Loading the 1860 Army Revolver
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Loading the Pietta 1860 Army revolver. This is the load I'm shooting with this gun in my "Pietta Colt 1860 Army" video. Click link below to see a target shooting video featuring this pistol:
• Pietta Colt 1860 Army
Load data:
27.5gr of 3F Goex black powder
2 Circle Fly Nitro Card wads soaked with olive oil
Hornady 0.457" balls
Remington #11 pistol caps (not in video)
Guy asking the questions was very polite and you can tell he was genuinely interested.
Nah that's just wealthy people talk
@@victorceniceros8308 People of any class can talk that way
I like that kind of interaction. In our range, is very common that if you show interested, you will have your questions answered and very probably you' ll be invited to shoot a couple of times .
It made the video in my opinion....
@@victorceniceros8308 in the U.S. guns are an everyman hobby. From the poorest, to the wealthiest. Its a massive cultural difference from the UK.
When I was an over the road truck driver, I kept one loaded with 5 Chambers in my sleeper. The company had a "no firearms" policy. And sometimes had to go into Chicago, New York, New Jersey etc. Under Federal law it is not a "firearm," it considered to be a "relic or curio" Thank God I never needed it for self defense, but it is definitely better than carrying a sharp stick.
Makes me wanna see a raypunk gothic sci-fi film where the hero carries an old revolver to outwit the laws and regulations.
Some of these states consider even pellet guns firearms that require an FID card so actually, you may have still been busted under state law. Doubt that would have been enough to make it to a prosecutor’s desk but something to keep in mind.
Actually Curios and Relics are still firearms, just ones that were produced at least 50 years before the current date (which is why you still have to go through a licensed dealer or possess a license yourself in order to purchase C&R guns). You are correct about cap and ball guns technically not being firearms though, but in a lot of states they will be counted as a weapon if used in a crime.
Ahhh my man knows his laws
@@ethan9582 An “antique firearm” in the USA is defined as any firearm that is made on or before December 31, 1898. Such guns, even if they fire modern ammunition, are not legally firearms and can be purchased without permit, background check and mailed to your door unless regulated by the state you reside in. Any muzzleloading gun, regardless of bore size and which uses black powder or substitute, is likewise classified as “not a firearm” under the law.
soldier: I'm reloaded. general: War was ended.
Officer: Am I joke to you?
SecondRaygun19 General : don’t ask me sonny .
enemy is reloading as well sooo...
Paper cartridges for percussion revolvers: Ight who called?
Kkkkk This coment was the best one
So this is why Red Dead Redemption isn't set in the 1860s during the true wild west. We should be glad.
They had metalic cartridges in 1854 with the Lefaucheaux and a few other revovlers. The Civil War was for the most part the end of the percussion cap era with many metallic cartridges popping up. The Cattleman revovler is a 1873 Colt Single Action Army which is the beginning revolver in both RDRs. They could set it in the 1870s - 1880s which is the height of the Wild West and featured both single action and double actions
Alot of people also used paper cartridges that came pre made which load just like metallic cartridges
This gun's predecessor is in Red Dead 2 Online. It's the 1851 Navy. But in the game, they use paper cartridges, which was the most common way to load them in the Wild West. Loading them with loose powder is more of a modern day thing.
@@TexasHellcat1836 The gun shown is the Army the Navy has a hexangular barrel shape but otherwise your all correct.
Nahh, these types of guns would be bad ass. The slower reloads would allow for more tactical combat and weapon switches. Switching to a separate firearm/sidearm would be for more than just fun. Plus in reality it doesn't take nearly this long.
This makes you appreciate how precious each shot was during the civil war. No 30 round mag dumps or 2 second tactical reloads. You better make sure you count each shot you take and if you miss, that might be the end of your life.
LOL, you think its like a video game, you could see your enemy just as well as you can today, which means unless he is 50 metres or closer, you aint seeing piss. You fired for effect thats why volley fire was utilised, and rapid fire in which forward would fire first, then second line would fire after in a loose formation.
@@SMGJohn It would be amazing if any of what you said actually countered his argument. He said, “You had to make every shot count even more than today, because you couldn’t just rapid fire ion the individual level.” Do you seriously think that militaries would rely on suppressive fire techniques and tactics the way they do now with single fire weaponry. Seriously?
@@michaelbrooks3220 God you seem to suffer bouts of severe reality distortions if you someone twisted my comment into whatever narcissistic crap you are typing. God help you
@@michaelbrooks3220 Yeah i didn't understand either what he replied, kind of retarded, idk.
They had paper cartridges.
Fact: rather than reloading it civil war soldiers would often bring 2 or 3 of these revolvers on the battlefield or they would just bring extra cylinders
Right you are! Even more interesting, there are reports of some Confederate cavalrymen actually strapping up to 8 cap and ball revolvers to their chest and bandoliers when riding into battle during the civil war! Edit: Two more things that people who laugh and snicker at these old revolvers often forget is that 1) Most soldiers were issued pre-made paper cartridges that drastically sped up the reloading process. 2) These are the days that regular field infantry were often only armed with a single-shot muzzleloader and a bayonet. Imagine you roll up to battle being able to fire even just 6 shots in rapid succession before charging, sabre first at them on horseback. It was a tactical advantage and a big psychological tool!
I learn somethin today
the extra cylinder thing is not very practical, how you gonna tap out the wedge mid battle? even for the remington it probably wasn't that widespread
This is so wrong... soldiers didn’t carry extra cylinders. Pistols were personal defense weapons at close range and not intended to be used in protracted combat. They were also issued with cartridges and not loose ball and powder. Don’t spread misinformation.
Spencer C do you have any idea how heavy a Colt Army is? Nobody was strapping 8 pistols to their chest....
What this demonstrates is the incredible advantages guns received once cartridges become available. With the 1860 you pretty much loaded it, and once empty, you pulled another or your knife.
I've read some books about that era and you'd be surprised how fast some of these guys could reload. They wouldn't measure out their powder like this guy is, they've done it so many times they could just pour the powder straight in and get it close enough, then ram the rod, then drop the next bullet and ram the rod again. Point being, an experienced shooter could fully reload his weapon at a surprisingly rapid pace.
@@mr.doctorcaptain1124 No matter how rapidly they could do it, reloading a musket for just one shot would still take half a minute, & in case of revolvers like this with 6 chambers, definitely at least 2 minutes. No matter how fast a gunman can reload back then, they simply cannot afford to use them as personal weapons in a war.
@@mr.doctorcaptain1124 they would just swap out the cylinders with new ones. It would take 20 seconds for an average guy, 10 for experienced.
@@mr.doctorcaptain1124 It is a process. I’m working on it myself. But the loading will and can be repetition. It’s the cap jams that will hang you. You fire and it doesn’t go off? In self defense case, someone would rush you so quick after they hear that dry click or little snap and the ball doesn’t eject.
@@dan2178 Once your colt is lubed and broken in? Yea you can knock the pin out, take the barrel off, remove cylinder and replace. Then put barrel on and slap the pin back in that holds the barrel to the chambers and you’re good. You can do it fairly fast with little practice.
"I counted six shots" "I counted two guns"
Arthur Mota I like how u edited out the n word , used in django unchained
you forgot the n word
@@joviedo69 I know,I did it on purpose.
@@devilbuster20xx37 it would have been better with the n word tho
@@joviedo69 Yeah,but there is always that one guy that says:"YoU sAiD tHe N-wOrD,yOu CaN't Do ThAt"
come on man, the war gonna end 😂
salah el shehry hahahahaha yeahhh
Use your hands
🤣🤣🤣🤣 seems this one was is for peace signal
I can't believe it people really was doing here, while war goes🤣🤣🤣🤣
@Shree Krish tum hoti toh war nai pyar hojaata
damn, I was expecting to see you shoot that gun after 5 minutes reloading.
Yes it is really disappointing waiting a very lengthy 5 minutes and not seeing shooting
Wait he isn't shooting that bad girl? Omg I lost 3 years of my life, what a waste...
Ooooooohyyhhnaaaghhh
Maybe you need to learn to read next time kiddo
I'd probably shoot myself at least after trying to reload that beautiful little time vampire.
His nails were short when he started reloading
Lol
Hahahahahahahahahaga
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Hahaha or hes a transgender..Never know anymore
Lol
Just FYI for those thinking this was the only way this firearm was loaded...they actually used conical shot that came in paper cartridges w blackpowder included. They came in a wooden box. Ball shot was not that prevelant. This guy took quite awhile to load this firearm. With practice it can be done in under 2 minutes. Plus conical cartridges delivered more fps vs ball. Replica pistols now that use blackpowder arent configured for conical shot unless you modify the loading chamber.
Paper cartridges are a lot faster but loading it old school just because you can.
The wad also prevents a chain fire. If you don't use a wad, or cover the front of the cylinder with grease or Crisco after loading, all chambers can fire at the same time. It happened to me.
How awfull. Did you die?
@@Mr_Fancypants lol
How does the wad stop a chain fire? The wad was behind powder? Wouldn't it have to be on the barrel side of ball to prevent a chain fire?
@@greedyfrog505 No, the wad goes on top of the powder, just next to the ball. Applying grease to the front of the cylinder, or Crisco is not a bad idea. Forcing the lead ball into the cylinder WILL NOT prevent chain firing.
Love how he's just politely talking to the guy that's asking questions and wanting to know about the gun
that is what people do in a civilized society
Arthur Morgan : I swear to god if I'm in the war Ima use hand instead
Someone hasn't seen the reload for the Colt Dragoon and LeMat clearly
You get that question *every* video “Hey is that black powder?”
They're not being curious-- they're trying to determine if they should step back if he answers with "No, I'm reloading this with the smokeless powder I just picked up from the store..."
Legend has it he’s still reloading.
yes, fuk you man
😂😂😂
Eduardo
Someone get him some speed cola.
ken smith lol good one
ken smith or some nail clippers
Lol
ken smith HA! 🤣
Ahah he is playing bo4 Rip speed cola
So Thats why Josey Wales had 4 pistols. Great video the old pistols are very interesting and rare
Glad I watched this, I've been shooting with the ball on the powder without a patch and always using a powder measure when loading the charge👍
Don't shoot please i'm reloading
Said by the cowboys while they were on a fight. LMAO
😂😂😂
Its better I use a catapult
Sagairaj Sunder 😂😂
Eagle Eye ok but when you're done give me a chance to reload as well. 😂
By the time your done the enemy will die of old age
Hahahah I thought the same... like a bow would be faster.
Back in the day men would carry at least 2 of these and have spare cylinders.
ahahahahahah
@@oldschoolcop8568 Same reason why people would carry as many single shot pistols that they could scrounge into a combat situation.
Before you reload this weapon ! U killed 7 people ( if u don’t miss a shot )
The pre-rolled paper cartridges issued to Union troops were something like a 200 gr conical bullet on top of 28 gr of FFFg, and roughly equivalent to the .45 ACP ballistically.
The guy asking about the gun even said thank you at the end. Little gesture like that is much appreciated.
That's why Josey Wales used to carry 4 of these.
@@VeganerHippie That's how the wild west was, partner.
yes
Edward from AC 4
I thought Jose Wales had Walkers?
4.5 pounds for the empty gun...thats like 20 pounds for only guns to carry...jeeeez :D
War start you start reloading war ends you finaly reload 😂😂😂
Rip english.
Illiterate as fuck
The way you pronounce it cracks me up lmfao
😆😆😂😆😆😆😆😆
I think I had a stroke
Everyone in the comments has gotten it backwards: The Civil War would have gone on for only one year if they had modern guns. Same shots, same casualties, same result--- but would have gotten through the mess much quicker.
I had one of those larger black powder revolvers. The gun master told me another way to load, Field load by an amount to the cup of the palm, once all balls chambered, put crisco around the balls which prevents other cylinders from going off.
And after all that u didnt shoot
Eagle Eye afraid for reloading again =))
Eagle Eye good thing I read this comment half way through the video
Eagle Eye there’s a link in the description of him shooting the gun.
@John Smith Hey! This is the coment section of a KZhead video! This is no place for logical or rational statements.
Huy Đỗ sad so sad
Arthur would not like that gun..
Bing Boy No he would not. I liked the red dead 2 reference
@@chef9524 Ew you're one of those people
TypicEightt it’s red dead redemption 2 not 3
@@dylanmcgoff1751 😏👍
Dylan Mcgoff Sorry I got large thumbs and mistyped.
I realize it's been a while since you posted this, but I was doing research for a story I'm working on and this video really eloquently showed the process and realities of reloading one of these guns. Thanks so much. :) Hope you and yours are safe and healthy.
For a more accurate practical take on it, find a video where paper cartridges and a capper are used.
I like how he fills 3 chambers with powder, loses track, and takes a good long look down the cylinders/barrel, trying to remember what he's done...
Gunslinger 1: “Dammit, out of ammo! Smith, reload this for me real quick!” Gunslinger 2: 0:00 - 4:56 “Ok, all done-...” Gunslinger 1: 💀
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Very convenient when loaded and yet can be a pain to reload while in the battlefield during the civil war.
Okami Jubei Saavy troopers carried spare loaded cylinders like pistol magazines on their person. This only required taking the gun apart and replacing cylinders.
Switching to your cavalry sword is always faster than reloading
@@Bananercatnot when there is a surprise sharpshooter.
I had one just like that antique it myself. I used screeched felt wads from an old cowboy hat on top of the load and the ball. 27 grains of 3F black powder.
I had the Army and the Navy Version when I was a kid absolutely loved them. Time to get another ! We'd just load them up so the ball cleared the frame. You cannot blow up a quality made version of these using the correct powder.
With the time it takes to load these pistols it seems like it makes you appreciate each shot more. Not like modern firearms where you can empty a mag in just a few seconds.
Cody Strickland empty a mag and reload in a matter of seconds*
I think my granpa said "always count your bullet when shoot"
DaisYxPunKx69 Unless you were born around that time, I don't think anyone will know the struggle. But that was a good joke.
Yup, i was thinking about the exact same thing, maybe thats where the term “wasting bullets” came from
+Sarim Shah same.самый первый револьвер,дикого запада.
Oh, this dude making questions make the video more interesting.
O H O K A Y
Ikr
Kayel Eva O H O H O H
emanuel is my real life fucking name bro
Mas interesante.fue el hablar las manos el tatuaje el revolver la polvora.los bolines.jaja.esperate componente.tengo que cargar.
Really liked the guy asking questions. Thanks for the video
And the enemy had a long nap waiting the opponent's gun to be loaded.😂😂
Imagine getting ready for the fight at noon and just taking your time loading this weapon knowing it might be your last time loading the pistol
Many soldier dead while they loading their weapon...
Halid Haris and?
Death by natural causes
You dumb, they hide while reloading.
Halid Haris Call of duty cheating
Do can someone tell me that army used this weapon!?
Legends say he is still Reloading !
>war in the background >frantic reloading Random guy: ay how much is da ammo for that
😂😂🤣👍
One time, I timed myself to see how fast it took to load one of these. Took me about 4:30. It's amazing just how time consuming it is.
Even in the 1880s and 1890 and well into the 20th century out west most people were still packing these bad boys because many people already had them and they were military surplus costing only a few dollars and the spare parts were pennies compared to the cartridge guns. If I remember correctly during the 1870s 80s and 90s the colt single action army cost around 25-30 dollars and for the time that was at or a above a months wages for the average man or women at the time. The ammunition was much cheaper for the cap and balls as while as a box of fifty .45 colt cartridges set you back some where around a $1.50 - $2.50 per box and when resupply happened as fast as the slowest ox drawn cart as not all towns were anywhere near a rail road and getting an order took several months you bet people were stingy with the ammo.
Imagine missing all ur shots and start reloading again 😆😆😆🤣🤣
And u already dead man..
Then the situation'd be, "that was the moment he knew he's f***d Up"...
Put the gun at ground ... And run ... Hahahahha
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Old revolver problems est 1850-1870
Imagine reloading like this in a combat situation under stress back in the day 😐
It’s great the evolution of guns!
Мне интересно было бы увидеть станки на которых изготавливались эти пистолеты. Автору благодарность. Очень подробно и ясно без слов.
I’m glad that one guy was there to ask all the questions that I was asking in my head haha
I love the way older revolvers look
When you start reloading at 0800 then finish at 1900
That took forever. Crazy to think about using this in actual combat
Now this is something I need to get into....'seems like a lot fun.
It slows you down, which is good sometimes. Keeps me from shooting off too much ammo!
Christopher Sumpter
I thought it was so cool how the guy was asking you questions about it like all the questions we wanted to ask he already did and it was in your video
"The enemy are attacking!" "Hang on...cover me....I need to reload".....
3 minutes later: "Still loading, don't shoot please....!"
Actually, you can have preloaded extra cylinders, to change out when empty.
I love shooting these revolvers. What i do is make pre-rolled paper cartridges ,just like was done by the u.s. army in the 1860's. I roll enough to fill maybe 8 cylinders worth, then when i shoot and empty a cylinder, i then swap cylinders to continue shooting.
Liked the conversation. Also so many works to be done!
Don't get me wrong, I like my modern guns and all, but it's hard to go wrong with an old school piece like this. Sure, not anywhere near as efficient with reloading, but definitely still fun to shoot. (Edited because I used a fancy word wrong.)
What a pain in the ass reloading those.
Toni Kemppainen Some people really enjoy the process
Toni Kemppainen the muskets and flintlocks too.
Part of the charm
@@sheepherd2210 matchlocks
That’s why people carried like 2 to 4 of em
I use bore butter over the ball instead of a wad between powder and ball....I've been doing it like that for years....not saying it's better just the way I do it...it also helps prevent premature ignition of other cylinders....and I like the smell of the butter lol.
Beautiful video, nice gun, only have a dance brothers revolver for colt clone, need one like yours, absolutely beautiful lines
The Moment when your teammate yells: I have to reload and runs away
How'd you get your finish to look like that? That looks like an original.
Stripped by wrapping in warmed up vinegar soaked paper towels. Then brushed with salt saturated water. Allowed to dry and let set for a week, with several sessions of bathroom shower steam. Then lightly go over with cold blue (I think I did the cold blue after this video).
Thanks for taking time to talk to the young man who was enquiring about your gun, with cost and such. I’ve come across people who gave attitude about cost of before, as it’s not that I’m doing a credit cheque- just curious and conversation. Some French québécois gave me attitude about his bike “ I asked what it’s worth” and he said “ none of your business,” I went online, thinking it was a $15000 bike, only worth $3000 at Giant, how rude
In the UK these were classed as obsolete caliber so I own about 3 of these , I dont know if they're still legal but the men at the police station say it's fine. So I occasionally take them to the range along with the old Confederate LeMatt revolver.
after reloading the war is end..
old is gold but in this time I can load and fire approximately 100s of rounds from a modern revolver.
This is the gun you load all week and shoot on Sunday.
LOL imagine this as a call of duty reload
During the civil war, this was high tech. They would have pre-loaded cylinders in a pouch. The 1860 Colt Army was a 44cal. loaded with 40 Grains of powder. This would knock a man down at 50 yards.
the 1860 army doesn't take cylinders, you are thinking of the 1858 remington revolver which has a base pin that holds the cylinder. The colt requires a full disassembly to take out the cylinder
No sé que es mas extraño, el arma?, Sus uñas?, el tatuaje de snoopy ? o que soy el único comentario en español?
La respuesta está en tu corazón ❤
Ya la encontraste? :v
Jajaja
Soy de Brasil tambien estoy aca afinal ablamos portunhol jajajaja ✌️🇧🇷✌️
Ni siquiera vi agusto la recarga del arma por estarme fijando en sus uñas, que asco
This gun is like a last resort. There’s no reloading it after you’ve used it. It’s as good as a club in the midst of battle
I love how instructional this is.
Imagine that loading process in the heat of battle! Today, slow to load but fun to shoot!
5 years to short.
Shot
5 min.
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General JJ ل
General JJ 👏😂
I love the fact that the barrel is aiming at him!
Just about the time he finally gets it loaded, "Cease Fire! Completely unload your weapons!"
I much prefer to use the Lee .44 cal round-nose 167 grain as-cast pure lead bullet atop about 25 grains of Pyrodex Pistol and I use Armour Beef tallow from the Mexican supermarket (10 lb. plastic bucket) for lube. Much more accurate than round-ball and hits MUCH harder. It become fully equal to a black powder, lead bullet load .44 special, which Billy the Kid Bonnie used to great effect (a Bulldog Hammond). Real black powder in FFFg of good quality (I prefer the British brands) is so hard to get today, I grit my teeth, use Pyrodex and suffer the cleaning woes. I have a Fiaachi .44 Remington for serious target shooting and a Whitneyville Walkercolt for chopping down blackjack oaktrees, a couple of .36 cal, and a GENUINE Colt's Pocket Revolver in .32 caliber in my safety deposit box. It's worth more than my truck now!
Dude you gotta make your own black powder. It’ll save you a ton of money and it’ll be as good as those European powders. Remember the type of charcoal you use is important. Use willow if you can but if you dont have willow charcoal use cedar charcoal. Any soft wood would do
1:34 " yes one barrel, so one at a time.😅🤪😂🤣😂😂🤣🤣🤣😂😂
Cover me, I am reloading!
Ya'll... They mostly bring paper cartridges that would just fit in the revolver. It was slow but.. not as slow as the single-shot musket pistols. (Mabye the comments are satire, but I'd like to comment this nonetheless if ever some are actually curious)
I always completely load each chamber one at a time. That way if you have to lay the pistol down you don't spill the powder.
Someone get him some nail clippers.
How much coke so you suspect has passed through them?
@@chrishansen1293 enough
thats for the trans hobby next weekend..
If you would notice, those nails actually came in handy for removing the lead rings after he pressed the ball in to the cylinder. He might be on to something.
@@strelnecov مدفع
Какой отличный револьвер! Это практически музейная ценность.
реплика
may be the best gun in thise days....looks like you have great knowledge .... people hit dislike button the moment they see it boring.....thing is it might be made even when our great grandfathers were not born......
Shaking down the powder from the flask to the tube gives you an uneven load on each chamber. Invert, open the gate, gravity, pour. Check it on the scales to see the result.
@Hawker75 hi Hawker, wow ! That’s such an old post. Yes, you are right with smokeless powder consistent loads are essential. However I did find that I got tighter groups when practising the pour instead of shake method with my Ruger Old Army with adjustable sights. DB.
Needs Speed Cola
Is the finish worn off?
It's been stripped and had some relic work.
Have you ever had a moment when, after being distracted by something, you are not sure if you double-loaded a cylinder?
What a dangerous method to load a gun. No wonder casualties were high in the Civil War. Cheers!
lmao
“how much do those cost?” eaAHH
I wonder if there was anyone in that era with a sleight of hand with this gun n shiit.
The guy*completes reloading his gun* His friend who was soldier and partner of him:bro the war is over!
Very good work.
Legend has it his nails are still growing
Right God damn man cut your nails
I'm watching it in 4X faster.. still it's slow..😂
0:50 "Boy this guy looks busy filming, let me start asking him to quote me prices."
He answers and speak very very accurately