How Good Is Chat GPT?
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Chat GPT VS Jocko's principles.
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echo makes a great point about the tolerance. tolerance is HUGE ! different ppl have different tolerance, and also the same person can have a different tolerance compared to other periods in his life, or maybe even compared to the last week. Jocko should give more credit to Echo about that.
"You're pushing it to a 5.5 right now" LOL ... Gawd I love Echo HAHA! Love these interactions!
EC makes a great point. Where does it stop? Wanna wake up, just wake up? Wanna work out, just work out? Wanna run a marathon, just run the marathon? Wanna run an ultra, just run the ultra? Wanna run 5 ultras back to back, just do it? Everyone IS different. We should always be pushing ourselves to our own max, but what's max for me is not what's max for Jocko or Goggins, or a 90 year old grandma or someone with chronic fatigue syndrome. For some people, just getting out of bed is like running a marathon....for others it's simply impossible. EC is absolutely right about tolerances.
It stops at the point where you don't have any control.
Mmm... Ok, I think I get it more now, the problem appears to lie on details, Jordan Peterson is used to articulate in a more detailed manner, but I would argue that' what's really useful from jocko is his direct approach, so yeah giving gtp more than a 1 more than a 1 is fair here, but a 5 really?
That book "Discipline equals freedom" changed my life. I changed my diet according to that book, and just like reading it sometimes to get some clarity.
A good example for the point Echo is trying to make is that humans are neurodivergent, whether we like it or not. Someone with ADHD won't be able to write three chapters with a screaming baby behind them on an airplane. Someone who is suffering from depression will not be able to get up in the morning so easily. And Jocko's ironic rigidity on the subject might make such people-who strive to be like him, for good reason-feel like failures when they are unsuccessful in reaching that standard. So, while the simplicity is great, not everybody can "just do it," and it would be helpful to acknowledge that, sometimes, trying one's best is also good. 5 points.
I’d tend to disagree, while I get it, I’ve had really gnarly ADHD most of my life, and while sitting down and focusing up in distracting environments is exceedingly difficult, it’s still possible, going and doing a hard workout has never been difficult for me, sitting down and doing coursework on the other hand, has. Nobody is saying people can all achieve a highly disciplined lifestyle with the same amount of ease. Some people are going to have to work harder, but it’s still possible for all in some form, and so if you truly want to live like someone like Jocko, it may be more difficult for you to achieve that. But you can still hold yourself to that standard.
If you look into David Goggins, he’s a great example of over simplifying to get through his mental struggles. Just work harder.
The last discussion is great. The voice to get up in the morning is barely whispering to me and 20 reasons why not are as loud as the water is wet.
Witnessing such an eager and constructive discussion is humanising. :D Thank you for releasing relevant recordings of your podcast!
00:13 🤖 Introduction: Eko and Jocko discuss ChatGPT and its applications, with Eko sharing his experiences using it. 0:28 🧠 ChatGPT as Research Assistant: Eko praises ChatGPT for its ability to assist in research, particularly in scriptwriting tasks. 3:00 📜 ChatGPT's Analysis of Jocko's Flaws: ChatGPT identifies criticisms of Jocko, including an "aggressive and militaristic approach," but Jocko clarifies the misinterpretation and defends his leadership style. 6:10 🌐 Lack of Nuance Critique: Critics argue Jocko's emphasis on personal responsibility overlooks systemic factors; Jocko counters, citing his discussions on leadership nuance. 9:31 🔄 Simplistic Solutions Critique: Detractors claim Jocko oversimplifies complex issues; Jocko acknowledges simplicity but emphasizes the importance of taking ownership and developing discipline. 17:36 🤷 Complexity vs. Simplicity Debate: Eko and Jocko discuss the nuances of individual tolerance levels and the potential pitfalls of using differences as a crutch.
Jockos never been in the cesspools like Reddit. A good component of this experiment would have been to ask ChatGPT follow up prompts like, "create counter arguments to each of these criticisms"
Chat GPT 4 is pretty good at helping you refine ideas. I’ve used it to develop a business and asked it to identify blind spots. You can further expand and ask advice about any issues it identifies. And you can ask it to help you write a business plan. I like it a lot
The other issue is that military personnel are also put in high-stress situations regularly or more than normal, MOS dependent of course. For instance, I was at Walmart getting my tire changed and it ended up taking most of the day because they'd had scheduling issues, etc. There was a family next to me that was LOOSING THEIR MINDS. Because I had been taught the value of patience in the Infantry, I realized that the job would eventually be done, and becoming emotional would only stress myself and others involved. Many people, especially today don't implement those teachings or life skills into their lives thus these issues occur, regularly.
To be honest, I do not think Jocko is the best thing to rate chatGPT on. It is still kind of niche content and the likelihood of chatGPT actually knowing the books is basically zero. So it takes what it knows, you wrote those books with the strong military sounding titles and that is probably most of what its knowledge.
To me, this was probably the most hilarious interaction between EC and JW 😂 I laughed out loud so many times. I think what EC is saying is that Jocko's approach is correct but Jocko can't / doesn't want to accept the fact that people are built differently. We should all strive to follow his path, I agree, but not everyone will get to the finish line at the same time or by sacrificing the same things, or start from the same starting point. Either way, I admire him greatly, and I admire EC that he can voice his opinion about what he believes might be one of JW's shortcomings. EC is not a yes man, no matter how respectful he is, and the bond between these two individuals is almost palpable.
Kudos to Echo Charles for pushing back with a 5 instead of a 1. Jocko is a little black-and-white about certain categories - ironically, right after a discussion about nuance.
I think Echo won the point about Jocko going out of bounds on reductiveness sometimes. We would not have different words for sound and noise, if noise was "no factor".
chat gpt is great for some stuff. I’ve had to preface the actual questions I ask gpt with a bit of context and it does a okay job. Like ‘could you help me come up with some interview questions for a ministry that cooks food for people in need?’ Then it just dumped out a lot of stuff. I took what I needed and omitted the rest. Surprisingly streamlined what I was trying to do.
I love the honesty and humble dissection of chat gpt. The bots are so perfect they make me feel very inadequate
I really like the other side of the equation Echo Charles brings.
People have different tolerance levels for pain.Jocko has a high tolerance level for pain. Warrior
From what I understand, the machine learning aspect of the LLM tries to mathematically encapsulate Language. So part of it depends on how much data has it been able to train on, for one thing.
Joko, you mentioned getting more involved in politics/running for president if things got really bad. John Lovell pointed out that if these three things are so then the United States of America is already gone 1. No boarder 2. Politicians who completely disregard the constitution 3. Elections that nobody trusts to be fair. What's your response?
They didn't prompt ChatGPT right. They about criticisms of Jocko and when it reported the criticisms of others, they graded ChatGPT as if those criticisms were ChatGPT's own views. They didn't ask for its own independent assessment. Not that people should be asking for its subjective opinions. It's much better at information retrieval and synthesis.
If a style is what you want from a response try giving it some of that persons material first then ask for the statement. Jocko for example could try copy pasting some pages from his book then ask GPT to copy the style.
Great video.
my philosophy is "lead from the back till the front goes wrong". not literally on a battlefield, but i mean to have an "everyone is equally involved" attitude and winning the argument of what action should be take by explaining why my idea is correct and another is wrong, or being disproven by an equally well explained argument from another member of the team. then in certain situations, when you sense that morale is low and no one is stepping up, step up to the front. delegate. encourage. discuss. be firm and swift once decisions have been thought about for a suitable amount of time.
Jocko definitely sticks to his guns. The argument they have on getting out of bed is interesting. I understand both points and I am honestly struggling to choose a side. At least now I know I am a human. Still not sure about Jocko. 🤔
We need echo Charles to write a book for himself and for life with jocko !!
You know echo would use chst gbt
For my own research, it's invaluable. There's no way I could've had my questions answered by Google, and it's much faster than a day at the library.
Real talk 🗣️
GPT does a decent job when you give it a good context for what it will generate, then it can expand your original idea while following your parameters. But, you have to give very defined parameters and at the end, ask it if it understands. As a part time game designer, having GPT expand my ideas, it does a great job given enough structure on what to do. If you give it a one sentence query, and has it generate content you want to be unique, it does quite a poor job. Additionally, if you ask GPT for something that would/could have an opinion in it and would not be a fact, such as the video and it generating an essay about Jocko. Great video!
Plenty of those criticisms of jocko arent invented by chatgp after reading jockos books It is chatgpt paraphrasing and resuming human criticisms of jocko inputed into chatgpt
Whoa hit a nerve here Echo: A low tolerance for an idea that straying from a pursuit of equanimity isn't necessarily a vulnerability. I'm having a difficult time trying to imagine THIS Jacko raising a kid with some disability like autism or sensory issues. I expect he'll feel differently when he gets old and everything starts to bother him more.
I agree with Echo a bit. In my opinion, military training makes you a unique person with extraordinary skill. Even with basic things; for a veteran it may be normal to eat once a day, use bathroom 1-2 day and be fine after being awake for 24h straight. For most civilians these are not a norm. Different starting points.
That’s the best way I’ve heard it explained Jocko! A Caricature! The channels that use the motivational speaker Jim Rohn’s “voice”.. it’s not Jim and it’s not close to what he ever said. It’s ChatGPT getting it from tapes from the 70s 80s and 90s put on the internet.
Morning good morning
lol when the alarm goes off...get up, i like that one, keep it simple 😁
XD funny to finally see Jocko get defensive for once. But it actually kinda proves Jocko's point that even he could be caught up in little things but he makes the hard choice of stopping himself most of the time. Echo was really trying to not exagerrate his criticism and only gave it a 5/10. But chatGPT was in general doing a pretty bad job, so Jocko probably didn't expect Echo to find that possible little point of agreement, which made him not account for the possibility that his ego could get "flanked". Anyway, thanks a lot for the podcasts, i learned so much about war, the millitary and workplace conflicts due to your work!
I wouldn’t mind an entire podcast on the tolerance subject.
ChatGPT was spot on. It said "critics say" because it hasn't read the book. It's trained on the internet. As for ignoring problems and moving forward, it is certainly within the capability of everyone. But it takes different amount of adjustments for each person to reach such a point. Additionally, new traits may uncover other flaws they need to work on. If they had always kept themselves mentally clean, it wouldn't be so hard. It's like losing weight. It takes practice and work to reach this level. It SHOULD be simple, and should be SEEN as simple, but in reality it isn't.
I think that I am a little disappointed with Jocko here. In his responses, he didn't take the time to listen to EC. Not saying EC is right, but he is addressing a common counter that is now unaddressed. It didn't feel like Jocko was responding to what Echo was saying, but a strawman he had assumed, and then he didn't fully let EC speak his points when he disagreed. This wasn't a good reflection of the values espoused in most of Jocko work. Regardless of the correctness of one side or the other, Jocko, as the leader over EC, should have heard him out and empathized before he showed the alternatives. That is what Jocko taught me, at least.
Chat gpt The Evolution of Black Militancy: A Journey from John Brown to Post-WW2 and Vietnam Title: John Brown: The Father of the Black Militant Movement and the Catalyst for Civil War Introduction: The Black Militant Movement, a significant chapter in American history, traces its roots to the fiery actions of abolitionist John Brown. His audacious raid on Harpers Ferry in 1859 not only marked a turning point in the struggle against slavery but also set the stage for the impending Civil War. In this article, we will explore the emergence of the Black Militant Movement and delve into the pivotal role played by John Brown in igniting the flames of rebellion. The Early Days of John Brown: Born in 1800, John Brown was a fervent abolitionist driven by a deep-seated belief in the righteousness of ending slavery. His early encounters with the horrors of slavery, combined with a strong religious conviction, shaped his resolve to take radical action. Brown believed that only through forceful means could the institution of slavery be dismantled, a sentiment that would later resonate within the Black Militant Movement. Harpers Ferry Raid: The defining moment of Brown's crusade occurred on the night of October 16, 1859, when he led a small group of followers in an audacious raid on the federal arsenal at Harpers Ferry, Virginia. Brown aimed to seize weapons, ignite a slave rebellion, and strike a blow against the oppressive system of slavery. Despite initial success, the raid ultimately failed, resulting in Brown's capture and subsequent trial. Legacy and Impact: While the immediate consequences of the Harpers Ferry raid were defeat and Brown's execution, its long-term impact cannot be overstated. Brown's unyielding commitment to the cause of abolition served as a powerful catalyst, inspiring others to take up arms against the institution of slavery. The seeds of the Black Militant Movement were sown, with Brown's legacy living on as a symbol of resistance and defiance. The Civil War Unleashed: Brown's raid on Harpers Ferry was a harbinger of the larger conflict that would engulf the nation in the coming years. The tension between the North and the South reached a boiling point, and the nation found itself plunged into the Civil War in 1861. The fervor for change that Brown had instigated contributed to the broader social upheaval that eventually led to the emancipation of slaves and the end of the institution he so vehemently opposed. Conclusion: John Brown's raid on Harpers Ferry stands as a pivotal moment in American history, shaping the trajectory of the Black Militant Movement and playing a crucial role in triggering the Civil War. While Brown's methods may be debated, his unwavering commitment to the abolitionist cause left an indelible mark on the nation, solidifying his place as the father of the Black Militant Movement. John Brown's Legacy: John Brown's fervent fight against slavery laid the groundwork for a legacy that resonated far beyond his time. As the Civil War unfolded, Brown's ideas inspired the Black Militant Movement, planting seeds that would sprout decades later. However, it was not until the mid-20th century that the movement gained momentum, fueled by the experiences of black soldiers returning from World War II and Vietnam. World War II and General Patton's 3rd Army: The triumphant return of General Patton's 3rd Army, notably the Black Panther troops, after World War II marked a paradox in American history. While these soldiers had fought valiantly for freedom abroad, they returned to a segregated and discriminatory homeland. The disillusionment and frustration experienced by these veterans became a catalyst for a new wave of black militancy, demanding equality and justice on the home front. Vietnam War and the African American Troops: Similar sentiments arose among African American troops returning from Vietnam. Despite serving their country with valor, they returned to a society fraught with racial tensions. The disparity between the ideals for which they fought and the harsh realities of racial injustice ignited a renewed sense of activism within the black community. Lingering Shadow of Lynching: While legal measures attempted to dismantle the practice of lynching, its sinister specter persisted long after laws were enacted. The brutal reality was that racial violence continued to haunt the black community, manifesting in various forms. It wasn't until the black community began to arm itself, embracing the principles of the Second Amendment, that the tide began to turn. The Second Amendment and Self-Defense: The greatest testament to the power of the Second Amendment in the face of racial violence emerged when the black community took up arms for self-defense. Armed resistance became a crucial tool in protecting individuals and communities against racially motivated attacks. This shift marked a turning point, demonstrating the potency of the Second Amendment as a means to secure and safeguard civil rights. Conclusion: From John Brown's fervor against slavery to the post-World War II and Vietnam eras, the Black Militant Movement evolved as a response to systemic racism. The struggle against racial violence, exemplified by the persistence of lynching, found its resolution in the arming of the black community. The Second Amendment, often championed for individual freedoms, became a powerful instrument for collective empowerment and the defense of civil rights. This narrative showcases the enduring legacy of those who fought against oppression, proving that the fight for justice often intertwines with the unwavering commitment to the right to bear arms.
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Chat GPT has been an indispensable tool for me in my specific discipline, but it's only a tool. It's not a replacement for intuition and experience (yet). It's like choosing the right tool for the job. If you choose the wrong tools to accomplish your goals it can waste precious time, but if used effectively it can be a massive time saver and even facilitate learning. Although it's worth mentioning that Chat GPT is still in its infancy. Like other forms of AI it's only going to get better with time, eventually take over the universe, and we'll end up in some shit like the Terminator.
Ok….Someone is yelling in your ear……the alarm clock goes off…..----maybe the important aspect of what you do is …. Never ask yourself how you FEEL about it….. as Nike said just do it Stand there and take the screaming in your ear…..when the alarm goes off start getting up…. People take those 2 seconds to ask themselves… do I feel like it? can I really do this? Good Soldiers don’t let their mind join the party with its 2 cents ….. they already have the ultimate answer to every question….yes sir! And start movin…..
Past, present, and future
me: "i hope i did OK on that exam" how my exam is being graded:
Version 3.5 or 4?
Weird! I asked GPT Do you Know Jocko Willink when I first tested it…
Oh lol Echo xD. Jocko, you're not a cyborg. You're simply someone with a lot of discipline, perhaps trained that way but certainly not born that way. One thing to point out is that strength and discipline doesn't necessarily have to be external or physical. You can look totally not buff and have a lot of internal strength. Usually you see it in the eyes, and like you've said before, in the action and not the words.
Vincent van Gogh: “The great artist is the simplifier.” ~Tom: It takes more words to lie than to tell the truth!
1:51 hahahhaa yes awesome, that's like saying my father's dad hahah yes.
I agree with Jocko, sorry Echo
12:00 Some things are that simple
Ask Goggins to score that last one..
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Jocko’s philosophy boiled down: Just get it done.
I " Chat" myself. ; )
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The point of chat GPT is too get people away from critically thinking for themselves. Search for your own truth🙏
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what the fuck? you didn't exchange good evenings with echo now i'll be on edge for the rest of the video not knowing how the evening went
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Resist the donut Resist the pillow You Know What To Do As someone with excessive auditory processing issues and no navy seal training, i am so not happy at being so invalidated by these blanket statements.
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You were helping them cover up running a terrorism campaign against me based on lies. You owe me 20 years of your life.
Posting 0331??? That’s early
Hm. Let me think on that for a second. Good? No. Is that good? I don't know. The unknown is filled with opportunity, and danger.
Navy Seals are missing...talk about that in your next podcast.
Aint. No jon rambo.🎉.
For once I have to say, that I am a little disappointed with Jocko. At the same time, I am glad, that Echo pretty much expressed my own view. I firmly believe, that people are different, and that there is little point in claiming that everyone can act in the same way, handle hardships and difficulties equally well. It surprised me, that Jocko didn't acknowledge that, especially since he seems to be quite good at interpersonal things otherwise. I for example, am rather sensitive, and a creative free spirit. I can still learn a lot from the Jocko Podcast in many ways. However, I quickly realized, that there in no point in trying to be like Jocko myself. That would simply set me up for failure. And that is totally OK. Jocko and I can both be valuable members of society, but we need a different environment and purpose to function and thrive.
You can 1000x this tool it is way more powerful than your examples and there are ways to get far better granular answers.
You've never had Sam Harris on the podcast yet.
I over simplify like crazy and my wife hates it lol
I love echo attempting to explain to Jocko that he is not a real human.....but Jocko does not get it. Haha
There has to be a trade off between our dependency on technology and the deterioration of our own brains… what say y’all?
Jocko couldn’t take the last point 😂
the world is a year behind gpt. Chat GPT dropped in Nov 2022. get your kids involved and expand on what this tool can do. there is a rhythm to it and once you find the groove you can almost go on automatic pilot gentlemen. i mean this quite literally and can explain but will only do that privately.
ps - the reason why i say get your kids involved now is because AI is inevitable and they should know how to navigate that. there is a zero percent chance that AI will not be a major part of these kids lives. not including ww3 type shit of course. The RAPID growth and expansion of gpt capabilities is stunning. at minimum make everyone aware of it. IMO only of course gentlemen. good luck.
so in other words chatgbt got it all wrong 🥴🤷🏿♀️
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I gave it up for the last X months, it is good for data automation, yet naive as hell.
The “they” means KZheadrs. You can be forgiven for not caring enough to find them. 😂
Chat GET SOME…🚪🦍
When you post a piece about Chat GP and the discussion becomes about yourself... you might be an egomaniac.
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“Meatheads Try ChatGPT” 😂
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Love that echo can disagree. Jacko don’t be a d bag.
ChatGPT is a glorified calculator. Nothing more nothing less. It is entirely dependable on your inputs. If the language you use is biased or partial, it will continue to build off of that. Like entering a formula into your calculator, the calculator will not all of a sudden start adding new factors and variables. There is no creative capacity nor does the tool have any insensitive. It predicts and then answers according to a model. Don't get me wrong, the value of this tech is incalculable with unlimited use cases. But it isn't remotely the job replacing starwars/irobot/skynet that people make it out to be. That being said, jocko, if I were to buy your entire digital foot print and collected all your writen and spoken material and fed it into these language models to create a dedicated Jocko AI, you'd be far more terrified. And that's exactly what future warfare will look like. Making digital AI clones of individuals that you can prompt to predict and generate the top 50 most like courses of action, so you can predict their every move.
Chat GPT is literally designed to be an advanced auto-complete. The difference is that instead of only looking at a few letters, it can look back a few pages and instead of predicting one or two words, it can spit out several paragraphs. You can demonstrate this by literally writing a popular sentence and then removing the second half of it. This is why instead of writing a question, you can get better results by writing the start of a possible answer.
Are you famillier with AGI? Thats the new thing they are working on and it will be smarter than humans
Your comment is just 1's and 0's to the computer 🎉
I'm a little shocked that Jocko would think the best use of their time interacting with chat gpt would include such a self centered concern. It's stringing together literally anything you force it to commit to, it's the ultimate yes man. Kudos for trying to find a critical voice to drive growth, but honestly, who cares what an LLM spits out when it comes to opinions on celebrities? Just ask it to do generate tedious boilerplate for emotionless drudgery. Or for writing corporate speak.
The formula has so many variables that human cannot understand it, is the difference
Echo is wrong.
to me, AI is just a glorified if statement.
I bet Chat gpt probably believes in critical race theory. Also, is it going to look at the Silicon Valley's consensus of reality? That's not good for the rest of us.