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What Happened To Our Villains?

The Critical Drinker
2021 ж. 17 Қаң.
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Every hero needs a good villain. Movie villains used to be awesome, but now they kind of suck. Join me as I explain why.

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    @TheCriticalDrinker@TheCriticalDrinker3 жыл бұрын

    • Thanos.... He was a great Villian

      @bhuvaneshs.k638@bhuvaneshs.k6383 жыл бұрын

    • I love this channel, The Critical Drinker is my favorite KZhead channel. I agree something has happened to almost every major villain except for Thanos in Hollywood now at days. A good movie villain was Mr. Glass in the first Unbreakable movie. Another good villain was Koba in the Plant of the Apes series and Megatron in Transformers. Have you notice almost of all the Villans now at days are all White Men while all of the Heros are diversity something to think about. Anyways please keep up the good work Drinker. P.S. I love the part where you say Don't Know.

      @lukestock6115@lukestock61153 жыл бұрын

    • Just so you know Hela was always more powerful than Thor in classic comics. No idea about the new ones, I don't read them. He won because Odin stepped in or someother way. He didn't over power her.

      @readhistory2023@readhistory20233 жыл бұрын

    • Dude, have you seen the trailer for The Ridiculousness that is the new movie coming out called shadow in the cloud? You should do a review just on it

      @i.am.not.herbert@i.am.not.herbert3 жыл бұрын

    • @@lukestock6115 ya Thanos got kicked heroes got kicked, honestly was good to see. it was similar to the dark knight.

      @dhilipans5412@dhilipans54123 жыл бұрын

  • The Villains are still around. They just write, produce and direct now.

    @MT-ic7ub@MT-ic7ub3 жыл бұрын

    • *Mister Tracy* Good one!

      @richardshort3914@richardshort39143 жыл бұрын

    • Nah even villians have principles and codes. What you are referring to are cowards and chicken shit weasels

      @sporkybutterz@sporkybutterz3 жыл бұрын

    • @@sporkybutterz Vision and ambition, more importantly.

      @connielingus8385@connielingus83853 жыл бұрын

    • Yeah for PUREFLIX am I right.

      @aaronroberts5272@aaronroberts52723 жыл бұрын

    • TRUTH!!

      @dougjames4972@dougjames49723 жыл бұрын

  • There's a reason People cheered when Thanos punches the shit out of Captain Marvel

    @bat32391@bat323913 жыл бұрын

    • Simply my favorite moment from Endgame.

      @MasterChakra7@MasterChakra73 жыл бұрын

    • Facts

      @AndreNitroX@AndreNitroX3 жыл бұрын

    • @Brimstone Writers had to adhere to the character "traits" she had been given in her stand alone before they could just get rid of her for the rest of the movie to avoid most of the reasons mentioned by the drinker.

      @sabastyian@sabastyian3 жыл бұрын

    • Yeah but then they decided to show her over power him before he had to use the power stone to overcome her. It's the same third party interventionism the drinker just highlighted. Was nice though, even for a moment.

      @tdegrddeehjgd@tdegrddeehjgd3 жыл бұрын

    • Seriously, the whole theater groaned when she kamikazed the gunner ship and I couldn't stop laughing

      @tackyoptic@tackyoptic3 жыл бұрын

  • Kylo is a better antihero than a villain I suspect. Still, I will note: a villain being dangerously unstable rather than cool and collected can definitely work as well (see Homelander), but it has to ensure that the instability is genuinely dangerous to others.

    @briang.2218@briang.2218 Жыл бұрын

    • Kylo really should have left on that mask. When he took it off the first time, the people in the theater laughed at his ugly mug.

      @thunkjunk@thunkjunk Жыл бұрын

    • kylo killed han, which in itself would be villanious enough, but han being his father makes it even worse, and doing it when han was simply talking to him even worse still. kylo is a villain, is just that the trilogy tries to make you forget about these things for some reason

      @arthaiser@arthaiser Жыл бұрын

    • Unfortnately Disney couldn't decide if he is an anti-hero or villain.

      @AngryGrape1337@AngryGrape1337 Жыл бұрын

    • Yeah but Homelander is not introduced as the villain but as the main superhero. he slowly becomes the villain whichg was hundred times more interesting than this Kylo Ren bs,

      @dieterdietert7232@dieterdietert7232 Жыл бұрын

    • @@dieterdietert7232 Mm I don't recall Homelander slowly becoming the villain. He's more a villain-in-hiding, and even then it's only for the very first episode. Everything from there on out just features him as the dangerously unstable barely-held-together psychopath.

      @briang.2218@briang.2218 Жыл бұрын

  • The saddest thing is that Kylo - even though he's an inadequate villain - actually is a more interesting character than all the protagonists...

    @McToast1337@McToast13373 жыл бұрын

    • True. I didn't feel like rooting for any of them. I really wanted to from the start, but it just didn't happen.

      @SylentEcho@SylentEcho3 жыл бұрын

    • Because his character actually had to overcome the single most terrifying villain ever, the modern screenwriter.

      @davidkennedy3050@davidkennedy30503 жыл бұрын

    • Kylo is just complex 30-year emo teen who has no motivation, logic, goal, character. He changes from good to bad and back, from ugly to sexy, from powerful to weak, from treating to funny constantly. He had some goal "destroy everything and built somthing new", but he didn't explain what new, why it's so important to even kill everyone, and he completely forgets about it after. He could be interesting with better writers.

      @user-xx6vy9ri8p@user-xx6vy9ri8p3 жыл бұрын

    • @@user-xx6vy9ri8p This is a good explanation. Once taking the whole saga into consideration it isn't hard to see why Vader served the Emperor. At that point he had so completely destroyed his old life that service to Palpatine was the only thing left for him to live for. This eventually changed when he learned about Luke and he began longing for that family he had lost. Meanwhile, has it ever been explicitly stated why Kylo/Ben went running into Snoke's arms? What was his motivation for joining the First Order? One thing that TLJ actually did right was the implication that Kylo just wanted to do his own thing. Ben being a wild card, allied to no movement, a Grey Jedi of sorts, would've been more interesting than Vader 2.0.

      @enrique6335@enrique63353 жыл бұрын

    • Kylo feels more like the protagonist to me, He is young, Has emotional baggage, He is fighting aganist the practically invinciable protagonist and just in general seems like a perfect character for development.

      @HellishSpoon@HellishSpoon3 жыл бұрын

  • Never allowing a woman to lose implies that she is NOT equal. Thanks for the likes, folks.

    @therevelistmovement4683@therevelistmovement46833 жыл бұрын

    • Except when the woman is genuinely stronger than the man, like in Ragnarok as Drinker mentioned, and a third party is necessary to win.

      @thefilmwatcher1302@thefilmwatcher13023 жыл бұрын

    • I'm a huge feminist, and I completely agree with this. Making women seem perfect invalidates real, flawed women

      @carebear2025b@carebear2025b3 жыл бұрын

    • You do understand that equal doesn't mean that every person is a carbon copy of each other, also writing NOT in caps somehow makes your point make EVEN less sense

      @stopwritingthatreplyjohnat6638@stopwritingthatreplyjohnat66383 жыл бұрын

    • Duh, real men don't beat women because it's beneath them

      @alkebulanawah4242@alkebulanawah42423 жыл бұрын

    • @@stopwritingthatreplyjohnat6638 Read The Eternal's response.

      @therevelistmovement4683@therevelistmovement46833 жыл бұрын

  • I think Davy Jones is also a great example of a visually intimidating villain.

    @lukeward5314@lukeward5314 Жыл бұрын

    • Even the pirates films pulled this shit. There is a misogynistic scene where a boat doesn't allow women on board because they are bad luck. She tricks them and they all get slaughtered by the kraken. Elizabeth never actually has to fight against Davy Jones, probably because the writers didn't want the existential nightmare of pitting the perfect empowered woman against an eldritch immortal sailor grim reaper where they need to somehow come up with a way to make her come out on top against an opponent who can't lose outside of one specific flaw. The only reason Elizabeth gets a pass is that she's only a part of the story and all the important characters have their parts of the story revealed with equal representation. She's a perfect empowered woman, but Will Turner is a smart, fearless, and strong man. Sparrow is portrayed as the fool, but also has consistent moments of mindblowing intelligence against his enemies where the character really feels like he's just acting dumb to take advantage of his enemies having low expectations and thus preventing them from investing as much as they really should have against him. What elevates the Pirate's films is that the writing is really, really good.

      @setcheck67@setcheck67 Жыл бұрын

    • @@terriblet7885 Yeah they had a token moment for a split second where Davy had to explain why he's allowed to hit a woman for 10 of the 20 seconds they fought, "You'll not see any mercy from me!". However I'll also mention that... Elizabeth did not become the pirate queen in At World's End. She stayed on land waiting for will Turner when he could next come to shore to meet their son Henry who was in the next movie Fountain of Youth.

      @setcheck67@setcheck67 Жыл бұрын

    • @@setcheck67 Another thing that elevates Pirates is the music. So good.

      @derekblain3603@derekblain3603 Жыл бұрын

    • ​@@setcheck67 nah bro, hating on Elizabeth is just hating on badass female characters. She's both feminine and strong, a perfect balance

      @frocwin@frocwin Жыл бұрын

    • Possibly the least frightening Monkee though..

      @peterrenn6341@peterrenn6341 Жыл бұрын

  • In the first Matrix, we see Trinity being a badass, but eventually being outdone by the agents, and only just escaping. It gave me respect for her as a character, and also a higher sense of tension and fear of the agents. This isn’t rocket science y’all.

    @ceasefire9000@ceasefire9000 Жыл бұрын

    • Ugh, Trinity’s whole attitude, look and aura are so cool and such a vibe.

      @jamescarr1265@jamescarr12655 ай бұрын

    • She's even killed at the end of Matrix reloaded, then Neo does bring her back to life but still it makes it more realistic that an Agent would ofc overpower her. Only Neo can really defeat them easily, especially in a gunfight. Morpheus barely defeated one until Neo saved him.

      @Ishaan_A@Ishaan_A28 күн бұрын

  • There's no such thing as bad guys anymore, they are just misunderstood, and we get movies centered on them to help us sympathize with them and make them appear as good people.

    @ephgm@ephgm Жыл бұрын

    • @Dan Nguyen I was being sarcastic. I agreed with the video, bad guys aren't just bad for being bad. However, at least some bad guys would do bad things with the feeling that they are justified in doing so for one reason or another. A bad guy can be up to a point of view. I miss when a bad guy on a show was a bad guy just to be a bad guy, but I also do like occasionally showing the reasons for why they do things the way they do. However I think they do it to frequently these days, and they are desensitizing people towards it.

      @ephgm@ephgm Жыл бұрын

    • that's why I liked Jack Horner.

      @OxStong@OxStong10 ай бұрын

    • You are absolutely right. Homelander never did anything wrong, I don't know why some people are saying he is bad.

      @arimachezhian8631@arimachezhian86318 ай бұрын

    • ​@ephgm I still think bad for the pure reason of being bad is not great writing. Can't remember the last good villain who is purely evil

      @sirhellsing@sirhellsing5 ай бұрын

    • ​@@sirhellsing Jack Horner

      @friendlyneighborhoodkelbea7258@friendlyneighborhoodkelbea72584 ай бұрын

  • We live in a world in which a fan made movie with no budget is way more satisfying than billion dollar Hollywood movies

    @samialivand1511@samialivand15113 жыл бұрын

    • What fan movie I NEED to see it

      @JohnSmith-kg2rt@JohnSmith-kg2rt3 жыл бұрын

    • Helreach and the Death of Hope were both written and animated by fans. Excellently done. Edit: autocorrect did me wrong again.

      @garysuarez9614@garysuarez96142 жыл бұрын

    • Not exactly movies but watch anything crypt tv has made they may be short but they are amazing horrors, if you like horror movies

      @markoklisuric1752@markoklisuric17522 жыл бұрын

    • Who killed captain alex is a cinematic masterpiece.

      @misanthropicservitorofmars2116@misanthropicservitorofmars21162 жыл бұрын

    • @@garysuarez9614 helsreach was based on a book, the fan series actually skipped and downscaled alot of what happend. Death of hope only had one ep and there wasnt much of a story aside from chaos doing chaos things.

      @renzmanzano4010@renzmanzano40102 жыл бұрын

  • "If your antagonist starts out weaker than the hero, then what the fuck is there left to strive against?" - Possibly the most succinctly perfect and true statement about the problem I've ever heard. There are so many aspects to strength, and these days villains seem to have incredible weaknesses written into them.

    @cyberwaste@cyberwaste3 жыл бұрын

    • This has potential when the antagonist grows along with the protagonist, they have a sort of an arms race, both getting more powerful, sparing periodically, sometimes one wins, sometimes the other, but both are aware that if they relent and not grow, their nemesis will win, so they improve. This is how it's done right.

      @Araneus21@Araneus213 жыл бұрын

    • @@Araneus21 Or you could actually make the antagonist the person who grows stronger learns from his mistakes and eventually overcomes the hero... It would probably be kinda pessimistic and depressing, but I would like to see something like that (if done right of course).

      @pan_kruk339@pan_kruk3393 жыл бұрын

    • One of my favorite villains is a serial killer with mystic powers, in his first encounter with our heroes he gets his ass kicked, but gaining knowledge from this he instead of trying to use what he thought was his overwhelming power to instead outwit and out think the heroes in the end of the story however the heroes are able to foil his plan and the difference in strength in a direct fight hasn’t changed so we get the satisfaction of a stomp while the tension of a real struggle against a formidable foe

      @jeremygeller9145@jeremygeller91453 жыл бұрын

    • @@pan_kruk339 Kylo Ren did grow and eventually overcame Rey in their final fight. He was far more physical and dominant than Rey and had her on the ropes until leia interfered. Then Rey went with the dog move to strike him while he was in a moment of weakness and conflict, making her feel like the real villain

      @cordlxze9559@cordlxze95593 жыл бұрын

    • @Neil Brooks Actually it is possible to write an antagonist that's weaker than the hero, you then have to make them strive to be stronger than the hero. Or in the case of a villain like Lex who uses his mind to outwit and outmatch Superman. But we don't get that since a lot of these writers are hacks.

      @DemonicRemption@DemonicRemption3 жыл бұрын

  • "A hero is only as strong as the villain they defeat." Well said.

    @zildog@zildog Жыл бұрын

  • 1980s villain; (Vader kills someone's and then says) Apology accepted 2020's villain; if you dont do what I say Imma tell my mommy

    @SoCoolScience@SoCoolScience Жыл бұрын

    • 1970s*

      @magtinfal7908@magtinfal7908 Жыл бұрын

    • It would be at least funny if his mommy shows up the next scene and kick the heroes ass for a while.

      @hermes667@hermes667 Жыл бұрын

    • @@magtinfal7908 That quote was said in 1980

      @Joetino@Joetino Жыл бұрын

    • @Joetino Official Yeah but the villain was made in the 70s

      @magtinfal7908@magtinfal7908 Жыл бұрын

    • @@hermes667 and then there's steppenwolf's "mommy is calling"

      @oniplus4545@oniplus45453 ай бұрын

  • Considering how ridiculously powerful Rey is, the Disney trilogy should've made *her* the villain. It could've been a Negative Change Arc, as we'd see her fall to the Dark Side and Kylo Ren would evolve into the hero the story needed. *That* would've been *way* more interesting that what we actually got.

    @PKMN37@PKMN373 жыл бұрын

    • Negative. That would imply a man is good / a hero.

      @Nurgles_Rot_@Nurgles_Rot_2 жыл бұрын

    • Seemed like that was the direction they were going until Ryan gay Johnson

      @jms0313@jms03132 жыл бұрын

    • Yeah, agreed. Scarlett Witch in Wandavision could have gone the same way. Starts off a bad guy ( in AOU) then becomes good, then after Vision dies, completely loses it and becomes one of the biggest, most powerful bad guys in the MCU. But no, that would have been too much creative thinking.

      @25019719@250197192 жыл бұрын

    • Hmm... yup, I'd watch that.

      @shannonbutler-williams7261@shannonbutler-williams72612 жыл бұрын

    • Funnily enough, despite Disney's efforts trying to make Rey into a bullshit powerful Mary-Sue, many competently written, non Mary-Sue Star Wars characters easily overpower her. Rey ain't got shit on Darth Nihilus, EU Luke, or even Anakin.

      @Stryker98@Stryker982 жыл бұрын

  • "What Happened To Our Villains?" They went into politics and journalism.

    @LjMeleed@LjMeleed3 жыл бұрын

    • Top comment!

      @mkultra-meltdown6848@mkultra-meltdown68483 жыл бұрын

    • With their gender studies degree

      @blizzardgaming7070@blizzardgaming70703 жыл бұрын

    • Too bad they had to abandon any kind of charisma and class behind them to make that move...

      @51dodoc@51dodoc3 жыл бұрын

    • Yes, because the original star wars had no politics what so ever.

      @Talentlesssss@Talentlesssss3 жыл бұрын

    • @@Talentlesssss I think you missed the joke mate.

      @51dodoc@51dodoc3 жыл бұрын

  • This is one reason I LOVED Puss N Boots. Jack Horner has all the elements of a villain that ends up being more sympathetic. Instead, as the film's Jiminy Cricket described it, "You're an irredeemable MONSTER!" Death has all the elements of a scary villain, but he's more like a ruthless force of nature.

    @365ral@365ral Жыл бұрын

    • That film was brilliant in a million ways.

      @marenkendall7413@marenkendall7413 Жыл бұрын

    • not really, since his entire backstory is him being jealous of other fairy tale creatures being more popular than him even though he has nice parents who have a prosperous company that they pass down to him

      @mrvespuccia.k.ameganite1747@mrvespuccia.k.ameganite174710 ай бұрын

    • I think you misunderstood what the op was talking about

      @LegendXD00@LegendXD009 ай бұрын

    • @@marenkendall7413hell yeah it was!

      @silashurd3597@silashurd35978 ай бұрын

    • Puss in Boots was such an amazing movie, man. So damn good.

      @machomandalf2893@machomandalf28934 ай бұрын

  • The last really good villian I can recall was Anton Chigurh, in "No Country For Old Men". He never raised his voice or got angry the whole movie, and was absolutely terrifying!!!!

    @_ColdAssHonkey_@_ColdAssHonkey_10 ай бұрын

    • He did tho. When he's with Carla, he says "Call it" the second time just a little louder. It's the loudest he gets in the movie and even that is still quiet. Also I reccomend reading some Cormac Mccarthy if you like good villains, since he wrote No Country For Old Men.

      @whatno3145@whatno314525 күн бұрын

    • Hans Landa was after Anton, though. Can't have a best movie villains list without him.

      @Wirehead18@Wirehead1822 күн бұрын

  • You either die a villain or you live long enough to see your character get woke and get broke.

    @yourstruly4817@yourstruly48173 жыл бұрын

    • @Cat Egorical no one said you couldn't 😉

      @fairpoints7233@fairpoints72333 жыл бұрын

    • 🤣🤣🤣

      @psykloneja@psykloneja3 жыл бұрын

    • Off the cliff I go. They won't take my work from me!

      @TheKing-qz9wd@TheKing-qz9wd3 жыл бұрын

    • @Cat Egorical The problem isnt that Captain Marvel wasnt fairly accurate comics wise. In the comics Captain Marvel IS among the most powerful 'mortal' characters. The problem is that in the comics, she's mentally broken. Rogue stole her powers and mind, and recovering from that was a HUGE slog for her. it took her YEARS, and even then she wasnt really 'all right'. She struggled, and won through. In the movie, she STARTS a beast, but with a small memory hole. And doesnt have to do much to overcome it. The movie really wasnt bad, it was just....... meh. Edit: mortal, not moral. Thats a pretty bad typo.

      @merlyworm@merlyworm3 жыл бұрын

    • What does anyones personal preferrence have to do with getting woke!

      @bUll3t4MyVAlentineee@bUll3t4MyVAlentineee3 жыл бұрын

  • “The better the villain, the better the movie” -Hitchcock

    @jones8910@jones89103 жыл бұрын

    • I am your 69th like I’m just marking this milestone

      @chadpowell1832@chadpowell18323 жыл бұрын

    • Saboteurs - best villain speech ever

      @TheProphetJoshua@TheProphetJoshua3 жыл бұрын

    • The villain should drive the story. That's what made Infinity War so good.

      @25019719@250197193 жыл бұрын

    • What's the gist of the film Unbreakable - heros are defined by the villains they fight who are usually their dark reflection. How can you take a hero seriously when their villains are weak, unstable, inept dishmops.

      @richardhockey8442@richardhockey84423 жыл бұрын

    • If you are looking for good villains in comic book popcorn fare you are looking in the wrong place.

      @designanddirection@designanddirection3 жыл бұрын

  • With villains like Darth Vader, Hannibal Lector and the T1000, we were spoiled for amazing villains in our younger years. I'd almost forgotten how powerful a good strong competent villain could be. But they should be as truly iconic as the hero that has to face off against them. The T1000 was one of my all time top villains, because if you arent all in on the fight, you will absolutely lose and fast.

    @quipsilvervr@quipsilvervr Жыл бұрын

    • T 1000 always scared me as a child. Theres something off about him. Like he doesn't feel like a terminator rather something far more sinister .

      @JunayedMahin@JunayedMahin9 ай бұрын

  • “Easily brushed aside when the script decides it’s time for them to lose” is the best articulated point about how disingenuous modern film villains have become. Villains are formidable, there is a reason why Darth Vader walks slow and it’s because he moves for no one.

    @infjt6965@infjt6965 Жыл бұрын

  • As I woman, I hate getting pandered to. As if I'm not as smart as male movie watchers, like I need to have stories fed to me like I was a child.

    @mihmo2663@mihmo26633 жыл бұрын

    • You don't hate being lied to, you hate the fact that it's true. Women are children because as soon as you get that first bit of male attention at thirteen you stop growing as people and become solipsistic narcissists. You have one function and it doesn't require being conscious for it to happen.

      @alexdenton9176@alexdenton91763 жыл бұрын

    • More Women should be like you

      @ernestcolemantheking@ernestcolemantheking3 жыл бұрын

    • @@alexdenton9176 Stop being the stereotype, please.

      @Ett.Gammalt.Bergtroll@Ett.Gammalt.Bergtroll3 жыл бұрын

    • Well then, my lady, do I have a series for you! It's called "The Expanse," it's currently on Amazon Prime, and they don't talk down or cater to anyone whatsoever. Everyone in that entire damn show, from the most scrupulous to the most evil has a rich and checkered history, along with awesome character development. And the evil guys don't skimp on the evil, either! I highly recommend you watch that show sometime, that is if you like (smart) sci-fi!

      @007Thanos007@007Thanos0073 жыл бұрын

    • @@alexdenton9176 bud I'm sorry but the redpill isn't real and being a douchebag isn't going to get your pp touched.

      @glynch1263@glynch12633 жыл бұрын

  • I'll never forget seeing endgame, and laughing my ass off when the audience cheered at Thanos punching Captain Marvel. That really said it all for me.

    @ryanlucas3907@ryanlucas39072 жыл бұрын

    • I was cheering more for Wanda kicking Thanos ass

      @biguy617@biguy6172 жыл бұрын

    • For a split second I thought she was gonna take the Gauntlet from him I stood ready to nope tf out

      @calebnorris6960@calebnorris69602 жыл бұрын

    • @@calebnorris6960 imagine if that happened that would just be plainly a "look we support females now buy our product" move

      @darthmaul8278@darthmaul82782 жыл бұрын

    • @@biguy617 yes! It felt like Wanda EARNED that after all she had been through. Captain Marvel, not so much. I wanted Wanda to be the one to stomp Thanos into the ground! I love that he actually had a glimmer of fear when he faced her.

      @FranciscanGypsy@FranciscanGypsy2 жыл бұрын

    • @@calebnorris6960 I want to see LokiGator bite Thanos' hand off

      @cymond@cymond2 жыл бұрын

  • You missed something important about Darth Vader. When you mentioned his first appearance, we get set up for a guy that’s not f-ing around. I saw it in the theater when I was in elementary school. Darth Vader was the ultimate. It was so effective I didn’t realize until 2022 that he only had eight minutes of screen time in New Hope. Yep, eight minutes. And just a handful of lines, that’s it. In a film class last year we had to study New Hope and analyze every scene. Studying each scene I realized I wasn’t really seeing Darth much at all. It’s crazy that Lucas did all that character development with eight minutes.

    @erizzle67@erizzle679 ай бұрын

  • So basically, Hollywood's attempts to avoid offending certain people end up offending certain other people.

    @bobogus7559@bobogus7559 Жыл бұрын

    • Ironic...

      @Mr.Tw1sty@Mr.Tw1sty10 ай бұрын

    • we are not offended... we are bored

      @villardileonardo2411@villardileonardo24116 ай бұрын

    • No, it ends up offending all of them

      @Vishaal1797@Vishaal17975 ай бұрын

  • Darth Vader : "Sister, so you have a twin sister. Your feelings have now betrayed her too. Obi-wan was wise to hide her from me. Now his failure is complete. If you will not turn to the Dark side then perhaps she will." Luke : *let's his rage take over* - This is why Vader is the most legendary bad@ss villain in cinematic history, even in defeat he wins.

    @ChengTeoh@ChengTeoh3 жыл бұрын

    • *Tosses lightsaber* "I'll never turn to the dark side. You've failed, your highness. I am a Jedi, like my father before me." To Drinker's point, Darth Vader being an iconic villain elevated Luke's status as a hero.

      @wesleysmallwood413@wesleysmallwood4133 жыл бұрын

    • @@wesleysmallwood413 as a legend. Luke Skywalker and Darth Vader are as well known as historic figures. Forever will old star wars be talked about and remembered.

      @Skellotronix@Skellotronix3 жыл бұрын

    • Well the 8K versions will have new gender neutral dialogue. “Sibling? So, you have a twin sibling? If you will not turn to the dark side, than perhaps that person will.” Also, look forward to a future version of Empire with “No, I am your parent.”

      @marcpjoyner@marcpjoyner3 жыл бұрын

    • Have to disagree with the drinker.. Vader does get back-chatted to by Boba Fett... and Vader lets him live, ok it serves a purpose - it shows just how dangerous Fett is to the heroes, but it also shows Vader is prepared to bite the bullet, be pragmatic, and recognize his men just aren't up to the job - he needs outsourced help that isn't fucked about upsetting senior ranks like members of a military outfit are. You need "A" grade bastards, who can think out of the box and focus on the job in hand.

      @efnissien@efnissien3 жыл бұрын

    • I remember watching a behind the scenes clip where Lucas struggled for a while with what Vader could possibly say to unleash Lukes suppressed rage. Lucas might have a reputation for lackluster dialogue, but he struck gold there.

      @BlazenRocker93@BlazenRocker933 жыл бұрын

  • The funny part is, had Kylo Ren *won,* that could have actually made things work more. Imagine a villain that starts inept but becomes a major force towards the end. Ya know, if the hero is static, make the villain dynamic.

    @maddoxlacy9072@maddoxlacy90722 жыл бұрын

    • underrated comment

      @orihoola@orihoola2 жыл бұрын

    • I really thought during the second movie, they'd completly overhaul the whole franchise "killing the past" and exploring a new direction, where Kylo ends up convincing Rey to team up and build something new. A move where they leave the established motion of "good versus evil" behind, completing a saga in which balance might not have to be achieved by the constant war inbetween extremes but maybe something new... and then episode 9 happened and went so far back to fking basics they had to recycle the villain... Though contrary to this video, he overpowered Rey for like a minute, inbefore her character grew to the point she learns how to hold two one-handed weapons at a time.

      @Shuizid@Shuizid2 жыл бұрын

    • 😭 this would have made sense, given Kylo’s redemption arc. But no.

      @Xplora213@Xplora2132 жыл бұрын

    • If the hero is static, make the villain dynamic. Beautifully put.

      @marvinthomas9897@marvinthomas98972 жыл бұрын

    • I guess. I mean it worked well enough in Milton's _Paradise Lost._

      @stalhandske9649@stalhandske96492 жыл бұрын

  • The fact that so many of these terrible villains are portrayed by actors who have done excellent work playing roles in other projects proves the writing is definitely what matters most!

    @brysimm404@brysimm4048 ай бұрын

  • Lest we forget behind the mask buried in there is Anakin Skywalker which intensifies the intrigue for Vader tenfold

    @LIONHEARTE944@LIONHEARTE944 Жыл бұрын

    • Until we met him in the prequels lol

      @stevencompton1486@stevencompton1486 Жыл бұрын

    • We didn't know nor care in the original trilogy. He's Luke's father is the extent we figure out the history, and that's enough to make it work. The prequels took away from that instead of adding to it.

      @LemuriaGames@LemuriaGames Жыл бұрын

    • @@LemuriaGames Granted, the prequels were expanded on in some ways and retconned a bit in others, and eventually, Anakin Skywalker does become one of the most fascinating characters in Star Wars lore, but you're absolutely correct. For the purposes of what Darth Vader is, Anakin's story is not necessary beyond knowing he's Luke's father. He's so intimidating that it's easy to forget that he's very rarely the commanding officer at any point during the original trilogy. When he's not doing Sidious' bidding, he's on Tarkin's grounds, independent from the chain of command. But there's never any question that he's the most powerful person in the room. That's Vader's mystique, in my opinion.

      @tripleoo0@tripleoo0 Жыл бұрын

    • @@stevencompton1486To be fair, young Vader was pretty good in Shattered Glass.

      @OwnerOfTheCosmos@OwnerOfTheCosmosАй бұрын

  • It's like they think the Joker is so iconic because he's funny. So they make funny villains hoping it will have the same effect. Completely missing the point...that the Joker is the one clown you wouldn't dare laugh at.

    @frankrostko5769@frankrostko57693 жыл бұрын

    • “...The one clown you don’t dare laugh at...” IDK if you got that somewhere or came up with it but nonetheless that has to be one of the coolest lines I have heard in a fat minute

      @smorgasbord9940@smorgasbord99403 жыл бұрын

    • How about another joke, Murray?

      @nont18411@nont184113 жыл бұрын

    • This is spot on. The thing that makes Joker a good villain isn't that he makes jokes and is funny, its the fact that he is a ruthless psychopath that sees all of the terrible things be does as nothing more than jokes to be laughed at.

      @austinnowak5414@austinnowak54143 жыл бұрын

    • Except laugh when he wants you to laugh. Otherwise.... kzhead.info/sun/rdKaiLltpYN4dYE/bejne.html

      @InfernosReaper@InfernosReaper3 жыл бұрын

    • unless he wanted you to

      @randomantics3934@randomantics39343 жыл бұрын

  • Ripley is a great example of a woman who isn't a goddess, she's just a normal person who overcomes impossible odds because of her will and wit

    @killerdolphin48@killerdolphin483 жыл бұрын

    • Being smart can especially be a nice excuse to make someone go from being weak to being able to wreck far stronger monsters.

      @davecullins1606@davecullins16063 жыл бұрын

    • And not once did I ever think, No way a woman could do that! Concerning Ripley.

      @jackbits6397@jackbits63973 жыл бұрын

    • An essential part of alien was that the characters were basically truck drivers in space. They aren't meant to be soldiers or a threat to the xenomorphs. Ripley used her wit and knowledge of the ship to survive them and triumphed because her brain outlasted the alien's brawn. That is why we love Ripley.

      @chaoticgoodcreations947@chaoticgoodcreations9473 жыл бұрын

    • They don't make women like Ripley anymore

      @ekathe85@ekathe853 жыл бұрын

    • This is what really fcuks me off ! because there are many examples of strong women overcoming threats in the movies. BUT a bunch of naive idiots who never watch any movies more than a couple of years old think they know it all.

      @nopants4259@nopants42593 жыл бұрын

  • I'm using your videos as writing advice. Your way of explaining things has really helped me understand what traps to avoid, and how to provide a certain suspense that would validate the motivations of my heroes and villains. You might be a reviewer, but your complaints have a depth than modern journalism can't match. In short, thank you.

    @yesthatismyname@yesthatismyname Жыл бұрын

    • I’m doing the same, honestly.

      @mikoto7693@mikoto769311 ай бұрын

    • Drinker is also an author.

      @BennettsShed@BennettsShed4 ай бұрын

    • @@BennettsShed HOW DID I NOT NOTICE THAT 🤦‍♀️ thanks for pointing that out lol

      @yesthatismyname@yesthatismyname4 ай бұрын

  • Gul Dukat is one of the best and most complete villains to ever exist and was portrayed so well by Marc Alaimo. Gul Dukat, while evil and conflicted, thought he was the hero and saw himself as heroic. He was the perfect foil for Sisko.

    @Ricky_Baldy@Ricky_Baldy10 ай бұрын

  • I was on an elevator at a sci-fi convention. We're all on our way down to the late night parties, when the elevator stops, the doors glide open, and frickin Darth Vader steps on, turns to face the doors, and never speaks a word. The whole elevator went silent. It was one of the most surreal experiences of my life. Everybody *knew* that it was just a nerd in a costume, but it didn't matter. His presence was simply that *imposing*.

    @cymond@cymond2 жыл бұрын

    • Must’ve been an impressive suit

      @Kkimishim@Kkimishim2 жыл бұрын

    • @@Kkimishim never underestimate the ability of a passionate nerd

      @mannamoth918@mannamoth9182 жыл бұрын

    • That's hilarious. And testament to great production design.

      @markeastwood74@markeastwood742 жыл бұрын

    • I met the real Darth Vader (Dave Prowse), and had no idea it was him. I was standing at the back of the room near the restrooms waiting on someone else on the floor, and this guy strikes up a conversation with me. We chatted idly for 10 minutes and eventually he bid good day and moved on. A moment later my friend rushes up to me from the floor and was like "Dude!" I had no idea. This was in the early 80s.

      @clownshow5901@clownshow59012 жыл бұрын

    • @@clownshow5901 What did you talk about?

      @beyond-journeys-end@beyond-journeys-end2 жыл бұрын

  • The thing is that kylo being an immature, ineffective child was a really good starting point for the character. They just chose to never address it and grow from there. They decided to straight up just ignore it.

    @steelfoot98@steelfoot983 жыл бұрын

    • Every character in that trilogy had so much potential, and that's what upsets me the most about it.

      @WafflezDay@WafflezDay3 жыл бұрын

    • And to think he was whinny that Han and Leia were his parents, LITERALLY THE BEST PARENTS YOU COULD HAVE HAD IN THE STAR WARS UNIVERSE

      @blyat8832@blyat88323 жыл бұрын

    • Yah that's LITERALLY his defining character trait and they drill it pretty hard in the first movie. Ironically, being compared to Darth Vader here in this way is playing to what the original idea for his character was supposed to be. Course they fucked it up in the end but yeah... it's not like there wasn't a reason for it.

      @andrew3606@andrew36063 жыл бұрын

    • Kylo and Finn could have been amazing characters... Its fucking sad

      @jamie_d0g978@jamie_d0g9783 жыл бұрын

    • Instead of coming across as scary and unpredictable, Kylo Ren seems like a spoiled Goth kid with a glow stick. Adam Driver is plenty good enough to bring any depth to the role the makers had chosen to give him and I felt he was a great choice as an actor for the role. But the film-makers had a bizarre social agenda that was more important than everything else, even the profits. Thanks to perverse and misguided reasons known only to them, they chose to deliberately turn Skywalker saga into preposterously stupid films that will be hated by generation after generation of movie viewers. Compared to episodes 4 through 6 they are a slap in the face to the original vision of the wondrous Star Wars universe that George Lucas created. No one would be the least bit sad if every single copy of the Skywalker movies were put through a crusher and totally vanished from the earth.

      @robertmaybeth3434@robertmaybeth34343 жыл бұрын

  • Kylo becoming the hero would have been great. But still we would have expected more character development from Rey, cause she felt dragged by the plot more than anything else. Yet, yes, imagining a shakepearian tale of a doomed hero that killed jedis + his father (which is also an historic fan favorite) whom redeems himself to "save the galaxy" almost give me goosebumps. Plus what a material for future possible sequels : having a hero that's actually done too many bad stuff to be forgiven, and has to live haunted by what he's done.

    @florentdevier@florentdevier Жыл бұрын

    • This is what I want for Riddler in the The Batman trilogy. He's basically a Robin character, a poor orphan who is inspired by Batman, and he already gestured toward imagining he was Batman's partner. To see Paul Dano bring his Eddie Nash to redemption and truly team up with Batman, to join the side of good and finally begin to fight the right way, would be unbelievably powerful. Sadly this will definitely not be allowed to happen.

      @_scabs6669@_scabs6669 Жыл бұрын

    • They really could have made a tragic character out of him, a la Jasper in secret of NIMH. Trying to wound/kill the big bad after already being struck down but trying to assist Rey as his last dying redemptive act, while whispering, "I'm sorry... for everything" then passing away. Is it predictable, yes, but worlds better than what we got

      @AffyisAffy@AffyisAffy Жыл бұрын

    • "more" ? It would've been better if there had been ANY character development at all.

      @LemuriaGames@LemuriaGames Жыл бұрын

    • @@LemuriaGames characters development is over rated. Did Hamlet have character development?

      @_scabs6669@_scabs6669 Жыл бұрын

    • If we got to see Kylo's character development from a weak impulsive angry child that always loses to Ray over the movies to become a worthy villain who worked hard and sacrificed alot to become powerful to pursue his goals, then it would have been a wonderful villain arc. like he becomes stronger everytime he loses to Ray, and finally becomes the villain he strifed to be

      @---iv5gj@---iv5gj Жыл бұрын

  • I just found this channel a few days ago and weirdly, you've been spot on about everything so far. I teach introductory film at a college and I just WISH I could show your vids to my college students.. but then someone would whine to my boss and my union would have to hire a lawyer... I guess what I'm saying is that although people *say* that college professors have autonomy and academic freedom, we don't. So there's that...

    @dubliners0999@dubliners0999 Жыл бұрын

    • You have academic freedom... with a catch. You are free to accept the party line, and expected to do it with autonomy. It's called "surrender"

      @ironheadedDoF@ironheadedDoF Жыл бұрын

  • John Wick killed everyone, no discrimination. Just remember that.

    @ScrumPMC@ScrumPMC3 жыл бұрын

    • and so did Tony Montana, no more Many, no more Gina and no more Soza

      @D0NU75@D0NU753 жыл бұрын

    • Only death that was wrong was his adorable dog's death. 🤬

      @putalover4519@putalover45193 жыл бұрын

    • That's because it's more of an indie film that became popular over and above what was expected than a traditional Hollywood controlled blockbuster. Don't for one minute think that the powers that be haven't got the franchise in their crosshairs.

      @ty194@ty1943 жыл бұрын

    • And it makes sense and was glorious

      @AudioGAWD@AudioGAWD3 жыл бұрын

    • There was that one guy in the first film he let live... The Russian bodyguard

      @Bb-xq7gk@Bb-xq7gk3 жыл бұрын

  • It's odd that we are judged for disliking these characters because of their gender when it's the writers that clearly have an issue with gender.

    @ssj4broly974@ssj4broly9743 жыл бұрын

    • It's like the writers has lost the ability to write a good female protagonist over the years

      @anhondacivic6541@anhondacivic65413 жыл бұрын

    • They don't. They're just afraid of Snowflakes marching!

      @arturama8581@arturama85813 жыл бұрын

    • @@anhondacivic6541 Exactly its sad.

      @elongatedmanforever1252@elongatedmanforever12523 жыл бұрын

    • @@arturama8581 That's why they will be forever trapped in a repetition of failure.

      @elongatedmanforever1252@elongatedmanforever12523 жыл бұрын

    • it's an agenda

      @cumonurface@cumonurface3 жыл бұрын

  • What happened to our villains? They're our 'heroes' now. The CW's Batwoman comes to mind as a specific example. So many of the new-generation "heroes" don't just have flawed personalities, they have the personality of an anti-villain ... or worse.

    @countfrackula6707@countfrackula6707 Жыл бұрын

    • Weak argument. Pro wrestling has been pulling that stunt for decades now. Heel turns hero with the flip of a switch, and the reverse.

      @thomasn3882@thomasn3882 Жыл бұрын

    • They'll call evil good and good evil

      @amicableenmity9820@amicableenmity98207 ай бұрын

    • @@thomasn3882He’s right. Characters like Rey, Captain Marvel, ROP Galadriel, and Billy Butcher have similar mindsets to Anakin Skywalker in the prequels, except that the narrative validates them.

      @fromthecheapseats7126@fromthecheapseats71264 ай бұрын

  • If not for the trinity of Georges writing, David Prowses physical portrayal, and finally James Earl Jones voice bringing out Vaders eloquent menace. I don't think Vader would have become one of the greatest Villains in cinema.

    @xSilentVeterenx@xSilentVeterenx Жыл бұрын

    • So if Vader wasnt Vader he wouldnt be vader?..

      @curfuffle7420@curfuffle7420 Жыл бұрын

    • So basically if he wasn’t written, acted and voiced as he was, he would’ve been different and therefore potentially not as good? Thanks for that mate, what’s your next observation - that if your auntie has bollox she’d be your uncle?

      @acefire6422@acefire6422 Жыл бұрын

  • I'd rather see a weak woman overcome her shortcomings to defeat a stronger male character(Like cartoon Mulan) not a god woman beating a weakling "man" (Like in the Mulan remake)

    @luispagan9170@luispagan91703 жыл бұрын

    • what song wrong about a woman being strong?

      @lifeline.6144@lifeline.61443 жыл бұрын

    • Nope...no you wouldn't...you would complain no matter what the female character does...thats the game you guys play. You would just say, 'Oh, come on...there is no way that woman with no arms just KOed The Rock! What's this feminist BS!!'

      @patrickkilduff4355@patrickkilduff43553 жыл бұрын

    • Yes!

      @ggt47@ggt473 жыл бұрын

    • Soon as I saw Mulan slide down the exterior of the building and land without a scratch the movie was turned off.

      @heru7182@heru71823 жыл бұрын

    • @@patrickkilduff4355 there is so much stupidity in this statement that its actually funny

      @ThiccRat-Chan@ThiccRat-Chan3 жыл бұрын

  • The worst thing is that Kylo Ren still is by far the most interesting character in the sequel...

    @jonnyk5632@jonnyk56323 жыл бұрын

    • I dislike the truth in this statement.

      @dragonoverlord_2379@dragonoverlord_23793 жыл бұрын

    • I think Finn was pretty interesting, but I still get your point. Rey could've been a great character, but she just started off with outrageous power and never started off weak the way Luke did. She never actually lost and never actually grew, and didn't really have much of an internal conflict either.

      @troy242621@troy2426213 жыл бұрын

    • Agree

      @margarethafalco63@margarethafalco633 жыл бұрын

    • best part about the series

      @jasonbarnes6568@jasonbarnes65683 жыл бұрын

    • @@troy242621 I agree and disagree with your comment. I found Finn interesting in the force awakens especially his backstory and the way he betrayed the first order and he also had potential to be a Jedi knight, but instead he became a comedic relief in the last Jedi and rise of Skywalker, all of the potential Finn had was thrown out the window and he also needed to rely on other characters and kept getting his ass saved over and over. Ryan Johnson and J.J. Abrams fucked up his character and wasted his potential. (Edit: Also yeah Rey was also wasted and Kathleen Kennedy wanted Rey with no flaws and made her never go through trials and hardships and never made her struggle which made her uninteresting and made the audience question why were suppose to root for her, she had no flaws no personality she didn't go through any hardships or struggles which ultimately made her bland boring and forgettable.

      @infinitedumbass6508@infinitedumbass65083 жыл бұрын

  • "The problem with good guys, is that they have to follow the rules. Bad guys make their own rules"

    @ronh1752@ronh1752 Жыл бұрын

    • What about antiheroes who write their own rules but are ultimately on the side of good?

      @Wolffman109@Wolffman109 Жыл бұрын

    • ​@@Wolffman109a antihero might sacrifice 1 for 100 but a hero nevel will.

      @laxmanrawat748@laxmanrawat7488 ай бұрын

  • When I watched that movie at the theater, at first I loved Kylo Ren and that was it until he removed the mask. I actually shouted PUT IT BACK PLEASE, PUT IT BACK! which provoked a huge laughter at the theater. Kylo changed from a psycho with Force powers to a whinny crybaby in that move, absolutely killing everything of value this movie had for me.

    @adnelortiz@adnelortiz8 ай бұрын

    • It was 10mins into that film I realised that it would be appalling.

      @Jamie-666@Jamie-6668 ай бұрын

  • A great villain not only opposes the main character but also exposes and eventually burns away the main character's flaws.

    @Brandon_Powell@Brandon_Powell3 жыл бұрын

    • That’s why Joker and Batman are great

      @bemotivated8443@bemotivated84433 жыл бұрын

    • Usually by exploiting them for their own gain, forcing the hero to confront those flaws in order avoid making any more costly mistakes.

      @MisterPuck@MisterPuck3 жыл бұрын

    • @@bemotivated8443 Precisely.

      @Brandon_Powell@Brandon_Powell3 жыл бұрын

    • @@MisterPuck This is going to be a bit of a weird pull but the TV show The Following was a great example of that. That show has its fair share of flaws but the dynamic between the main character and the main villain was electric.

      @Brandon_Powell@Brandon_Powell3 жыл бұрын

    • Those type of villains are my favorites

      @shadowofthenorthstar989@shadowofthenorthstar9893 жыл бұрын

  • "What would Captain Marvel be without Brie Larson?" My fucking sides, man lmao

    @cringefairy2687@cringefairy26873 жыл бұрын

    • Imagine this: Captain Marvel, interpreted by Emily Blunt. I'd watch that, because she can play the "though girl" character great! Doesn't even matter if the story turns out to be garbage, is she had even an ounce of charisma in her character I would've enjoyed the movie. Instead, we got a character whose only highlight is getting beaten by Thanos in Endgame.

      @mancodelepanto2696@mancodelepanto26962 жыл бұрын

    • @@mancodelepanto2696 Emily Blunt MUST join the MCU one way or another as a badass character. If you're not seeing it then go watch Edge of Tomorrow. And she's oh so beautiful... Just wow.

      @vinslungur@vinslungur2 жыл бұрын

    • @@mancodelepanto2696 I'd still prefer Katee Sackhoff, but she would deserve a better movie than Marvel wanted to make.

      @jaffarebellion292@jaffarebellion2922 жыл бұрын

    • Is that a personal attack or something?

      @paladin8052@paladin80522 жыл бұрын

    • 👏👏👏

      @DMF121@DMF1212 жыл бұрын

  • this is why I end up rooting more for villains nowadays, a lot of them became the underdog. The roles are reversed and so is the effects of the characters.

    @sharkquisha3407@sharkquisha3407 Жыл бұрын

  • A good edit to Kylo would be he would keep his entire mask on for Episode 7 and when Rey slashed his face we could see his eyes, making more mystery around the Kylo Ren, and explaining why Kylo didn’t freaking die when Rey slashed his face open.

    @trgc_7548@trgc_7548 Жыл бұрын

    • They already did that trick in Rebels with Vader and Ahsoka, so they can't do it again... Maybe.

      @SennaAugustus@SennaAugustus9 ай бұрын

  • He is exactly correct. This is beyond a trope by now.

    @A_YouTube_Commenter@A_YouTube_Commenter3 жыл бұрын

    • We prop these tropes up by slavishly paying to see them. Tropes could be seen as a natural outgrowth of marketing+consumer apathy.

      @Troublechutor@Troublechutor3 жыл бұрын

    • A You Tube Commenter it's become its own meme

      @MonoLith2049@MonoLith20493 жыл бұрын

    • You should watch Run, Hide, Fight. Female protagonist that kicks predominantly male ass, but they set up her character and skills, and the baddies are not inept, she just outsmarts and outguns them.

      @TheEducator89@TheEducator893 жыл бұрын

    • The Invisible Man 2020.

      @killyourjoy@killyourjoy3 жыл бұрын

    • Yeah I believe the guy has a good point.

      @hughcaires7434@hughcaires74343 жыл бұрын

  • Captain Marvel's only weakness was that she didn't believe in her power. Hilarious.

    @BarkusMuhl@BarkusMuhl3 жыл бұрын

    • Actually her weakness was that power limiter device she had on, which she could've very easily have taken off at any point in the movie had she known what it really was.

      @christopherregan1654@christopherregan16543 жыл бұрын

    • While I'm not familiar with the movie too much, just going off that excerpt, it could still be made to work: instead of having her one-shot him in the desert, have the confrontation take place in a city or other area where going full power would cause unacceptable levels of collateral damage, forcing her to lure him to a more open area before she can nuke him. However, he catches on to this and stops letting her lead him by the nose, taking a defensive stance with the intent of wearing her out. As the fight wears on, she's forced to confront the possibility of not being able to get a clean hit on him and has to start weighing whether it's better to stop him here, killing who knows how many people in the process, or to let him go for now, not knowing how many lives he might take before she has a second chance. While a superhero movie will inevitably choose to have him conveniently blunder into an area where she can beat him without any causalities, you can get all the psychological drama of "maybe she can't win" without taking away the ridiculously overpowered nature of the character. But even that's probably far too far for modern movies.

      @angrymokyuu1951@angrymokyuu19513 жыл бұрын

    • Underrated comment

      @razabazal4669@razabazal46693 жыл бұрын

    • Same shit as Mulan... That kind of writing is the laziest I've ever seen, no wonder why Hollywood is going to heck (which is probably the best thing).

      @D3K018@D3K0183 жыл бұрын

    • she didnt believe in the power of feminism at 1st then when she came to term with it, she became overpowered

      @zazugee@zazugee3 жыл бұрын

  • One of the main problems from movies is that there are too many jokes in them you cant take anything seriously in it because every minute there is this stupid joke that is never funny you can have jokes in a movie but there is always so many jokes that like I said you can’t take anything seriously in a movie

    @stanimal8498@stanimal8498 Жыл бұрын

    • Thor: love and thunder in a nutshell

      @crazygameplays1863@crazygameplays1863 Жыл бұрын

    • The jokes are ridicule. Mainly at the audience.

      @ironheadedDoF@ironheadedDoF Жыл бұрын

  • i miss the villains like agent smith that can command the aura of a whole room and making you shivers when he said “Human beings define their reality through misery and suffering”

    @massam9343@massam9343 Жыл бұрын

  • This is why Alita was a better female hero. She got FUCKED up, and even needed help from her male counterparts (gasp!), which made it more satisfying seeing her overcome her enemies later.

    @michaelfranciotti3900@michaelfranciotti39003 жыл бұрын

    • One of the rare modern female protagonist that has been done well besides from Ripley, sarah, etc.

      @fr0ck360@fr0ck3603 жыл бұрын

    • Yup, especially because it have her plenty of chance to grow

      @danyyilbun6736@danyyilbun67363 жыл бұрын

    • Alita is such a great example.

      @cobo1316@cobo13163 жыл бұрын

    • True that. Especially if you read the whole manga series.

      @flyinggeneral@flyinggeneral3 жыл бұрын

    • One if my all time favourite movies. She was a fantastic lead chatacter

      @davedave8219@davedave82193 жыл бұрын

  • True. Modern Villians are more like anti or tragic heroes.

    @undertaker9991@undertaker99913 жыл бұрын

    • We legit villains again

      @bombomos@bombomos3 жыл бұрын

    • That’s why I am excited for Dune and Venom 2 Carnage

      @bemotivated8443@bemotivated84433 жыл бұрын

    • Well not all of them. I think people went for a more realistic sympathetic approach to villains. I'm ok with that and I'm ok with the occasional darkseid level evil character

      @unicronthedestroyer8016@unicronthedestroyer80163 жыл бұрын

    • @@unicronthedestroyer8016 I think Marvel has ruined villains by making it so that the hero ha to sass them from the very beginning.

      @bengale9977@bengale99773 жыл бұрын

    • @@bemotivated8443 Venom 1 was a joke but decent enough to get a pass.

      @Legion849@Legion8493 жыл бұрын

  • Maximilian the robot in the film the black hole was an intimidating menacing villain, there was nothing weak or conflicted about him. He was very vader like. soon as kylo took the helmet off his character was ruined, people had hope for snoke and they killed him off too, the message was more important to them than a great villain in the 3 films

    @Blobby192@Blobby192 Жыл бұрын

    • Maximilian was like the dark, brooding enforcer reluctant to hear from his very creator. Dr. Hans Reinhardt. Himself being a cold, ruthless and cunning commander who did the most unimaginable things to his crew. Like Palpatine and Vader. Only to be found 20 years later by the most unlikely heroes.

      @deathstrike@deathstrike Жыл бұрын

  • Anton Chigrr from No Country for Old Men is the greatest antagonist in recent cinema history, in my opinion. He is capable, cold blooded as hell, but he also is a man who lives by some higher code than merely his own whims. The coin toss scene in the filling station, and the one at the end of the movie were epic.

    @Terminal-Vet@Terminal-Vet Жыл бұрын

  • _”...You’ll never get your audience to care about their struggle, because they don’t have one.”_ ...The Drinker nails it.

    @JeddieT@JeddieT3 жыл бұрын

    • As much, conversely, our civilization has bred a generation with no "struggle," so they've invented one in order to have sympathy given. You know, because they are empty.

      @therevelistmovement4683@therevelistmovement46833 жыл бұрын

    • @@therevelistmovement4683 ...Very, very true. They cannot handle not having a religion, so they have to invent one. Enter: the religion of “wokeness” hand delivered to their feet. And all they have to do is believe without question; adhere with militant ignorance; and like any religion, fight ‘till their last breath against any who dare oppose. ...All so they no longer have to think.

      @JeddieT@JeddieT3 жыл бұрын

    • @@JeddieT Bear in mind, too, that THEIR faith is one which should be opposed, because it is a false faith. It is NOT organic. Yes, faith can be problematic, but it is usually out of a genuine misunderstanding and true ignorance of much, if anything, in the world. In some ways, it is like an unaware, innocent child; given time, it will learn. Even then, if you are up against the type of faith that does know something BEYOND itself and chooses to remain closed, it might just take a bit more of a struggle to reform it to see broader, but there is STILL a chance. However, with wokeness, it was bred from the echoes of inauthentic platitudes, a thickened shadow of nothing that was, from its very inception, meant to kill the human spirit. (Most other faiths "think" they are doing good, that is, until dumb people fuck it up.)

      @therevelistmovement4683@therevelistmovement46833 жыл бұрын

    • No, no... we didn't like Rey or Captain Marvel because we're sexist pigs. Come, let us flagellate ourselves incessantly, though we will never be pure and holy regardless of what we do. /s

      @grantjohnson5785@grantjohnson57853 жыл бұрын

  • The coolest thing about Vader in the first film was he was even an outcast by the Imperials who either looked down upon his supernatural beliefs or were just plain too scared of him to associate, leaving him truly isolated and working directly for the antagonistic cause with no other motivations. A true black knight character more than the typical evil general archetype.

    @carriermodulation@carriermodulation2 жыл бұрын

    • My two favorite villains are Vader and Lechter. Both are calculating, intelligent, and refined. Notice Vader always addresses with rank and name, even those he kills. But more importantly, the character development shows what made them, and you develop empathy for them and want to see them redeemed. Harris accomplished it better in the books than the movies portrayed.

      @keithmarlowe5569@keithmarlowe55692 жыл бұрын

    • One of my favourite parts too. When he talked about the force in episode 4 and the officers ridiculed him, calling it superstition, and treating him an idiot. he went from a member of a highly respected, well known order, surrounded with people who shared (partially) his beliefs, to being completely alone in the universe and he did all of this to himself...

      @Storiaron@Storiaron2 жыл бұрын

    • @@keithmarlowe5569 I found Vader and Lechter to be symbols of power and intelligence that inspired fear and still somehow they appealed to our sympathies. Villains Luke Tuco Salimonco (Breaking Bad) and Ramsey Snow (Game of Thrones) were straight up violent killers, highly intelligent and unpredictable. They're some of my favorite villains bc they don't project any sympathy whatsoever. You know they are killers, sociopaths that get pleasure from inflicting pain and chaos. The audience wants them far away or dealt with just to get their menace away from the main characters. A true villain isn't sympathetic at least to me.

      @olliefoxx7165@olliefoxx71652 жыл бұрын

    • @@olliefoxx7165 Well Said! "If you think this has a happy ending, you haven't been paying attention". Maybe the most awful taunt ever uttered.

      @keithmarlowe5569@keithmarlowe55692 жыл бұрын

    • This will blow your mind. But Darth Vader is in fact a death knight. He's even basically dead kept alive by technology. But he broke his vows, is cursed, and hates everything good because of it.

      @darthtrader4762@darthtrader47622 жыл бұрын

  • We need a movie where the Writers, Directors, Producers and other members who support them to be portrayed as Villains and the guy wins against them and makes them feel like they were the Baddies all along...

    @DeepKumar.@DeepKumar. Жыл бұрын

  • If there's something I've learned as I continue to age and grow in this time period, it's that everyone who once strived for equality decided that it either wasn't given to them quickly enough, or that it simply wasn't enough. Almost no one wants true neutrality and true equality, these days. Everyone wants to be special and everyone wants to be treated differently. But rather than earn it, they feel _entitled_ to it because of their ancestry or the way things went in a relatively distant past. And unfortunately, big companies like to bend over backward to these kinds of people because they are - or were - the "unspoken minority". Give people an inch and they'll take a mile. 🤷‍♀

    @JoLiKMC@JoLiKMC Жыл бұрын

    • Before, these people wanted equality and rightfully so. Now they want superiority, that's different.

      @xminusone1@xminusone1 Жыл бұрын

  • Kylo Ren's whole "conflicted angry dramatic teenager trying to be something he's not" thing isn't even bad. That's actually a pretty fleshed out flaw to have, especially knowing what his past is. But considering it was used to lift Rey up instead of turning Ben into a compelling character, it just makes him look pathetic.

    @chiaknight@chiaknight3 жыл бұрын

    • "Has anyone seen my zit cream!!! Arggg.! Ill kill you all!"

      @michaelcameron76@michaelcameron763 жыл бұрын

    • Yeah, he wants to be an evil dude (maybe because that's what Luke painted him as anyway), but he almost falls to the light side constantly. This could have made him a very unstable compelling villain who commits exceedingly horrible acts because he wants to fuel his own self-loathing and prove that he totally is this evil dude, while he actually isn't at heart. However, because he forms no threat (like Vader did in ESB) he doesn't feel like someone with his own agenda and history. He shouldn't have lost so much to Rey, it's a disservice to both their characters.

      @twinkles190@twinkles1903 жыл бұрын

    • ​@Mister Twinkles Right, he could have been turned into an interesting character. I almost hoped that after the middle of EP8, when he kills Snoke, then his red guards with Rey's help. Make him either understand his errors, and come back to the bright side, or be colder and smarter, understanding than he's now free to go his own way as a Galactic overlord. . But this never happened. Sad...

      @herheartbeats5727@herheartbeats57273 жыл бұрын

    • Kylo should have been the "unstable mass shooter" type and Rey the unfortunate--but compassionate--server of justice, bearing witness to an imploding aimless young soul.

      @werecat9834@werecat98343 жыл бұрын

    • and General Hugs like something out of a Scooby Doo cartoon.

      @purefoldnz3070@purefoldnz30703 жыл бұрын

  • Rey can swim in the Last Jedi. She grew up in the desert. But she can swim. She can pilot a boat in the Rise of Skywalker, in a storm that was supposed to be dangerous. Nope. Rey can do it with ease. Han flew the Falcon for decades. Rey fixes the compressor and saves them. Fixed the Falcon in a way that Han is impressed by, almost like Han couldn’t do it himself.

    @bigorange2082@bigorange20823 жыл бұрын

    • You just summarized all my major greivances about rey. That and her beating ren on her first time holding a lightsaber..

      @act2wasstronger182@act2wasstronger1822 жыл бұрын

    • I'm going to go on saying this is all fine if Rey ever had to come to terms with her power. You know, with being a Palpatine and all. Let's say that the Emperor has had a secret connection to her for years. He's helped her out whenever she needed it, because her triumphing and coming to Exegol is in fact his endgame. When she finds out, she now has to deal with being a Palpatine. Her final internal conflict, instead of being "lol nope, I'm a Skywalker, bro," can be actually dealing with that fact and proving that she can be an independent character and show that her name does not define her destiny.

      @sethb3090@sethb30902 жыл бұрын

    • @@sethb3090 Yeah. Just imagine if she had said "Palpatine" at the end of episode 9. Or even "just Rey". Both would have been acceptable answers that wouldn't have pissed people off. It could have been her coming to terms with her heritage and then choosing to either accept it or leave it behind. Instead, she decides to pretend it never existed.

      @jamesshelton308@jamesshelton3082 жыл бұрын

    • @@sethb3090 Palpatine is dead, period. Reviving him is 100% stupid and nonsensical, it dissolves everything that happened in the original trilogy and makes it meaningless. But Palpatine is really dead, he fell down a LOOOONG ventilation shaft, plus then the death star that he was lying dead on the floor of exploded. Nope, not coming back from that. But the writers team was creatively bankrupt, they did not know what to write, so they recycled the biggest villain that Star Wars had, making it even more ridiculous.

      @nigratruo@nigratruo2 жыл бұрын

    • @@jamesshelton308 thats just putting a cherry on a pile of shit. Its still unedible.

      @Jebu911@Jebu9112 жыл бұрын

  • Some of those negative traits, like insecurity or lack of self-control, can still work for a villain, so long as they're handled in a way that still threatens the hero. The problem is that these traits are used more as a way to make it easier for the hero to win. Or, a villain might have one or more of these traits, but keep them well-hidden, and the hero can't win unless they manage to uncover that weakness. Some tropes and traits aren't good or bad in themselves; it sometimes just depends on how they're used. More often than not in modern movies, they're used poorly and only serve an agenda.

    @thywordistruth2720@thywordistruth27209 ай бұрын

    • One of my favorite villains of all time came from a game called Titanfall 2. His name was kuben blisk. He was a leader of mercenaries hired to deliver a payload to a superweapon. The entire game you're trying to stop him. In the end, the only reason you "beat" him is because he accomplishes his task. He delivers the payload and finishes his contract. He doesn't lose to you, he just leaves the equation because he gets what he wants.

      @Asageun@Asageun9 ай бұрын

  • This is my favorite video of yours. Every word is absolute inescapable truth. And unfortunately, the more pampered society becomes, the more it becomes offended with, and the less flexible our stories become. We are headed toward a very boring inoffensive future.

    @robertmoats1890@robertmoats18904 ай бұрын

  • Interestingly enough, the first Thor movie strikes a perfect balance by having Thor be emotionally immature but stronger than Loki, who is more composed and knows how to manipulate things in his favor. It's more a subtle relationship between the protagonist and antagonist.

    @tailedgates9@tailedgates93 жыл бұрын

    • Yeah Thor grows throughout his movies and avengers movies. Loki also grow as a character, he's also getting a new series now.

      @noahwiley2846@noahwiley28463 жыл бұрын

    • @Winter Green Yeah endgame messed him up but in the Thor trilogy he grew into full godhood.

      @mumandubula1788@mumandubula17882 жыл бұрын

    • Loki is the best character

      @thechroniclegamer4285@thechroniclegamer42852 жыл бұрын

    • @Winter Green I mean he got depressed like anyone would after failing to save half of the universe.

      @mihaifazacas7133@mihaifazacas71332 жыл бұрын

    • I like Loki, but he gets owned by basically everyone. Think about it. When was the last time he actually won a fight? Yeah he just about beats Cap in the first Avengers movie, gets out thought by Black Widow in the same film. Then what? He gets outsmarted and and fought by virtually everyone after that. Beaten by Sif, Dr Strange, Valkyrie, Thanos, even Jane slaps him with no repercussions. Total let down of what could have been a great character. I don't even want to watch the TV show.

      @25019719@250197192 жыл бұрын

  • “What would captain marvel be without Brie Larson?” I’d be fuckin better

    @Chicken_Sht_@Chicken_Sht_3 жыл бұрын

    • Disagree. The source material was weak. Danvers is a shit character. CM movie never had a chance.

      @Sandman_10372@Sandman_103723 жыл бұрын

    • @@Sandman_10372 yeah I put she’s instead of she’d accidentally

      @Chicken_Sht_@Chicken_Sht_3 жыл бұрын

    • Is that like a personal attack or something?... Brie Larson.

      @chrishern8645@chrishern86453 жыл бұрын

    • Look at batwoman it can always get worse

      @jharvey62778@jharvey627783 жыл бұрын

    • @@jharvey62778 or doctor who....

      @EternalPayne@EternalPayne3 жыл бұрын

  • As soon as I heard the, "Who talks first?"' Line I felt like I was watching one of those Judd Apatow flicks with awkward dialogue. Then when Starkiller was revealed it hit me that I was watching a fucking remake...

    @theaccursedj.e.2723@theaccursedj.e.2723 Жыл бұрын

  • The funny thing is, you can write "weak" villains good too. Look at Prince Zuko from Avatar the Last Airbender, Zuko basically gets his ass kicked by Aang the entire first season however he's shown as young and arrogant but honorable and admittedly has much to learn. So as time goes on he trains and gets better, every fight gets harder and harder for the heroes to the point where if he didn't wind up switching sides, he probably would've been the most dangerous fire bender alive. Good enough writing can bend the rules if it wants to

    @94jetsfan@94jetsfan4 ай бұрын

    • Zuko is the best Anti-villain character ever written. Its actually insane how great his character is. THE best redemption arc in history.

      @IamAmygdala@IamAmygdala3 ай бұрын

  • No, Vader didn’t stop a blaster bolt midair. He just deflected them off an outstretched hand like a true badass.

    @clydemarshall8095@clydemarshall80952 жыл бұрын

    • Literally tanked the hit like it wasn't a problem.

      @clockworklemon9243@clockworklemon92432 жыл бұрын

    • He wasn't talking about Vader, he was talking about Ren.

      @viddork@viddork2 жыл бұрын

    • @@viddork I invite you to reread my comment.

      @clydemarshall8095@clydemarshall80952 жыл бұрын

    • @@clydemarshall8095 Oddly, it seems to say exactly the same thing it said the first time I read it. More importantly, I relistened to the Drinker's comment to which you were responding, and now see my error.

      @viddork@viddork2 жыл бұрын

    • And then theres Maul who just flicked his hand and the bolts changed direction while not even standing up from his throne.

      @tamashorvath224@tamashorvath2242 жыл бұрын

  • It’s crazy how count dooku and Darth maul who barely have any screen time are better villains than any of the sequel villains

    @vanillabryce2965@vanillabryce2965 Жыл бұрын

    • @Musical Matt Why would you call clone wars terrible but rebels really really good? Your logic doesn't add up.

      @pixel3042@pixel3042 Жыл бұрын

    • @Matthew van Duyn why is clone wars terrible but rebels really really good?

      @iamacatperson7226@iamacatperson7226 Жыл бұрын

    • @Matthew van Duyn i think your a little confused

      @joeblox8773@joeblox8773 Жыл бұрын

    • That's true!!!

      @tonyfendex2558@tonyfendex2558 Жыл бұрын

    • @@matthewvanduyn15 Lol imagine calling TCW terrible and Rebels "really really good". Sounds on the verge of being bait.

      @LordVader1094@LordVader1094 Жыл бұрын

  • I actually think the childish outburst thing could have been scary had it been done right. It could have made him dangerously unpredictable, but they would have had to make the outbursts overwhelming to everyone around him, especially the hero.

    @pathutchison7688@pathutchison76886 ай бұрын

  • One of the best movie villain I know was The Operative from Serenity (2005) played by Chiwetel Ejioford. Very (very) well written and interpreted adversary with a clear motive, calm, smart, methodical, unshakable resolution and supreme competence. Very scary guy.

    @-NoneOfYourBusiness@-NoneOfYourBusiness4 ай бұрын

    • Hear, hear! Awesome villain in an awesome movie! "This is a good death."

      @Adamguy2003@Adamguy20033 ай бұрын

    • @@Adamguy2003 omg, yes. So good.

      @-NoneOfYourBusiness@-NoneOfYourBusiness3 ай бұрын

  • Eowyn from "The Lord of the Rings" is a female character who scores the greatest single-combat victory by any human in the entire saga. Not one of the male heroes scores a one-on-one win on par with defeating Sauron's right hand man, the immortal Witch King (admittedly, she had help from Merry, but while his heroism made victory possible, Eowyn still had to actually go out and win- she had to kill a freaking dragon before she could even take a shot at the SOB). And she does this all while protecting the body of King Theoden. Protecting the body of a your fallen king from capture and mutilation was the most noble thing an Anglo-Saxon warrior could do, so she is excelling in a variety of traditionally male roles all without magically making the men incompetent, sacrificing her femininity, or coming across as a "Strong Female Character". And she was written by a deeply conservative Catholic man with zero interest in any feminist agenda. Oh, the delicious irony.

    @USBearForce@USBearForce2 жыл бұрын

    • @@blakejohnson3864 I think the commenter meant "Strong Female Character" in the sense of the modern cinematic stereotype of a strong female character, hence the scare quotes.

      @milesrout@milesrout2 жыл бұрын

    • @@blakejohnson3864 you must not have got the context. Nowadays people write female characters just to be female characters, with no real depth. Eowyn’s line was in response to the WitchKing, who said that no man could kill him

      @johnmorgan6316@johnmorgan63162 жыл бұрын

    • It was because he was a deeply Catholic man that he fairly treated the character and women well. No irony in the least, Catholics very much respect women considering our respect for Mary as an example and Eve both.

      @fractalelf7760@fractalelf77602 жыл бұрын

    • @@fractalelf7760 Perhaps I should have clarified, I meant ironic in comparison to the currently widespread narrative that the only way to make a female character "strong and capable" is to make her an aggressive, hyper-macho, disagreeable jerk who is always openly declaring how she "don't need no man" and is fighting "the traditional patriarchy". The irony is that a man who "should" be a stereotypical woman-hater in the minds of the Pink Haired People wrote far more nuanced and inspiring women than anything in their feminist screed.

      @USBearForce@USBearForce2 жыл бұрын

    • @@USBearForce That's not a widespread narrative tho.

      @davidspiller7977@davidspiller79772 жыл бұрын

  • In 20 years the villains are going to act and look like the main actor from Robinhood: Men in Tights.

    @keenfire8151@keenfire81513 жыл бұрын

    • Funny you should mention it: His actor, Cary Elwes, played the EEEEEVIIIIILLLL misogynist main villain in 2019's revolting and unwatchable 'Black Christmas' remake- in- name- only. So, I guess it's started already!

      @Adamguy2003@Adamguy20033 жыл бұрын

    • @@Adamguy2003 NOOOOO!

      @keenfire8151@keenfire81513 жыл бұрын

    • I AM NOT A MERRY MAN

      @aratay3117@aratay31173 жыл бұрын

    • @@Adamguy2003 He's woke now. Maybe he always has been. Either way, total douche.

      @Subhumanslug@Subhumanslug3 жыл бұрын

    • @@Subhumanslug If so, it's a shame. I met him at a con a couple years ago, and he seemed like a pleasant guy.

      @Adamguy2003@Adamguy20033 жыл бұрын

  • This reminds me of John McEnroe's "controversy" when he said it as it was, that women and men compete differently, and when asked where he would place one of the Williams sisters, he said about 700th in the mens division.

    @ToeInMyJam@ToeInMyJam10 ай бұрын

  • "Blessed is the man who has powerful enemies, for they shall make him a hero" - Might is Right, 1896

    @BackusCreativeImaging@BackusCreativeImaging6 ай бұрын

  • I think "Lazy Town" was the last mainstream TV show with believable villains.

    @cjrogers9060@cjrogers90603 жыл бұрын

    • Underrated comment.

      @iamaphantom6905@iamaphantom69053 жыл бұрын

    • 😂 Robbie Rotten 😂

      @bobsmudger3979@bobsmudger39793 жыл бұрын

    • "Who were you expecting? SPORTA-FLOP???"

      @misterdewott8766@misterdewott87663 жыл бұрын

    • My man, Robbie Rotten! 😉

      @darrensmith8730@darrensmith87303 жыл бұрын

    • dude, you killed me.

      @avigil7583@avigil75833 жыл бұрын

  • I like what Jordan Peterson said about how we see the villain as the necessary shadow in all of us, so a lame villain is actually insulting the audience

    @johnjozefowicz2022@johnjozefowicz20222 жыл бұрын

    • That man is very wise and Brave

      @sunso1991@sunso19912 жыл бұрын

    • I was going to say from the start, the villains are no longer villains. The heros have become the villains.

      @brianwright9514@brianwright95142 жыл бұрын

    • If that is true, we come up with nonsensical villains when we are incapable of seeing the evil within ourselves (which our modern self-righteous and self-absorbed movie audiences are).

      @koalabandit9166@koalabandit91662 жыл бұрын

    • well said, it also makes alot of sense.

      @gromheat@gromheat2 жыл бұрын

    • Villians actually posses most things a Good man should be when it comes to mindset. Focused on a Goal, and try to get it with logical reason and power regardless of what people say. New villians are as if they are mocking modern men: fat middle aged Man no true goals, Huge anger issues and Constantly complaining about what they want and not going through with it because our hero is the woman and woman are good strong and capable. Weak villians is whoever is writing these lame villians is a personal attack on Men in my opinion.

      @p23studios@p23studios Жыл бұрын

  • Thank you for this video, it is very educational for aspiring writers, who unlike them care about writing good character especially the antagonist. You added good examples and it was right comparation with bad examples. I hope you will upload new videos with similar topics.

    @juliamelik3434@juliamelik3434 Жыл бұрын

  • One of my favourite recent villains is actually Bellweather from Zootopia. She is quite competent, and knows exactly what to say and what to do to get her way. She knows the value of marketing and manipulation, and then uses all of that to come crashing down on the hero. She doesn't lose because of her own incompetence. She loses by the heroes' outwitting her. A great villain.

    @aidanw9378@aidanw93787 ай бұрын

  • This is what happens when you have a generation of "writers" that were never taught how writing actually works.

    @PoolKid75@PoolKid753 жыл бұрын

    • Social Politics was more important than Creative Writing.

      @AndrewFishman@AndrewFishman3 жыл бұрын

    • To be fair, they don't have to learn how to write a decent story, because that's not what they get paid for. It's also why the only movies that get made are off of already well established IP.

      @UnbeltedSundew@UnbeltedSundew3 жыл бұрын

    • This is happening too consistently for it to be attributed solely to mere incompetence. These writers are part of a cabal subverting our culture in accordance to Marxist tactics, as Yuri Bezemenov has laid out.

      @sirquaffler542@sirquaffler5423 жыл бұрын

    • When writers are people who never lived a life of their own.

      @hankrearden20@hankrearden203 жыл бұрын

    • @Forta Leza Thing is, how the HELL did we get to the point that traditional storytelling, bad guy strong so hero needs to get stronger, become a big risk!?

      @magmos6346@magmos63463 жыл бұрын

  • I've always felt that it's because "heroes" are now the self-insert of the writer. One who often has an agenda. The villain then becomes the embodiment of what the writer hates. So, instead of Darth Vader we get whiny, screamy, tantrum-throwing pseudo nazis. Instead of Zuul, we get a sort of hateful and socially awkward incel. We get white men mansplaining their evil plans to the heroic women who have been given only x0.77 of the respect he has been given all their lives. All of which makes for really boring villains.

    @josemanuelmunizherrera920@josemanuelmunizherrera9203 жыл бұрын

    • This is spot on.

      @ty194@ty1943 жыл бұрын

    • that sadly spot on

      @stormeaglegaming5395@stormeaglegaming53953 жыл бұрын

    • Based and psychology-pilled.

      @summushieremiasclarkson4700@summushieremiasclarkson47003 жыл бұрын

    • In the end, villains cannot be stronger than the hero, because the hero IS the writer, and is the embodiment of everything the writer despises. The villain must be beneath him, because he is the hero. Burdened with divine purpose and unquestionable moral authority. If the villain was given the chance to be stronger than the hero, or more just, or morally superior, then that would expose the faults of the hero, and hence, the writer himself. Something which, of course, cannot be allowed, as this might break the writers perception of himself, and force him to see his own failings and mistakes. If the writer has this flaws, then he is not perfect, and that is just beyond even being dreamed of. So, the villain must be brought low quick, and must be kept there. Evil, yet weak, and wrong, and despicable. A mewling thing to be stepped on and trampled by the hero... the writer himself, personified within the story.

      @josemanuelmunizherrera920@josemanuelmunizherrera9203 жыл бұрын

    • *It's called a Mary Sue.* There's MANY examples of them across media. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Sue

      @NinjaRunningWild@NinjaRunningWild3 жыл бұрын

  • In Ragnarok, I think the whole point is that Hela was basically too strong even for Thor, and that part of his character development was knowing when it would be worth to admit defeat, run away, and live to see another day. I also liked him realising that he would not be able to defeat her with strength or raw power.

    @rosabellaalvarez-calderon4586@rosabellaalvarez-calderon4586 Жыл бұрын

    • Haven't seen it, but in the comics, Hel (Hela) essentially can't be defeated because she is the goddess of death. But Thor gets around her again and again by outwitting her. He never takes her on in battle because the only possible result is his death. He could "kill" her again and again, but as death itself, she is essentially indestructible. Kill her and she just rises again.

      @anonygent@anonygent Жыл бұрын

    • Yeah, Thor Ragnarok was a bad example.

      @Bartimay@Bartimay10 ай бұрын

    • I like Thor: Ragnarok

      @realpainediaz7473@realpainediaz74738 ай бұрын

    • I guess Multiverse of Madness would be a better example then

      @supersani21@supersani218 ай бұрын

    • I agree, I legit was happily surprised that the way to defeat hela was destroying the city

      @sirhellsing@sirhellsing5 ай бұрын

  • Here her man! I couldn't have said it any better. Every point you made it accurate bud. Great video

    @20mmRainFPV@20mmRainFPV Жыл бұрын

  • Short answer: Weak people got the copyrights to them.

    @amadeusasimov1364@amadeusasimov13643 жыл бұрын

    • SJW Feminism Woke

      @Nimbereth@Nimbereth3 жыл бұрын

    • Soon to be unpopular

      @rhyscallinan4402@rhyscallinan44023 жыл бұрын

    • @@Nimbereth why would making a man a big intimidating asshole who eventually gets overcome by a woman but not all at once not feminist, woke and socially just? We sure it’s not just bad writing?

      @carsonnewton6923@carsonnewton69233 жыл бұрын

    • @@carsonnewton6923 its more this. They just want to politicize it.

      @1986jamesa@1986jamesa3 жыл бұрын

    • @@luxinvictus9018 - That’s the worst possible thing to be in entertainment. It’s better for something to be enjoyably terrible, than to just be terribly mediocre.

      @PkmariO64@PkmariO643 жыл бұрын

  • "Exploding with childish displays of emotion whenever things don't go his way" ironically describes the people who cause this problem.

    @kaksspl@kaksspl3 жыл бұрын

    • Hollow knight!

      @savary5050@savary50503 жыл бұрын

    • Same as we're want to escape "boring" reality Ask ourself Why we create fiction world just to recovery our mental health because of "perfect society" we call it, men why we need imagination in the first place i rather life in Grave or place of welcome people non exist.... God is right we really are mistake

      @kasrkin100@kasrkin1003 жыл бұрын

    • @@kasrkin100 - Wow... Congrats! You win the internet grand prize for the most incoherent pile of drivel to ever flow from a keyboard.

      @Mr.Ekshin@Mr.Ekshin3 жыл бұрын

    • Yoooo Hollow Knight fans

      @Ismael-kc3ry@Ismael-kc3ry3 жыл бұрын

    • @@Ismael-kc3ry MY FAMILY

      @savary5050@savary50503 жыл бұрын

  • I said to my siblings years ago, the golden rule of Disney/warner: if there's a battle, being physical or mental, between a man and a woman the woman always going to win, the only way to defeat a woman is with another woman

    @ReijiNakashi@ReijiNakashi8 ай бұрын

  • Man, I really hope you're proud of this intro 'cause it was one of the best I've seen

    @leonardomazza8170@leonardomazza81706 ай бұрын

  • "Dumb, illogical command decisions and punishes people for asking logical questions" so kylo ren is rian Johnson

    @Ob1sdarkside@Ob1sdarkside3 жыл бұрын

    • Did anyone even bother to ask RJ a "logical question" during production of Episode 8? Such as "how the phuck do you even call this a legitimate sequel to Episode VII?!"

      @thefilmwhisperer1105@thefilmwhisperer11053 жыл бұрын

    • 😂😂😂

      @scorptarget@scorptarget3 жыл бұрын

    • I lost a braincell reading what you typed

      @danieldosso2455@danieldosso24553 жыл бұрын

    • @Daniel Dosso Doesn't matter, you still have two more.

      @Mumbamumba@Mumbamumba3 жыл бұрын

    • @@thefilmwhisperer1105 TBF Episode 7 makes no sense either. Why the hell are we still doing rebels vs the empire with death stars, no jedi or republic 30 years after ROTJ.

      @MinuteLeech2@MinuteLeech23 жыл бұрын

  • Fun fact: in a duel between vader and maul, maul had asked "who do you hate so much to be so powerful?" Vader responded, "Myself" Vader is possibly the greatest cinematic villain, especially when paired with his backstory as anakin skywalker.

    @darthclanker6856@darthclanker68563 жыл бұрын

    • its Heath's joker who's the goat of villain, Vader up there with him..

      @whysoserious652@whysoserious6522 жыл бұрын

    • @@whysoserious652 honestly never liked that Dark Knight garbage. Heath’s joker along with it. Vader was orders of magnitude more villain than him.

      @ogrehaslayers605@ogrehaslayers6052 жыл бұрын

    • @@ogrehaslayers605 garbage?? lol arguing with fools aint my thing.

      @whysoserious652@whysoserious6522 жыл бұрын

    • Yes!

      @ggt47@ggt472 жыл бұрын

    • @@whysoserious652 his opinion, i like heath's joker, it's just his opinion, no need to call him a fool

      @DINO_X65@DINO_X652 жыл бұрын

  • I think it can be super interesting for a villain to start off weaker then the hero in the beginning. It can make their rise more terrifying, and can lead to cool moments where the heroes realize they drastically underestimated their potential. Cell from dragon ball is a great example. They could have done something like that with Kylo, but no

    @lucyalicenox5871@lucyalicenox58719 ай бұрын

  • Here's my idea for a movie, and in fact one I'm considering writing into a mock script for my own amusement: Step 1: Set up a strong protagonist group/faction *by their own standards* with a female lead who follows all the bad tropes established in this video. All trailers for the movie shall showcase them and them alone, and their strengths v.s. the following group: Step 2: Introduce a laughably incompetent, arrogant atangonist faction (alien invaders or something) whose leader is a near-senile doddering old man who seems to do nothing but water the plants in his office and feed his cats Step 3: Have either a full hour or half an hour of nothing but the female protagonist kicking their ass while they seem to only put up a fight 'as best they can' Step 4: 'Final scene', at the end of the movie, when the audience probably is thinking, "Oh boy, here comes another easy women's victory capped by a cheesy one-liner" and are almost ready to go home, having condemned the movie to the dustbin of modern Hollywood mediocrity. Step 5: Just as she has snuck into the secret base, or headquarters, or whatever, and seems to have even snuck up on the leader as he's in the middle of his daily plant-watering, and is delivering the one-liner, halfway through, time slows inexplicably and we get a close-up shot of the old man's wrinkled eyes suddenly changing from their vacant look to one of cold steel. In one lightning-fast motion, he draws his pistol, and shoots the female protagonist somewhere not-immediately-lethal that makes her drop her gun (she would be gesturing around the room and so not have been able to shoot back in time). Strolling quickly up to her, he kicks the gun away, and, standing too far away for her to do a scissor kick or something, says only, "Get up." There is the wide grin on his face of a man whose plans are all coming together. Gesturing to her to move, he directs her over to a drop-down projector screen, and on it, for the final five minutes of the movie as she bleeds out, she gets to watch all her allies die as the formerly inept faction drops its disguise and goes absolutely ham on all the protagonists. The final shot of the scene cuts to her dying breath, and as she looks defiantly up at him, she sees that he hasn't even granted her that honor. He already left minutes ago, not even considering her enough of a threat to warrant a guard. The screen goes black, the theme music plays, the credits roll, and the entirety of Twitter has a collective aneurysm. The sequel can have the previously inept faction be beat, but even if that happens, the point would have been made. Whaddya think?

    @abercrombieblovs2042@abercrombieblovs2042 Жыл бұрын

    • That's a definitely good movie idea. You know how there's this Smug Snake trope where they're all so high and mighty, then get a faceful of humble pie? The Protagonist and Twitter fill that role. And considering just how toxic Twitter is, boy is it ever satisfying to see them defied like never before.

      @garrysucks4190@garrysucks4190 Жыл бұрын

    • Call Tarentino.

      @ironheadedDoF@ironheadedDoF Жыл бұрын

    • greatest movie I've ever heard of. Do it.

      @td335@td3356 ай бұрын

  • For me Kylo Ren lost his intimidation and scaryness the moment he took his mask off and we see grumpy Emo kid who cant grow a proper beard.

    @gladiatorscoops@gladiatorscoops3 жыл бұрын

    • And yet, people seem to like him the most out of all sequel characters.

      @jakubrejak1114@jakubrejak11143 жыл бұрын

    • @@jakubrejak1114 Well that's not hard dude......although I think you are forgetting Babu Frik! Everyone loved that stoned alien mechanic!

      @gladiatorscoops@gladiatorscoops3 жыл бұрын

    • @@gladiatorscoops I unironically think he was the best character in ROS.

      @calebland6246@calebland62463 жыл бұрын

    • Ok fair enough but it's the same as asking someone who they would rather bang out of the Golden Girls.

      @gladiatorscoops@gladiatorscoops3 жыл бұрын

    • @@jakubrejak1114 Terrible character. Great acting. He did the best with what he's got. The other actors in the trilogy sequel are really weak highlighting how much better he is.

      @cattysplat@cattysplat3 жыл бұрын

  • Dredd is the last film I can remember where a female antagonist got finished off by a male protagonist.

    @ducko1988@ducko19883 жыл бұрын

    • that slow mo visuals as she falls down is cool

      @nicmagtaan1132@nicmagtaan11323 жыл бұрын

    • My comic has that. The main Villain is a female serial killer.

      @Blackshadow164@Blackshadow1643 жыл бұрын

    • Does Game of Thrones count? Too soon?

      @Greeklings@Greeklings3 жыл бұрын

    • @@Greeklings I like to pretend GoT doesn’t exist

      @ducko1988@ducko19883 жыл бұрын

    • Greeklings game of thrones ended the opposite way, when brienne beat the hound and arya sailed away into the sunrise.

      @jmlkhan5153@jmlkhan51533 жыл бұрын

  • I'm Scottish aswell I wondered why I agree with everything you said in your previous videos now I know it's being brought up in the same country we must have been brought up with same mentality 💪🏻 keep saying it how it is chief cause nobody else has the balls to speak up about this and you are absolutely hitting the nail on the head !!

    @kylemackenzie5617@kylemackenzie5617 Жыл бұрын

  • I learned more from your videos than my postgrad creative writing classes.

    @rukratos@rukratos Жыл бұрын

  • "Movies now days can't have a man beating up a woman" John wick 2: I'm about to do what's called a pro gamer move

    @cavancornelius4925@cavancornelius49253 жыл бұрын

    • Yeah, but she was clearly a mere hench(wo)man with aspirations far above her abilities. If she'd been a main character, then perhaps not even John Wick could have defeated her plot armor.

      @RexFuturi@RexFuturi3 жыл бұрын

    • It was Ruby Rose too. Even better.

      @magicjohnson3121@magicjohnson31213 жыл бұрын

    • @@magicjohnson3121 I was confused for a second there.

      @ArgentiVT@ArgentiVT3 жыл бұрын

    • Well..Ok...???? Is that what he wants to watch? This guy is so angry at the dumbest shit

      @patrickkilduff4355@patrickkilduff43553 жыл бұрын

    • John Wick 1 did it even better. Perkins was shown to be quite an effective and cunning assassin and John still beats her, albeit not without a serious struggle.

      @spookbuster4862@spookbuster48623 жыл бұрын

  • Villain qualities: Must be a white male Hero qualities: Must not be a white male

    @_SimpleJack_@_SimpleJack_3 жыл бұрын

    • How to end racism and discrimination in the _current year;_ be a racist and discriminate against the appropriate skin color and ethnicity (that happens to be your own), and don't forget to rewrite the definitions when someone calls out the hypocrisy.

      @Effect-Without-Cause@Effect-Without-Cause3 жыл бұрын

    • Villain Qualifications: Be Trump Hero Qualifications: Be woman

      @D0NU75@D0NU753 жыл бұрын

    • F

      @DoctorTauri@DoctorTauri3 жыл бұрын

    • @@diomedes7971 He was so good in that one.

      @mattspare8835@mattspare88353 жыл бұрын

    • It's sad that there are some people who use straight white male as an insult unironically. What's even the logic there. "How dare you be attracted to women and have white skin you....monster?"

      @Xehanort10@Xehanort103 жыл бұрын

  • Not unlike myself, I consider you a wonderful raconteur. Easy to listen to. May I say thank you from the bottom of my heart, if I had one. Your pal Al. Peace.

    @alpussycatthesubstantialch4049@alpussycatthesubstantialch4049 Жыл бұрын
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