Do bulletproof masks actually work? Ballistic test.
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Often worn to look intimidating, but do these bulletproof masks actually work? This is the question we wanted to answer with today's ballistic tests vs 22, 9mm, 45, 44 mag, 12 gauge and 308. The answer is likely what you'd expect but not for the reason you'd expect. In any case these were bought by me and not provided by any company. :)
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00:27 why this Bulletproof Masks kind of sucks
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1:57 sponsors over, setup for the test
2:38 armor level of these face masks
3:28 predictions - 22LR Pistol
3:37 predictions - Glock 17 9mm
3:47 predictions - HK USP 45 with suppressor
3:57 predictions - Korth 44 magnum revolver
4:02 predictions - Benelli M4 12 gauge 00 buckshot
4:11 predictions - FN FAL Rhodesia style 308
4:30 Armor placed upon head
5:07 TEST BEGINS 22LR Pistol vs Bulletproof Masks
6:28 Glock 17 9mm vs Bulletproof Masks
7:48 HK USP 45 vs Bulletproof Masks
9:25 Korth 44 Magnum Revolver vs Bulletproof Masks
12:20 Benelli M4 12 gauge shotgun vs Bulletproof Masks
13:23 Benelli m4 12 gauge SLUG vs Bulletproof Masks
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15:07 Rhosedian FAL 308 vs Bulletproof Masks
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hate when i get shot through the eye holes. -300k
@@Soliinu it covers eyes didnt it
@@infiniteeeeeeeee247 I died to head eyes yesterday with this mask so no it doesnt
Armor works on the eyes, your mask was penetrated@@asio5303
@@asio5303by the way my friend dies in the eyes a lot with a 6 class ballistic shield so...
I like how it tends to deflect any face shot directly into the eye socket.
That's actually a feature. Would you rather be in a coma for 10 years and wake up a vegetable or just instantly killed?
@@horrifiedbystander2150 is that a trick question?
@@horrifiedbystander2150 I would rather instantly die bro
@@horrifiedbystander2150 yes
So does the skull.
As a tarkov player I love my youtube recommendation after 2 years of the release of this vids
Same here
Yo same I'm using the mask raid rn lol
Bro this Facemaske IS busted in tarkov i fucking survied 6 shoota of m855 and next RAID a t-5000 i think with m80 straight in the face and was still alive
maybe the developers will get this on their feed and the mask will be nerfed
I'm not a doctor yet but i'm a resident and i did some rotation on traumatology Although the mask fails at the job of protecting the face and even in the lower calibers you would be incapacitated It is interesting to note that it does change the type of trauma and it greatly improves your chance of survival and recovery In a penetrative wound such as a gunshot the damage is not dealt to the point of entry it is done all throught the trajectory making a cone shape wound that is far bigger on the exit Because as the bullet looses momentum it transfers more and more energy However using this mask you would get a wound similar to blunt force trauma and the damage in that case would be far more superficial Which means that we could treat you like you had a car accident In the every day hospital it is very rare to treat a gun shot wound, especially on the head or face because usually they arrive dead if they arrive at all But someone who had a car accident is as regular as every friday night so we are more experienced to treat you In the case someone got shot in the middle of the mask with a low caliber I could send them to a cat scan search for internal bleeding and inflamation on the brain I probably would have to send you to get emergency surgery to open the back of your skull to relieve the internal pressure and give room for the brain to expand Then i'll have to realign your lower jaw and after some days get you another surgery to remove the upper jaw to replace it with a titanium bar and some dental prothesis And after several reconstructive efforts and at least 4 months of rehabilitation you would be able to go back to your life with something similar to a nose and slight brain damage Bad news you wont get to be a model but you would live (If you get treatment withing the hour of getting shot) The alternative would be not using the mask and the bullet would go straight to the brain killing you instantly Edit: wow 8 months since this comment, i got a notification and read some insightful replies i will try to answer some of them in a reply of my own. Thanks to everyone who participated in this little debate of ours
What would be interesting is the types of neck injury and Coup contrecoup injury seen in these scenario. The shield may have limited the penetration but the energy is still transferred to the wearer. With a frontal hit and hyperextension of the cervical spine, I'd wager you would see a lot of Dens fractures.
With the description of damage and recovery road, I think I'd prefer the instant death. The dead don't have to deal with the PTSD of getting shot in the face.
@@EvilPaladin11 well, i guess im bias towards living because i enjoy being alive Lets agree to disagree
where do you smoke much bs... xD
DUDE WE ARE SEEING THE OUTCOME WITH LIVE AMMUNITION EXERCISES, GO SELL YOUR FAKE CHINESE ARMOR DOWN IN SOUTH AMERICA OR SOMETHING IM SURE THEYLL BE JUST AS FORGIVING WITH YOUR MISLEADING BULLSHIT ADVICE, NO MATTER HOW SOUND YOUR TRAJECTORY EXPLANATIONS IS ITS STILL DUMB AS FUCK . ANYONE TAKING A ROUND TO THE HEAD 9 TIMES OUT OF TEN DIES NO MATTER WHAT YOU HAVE WRAPPED AROUND IT
I like to wear these when the flight attendants tell me to put on a mask. I don’t know why everyone starts screaming.
Lmao
XD
Omg 🤣🤣🤣 thank you for the💡
Best comment here. 🤣
cringe
"I can't see shit out of this fucking thing" - Garand Thumb
"I can't see shit out of this thing - Garand Thumb" - Donut Operator
Oh didn't notice you were here lmao
"Dont ask me or mine, fer nothin"- other guy
@@MeatifiedMeeting """I can't see shit out of this thing - Garand Thumb" - Donut Operator" -WetIce
@@MeatifiedMeeting “““I cant see shit out of this thing” -Garand Thumb” -Donut Operator” -WetIce”
That's the vigil mask
I can understand the PRINCIPLE they were trying to achieve. “Bulletproof” armor with a contour so that the bullet deflects off the curved surface. It’s similar to an armadillo, which if you’re shooting with a .22 you have to hit it between the bands, because the bullets will (most of the time) ricochet off the armadillo’s shell, and it’s not even made of anything as strong as this mask.
Same with turkey feathers, I've personally seen their feathers deflect arrows and shotgun slugs, it doesn't stop everything, but if you hit it just right it'll just deflect
@@Commonsenseprepssounds like jive Turkey talk
@@user-dk3zs7qm6v there is a reason they use arrowheads made to decapitate the turkey
armadillo number 1 deadly animal
Definitely not number 1, but deadlier than you think and for a completely different reason. They carry leprosy.
14:45 “You have to understand how dead you are.” -The ATF at anyone shouldering a 15.99999” barrel
Or when the agent at the gun show doesn't realize chamber length is counted in barrel length.
>get 16" barrel >file it down >15.999" barrel >profit
@@wurmturm Meanwhile in the Tax Fraud Pride camp: I have an abrasive rotary saw and you aren't my mom!
hide your dog
*does anything* ATF: 14:45
“No one cared who I was until I put on the mask” Mike “Bane” Jones
*heavy breathing*
I bet this'll be on Mike's Instagram
@@jsnow11 it is Garand Thumb’s fake name. Garand Thumb is his legal name.
@@mouthbreather280 hahahahahaha.
"If I pull that off, will you die?"
The problem with a bullet proof facemask is that it either has to be heavy duty enough that it won't deform, loose fitting enough that it can deform without injuring you... or _both._ For most people, most of the time, "not getting hit in the head" is the more practical option. A Kevlar pillowcase over your head could "stop" all kinds of rounds, just not *quickly enough.*
I would love to see you test that again with different distances :)
"We have a Korth, a $6,000 revolver for no reason..." Most honest review I've seen so far.
Heh, found a member of the "just as good" gang. If you arent willing to put at least 5k into a gun, you obviously dont value your life.
@@russellelswick7238 lol
maruhin vs korth now that's a test I want to see.
@@russellelswick7238 or you just live in a country where you don't have to bring a tool into your home that's more likely to kill yourself or a loved one (i.e. accidents, suicide, spousal violence or a child fucking about with a gun) than an intruder.
@@JulianSloman You take a wrong turn somewhere?
To the question, “what is this even used for”? Keep in mind, 2004-2006 in Iraq we didn’t have armored vehicles and were driving about in soft skin Chevy Tahoe’s. Gunners were “porcupineing “ out doors with no glass. The Well gunners and Turret gunners were a little More exposed to IED blasts but we all ate one eventually. One of my well gunners took a small piece of shrapnel right above the eyebrow. Soon, many gunners were buying face armor to protect against IED blasts. I don’t know anyone that was hit while wearing the face armor but it was popular early on. If you are on patrol or clearing buildings the armor wouldn’t work because of vision restriction, but sitting in a back seat waiting to get hit by an IED on Sadoon Street, it was practical.
This was a cool tidbit
Vietnam era-flak jackets and even many helmets today are designed to stop shrapnel, not direct gun fire. it's not nothing.
Maybe another type of face mask but this design is horrible for anything. The shape deflects projectiles straight into your eyes.
Similar to the Hail Mary that was armor in WW1. It might seem impractical from today's viewpoint but when you're in the shit you'll try anything to survive. Another good example was pilots sitting on their flak vests
Reminds me of the study that found “helmets in WWI led to a high rate of TBIs.” Well yeah, but their heads weren’t being blown off.
It'll save your life more than likely, especially at longer range engagements and not CQC. But it would be great for fragmentations and shrapnel.
Even if you survived, you’d not be able to fight,even in the best situation! Great video!
The problem with this face mask is that the centre is the same thickness as the rest of the mask and rounds naturally get deflected towards the eyes due to the contours of the mask. I think the manufacturer could learn a lot by studying medieval armour. Medieval breastplates were thicker in the centre and curved so that arrows would be deflected, they also had ridges at the top of the chest which would divert deflected arrows away from the users face. They need to make the face mask thicker in the middle and incorporate ridges to deflect rounds away from the eyeholes.
Well, they're Chinese, so whatever they make will be made in China. No matter what, made in China
@@CHRISTisKing197 makes sense then that the eyes are a lot smaller of a target
@@armaslohemadu everything made in China is very low quality. When purchasing protective equipment we should choose to do so from countries or so called philanthropists who believe that the world is overpopulated
I don't think it would help much, since your neck would be broken if shot with anything more powerful than .22
@@user-ce1cu5my4j that's why deflection (what was used in medieval helmets) matters more than thickness.
Remember guys like Clint Smith says “the problem with armor is you have to find someone competent enough to hit it” but in this case someone too competent to aim for the holes.
Or the neck, armpit, temple, femoral arteries....
Watching that .22 round deflect into the eye socket had me rolling on the floor laughing for minutes. Hahahahahahaha. I’m crying I’m laughing so hard. You just made my year. 😂
Great design choice to deflect cheek shots into the eye holes so they'll definitely do some damage. 🤣🤣
It’s never too soon for gun safety, Alec.
"Boom Roasted" - Ben Askren
Well it is for the lady he murdered.
HE SAID HE DIDNT DO IT, HATEFUL DRUMPFER
@@codiefitz3876 I feel kind of bad knowing how poorly sarcasm translates in text and how people would also unironically put those words together.
But it sure as hell was too late for him
tbh if you see this as a "protective mask" rather than "bulletproof mask" theyre quite impressive.. i mean, wearing this mask vs wearing nothing against something like shrapnel would be invaluable.
The mask literally directs all of the shratnel and bullet fragments directly into your eyes. Your eyes are a flesh hole to your brain lol.
I'd rather wear an actual helmet, though...
@@wellendowedplatypus9024 if the top was sheared off then it'd be helmet compatible. they must have some kind of adapted helmet for these in the works. definitely not meant to deflect point-blank dead-on rounds though, and should not be rated as such. definitely seems like this is more for strays and shrapnel. plus, even if a guy gets dinged by a 9mm and it shatters his jaw, hes still likely going to survive. provided the gunman doesn't walk up and finish him off.
@@attilabubby But if the situation call for a full helmet, such a helmet will always be more resilient than half-helmet + mask, even in the front (think of a motorbike helmet design but with stronger materials). If you want frontal protection, include it in the helmet, a separate mask piece will always, inherently be less effective.
@@attilabubby exactly. The guy in the video is missing a major point. Even if your jaw/nose/face are grievously injured, there’s an infinitely greater chance you’ll survive from those injuries than a bullet through the brain. That said I think the biggest issue with these masks would be limited visibility.
The thing about modern body armour is that none of it really uses the knowledge gained from ancient armour designs. Some do but very, very rarely. Medieval plate armour was designed in a way were the curvature of plates not only made things like swords and arrows deflect off the armour, the curves also made it so there were spots on your body, where there's an empty void between you and your armour. These voids were mainly located on the chest, shoulders and head. This was especially important on helmets that covered your whole head, where the front and top section never actually make contact with your skull. So if you were to take a hit that deformed your face-shield, the gap between your face and the metal makes it less likely for the deformation to reach your bone and shatter your skull. But not all armours in that time were made the same, so this mechanic varied greatly from armour set to armour set. The main point is, you don't really see this method being used in modern body armour. Modern armour is always touching your body, except for helmets. But most helmets these days rarely use face-shields, save for riot helmets and some Russian helmets. And without some gap between your chest and your armour, a vest that can stop a 50-BMG is rather redundant since it won't stop your rib-cage from shattering due to sheer kinetic trauma. Keep in mind I'm not saying a gap between you and your armour would work perfectly all the time. I just think it would be better than having a bullet resistant plate pressed right against your sternum. Or in the case of this video, right against your bloody face, where the deformation of a bullet impact sends your nasal cavity right into your fucking brain. If the mask was attached to a helmet and free floating away from your face, that would rarely happen.
Yes. I like the way you're thinking. One thing to keep in Mind though is, that the ballistics/mechanics of impact are usually dependent on the velocity of the projectile/ impactor in a very complex way. Most if not all materials (like steel (Armor)) exhibit some form of visco-elasticity which means, in most basic terms, that their hardness varies with the speed of the imparted deformation. At very high speeds (like supersonic bullet speeds and above) even solid metals can behave more like a fluid and deflection through angled impact becomes less viable/ effective. Thusly I think it wouldn't be entirely sufficient to copy many of the old principles unmodified as, of course, a swing from a poleaxe or even a shot from a powerful war bow or a musket ball will behave radically different to modern firearms and bullets. In perhaps unforseen or even counterintuitive ways even. Then again I'm sure there is a whole lot of interesting research about this, which is, of course, tax payer funded, but which none of us can ever hope of reading up about. Greetings from Germany!
Yup but medieval armor was cluncky and pretty much useless on confined spaces, wich pretty much would make it useless on modern combat.
Во многих современных бронежилетах используются КАПы (Климатико - Амортизационные Подпоры). Они выглядят как ребристая пенка для палатки и обеспечивают смягчение удара при попадании в брлнежилет пули,а так же делают возможной циркуляцию воздуха между бронежилетом и вашим телом для большего удобства.
Great video, I laughed like Vince McMahon throughout!
The funny thing about non-penetrable masks is that one's neck will be broken much faster. It's not only a matter of not allowing bullet to enter the head, but also managing the rest of delivered kinetic energy. It's why, e.g. Russian "Sphere" anti-ballistic helmets look like a lollipop with paratrooper's head inside...
We share the same concerns...!!!
No chance
EXACTLY!
> The funny thing about non-penetrable masks is that one's neck will be broken much faster. That is an old myth dating back to WW1 german helmets. You will not break your neck.
I'd rather a broken neck with a chance of survival that my head popped open like a balloon filled with jelly
The vision loss from wearing any mask is a huge detriment, but also I think face armor could be made much better.
I don't think we'll see good face armor until we develop glass strong enough to take the round but light enough to not be an issue.
Yeah, I think if there was a visored sallet style helmet made of this it could be pretty effective especially since it could use that riot helmet plexiglass stuff where the eye-slit is and not have a giant ricochet zone that sends stuff right into your eyes.
No way any mask is gonna offer enough rigidity to prevent devastating injury from the impact of any bullet over a 22 lr
Antifog is always a problem lol
Transparent aluminum would be very useful, maybe.
What are the glasses you mentioned again? Im VERY curious about those and cant find the spot where you mentioned them again?
I had a coworker that shipped separate pieces here and professionally smithed together a FAL, and I got to shoot it one time. I LOVE that rifle.
I would love to see a ballistic torso vs historic weapons. Particularly bayoneting and shooting at the same time.
Naughty.. I like it. M1897 Winchester?
You ever watch deadliest warrior a few years back on spike?
I’ve been meaning to make up some gelatin blocks and mag dump my antiques into them. Stuff like 41 Swiss, 43 Beaumont, 8mm kropatschek.
The National Museum of Health & Medicine in Maryland has a fantastic collection of civil war injuries, along with JFK's shirt, fragments of Lincoln's skull, and a plethora of other historical medical obscura. Some of it is macabre, lots of abnormal specimens.
I used to have a video of 75mle vs live pig against a wall but that drive locked up in 2008. You do not bayonet and fire at same time.
Backface deformation was actually part of how plate armor was defeated in "old world" combat, too. Dent the plate into the chest, crush ribs. Dent the helmet into the head, well...that's as good as no helmet, honestly.
It's why most common soldiers had weapons like a poleaxe, rather than a sword.
That's why I believe one thing very firmly, "BLUNT IS BEST UNGA UNGA"
@@whatshappening2115 Pluralize that and you're closer to the mark, I think.
@Turaglas 'course not, lol. But whether you're underarmored and swinging a pole, or equally set and halfswording with the "one end or the other" plan, you're gonna have to try.
actually breastplates had buldges or gaps between torso and metal plates. same for helmets, they were suspended on leather straps. You never wore metal directly against your body (when possible) plate armor was defeated by firearms and cheap soldiers with polearms and knives :) and by the way... if someone would hit a helmet so hard to cave in the steel enough, to crush the head underneath... the pure force of the blow alone would probably smash the brain against the skull in such a violent matter, that you'll die instantly anyway :)
Maybe the point is to protect from shrapnel? Or glancing shots?
02.55 great vids but i would point out that the dummy head is against the frame so will not recoil thus reducing the bullets impact at least a little ...keep up the good work guys !!
This did much better than I thought it would. The second he said “eBay” I expected the 9mm to punch through.
Same
Just keep in mind somebody could grab you by the throat and beat the s*** out of you doesn't matter if you have a mask on or not,,we all know mask dont do shit.
@@niveklor1456 its for bullets not domestic abuse bro
@@niveklor1456 there's no sign of intelligent life in your comment. Tbh dude with the mask could just headbut you, coin can flip either way wannabe tough guy.
@@niveklor1456 exactly, you can use bulletproof vest, helmet and safety boot, but keep in mind someone can just grab you by the throat and beat the shit out of you, doesn't matter if you have these thing on or off. 😂
“Because in south america, everybody and their mom has an FAL” As a Brazilian this is so spot on. It’s not uncommon to see confrontations between the police and drug trafickers with both using FALs here, this weapon is like grass here.
It grows there naturally
@@mothsareprettycool The famous Brazilian FAL trees
If you look closely at the Brazilian statue he has a fal in each hand.
I want that grass.
I'd do anything to own an FAL that easily in the US here, such a h0t rifle
The hitmarker when you smacked the head at the end😹
The look after the FAL was Hilarious 😂😂
Always just assumed that these things were meant to be more for fragmentation and intimidation than directly stopping rounds.
yup
not even intimidation, but wearing masks changes how people behave. If you want your police force to be more violent, for example, you would give them masks because of the psychological effects.
@@forty9r9r7 yeah people tend to be violent when they can’t fucking see anything
@@forty9r9r7 this commonly held belief stems from the Stanford Prison Experiment. Unfortunately, it was not a legitimate experiment. The person conducting the experiment actively got involved with it, and encouraged the prison guards to act less humanely. So we can’t know if wearing masks or mirrored glasses actually has a dehumanising effect, since the Stanford Prison Experiment is biased & unusable, and no other experiments on the topic have ever been completed.
@Andrew Ryan really? look up taiwan soldier ballistic mask
According to one Marine friend of mine that wore masks/early gen mandible armor on Humvee gun turrets in Iraq, they "work" in so much as they keep everything together so it's still possible to have an open casket funeral, but beyond that, no, masks don't work.
Tbh, I see the mandibles being pretty good for fragments and low velocity projectiles but yeah shits not gonna stop much.
They're meant for pistol ammo shot from pistol length barrels as far as I know, I'm fairly sure Iraqi army didn't run around with makarovs and glocks lol
The new mandible can stop rifles if I remember correctly. It's pretty neat.
Oh damn I just recalled a clip from a cop's bodycam where a dude in high quality body armour, one of these masks and with some diy protection for the legs and arms went nuts, stopped the traffic and was brandishing an ar (or even shooting at people?). The cop pulled over, grabbed the service rifle from the trunk, one-tapped him in the head, secured the scene. It was all over the news
@@Sk0lzky even then I'm sure it's a lot like getting smashed in the face with a sledgehammer. You're still going down, potentially permanently.
Great design lol, the mask deflects the bullets into the eyes. Even medieval armor had divets and angles to prevent that from happening.
Sounds like a very good idea to have something deflecting everything into your eye while you fight.
The masks did an impressive job, as the bullets, for the most part, didn’t actually penetrate. The shock wave, spinal and potential concussion/cerebral damage is another issue.
I do believe they hand these out in other countries for morale than anything. They show them it doesn't penetrate it and it boosts morale.
@@t.r.4496 like it can stop rocks and a club but it sure as shit ain't gonna stop your neck suddenly breaking because the force of that bullet just caused your head, namely your neck, to jerk violently at the speed of sound.
I mean, its still less damage than taking the bullet to the face, a small chance is better than no chance at all.
它的設計就防止小口徑傷害，大口徑的，足以毀滅你的頭的傷害，這面具也擋不住
There is less kinetic energy in a handgun bullet than a punch from a boxer
The back-face deformation observed when removing the mask (or most any type of armor) is less than the actual full deformation (it snaps back). This is why proper armor/helmet testing SOP/TOPs utilize temperature-conditioned and calibrated clay, with specific support, to accurately capture the event. The clay is then scanned with a laser to create a 3D solid model (similar to a CAD file), from which measurements are made. Since the clay properties, projectile before & after mass, and muzzle velocity are known and controlled for, a little math provides details such as energy delivered, and is then fed into injury prediction equations/curves that are based on further supporting testing done over the last 25 years. This is done for various thoracic/pulmonary injuries, neck, cranial, ocular, auditory, and other injury mechanisms, including ballistic and blast overpressure inputs.
Holy crap. That's a lot of science. Thank you Mr. Gorilla man
Thanks
Thank you wise gorilla
What's your conclusion, egghead?
@@f3uibeghardt522 That it is not as bad in real situations, avocadohead.
Doc. . I got a Real Bad' Headache.. it's just killin' me...😅😂
I can see this being crazy useful for shrapnel though
Using a "tactical" close range 50cal for things such as "home defense" will probably defeat them easily.
Flintlock vs faceshield? 🤔
@@dominickrueger1887 You use a Musket for home defense. I use anti material. We are not the same.
@@WonkOfWonkyness you use an anti material, i use a panzerfaust. WE are not the same.
@@dominickrueger1887 Did you forget the ü in your name? Here take it.
@@WonkOfWonkyness if i was born in germany i would happily accept your offer. However, i was born in America so i must decline.
Nothing like a dude with a lab coat telling you, “I’m a 100% sure you’ll die, if you shot in the face with this. (Holds 45)” has me dying.
I love how all the rounds deflect off the mask into the eye lol.
Idk why but you are the exact archetype of every O-3/4 I've ever worked with. You are what officers are like when they're straddling field grade. Don't know why.
Additionally, Just because armor meets standards for deformation and penetration you have to also consider force transference and trauma. Most people focus only on penetration and deflection. But depending on what your hit with the force which transfers into your body would be similar to say a 4+ story fall concentrated in a small area which you would still not walk away from. This is why trauma padding is important for dispersing force evenly. There are many people who have armor rated for say a 1 oz slug and even a .50 but with no trauma padding you could still experience internal bleeding and ruptured organs and may still die before you even see EMS. A year or so of working in the ED dealing with blunt force trauma from GSWs taught me not to skimp out. Always get the trauma padding.
Agreed just look at Medieval warfare A sword couldn't cut through breast plate armor so what did you use? A war hammer. A war hammer wasn't designed to puncture the breast plate but deliver kinetic force and damage the body. A warhammer could penetrate the armor but it was designed to kill you with the kinetic force. People in the comments aren't realize that yeah the mask might not have been penetrated but the sheer kinetic force that bullet moves at and especially the denting of the mask will kill you. Sure the KJ on the bullet is lower than the KJ of a warhammer but the damage will be done. It's your face and brain thw weakest and most vital area in your body. So yeah the mask might not let the bullet penetrate but that kinetic energy will definitely kill you. Plus the way the mask is designed the bullets get deflected into the eye which is a horrible design People in the comments don't realize that just because the bullet doesn't penetrate doesn't mean it won't kill you.
@@lifeinjersey9846 cause harm to you? Yeah. Outright kill you? Nah... The Warhammer was design to deliver kinetic force upon a person but mostly would give them a concussion or topple the horse of the opponent. It wouldn't have enough force to kill the person.
Good points. I personally haven't tried either, but I imagine having a bullet decelerate against my head would be comparable to being smacked in the head by a hammer.
I was wondering if this could work i want to develop a bulletproof mask with a layer of hyperline safe life defense armor, a layer of ceramic hexagonal flexible plate and a ultra thin layer of d3o to dissipate the force transfers,tell me what do you think please
This is why helmets have tons of padding and flimsy straps. They are designed to fly off your head.
The .22 and the 7.62 rounds going through the eye hole is interesting because in terms of medieval full face helmets with eye slots like bascinets, it was known that arrows could often be guided into the eye via the holes. The slow-mo of 22 shots makes it look like something like that happened here.
Yep it deflected straight into the eye. It was slowed way down though think I'd take a fucked eye compared to a full speed shot to the cheek?
you know, i thought the 7.62 went in the eye
Most later helmets were designed with protrusions around the eye holes to deflect the arrows away from that vulnerable area. These shitty ballistic masks are why.
Funny that you specifically mention bascinets, because the scenario you are describing is practically impossible with those. Medieval helmets actually had a lot of thought put into them, and the curves guide projectiles away from the openings. Nearly all bascinets have eye openings smaller than the diameter of an arrowhead, so it's very unlikely to get hit in the face.
@@goreobsessed2308 Really? I mean a broken orbital bone is not the end of the world. There is nothing vital directly behind the cheek.
This video is flat out awesome
how well do they work against shrapnel and if you wear 2 with in inch or 2 of spacing do they work much better?
I love how the face shield deflects projectiles *into* the eyeholes
I was about to say the same thing! Major design flaw. Even armor makers in the Middle Ages figured this out and designed their helmets to deflect blows AWAY from the eyes.
Do you like eye holes?
@@wizcorn9958 its curved in around the eye holes
@@brycealthoff8092 bruh bullets are a lot different than arrows lol. This is some cheap no name design, this isn't a premium product.
@@Gongolongo Different in some ways, but the same design principles apply. Even modern body armor is angled in a way to defect bullet fragments away from your face. This mask actually does the opposite around the eyes. My point is that the design is flawed. I wasn’t debating the low quality materials.
A literal funnel guiding bullets straight into the eye.
its shape alone is designed to deflect blows but ok , and having holes for eyes is obvious so that you can , you know , see
@@Tokii141 im pretty sure he was referring to it deflecting the .22 into the eye hole
@@Tokii141 The .22 flew right into its eye
I think it should be doable to tweak the design around the eye holes a little bit to deflect them in another direction. But who needs two eyes? Eyesight is absolutely overrated /s
@@bastiannenke9613 yeah a gen 2 with ridges around the eyes to catch deflecting rounds may be the next logical step
A steel samurai mask with some ballistic padding underneath would be more effective id reckon
if you didn't know this mask is now in escape from tarkov with a GOST 4 rating
im came back to this video just for this comment. upvote kappa
Played hockey most of my life and I can confirm with 100% accuracy that taking a fast moving projectile to your face shield/bird cage/Goalie mask...is not a "pleasant" experience... ever...
as a baseball catcher, slapped in the face by a foul ball still makes you see stars despite the mask
Those mask should have a one of those transparent face protectors, like the one riot gear uses.
@Lala does the face mask protect you from things transmitted on this site?
@@nauticatom lol
The mask looks like the first goalie masks😊
This mask looks like it's dry Kevlar. Not soaked with resin/epoxy. Makes the armor lighter but much more susceptible to backface deformation.
Best purchased in bundles on eBay
Woe woe woe, you can’t do backface anymore bro.
Yeah it’s a stupid idea lmao
@@Meekmillan damnit, made me choke on my trail mix 💀
@@Meekmillan You straight up just fucked me up for the rest of the day
5:48 the first two shots going straight into the eye. They really should've made curve that curves away from the eye.
I laughed out loud on that first shot. 😂
I love it when Flannel Daddy puts on the lab coat and sciences for us....makes my brain feel less smooth.
Labcoat adds +17 IQ easily
And the pitts Make you see atoms
Still smooth, just a little less smooth.
On Sunday mornings/afternoons my brain sometimes feels like steel wool.
But the lab coat is still open saying “I am super cereal Science, but I still want to be your friend.”
These are more used for a psychological effect. They're similar to the Samurai face masks. They provided a little protection, but were clearly more geared toward scaring the piss out of their adversaries. Imagine encountering a bunch of armor clad baddies, all wearing those. It would have a profound psychological effect on you. The thing about masks is their ability to hide visible fear. Your enemy is faceless and unsympathetic. That can be demoralizing for the enemy. There is, however, a downside. Because you're a faceless enemy, your opponent won't see you as a fellow human being. Therefore , showing you mercy is not on the itinerary.
Yeah but once you start to kill ‘em and realize how they are normal, the effect would wain.
... a balaclava would have the same effect and not be ridiculous
@@taylorbennion3706 they don't have quite the same reaction, but if you disagree I'll agree to with you.
@Real NEWS I'm sure that is true for a lot of instances, but it was and still is pretty effective
well said
meanwhile in EFT, this is one of the best face shields lol
Love it finally show the difference to the ones that don't understand
"If you're wearing a facemask, you're probably going into a situation where somebody has a FAL." Thinking about where in the world law enforcement are actually wearing these, this statement seems astonishingly true!
Can't go wrong with a FAL.
I always thought a chest-mounted face shield would be more practical if you really needed head armour. Something like a ballistic helmet visor that rises to your face but is supported by the chest plate. Turning your head would be easier without the weight.
your idea is actually kinda legit tho, you should email a ballistic company or smth
@@lewildknight9864 there is chest mounted neck armor, but chest mounted face armor would have you walking around like Darth Vader as you wouldnt be able to turn your head so its not very practical id say
@@thesadslav419 I would think you can turn your head, though your right in that movement will be hindered
@@lewildknight9864 so they can steal the idea and profit without him receiving a cent?
@@thesadslav419 I think its more akin to knigtly bevor, that would protect lower part of the face and neck. You would still be able to turn your head side to side, only looking down would be problematic.
12:39 I love the mask doesn't move but the head goes flying like a cartoon
If it really is rated to stop a 44. Magnum, do you guys know at what range? from what I can see point black getting shot with anything below 44. is just gonna straight up kill the wearer or knock them out with serious injury, and at 44. death due to severe blunt trauma. And have you carefully sourced the masks so they are not some knock of version (not that I believe they are, but just in case).
Perfectly illustrating that armor stopping a bullet and preventing you from being killed are two different things.
That that depends on the understanding you have of what impact actually is of a rifle round.. If you mitigate the sound waves or mass movement of air molecules.. then you can stop any round I know how to build it my father taught me
@@mjolnirswrath23 ....what in the word salad
@@sa-amirel-hayeed699 sound waves my friend 70% of all energy in kinetic form to push a turbine bullets, Pistons etc rockets is sound waves not thermal energy. ..
If your decibel ratings are higher than the decibels of the impact Force being applied concussion Force AKA sound waves or mass movement of air molecules of which sound is a universal binding force of all matter itself for instance the decibel ratings on the surface of the Sun are in the trillions the infrasonic frequencies of the earth that produces earthquakes in magma etc is below the human range of hearing and frequency but the decibels produced can move mountains.. My father was an electro acoustic engineer and acoustic architectural engineer who served three tours in Vietnam as ECM reconnaissance.. He also held seven us patents I actually helped him develop a hemispherical speaker driver..
Just like if I wrap a tweeter around the tip of a barrel and produce decibels higher by even 1%, then the total output of the rifle around being fired I can mitigate around 90% of the sound being produced... As I am now canceling out the sound waves now the funny part is I can do this in a below human range of hearing whereby unless you have a oscilloscope you're not going to find it or hear it but the decibels as in the molecules that I am moving in Mass will still cancel out the sound waves this is how soundwave noise cancellation technology actually works it was established as a fact of Science in 1946 by the war department and infrasonic weapons research and development.
Depending on the caliber, it could mean the difference between an open or close-casket funeral.
Well you could do an open casket either way….. just put a fresh mask on the corpse …
@@francisschweitzer8431 how do you put a mask on a headless corpse?
You should test out those clear fold down 3a helmet mounted face shields
2:19 this guy would do a GREAT villain monologue
I think that historic helmet styles might be the only solution for face protection, deflection more than actual stopage.
Yeah if you get a bullet to the face, let’s just say it’s not your lucky day. Regardless of what you’re wearing
I always expected ballistic mask to have more deflective angles , if you can get bruised or broken ribs with a vest it doesn't take much imagination to figure that a mask probably isnt gonna help a whole lot especially if you consider the whipping effect that could sever the brain spine connection.
@@tomtom7955 yeah. Pyramid Head from Silent Hill is the only way to do it right.
@@brenton9492 Yup. But there is record of police officer getting shot in the face with shotgun. He wore helmet with face protection and wallked out of the shooting alive.
@@gameboyterrorysta6307 Riot Face Shield?
5:12 Another thing with armor is that the way it's shaped affects the angle at which things fly off of it. When the projectile hits, it almost looks like the mask's own design is forcing it into the eyehole, in slow motion.
That’s because the human skull is evolutionary designed in a way to redirect blows away from the brain the brow and cheekbones protect the eye socket from blunt force trauma. Humans are a 2,000,000 year old species but recorded history is only a fraction of that time so most ware-fare for a long time was clubs bones, stone axes and hand to hand combat between our prehistoric ancestors.
@@nova8797 Okay. I was referring to the angles of the armor mask literally forcing the projectile into the eyehole, though. The angles present on ANY piece of armor affect the direction in which things are going to fly off, and the design of this mask appears like it's vulnerable to bullets being redirected into the user's eyes by the mask itself. Also, for at least several thousand of it, we wore armor, so I don't see your point, frankly.
Legit even some well made sets of medieval full plate armor have a piece lining the upper torso to prevent arrows from flying up after hitting the chest piece and striking the wearer in the face And that one piece does it's job well to an incredible degree by deflecting the arrows to the sides and otherwise away Who ever came up with this specific ballistic mask design probably doesn't know a damn thing about armor
It is from chyna... So they probably made it that way on purpose.
they vould add in ballistic glasses for the eyes.
thanks for telling them to work on the protection gang
Did they name the rouge on lighthouse after you?
I love how the contours of this thing direct the 22 shot from the cheek *directly into the eyeball* …
Everyone: Soldier's Face Armor Me: Vigil's Cloaking ability....
Same bro
Right? These things don't stop any rounds when I'm out here hiding from drones
I want to see this mask + factory standard protective glasses against birdshot
The fact the very first shot went into the eye hole made me cough I laughed so hard
I've been following Garand Thumb for the past month and I have got to say this guy makes the best content about guns. Never been really into these types of content but man this guy knows how to educate, and entertain at the same time. Keep up the good work :)
Thanks man! Trying to keep it fun
@@GarandThumb ok
Several years ago, (late 90's) we were given similar looking face shields to be worn while executing dangerous search warrants. This was after an entry team cop was shot in the face during a warrant service. These masks were much thicker than the ones you're testing appear to be. It was possible to wear it with a standard kevlar helmet if you pushed the helmet up a little and let the mask cover your forehead instead of the front part of the helmet covering it, but it wasn't a good or comfortable fit. If the straps were adjusted to hold it in place it squished your nose and the whole scheme was awkward at best. We wore them on only one entry and found out we couldn't see very much at all. We decided it was better to take our chances and be able to see what's going on around us and we sent them back to the closet.
Serpico?
@@PC-vq5ud damn that is going back a bit. I remember watching that movie when it first came out in the early 70”s.
I remember doing research and seeing the thick Kevlar masks you guys had
tactical entries using equipment that you never tested before wtf
@@chaindog82 the 90s were like that
It should work in a tactic warfare where shots are coming from longer ranger or you face the threat of deflected shards from bullets, grenades and bombs. Also I am sure you can wear customized helms with it.
What about a glancing shot? Like say youre wearing one and peek a corner and its not like a straight on shot, id be interested to see how that fairs. Could be viable in cqc
THANK YOU for the better slowmo footage. Showing it once, backing it up, and showing it again is MUCH better than before. Excellent upgrade boys.
I imagine these masks are significantly more effective against shrapnel from traps and IEDs which would explain the military usage. Explosive devices were, are, and will continue to be the biggest cause of conflict casualties by far and away. Much like when the Germans introduced the Stahlhelm in 1916 even though they were pretty thin and in no way shape or form bulletproof they reduced the number of head injuries from lateral shrapnel by 90 percent. But that begs the question "why not just wear a helmet then?" Which like yeah you would still be significantly better off with any crappy off brand kevlar. The only thing these masks have going for them is in combination with a balaclava they're pretty darn bad guy cool.
Shrapnel was my first thought as well. I think potentially they could also be useful as a psychological boost to the soldiers as well.
Shrapnel; yes, but concussive wave; no ( depending on proximity regarding IED in both instances )
@@spookite Absolutely, but close enough even a specially designed bomb suit will not save a person. Its the shrapnel that flies far and wide that injures or kills the unprotected person.
@@spookite shrapnel is what kills most often in the case of an IED though, it's what can shatter through vehicles, clothing, armor, and even walls
@@serbianspaceforce6873 depends on the type of IED and said payload of IED type.
what about some mid to longe range scenarios ? those were like pretty close range shots.
Almost all of the rounds would cause a basal skull fracture. The 22 and maybe the 9mm would be survivable. But the 12ga was brutal the amount of energy it hit with.
yeah, hard to live through even if the bullets don't penetrate
That's why you should wear a helmet with it
@@themendorean might as well envelop yourself in one of those full-body condoms from the naked gun; but made out of kevlar instead =/
guess what the three most common guns Americans buy (for home defense), the .22 (mostly in rifle form), the 12-gauge shotgun, and the .357 magnum (better range than .45, and stronger than the 9mm). Guess what country China is most likely going to have future trouble with... America. (This doesn't include the police and the armed forces)
You do understand that this was from point blank range? Agreed that this is maybe not the best solution, but it will give you some kind of protection. Helmets were introduced back to infantry war after about some 250 or something years. Body armour as in flak jackets and kevlar got reintroduced also.
PFC: 1SG, the LT is wearing a lab coat over his OCP’s and stunner shades again. 1SG: Jesus Christ…
Hard to function with shattered upper maxillary. The eyes dont work well in broken sockets.. The mask mat catch the slug, but it allows far too much centralized shock load into a small area. Shock load that needs to be dispersed out over the entire face.
Not only penetration and backface deformation. Even if both weren't an issue, the energy has to go somewhere. Would be interesting to see a g-force meter to see how much the head moves when hit.
As many people have already commented, it's kind of like those old thin steel wwI helmets, it's more for shrapnel and debris than bullets.
Just like hard hats are for bumping your head...not absorbing any kinetic energy.
Kind of pointless then since a helmet is going to stop a hell of a lot more deadly shrapnel than a forward facing mask
@@simonnachreiner8380 Surely there are, or there is the potential, to develop a helmet that can be worn with this mask.
@@CrossBreedTacoHD there are ballistic face shields that work better and provide better visibility that attach onto some helmets
@@classdpersonnel115 I understand there are other brands and designs. I'm going off the basis that this one in particular is popular out in the world (I don't actually know if that is true, that is simply the impression the video left me), ie if there is a practical application many find this mask can accomplish (like being used against shrapnel) if its prudent to do so, they can easily wear a helmet with one of these masks. Essentially making that particular criticism a moot point in my opinion.
The slogan for this mask should be “You may not survive, but you might still be able to have an open casket funeral!”
You can sum up most armor for guns, which is also incidentally the reason why we haven't gotten rid of our old guns because a bullet is still a bullet.
im a bit late but its quite obvious that if you put it up against a surface, the skull will crack up on compression. you do have a point tho seeing as to how many bullets actually pierce it. im just speaking about the ones that dont.
while a center hit might have similar results to an unarmored face, a glancing blow, like one that would take off your ear or cut a trench on along your cheek would be deflected pretty effectively.
The high speed camera is an excellent way to illustrate the energy transfer from the round, to the “armor”, to the face. Awesome.
Even though the skull got busted up, I'm still impressed by how well the mask resisted being penetrated. I really thought the 9mm was gonna go right through it
Problem with that is you may survive the shot if it goes in and out of parts of your face but this mask almost ensures you die if not from the immediate impact but from the concussion force which it seems to totally put on your whole skull!!??
@@daltiejul oh I'm not praising it's protectivity. I'm just saying that my expectations for it's durability were so excruciatingly low, that even what little it accomplished was impressive in comparison to said expectations
@@daltiejul ya, I’d chance taking a smashed mug over a threw & threw through my thinker bits, your not waking up from 99.9999% a that shit, tho you’re basically taking one a my sledgehammer swings which is absolutely definitely not recommend, tho if at all possible if I can continue to not catch any of the above? 👍🏻👍🏻 WAY ⤴️
Yeah, well you are still going to end up with a deformed face or skull. And it is highly likely you will have a broken neck. I guess the benefit you are pointing out is that a family may be able to have an open-casket funeral for whoever decides to try this out on the playing field. 😉
He said in the video it was firing hollow points. FMJ absolutely would have.
Reminds me of playing army of two back in the day 🤙🏼
You got the Ringerverse theme lol
I feel like everything below the .44 was actually fairly survivable. You're going to be knocked out and your face is going to be messed up, but it still does take a lot to kill someone, and a blunt brain injury isn't an instant death. If you were part of a police action and got popped in the face from a handgun, presumably your buddies are going to be able to drag you out and get you to a hospital. I have seen some truly gnarly face, skull, and brain injuries that people have survived. Like, if that dude was able to survive jumping off that pier and cracking his face open like the Predator on the concrete dock below it, then a smashed nose isn't going to do you in. However, if you're talking about a remote military action or solo defense, you're going lights out for everything except the .22, and that's as good as dead anyway. The other side of it is that in order to get that protection, you're suffocating inside of a sarcophagus you can't see out of, probably making you more likely to get shot in the face anyway.