Stefan Borson and Simon Jordan EXPLAIN How Points Deductions For Everton & Forest Will Play Out 😱🚨
2024 ж. 20 Мам.
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Football finance expert Stefan Borson explains the latest on the Profit and Sustainability Rules and what this means for clubs like Everton, Nottingham Forest and Chelsea.
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Stefan should be in this show every day
I find Stefan fascinating, I'm really interested in what he says.
He's a knowledgable guy but disengenuous when talking about City.
FFP is why I fell in love with football as a kid
Ever since the PL was founded and Sky started broadcasting, money has dominated the game. Sums involved have increased exponentially and now pretty much determine a team's league position.
Love the way Simon shuts up when someone knows what they are talking about Take it in Yet tomorrow all anti Mcfc Blah blah blah
That's because he's an adult.
It's called listening and learning, you should try it some time
Very interesting, alot of these fine details need to be individually explored some more as they pertain to Everton, Nottingham Forest, Chelsea and Manchester City. Same for the rules and regulations (similarities, differences, agents' or third party fees, selling tranferable assests within the group) in the EFL, PL, UEFA/FIFA.
Can’t get enough of this detail
Should have brought on Johnson for Cresswell at 60 minutes. Could have then brought on Cornet earlier
Weird they don’t talk about any of the inconsistencies. One saying Usmano v was a mitigation and one wasn’t
Sir Jordanite = Top LAD Proper Clobber 💯 Facts
I say scrap and let teams spend what they want
If you're interested in more detail of Everton's current financial situation listen to the latest episode of the Price of Football, sounds a perilous position.
Meanwhile nothing gets mentioned about the elephant in the room
Everyone is wising up to the increasing likelihood that the Prem 100% fumbled the City charges in desperation to stave off government oversight and didn't REALLY have the case against City (and all the third-parties implicated in the City charges) which they could sufficiently prove. The Prem over-extended, City may still be held to account in some way, but nothing close to the scale of the initial charges.
Where?
The whole FFP issue is a complete load of hogwash - let the clubs go bankrupt and put processes in place to handle that situation - this all came about because the top 6 clubs wanted a closed shop - e.g. Newcastle is one of the richest clubs but cannot spend the money
Waaaaahhhh!!!!!!!!
City fans were saying this 10 years ago but none of the smaller clubs fans listened. Reap what you sow
Simon was right, the solution is a luxury tax on big spending clubs. You can do whatever, but you’ll be hit with financial penalties that end up subsidizing everyone else not paying the tax.
Yet Newcastle fans moaned for years about the greedy six. Now they want to join them
@@citysouthstandlad 10 years ago City was already starting to rack up FFP charges... TF you on about?!?
Fractional points would be the nail in the coffin for me. Im already scoping out bundesliga, the prem has lost its luster.
Well, there’s an easy way to fix it.. don’t turn up to the games! If we don’t pay they won’t GET payed..
A fraction of a point serves the exact same purpose as a full point
Not necessarily - removes the importance of goal difference for a team below them.
Leicester are cracking up lately. Either they go up or they end up in league 1 or league 2 soon like Leeds, Portsmouth, Sunderland etc. Same thing with Chelsea in a few years time if there's true justice. But IMO the league won't have the balls to punish them and Man City accordingly
Should be able to increase the deductions.
id like to hear his thoughts on where Leeds stand in regards to suing forest, everton or the league ??
Doubtful that they will if theyre set to fail themselves this season. It would be opening up the door for them to get sued by Ipswich etc in the future.
How many times do people have to tell u fools u can't sue other clubs because you signed up to the rules of the premier League is this hard for u to understand or are u just stupid.
@@irieite9666 leeds are not set to fail at all ! and also this is in regards to leeds being relegated at the hands of everton and forest cheating mainly !
@@yeboha If Leeds get promoted their squad earn 20 million between them in bonuses putting them over the FFP limit and costing them a points deduction next season. So lets say Leeds finish top 2.... Ipswich finish 3rd and stay in Championship. Leeds by suing if successful would be opening themselves up to get sued by Ipswich or other Championship teams from this season who played by the rules but didn't get promoted.
@@irieite9666 leeds wont breach the rules so what you are saying is irrelevant
The money Leicester for the players they sold, how can they be in breach of PSR. League only started looking at PSR becuse forest spent loads of money and managed to stay up
Because it's not just transfer fees it's wages aswell. Also selling a player only counts for that season. Amortisation means buying a player counts over the length of the contract.
Because they play in the championship with the 7th highest wage salary in England, Premier league included.
Turn down the booking of the volume levels of the jingle at the end, for crying out loud!!!!!!
It’s getting silly now
For those who think its heavy, watch a cartoon, excellent topic
A fraction of a point sounds insane, especially if it decides the fate of Clubs. It's a laughable situation.
Agreed. The only way it should EVER be considered if its between two clubs who have both broken rules i.e. Everton and Forest end up on the same points and are in 18th and 17th place respectively then the fractional point is the decider between the two. The mere suggestion that either team could stay up by 0.1 point over a team that has complied to the rules is laughable
When will the 115ers be held to account between 2013-2018? Relegation, all titles scrubbed and $1bn fine?
They’re not guilty so don’t cry to much when found innocent
@@bobofett3966you are deluded!
Yawn. Most people know that won't happen.. well most people with a element of intelligence. Clearly not something you have acquired ..
@@ddmkthfc8555you are deluded
@@bobofett3966😂😂😂😂😂 plastic city fan.
There is far too much uncertainty in FFP. Who wrote the rules, Mickey Mouse?
And Donald Duck !😂😂😂😂😂😂 But Seriously it is Getting Ridiculous!
The 20 clubs.
115
And Man City carry on its merry way
Coz its completely different from Evertons charge and City didn't admit it like Everton did, so keep up pal 👍
So if City are found guilty, they will be hit with a massive charge as they will have not admitted any guilt and will not have been good little boys to the premier league.
@Graeme726 and when they are found not guilty like all the experts have said as its impossible to prove, you'll cry like a naughty little boy 😭
UFEA, one word PSG
Shambles
That would be so stupid if they give back a "half point" 😂
Gents please discuss the merits of bringing the American system in / wage budget and caps - all teams have a similar - if they can’t afford it then they can’t spend it
It’s a farce. Get all the points deductions in the bin 🗑️
Why do the EFL destroy clubs but the prem just keep failing and being soft?
Cue the financial and legal experts in the comment section...
Stefans stock answer is i dont know.. what an accountant 😮
If the PL don't know...why would Stefan?
He's a lawyer not an accountant.(Do you fact proof anything before you type ?)
Absolutely ridiculous
everton deserves 20 points forest 25 chelsea 50 city 120 plus league 1 for all four clubs!!!
Explain….
idiot
@@healthdex3729 city deserves 150 points
@@Simko3426why if they’re not guilty
A whole load of people are gonna have egg on face 115 good luck with that No evidence apart from a hacker who is now in jail Premier league have a lot of explaining to do
People keep saying what about City every time points are deducted to some other club but look at it like this A bloke admitting he was drink driving and speeding, going to court and being banned but then moaning that the guy arrested at the same time as him for murder who pleaded not guilty hasn't even had a court date.
Borson on Chelsea: 'This R Kelly type is guilty throw him under the jail'! Borson on City: 'Leave Britney alone please'!!!!
“Under the jail” 😂 Joking aside, this is how it comes across to me . I tried to point this out to a city fan but he wasn’t having any of it 🧐 no surprises
The guys a city shill
The more you listen to Simon the more you realise he just talks absolute nonsense and contradicts himself every other week. Absolute joker
I cant wait to see this guys face the day that his beloved man city faces the music
They shouldnt get any back.. broke the rules, suck it up
Remember Stefan works for man city..
No he doesn’t he hasn’t work for city for nearly 10 years
Remember you are thick Is a City fan though
Never has been employed by Manchester City, brought on as an advisor, which ended in 2006. But he is City fan though .
@@waynesewell147 "Brought on as an advisor" is absolutely "being employed" to do a job, in this case advising on a professional matter. If you think he was doing it out of the goodness of his own heart you're kidding yourself.
@@james15us outside contractor, not an employee of the club. kid on
Ch for Chelsea... CH for Cheats. The club that has never had class.
Finally, an intelligent person on Talksport. Can you please start adding more guests like this man instead of the usual brain dead, idiotic, biased prats like Agbonlahor.
Everton have been babied every step of the way
I say... relegate all the teams that tried to get into the big boys area of the league. Let the old guard be in charge again. Get rid of the best team the Premier league has ever seen, the best manager...get back to three clubs playing half decent football and all the lower clubs hoofing it and having their best players snapped up. Who needs anyone coming in, investing in clubs without indebting the outfit till they have to go bankrupt, vastly improving run down working class areas, building great stadia and encouraging all clubs from top to bottom to play decent football, passing out of defence and trapping the ball correctly. We don't need all that guff. We need fat defenders, drunk midfielders and teams with gambling habits...oh.. and good old leveraged buyouts... Actually, while we're at it, let's get back to fighting in the stands and racism all game keeping whole communities away from the stands. Bleedin' upstarts, ruining the league!
It’s a really good point. People are so quick to criticise what we have and forget what we did have (which was not always that good)
Building Stadiums and other infrastructure doesn't count towards ffp.
@irieite9666 But If good owners are pushed out of the Premier league. They're won't be any stadiums.
@@irieite9666incorrect
@@timjdowling Its not incorrect. Player and staff Salary + bonuses and transfers count towards financial fair play. You can build 10 stadiums if you like.
Relegate all cheaters. No need for points deduction.
115 charges, 5 years later. Still waiting ⏲️⌚️⏳️
Liverpool fan but give it a break if city broke the rules it will be down to the pl and uefa for not enforcing them earlier. Guilty or not it’s too late they are now a big club in terms of revenue and digital fanbases etc and even relegations they’ll bounce back quickly. If they aren’t guilty then the pl should be sued for defamation
Didn’t get charged 5 years ago tho did we you donkey. Keep crying, you’ll be there for a while. Surely you want the PL to build the strongest possible case? Nah, u just want it done quickly? Well that gives City more chance of getting off but you’re too far up your own ass to understand that.
If they broke the rules are u deluded they have been charged so of they did nothing wrong how the hell were they charged
Ey darren eat some gravel mate
@darrenfriel5326 You must of been cycling or on glue, constructing that mess of a statement.