How Deadly is a Flintlock Rifle? The British hated this thing
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The Flinctlock Rifle was a hunting mainstay in early America. During the Revolutionary War many of these found themselves pressed into service with irregular troops. The question is, how effective were these and what did the wounds look like?
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Not pictured: The combined hour and a half of reloading to bring you this video
I think it’s implied and obvious lol
thats what his slaves are for
AK Flintlock when, you handsome youtube motherlover?
@@mutum1 it’s pronounced un paid intern
That’s why you do like Mel Gibson and have 5 guns loaded and your two sons doing your reloading
That is a genuinely horrifying amount of damage. The "as the founding fathers intended" home defense copypasta seems much more realistic now.
My dead neighbor's dog would like to agree with you.
"Golf ball sized hole" seems a woefully inadequate measure right now!
Well what about the cannon upstairs?
At least it doesn’t blow the lung out of the body like the military-grade, high-caliber 9mm round
I was just thinking that.. I thought it was just "meme" bluster, but wow.
I'll always be in awe of the fact that people not only stood still in lines shooting at each other with these monstrosities, but also the fact that they did so in an orderly fashion.
Not quite true or how battles worked back then. The orderly standing in line thing was mostly about getting a massed single volley to saturate the air with lead but also to crush your enemy's morale, as well as fsciliate reloading. So theyd have one line firing the next is reloading, to have contunuous fire rate. But yeah, war back then was really just a massive game of chicken. There was a lot of maneuvering and firing at peak distance, but the actual deciding part of battle would be over in a couple of minutes, if one side manages to get a decent volley in. Discipline was also paramount because there's been cases where an army won because the enemy army shot too soon, which mostly missed, which allowed the winning army to march forward to optimal distance, take their shot and just absolutely mow down the enemy army Its also worth noting that on the battlefield aim goes out the window, both because of adrenalin pumping and also because most people have a hard time psychologically aiming such a weapon at a living breathing human being, so most would just be aiming in the general direction of the enemy
It would have been interesting to get the FPS and FPE on the projectile .
@dango470 not to mention that they were sold on glory and looooots of Gin. Most of the blokes were as pissed as a handcart.
Yes - insane - the guy next to you gets half his skull blown off, and you calmly just keep reloading.
@@rinzler9775 not calmly, but you do need to reload to shoot again. But armies generally played a big game of chicken - few battles end with one side completely dead from the fighting, usually once soldiers around you start falling left and right, someone's bound to start running and once one guy starts running everyone else joins him
As a flintlock guy, watching you load was painful. But I love that you did this
He had a big ass flinch shooting that thing lol
Dude the fact that most people don't use pre-measured paper cartridges like you're supposed to when loading a flintlock is SO painful to keep watching
@@torrinfellIt's also much more historically accurate to be using pre-filled paper cartridges, which were standard for both the British and Continental armies and uniformed militias.
Not for the Kentucky rifle. @@Grimenoughtomaketherobotcry
@@peanutbutter551 You're correct; I should have specified that the cartridges were for muskets, which were the primary weapon of both sides. Rifles were also used by both sides, in much smaller numbers, and required a more complex and time consuming method of loading, though they were much more accurate and had over twice the effective range of the musket.
Politicians: "this modern handgun round can tear you lungs open" Meanwhile, a 250 year-old black powder weapon: _literally decapitates someone_
Yes because as we all know, it's only about the power of the round itself and not the many other differences modern firearms have compared to these guns.
@@bafitness3925 do you feel smart and righteous after typing all that?
@@bafitness3925 you cant even spell ad hominem right talk about not worth my time rofl lmao
@@bafitness3925 try harder next time
The video they did with the Russian KS-23 "4 Guage" Shotgun with a 1000 grain slug didn't eviscerate the target head as much as this ancient BoomStick!!! lol
I think the most terrifying thing about this video is not just the flintlocks deadlines, but realizing the lack of medical capabilities to treat these wounds in the 1700s.
Especially with the introduction of triangular bayonets Edit: just a myth nvm
Basically cut it out or cut it off.
Getting hit = dead/you lose a limb/you lose a limb and die
Even today… I’m a civi medic and I would HATE to deal with these wounds
@@zacharyveatch8438 just looking at that headshot and i can see why you guys deserve more money than you do, god bless y'all and your line of work
Garand Thumb doing the whole Sand People thing @ 9:01 while holding a musket after just making a nice shot made my whole day.
Tuscan, you racist lol.
You mean Arab?
@@heikkiremes5661Star wars reference, not racism.
@@terryteed1903 Fairly sure Sand People wouldn’t be any more racist than “Tusken Raider.” They only got that name because they, well, raided Fort Tusken.
@@ratgobbler lol.
Spat my tea straight into the harbour when you came at King George like that ...
Raising the rifle over your head and letting out a Tusken Raider yell is something every man must do in his life at least once after a successful shot.
Been there, done that.
That was the best thing to do after that flintlock long shot
Laughed my ass off when he did that.
hmmm, I'll take note of that for the future
They travel single file, in order to conceal their numbers.?..
Own a musket for home defense, since that's what the founding fathers intended. Four ruffians break into my house. "What the devil?" As I grab my powdered wig and Kentucky rifle. Blow a golf ball sized hole through the first man, he's dead on the spot. Draw my pistol on the second man, miss him entirely because it's smoothbore and nails the neighbors dog. I have to resort to the cannon mounted at the top of the stairs loaded with grape shot, "Tally ho lads" the grape shot shreds two men in the blast, the sound and extra shrapnel set off car alarms. Fix bayonet and charge the last terrified rapscallion. He Bleeds out waiting on the police to arrive since triangular bayonet wounds are impossible to stitch up. Just as the founding fathers intended.
Can Flannel Daddy and a bunch of other guntubers do this as a skit?
Did you have this typed and ready?
My first thought when I saw the video title.
You got it all wrong, you first fire your musket, then the pistol, and then you close in with your sword.
This is the only acceptable top comment.
My great grandfather fought for the Union and was wounded in 63 in the side by shrapnel or a bullet. Seeing the bullet impact at 5:21 gave me chills
How old are you that your great grandfather was in the Civil War?
@@untrainedmechanic ok I’m sorry Great Great Great Great Grandfather I just hate saying great 5 times
@@thecivilwarguy3674 But you only said it four times?
@@BUCKINATORCHRIS He’s a bit slow.
Wrong firearm, this is the gun HIS grandfather used.
The damage that did on the headshot was insane! This channel rules.
Hollywood scammed us where they show tiny ball entry wound. And a cannon looking like someone threw a baseball on the ground and 3 random extras just fall.
The ballistics are more impressive than I thought they would be.
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those entrance wounds were insane!
Same, never think they're that strong, I've heard of 300 yrd shots in the revolution
The accuracy from the rifling tripled (or more!) the effective range over a smoothbore musket.
Those wounds look absolutely frigging brutal. That ball just stopped traveling through the body or absolutely pancaked. Scary stuff.
Well we can all be sure that flintlock sharpshooters didn't need optics to confirm a kill, that headshot says it all... My goodness, that is terrifying.
I'm sure the distance had a lot to do with it...
@@nickabel8279 Yea distance does play a lot into it but most of the older firearms didn't shoot many yards away compared to modern day firearms. What made them dangerous was since they acted like cannons the impact at the right range is a lot higher than say a modern day rifle since flint locks weren't aimed to penetrate. They were also damaging since the the powder used was black powder instead of the modern smokeless powder which is less volatile than black powder. If you see explosive experts on prop sets use black powder you know they mostly use very little for the explosion since black powder has a mind of it's own sometimes and even in a open container will it still act like a bomb.
@@zerwire7856 If muskets hit harder than modern rifles, why soldiers only got injured and just fell down or unable to move (I saw it from some movies) comparing to mostly instant death by modern gunshots? (No bad intention I'm just curious)
@@kladius8045 neither of those statements are fully correct. For one, hundreds of thousands of people survive GSWs every day. It's called shot placement mate. Getting shot and hit in a vital area will put you down. Getting shot in a non-vital area wont put you down.
@@sebastianriz4703 Oh I see
Think this might be my favourite video you've done. That musical sting after the round hit was perfect.
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This is so much more disturbing than any war movie has ever been. I can't believe anyone ever survived a shot from one of these in the field, even peripherally.
Yeah I normally have a pretty strong stomach, but honestly the thought of catching one of those musket balls has me a little nauseous. Shout out to any fucker who would willingly stand in front of one of these
@@willv3462 they're only shooting a 49 cal musket ball too, the british and american regulars shot 70 cal
@@westenicho would the smoothbore muskets the regulars had have a lower average muzzle velocity though?
Muskets and the arquebus before the muskets were very powerful! We're talking about these things had 70 or 85 or 95 caliber firepower.
@@TheOneWayDown undoubtedly, the calibers of the musket shots ranged considerably to allow them to be rammed down the barrel without getting stuck, meaning the smaller the caliber used the more room it had to move around before exiting the barrel. the brown bess that the british regulars used was smooth bore, probably because they didn't need rifling and increased rifle range for the type of tactics they used in battle. or maybe it was a cost cutting measure.
I want to see a proper cannon with grapeshot next. You know, the kind of weapon on the battlefield when the 2nd amendment was envisioned :)
Just as the founding fathers intended ;) (love your content btw)
Grapeshot shreds two men in the blast
Or the tri sided bayonets that supposedly aren't stitchable.
@@alan_clough
Tally ho lads!
I love that musket!! The wood furniture is beautiful
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There was a militia captain named Daniel Morgan who assembled "Morgan's Riflemen" as the Revolution heated up. The test to get in was to hit a roofing shingle with your rifled musket, cold bore at 250 meters. If you missed, you could still join his unit as support staff (i.e. cooks), but not as a rifleman.
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Meters?
@@scottcantdance804 Must have meant feet, which is still highly impressive
I once went 10 rounds with Captain Morgan. I'm still here to tell the tale
@@Docsporseen1 we still use feet and yards, metric was not sometthing in common use by us back then as much as it is now.
Imagine being in a battle back then where thousands of men would fire these things at each other in a field. Must have been horrifying.
It was a hell of a lot messier.
I'm sure that it's like today. 90% 💩 their pants, send rounds wildly into the air and then lie curled up in a ball begging for their mommy till it's over. It's the natural human response. Of course men were a lot less vaginal back then.
Now imagine a modern war when a single man can fire thousands, fighter jets above, tanks and ifv on the ground. Missiles and rockets in the air
@@epiphone5696 Imagine the governments get half the world to inject themselves with experimental injections and everyone is just "dying suddenly". Some would venture to say that's a pretty unethical form of warfare and would consider it war crimes.
@@epiphone5696 sure the weapons in modern warfare are much more devastating, but the size of modern battlefields and the style of fighting are completely different. A couple dozen men having a firefight with one another is incomparable to organized lines of men where 70,000 men would March at each other on open ground in tight formations firing spicy golf balls at each other then charging with bayonets
A few times having muzzle loader beside your head and you pouring new powder in makes me nervous. I've seen powder cook off. Crazy things happen. Stay safe again another awesome video
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Historical reenactor for Revolutionary War here. Been shooting muskets since I was around 8. George Washington himself recommended his troops to load their muskets with buck and ball, which usually meant a ball followed by 3 to 6 sizable buckshot pellets. If just the ball can do that kind of damage, imagine what that load could do. Never tested it but wouldn’t mind a follow up to this!
Me too man. 3RDNY REGIMENT.
I would absolutely love a follow-up in the way described above
Please tell me someone has made a video doing this, this just proves why Washington was a general(?)
That's vicious
@@Tyfu39944 You do realize buck and ball loads were very common. It was one of the reasons that some units chose to keep using smoothbore muskets during the civil war.
that headshot was brutal. I kinda feel sorry for people who seen their friends end like this in person...not the worst death but absolutely scary.
Yes, If it hits you like that at least it's just lights out, you don't suffer like if it hit you in the side and you bleed out slowly knowing noone can fix you up.
@@dwrabaukeyeah headshot is kinda humane in comparison to machete or knife injuries. but still OMG that was bloody.
I was reading about battles in the war of 1812 the other day, in one of the naval battles a British captain was decapitated by a rifle shot during a battle, to then see it happen to a dummy is eye-opening.
@@carteranderson5907 where can i read
Ya, I'm reading "Gunshot Wounds: Practical Aspects of Firearms, Ballistics, and Forensic Techniques" right now, and that's one thing I keep thinking over and over, is I don't care how bad my life is, I couldn't do THAT to my family. There a hundred other ways I would take my life before a large-bore to the head!
The guy with the take/wrench is my spirit animal ❤
Powder fouling in black powder muskets and rifles was a significant issue. The more you shoot, the more fouling builds up in the barrel and the harder it gets to load. You will eventually have to to clean it to continue shooting. The good thing is, powder fouling is water soluble so you can just swab it out with water and a wad of tow (unspun flax fiber) that you would wrap around a "worm" tool that you would screw onto the end of your ramrod.
How anyone survived this era is both mystery and impressive.
No mystery, they were all insane by our standards.
@@massimothetrog7111 they were civilised gentlemen who wouldnt hassetate finishing you off with their swords, they were indeed crazy back then.
@@goodwinter6017 Hallo. what is means "Hassetate"?
@@Bhatt_Hole you know hasitate, my spelling is off
@@goodwinter6017 you doing ok over there man?
My Ancestor was hit in the hip with a British musket. He was in the continental army. He survived and went back out to finish the war. I don’t know how he did it after seeing this.
Could have been at a greater distance where the round didn't have as much energy. Revolutionary war tactics were much heavier on skirmishing compared to napoleonic tactics.
Well its possible. You need to throw leg back together ofc and provide care for months after wound, if you are lucky and wound is not infected.
maybe a deflected bullet
@@jeffreydorman8715 grapefruit sized hole and AR15 don’t go in the same sentence chief
As others have said, ricochet, or long enough range causing the ball to lose its kinetic energy would explain why his hip wasn't destroyed.
This was my favourite for comedy content. Actually just my favourite. Thank you
I got a denix replica of a Pattern 1853 Enfield for Christmas. I'm a civil war nut so I had to get this thing. Primarily because they didn't have the Springfields of the time, but I knew the history of the one I got better. To their dismay as soon as I opened it, I gave them a history lesson and a lesson about the technical part about how it worked, guns before it, and the differences between muskets and rifles at the time. That's how I never got another denix replica again despite my constant rifling (Get it?) through the catalogues.
It would be interesting to see this Flintlock's effect on body armor / modern military helmets
The soft lead rounds would be stopped easier since they actually flatten when they hit thus making the body armor MORE effective.
@@alericc1889 Yeah probably but it would still be interesting to see
@@alericc1889 it may not penetrate but the sheer blunt force trauma would no doubt cause massive internal haemorrhageing.
@@theydontlikeitupem.4725 True, but that would also depend on the distance of the shooter to the target. Since they are .54 cal balls they will have a lot of mass when they hit but black powder is slow burning and didnt have the same velocity as a modern rifle round. It would definitely be painful.
@@theydontlikeitupem.4725 I can tell you from personal experience it really isn't that impressive with level 3A. Similar damage to something like a .357 - .44 magnum. Maybe a couple broken ribs and a bruise but nothing that would really incapacitate someone unless it was a helmet shot.
My history teacher showed this in class today. Needless to say he's my favorite now.
Thats awesome!
Your history teacher needs to run for US Secretary of Education.
@@casey360360 too bad that isn't an elected position.
He’s also my favorite teacher now too 👌🏽
@Rehoboth Farm democracy is cringe, vocal minorities always ruin the society with bad ideas, and only the unintelligent vote anyhow since they don't recognize it as it is; the renewal of income for career politicians
great work - please more revolutionary war history videos
Though my knowledge is a tad more primitive (16th century), you should have a bandolier with wooden or horn bottles with measured out levels of powder. This was done before a battle, allowing for reloading to happen much faster. This would reduce the amount of time needed to reload for a period of time and you can swap out bandoliers if you run low.
I think a similar thing was done in the Napoleonic wars, where the soldiers had measured out charges of black powder, as well as having their horn or whatever full of extra powder
@@8-bitsarda747By the napoleonic wars cartridges had been invented so everything was contained inside a paper tube you would tear open to load with
Nah, we didn't use those by the late 1700s when the revolution happened. Paper cartridges were the norm for muskets in 1770s warfare. Rifles like this didn't use cartridges, they were very specialized equipment brought from home by the men who used them, they were deployed not in ranks but as skirmishers (snipers) on the flanks and roaming the rear for targets of opportunity such as high ranking officers.
Seeing how effective this weapon is makes me think of how gruesome the combat was in that era. War is hell in any time period but thinking about the level of medical science at the time and the fact that there were often lines of soldiers facing each other without cover it puts into perspective the bravery of those men.
& the arrogant stupidity of tyrants who sent them to die for their obsessions; i.e.; GEORGE...
The standard anesthetic, disinfectant _and_ moral booster was a bottle of whiskey. Truly a multipurpose marvel of modern medicine... If even they bothered using any.
@@Kneb587 And you know that that whiskey was probably not made with today's best practices...It was likely cheap and probably tasted like nail polish.
Gives you a idea of how bad getting hit with the larger muskets would have been too. Buck and ball loads in particular would have been pretty nasty.
@@monabale8263 George III. was not a tyrannt at all
Man, that first head to explode just really surprised me. Now I'm just imagining the psychological toll the first firearms must have had. For thousands of years a bow an arrow was the most dangerous range weapon. Then one day your enemy arrives with a bizarre stick that creates a massive smoke cloud and a thunderous boom and suddenly your buddies head just magically disappears.
When i read about roman weaponry i was really surprised by the effectiveness of slings. They were used by special auxiliary forces and outranged pretty much everything aside from scorpions, plus the projectiles apparently are pretty much silent when flying, which leads to a bunch of people dying from lead weights with insults inscribed into them, shot from almost impossibly far away
@@tobiaspieringer1653 they used whistling shot with slings too. So now not only are you dieing from fish weights now it sounds like banshees are diving on your platoon lol
@@trailblazer632 yea it's pretty crazy to think you can throw a piece of lead that's been shaped properly and it will puncture your skull, possibly your helmet depending on the range. EDIT: and like the other guy said it might say something truly insulting on it, people have been writing witty things on projectiles long before people wrote shit on bombs.
It wasn’t exactly sudden. Gun powder was used for bombards (large cannons for sieges) before they were effectively used for personal weapons. The first hand guns were not particularly great weapons either. Even after they became good weapons, a trained bowman could still reliably out shoot them. Guns were just easy and quick to train people to use.
@s1rhcs1vad sure it is quiet but cmon 30 arrows vs one bullet before detection? Maybe against Storm Troopers.
Whoever did the video editing on this needs to be put up for an award
That dissident fiddle is perfection.
Crazy to think that a Civil War soldier with a percussion cap rifle was expected to be able to load and fire 3 rounds per minute
A British soldier was told to shoot 3 shots per minute with a musket and that was a must, however because the way the muskets were loaded (ie with paper cartridges and like no wadding), the muskets were very inaccurate. This is how why get the misconceptions of the inaccurate muskets. If loaded correctly with tight wadding, the shot would actually be pretty accurate, not in comparison to rifles though
By the civil war the bullets were better designed and easier to load. Minea? Mine? Don't remember the spelling. Prior to this you had to slap the bullet all the way down a rifled barrel with an interference fit. They say after a few shots it could take a minute or more to get a bullet loaded.
@@owensthilaire8189 Minié ball
And civil war units would stand and fight until 80% of the men were killed.
Well they would have had cartridge, a pre measured poured and set package with shot all ready to go, just takes a bite, pour, ram and prime. It does help them along as well as they did not have patched shot being a bit easier to ram down such a shot.
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Those are great books and a great show!
This was way more devastating than I imagined it being and I'm all about it!!! Would love to see a video of yall comparing this flintlock rifle to a 12ga slug.
im loving the tactical wrench
Imagine you're just marching along on a patrol back in the 18th century and suddenly the guy next to just doesn't have a head anymore and you're covered in his blood. Like wtf even that does so much more damage than I would have imagined, that's terrifying. People talking about having a shotgun for home defense being overkill have no idea what they meant when they said you could have something like this to defend yourself with back then.
May I introduce you to the blunderbus?
And of course it's someone with an MLP avatar saying this.
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@@onanthebarbarian4842 Oof, I've been got by the dreaded Onan The Barbarian. Whatever shall I do, however will I recover.
@@lonelypancake5979 lol
I can’t imagine the horrors of the civil war, even after seeing the carnage from this weapon from 100years earlier
Civil War rifled muskets were mostly .58-cal and fired the Minie ball, ignited with a percussion cap. They were military weapons as well, so they could fix bayonets.
Civilwar also used the Minne Ball round which was similar in appearance to modern rounds, but yeah no the wounds were still harsh
The medical museum at the Presidio in San Francisco was absolutely a chamber of horrors. The pictures of soldiers wounds and the arcane surgical techniques of the day would give a hardened man a case of the heebie geebies!
@@ronaldrobertson2332 The minie ball was still a full lead-only round. It had better accuracy but the wounds were just as devastating as what we see here.
Rifles in the civil war where way more advanced and deadly because of better ammo and it shot way further then a flint lock.
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It's interesting seeing this: Modern rounds are about effective distance and armor penetration. 1776 rounds were all about raw, effective damage.
5.56 and smaller are just shooting specks of dust compare to those bad boys.
The necessity was different too. There just wasnt a need for AP rounds or things like that, not to mention the tech required to mass produce a “bullet” as we know today
That stopping power we all hear about from the 1911 guys.
@@LandoIV When he said if you saw that wound and didn't know what it was from. "Well that's a got-dang .45!"
Also, if you look at alot of the drilling/target/sniper rifles from the pre-1860's, a lot of the ballistics involved the mass and momentum of a large caliber lead projectile to reach ranges of 1000+ yards. Given most of that changed with the creation of the Whitworth rifle. It used a .451 mechanically fitted bullet to toss lead 1800 yards with a 12 to 14 foot spread.
That 100 yard shot to the shoulder would've been lethal too. It wouldn't have killed a soldier right there on the field, but it's a massive wound and it's not on an exterior limb that can be amputated. Gangrene would set in and reach the lung, heart, and throat fast. Terrifying thought at standing still in a line of troops facing that.
What’s gangrene man I’m un educated
@@hellogg9300 gangrene is an infection from dead skin caused by lack of blood flow. These dead skin cells would cause the infection to spread rapidly and infect your heart and brain, which would cause cell death, and spreading unchecked, as it would in the 18th century, it will eventually cause a death that is unfortunately not painless
@@hellogg9300infection from unclean would that basically rots away tissue.
@@hellogg9300 then search it up. You have 99% of human knowledge at your fingertips goddamn
Not necessarily. If the artery wasn't destroyed he might survive, though infection was a danger. In the Civil War, Major Chatham Roberdeau Wheat, the founder of the 9th Louisiana Tigers, was shot through both lungs and miraculously survied. Where you were screwed was a gut shot that perforated the abdominal cavity -- that almost always led to peritonitis, an exceptionally painful way to die. They usually amputated limb wounds because the rounds pulverized the bone, so there was nothing to set and gangrene would often set in.
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Would've been fun to see a shot through a t-shirt on this one. That's one thing I always heard about the big bore BP era, that the ball would carry a significant chunk of garment into the wound with it and turn the survivable wound into an almost certainly fatal infection
I want these men to make a video on how to TACTICALLY use these flintlocks for home defence. And also on how to properly shank a ruffian with a bayonet. Since that's what the founding fathers intended.
Two words: volley gun
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This comment needs to be upvoted till GarandThumb sees it!!!! This HAS TO BE done
TALLY HO LADS!
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Little fun fact, the flint lock rifle was the reason why we say "Ka-Boom" today. The Ka is the flint strike and then you have the Boom.
That is a fun fact.
This would be cool if it wasn't so blatantly untrue
Cool as hell fact
I thought « Ka-Boom » came from the movie « The Beast of War » 🤔
Very cool, I had no idea, thanks for sharing.
i got a set of 1858 remingtons ubirty made with a lot of extra cylinders and converters to 45 long colt they are very very good at shooting . the guy i got them from was a retired colt gunsmith marksmen he took first place in a hand gun shooting contest against modern guns.
That’s absolutely crazy how much damage it does man
People had to walk straight in volley fire Knowing that they could have chunks torn out of them. CHUNKS ! The injuries in films are so gentle compared to this.
Well, these are flintlock rifles, which did a whole lot more deal of damage than the smoothbore muskets, which were the ones used in volleys. Infantry did not use these hunting rifles, though some militia did with their own.
@@lux2132 The main advantage to the rifle is it is far more accurate than a smooth bore. But at closer ranges the smooth bores actually had an advantage because they could be reloaded quicker. During the revolution the continentals did actually field some mixed units with both smoothbore and rifles.
@@rburch20 Pretty much. I read that Napoleonic War era British flintlock rifles could hit a target up to 200 yards, which is a difficult shot for even for modern rifles and regular shooters, ngl. It is true that it took longer to load these guns. Musketry was for large battles, whereas rifles were used for skirmishes; light infantry would first hit the enemy officer in a skirmish if it were to happen. That's why they would need a rifle, for a proper shot a musket wouldn't give
Imagine seeing your buddy take a ball to the fucking dome and you just gotta stand there next to his body.
@@Deadvenuz yea, with his brains spattered all over your neck and face.
I have been using flintlocks since I was 7. My great grandfather had a .54 caliber rifle and a .69 caliber smoothbore. My grandfather had a .72 caliber smoothbore and a .50 caliber rifle. Rifles were accurate with a patched ball out to about 200 yards with an inexperienced person but could easily be stretched to 300 yards under the right user and rifle. Most rifles during the revolution were predominantly .45 and .50 caliber. Some the "Over the Mountain Men" had .54 caliber rifles but .45 and .50 was dominant. Round balls were deadly, they made of soft lead so when they struck bone they pancaked and became a rather large projectile plunging through your body. Lead balls would also get bacteria collected on them and corrode causing easy infection when wounded. "Chewed" Round Balls were dimpled with a file and would tear flesh pretty badly. However the worst weapons during the Revolution were Smoothbores. These weapons contained no rifling just a smooth barrel. My first flintlock was a .72 caliber smoothbore. These smoothbores could be loaded with Shot, Round Ball, Chewed Ball, Buck and Ball and "Fluff". Fluff was basically glass, nails, scrap metal, rocks and generally anything stuffed down the bore. Imagine getting hit by half a pound of nails at 25 yards and the half a pound is grouped in a 4" area.
Jesus.Fluff sounds like cannon grapeshot
@@tachankskang Grape Shot and Canister shot were actually dedicated rounds. Fluff is more or less the equivalent of fletchettes. Although privately owned Artillery during the revolution utilised fluff as well. Worse cannon shot of all in my opinion is chain shot or quicklime.
Buck and ball was widely considered the most effective load as it had the highest chance to hit a target past 50 yards.
@@pipebombpete.6861 yea in my .72 the best I got was a .69 caliber ball with 4 .36 caliber balls. Was pretty accurate out to about 60 yards and 75 if I tied the cartridge tight with string.
Also most the rifles back then weren’t actually standard sizes. When you rifled your barrel you’d make a mold for the bullets, that’s why bullets often couldn’t be shared.
Man I love this trio.
oh Charlie, bless your heart!!
Absolutely devastating. Just as the founding fathers intended.
Do you mean the tax Dodging British farmers?
Own a musket for home defense, since that's what the founding fathers intended. Four ruffians break into my house. "What the devil?" As I grab my powdered wig and Kentucky rifle. Blow a golf ball sized hole through the first man, he's dead on the spot. Draw my pistol on the second man, miss him entirely because it's smoothbore and nails the neighbors dog. I have to resort to the cannon mounted at the top of the stairs loaded with grape shot, "Tally ho lads" the grape shot shreds two men in the blast, the sound and extra shrapnel set off car alarms. Fix bayonet and charge the last terrified rapscallion. He Bleeds out waiting on the police to arrive since triangular bayonet wounds are impossible to stitch up. Just as the founding fathers intended.
@@mq5731 self defense circa 2030.
@@mq5731 I'm just gonna get an ar15 can cannon and launch bayonets at them modern and classic design
You're Goddamn right!
That head shot was wild. Did not expect those ballistics at all!
Why wouldn't you think that would happen at point blank range right at the joint?
@@monotech20.14 wrong HS. the one before that
@@monotech20.14 The one before the point blank one obviously.
10:35 Now I knoweth what thou are thinking, "Did he remembereth his powder charge or not?" However, if I am to be as honest as General Washinngton with his apple tree, in the fray I do not precisely remembereth myself. Yet being as this here rifle is a .54 calibur, the most powerful rifle in the known world, of which if my aim are true, would remove thy head cleanly from thy body, thou must ask thyself but one query; "Do I fancy myself fortunate?" Well do thee, rapscallion? -Dirty Harrold
Micah is the funniest guntuber and hes your sidekick. Thats fucking insane. Props to you for pulling off the straight-guy bit too. Killed it
Bear hunting was a massive occupation in the musket/black powder era, speaks volumes about the power they're capable of putting out
Do you think one shot to the head with a musket could take down an elephant?
@@Andreas-xx8go well it really depends on a lot of things, but short answer, yes, it could, and elephants were also poached and hunted back in the black powder days of firearms as well. So therefore a musket can indeed kill an elephant, but whether it did so in one shot would depend on the caliber of the musket, the weight and velocity of the projectile, the amount of powder used, the size/age/gender of the elephant, the distance to the elephant, and of course, the shooter's skill. Somebody in the 1950s killed a world record grizzly bear with a headshot of .22LR, but that doesn't mean .22LR is always 100% of the time gonna take down a bear; it just depends on the context
@@plaguepandemic5651 most "traditional" elephant hunting with guns involves standing your ground as the animal charges you, then putting a round into its skull and side-stepping if you have time left.
@@Andreas-xx8go what distance?
@@TheCaptainbeefylogHoly shit. That’s something for thrill seekers I reckon.
The best part about a musket is, even a child can buy one! Truly as the founding fathers intended.
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It's a little iffy on the legality of when and where you can fire them, but nobody needs permission from the government to own a cannon TODAY.
@@r.l.royalljr.3905 Wait... They are considered cannons under the law?
It depends on where. In my stupid, tyrannical state, black powder guns are still treated as regular firearms, as are bb guns, all requiring a Firearm ID (with all background checks) as well as the same restrictive laws regarding transfers and transportation.
880 yards… a young man named Timothy Murphy during the American Revolution is documented to have literally sniped British officers and soldiers alike at ranges up to 900 yards with his Pennsylvania Rifle. This was not unusual and the militia was the cause of the loss of the war for the British. There are thousands of documented historical records of some frontiersman fighting as militia killing men from 400 yards with these rifles. I have the pleasure of being a curator and researcher at my local museum as a side hobby and I enjoy teaching folks about Daniel Morgan, who went out into the frontier of Pennsylvania in 1778 and recruited 500 men from the ages of 18 to 24, they met up with 1,400 frontier men in the siege of Boston and they could consistently strike a 7 inch target from 250 yards. Daniel Morgan and hundreds of other men (a true hero of the war and someone people need to know more about) at the siege of Saratoga witnessed Timothy Murphy strike and kill a British dispatch rider riding full speed on his horse from 400 yards with his rifle…. Having shot these guns and being close acquaintances with a man who has won National and international tournaments shooting musketry and Kentucky rifles, I’m also a bold defender of the accuracy of muskets. Modern media portrays them false. You can relatively consistently strike a watermelon at 100 yards with a smooth bore brown Bess and other muskets and push it to way slimmer chances at 200 yards. Anyway I hope this comment peaks people’s interest in forgotten history!
Couple things: the majority of troops were armed with smoothbores including militia. Partly because they were far more effective due to volume of fire and the ability to mount a bayonet. Also because the majority of those in the east used Fowlers as hunting weapons. In certain regions (notably the frontiers and mountainous regions of the south) the rifle was a preferred arm modern and was well recorded (modern revisionists notwithstanding). What was also recorded was how the rifleman lost his effectiveness in conventional warfare due to the lack of bayonet and slow loading (a musket can be 4-5 times faster to reload and doesn’t suffer as heavily from fouling). Another factor is the low visibility of a 18th century battlefield due to powder smoke would eliminate accurate sharpshooting. The role they were eventually used in effectively was as frontier fighters, light infantry, and skirmishers. In this role the rifleman excelled to the point the British formed rifle units of their own in subsequent wars (baker rifles for example). The bill of the fighting, however, was still with muskets not rifles which have much larger calibers (.69 and .75) and operate under slightly different ballistic principles (its the old debate of light but fast versus slow but heavy as it applies to bullet performance).
It’s a real skill to stay on target in the split second between the flint dropping, the powder igniting, and the bullet launching
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@@ChopsWildRide not at all. The bow doesn't cause a massive flame 2 inches from your eyeball.
@@wolfpack4128 No, it doesn't, but it still requires you to follow through on your shot
@@ChopsWildRide It's much more like a sling shot
@@xGSFxGoat wait, is that why i'm so bad at shooting my bows? i have to follow through?
Ok, so on reloading: Back in the day, soldiers would make their ammunition while at camp. They would pre-measure out their powder and store them in paper cartridges that also contained the ball (there are several ways of doing this, each with pros and cons) and have a bag of these. Older still, like during the English Civil War, musketeers would have proto-bandoliers of pre-measured powder in wooden vessels on this belt around the chest. Now, they needed the wood because they were using Matchlocks which... are not fucking safe! At all! As time passed, the paper cartridge would get to the point that they would be used in needle-fire rifles and soon after, copper cartridge were used (there are a three different types that I know of; Pin fire, Rim fire, and Center fire). Copper would be quickly replaced with the brass we know and love today.
Soldiers did not make their own cartridges. Militia, using their own rifles like this, would be loading from a powderhorn and loose shot. Military, armed with muskets, were issued paper cartridges. They didn't make them in camp.
@@lordexmouth1217 My brother in Christ, there are so many accounts of this. We have evidence from place like Austria making 'bar slugs' on the field. Cap and Ball has a great many videos on this.
I have read untold numbers of primary and secondary sources of military forces of the 18th and 19th centuries, and a little of the 17th as well. That wasn't common. It may have been done on rare occasions as an emergency thing, but it wasn't the standard. Regulars were not issued loose powder and bar lead and obliged to roll their own as standard practice.
But... Why would they be ordered to make their own instead of being issued it? Wasn't the whole Hindu/Muslim revolt against the British in the 19th century _because_ they were being issued paper cartridges made with cow and pig fat?
@@senseishu937 What would be easier? Transporting barrels of powdered that can be used both for cannons and guns, paper, string, and issuing an allotment of lead that can be melted by a camp fire or having to make additional industry to make the cartridges that a soldier can do for free? Even with the Chassepot, the French issued manuals to tell the soldier how to make them, as complicated as they are for use in a needle rifle. You also have to imagine that paper cartridges aren't the sturdiest things and getting them wet is a terrible thing. We can't let our modern idea of arms procurement obfuscate this. Modern cartridges are something that can be shipped around easily, paper isn't, we can see that with early matchloccks and the use of powder bandoliers (sometimes called the Twelve Apostles). I've read and heard, time and time again, that when soldiers made camp, they spent the time melting lead into molds and making cartridges. There's a few muzzleloading channels on KZhead that go into this, the daily life of soldiers as well. I know it seems weird to us now but remember, there was a time that even being issued a weapon wasn't common and you had to bring your own or improvise. Now, I'm not saying that ALL of them were made by the soldiers, some would be issued but when it came to protracted battles in the field that take days or weeks, soldiers had to make more ammunition. It's something that happened in concert with people making cartridges to be issued but this was something done near the action.
Its wonderful to see the amazement that these guys have for black powder . Its like they are suprised that it works .
its also interesting to think about this in terms of medicine it makes you realize the doctors back then knew what they were doing even a modern surgeon would look at an arm or leg wound from this and say "yeah theres no way bones are shattered, all the arteries are just ruined someone get me a saw the limb has to go" the fact they could kinda patch up the torso wounds is impressive even though there was alot of praying that went on after patching up the torso wound lol
The term you’re thinking of is hamburger. It’s even more gruesome in person.
I can't even imagine how horrific battle with these rifles and muskets were.
Imagine marching towards hundreds or thousands of men lined up in front of you ready to fire all simultaneously. That had to be terrifying. They probably just drink a whole bottle of alcohol before it and hoped for the best if they could actually find any.
And for all of this, records from the Napoleonic wars show that people were more scared of the bayonet. Bayonet charges would often cause the enemy to rout instead of even trying to repel it
@@whatfreedom7 sh**, I would. Just standing thier, praying that you don't get hit or a quick death. God almighty.
Yeeaahhh there's a reason the sites of these battles are said to be extremely spiritually charged with negative experiences. These men fucking *suffered*
@@zachsilby4569 horribly
That exploding head shows how insane flintlock warfare must have been. I mean imagine being next to guy who just got his head blown up.
After they traded fire, they would then fight to death with clubs, swords, and bayonets.
i mean that shit happens nowadays as well tho, imagine seeing ur friend get hit by a tank
And your clothes are covered in his brain and skull fragments.
The British should have brought their brown pants
@@paddypibblet846clubs? Bayonets yes, this ain’t WW1 though.
Even though its different this reminded me of one of the coolest toys I had as a kid it was a cap gun made to look like a musket that used the REALLY old paper cap strips
Would be awesome to see something like 100 flintlock rifles volley fire into a ballistic dummy
Of all the BP guns I've shot, flintlocks are the most difficult to be accurate with all because of that flash in front of your face that split second before it shoots. It takes a tremendous amount of discipline.
I'm still working on it
@@GarandThumb how many grains of powder where you shooting? I know most people around here use 80-100 for .50cal
Modern flintlocks are generally harder to shoot, because their machine made locks are slower than contemporary locks. The top quality flintlocks made by makers like Kibler and Chambers have no perceivable time between the flash in the pan and the main charge going off. My .50 cal Kibler has a faster lock time than most caplocks.
@@drewschumann1 That's what happens when artisans make firearms, mass production is good for simple parts but you need a craftsman to make something complex work flawlessly. For example double barreled rifles, turns out it's not easy to mass produce them because it's not easy to make two rifled barrels line up with a single sight without serious sacrificing accuracy which is need for big game rifles.
Like when GT lowers the muzzle to see what’s going to happen and shoots the ballistic dummy in the neck vs the side of the skull!? 😂 I’m not surprised by the ballistics at all, I think 54 cal. is probably good enough to take elk or moose - might be a minnie ball vs a round ball and a few more grains of powder but still plenty capable. If I had to guess, I suspect a few have been felled with round balls too. 😉 We saw a turkey shoot once with the paper plate on a board that swung down hill, and the sole flintlock shooter was a real contender. He said one thing flintlocks will teach you is how to keep following the target because the delay is never the same shot to shot, especially if you’re in a hurry… lol
HOLY SHIT I was not expecting the damage from that lung shot
The slow burn in combination with a big ball Guves some very interesting ballistics
You should do the 1861 Springfield next. It fires a .58 caliber conical ball and is deadly accurate at 300 yards.
I have a '63. Great rifle-musket
A p53 is accurate upto 600
Or go full boogaloo part 1 with a Whitworth. Hexagonal projectiles and accurate to 1500 yards.
If I remember right, aren't paintballs .68? That's basically shooting a metal paintball at someone... Fucking brutal.
@@JackTulsen77 yes correct. Except it's conical like a modern bullet. Absolutely devastating. There are several accounts of engagements where during the Civil War units got into a position to Fire Point Blank at one another. The conical balls would pass through the front rank and into the second-rank.
The flintlock rifle was a really big step towards new gun tech at that time!! Highly interesting
One of the things that got me into blackpowder guns is reading some book on Annie Oakley in middle school. She had a biography or something and told her whole life story about hunting squirrels with flintlocks as a kid. I remember one day I’m in class and read a part where she said she loaded too much powder and when she shot the rifle at a squirrel it knocked her on her ass. Ever since then I’ve liked black powder rifles. I like a gun that got some kick so the fact you can load a hot load or a soft load or blow your load after it’s just the perfect recoil lovers gun. No rubber recoil pads just pure blunt force in the shoulder.
I live in PA and we were famous for making early Colonial rifles. The "Kentucky" long rifle was originally made in Pa and shipped west to the Indian territories. There are still German/ Pa. Dutch guys that set up at festivals and show you how they build these. For the barrels, they put it in a jig and pull a small cutting tool through. They do this over and over until all lands and grooves match, and that's the caliber. So, in the early days the caliber could end up anything, you just cast balls to match.
I remember where I grew up, there was a place that used to be a gun factory for back during the revolutionary or civil war. I forget which. Super cool historical stuff in PA.
Calling it a Pennsylvania rifle is fine, it is the same thing. My family is in CNY and of German descent on both sides. One side moved thru into PA then CNY, the other from Canada. Former in 1700s, later in the 1800s. A family book has mentions of Pennsylvania rifles being used for hunting. When a house burned down in 1954 it is written 6 rifles were lost, 2 Pennsylvania.
not 100% true. Pennsylvania rifles were made in Pa. At that time there were many different rifles and smoothbore made. Kentucky were made in Kentucky. But I'm sure there were Pennsylvania rifles made in Virginia. And other styles made in other places. Its based on style. And some didn't have a formal name. These days the big names are Pennsylvania and Kentucky rifles. But in the 18th century there were many different types. Also most in that time were between .62 to .76 cal. But you could find anywhere between .17 to .99 cal The real reason behind patch and ball was the different sizes. You go to a store to buy balls for you .72 cal. But their biggest is .56 cal. You just used more patch for it to fit your barrel. A smart person had their own mold. That way it didn't matter. You just melt lead to make new bullets.
Pennsylvania is also the only state to allow muzzle loader hunting. Honestly one of the only reasons I still live here. I hate this state sometimes, other times I love it. Pa has more veterans than ANY other state. 8 million currently living here. We also get bossed around politically by the r*tarded cities.... Almost time for "issues" to start, and PA will be a HELLUVA ground zero to be stuck in...
@@stillcantbesilencedevennow Utah checking in. We have a muzzleloader season.
Not gonna lie...I was a little taken a back by how extremely violent those first few shots were. I wasn't expecting that much damage tbh.
The development of the American longrifle was truly a massive leap forward in small arms technology!
Good shoot. Very sharp shooter 💪. I never thought you can hit 🎯 from 100 yards. Respect
Your loading technique will eventually get better with more practice....but after decades of using a flintlock, it remains a slow process for me. Fun vid.
i am just so amazed at how destructive those old Flintlock Rifle are. That gun was doing more damage than allot of modern gun do.
Well, it's a .54 cal.
Bigger, slower bullet. Dumps all its energy immediately.
@@bad-am3805 Yep, you don’t have to worry much about over penetration.
@@historyandhorseplaying7374 only by the bone fragments flying around.
There are also many modern guns and weapon systems (such as the SIG-Sauer M250) that make a flintlock look like child's play by comparison. A pike (long spear) would actually be more effective than a flintlock for close / hand to hand combat.
Even that shoulder shot looks fatal 😳 The way those ribs absolutely shatter and break through the body is absolutely terrifying. My God.
Considering the level of medicine in the late 18th century, you probably *did* die of those. Infection is a fun time.
That shoulder shot probably decimated his subclavian artery
something to keep in mind that dummy is naked, the amount of clothing these soldiers had on did significantly slow down that ball.
@@aelitastones3110 Who asked? Go back to anime in silence
yes you would not survive getting hit in the torso or head with a musket
The delay in ignition is likely due to your lock mechanism and whether you’re using 4f priming powder or not.
I love the old Flint locks and the wick locks id just hated depending on em in battle you would have to wait 20 minutes for the smoke to clear to see if you hit your enemy lol you could use the smoke screen to make a clean get away I guess lol
it was so crazy to see how deadly any little graze from these guns are. the assessment at the beginning of “its like a mini canon” was not far off at all
Lol next step was to make it bigger
They did start as hand cannons. They became smaller in sized as armour was phased out.
Guns are basically cannons
@@aj897 and vice versa.
Keep in mind that you weren't isolated to just using lead shot. Many colonial armies at the time would improvise by ramming down coins, pebbles, glass, and nails in the event when they would run out of lead shot.
My apex gun is a .58 flint smoothie, considering I 'could' make my own powder and then load it with just about anything that would go down the barrel, knap my own flints for the lock too. Piss on regulations......
Nails would be like actual bullets
@@WaldenpunkSource?
@@dubjubshis source is that he made it the fuck up
@@stevejones69420 it was actually revealed to him by Keanu reeves in a dream
I am now really curious about rounds like 45 Colt, and 44-40, or at least similar loadings.
Something interesting here is during the Civil War, solidiers typically engaged between 100-150 yards. Seeing as how he didn't really get an accurate shot at that distance goes to show how it wasn't exactly certain death if you were on the front line.
that's where volleys came in. you typically didn't have one guy shooting at another guy. you had an entire line firing almost all at once. One of the reasons the british soldier was trained to shoot so fast was so multiple volleys could be fired in quick succession. You weren't facing one bullet, but dozens or even hundreds, while just praying you wouldn't be hit...
I’ll be honest, I’ve been a gun nut most of my life, but I never really took the time to research just how brutal these things were. When you add in the lack of medical care during that time, coupled with the fact that they had basically ZERO ballistic protection…how anyone could ever survive a shot from one of these is unbelievable.
Vice-Admiral Lord Viscount Horatio Nelson was shot on his arm during a blockade and that had to be amputated. Poor guy sacrificed his arm and one eye and finally his life (In a later battle) to literally single-handedly destroy all of Napoleon's hopes to conquer Europe. Note that admirals (Who are really loved by their men, I mean one of Nelson's men literally became his meat shield voluntarily) could not be saved by a single shot to the chest which was protected by layers of medals and clothing. It makes you comprehend how much we have progressed.
When the ships and rifles were made of wood, the men were made of steel.
Pioneers of the firearm, first muskets were made especially to shoot armoured Knights.
No amount of medical care would’ve helped your head from becoming a firework.
None of you know what your talking about
The sheer damage that these flint lock rifles made is greater than I suspected. Crazy how modern ammo is more efficient but muskets/flint locks still produce massive damage to whatever it hits. Cool video!
Bro you are literally sending a rock downrange at inhumane speeds. Go get hit with a rock that was thrown from a car going 60mph in a straight line towards you and tell me you didn’t receive mad damage 😂
Soft lead is devastating to flesh. Primitive and effective.
It's really the modern powder that doomed the flintlock guns. Modern bullets are smaller, more accurate and more powerful. The animal/person dies faster from shock and internal destruction.
@@michaelhogan9053Also, less smoke. Fog of War got it’s name from the haze of these more primitive firearms, if I recall correctly.
I have hollow-point "projectiles" for my muzzle loader. The modern muzzle loaders are pretty dope. The bullet is VERY heavy in the better ones.
50 Beowulf: I can do so much damage Flintlock: Hold my powder
Your editor is the best.
Also don’t ever load from your powder horn into your rifle unless you intend on playing the colonial version of Russian Roulette because you are essentially holding a primitive hand grenade and a single lingering ember in the barrel will travel up into that powder horn as you are pouring it causing the entire thing to ignite. Pour from the powder horn into a measure made out of brass or deer antler or something else and then pour the measure into the flintlock
This. And ALWAYS close your horn prior to firing.
@@drewschumann1 I’ve had my sleeve ignite once, guess I spilled it as I was getting the measure filled and the sparks from the pan ignited the powder on the sleeve. Always take the utmost care with BP
good to know. i’ll remember that the next time the british invade.
Wise words... bits of glowing patch are not that uncommon...although I have to say that in 30 years I have never had such an ignition occur although I always use a measure. Nor have I ever had chain fire on a percussion revolver, and I never use grease in the chamber mouths....
@@KathrynLiz1 I had a powder measure flash up in my hand this year but luckily it was only 60 grains. Also with rifles it is easier to happen than on smoothbores like a musket or trade gun gun because rifles have rifling that can easily snag a few threads from a patch and hold that ember where smoothbores don’t tend to hang onto to anything
Charlie is the definition of letting the intrusive thoughts win 😂
the unhinged things that he says. gotta love it
Comedy gold 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Chaotic neutral
Charlie is gold we need to protect him at all cost
He needs thicker glasses, to match all his "big brain" one-liners