WHO’S BOSS.. 900HP MK4 TOYOTA SUPRA VS 760HP MK5 GR SUPRA
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Proper driver in the Mk4... Nice to see someone that knows how to drive and not shift early.
waiting for the might supra against gtr r34
He hit the limiter way too much in the 2nd drag race.
What are you watching ? With a proper driver the mk4 would win. He can’t shift and redlined way to much
Isn't necessary to redline the car in every gear
he knows his car
That mk4 is a gem! Dom is the first to proper drive a mk4 manual and not drop miles behind. Great racing chaps!!
Yess I have to agree with you
ManuAl not manuel
who is manuel?
@@diamondplayz9802 🤣🤣🤣 guy from France bro... Changed for you... My bad, 😂😂
Think he's Spanish🥸
Mad respect to the manual mk4💪🏻 the fact that the B58 is unopened stock displacement setup with a hybrid turbo is a crazy testament of how good the paltform is💪🏻😎 great content Mr J
The B58 motor runs on E85. Old 2JZ have spit out 600+ RWHP on race fuel 20+ years ago ...
@@ahoang9069 cool. But it's not 20 years ago, nostalgia is your hubris.
That’s 2020 model or 2019 in Europe try same setup in 2021+ 6 port engine would of been different story even if it has 760hp vs 900hp 6 port would of win . Also this is 140hp difference…
@Bman Doubt it, 2 port tends to perform a bit better.. Fastest MK5 Supras in the world are all 2 port.. If you had the same size turbo on the MK5 it wouldn't even been close...
@@jesseg.1900 No it's a 6 port. The quickest 2 port mk5 is from boostinperformance that ran a 8.111. Mostly the 6 ports are the fastest but there are still 2 ports that are within the fields but not too prominent compared to the 6 ports
Mk IV Supraowner here, props to dom for shifting the v160. Its really hard to hit those shifts, like he did. Props to that! Proud representer to our community
The shifts really arent hard to hit unless you use the wrong transmission fluid, but launches are hard. His were amazing, being able to keep up with a modern computerized car.
Have you ever driven a v160? Maybe mine is a bit worn out and I think I still have the first fill of the trannyfluid but you need some strong arms to switch gears. There are definitely gearboxes, that are easier and faster to shift.
@@jodokehrig8029Yes, for 25 years. And sorry, I dont have strong arms and I have no issues. Only the notorious 1st to 2nd can be a little notchy, but nothing really bad. But I had the wrong fluid in there once and all gears became far more hard to hit. And thats a known issue with that transmission because the wrong fluid makes the seals and rubbers in there swell up which causes these issues. Only few specific fluids will work with it properly. IDK how long you had your Supra, but if its still the first fluid then you either dont give a crap about your car or you didnt have it long enough. But it would explain that you have issues. Change the fluid to something like Royal Purple Syncromax and see it improve massively, if the old fluid wasnt in there for too long. And yes, of course there are smoother transmissions 30 years later, especially those that cant hold 800+ HP. Less noisy ones as well.
Ty bud, I got it for bout one and a half years and I'm already spending shitloads of money into new oem it upgrade parts. I just finished the engine and some interior stuff to make it neat. I think I found my next chapter! :)
@@cartrips9263 The good ole toyota V160 specific fluid is working for me. Unicorn blood
Props to the MK4 driver! No missed shifts 👍👌 Starting in 2:nd aswell 😊
How could you tell he launched in 2nd?
@@TheAnonymous1one pay attention to his left hand when he is droping in go gears 👍
I thought he was shifting 1st - 2nd while spinning @12:43
@@TheAnonymous1one Whatch his hand 😉
@@SweVikingRC His hand seems to go from first to second. I don't think he started in second.
Dom Handled that supra like a boss👌 would of had you on the last race 😃
He never had him, he never had his car. Winning is winning.
@@Allen-gl4gr that's just not true
@@Allen-gl4gr you could win by an inch or a mile
Wud of shud of cud of are irrelevant words for the losing supra 😁😂🤣, only bit of banter MrMarcgj👍, Dom kinda reminds me of the Affi style off the line I,e zero f#cks given and full send, if or rather when it breaks then it shall be fixed and improved if possible. Drive it like ya stole it
@@chongos5018 lol didn’t get the joke no?
Dom is a legend!! Incredible shifting with all that power, the sound of that 2JZ when it comes online is just incredible 😎
2jz is the king
Jamie you have to admit that in that bonus run if he had no problems .... he will win...
100%
@@motion2597 What do you mean "makes sense". One is a full blown auto, the other is a manual and heavier.
@@user-re8nw4ph5y one is also built engine, stroker kit and single big turbo. The Mk5 is just bolts ons with hybrid turbo....
Seems like people just like to go back and forth about dum shit. There’s no way to compare auto vs manual yeah, why bruv keep trying? Cheerleading lol
I had a built 6 speed supra and it was similar to this guys mk4. But when you think about the time and effort put into trying to keep an older car fast with all the problems that occur, it just doesnt make any sense. I would now rather have the uglier mk5 that feels crammed inside, and its b58 doesnt sound as good as the 2jz. Mk5 is way cheaper and keeps up with the best if them. Mk4 will keep you stressed out and worried about someone smashing into it, I was afraid of parking it anywhere were I cannot keep an eye on it. I could never take it to the movies. You need to keep it in your sights, so it's just not worth it anymore. I have had 3 mk4's so I
Mad props to Dom, kickass shifting and awesome car
Alot of people compare the MK4 and MK5 but any real automotive enthusiast Respects both the 2JZ and the B58! There is no denying that the B58 is a powerhouse!
Only an stupid person would say that a B58 is not a powerful or good engine. The main reason Toyota decided to use it, is because it is an insanel good engine.
One of the best videos I’ve watched. Great work 💪🏽
The "TRD" wing just works so well with both the A80 and A90. Looks mint
THE A80 WING IS STOCK WDYM LOL
@@KrisCars I know. smh, I was making a point about that style of wing.
@@GarageSupra shut up
That was a bigger difference than I was expecting on the roll. That 2j sounds dreamy 😍
That Mk4 was a proper adaptive driver. After the first drag race he morphed into a beast 😅. Nice one
Mad respect Dom just shows when driven properly what the supra mkiv can do Amazing 🔥🔥🔥
now THATS how u handle a MK4 supra!
The Jedi Vs Apprentice. Let’s go!
Kinda similar
Love the old skool 2JZ. Looks a right handfull!!. Mk5 took some taming too!!. Two very different era cars. Cracking race :)
Really good shifting dom..killed it!!🤘🏼
Supra won ! 🤣 Respect to Dom for his driving skills. I'm still unsure who won the soundcheck, despite my love to 2jz, the B58 sounds insane
That over rev on the 2j is wild and that for me wins it, but bmw straight six sounds insane! They are truly unique. Jamie needs to forge internals and big turbo that beast and let it sing!! It will sure compete with the 2j!
The 2JZ sounded muted. 😅
Dom TORETTO 😎👊💥😂🔝 literally, master of drag racing
Starting to like the Mk5 more and more... Ace video as always Jamie!
lets just appreciate that mk5 for a second. It just has full bolt ons and a hybrid turbo and able to almost keep up with that build engine mk4. b58 is a beast
So you want everybody to appreciate a BMW😂
Just bc the engine is made by BMW does not mean the car is😭 u gonna call the McLaren F1 a BMW too💀
@@gregpavitt309 yea
@@jc7724The new ”Supra” is literally a Bmw Z4 with a Toyota badge, not only the engine.
So impressed with Don’s driving. Did an amazing job with shifting. Would have loved to see that third drag race if the car would have behaved. Fantastic races. Amazing how much more exciting races are with a manual transmission
Once that mk4 got into 3rd and 4th it was SMOOOOOKING 🔥🔥 that 2JZ is such powerhouse
Dom had no traction in the drags because he didn’t come with “family” 😅😅
Amazing Video man. Love the energy. My guy is driving the hell out of that Manuel transmission. Both are amazing cars and game chagers
The most even rolling starts on the channel. Respect
Love how excited Jamie gets when he beats a manual shifting vehicle 😂😂
With loads more power
@@motaboi5397 exactly
@@motaboi5397 no launch control lol
@@thunderere8687 mk5 didn’t use launch control once u have double the stock figures launchcontrol don’t work reliably
With a 140bhp disadvantage you mean?
As it should really despite 130 bhp difference. MK5 > MK4 (owned both btw )
Careful what you say. The mk4 and 2jz fan boys will come at you. People forget nobody wanted the mk4 in the 90s which is why Toyota stopped making it. 20+ years of 2jz aftermarket support makes a difference.
@@chrisginoc The reason the MKIV sold poorly in the UK was because it was priced higher than previous Supras and the likes of the 300ZX, which meant Supra/JDM fans found it expensive and badge racists didn't want to pay that much for a Japanese car. The performance was never an issue as even stock there wasn't much that could touch it for the price. Ironically they made the MKV cheaper so that didn't happen again when they really didn't need too as badge racism isn't as big of a thing now, IMO the budget spec interior is the MKV's only real flaw (I never really cared that it had a BMW engine just like I never cared that my MKIV and MKIII had Yamaha engines).
I absolutely adore the MkV to death. Been a fan since it's first release, and it's undoubtedly my obtainable dream car. Love the way yours looks and sounds mate, hell of a video. 🔥🔥
Hell yes you were right lol all us mkiv fans were cheering on! This was a great exciting video! Love to see a rematch if he can sort the car out a little bit more
Dom KNOWS how to drive a Supra like a man.
The 2JZ holds all kinds of world records for all imports. The only other import engines close to it are the VR38 and RB27.
And the 2GRFE that not too many people touch
S58 is the king of i6
Next race should be a pretty close mod for mod manual battle. Excited to see the manual races of the MK4 vs MK5
this channel is getting carwow levels!🔥🔥 now include some drone footage & watch your sub count go up Jamie!!
Awesome Race. This MK4 Supra with the driver is really fast and this with a manual gearbox and no modern technology. Your MK5 looks also nice, Jamie. But I would go with the legend (MK4) Best wishes Chris
I'd love to have either car in my driveway. That being said, I'm happy with my '87 MKIII Turbo. It's not as fast, but it's still fun to drive and gets "Is that a Supra?" everywhere I go.
Never underestimate the power of supra
Epic race of old vs new. Thanks for posting the 100-200 times....glad to hear our requests get heard :)
😂
The response of the B58 is crazy. WICKED 😮
Nice. I do want to see both of them at 900hp, 6speed, slick tires, and same turners. Hope we get best results on both of them.
The MK5 will win rather easily.
@@BB-pg5klI agree
awesome video! exactly as i suspected. if the mk4 didn't get the hiccups on that last run he would of had it for sure! 💚
😊ahhh great to see a proper driver drive that legendary car ❤
I'll take the MK4 any day of the week. Respect OG for the love you have for both
What a race! Enjoyed watching that one 😎😎😎
That MK4 sounded like absolute perfection
That was some beautiful racing there boys... wow, looked loads of fun. I love the MK4's they are so freaking fun with that big turbo and noise. Though I really love the styling of the 5, and though I'm a bit of a purist and am sad Toyota didn't go pure blood, I do respect their choice and appreciate the heavily Toyota-tuned engine and gearbox. Economically it just made sense unfortunately, but moddability and performance wise it really pays homage to the love of the MK4.
Imagine what would happen if Jamie put some forged internals in that B58, turned the boost up and then put some semi-slicks on. Would be a different story. Both epic cars though. Old school vs new school! The B58 is truly the German 2J. Love it!
You know that 2j haves more in it?
@@godlyname8544 😂
Bmw fan boi
@@dula1020 how would make it equal
German 2J are Om606 merc diesel engine tho.
The MK4 Supra engine noise is the best. There's no other engine like it
RB26 sounds just as good 🔥
Sounds great but not the best
@@spookyreaper1702 RB26 Sound >>> 2JZ by far. Thanks to ITBs
I love 2j and RB sound but bmw S52 big turbo sounds better!
Nice 2Jz noises 🔥 that second drag race was epic
OLD IS GOLD BABYY😍
Dom knows how to drive a proper MK4 Supra ❤👏
What a machine that mk5. With proper suspension and tires it can become a track weapon
L
Isn’t the stock suspension actually pretty decent on the track already?
You mean the fake Supra BMW
@@gregpavitt309 w
@@gregpavitt309Hush and shut up
Love the energy, quality.
Old is gold❤❤
Both are amazing. Anyone that loves cars, loves both cars.
Much respect to you both. Epic Supra's 👌
Wow, a mature comment, big up my man
Please what is your tire set up ,the front and rear dimensions and if possible the custom rim type you have.
Least he admitted it was the paddle shift and tech. Both outstanding cars. Love this guys energy
Wow that mk4 is rapid. I feel a battle again, but with the Teg. 🙏🏼
No ways the teg would destroy the supra
@@donaldmokgale3123 Be a good race though, once the teg gets its current upgrades finished.
Props to srd, the mk5 sounds amazing and no unnecessary burbles
Am very impress about the launch on the old supra! Look very fast considering the rwd and manual transmission! 😮
This is amazing!!! 💯😈
Now just imagine the MK5 with a built motor as well and making the same power.
You acting like the mk5 didn't have an advantage in the drag. Smh. It's aided with computer plus lighter...
@@user-re8nw4ph5y xD lol So having 30plus years of modding 2jzs and this one fully built 2jz bigger turbo and over 120HP more then the mk5. Not to mention supporting mods the mk4 is not and as for the weight the mk4 is not much more weight then the mk5. maybe 100pounds which I have a feeling that mk4 has some weight taken out. Just saying if the B58 was a built motor and been on the market for has long as the 2jz been out I feel like b58 would eat the 2jz. In this race to to be fair the mk5 should be built have the same power and re run them.
Butt hurt😂
Be careful saying anything about the B58 being a fantastic motor or stating facts about how the 2jz has many years of aftermarket support. Or how mechanics and drivers (I personally know one) who have made their careers the last 25 years from just building 2jz,'s to 1000+ HP. Don't mention that. Just walk away.
@@chrisginoc yeah I personally don’t care if you don’t get what I’m meaning by what I said that’s your own fault. Just say people worship the 2jz but it’s actually outdated and inferior to todays motor. Sorry that’s the fax’s they can only hold about 600-800hp before you have to open the block and build it to the point there’s no original 2jz parts left. The B58 has proven to hold almost 1000 ho before you need to open the block the 2jz can’t sorry but ask any engineers.
Nice driving Dom would have had him on the last drag race if it didnt burst that wastegate vac line... Next time bro.....
2nd drag race was SICK!!! Banger video brother 😎😎✌✌👌👌👍👍
First roll race: that's close!! MK4 gets traction and disappears lol
A MK4 always makes me smile when it comes on point they just fly into another dimension 😂
Let's give dom credit for the perfect launches on the Mk4 👍👍👍
Nice to see the mark 4 driven well. Well done lad 👌👍👊💯
Good head to head, I will say if the mk4 hadn't bogged out on the last drag I do reckon he would've had the mk5
Everyone banging on the new supra but I’d have one👌🏼 they are shaped like a work of art 👍🏼
Barf
@@cartrips9263is what your mom said when she gave birth to you
@@cartrips9263 Jesus dude, you’re replying on every pro MK5 comment just to hate, what are you so mad about? Both are great cars, 20 year old technology just doesn’t hold a candle to newer technology.
@@sphinxore4499 maybe you should read my comments properly then. This is not a Supra or Toyota. The BMW is already showing quality issues that the jza80 never showed. Also it's 30 year old technology. Every mkiv owner wanted a new good Supra and improvement. But what we got was a BMW that's in no way a Supra or Toyota. We weren't even asked. How do you think 911 drivers would like that? Oh right, they almost bankrupted Porsche when they dared to change too much. Yet here you are complaining about the complainers. Get a life.
@@cartrips9263 Surely Toyota would’ve made changes to the car in the near decade the MK4 was produced right? So it’d make the most sense for the technology to be closer to 20 years old rather than 30, nice try on the correction. Telling me to "get a life" just shows your anger in this situation. Also, terrible analogy with the Porsche comment (on par with a 2JZ fanboy, Porsche and Toyota are on different PLANETS). BMW is a better brand for developing cars for motorsport, so Toyota only benefited from the relationship. You’re acting like the BMW is riddled with issues, it’s not. The car is reliable, sporty and makes power on tap. Be mad all you want, you should really thank the Germans for making the new Supra even possible.
May I ask what is the spoiler you used on the mk5 supra, it look sick on it and I like it.
Awesome video keep up the good work
So a properly fully built 2JZ bore out to 3.4 liter making 900hp lost to a stock internal 760hp B58 😂. Imagined if the MKV was fully built. MKV > MKIV 😅
There are 2jz making over 1200hp, this guy my guess doesn't like laggy turbo and preferred less power more response. And it's a manual vs automatic so no point talking.
I can damn guarantee you that bmw will not be as reliable as that 2jz. Especially since dart is making billet block 2jz engines. Bmw pretty much f**ked there.
The mk4 driver is legend
OG Supra all day everyday for me. I had one 15 years ago. Man I miss that car.
What yr is the b58 supra
I call for a rematch! That MK4 could definitely win those drags! Anyways, I wanna see a Jamie mk5 vs Affi R34 😎
2 rematch and still lose lol
I think Dom has had some tips from Affi about the zero f#cks given launch technique. Gotta luv it when these owners really do push these beautiful machines, i guess its why they are built but not all are willing to take the risk of snapping something or hearing a big bang lol. Big up both Supra's and which would you take if you could choose🤔,
💯
@@inzykhan415 yeah defo be entertaining watching 2 guys who are willing push the cars like life depended on it. I think Affi would have Dom though lol
I am definitely a hard core mark4 supra lover but too be fair Dom is the only supra driver that I have seen from what I've seen that can even drive their car.... For instance Affi in his r34 is a clutch and launch master because he knows his car👍😎 I would like too be see some one who can do the same for the supra family like Ryan woons for instance with a 3.4 litre stroked and stock 6 speed gear box years ago, launches like a sling shot and runs a 8.99 quarter mile💙👍😎🙏 Love channel and keep up the epic work guys,keep doing what your doing, love the content 👍👍👍👍
_2JZ baby_ 🔥🔥🔥 _awesome vid Jamie_ 👏🏼👏🏼
It's would have to be that 2JZ for me on my drive. But that moden tech for getting shit off the line then 🤔. Put them both on the same 900 bhp, then in (my personal opinion) mk5 with its moden tech would have eaten all the races. But as always, Jamie, you never fail to deliver what the people want to see with makes you a top content creator to me. You should get an award for that too as well as for subs. Stay blessed brother 👊🏽👊🏽
2JZ power 😎
That turbo noise after the gear shif❤
My mkiv does that random bucking thing too. I think it's overboost causing the fpr to close the return too much and hence stalling the fuel pumps from essentially deadheading the fuel. Let me know if I'm wrong... I haven't solved my issue yet.
Now imagine what that mk4 could do with a modern automatic transmission
No
You hear mans shifts he is hittin them
@@joshtaylor7583 ngl this shifts were on point. Could be faster with auto or sequential.
@@godlyname8544 and the fun goes straight to the crapper going fast isn’t what it’s all about
@@joshtaylor7583 That is true. I prefer manual. Both of my cars are manuals.
Wonder if my boy affy can bang the supra A80 to the quarter mile
Jamie changes mood... hes to funny when wining 😅😅
What about trans of the gr supra ? Any upgrades? Stock can handle so much ?
Thanks Jamie for feeding my crave for this race. Toyota and 2JZ forever! That turbo on the Mk4 comes on nice and not loggy. Big up the Mk5, Toyota and BMW did great,very reliable.
Toyota didn't do anything. BMW done most of the work lol
@Jaz Mark if you own a house 🏠 was it you that construct it? Toyota tuned the engine and suspensions to make that car great as it is. Stock to Stock the MK5 B58 always faster than other B58 with same hp
Toyota ... a80 was a fully built 3.4 stroker with single turbo , hardly any Toyota parts
@@johnmcgerty9320 agree! The MK5 was just bolts on with hybrid turbo haha.
@johnmcgerty9320 actually it's A90 and it's a Toyota uno coulda bawl blood
Imagine that Mk4 with a ZF or a Sequential 😮
Its not that easy, theres a couple out there; but tuning a transmission from 0 is incredibly hard and you can check that they are very faulty and the launch control doesn't work well. If you want a hard launch it will have to be one of those fully built automatic 4 speeds or a sequential that can handle extreme power so when they launch it, they can rev it up to 5k and get a good launch.
Imagine that MKV fully built out with the same tires as well.😂 #GapCity
@@kobedabest Imagine the 2J fully built. That gay bmw wouldnt stand a chance. Foh D riders
@@kobedabestfully built 2j's see 1400whp+
@@raymondgonzales8780 Yeah, all the drag races Ive seen with these transmissions completely change the character of that car. Normally if you shift to 3rd gear, its over for your opponent, but these newer transmissions are just boring and not geared for good acceleration.
That 2J top end hit different
Old is gold ❤😂
Dom sends it like affi 😂
As much as I love the new supra I think Toyota ruined a true icon by getting bmw involved and basically giving us a z4 with a different shell.. 😥
Still better than Toyota not bringing it out, is my opinion. They are building nice cars these days
It’s a massively capable car but it will always be seen by some as not a ‘proper’ Supra. It’s the step brother in the family of icons is the best way I can describe it .
@@Buck3366 I agree 👍🏽
I'm sorry the new supra is a way better car than the older supra. The build quality is so much nicer because of the bimmer input. The old car looks and sounds like a shit box honda compared to the mk5. The only reason people even care or know about the mk4 is because of fast and furious period, and that's sad.
@@carguy... Mate the Mk4 is a Japanese and Worldwide motoring icon. It’s been the cover car for everything from one of the best selling video games ever,Gran Turismo,to one of the biggest selling film franchises in the history of motion cinema Fast and Furious. That’s before you take into account it’s motoring history in racing,drifting and tuning. It’s one of THE most recognisable cars in the world. And you think a BMW with a B58 and a Supra badge slapped onthe back can beat that? Yes time and progress has moved on but you can’t ever erase the fact the Mk4 is every bit the car Toyota wanted the new one to be… and failed! Consider that a lesson in history. Class dismissed.
Ok nicee! BMW MK5 VS SUPRA MK4 Nicee
He was going to get you on that last run until his car went weird😂 I would be proud in fact, in dreamland to own either of them, they’re both killer
What rear wing is on the mk5 supra?