Simon Jordan ACCUSED Of 'HYPOCRISY' In Debate About Chelsea's FFP Situation 😱😤
2024 ж. 15 Сәу.
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Simon Jordan and Jim White were joined by Stefan Borson to discuss the latest on Chelsea's FFP situation.
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This guy supposed to know the rules but keeps waffling and giving semantic answers. He is not saying straight answers
exactly haha that’s all he does
He knows what he’s talking about
You mean making statements without any substance? Ironic..
Hes also a patronizing smug hobbit. Lawyers are such parasites.
@@Ben_Gunner says a guy in the KZhead comment section 😂
Simon is a laughing stock
hmmm, not really. HIs job is to be provocative.
Stefan’s just smarter than Simon plain and simple 😂
i've never seen simon talk so little as when borson is on
Maybe because Borson literally is explaining stuff. Hence this video.
@@alexlanemusicit's an education for SJ
Stefan is the financial expert Simon Jordan portrays to the listeners, still educated; just not in management/financial accounting
Except Simon has been more right than Borson. Borson was saying Chelsea were sunk due to FFP. Simon suggested otherwise. Now look where we are.
@@MaterLacrymarumit was the other way around lol
I work in regulated financial services, and I am telling anyone who doesn't... This was always the problem when you welcomed financial professionals and lawyers into the game... Football is now being flooded with poachers turned gamekeepers.
I love when Stefan Borson is on. He always makes Simon feel and look like a guy who isnt as smart as he thinks he is. This only happens with Borson and Eddie Hearn on boxing. You can't be a arrogant chatterbox when your counterpart has more knowledge.
But he’s been wrong nearly every time he’s been on
@@kevingates8339 No he hasn't 🤣🤣🤣 Give me the examples you're talking about.
@@kevingates8339 Instead of writing mindless nonsense, just say you are a united/arsenal/liverpool fan. It's much easier
@@Blobonator8000what's arsenal fans got to do with this ?
@@beepeeayy another big club that is begging for city to get sanctioned into oblivion so they can win a trophy. Don't like Borson because he speaks sense about FFP charges and doesn't peddle the usual nonsense about city being 100% guilty. Same as United and Liverpool fans
Comparing Wolves and Chelsea location for sale of property assets and increase in value is moronic. Wolverhampton is just another city within the midlands yet Chelsea is in the most exclusive and sought after part of London, it's like comparing and ant to an elephant in terms of annual increase in value.
The point is that Wolves/Newc could sell their property to themselves, and keep the income from the property. What Chelsea are doing is basically illegal in any line of business
assets is assets
@@interstellarbeatteller9306 There must be a profit between what they paid and the increased value though. To prove this you need comparable sales - they will have that in London...not in Wolverhampton.
@@interstellarbeatteller9306basically illegal?😂 what this highly publicised sale is illegal? Just think before you start yapping I beg
@@interstellarbeatteller9306basically illegal?😂 what this highly publicised sale is illegal? Just think before you start yapping I beg
Simon? Hypocrisy? Surely not
Stefan Borson just sat there with his cigar in enjoying the show
Stefan Borson knows nothing 😂
@@frasierfreak92He’s the number 1 expert on ffpr
Hotels are included in FFP?..... So football clubs can get involed in any business and claim it as income?
Theyre Business not a sports club so I guess so
Of course they can. Any business that the football club own is part of their profit and loss
@@John...44... Surely Man city would just open up a chain of property, hotels etc to avoid FFP?
@@mnb9162 possibly. Butnit only works if the valuations are increasing
If you sell beer, stadium tours and hotel nights you can include that too Its a way to make revenue and profit for the club...
Simon is a massive 🛎️ end
Simon jordan got owned
I hope SJ is the top paid Talksport member. The amount of videos and clickbait they grind out of his name is mad. I hope he’s the top paid.
Keep you up at night does it ?
Top clobber
You have a point
The hypocrisy is within the suits at the Premier league...
For following the rules the clubs set out and voted to bring in? No the hypocrisy is clubs breaking those rules then crying it's unfair when they get punished.
They raised 2.5 billion, they are smart u guys. CFC for life.
Just taking the absolute piss now.
Everyone forgets that city owners had to sell 15 percent of the club to Chinese investors for 250 million so they could invest in the club
I have always thought of Simon as a hypocrite when he said the Middle East was diluting boxing with its money, which is ironic because previous to that the UK and USA diluting boxes with money
I agree that boxers should fight around the world that’s why they have World titles. They did try that before with rumble in the jungle on thriller in Manila in the 70s. But Predominantly the best boxes have been from the UK & US so you can’t make the allegation against them as that’s where the fan base it. The Saudi issue is an interesting one because I would say to you if Saudi isn’t there why won’t we get certain fights? You fight for the money that you can generate , the issue now is perhaps people might think their money is inflated because of Saudi.
@@adammohamed.. the point was simon is a hypocrite lol.
Just further proves how much of hypocrite Simon Jordan.... whenever he gets called out for his hypocrisy he says " I don't think that's exactly what I said"....then starts yapping a bunch of nonsense......it's clear as day that a narrative is being pushed that money from some places are "clean" and from other places it is "dirty".....an action is being deemed clever or detrimental based on the region the club owner originates from .
All scared of Newcastle
There making our game boring its like the tories are running football ruining football like the country
Exactly, if you've got enough money, you'll find a way.
Simon is a Todd Boehly asset
This guy knows what he is talking about, unlike Mr Jordan who claims to know.
If its not against the rules then cool, the fans are sick of all this FFP, clubs should be left to run their clubs how they see fit.
Which is the problem they don’t run them properly when left do what they like
Clubs should be run in a sensible way, and not just play things of rich foreneigners who want to buy glory. FFP will turn out to be a good thing once aall the clubs get their act together
The huge, active and liquid London property market may be one of the easiest places in the world to determine fair market value, whereas determining fair market value of a player being sold to Saudi Arabia is extremely subjective, to say the least.
Derby apparently did this now look
Steffan reminds me of Randall from recess.
Sir Simon = Top LAD Proper Clobber 🙌
You should have been swallowed
Does that mean city can sell 30 percent of the club to a company owned by the current owners??
Is 30% of the club a sellable asset with a fair market value? Or can you not listen you just wanna make wildly immaculate statements because it’s what you want in the end?😂
Does this mean then clubs could start selling parts of new stadium builds to themselves
Looks like Jim has finally found an "expert" who will say that Chelsea will fail FFP or FSR. Took him long enough.
Borson when asking Chelsea to be charged:Wolverine mode! Borson when someone brings up 115 FC: Weasel mode!
Borson was the first one to say City will be relegated if found guilty of the serious charges? He just says he thinks it’s unlikely City have done it because the accusations are so ridiculous
@@tomben6180 Sure 115 accusations but somehow they are innocent yet they refused to cooperate. You sure Santa is made up and not real?lol
@@Xebthebarbarian Shows how much you know. It’s 2/3 accusations depending on how you want to split it. It duplicates in the rulebook. Everton had 20+ charges for 1 thing!
@@tomben6180 Blah blah keep defending the corrupts. You support oil because your brain is oil. Next!
Did Jim just MC at the start
Lots of club will be buying hotels instead of players lol sell hotels to themselves after a year
Disappointing from Simon. This was a great opportunity for him to just admit he's wrong and being hypocritical. He knows he wrong
Simon has a problem with who the owner of a club is rather than their particular dealings.
Are chelseas finances a lot more dire then there letting on
Stefan Borson, the man who knows so much about FFP but keeps saying City are innocent because he supports them 😂😂😂😂
He states the truth, City were found not guilty at CAS and the evidence is still online now. He just says he doesn’t think the Premier League are capable of proving something of that nature and that it’s unlikely City will have committed fraud on an international level. It’s the sensible position.
@@tomben6180 No they were never found not guilty. They got huge fines and the rest was time barred. CAS specifically criticised City multiple times for refusing to engage in the investigations and trying to hamper them.
@@frasierfreak92 Incorrect. They were found not guilty on the actual charges. They reduced the fine for non cooperation from £50m to £8m, such was the case that CAS believed City had a legitimate reason for stopping cooperation. Here, I’ll provide you with direct quotes from report: CAS Report “Manchester City did not disguise equity as Sponsorship”. Also CAS Report “Not only do we find that the Etihad sponsorship payments are exactly as set out in the contract, this court also finds them to be of fair value”. “Therefore this court overrules UEFA’s guilty finding and two year competition ban for MCFC”.
this sport has lost all its charm
The vast part of the show was about finance and legalities. It had very little to do with sport, this will ramble on, fuelling accountants and lawyers. Big part of sports fans have little knowledge or interest. As the old saying goes, money the root of all evil.
It just goes to show ffp was made to help the big clubs out and make it impossible for smaller teams to compete
Bingo !
It was voted for tho
@@willtallis5275 What we're the options is the real question? It's was designed in such a way that the smaller clubs would definitely not benefit.
@@matt7matt722 but they also voted for it I know it doesn't work but neither does letting an owner do what he likes so where is the middle ground for everyone I don't know but it didbt work beofew and doesn't work now
@willtallis5275 Yes agreed, there needs to be a middle ground but in any industry. Putting off willing investors is never a good idea.
Selling hotel and selling players arent the same time, but what fo you expext from those nobheads up north
So 116 charges just slip under the rug😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Probably because the hapless premier league knows it will never ever be able to prove their bogus allegations.
Mate give it a rest 😂 it doesn’t matter who you support why are you crying about Man City’s charges that are LITERALLY being investigated. Don’t be so naive and say “Everton & forrest” Pish, if you walk up to someone in broad day light on cctv and shoot them with 100’s of witnesses you’ll be locked up and sent to prison as soon as you walk into a court room right? It’s cut and shut you have no defence you have been caught with your pants around your ankles.. if you hid 115 different murders, covered up evidence, and was never caught red handed but arrested as a suspect pending investigation you would not be sentenced until the evidence was heard in court and a conviction reached. Do you think these courts are stupid? Do you think the people earning millions at the top on both sides are not smart people? 1 side are trying their hardest to cover their tracks the others are trying to find a mistake, Everton and forrest were not smart they made terrible decisions and their punishments have been given out justifiably. If you’re THAT pressed about Man City not being charged within a time frame that suits you why don’t you train to be a lawyer and offer the assist the premier league free of charge in their pursuit of Man City? No? Shut up and wait then stop begging for a down fall so your Team most likely arsenal or Liverpool can win without beating the best team in the country/world, it’s embarrassing mate.
@@jordanbrooks4834 Well said Jordon perfectly put.
@@robertmclellan3658 can I ask am I talking to THE rob McClellan? “Jock”? 😮 incredible coincidence if I’m not, but if I am it’s good to hear from you again bud, and I hope all is well (regardless if we’ve met before or not I still hope all is well rob😂🤝)
@@jordanbrooks4834 No afraid not.
Chelsea are gangsters, whether that's under Roman or Boehly! Whether people like it or not Chelsea will be an absolute power house in the not too distant future. Anyone who thinks the people who bought Chelsea have ruined the club and deemed them failures and expects them to continue finishing mid table for the next few years are either very immature, naive or both!
"I haven't been a hypocrite, but I call some of the richest businessmen in the world useful idiots" Idiots that could buy Microsoft, Tesla and Facebook with pocket change.
What about the Saudis killing people. Much worst not mentioned.
The guest is/was on Man City's payroll right? So not an objective viewpoint.
No, he was an independent contractor who advised City at a senior level up until 2007 before the new owners came in. You can say he’s not objective but he admits that up front and presents the facts. He was also the first Individual to mention relegation as a possible punishment for City and he got hammered by City fans for that.
If Chelsea can sell their hotels to their own owners to get around FFP, then Newcastle should sell the deadwood players like Matt Ritchie, Paul Dummett, Jamal Lewis, Jeff Hendrick, Ryan Fraser, Isaac Hayden and Mark Gillespie all to the four owned PIF clubs to get them off the books at an inflated price so we can invest into the squad. It’s all perfectly in the rules so.
They already sold saint maximum 2 a pif club so what's the difference apart from its a hotel and not a player
It needs a serious rethink. We are mot maximazing the PL the best in the world
Sort your audio out ffs
These guys love talking about Chelsea and money and how they are evil. They don't care about football in Chelsea, when it comes football they immediately jump to Manu to complain
Simon: offended by everything Newcastle do. Also simon: not ashamed to support other clubs doing exactly the same. Nonsense merchant
We all know Simone has something against some type of owners in the league
I love how people are putting Stefan Borson on such a pedestal when this is the same man who believes City are innocent of their 115 charges. 😂
I do not like this guy
This is a new level of boardroom scumbaggery from Chelusa
Hi bots
Simple Simon is a pure ponce who talks out his hoop & just a kissy licky beg.
So is this other guy talks and talks but doesn’t actually answer the questions
Jim ask him if we could put a billion poind in escrow, that’s sustainability sorted!