Reconditioning of Engine Block and Complete Procedure of Boring and Honing Engine Block
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Reconditioning of Engine Block and Complete Procedure of Boring and Honing Engine Block
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Personally as a engine builder I could point out a million things that drive me crazy watching these videos !! But I’m so impressed with the work these guys do with the very limited resources!!! Very entertaining to watch
One man's poverty is another man's entertainment
You know, as a gearhead I doubted the engine would even run until the end, but I think they did a decent job. I wouldn't count on the durability of that block anymore though. They'll have to do that more and more often with each cycle
A man told one time you want it to run or look good.
Totally agreed!
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People in the Middle East and South Asia are some of the most incredible resourceful people in the world. Thanks for sharing!
I work in a official caterpillar dealer, we rebuild engines with all technology and tools to make an perfect service. It's so perfect that caterpillar gives another serial number to the machine as an brand new engine. I'm impressed what these folks can do with so improvised and simple things. It's satisfying to see the pre heat process.
no you dont
@@the_chomper what?
@@felipecel, What kind of answer were you waiting for? these people celebrate mediocrity
Pura gambiarra
yeah and it takes only 50 people to do one block
Retired machinist here. For years i had people tell me you cant reliably weld a casting....only braze. then you watch guys who dont listen, filling holes and welding cracks in a lasting way. the preheating and low oxygen - carbon charcoal environment seem like a GREAT idea. 8:32 This guy knows what works and what doesn't. He'd make $$$ bank fixing old tractors in the American midwest!
Brazing is a good reliable and repeatable repair for cast iron. You being a retired machinist, would you risk a customer's engine block or piece of machinery on a repair like this, that has a 30% failure rate or with brazing that has a1% failure rate? Keep in mind you have to warranty your work. ☆Disclaimer☆ I don't know the exact % of failure, just a educated guess for my question.
There are no legitimate welding shops that would even bother doing a repair including brazing on stuff like this. Most welders can’t gas weld cast iron anyway.
@@Happy357mag brazing in this situation wouldn’t make sense. Brazing has its place, but this ain’t it. If this repair could have been done with brazing, don’t you think these guys would be brazing it???? Think about it..
@@yamahajapan5351 Not true, heavy equipment shops do cast repair all the time, its just done as spray weld. this hand filling is just neat though, in a BBQ! kzhead.info/sun/rcuvact5j6WpmoU/bejne.html
I would love to know what that rods made from all the same ,,,,
All i can see is skilled crafts men working with what they have. At first i was doupting how much this is in spec but with the use of inserts and piston cover as template in improvised free hand machining was incredible to watch come together.
The guy accidentally drilled thru the cylinder wall, that piston will never seat right again.
@@donniev8181didn't you watch him bore it?
When I saw the hand grinding of the cylinders and head I was worried but once you actually sleeved it and decked the head properly I changed my mind. Amazing work and just goes to show how so many things can be repaired that in most places are just replaced.
everything can be fixed and repaired the problem is, is it worth it. for some brands parts alone will be well over the cost of just buying a brand new item. That's the problem.
@@monstereng43 Yes, everything is fixable. The problem is that here in the United States labor is NOT cheap. For someone to do this kind of work they would charge soo much money that you could pretty much pay dealer price for the part you need at that point. Everything here is crazy expensive. Can't even have your entire car reupholstered without paying an arm and a leg. A quality paintjob that will last starts off at 4-5k, basically more than some of this older cars that need a paintjob are actually worth. Additionally that 4-5k you sink into the car is not even an investment at all. Just because its flawlessly painted people are not going to pay you the price of the vehicle plus what you paid to paint it... Not long ago I bought a 99 mitsubishi eclipse GSX with plans to restore, needed interior/exterior work and engine work but I can handle engine work on my own, also had a bit of rust. When I started adding all the numbers It was actually smarter to just buy a mint one from bring a trailer, literally paid a fraction and now I have something that is actually worth something, all mint flagless original paint, no rust, low miles. This was before covid when all these older iconic cars skyrocketed in price so it was actually a solid investment on my end...
В ремонте блока принял участие весь город
в индии много людей - это не проблема
@@ArtemAleksashkin это пакистан
Это Пакистан и они наши враги.
@@user-nb2qr5dx5w тот же хер, только в другой руке
@@ArtemAleksashkin Интересно сколько стоила вся работа? Кто знает напишите
Nice repair, it's a lost art here but this repair was done exactly as my father taught me to do it when I was a kid
Yes that's when a mechanic repaired engines, I was taught that when I was a kid. They would laugh at part changers, they weren't mechanics.
Эти ребята ,знают толк в экономии, на коленке сделают все что угодно, хоть вертолет, хоть самолет, хоть подводную лодку
Ну оно так на самом деле, остаётся только удивляться
Вря тли они сделают вертолет и тому подобная техника, а вот телегу с движком от японцев или немец это да
Они только из чужого хлама могут такой же хлам сделать, пару дней поработает и то хорошо...
Это не экономия друг. Вся эта работа займет больше половины цены этого блока, они ремонтируют их из-за того что нет производства или доставки в их регион.
@@HAMMER13 экономия была бы, если он любой другой ДВС быстро закинул в свой трак и поехал зарабатывать деньги, а тут неделю из хлама делают новый хлам, которы скорее всего день поработает и умрёт опять...и опять простой,опять безполезный ремонт и так по замкнутому кругу...Эти люди просто не знают, что лучше один раз потерять, и потом много получить, будут терять и терять пытаясь из говна и палок что-то слепить... Да и опытный разумный человек просто увидев такой ремонт хоть раз сразу поймёт, что хорошо эти ребята не сделают, а сделают тяп-ляп лишь бы крутилось, и так сойдёт!)
Блок с "идеальной" геометрией получился)
очень понравился момент с подготовкой к расточке цилиндров, да вообще все по технологии и главное с идеальными размерами. показать бы им микрометр
я еще рекомендую посмотреть как они коленвал переваривали:) там вообще песня)))
@@FOMO-hv9jy ))))))), я видел))))👍 Там после болгарки всё в идеале)))
Да похер. Мотор 70-ти летней давности, не наддувный, там допуски +/- пол лаптя. Всё будет работать.
Для их страны и так пойдёт
I love these videos. Look at all the old master craftsmen passing down their skills to these young men and boys. This is precisely what the U.S. industrial workshops looked like until we regulated ourselves into obscurity. Mark my words, they will become titans in industry the way the U.S. used to be. They have the old machinery, the know how, and the regulation free labor that breeds competitive incentive. We were the captains of industry, and now it’s these folks. Congratulations, you’re well on your way to the top. We’re dumb enough to think we can just buy and sell success. Not so.
Titans of industry? I doubt it. Looks like they did a lot of unnecessary work to repair damaged threads.
@@d.c.4285Helicoils maybe?
Я так понял что оказывается для ремонта блока необходимы: дрова, мангал, болгарка, дрель, баклашка с водой и длинная палка для переноски, а и молоток...))))
Не.Ещё пару чурок забыл в комплект.Без них не получится.
Два ведра земли с дороги забыл
Загнутый электрод ( но его тут нет)
Ещё нужно: Расписная тарантайка для перемещения, дед-колдун с шайтан-паяльником, дядя с сигаретой для расколупалки, молодой расколупальщик с большим вращающимся булыжником, и три раза огромный фрезер
без гашиша там ничего не делается
If this were a shop in my country, everyone would meddle into everyones work
If this was a shop in my country, they would be out of business with no customers
Its sure not Jims Automotive machine shop but Im Impressed!!!
На седьмой минуте я думал им надоело всё и они решили мангал из движка сделать😀
После того как этот чудик разхерачил цилиндры он только для мангала и годится)
Тоже так подумал😅
автоваз по сравнению с ними это передовые технологии
с голодухи еще и не то сделаешь
Ну гильзовка меня особенно впечатлила 🤣, всё как надо, на горячую, с натягом 👍🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
😊 Да нормально , башкой прижмется !
Как у паренька еще пальцы целые при такой гильзовке
Всë тютелька в тютельку! Миллионники собирают на коленке! Маск нервно курит в сторонке!
Братья Богдановы увидят, их кондратий хватит 😂.
БОГДАНОВЫМ ДО ВЫСОТ ЭТИХ МАСТЕРОВ ЕЩЕ РАСТИ И РАСТИ@@user-rc9nt7zv4m
This is what I imagine anytime that I leave my engine block with a machine shop.
LMAOOO YESSS😂😂😂 This is what I imagine if I ever needed my 05 wrx engine rebuilt. So ive decided Id just do it myself😭😭😭
Super impressed on what you did with this engine block. Much respect to all the hands that touched this.
Упаси меня провидение попасться на такой восстановленный блок когда-нибудь...
The equipment they use looks like they date back to the British East India Company 😂 But hats off to these talented machinists and mechanics!
Always have much respect for you guys archiving excellent results with basic tools and high effort.
Engine never die in Pakistan, great work!! Love u guys from Bangladesh
95% of success on this type of work is down to heat. Preheating, and more importantly, proper post repair heat control is the key. Mad skills considering the primitive conditions
Agreed. They have it down to a primitive, yet effective science.
Welcome to Cuba, where there's never been anything new since the 50s because nobody wants to economically support the communist regime. Or many other places like it, where there's very few if any new things imported or made domestically through economic sanctions or abject poverty. So they have to make do, and you'll see people doing valve seats and crankshafts by hand and reconditioning old burned up engine blocks like this.
@@andycraig6905 Exactly right. they make do
@@DontCryAboutIt Concrete? at max it was compressed mud
Portions of this video are hard to watch but they have come very close to the same result as a fully equipped machine shop, but only with basic tools.
this was just fucking incredible. Taking a sledgehammer to those cylinder sleeves while his assistant held the plate & had his fingers inches away from being completely destroyed was the chef's kiss...
i really like the fact that people in the streets are doing diy high tech, and saving tons of money. here in europe, if you have to fix an engine would cost as much as the brand new car.
where's the high-tech? I didn't see any... Anyway, the reason it costs so much to fix stuff here in EU is the price of labor. There are companies in EU that remanufacture expensive car parts like engines, gearboxes, starters, alternators or AC compressors, but they do it at volume in a specialized factory, where they can afford the investment in actual high-tech and the skilled workers *and* produce remanufactured parts that meet OEM spec.
They do it the expensive way actually, that's why they are poor but have a lot of work to do. Harvesting California almonds with a machine takes one man and the machine only, the guy all day long doesn't leave his machine seat once. The cost per one almond harvested are close to nothing, but just two get employed - the man on the harvester and the computersystem in the bank taking care of the incoming constant stream of revenue. All others go trailerpark. (And with hardcore capitalism most of the time the bank is in charge, not the self-governing of the people.) (Some of the people no longer employed here may join the army (instead of heading trailerpark) to make shure that the number of Almond farms grow as far as our influence reaches. And there are other jobs, but few.)
I doubt a hi-tech company would refurbish a block with so many flaws ?
Do you know what DIY stands for?
@@oddwad6290 And why even weld stripped threads, just put thread insert in
Wow, that is a fundamental way of repairing engines.
Terima kasih perkongsian video nya sahabat 👍👍👍
"Are you sure you got the block completely cleaned out?" - "Sure, I brushed the mud off it with a handful of straw, then squirted some random oil on it from a Mountain Dew bottle, and the wiped it a few times with a dirty rag." - "Perfect."
"That's how my daddy did it and his truck is still running".
Antes de montar o motor as pessoas são lavadas e assoprando para retirar os resíduos
Just shows you how picky modern engines are. Old fords could run forever on oil changes where the new oil is the dirty oil from a tractor's oil change. And old chevy engines could go 50 miles with no oil, then run with no problems after oil get put in.
They conveniently left out the part where they show it running. It probably exploded on the first start.
They remanufactured a block with a mountain dew and a dirty rag let's see you do it
I will be the first to admit that came out looking a whole lot better than what I thought it would but I would still like to see it run
Awesome to watch !!!
For the tools they had available they made a very good job.
as an Aerospace engineer, I watch this and at first I wasted to laugh, then I thought about it a little bit more. The skillz needed to do this project with the tools that they had access to was incredible. Just the part where they pre heated the block to be able to weld it. That's hard to do with the proper tools.
I was thinking exactly the same!
I'm an Aerospace Machinist and Programmer. I understand they're doing what they need to do to survive, and this is really their only option, but we also both know that this is basically not something that's going to last 100k miles, it's survival mode. That said yeah, most people on Earth couldn't even do it with the proper tools.
@@dannymaiorani519 it'll last until it sells, then it'll be the next owner's problem 🤣🤣
If the block is not preheat the weld wont fused. This is usual applied nonferrous metal and cast metal.
Aerospace engineer?? Impressed?? You got no clue what’s really going on here and how pointless and crappy the results are. If you are who you say you are and impressed with this quality of work- our space program is doomed
I thought I was gone to cry when he took it away on the tuk tuk. It’s an emotional roller coaster 😂
In a throw away world i wonder if anything gets chucked out, the cost difference in getting it done here and getting it done at a dealership must be an eye opener , these guys are so skilled
if you found out what these guys get paid you would cry... the good thing about a society in which nothing gets wasted is the fact that nothing gets wasted... the bad thing is someone has to do this for next to nothing to make it worthwhile... its like paying $200 to get a toaster which would cost $50 to replace fixed... its sad..if nothing else these guys get my utmost respect
Maestros mecánicos!!!! Vista, ingenio y experiencia. Mis más sinceras felicitaciones
Мамкины эксперты уже приговорили блок, работников и работу!
ну для начала, окна все забиты в шлаке.
ясно дело,диванные ремонтеры всем ремонтникам ремонтники😄
@@killr69 Ну веруны в то, что это работать будет, явно таким работникам не отдали бы свой блок)
Simply Amazing!
Mesmerizing precision and high tech.
30:43 the quality manager says "the deck is within 1 mm straight". But we are not responsible for the crankcase flanges.
You can do this when Labor is cheap. Great job for the conditions.
Excellent job ! 👍
Adorable work. Thumbs up guys
Наш гаражный ремонт, курит нервно в сторонке☝
у нас технологии есть
наш гараж для них нанолаборатория))
Saw a similar video where they hand casted cylinder liners too. It all looks very primitive but the first version of any machine in the Industrial Revolution was probably made in a similar way.
So they’re only two hundred and fifty years behind the civilised world.
In some areas perhaps. Pakistan has nuclear ballistic missiles too though. Seems to depend where the capital goes.
love these skill full guys. we need more of this kind of talented people. they re saviour
Great job!
Old white-bearded man is a magician of the cast iron brazing 👍
Very good job , now the block is New , congratulation Brasil
No!
Good process of boring and holing engine block. 👍
This is Pakistan nothing goes to waste.. The skills in Pakistan are the best in the world.. With minimum tools.
Lol. You need to get out more.
I couldn't believe it when I saw the process..! I have a lot to learn. My respects to those workers. thanks for showing your work
its amazing how complicated work can be done with simple skills and much ingenuity. well done.
Hello Tim how are you doing 😊
Die Mittel sind einfach, ja. Aber das know-how, wie man so einen Block repariert, ist da! Das fasziniert mich! Super Arbeit! 👍
I just love to see this is possible, the craftsmanship is amazing
Great job. I wonder what these guys could do with new equipment and a better work area.
They could rise the price😂
No better but faster.
Great work . . . I really liked how you guys can save the block. It's very interesting.
great job !!
amazing skills with old school machines and techniques , love it
perfect service congratulations... I really admire this work here where I live there are no more mechanics just change the parts....you are true and unique.....
Often times with newer cars, replace the part is all we can do
the reason for replacing parts instead of repairing them is not experience, but economics. Those who work with their hands know this problem, because it often happens that it is cheaper for the customer to give a new part than to repair the part. It often happens in practice that a customer comes with a stupid question: why does it cost so much money? I won't pay that much for it...
These guys earn less in a day than you earn in an hour, thats why.
Все показали кроме того как шашлыки жарили пока блок прогревался в углях😂
😂😂😂КПД 150% тогда будет
ежжи мангал из блока хароший☝️🤣
these guys deserve a kick starter fund
That is a lot of work on that block. I hope it runs for many miles. Thank you.
And to think this labor intensive process must be less expensive than buying a new engine block, props to these hard working people.
With many of these parts there is nothing available new anymore!
Awesome 👍😎 video quality as well as workers skills ❤
This puts a new twist to working with what you have!
In my 49 years of building cars and rebuilding engines, I never once use charcoal and lighter fluid.
I weld on cast iron every now and then, it's very important to get the cast iron hot and keep it from cooling too quickly after welding. I usually have a metal bucket of sand and a fire blanket to prevent the part from cooling too quickly and cracking. I understand what they are doing here but I seriously doubt that it would be very strong. I guess if all you want is to buy a little more time on an engine past borrowed time, this is one way to do it.
Coal is the best media for working on steel.
Because you don’t live in Pakistan
ofc because you dont have enough experience in casting metal because when you melt the iron very important to get melted iron not very fast cooling because it will make the end product crack now you understand why they use carcoal?
Learn something new everyday!
Great skills with minimalistic tools, it’s really nice to watch. Thanks
Amazing!🤩🤗
That is incredible......Great job.
Its actually the right way to weld cast iron. U gotta keep it hot while u r welding. He didnt just get old doin nothing. Thats called experience. Hes fully confident abt wat he did m these things do work man. We as modern men we dont knw shit, we depend on machines but no experience of aur own.
And there are some people who only know to spread negativity in these types of videos
NICE TO SEE THESE WELSH PEOPLE STILL HONING THEIR CRAFT IN THE WELSH VALLEYS..OH THE VALLEYS AND THE LONG GREEN GREEN GRAS OF HOME..
Вот это завод, между цехами маршрутки тук-тук ездят. За гильзование лайк.
Переживал за пальцы парня:)
A work of art my friend
Gentlemen I don't believe how many equipment and productive serial machine it was used for made an the same service, the casting process to recovered the area with cavities and corrosion was eliminated with foundry carbon steel in the same proportional stell, did can see after the last machining on end mill , the color of casting!!! Congratulations for your job!!! 🇧🇷🇺🇦🗽
Good job Guys, looks like a Perkins 3.152 diesel from a Massey-Ferguson 35 or similar.
Alistair Powers . Most certainly does appear to be Perkins 3.152.
Definitely looks like a Perkins block 100%, I would tend to think its a AD 3-152 block from a very late 135 or an early 240 because it has four studs to hold the lift pump on, 35's and early 135's had two bolt hole lift pumps. Also far as I can remember a 35 engine has 15 head studs where the 135 has 18 head studs, this repaired block has 18.
Never seen anything like this. He drilled right into those liners 🧐
so? its being sleeved anyways. They do the same thing here with block repairs
It doesn't matter, they replaced the old material with new material.. they have to open the hole out enough to get a propper weld in there without porosity or cold lap
Good job guys keep doing the videos
Absolutely amazing!
The process is amazing to watch but I can't help but wonder how many workplace accident these guys have. I don't know how many blocks these guys make a day and how much they earn but given the right conditions and tools, their level of output would be amazing.
Правильные условия и инструменты никогда не окупятся пока там низкий уровень зарплат
Хочется ещё раз сказать молодцы ребята мастера.
Real job,Real man.
No!
Somebody please show this video to someone from osha they will love it for sure
I can't believe what I've seen here, Respect!
Там на второй минуте работник очки защитные одел!!!! Что за беспредел устроили! Дайте людям спокойно работать без ваших техник безопасности и не стой перед ведром с расплавленным алюминием!!! ("сарказм") А не все нормально, на третьей там уже другой в отверстие дунул через трубочку) Они по уровню блок в землю закапали - я валяюсь... Дед с горелкой топ конечно, не первый раз его вижу
Это дичь ни когда не закончится 🤣
Ну русские конечно всех обосрали, они же всё лучше умеют, научились у других...а хотя о чем это я, мы же ничего не умеем, копируем у немцов, японцев, американцев
Орочьи технологии топ!
И хонинковгание 50/50: брусками и шкуркой)
@@user-pl2iy4cl6v Хонингование ок, смущает то что я нигде не видел ни одного штангециркуля за все видео) ходос авто наверняка уже в шоке)
Что скажет ТРАВНИКОВ? В ремонтах двигателя не шарю, но выглядит красиво
Может оно и будет ходить, но вопрос - нахуя? Столько трудозатрат ради блока от матиза какого то
@@andrei_shut потому что бюджет этого ремонта банка пива и два бутерброда без мяса. А купить рабочий двигатель, даже контрактный, для них это работать всем населением улицы месяц. Они не от хорошей жизни всей этой хуйней занимаются.
@@user-bd2ow5dh5l возможно ты прав. Знать бы их цены на токарные, фрезерные и сварочные работы, тогда б понятно было. Но возможно это восстановление ради видоса было. По типу, когда филипки мопеды сжигают и оставляют на улице, а потом видос о восстановлении делают
@@andrei_shut от Мерседеса старый где то 60-70ых годов не более
@@andrei_shut 10000 тысяч рупий
better than some machine shops i've been to
Health and safety inspectors would go absolutely nuts watching this process, I'm feeling sick at the risks they take!
При запрессовке гильзы . должен быть выступ 0,02мм.при установке ГБЦ будет норм,а так прокладка ГБЦ дунет при первом выезде
ничего страшного, за то опять работа будет))))
Не умничай они так пол жизни хуярят
@@pan4es30 ничего кроме фактов
Да у меня вообще вопрос: сколько они наварили к плоскости, и сколько потом сняли? Как они ловили размеры? Смотрится, будто наварили где-то сантиметр, а потом сняли столько, сколько Будда на душу положил
Я ничерта не понимаю в ремонте но тоже подумал, на тему, допусков/точности и тп. Что наверное таким способом можно ремонтировать какой нить трактор времен Черепанова, но ремонт технологичного современного двигателя, с гарантией работы, вряд ли.
Looking at the conditions they work in this is perfect job. They did everything right with what they have. The negative comments left out from people that do not know to even take it a part. Also, this is worth doing because of the extremly cheep laber. If somthing like this going to be done in USA it would cost like a new car because it is way too expencive to pay the people with knowledge to do it.
Ну почему же? Есть ролики и из США с восстановлением блока цилиндров. Только оборудование выше классом и соответственно трудозатраты меньше. Хотя согласен - детали от распространенных двигателей никто бы не стал восстанавливать.
Судя по комментарию вы тоже слабо представляете процесс капиталки мотора, который и делают, потому что нет средств на новый мотор, ни говоря о машине. А вообще в вашей стране проще купить машину поновее, ибо у вас б/у стоит копейки, причем такое б/у которое у нас считается чуть чуть подержанным.
They are trying their best with what they have. Great job.
Looks like a Perkins block. We used the same type of boring bar, and the same method installing the sleeves. The labor was less expensive as the actual parts in Mexico.
Yes, fi 91,48mm cilinder bore...
Cnc machinist here. I make pneumatic post pounders. That engine will last 20 miles tops before that patch job they did fails. Also when you rebuild an engine the smallest chip or debris can really screw you over. That's why on some engine machine shops they really stress clean everything. I am willing to bet money that an oil passage is clogged with dirt on this engine. I don't see it lasting 17 miles before blowing up. Plus that finish bore on the liner they installed needs to be a 32 micron or better(stupidly smooth) or else it will eat those piston rings till there's nothing left.(I also went to school to be a diesel mechanic) also judging by the water passages in that heavily warped block I am gonna say that block is gonna go into a dumpster. There is a rule you never do big welds on the block because EVERYTHING moves. Small touch up welds are fine but when you heat up the block you warp it. Then the crank bearings, the cam bearings(if it's ran in the block, think v8 engines for example) are no longer in line meaning the holes are not straight. In conclusion i can keep listing more and more issues but that block is a boat anchor because they don't know what they were doing.
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Quite incredible! 👏
Great job, good luck
Контрактник готов!! Геометрия, плоскости, хон на высшем уровне! А посадка гильз просто впечатлила! На автовазе пока так не умеют😁
I have been out of the engine reconditioning game for a long time now but that engine block appears to be a perkins p3 to me either that or it is a copy of one. Very common in older tractors etc have re sleeved quite a few myself and reground the cranks etc.
Wow how complicated work can be done with simple skills 🇷🇺
very impressive
Respect! So many hand work, never thinked that can be possible without factory conditions.
Скоро Украина освоит эти технологии. Станет "аграрной сверхдержавой" 🤣🤣🤣. Пакистан тоже когда-то поверил американцам. Стоит задуматься.
Hello how are you doing 😊
Is it really worth it for all this effort with this many people involved? For the accuracy needed. Why not melt it, and cast a new one?
Labor probably is not a very high cost there, thats why. Also, if someone gets injured, you just hire a new worker.