M3 MacBook Air 8GB vs 16GB RAM - Apple FIXED the base model?

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Just how BAD is the base 8GB RAM M3 MacBook Air? Let's see how much the $200 upgrade helps!
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8GB vs 16GB RAM - 00:00
Ram Usage While Idle - 00:17
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Web Browser 3.0 Speed Test - 01:19
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  • THIS is the MacBook you should buy right now ($200 OFF) ➡ geni.us/qk6qhg iFixit Pro Toolkit ➡ geni.us/8qkP

    @MaxTechOfficial@MaxTechOfficial2 ай бұрын
    • I’m not clicking your referral links mate

      @MattDeezly@MattDeezlyАй бұрын
    • can u please tell the storage ssd of both the mac's ????

      @amanthakur2376@amanthakur2376Ай бұрын
    • witch one is better and why ? macbook air 16GB Ram (512GB) VS the macbook pro 8GB Ram (512GB)

      @tibo2090@tibo209018 күн бұрын
  • No modern computer should come with less than 16GB of RAM. Pushing out machines with 8GB in 2024 is like dropping a 5400RPM rotating rust drive in a desktop machine for the boot drive.

    @dragonballjiujitsu@dragonballjiujitsu2 ай бұрын
    • You can get 16gb of ram on the MacBooks.

      @bowlingdoughnutsmd3703@bowlingdoughnutsmd37032 ай бұрын
    • Tell that to every PC manufacturer, all of whom sell 8GB machines, whether it be Windows or Mac. If people didn’t buy them, none of them would sell them. If you need 16GB, buy 16GB, but don’t force your needs onto others who don’t need 16GB.

      @techinrl9869@techinrl98692 ай бұрын
    • @@bowlingdoughnutsmd3703 I'm well aware of that. Its also a custom order item that will set you back and extra $200. Again, 8GB should not even be an option. Especially considering the RAM is not user up-gradable.

      @dragonballjiujitsu@dragonballjiujitsu2 ай бұрын
    • @@techinrl9869 I am saying that to EVERY pc maker. Not just apple. The reason people buy those machines is because they are ignorant and the PCs are dirt cheap. Not because they don't "need" more RAM.

      @dragonballjiujitsu@dragonballjiujitsu2 ай бұрын
    • @@techinrl9869 - yes. Forcing people to buying a computer with a default 16GB of ram instead of 8GB is horrible. I've seen some places selling a single 8GB ram module for $28 (also seen them as low as $12), and a single 16GB ram module for $30. 100% certain a company like Apple won't be taking a bath if they sell a base level MacBook Air with 16GB of RAM at the same price as their 8GB version.

      @craigjohnchronicles2504@craigjohnchronicles25042 ай бұрын
  • There is no reason in 2024 for apple to be doing 8gb as standard, 16gb should be the new base at NO EXTRA FEE

    @JonWatkins@JonWatkins2 ай бұрын
    • Apple is not a 'gentleman' company it does not care about its customers. It only cares to make money as much as possible for its shareholders.

      @bengoey@bengoey2 ай бұрын
    • Reason: let you spend more money

      @justrandom3949@justrandom3949Ай бұрын
    • Even if you can manage 8GB you'll be in line to upgrade faster. Same thing Nvidia does with VRAM.

      @ewitte12@ewitte12Ай бұрын
    • Exactly!

      @dragonballjiujitsu@dragonballjiujitsuАй бұрын
    • Is 16gb unified memory and 256 gb storage fine?

      @paulsaha2242@paulsaha2242Ай бұрын
  • 12 should be minimum

    @favour9189@favour91892 ай бұрын
    • Yo bro... Love your dp... 🎉😂

      @MedicoDeb@MedicoDeb2 ай бұрын
    • No dout

      @GoncaloCarvalhoVlogs@GoncaloCarvalhoVlogs2 ай бұрын
    • 16

      @RolandHawlett@RolandHawlett2 ай бұрын
    • I’ve been saying this since the first M3 shipped.

      @geoffstrickler@geoffstrickler2 ай бұрын
    • @@geoffstrickleryou and a million other apple users

      @dasdos002@dasdos0022 ай бұрын
  • You have to remember that for the M1/2/3 chips, the ram shown is shared with GPU memory. So 8GB is only really around 4GB-6GB of memory for programs.

    @77dris@77dris2 ай бұрын
    • I’m waiting for all the fanboys to start yelling about it being magical unified memory which is Apple speak for “shared”

      @OShackHennessy@OShackHennessy2 ай бұрын
    • On older Intel MacBooks 13 inch GPU memory was also shared

      @dimakonstanta1868@dimakonstanta18682 ай бұрын
    • This is true of every thin and light laptop that doesn't have a dedicated GPU

      @hacob2004@hacob20042 ай бұрын
    • @@OShackHennessy Unified isn't the same as shared, AFAIK. Unified means it's incorporated with the chip to create a much faster path from CPU to RAM and back again. "Shared" indicates that the video subsystem is utilizing main RAM rather than separate, video-only memory. Not a fan boy, though anyone who conflates the two (fan boy or otherwise) doesn't know so much about computer architecture and is perhaps only educated on what Apple dictates.

      @ChromeJob@ChromeJobАй бұрын
    • @@hacob2004 except you can add more or spec it up on the front end without getting robbed, and 8gb is offensive on a Mac

      @OShackHennessy@OShackHennessyАй бұрын
  • Moral of the story: more RAM is better 😃👍

    @jeffrey3498@jeffrey34982 ай бұрын
    • And...If you must have a MacBook...avoid the Air and buy a Pro, because the cost to double your RAM puts you close to that SKU. Nice machine but a hard sell.

      @mw7967@mw79672 ай бұрын
    • Moral of the story: Enough RAM is enough, but 8GB is never enough*

      @HeavenSevenWorld@HeavenSevenWorld2 ай бұрын
    • @@HeavenSevenWorld It was in 1999 🤣

      @jeffrey3498@jeffrey34982 ай бұрын
    • 8 core CPU and 8 core gpu is good ?

      @rohitfernandes8637@rohitfernandes86372 ай бұрын
    • @@rohitfernandes8637 You’re digressing 🤣

      @jeffrey3498@jeffrey34982 ай бұрын
  • Apple just keeps making money

    @N.K.---@N.K.---2 ай бұрын
    • yes

      @solidsnakeXY810@solidsnakeXY8102 ай бұрын
    • we keep losing money

      @rohittkrr@rohittkrr2 ай бұрын
    • People should stop buying their laptops until they make base models with 16 gb ram and 500 gb storage. Sadly that probably won't happen.

      @chrispotterfan@chrispotterfanАй бұрын
  • That is exactly the type of review I needed! 16gb on my future M3 Air indeed 🙂 Thank you

    @user-ld2yq5mf8u@user-ld2yq5mf8u2 ай бұрын
  • Been waiting for this video

    @mikey9836@mikey98362 ай бұрын
  • External monitors eats from the RAM too, it should be discussed too, I use my M2 Air with a huuge monitor connected, I couldn't do many tasks properly with external monitor on 8 gigs.

    @BarisPalabiyik@BarisPalabiyik2 ай бұрын
    • 8gb with 256ssd? Or 512?

      @clintmiller88@clintmiller882 ай бұрын
    • @@clintmiller88 My m2 is 512 nd 16gb

      @BarisPalabiyik@BarisPalabiyik2 ай бұрын
    • I'm rocking a M1 Air connected to a LG 5k2k without any issues. But yeah I have a 16GB/256GB configuration

      @haselhofler@haselhofler2 ай бұрын
    • Obviously, because the M-chips have unified memory.

      @69elchupacabra69@69elchupacabra692 ай бұрын
    • m2 with 8gb and two 4k monitors without any flaws. There may be something wrong with your Mac though.

      @iBoyLPs@iBoyLPs2 ай бұрын
  • Super complete test! 🎉

    @erickauffmann_official@erickauffmann_official2 ай бұрын
    • Hey erik ....they don't do a test for fl studio .... I'm planning to buy m3 MacBook air with 24 GB Ram .... I choose air rather than pro for portability reasons ...and the form factor... Will it work???? Fir heavy edm production?

      @mayankkaushik6868@mayankkaushik68682 ай бұрын
    • @@mayankkaushik6868 yes it will! 24gb ram is enough for heavy FL production

      @erickauffmann_official@erickauffmann_official2 ай бұрын
    • 👍

      @ranjitmandal1612@ranjitmandal16122 ай бұрын
  • Wow thank you for the best video !

    @hmhyfg@hmhyfg2 ай бұрын
  • How Max Tech reads the viewers demand is amazing. Really makes me stick to one tech channel in the ocean of this niche.

    @jyotitva@jyotitva2 ай бұрын
  • Can you do the same RAM comparisons between the M1, M2 and M3 base configurations? If someone, like me, is wanting to upgrade from the M1 to M3 is it worth it since the SSD speeds are faster on the M1? Thanks and keep up the good work!

    @tipsyjack9440@tipsyjack94402 ай бұрын
  • Could you do a video comparing battery drain between browsers like Chrome vs Safari or Opera? I notice in my 14" M1 Pro that any browser other than Safari drains the battery twice as fast. Keep up the good work.

    @quikesteve@quikesteve2 ай бұрын
  • Thanks man. Clear explanation. I needed this.

    @user-gj5wb3gp1b@user-gj5wb3gp1bАй бұрын
  • That was really an educating Video Thank you far the comparison ❤

    @ZeroDay_tv@ZeroDay_tvАй бұрын
  • It’s mind-blowing that some people still excuse 8GB ram while it's so ridiculously bad just doing two things at the same time 🤦

    @DarayaVahu@DarayaVahu2 ай бұрын
    • Bit of an exaggeration there lol. 8GB runs fine for general users.

      @leebeeskee@leebeeskee2 ай бұрын
    • @@leebeeskee no it doesn’t, I had it, just with enought safari tabs and switching becomes laggy which is unacceptable for $1000 laptop, or I guess yes fine for general users on $400 laptop...

      @DarayaVahu@DarayaVahu2 ай бұрын
    • @@leebeeskee yes, 8 gigs on the silicon valley chips is not the same as 8 gigs of RAM on PC

      @miketorre16@miketorre162 ай бұрын
    • @@leebeeskeeno it doesn’t. My 8GB MacBook Pro can barely handle a lot of Safari tabs…… That’s not okay.

      @bodigames@bodigames2 ай бұрын
    • @@leebeeskee Apple has entered the chat !

      @rocketmunkey1@rocketmunkey12 ай бұрын
  • great video - would be interesting to see how much heat they were producing during those tests

    @kirkn@kirkn15 күн бұрын
  • Muchas gracias por el video Max... es JUSTAMENTE LO QUE ESTABA BUSCANDO. Necesito renovar mi Macbook Pro mid 2012 y tenia la duda sobre configurar 16ram/256 o 8ram/512... creo que ya esta mas que claro, que 16 ejecutará mejor en un par de años

    @kevinaraneda6236@kevinaraneda62362 ай бұрын
  • I don't know if this is a stupid question, but why will the mac use swap if it still has plenty of unused ram?

    @simonpoulsen4044@simonpoulsen40442 ай бұрын
  • I really liked this comparison, thank you. I wonder How does the base M3 MacBook Pro (8GB - 512GB) perform against the 16GB - 256GB M3 MacBook Air... Maybe the best SSD surpasses the extra RAM in multitasking? or Base macbook air vs base macbook pro with this test.

    @danielguzman2029@danielguzman20292 ай бұрын
  • Great video thank you!!!

    @sidzhottake@sidzhottake2 ай бұрын
  • This is an interesting result to see the significant difference. Just out of curiosity, how does the M1 Air compare to the M3 Air (at the base 8GB model for each)?

    @VideoStoryCreator@VideoStoryCreator2 ай бұрын
  • If Apple doubled the RAM in every single one of their machines across the board, on all configurations, their prices would make sense. Think about it.

    @cmoullasnet@cmoullasnet2 ай бұрын
    • Make sense for customers, no sense for Apple and investors

      @MrQuay03@MrQuay032 ай бұрын
    • You are 100% correct for the customers but if Apple shipped all products with 16GB of RAM then chances are you would be paying $100 to $200 give or take more on a product so the price it is now probably wouldn't be the price if the RAM was doubled.

      @XInfinity2024@XInfinity20242 ай бұрын
    • And doubled the SSD storage, and halved the price of upgrading the RAM and Storage, it costs Apple a tiny fraction of the cost they charge consumers !

      @rocketmunkey1@rocketmunkey12 ай бұрын
    • A big issue is the SSDs are soldered on the motherboard. You have a chip failure and there is for all intents, no way to repair them. Which forces an expensive and unanticipated expense to replace the Mac.

      @roch145@roch1452 ай бұрын
    • @@roch145 People have upgraded the storage on an iPhone and possibly a Mac them self but its only due to them knowing how to do it and make it work but also have the equipment for such work

      @XInfinity2024@XInfinity20242 ай бұрын
  • Hey man! Can you do a test with the M3 chip and Logic Pro or Pro Tools or Ableton Live?

    @HAL.2024@HAL.20242 ай бұрын
  • Great video! Question where to get those wallpapers you have. Thanks!

    @evandonoso5305@evandonoso53052 ай бұрын
    • ditto!

      @imran.online@imran.online2 ай бұрын
  • In a typical work session, I might have 10 Chrome tabs open for research and news, while doing some word processing. I might write or respond to some emails and initiate a Zoom session. I don't do much photo or video editing. A test of this use case would be interesting. I think that 8GB RAM might be acceptable here, although 12 or 16GB RAM might be preferable.

    @brachiator1@brachiator12 ай бұрын
    • My typical work day looks exactly like this. Both my 8gb on mb air and 16gb ram on Mac mini pro still swap memory and I even get low ram warning on Mac mini. I don't get it.

      @hugopineda4017@hugopineda40172 ай бұрын
  • Thanks for these reviews! Still awaiting the final verdict on the best choice when going for the air. More internal memory or more SDD; more internal memory with standard ssd vs standard memory vs more ssd test?

    @PaulErwinGroeneveld@PaulErwinGroeneveldАй бұрын
  • great comparison, thanks! I would also like to see the temperature values for these modes. It would also be interesting to make a comparison with mbp14 m1 16 GB. Now I’m choosing between these two MacBooks. I will use it for Photoshop and Lightroom

    @evgeniy_vl7273@evgeniy_vl72732 ай бұрын
  • Thank you for helping me make up my mind for my next MacBook

    @winnielai7455@winnielai7455Ай бұрын
  • Would love to see similar test between 16 and 24Gb models. How much do you have to push the 16gb for it to slow down compared to 24Gb. My 16Gb M1 is awesome :)

    @PatrickSteil@PatrickSteilАй бұрын
  • Fantastic video as always Max Tech! At 10:37 the 8Gb is faster on the Final Cut export. Is that correct? Were you still running background tasks on the 16Gb?

    @gregash6340@gregash63402 ай бұрын
    • no, its just their video editor who manages to routinely mess up the names with the results in the charts... such a shame cuz theyre the best channel for tech

      @AK-ro4gm@AK-ro4gm2 ай бұрын
    • I have also noticed that 8Gb is faster in the results at 10:37. Strange. Probably a mistake.

      @jojolaser@jojolaser2 ай бұрын
    • 😂😂😂

      @dhanushree-gz6mp@dhanushree-gz6mpАй бұрын
  • Final cut 4k HEVC with effects test, apparently you didn't notice, but your chart says the 8GB Air actually beat the 16GB. That doesn't seem likely. Maybe its mislabeled?

    @truthjunkie3@truthjunkie3Ай бұрын
  • I bought the max 24GB to future-proof it for apps getting more and more bloated. I would keep my M1 if now I could increase the RAM beyond the 8GB it came with

    @kevinclws@kevinclws2 ай бұрын
    • Have you received it yet? What are your thoughts on it?

      @m89hu@m89huАй бұрын
    • I also ordered the max 24gb on my MacBook Air order because I know that applications and the Apple Mac OS keeps growing in size.

      @davidgrisez@davidgrisez17 күн бұрын
  • This was the most helpful video I’ve watched. Been looking at reviews for well over a week and this was the game change video

    @matthewleppan1020@matthewleppan10208 күн бұрын
  • great video thanks !!

    @johnskap2004@johnskap20042 ай бұрын
  • Was expecting an SSD speed comparison between the 256GB and the 512GB. Also, Xcode tests. Cheers!

    @neocs193p@neocs193p2 ай бұрын
  • Okay, so what are the storage performance differences between 512GB and 1TB, on a system with 16GB RAM?

    @airtightbox@airtightboxАй бұрын
  • This video highlights exactly this issues I experience on my 8gb M1 Air. And why I placed an order yesterday for a 16gb M3 air. I dont do much more than photo editing and normally 20+ browser tabs. Thanks.

    @HigherTech@HigherTech2 ай бұрын
    • On my M1 i don’t seen this. Swap use - yes, but not laggy at all.

      @dimakonstanta1868@dimakonstanta18682 ай бұрын
    • @@dimakonstanta1868never with 8gb?

      @ChromaSup@ChromaSupАй бұрын
    • @@ChromaSup yes, but I’m not heavy user

      @dimakonstanta1868@dimakonstanta1868Ай бұрын
  • Really Nice vidéo!! And for Logic Pro x ?

    @yannjouan9338@yannjouan93382 ай бұрын
    • probably the 24gb

      @m89hu@m89huАй бұрын
  • Are there any significant performance differences between the 13' and 15' models?

    @LL-qm3sl@LL-qm3sl2 ай бұрын
  • Just curious - What is the benefit of using Chrome over Safari? I thought that Safari was more efficient but I also know that Chrome is more of a "standard" and has support for more extensions. Would love to hear the Max take...

    @EnglishinTx@EnglishinTx2 ай бұрын
  • That 5GB used when opening up includes >3GB of pre-fetched cache. The system will release that when needed so that 3GB is effectively available.

    @ahaimes6320@ahaimes63202 ай бұрын
    • Exactly. Do free -h from a terminal and you should get more details

      @isbestlizard@isbestlizard2 ай бұрын
    • yeah that number doesn't mean much; the memory pressure; compressed memory and swap size give you all the indication you need. it's a shame because some people assume "oh my mac has nothing running and I'm already out" but macos will use all the ram it can. You get a perf bonus with 16GB but it will take a lot for a 8GB model to grind to a halt.

      @valdir7426@valdir74262 ай бұрын
    • 😮

      @ranjitmandal1612@ranjitmandal16122 ай бұрын
    • Yeah so many of these reviews are really frustrating when they talk about this. I honestly can't believe how many popular tech reviewers / news outlets / etc use the amount of memory used at startup "at rest" as their first point to drive home how little memory is available. Why not use the memory if it's available to optimize, if the memory is just sitting empty / unused it's being "wasted."

      @shoelessone@shoelessone25 күн бұрын
  • Would be interesting to see the performance differences in using Xcode and compiling the same project or so, but great job anyways 👌☺️

    @DieBaertigeUrsula@DieBaertigeUrsulaАй бұрын
  • Awesome video was wondering if you could do one with the 24 gb ram to see the difference for the air for all 3.

    @its_2Slick@its_2SlickАй бұрын
  • I have an old 2018 Air that had 8g 128g config. Just recently I bought a 16g 512g logic board from ebay, swapped the boards, sold the old 8g board for roughly $10 less than the 16g board. It’s running Sonoma with almost NO swap. Sonoma is very heavy and absolutely not optimized for intel macs, yet, the 16g ram is making a huge difference. I’ll buy a new Air when the base gets atleast 12g ram.

    @ashiq_r@ashiq_r2 ай бұрын
  • Hi Max, could you please do a test between base m3 macbook pro vs 16gb m3 macbook Air? That would help me a lot in the decision. I'm looking for benchmark comparison like : Cinebench, 3d mark wildlife, geekbench and blackmagic. Thanks in advance 🖤

    @Akshaydesai28@Akshaydesai282 ай бұрын
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    2 ай бұрын
  • Didn't they fix the SSD speed issues as well? Could the new M3 be benefitting from speed, by not only the ram, but the ssd speeds?

    @Wonder_Wicks@Wonder_Wicks2 ай бұрын
  • just curious, do most people that buy a macbook air use these programs? Most people will run chrome tabs, which make no difference, and maybe play a game or a movie. Unless 8gb is not enough to do these tasks the ram deficiency won't be noticeable. I don't think there's many people that buy a macbook air to do video editing.

    @geolykos@geolykosАй бұрын
    • I've been able to run my 8GB MBA M2 into yellow and red memory pressure just running Chrome, and some Apple apps (Safari, Notes, Freeform). Though I have Google Drive, 1Password, Logitech Options+ running in the background on login. Yes, MaxTech's demo with CPU intensive apps is a quick shortcut to illustrating the deficiencies, but you might repeat this test with just "lite" Apple apps. I've done it.

      @ChromeJob@ChromeJobАй бұрын
  • Have to agree here, though for different reasons. I've been test driving M2 MBAs from Costco, both with 8GB/256GB. I much prefer the 15" for the huge trackpad, expansive screen and … on that second, using the 15” in Sidecar mode (extending a desktop display to use the 15” MBA’s screen) is great for flexibility. (And using Handoff, you can pick up the MBA and continue working elsewhere.) In these cases, having a pliable and dynamic level of available RAM pays off. 8GB just ain’t enough for macOS Sonoma. Even without doing CPU intensive stuff like photo, video, or rendering work like you illustrated, I’ve seen the 8GB RAM MBAs start to slow down and swap out with 5-6 apps open with work in progress (and not even using MS Office apps, just Safari, Chrome, Notes, Reminders, Messages, Freeform). This is unacceptable to me for a $1300 computer (bought for $1000 at Costco, a killer deal but a still cool grand). I’ve noticed that macOS is slow to release swapping and return to an ideal memory management situation after closing apps, even letting some time go by. It’s helped a little by logging out and back in (leveraging the “reopen windows” option), but not as effectively as restarting the laptop. When an OS gets to a point that I have to restart the machine to get the memory allocation sweet spot, no matter how speedily it does this, I’m not a happy user. This might be slightly more exacerbated by the 15” screen’s greater resolution, but I don’t sympathize. A laptop should be able to handle itself gracefully, not start limping along after an hour’s work in 6 apps. Apple should be ashamed that they sell entry level MacBooks in 2023, 2024 with only 8GB RAM when you can buy a much more agile Chromebook for half the price.

    @ChromeJob@ChromeJobАй бұрын
  • Could we have a similar comparison with an M3 Air with 24Gb RAM, in gaming, where the shared RAM for the GPU could be rate-limiting, even at 16Gb?

    @dsmith5940@dsmith5940Ай бұрын
  • Great video thanks! I guess it comes down to MacBook Pro M3 14" 16GB/512GB (discounted) vs MacBook Air 13" M3 16GB/512GB.

    @snitkjaer@snitkjaer2 ай бұрын
  • 8gb in 2024 is a joke.

    @LeChuck.x17@LeChuck.x17Ай бұрын
    • Exactly

      @dragonballjiujitsu@dragonballjiujitsuАй бұрын
    • A bad joke.

      @alexanderelgert6037@alexanderelgert603722 күн бұрын
  • Nice viedo, thank you

    @fidiak@fidiakАй бұрын
  • Excellent content

    @user-pp3dl8id7r@user-pp3dl8id7r2 ай бұрын
  • Glad to hear they fixed the SSD problem, which will help with swap speeds. I do my "heavy lifting" and most work with a 16GB Mac Mini, which never leaves the "green" memory pressure, so for occasional portable work, I'm leaning towards the 8GB MBA model with the following justification: the upgrade to 16 GB costs about 20% of the price. In other words, if I replace it after about 5-6 years (roughly), then if I save the 20%, I can replace it about a year earlier. But thank you for your video; I will be sure to test it well (within the 2-week return window) for my use case and make sure there's a margin to allow for 4-5 years of use.

    @joewest9470@joewest94702 ай бұрын
    • Thank you, this is the most sensible take on this question. Others here just scream nonsense about unrealistic use cases and exaggerated "issues". Heavy users buy Pro 14-16 as their main machines (if they want a laptop) or Mac Mini/Studio, and use MBA as a portable complementary device, and don't complain. Poor "wannabe professionals" buy base MBA as their only machine and then whine about 8Gb RAM, this is just pathetic

      @vlkhvan@vlkhvanАй бұрын
  • How does the M3 MacBook Air with 16 GB compare to the M2 MacBook Air with 16 GB? I currently have the latter with 1T storage and everything I’ve seen says to not upgrade. Is the M3 that much better than the M2?

    @rhondacaulder1432@rhondacaulder14322 ай бұрын
  • How is it with M1 Macs now? The videos testing them are all three years ago, with apps unoptimised for Apple silicon.

    @fanz6410@fanz641010 күн бұрын
  • thanks for video

    @onuronan8674@onuronan86742 ай бұрын
  • Nice video comparison

    @murtazachaudhary3339@murtazachaudhary33392 ай бұрын
  • I am a user who buys a Mac / Macbook to last for 7+ years so I usually always buy double and triple of what the base configuration might be at the time of purchase. With my MacBook Air mid 2012 seeing a replacement this spring/summer I will go for the 24GB option.

    @achim7234@achim72342 ай бұрын
    • If you have enough to do it it´s fine but most people can´t afford it. 16gb Ram 512 SSD should be the base configuration.

      @nicolasb.henry294@nicolasb.henry2942 ай бұрын
    • with the same amount you could probably get 2 more basic machines every 4 years. plus your machine will not be worth much compared to what you paid it on the resale market.

      @valdir7426@valdir74262 ай бұрын
    • I am most likely non representative of a user for this KZhead channel. You guys are hardcore techies and you know so much more about tech/Mac than I ever will. I, maybe like many others (????), don't want to think about buying the latest, best, best bang for the buck technology piece, but we buy when we have to (like in my case the 2012 MBA giving me grieve), so then I go and buy something that hopefully covers me for another 10 years. Given my age, I even don´t know if I will ever need to buy a new Macbook again after the new M3 MBA. @@valdir7426

      @achim7234@achim72342 ай бұрын
    • I’m doing the same thing except 7 years of primary use and 3 years of auxiliary use (giving to my daughter to use for school). I broke down the cost to a monthly basis excluding depreciation and compared it to windows laptops. They usually only last me 2-4 years before breaking or becoming unusable and it turned out to be cheaper by around $8 a month to buy the Mac air compared to a comparable windows laptop (which is 1/3 cheaper)

      @user-mn7hy1hd1w@user-mn7hy1hd1w2 ай бұрын
    • No offense man, but your purchasing strategy is kinda foolish depending on whether I"m assessing your usage correctly. Look I'm also a MARATHON user of Macs. My last Macbook was a 2015 MacBook Pro that I begrudgingly replaced because my cats broke it a couple weeks ago. I replaced it with M1 Pro MBP in base config. Considering you have been using a 2012 Air for a decade, you seem like a pretty low scale user. Try to slow down and think about what you are actually saying here. You are trying to PREDICT THE FUTURE of computers with YOUR WALLET, and not in a way that would actually make you money, like the stock market or any other investment. You are just mindlessly future proofing your devices instead of actually asking yourself "how much ram and storage do I actually need and what I will need". You would save considerably more money buying a machine with reasonable specs or especially just buying a used machine like an M1 Pro that comes with 16gb and 512gb storage standard. And then even if you upgrade it in like 5-6 years, you'll still save much more money buying external drives or just buying a newer machine with more ram as standard in the future.

      @burtdanams4426@burtdanams44262 ай бұрын
  • Takiego porówna potrzebowałem. Dzięki. :)

    @AdamsjPriah@AdamsjPriah14 күн бұрын
  • Thanks Max for this video. It confirmed I need to buy the Mac Air M3 16Gb RAM.

    @stevebooth@stevebooth2 ай бұрын
  • I edit 4k videos and use a lot of chrome tabs, and I never felt like my M1 Macbook Air was slow. The system and apps are very well optmized.. I have a windows PC with 32gb, 13600k, 4060ti, and barely use it

    @Musescore_Brasil@Musescore_Brasil2 ай бұрын
    • M1 with 8gb?

      @ChromaSup@ChromaSupАй бұрын
  • If the MBA M3 16GB supports full acceleration with Lightroom, then the MBP M3 16GB should support that too, correct?

    @sebasguti7708@sebasguti7708Ай бұрын
  • I would first like to say I very much enjoy your channel! it's very detialed and made with a lot of heart. Honestly, your channel was the reason why I pulled the trigger on the 14in MBP M3 max. Upgrading from windows i7 11th gen, its fantastic. After owning it for a week, I'm thinking of upgrading further into the 16in MBP m3 MAX justify the extra cost to the larger screen and battery but primarily for the extra ram. (48 GB) and the 40 core vs the current 30 core. While I was on my 14inch MBP, I checked the used ram and just with 6-7 google chrome tab open, (no videos) 1 firefox tab open and Microsoft word document, I was already into 22GB out the 36GB ram. I'm nervous of performance with that plus 2-3 hours of Zoom (full-time online student). I was reading that mac IOS is ram hungry, and no matter how much ram is available, It would be the same situation. I'm curious to hear your thoughts on this.

    @gc2141@gc21412 ай бұрын
  • I am just confused between the Air M3 and the Pro M3 as after we spec out the air with good storage and memory, it’s almost same priced as the pro M3…. and I also need a laptop for years to come atleast 6 to 7 years minimum.

    @novellad8485@novellad8485Ай бұрын
  • I just ordered a new Air and opted for the 24 GB of RAM. Hopefully it’s not overkill but I expect the machine to be quite speedy. 😊

    @kevinasaurus@kevinasaurus2 ай бұрын
    • Have you received it yet? What are your thoughts?

      @m89hu@m89huАй бұрын
  • hey can you make a video about m3 air 16 gb vs macbook pro m3 base variant(8 gb)

    @subhamcoder@subhamcoder2 ай бұрын
  • So it looks like it can be okay for casual single-task use. For some, that’s enough. I never liked the base RAM config since it’s not upgradable and that’s a shame. When I bought my original M1 MB-Air, I bought it with the max 16Gb RAM because I knew I would also be occasionally running Parallels (which is does quite well). My M1 Max MBP with 64Gb runs Mac/Win/and Linux. Three finger swiping between them, like having three computers in one. Thing is a beast. Since Apple’s transition to their own silicon, I don’t feel as complelled to focus on only the latest and greatest anymore, as devices from a generation or even two back are still very capable at an appreciable discount over current gen machines.

    @eticketride@eticketrideАй бұрын
  • Excellent video.. do you have a video of an m2 16gb vs a m3 16gb? I could save a few hundred dollars on the M2 buying used/renewed. If it's somewhat significant I wouldn't mind spending the extra money.. if it's 5 percent or so I would definitely go with the M2

    @tri0xin@tri0xin2 ай бұрын
  • I think a good idea would be to discuss how Dynamic Caching might be playing into this test, given that it’s a new feature of the M3 series.

    @The1Weapon@The1Weapon2 ай бұрын
    • Good point !! Yes, should compare M2 8GB with M3 8GB

      @kinkiyayoutubization@kinkiyayoutubization2 ай бұрын
  • amazing test

    @danielguzman2029@danielguzman20292 ай бұрын
  • I can see the difference. However for folks that have the M2 and do regular task or for personal use, and not for pic editing or video editing. I don’t see why to upgrade. Maybe upgrade after 2 years if needed but I wouldn’t. This comparison is good for those heavy workloads that some do.

    @1956mercy@1956mercy2 ай бұрын
    • Based on your description, you probably wouldn’t need a new computer for eight or ten years. I had the first MBP with SSD drive (2012?) and I just replaced it when the SSD failed.😅

      @Bakapooru@BakapooruАй бұрын
    • @@Bakapooru you have a point there. I had a 2011 MBP that I didn't replace until 2020, just before the M1 chips dropped. I used it for research, school work, Netflix, shopping, and general browsing. When my current one goes out, I'll likely buy an Air to replace it. I don't think I'll get another Pro. I just don't run them nearly hard enough to warrant the expense.

      @brandonchism6960@brandonchism6960Ай бұрын
  • good job :) I wanna buy my 1st MacBook Air 13 M3 512GB. I think about ram 16 gb. I wanna actual model for 5-7 years. I don't like change a laptop often. I would like waching movies and tv series, learn English, play online poker (up 6 tables), youtube ... any recomendations about 16 gb or 8 gb.

    @vivalasvegas297@vivalasvegas297Ай бұрын
  • Thanks nice video

    @babylonghost@babylonghostАй бұрын
  • Another factor to consider is that with this system on a chip design, memory is no longer upgradeable. It is this and the fact that over time the Apple Mac OS keeps getting more features added and the operating system gets larger that when I ordered the M3 fifteen inch MacBook Air I ordered it with the 24gb of memory which is the maximum for this machine. I do not want limited memory that can never be upgraded slowing down the computer.

    @davidgrisez@davidgrisez17 күн бұрын
  • Tengo una mac mini m1 base model, yo tenia 2 monitores, un ultrawide y otro menor a FullHD, los cambié por dos 4K, desde que los cambié note demasiado que la mac se traba y se pone lenta :C

    @epaulgr@epaulgr2 ай бұрын
  • I assume the graph at 10:35 is a typo and the 8GB wasn't actually better than the 16GB ?

    @AyaWetts@AyaWetts2 ай бұрын
  • Which MBA should I pick between M2 16/256 $1,400 vs M3 8/256 $1,200 ? Mainly for illustration in Ps and light AE stuff

    @microzal@microzalАй бұрын
  • I bought the 2021 iMac 24" during the pandemic and unless during the time you wanted to wait up to 3 months to get a iMac with 16gigs you would either wait that long, or just take the 8gig option. I did get 512 and stayed away from the base model for sure! I guess in 5 or so years it will be time to upgrade my iMac with I hope a system that can actually play real games and either sell this one off, or use it for something else? I think Apple is getting better all the time and after all these years is finally getting into real games for the 1st time ever where the iPhone 15 Pro and Pro Max can do. I hope the bluetooth to a larger screen doesn't kill the performance because playing anything close to real console game the iPhone even the Max is way too dang small. Thank you for the video, Max!

    @saintkenny9296@saintkenny92962 ай бұрын
  • So, 16gb RAM is worth the upgrade cost, according to Max and many of your comments. Is there a benefit to upgrade further to 24gb RAM? For average users or just power users? What kinds of workflows would really benefit from having 24gb over 16gb RAM?

    @rc2257@rc22572 ай бұрын
  • Hey i want to buy a laptop for video editing, Im planning to get MacBook air m3 (8-256) and 2tb external ssd Will this be enough for editing lengthy podcast videos and 4k videos.. Please suggest

    @Gaurang_Khatri@Gaurang_KhatriАй бұрын
  • What's the app you use to measure CPU and GPU usage at the top bar?

    @terrencechu7479@terrencechu7479Ай бұрын
    • Same I would like to know this as well

      @smoovedave@smoovedaveАй бұрын
  • Bro seriously I was searching this type of comparison seens "Macbook M3 air's" launcher❤ and i finally got it. You gain a subscriber.

    @frivis69@frivis692 ай бұрын
    • well, I wouldn't recommend subscribing to this guy for very long. He's kind of a normal person with no real formal education about computers and who doesn't actually know basically anything at all about the fundamentals of computers, including chip design, memory management, operating systems, etc. He's just a normal dude that happens to have been able to afford reviewing products at one point and now all he does is make bland comparisons between mass market products without any insight

      @burtdanams4426@burtdanams44262 ай бұрын
    • @@burtdanams4426 ooh really, then suggest me some

      @frivis69@frivis69Ай бұрын
  • So where does Apple get 8g ram in 2024? Do they have a time machine?

    @hondo_chen@hondo_chen2 ай бұрын
  • Good video. Now I know that I would never have a problem or slow down on my M3 because I would never do as many stressful tasks at the same time. All this hype of 8gb isn’t enough doesn’t concern me.

    @Bakapooru@BakapooruАй бұрын
  • Did it heat up during multitasking ?

    @shubhamchauhan4817@shubhamchauhan4817Ай бұрын
  • Doesn't answer my question. What if my only multitasking is switching between Video Player and 400 tabs opened in several groups in Safari? 8Gb is or not enough for that?

    @ramonmako4923@ramonmako492312 күн бұрын
  • For M3 Air 13” is it worth going for 24gb ram or 16gb enough ?

    @GurmeetSingh-fr8uo@GurmeetSingh-fr8uo2 ай бұрын
  • 6:49 you opened the minimized window vs you tapped on the window to make it the front layer.

    @losermonkey666@losermonkey6662 ай бұрын
  • Could you compare MacBook Pro 8 ram and MacBook Air 16 ram?

    @marianmalpica3419@marianmalpica34192 ай бұрын
  • I would like to see the difference in performance with 24GB and a 1TB SSD.

    @whfowle@whfowle2 ай бұрын
    • I agree. This is the configuration that I am considering (mainly for future proofing), but none of the videos really mention it.

      @reconshaun@reconshaun2 ай бұрын
    • I just ordered this config but mostly be a use I keep my Mac’s for 5+ years. My wife’s m1 with 16 and 1 tb is already maxing out the ram.

      @davetravels9273@davetravels92732 ай бұрын
    • The difference between 16gb and 24gb Ram is marginal if not inexistent. He made a video comparing a 16gb vs 32gb of ram on his channel go search for it, there's basically no difference for anything beyond 16gb unless you're a super hardcore user that needs to render 3d and have photoshop/lightroom/after efects open all at the same time@@reconshaun

      @weekendintokyo@weekendintokyo2 ай бұрын
    • Does SSD really matters? I can have an external storage device.

      @paulsaha2242@paulsaha2242Ай бұрын
    • @@paulsaha2242 well you should ensure that you have plenty of space for memory swap in addition to everything else you store on the device. Generally you want to only use 60-80% of your SSD.

      @davetravels9273@davetravels9273Ай бұрын
  • thanks but why final cut pro? Most of the pros don't uses Finalcut anymore:(

    @ozgurutku@ozgurutku2 ай бұрын
  • For my work (large data analysis) even my m3max with 64gb memory uses sometimes swap.

    @Superbus753@Superbus7532 ай бұрын
  • That’s why I ordered mine with 24GB Reason is my current 2014 MacBook Pro has 16, so just to feel that upgrade.

    @platinoir@platinoir2 ай бұрын
    • Have you received it yet? What are your thoughts on it?

      @m89hu@m89huАй бұрын
    • @@m89hu it’s really good & buttery smooth. But I would say 24GB is overkill, just like my 16GB I never got close to running out of memory

      @platinoir@platinoirАй бұрын
  • I am in the process of purchasing a new laptop. I came quicly to realization to spend as much as the budget permits I think you want to future proof as much as you can depending on what type of work you are using it. For my photography, i simply can't be parsimonious. Great video.

    @BP-xe7dw@BP-xe7dw2 ай бұрын
    • What did you decide on? I am currently looking to buy a new laptop. I am a Windows user and I need a laptop for general use and light photo editing.

      @aspiring...@aspiring...Ай бұрын
    • @@aspiring... I will go with Macbook pro 24ram . The refurbished section of Apple seems to be the best deal. Unless of course, there is another discount that comes along. I am heavy on photo editing, semi professional, both lightroom and photoshop. I have been windows user at work all my life, at home I have I mac, that is now 10 years old. It has been perfect and the apple support has been great up to this point. Photoshop and Lightroom are optimized for Apple products. I never had any issue with it. In your case, you might want to look at macbook air, they have great deals right now. It would be more than sufficient There is a learning curve in terms of OS. Once you get used to it. Hard to go back. Hope that helps.

      @BP-xe7dw@BP-xe7dwАй бұрын
  • I bought a M2 air last year with only 8GB as a test to see I it was going to be enough. The longer I have it the more comfortable I’m getting with the amount of Ram. I was going to get a separate machine to run a Linux distro on but then I said screw it, I’ll try it on the M2. You know what, it works. Im running Kali using the UTM VM with 4GB of the 8 allocated to the VM. Sure I’m using some swap, but there are no slowdowns or crashes. Everything is working fine. I’m probably not going to get another 8GB machine again, but I can say that it works with no issues if I don’t have everything in the world open on MacOS while the VM is running. So my conclusion is that 8GB will do the job. I would feel better with 12GB but so far no problem having a few things open on Mac while also getting PCACPs in wireshark or using the aircrack suite at the same time.

    @mendodsoregonbackroads6632@mendodsoregonbackroads66322 ай бұрын
    • You stuffed up 😅😅

      @La_Meth_Witch@La_Meth_Witch2 ай бұрын
    • Yeah, I have an air 8gb M1 that my work provides for office tasks (maybe 10-15 Google tabs, slack, VOIP) running all at once switching btw them. 8 hour days no issues for these types of tasks. For creative stuff I have a top spec baseline M3 16 with 48gb ram. For everyday stuff and office stuff - I dont see a difference. I'm not trying to do lightroom + 15 tabs on my air (mainly cause its the jobs comp and not mine) but in real world usage for 40 hours a week its been fine.

      @justinavila1320@justinavila132025 күн бұрын
    • I love all the "you need at least blah blah" and yet these same people are NOT having to use the 8gb machines, they've skipped over them.

      @justinavila1320@justinavila132025 күн бұрын
    • @@justinavila1320 Well, I'm using both. and 8GB will work, but 16GB is better.

      @mendodsoregonbackroads6632@mendodsoregonbackroads663225 күн бұрын
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