[HANNIBAL] Hannibal calls Chilton's Office (Social Engineering)
2018 ж. 18 Мау.
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"I'll dance at your wedding" -from S3E10
Anthony Hopkins' Version: • Hannibal Lecter - Soci...
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As soon as Hannibal knew Will had a wife and kid, he was like they have to go XD
😂😂 right!
He’s gotta have will all to himself 😂
He was like: that bitch cheating on me?! Oh hell nah
Whole scene was almost word for word with the red dragon book.
They bought the rights to it. You can guess which book they didn't get the rights to.
Also the movie.
Well, in the book they didn't have a "bromance." They weren't friends, in a way, he hated Will because Will was the one who caught him.
@@molasorrosalom4846 so unfortunate how you still call this relationship bromance. 😞
@@molasorrosalom4846 Also in the books he NEVER killed women, he was a misandrist, he hated males too much. The only woman that he ever hurt was the nurse when he bites her cheek because she was rude to him and to the staff. He was never bisexual neither he had any feelings for Will. He was in love with Clarice since the Silence of the Lambs and end up with her at the end of Hannibal.
If this guy can build the Death Star, then he can rewire a phone.
🤣🤣🤣 I see what you did there.
bootleg franchise dood
@@arcadealchemist Ok, doooooooooood!
context? I don't get it
🤣🤣🤣 good one
God that was eerie....it's been years since this show came out, but I still feel like Mads deserves more of a popular response here in North America for his talent
He really doesn’t seem to get the recognition he deserves here.
@@frenne_dilley grow up
Meh. Brian Cox did this scene better in Manhunter.
@@kingomar69 ehh nah
@@xxxkamoxxx Yup. MM is ridiculously overrated.
if he told me to "be a darling" i'd do pretty much anything lmao, i just love that voice of his
Seems a teensy bit sexist to me, but his voice is undeniably attractive. I'm sure I'd fall for it, too.
Think about this: Hannibal could have done this the whole time but he didnt. Just when Will showed up willingly and he smelled someone else on Will he acted like a possesive alpha male who fucks up everyone who dares to look at his property the wrong way. This is level of jelousy is... Over 9000!!!
He didn’t need to act, he already is an alpha male.
@@MrHarrystank I used to think most of the show - especially some of the more abstract dialogue - was a bit absurd as well, until I read a very good Reddit post which explained it to me
@@gautamkhare2100 whats the title of the reddit post?
@@ExpensiveBruh Alpha males require an entourage. No, Dr. Lecter isn't an Alpha Male, he's an Apex predator.
In this season, he couldn't bear anyone else to even touching Will. Cordell is a good example.
I saw the manhunter version of this and it's almost perfect line for line.
Brian Cox is colder, more evil, best Lektor of all.
@@gordonmcinnes8328 naaah Mad's takes the crown imo
@@beargerhardt Nope
@@kingomar69 well i think everyone did a great job
@@kingomar69 you're wrong.
This is my personal favourite performance of this scene... as an audience, knowing who he is, this feels so eerie but at the same time he is so charming I don't doubt for a second she would refuse his request.
The scene from Manhunter is the best version
@@yourbro8906 Well I did say _my_ personal favourite. Also Brian Cox is not nearly as charismatic as Mads Mikkelsen in this spesific scene, ask any lady 🤣 I thought he sounded even rude.
I think Mikkelsen did a great job in this scene as always, like a lot of his scenes, there's a sinister undertone to his line deliveries, but a certain charm and grace, which makes it a little more believable that he would be trusted. The problem is the music, which took away from the subtlety that the other versions of this scene had. The show in general often uses excessive music to spell out the drama to the audience, which is a common problem with modern TV shows in my opinion, but it really stands out in a scene we've seen in the films.
Damm both Anthony Hopkins and Mad Mikkelsen made this same scene perfectly respectively. It feels eerily charming and creepy. I dunno what feeling I should have towards the character of Hannibal Lecter.
You should see Brian Cox version of this scene in Manhunter. To me he did the best he sounded friendly, charming, but in a hurry. He didn’t say that weird “I’ll dance at your wedding” line which made it very realistic like if I was on the other end I would’ve gave him the number
@@mysteryjunkie9808 it's a line that's not as relevant now as it was when the book was written itz an expression of incredible gratitude based on a particular thing in pop culture of the period the book was written
Brian Cox you fool!
As charming and charismatic as he is, he's still a human flesh eating monster. In a normal human being, there should be no confusion as to the way you should feel about him.
This scene was played three times three different ways and always great.
This is how I imagine Grindelwald’s cell in Nurmengard.
One should, always, keep one's address secret, just in case.
Didn't help garret Jacob Hobbes
The whole scene was almost word for word for the Manhunter movie!
That's because both were based on the novel Red Dragon by Thomas Harris.
Funny how he says "Federal Express" in the modern Hannibal, but in the film Red Dragon, taking place in the 80's, Lector says "FedEx" in an apparent anachronism.
Seeing three versions of this from 3 amazing actors is pretty cool.
This isn't based from the book anymore, this is just Will and Hannibal's story.
Hannibal the Smooth Criminal!
Go watch Brian Cox Manhunter Version I think he was a lot smoother. Imagine a guy with this thick Danish Accent saying “My names Bob Greer” I think I’d get suspicious from that
Comparing these scenes, Manhunter (1986), where, by the way, Brian Cox plays an, in my humble opinion incredible Hannibal Lecter, and the Silence of the Lambs (1991, coincidentally (?:)), wonderful year for music) is awesome. Such different, yet beautifully haunting portrayals, imaginations, and performances, of Hannibal and this scene in particular. I recommend everyone to take the 10-15 minutes to compare these... Incredible insights ranging from psychology and psychopathy, to acting and writing, bringing the books and characters to life, and interpreting what they are like and how it should be portrayed, and chasing that dragon of imagination, how your vision may or may not translate into reality through your actions/acting:) I love this, and that there are multiple, AMAZING versions of this character and this scene specifically (shoutout to the late and gorgeous Gaspard Ulliel
Hannibal basically doesn't want anything in Will's life that's not *him* ☻
i really like how they switched narratives to red dragon, shame clarice won't be part of the franchise but at the same time that's not a bad thing i just hope they do go for season 4
Thank you
My favorite part of the whole scene is when the orderly Denise politely says "I'll mace you in the face." She clearly has gotten to know Hannibal in the whole time he's been there so she knows to be polite when speaking to him. Shes the female Barney from the movies.
Again as an avid fan of this iconic character, the books/film adaptations & this series...it's easy to see what each actor brings to the table in their portrayal of Lektor/Lecter...great in their own ways however the more I analyse, re-watch & delve deep, my personal opinion tilts towards slightly in favour of Brian Cox specially in the way this scene was filmed...having had the opportunity to interact with few psychiatrists & mental health counselors & it's that eerie characterisation in Manhunter which they caution us to be wary of... Michael Mann gave us a brilliant piece on screen just after the book...👍🏻
Classy
No security cameras?
i love how all the incarnations of lecter involved in red dragon (its kinda crazy how red dragons been shown 3 times, hannibal twice, silence once and hannibal rising 1.5 times (due to it being hinted at alot in the hannibal series))
for some reason the original in film version (manhunter) was more chilling. no music background, and that hannibal was more flamboyant and believable with his voice
I love Hannibal in this series because his calmness makes him look like he's above everything an everyone, almost Godlike, the perfect psychopath. And since the series is called Hannibal I find that fitting even if the books characterize him differently.
I have to disagree respectfully. I like both, and I think Mads captures the intelligent psychopath Hannibal is laid out to be in the series.
Agree totally. Search for 'Lektor makes a phone call Manhunter' on KZhead and you'll get it folks.
Yeah I understand why the Brian Cox Manhunter version got the number so easily. He was sounded charming,courteous but in a hurry. Hopkins version was creepy and slow I would’ve hung up on him. This guys was kind of creepy but too but I might have still given him the number
I overall really like Mikkelsen, but I actually think this is one of his less convincing scenes. Both Anthony Hopkins and Brian Cox sounded more genial and persuasive over the phone to the secretary, Mikkelsen sounds more cold, plus his heavy Danish accent makes him obviously not "Bob Greer". It feels like he's just kind of doing a rote autopilot run-through of the same scene we've already seen twice before by Cox and Hopkins, and IMO their versions were both better.
Agreed, I could not get Antony Hopkins out of my head with this one.
For me I still felt he was charming in the old world European way. The accent makes it more exotic and attractive so for me it still was creepy how charming he was anyaay
The entire conversation felt rushed and detached. There was no hesitation or concern from the secretary about giving out private information. It didn't seem like it was bad acting so much as no direction and no understanding of character motivation. Even the voice of the secretary didn't match the profile Hannibal would have quickly developed of a young traditionalist woman who would have been flustered and enthusiastic about the topic of her wedding. In this case, Hopkin's version captures the scene much better.
sequorroxx I think that’s just the style of the show. Most phone convos are muffled in the show and not the main focus. The focus is on Hannibal and him expertly mining for wills info
@@KoiYakultGreenTea Yeah, I liked this scene, but it might have been more convincing if he had faked an American accent for this call.
Yeah, even back then they would monitor phone calls and would stop this from the start.
Legally he's entitled to private calls to his lawyer. They dial it in for him and he has no access to the buttons, just the headset. I guess no one suspected he'd disrupt the phone to get through to the operator.
its a call to his lawyer, they legally can't monitor it
They could not montior it but it wouldn’t have been able to go to the operator it would’ve directed back to the Asylum
@@mysteryjunkie9808 that's not as easy to do as you'd think with that kind of phone and tech it's amaz8ng how much of the old phrase g techniques still work in places like hospitals and prisons. its out of date to a modern audience though.
@@rahhmusic19 What is up with these laws protecting scum like him? This is the reason why Gotham city is constantly under attack because the criminals are protected by the law, and of course they get sent to a prison with the worse security in the world. Even prisons in Somalia have better security, I'm sure.
I blame the cell design for a lot of this and the shows obsession with trying to be clever and use strange symbolic visuals. For me the menace is taking completely out of this scene compared to Cox, Hopkins and the book of course. Even though Mads is probably the closest looking act to Lecter in how I imagine him.
There's three versions of this scene. This one with Mads Mikkelsen, the one from Red Dragon with Anthony Hopkins, and the one from Manhunter with Brian Cox as Lecter. I think my personal favourite is Brian Cox's version, there's just something about it that creeps me out more than the others
Anyone know the phone trick he did?
The trick suggest that if you short the microphone the old pulse phone would give you a dialtone and after e few seconds it would auto connect to the operator. Just like pulsing 2 or 3x on the receiverhook would a very long time ago. I am not aware that this "trick" would ever work but with tone-dialing you could do things like that and much much more like free long distance calling, its called Phreaking and was a neat way of hacking phone systems toget free services.
Phone phreaking explained by 8bit guy: m.kzhead.info/sun/Z9iBqb6cq4qLf68/bejne.html
Does anyone know what he did with the phone? What was that thing he put into it and how did it redirect the call?
Brian Cox was awesome in the scene in "Manhunter"
So polite just like the movie.
I know this scene is initially in Manhunter, but can someone remind me how he actually gets the chewing gum and foil?
Is this Baltimore State or somewhere else.
If you haven't watched the show, I believe this is actually the verger's estate
@@justinbergeron5997 it's not lol
justin bergeron lol what
@@justinbergeron5997 If you haven't watched the show, I believe you have an excuse to be this wrong.
@@savnetsinn_original lol
I'm Hannibal Lecter so just in case you're thinking of saving face You ain't gonna have no face to save by the time I'm through with this place So Drake. Eminem
What about the Security cameras?
Any camera?
😘
Operators are still in use today?
what social engineering?
Guys, is Hannibal series mentions about Hannibal's life before he was caught by Will the FBİ agent from Red Dragon? ( ive heard that Will exists in series but how?) Browsed for info and it did nothing but confuse me even more. (Not watched it yet. But i did Red Dragon, Silence of the Lambs, Hannibal and Hannibal Rising)
Yes it does, first two seasons and half of season 3 is Hannibal in freedom, this scene is from season 3
Just a dom apla getting jealous over his precious baby
Le chiffre
🙂👍
Barney looking fine...
Why does he get such a nice cell?
I love mads as Hannibal, but he doesn't seem persuasively charming here, more sinister. Anthony Hopkins' version seemed very believable that he could talk her into going against her better judgement. (And his performance in The Father also demonstrated his ability to shift from charming old man to vicious emotional manipulator in an instant)
Yeah, I think Mads really blended in the mask with the person, almost like hes never really faking anything. It flows well, but he comes across like a supernatural entity with nothing behind the eyes. Hopkins had a decent job of seeming charming. I think for this scene, Cox takes the cake, he actually comes across as completely genuine, and you believe you want to go along with what he says
@@arcanewarrior863 My problem with both the Mikkelsen and Cox scenes is that the secretary immediately does along with his request. It makes it seem like they didn't even need to bother with the ruse lol. In Silence of the Lambs, she actually hesitates and it's clear she's going against her better judgement. Hopkins' Hannibal even tells her that he doesn't want to get the regular secretary in trouble, so the social engineering and manipulation is very clear to the audience, as well as showing how Hannibal's knowledge of psychology makes him very dangerous.
@@rooty True, but I feel like Cox does is so effortlessly it feels like it fits more. Looking at some real life social engineering, the key isn't standing out, it's making your phrases as monotone and casual as possible so the listener suspects nothing. On the phone to Cox, you get you'd easily be manipulated by him, even if doubt of the receptionist isn't shown. While Hopkins still sounds kinda creepy
Someone please tell me what his doing to the phone I’m so confused
its a pheaking trick, the hospital by law cannot monitor calls to an attorney, so it's a completely secure from interuption/overhearing line. they dial it for him and only give him the handset, now given its an old style manual phone and a rotary (in the industrial US style) that means a couple of things. its physical connections and you can interupt the ring and dial out so that you get bounced to the switchboard operator from there they can dial you out to ANYWHERE in the world and the number dialed would disappear.into the ether (not tracable) whether it's the internal hospital switchboard the deals with calls to departments, Dr's etc etc or the phone system switchboard for the state its not clear but given the 'I don't have the use of my hands' and there was no button press for an operator it can be assumed its external. basically like a hotel with dial 9 then room number for internal and press 1 for the front desk if you want to go out international you dial 1 then give the number you need to the switch board
@@jediknight129 thanks for explaining
The exact same scene, as the script of the movie manhunter
Except instead of the secretary name being Martha it’s Linda and instead of not working nights she doesn’t work weekends. Don’t know why they change that but okay.
I love this actor as Hannibal but I still think Anthony Hopkins did this seem better
Brian Cox es mejor que a echo está ecena
The first lector got a raw deal being in that tiny barred up cell this guy has a whole ass dining set wtf
A woman taking care of Dr. Lecter? Wasn't this guy supposed to be quite a dangerous serial killer, and they put an overweight middle-aged woman to take care of him. What could go wrong with that reasoning?
Much as I like Mads as an actor, anything good in this scene is down to the lines from the brilliant book Red Dragon (no movie has lived up to it, but Manhunter is by far the best; Red Dragon the movie is terrible and Norton was even worse than I thought when he was cast; absolute disaster), with clumsy updating of details (talking of files instead of Rolodex). As for the rest, the scene is a million times better in Manhunter, from the set-up and guards' arrival, to the actual phone call. Brian Cox played it perfectly and his reactions throughout are superbly acted.
Watch manhunter for a better version
0:34 what did he lay there
Stick of gum and the wrapper
Chilton or Clinton?
Chilton
Brian Cox did that way better
He tried. But he couldn't QUITE pull off the breezy charm of Brian Cox.
Wow this is the worst version of this scene by a long shot.
this music is *absurd.* do the producers actually believe audiences can no longer stand just dialog no more??? we aren't idiots. we really aren't. don't believe the hype.
Why the Manhunter version of this scene is superior no creepy music just straight up watching Hannibal charm his way to getting his address
So this show sucks? I haven't seen it so I don't know.
@@cashewnuttel9054 No, it's absolutely brilliant
@@cashewnuttel9054 i loved it, thought it was great. a lot of others seem to have lots of good things to say as well. of course, it all depends on who you are and what you like.
He didnt chew the gum. LAME
hopkins dialogue is way better. Mads accent is just too strong that it messes up the dialogue and doesnt flow well.
Ridiculous scene because...............surely his cell would have been under video surveillence.
Hopkins did it so much better
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