of history’s most capable and noble generals - who was constantly undermined by his own emperor and hi subordinates - is egregious.
Maybe Snyder secretly hates Don Bellisario and/or his naval-themed television products.
You realise now that Snyder is that edgy and petty?
Honestly that just convinced me that Rebel Moon was more of a 40k ripoff than anything.
@@josephfisher426but…why?
You know he just got a list of names of prominent Romans, threw a dart, and went "Yeah, that one" and moved on.
Know what makes this even worse? They didn't bother to get actual musicians to play the parts and the music doesn't match the movements of the bows and fingers. Then again, it is four people producing the sound of a string orchestra.
dont think anyone really thinks about that
Yeah, that's what got me most
@@vsluj3508I think ZS relied on not thinking when he made this movie.
Three of them look like they at least know how to hold their bows correctly while the other one is holding it like a screwdriver. I wouldn't be surprised if that was Snyder under that hood thinking it was a clever way to get himself on screen with no one realizing he had.
@@vsluj3508 Anyone who watches Two Set Violin would have thought about that.
I can just picture zack sitting in a dark room, empty bottle at his feet, head in his hands sobbing lightly...watching your videos over and over again... 😂
"But you think it's superficially cool? Yes! Mission accomplished." - Zac 🤣
"You SERIOUS?!" "BELA-serious."
I’m not just sure. I’m hiv-positive.
@@samaritan_sys Hive positive, which insect?
Nice one.
When the orchestra started playing the dramatic music, I started laughing my ass off to the point of insanity. Snyder has truly achieved making a movie so bad that its impossible not to rip apart
It was some brilliant unintentional comedy, like a gag from The Naked Gun films.
damn, you make me kinda want to watch this dumpster fire.
@@MrNegativecreep07if only they'd had a sequence where they keep adding stuff to their knives until they had guns. I'm still confused as to why Jimmy Carr's grown a beard and decided to play the bad guy in a mediocre Netflix Star Wars ripoff.
Someone should make a clip of the assassination scene, but recut it with different music. Like maybe "The Gonk", "Yakety Sax", or "Tuba Smarties".
I love your content Drinker, keep it up fella!
I swear, I saw this and cannot even remember ANY of the scenes your showing here. And I was SOBER.
I absolutely despise it when a character has a every single chance to kill the villain but doesn't for no good reason.
Right there with ya. I almost always just shot the movie off at that point.🤦
It's a pet peeve of mine, honestly.
Yeah, especially when they don't mind killing "random" other people.
It's always "I would be just as bad as you" while standing on a mountain of dead henchmen.
Agreed about the protagonist not offing the antagonist at the earliest opportunity. A tertiarily-related moment is the fate of Richard Chance in "To Live and Die in L.A." A very unexpected thing happens, and it's perfect.
As a violinist for over thirty years, I can tell you that none of those actors in the orchestra had any idea how to play a stringed instrament.
As a violinist you should know that it's a quartet - not exactly an orchestra.
Yup, let alone blindfolded! Besides they aren't going to pay for a genuine quartet.....
Hence the bags over their heads. Even the actors thought it so stupid that they didn’t want to be recognised in the film for fear of ridicule.
@@RonCondon If there's no sheet music or conductor, you don't need to see to play your instrument.
@@Dori-Ma Considering that they have to change their music depending on what's going on around them, they do have to see. But apparently that doesn't matter, lol.
I was shocked by the army robot turning up at the end and joining the good guys. It was so unexpected, no foreshadowing or clues at all!
You're so right CD 🍻. I watched perhaps 45 minutes of that rubbish before I had to hit the bottle and come to my senses. Why was I trying to watch this? Once again You've saved me some valuable time. Thank you my good man.
So when she blew up the engine and apologized, she was apologizing to the engine because it’s sentient and she had to kill it. You know it would’ve made that moment a little bit more impactful if at any point in time, we were told that the engines were sentient beings.
If they're sentient, then are they also technically chain smokers...lol!?
It also would have worked better if she hadn't killed innocent people along the way.
The engine being sentient was removed and can only be found in the Snyder cut now.
Sentient coal eating goddesses? Or do the goddesses power the engine and the coal plant just power the every day functions? I got to get off this thread for a while for a half a second it started to make sense
Hmm…you’re totally right. But did you catch that “Kali” is like the Hindi goddess???? dId Ya?! 😂 So lemme get this straight, this girl murdered the magic princess, carelessly kills most people on the ship in order to escape the coup d’état, but then feels bad about killing…the brave little toaster who is running the engine of the ship? Is this character development or stupidity?
That was one of the most *VENOMOUS* "Go away now" I ever heard him say 😮
He's been upping his G.A.N. game lately
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@@RocafellaPlaza82 Not Yet
The enormous space ship with the enormous gun moved into position by hand wheels and targeted by eye. I swear I could feel my brain shrink watching this.
Wow, I really felt the anger in your voice when you said "GO AWAY NOW!" Must be a pile a of crap of a movie.
You know, in my 40 years of watching movies with Cary Elwes in them, I always thought his death in Twister was the dumbest that ever happened to him. Thank you, Zack, for changing that.
Shut your mouth, keep your foot on the gas and do what I say. LOOK OUT(They're dead)😂
Except Twister doesn't suck.
@@hightreason7934 True
Glory and men in tights are my favorites
@@hightreason7934 I never said it did. Twister was my childhood. Elwes was an awesome antagonist.
I personally like how she points her gun at a guard and the badly done laser bolt comes out at a completely wrong angle - chef's kiss.
Like, how did that make it through quality control?
@@Rearmostbean They didn't have the money left over for QC.
I was just about to comment the same! It's things like that that really show how much they cared about the viewer - this is such a bad movie on so many levels.
@@paulmurgatroyd6372 nobody who watches this kinda cartoon garbage cares about quality.
7:45 - What were the bodyguards doing? I'm going to assume they were in on the plot and were standing back to let it play out, but Our Hero wasn't paying attention to that part of the briefing.
Also, during the final fight, she ditches the laser guns and uses the hot laser swords like wtf? 😂 The technology is so advance, travel into space and they use WWII diesel tanks😂😂 Really hilarious
A highly decorated veteran who points her gun trembling like a toddler playing with a nerf blaster. That single cringe moment sums up everything...
That was the main thing I noticed too. You don't even have to know guns well to handle a firearm - pretend or not - better than that.
Ugh I noticed that too. So bad, so.. amateur
The prop was even to heavy for the wohman warrior.
I was on a Zoom call with colleagues where I was telling them that Rebel Moon 2 was "an insult to the entire art of filmmaking and indeed the art of story telling itself, dating all the way back to Homer and beyond." Someone came onto the call having just heard that part of the sentence and said, "Oh, are we talking about Rebel Moon?"
I'll take "things that never happened" for $400, Alex.
Never happened
You two must get invited to all of the parties due to how fun you both are.
@@octogigasok, here’s one: you getting laid. $400 please
People still use Zoom?
OMG! Boilers! Glowing girls! Weird light sabre shite! That orchestra reminds me of the pianist on Eyes Wide Shut. And how did that woman shoot up a room with a pistol and then leave it with a dock-off huge man-rifle hanging off her shoulder? So glad you watched this 'series' of movies in my stead. Drinker, you did me a service there.
More emotion in me listening to 2 minutes of drinker explaining the Titanic muscians than what I felt watching Rebel Moon 2
Drinker: "Why is an advanced starship run on coal??" Snyder: "Good question. You can ask me that after you've watched the Director's Super Cut."
You need steam to mix with certain other elements to created the fuel for the light-drive. (That was the best I could come up with on short notice.) Signed-Richard
@@user-xf2my3hq8x Ah yes, Steam, chemical symbol St on the periodic table. Also known as 'hot air' or the crap coming out of Zack Snyder.
They have the technology to make an advance Starship but couldn't even bother with nuclear energy What kind of universe is that?
@@theunknowman12 a Snyderverse
@@theunknowman12 It is more advanced then that, but they need the Coal and it has to be a certian temp, that only Coal can get to perfectly. Signed-Richard. Blame the Scientist that invented it.
Star Wars fans: "Nothing will ever be worse than 'Somehow, Palpatine returned!'" Zack Snyder: "SLLLLOOOOOOOOOOWWWWWWLLLLLY hold my beer!"
To be honest, the expectations for Star Wars are not even comparable to whatever Zack shits out of his dumb brain nowadays.
Haha ! Also, even Rey's combats in EP 8 probably where more inspiring and less violating our suspension of disbelief than what we are seeing here.
Star wars are worse
The thing that this doesn't have is it cannot retroactively destroy people's childhoods. Star wars was a betrayal of decades of customers emotional investment.
Zack has made a sh*t sandwich of his own, but Disney pooped on what was a perfectly good hamburger.
A fantastic example of diegetic sound used properly (magnificently, I dare say) was The Red Wedding episode, in Game of Thrones. Both the audience and the characters hear “The Rains of Castamere” playing in the background as Frey and Bolton finally reveal their betrayal. Amazingly done. That’s how you do it.
Yup. And there it made sense, because: A, (for the obvious reasons) there were no stray bullets that could hit them B, the plan was to let literally EVERYONE know what happened, not keeping it a secret
I still can't believe a bunch of simple farmers I never cared about were able to harvest an entire field, barricade a town, rescue a flying ship in the mountains, train to become fighters, dig a network of undeground tunnels and hold 2 feasts in just 5 days.
Also, what was their plan on the long run? I mean in The Magnificent Seven and The Seven Samurai the heroes defended the village from bandits. When you kill bandits, the other bandits will avoid your village. But here? Okay, they won one battle against one dreadnought. What's next? The evil Galactic Emp... I mean Motherworld will just let them stay free without retaliating for their insubordination?
I've said it before but Snyder's biggest problem other than writing his own dialogue and being given too much creative control, is that he always goes with what looks cool, but his idea of cool hasn't been relevant for almost 2 decades at this point.
Snyder's biggest problem is he's really bad at his job.
@@3rdPartyIntervener ... he needs to find another job, preferably away from entertainment .... stacking shelves or something
This scene genuinely looks like a parody, something out of a Space Balls or The Naked Gunn. The dumb and confused royals and guards, the orchestra playing a faster a more ominous tune while the assassination takes place, the presents dramatically accusing the main character even though there is no other witness in the boiler room besides people already part of the conspiracy, the villain being spared without any logical reason...
reminded me of the throne room battle in whichever disney star wars sequel movie it was. Hilariously bad choreography.
She didn't dare to shoot the villain because the villain is her stepped dad. She took part in the assassination because she wanted revenge against the kings who killed her family and destroyed her planet, got taken away with some other kids left and trained to become heartless imperial soldier.
The overacting of the actor with the black beard brought me to tears..."MURDER!" 😄
It is one of the dumbest scenes because the scargiver is supposed to be a hero but she straight up kills a little girl for nothing… when I first seen this scene I thought she was gonna turn the gun on everyone else and try to save the girl but no, she just smokes that little princess and runs away like away like a coward…. Garbage 😢
Loved your chat about diagetic soundtrack. Another recent one I can think of is the Atriedes arrival on Arrakas in Dune part 1..... And that's probably what Zach was immitating.
Another GOOD example of the diegetic sound is in the Star Trek TNG episode "The Inner Light." Picard experiences an entire lifetime on a dying world, where he learns to play a flute. At the end of the episode he's alone in his quarters with the only thing left from that world, that flute, and he starts to play that sad melody he learned, then you see the ship fly away from the exterior while that song keeps playing. Hits you right in the feels.
It's one of my favorite TNG episodes. Perfect example.
I get chills thinking about it and I haven't seen it in years.
Rains of Castermere?
@@solarmaru49 That's a good one too, that's actually probably Zack Snyder was imitating.
And then you realize that Picard's arms are not his own. Watch it again closely.
Pippin's song while Faramir's warriors are getting wiped out is the best use of diegetic music ever.
(SPOILER) My favorite so far has been in the two recent God of War games, where the themes of the characters whose deaths have been most devastating, Fae and Brok, are uniquely diegetic.
Hands down! I get teary eyed just from the thought of it
To be honest I can’t wait for part 3. Mainly because these reviews are hysterical. I’m still cracking up.
I stopped watching part 1 as soon as I saw the Tavern scene, at the start of the movie... Unlimited power sources+lazers & medieval taverns + Scottish dances on another planet... Not to mention the plowing done by a spaceOx while spaceships are flying above.... The BS was just too much already😂
Another thing, that I find absolutely hilarious was: how completely useless the (not)-Magnificent Seven are. We spend the entire first movie, going from planet to planet, gathering these jabronies and are let to believe they have some special skills, which will come to play during the climactic battle, right? WRONG! For example: the space Tarzan dude. We spend a long sequence in part 1, where he tames that Hippogriff. So, you assume that he will gather some of these creatures and lead them into battle against the Imperium forces. Instead he just fights like a normal dude. Or the Asian chick, with the (not)-lighsabers, you would think she will go full-on Rurouni Kenshin swordmaster style, instead she has 1 fight scene against 4 enemy soldiers, which she barely defeats and then dies from her injuries. And best of all: Djimon Hounsou's general Titus, who is supposed to be the greatest general in the galaxy. You think: ''Oh man, he's gonna use some cool tactics and what not." His strategy is: "Use the sacks of flour as cover, because the Empire needs the grain." And Plan B: ''Do a frontal assault against an enemy with superior numbers & firepower." Alexander the Great, Hannibal Barca, Sun Tzu, Napoleon Bonaparte & Marshal Rommel have nothing on this ''strategic genius".
Omg, when u state it out loud, it looks like it was written by a 9 yr old 😂😂
Characters in a fictional movie/novel can only be as smart as the writer portraying them, so now we are aware of the level of intellect we are dealing with in Zach Snyder.
@@Musashi-if3tl This is the real failing of Snyder and much of the rest of recent Hollywood; its defenders claim that it's unfair to break stuff down piece by piece because that's just 'nitpicking' or whatever, but the truth is that virtually ALL of this recent slop completely falls apart if you actually stop to think. That's why jump cuts, shaky cam, over the top lens flare and explosions (and thanks to the MCU, quippy one liners and jokes every other line) are so abused. If the audience is just laughing and clapping like seals, they won't question that the scene just preceding was complete garbage. ...and yet somehow Snyder's attempts with Rebel Moon are even worse.
Agree completely. This movie has absolutely no payoff for any good set up. That includes Anthony Hopkin's character.
Maybe they’re saving all the awesomeness of the (Not) Magnificent Seven will come thru in parts 3-6… because oh yes, there’s grumbling that this is to be a 6 parter! 🤮
A salute to the titanic orchestra for going down in the most classy and badass way possible.
a quote from a science fiction novel I read, can't remember the title: a LA surfer is surfing when an asteroid creates a massive tidal wave which hits the west coast. He surfs the wave right into a skyscraper 'when death is inevitable, all there is left is style... Style'
@@richardhockey8442Lucifer's Hammer by Larry Niven and Jerry Pournelle
My biggest gripe with this scene is how shaky she is when pointing the weapon
That has got to be most aggressive "Go Away Now" I've ever heard... Drinker must be really pissed with this one.
I find it so funny that the best orchestra a literal king could assemble was 4 string players sat in a dingy corner with bags on their heads.
Not to mention, when commissioning the most advanced and lethal ship in your arsenal you do it in the engine room with a small group of politicians?? Whatever you do, don't have it on the flight deck with admirals, the ship's crew, a military orchestra and static displays of fighters, drop ships, etc. It was beyond dumb, but by that point I was already numb and fast forwarding through most of the movie.
Seems too few musicians for an orchestra, also lacking a conductor; more a quartet. Guess the villain was dealing with space inflation and the rising cost of coal or something. 😂
You mean 3 musicians and a guy who obviously lied to get the job because you can see he's playing that instrument with the same level of skill that Snyder used to make this movie.
I love how Cora’s second or third round after freeing herself fired 30 degrees downward from the direction her hand gun is actually pointed. Slow motion really helped to hide it too.
The best example of diagetic sound is The Truman Show. A gentle scene plays as we watch Truman do… something. I don’t remember what. Christof looks on fondly at Truman, who he’s watched over from nearly birth. Soft piano plays over the top. The camera pans over to the side and we see the pianist sitting there playing. It goes very suddenly from stirring non-diagetic background music to diagetic and somehow cynical because of it. It’s a great moment showing how artificial every part of Truman’s life is.
usually, vids like these are at least 30 min long, but the Drinker managed in 10. Well done good Sir. I Feel like I've gained time of my life instead of losing it.
I’d like to hear The Drinker talk about the movie “Wish”
This "wish" movie you talk about never existed, I don't know what you talk about
@@miguelsuaza4413😂
@@miguelsuaza4413 Damn😂
When you order a movie from Wish.
What's there to talk about? It's a painfully mediocre film
Bellisarius, one of the greatest and most loyal generals in the history of Rome. By far the greatest eastern Roman general. Great use of history Zach 😂
Don't be hard on him, for Snyder "Bellisarius" is just a name.
Bellisarius was a genuinely good and great man. His memory deserves better than to be dragged into this sort of shit.
@@notshapedforsportivetricks2912seriously. He was so badass man he and Stilicho and Aurelian are among my favorites of post pagan/end of the united Roman Empire.
Almost as embarrassing as forgetting that the Dune series also uses a "bullshit" feudal monarchy for its sci-fi setting.
@@mattandrews2594 yeah but dune has the houses and a complex power sharing system, the details of which are all laid out and consistent.. not to mention its an emperor not a king and not s 1 to 1 replica of the feudal system in space.. in that setting it actually makes sense
Spaceballs did it best when they revealed the guy actually playing the timpani.
What a mess it was. I hope they paid those actors VERY well because that is a big stain on their CVs