Elagabalus - The "Femboy" Emperor #24 Roman History Documentary Series

2024 ж. 15 Мам.
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Narration by: James O'Neil
Intro: 0:00
Background - Prologue: 0:43
The Priest Emperor- Chapter I: 1:41
In Rome- Chapter II: 4:29
A New Caesar - Chapter III: 6:42
Final Thoughts - Epilogue: 09:46
Music
Imperator Rome OST - Magna Graecia
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  • Imagine at 14 being in command of the whole Roman Empire.

    @carausiuscaesar5672@carausiuscaesar5672 Жыл бұрын
    • Didn't last long

      @optimusprinceps3526@optimusprinceps3526 Жыл бұрын
    • "Now everyone bark like a dog!"

      @NinjaGrrrl7734@NinjaGrrrl7734 Жыл бұрын
    • If I was imperator I would probably either go crazy with power and do what Caligula did or pull a Constantine but most likely due to my lack of experience in ruling a massive empire I would probably be like one of those short lived 2 year Roman emperors like Philip the Arab

      @Caligulashorse1453@Caligulashorse1453 Жыл бұрын
    • Actually, He l believe his Mother and few other counsels ran the Empire until he was old enough...

      @paulhunter6742@paulhunter6742 Жыл бұрын
    • Not a position I'd ever wish for.... just my opinion

      @Donathon-xt2nl@Donathon-xt2nl11 ай бұрын
  • Elagabalus seems to have done everything he could to annoy everyone around him, and so it is little wonder he lasted slightly longer than Caligula. More interestingly and more often overshadowed is Julia Maesa and her role in restoring the Severan dynasty.

    @EasternRomanHistory@EasternRomanHistory Жыл бұрын
    • Yeah and it seems that she was the true power behind the throne and when she could no longer control Elagabalus she promoted her other grandson... Elagabalus' eccentricities might be, at least partly owed to, a normal obstinate teenage behaviour that took the form of a rebellion against his overbearing mother and grandmother. And/or some sort of psychological disorder that got aggravated by being promoted to purple at such a young age.

      @TheSPQRHistorian@TheSPQRHistorian Жыл бұрын
    • I have a lot of empathy for him. He was strange, didn't fit in, obviously had his own internal struggles, and then he was placed to rule over the most powerful country the world has known. Imagine a 14-year-old dealing with DC lobbyists. All the teenage emperors were like Elagabalus - Nero was 16 I think when he became emperor, Caligula was also young, etc.

      @mattkiraly9869@mattkiraly9869 Жыл бұрын
    • @@mattkiraly9869 A true sigma femboy

      @redjirachi1@redjirachi110 ай бұрын
    • ​​@@TheSPQRHistorianif women could only hold power on their own, they would not have to use subterfuge and use males to further their ambitious. Maybe the roman women would have been better where the men failed

      @riaagarwal6840@riaagarwal68409 ай бұрын
    • ​@@riaagarwal6840nah 😂 women always made things worse

      @matraditz3954@matraditz39547 ай бұрын
  • Caligula: I’m the craziest emperor! Elagabalus: Hold my wine!

    @Hilversumborn@Hilversumborn Жыл бұрын
    • He could not hold a candle to Caligula in that area

      @vituscorvinus3110@vituscorvinus3110 Жыл бұрын
    • "I do believe that I am becoming a god"

      @optimusprinceps3526@optimusprinceps3526 Жыл бұрын
    • @@vituscorvinus3110 Tiberius could 🤣

      @optimusprinceps3526@optimusprinceps3526 Жыл бұрын
    • Look everybody...I'm a lady 🤣🤣🤣

      @redplanet7163@redplanet7163 Жыл бұрын
    • leadwine*

      @juliansanchezharris5773@juliansanchezharris5773 Жыл бұрын
  • Sounds like a perfect role for Ezra Miller.

    @jamessheridan4306@jamessheridan4306 Жыл бұрын
    • Oh God don't give woke Hollywood any ideas lmao.

      @rdf4315@rdf4315 Жыл бұрын
    • @@rdf4315 Do you even know what "lmao" means anymore?

      @Zodroo_Tint@Zodroo_Tint Жыл бұрын
    • Too perfect

      @thaneofwhiterun3562@thaneofwhiterun3562 Жыл бұрын
    • Ezra miller could molest a baby live on TV but because he belongs to the (((tribe))) he wont end up in Jail.

      @viraloracle5151@viraloracle515111 ай бұрын
    • That's unfair to Elagablus; we're not sure how messed up he actually was and how much of it was propaganda against him

      @redjirachi1@redjirachi110 ай бұрын
  • *Well, we're one emperor away from a complete Crisis... given how short they all reigned, I imagine your uploads are going to be pretty regular.*

    @youvebeengreeked@youvebeengreeked Жыл бұрын
    • Alexander severus Is underrated

      @alessandrogini5283@alessandrogini5283 Жыл бұрын
    • @@alessandrogini5283 Maximin has entered the chat

      @thadtuiol1717@thadtuiol1717 Жыл бұрын
    • ⁠@@thadtuiol1717Never forget Doug. The savior of Rome, forgotten by history 😔

      @cam5816@cam58167 ай бұрын
  • 10:12 "he intended to implement a distinctly foreign god at the head of roman pantheon." Constantine: this looks like a job for me.

    @dronvirs@dronvirs Жыл бұрын
    • Yeah, the difference betwixt the two: while Elagabalus was a freakin' child, who by all accounts was a fairly inept ruler, gaining the throne by way of a fluke. Constantine was an amazing General gaining the throne by victory through bloodshed while also being an extremely competent ruler. Though, I guess if youre in the camp that Christianity led to the collapse of the empire he probably isn't that good in your mind. Personally imho, religion is mostly lip service, people are gonna do what they're gonna do. The Crusades were made more so by a few bountiful harvests and a surplus of sons than by any divine portents or commands EDIT: Just basic editing and added in the bit about the crusades. Best wishes, dear reader.

      @SuperMrHiggins@SuperMrHiggins Жыл бұрын
    • @@SuperMrHiggins Not to mention the Monotheistic concept was far fresher and more appealing especially to the poorer peoples of Rome.

      @romanicempirium3083@romanicempirium3083 Жыл бұрын
  • *Fun fact:* There's a 1911 silent short film about Elagabalus' madness and death called "L'orgie romaine" ("The Roman Orgy"). It's on KZhead if you are interested in watching it. Also, the Steven Saylor's book "Dominus" recounts Elagabalus' infamous reign. Both products are pretty good, actually.

    @OptimusMaximusNero@OptimusMaximusNero Жыл бұрын
    • thank you for sharing that. I may just look those up

      @bradwolf07@bradwolf07 Жыл бұрын
  • "Femboy emperor?" I swear my undying fealty and loyalty to Rome

    @TheReddShinobi13@TheReddShinobi13 Жыл бұрын
    • XD

      @zwerg8474@zwerg8474Ай бұрын
  • Thank you so much for this systematic chronological lay out of the emperors of Rome. It really helps with the understanding of the missing gaps so many other histories possess.

    @maximvsdread1610@maximvsdread1610 Жыл бұрын
    • So true 👏🏼

      @yvonnemg4292@yvonnemg429210 ай бұрын
  • This is my favorite video series about Rome, hands down!

    @voizen7879@voizen7879 Жыл бұрын
  • I don’t really think you can say he was a trans. He had many enemies whose biased writings are our only source. Despite his eccentric actions, there is no evidence that he viewed himself as the opposite of his biological gender. The concept of gender identity is relatively recent and trying to apply the concept to people in the past is distorting history.

    @Apollo1989V@Apollo1989V Жыл бұрын
    • That's the exact thing I was thinking, it's ridiculous

      @JuliantheApostate361AD@JuliantheApostate361AD Жыл бұрын
    • I know and I agree, that's why I only recite Cassius Dio and move on. But I'm sorry; it's too juicy... I had to put it in the title for the clickbait

      @TheSPQRHistorian@TheSPQRHistorian Жыл бұрын
    • @@TheSPQRHistorian lmao atleast youre honest

      @TonyFontaine1988@TonyFontaine1988 Жыл бұрын
    • @@TheSPQRHistorian although I agree with you, you’re going to ruffle a lot of fragile feathers on both sides - especially those who try to ascribe modern standards to ancient history.

      @georgesantos4962@georgesantos4962 Жыл бұрын
    • @@TheSPQRHistorian Lost some respect for this channel. Not so much for the trans thing itself, but doing it as clickbait. People watch your channel because the videos are well made and the content is well researched and well described. You don't need to bait people into your watching your videos. We're not little fishies. Also, never say "too juice".

      @jonddavis3817@jonddavis3817 Жыл бұрын
  • Ah, finally, Elagabalus... the emperor who beat all his predecessors in his depravity.

    @Anakunus@Anakunus Жыл бұрын
    • 👍🌿😜🌿

      @optimusprinceps3526@optimusprinceps3526 Жыл бұрын
    • ...he just called himself a woman how can that match Tiberius?

      @vituscorvinus3110@vituscorvinus3110 Жыл бұрын
    • @@vituscorvinus3110 The goings on in Capri with Catamites and Spintriae are legendary, even Caligula would have blushed...

      @optimusprinceps3526@optimusprinceps3526 Жыл бұрын
    • The guy had a carriage, in which he had naked women pull it, while he whipped them, 100% correct sir.

      @BenWaitinOnYou@BenWaitinOnYou Жыл бұрын
    • No, Elagabalus was strange and mentally ill, he was nowhere near as depraved as Caligula or Caracalla

      @joshuadk13@joshuadk1311 ай бұрын
  • One of the greatest of Venetian composers Francesco Cavalli wrote an opera called "Eliogabalo" in 1667 -apparently it was never staged but put on stage for the first time in 2010 in the U.S. and many other places starring the astonishing Argentinian male soprano Franco Fagioli.The whole of the Paris production is available on You Tube -a quite amazing work.

    @kaloarepo288@kaloarepo288 Жыл бұрын
  • The first I heard of him was in Kurt Vonnegut's "Breakfast of Champions", in which he was identified as "Heliogabalus".

    @mangrove@mangrove Жыл бұрын
  • I've been waiting for how long for you guys to make a video.

    @goethe3116@goethe3116 Жыл бұрын
  • Such an overlooked emperor, thank you for this

    @stronkveak5917@stronkveak5917 Жыл бұрын
    • It got what was coming, little Catamite

      @optimusprinceps3526@optimusprinceps3526 Жыл бұрын
  • As always, well done.

    @dda40x1@dda40x1 Жыл бұрын
  • He represented almost every vice. But he did invent the Whoopie Cushion.

    @markp44288@markp44288 Жыл бұрын
    • Then his life truly did have meaning.

      @toddkurzbard@toddkurzbard Жыл бұрын
    • See farting preachers, to expand your search engine for more evidence of the reign of Fartimus maximus in our society.

      @tr7b410@tr7b410 Жыл бұрын
  • its been a while since your last upload i was beginning to worry 😄 thanks for the great video 👍

    @stratagos4610@stratagos4610 Жыл бұрын
  • Please Please Please, I beg of thee, never stop making videos!!!

    @goethe3116@goethe3116 Жыл бұрын
  • Love your videos. I hope you do my favourite emperor “Aurelian” someday.

    @alhajisonline7353@alhajisonline7353 Жыл бұрын
  • Please keep doing these!

    @Eazy-ERyder@Eazy-ERyder Жыл бұрын
  • Amazing work

    @romanyromania6032@romanyromania60329 ай бұрын
  • Fascinating!

    @robbabcock_@robbabcock_ Жыл бұрын
  • Elagabalus may've been the only femboy emperor we've ever had and I am not complaining.

    @dronvirs@dronvirs Жыл бұрын
    • Constans

      @TrajGreekFire@TrajGreekFire Жыл бұрын
    • @@TrajGreekFire extremely gay but was not called Hierocles's queen 😩 and he sponsored a decree alongside Constantius II that ruled that marriage based on "unnatural" sex should be punished meticulously (maybe he was not a femboy or maybe he was)

      @dronvirs@dronvirs Жыл бұрын
    • Caligula and Nero too

      @optimusprinceps3526@optimusprinceps3526 Жыл бұрын
    • @@optimusprinceps3526 not caligula. Incestuous? Yes. Femboy? No.

      @dronvirs@dronvirs Жыл бұрын
    • @@dronvirs yeah he was a right wing femboy like we have today

      @TrajGreekFire@TrajGreekFire Жыл бұрын
  • This needs to be a Netflix series.

    @shebbasanders1916@shebbasanders1916 Жыл бұрын
    • Well it's about a tranny so I'm sure they'll be all over it.

      @commentingpausedtoprotectus@commentingpausedtoprotectus11 ай бұрын
    • Netflix will portray him black

      @rufst@rufst11 ай бұрын
    • They won't he is an evil transgender

      @renefonck8920@renefonck892011 ай бұрын
    • ​@@rufst😂 Farcical! He's Roman!

      @moniqueloomis9772@moniqueloomis977210 ай бұрын
    • I wouldn’t watch such liberal filth

      @binghamguevara6814@binghamguevara68147 ай бұрын
  • Great video! As every single one 🙂

    @michelleandrade303@michelleandrade303 Жыл бұрын
  • i love this channel

    @morganicom3027@morganicom3027 Жыл бұрын
  • Great video, I like your picture of Cassius Dio, is it a medieval picture?

    @EasternRomanHistory@EasternRomanHistory Жыл бұрын
  • I have peer reviewed sources published and reviewed by editorial boards who claim that he was a power bottom. Hence his hiring standards.

    @AD-ij2wj@AD-ij2wj Жыл бұрын
    • Seems inappropriate to be referring to an emperor with a large majority of his reign (75% ish) was as an underage child in an extremely sexualised and visual way... speculating about a child's sex life, historical or not, is also very weird and almost seems fetishist. You aren't really helping progressives who are fighting for gay (or queer now apparently) rights that we've been trying to fight and disassociation with pedophilia which you seem to be trying to get reattached by saying stuff like this...

      @DS-us1vi@DS-us1vi11 ай бұрын
    • Got that source I would read it

      @gideoncornfield4732@gideoncornfield47325 ай бұрын
  • underrated channel

    @MithridatesVI32@MithridatesVI3211 ай бұрын
  • I'm glad this showed up as I'd recently bought a coin with his image on it but never heard of him before and didn't know a thing about him. Thanks.

    @jamesruddy9264@jamesruddy9264 Жыл бұрын
    • That's a rare Roman coin

      @optimusprinceps3526@optimusprinceps3526 Жыл бұрын
    • @@optimusprinceps3526 Really? I didn't know that either. I paid $10 for it at an antique shop in Hastings Minnesota.

      @jamesruddy9264@jamesruddy9264 Жыл бұрын
    • ​@@jamesruddy9264 how do you know it's real?

      @thejohn6614@thejohn6614 Жыл бұрын
    • @@thejohn6614 I don't know for sure, but I'm not overly concerned as I only collect for fun not as an investment.

      @jamesruddy9264@jamesruddy9264 Жыл бұрын
    • @@jamesruddy9264 that's cool. I wish I could just stumble across something like that somewhere. That's a cool find. Does it look really old? What is it made out of?

      @thejohn6614@thejohn6614 Жыл бұрын
  • This comment section is gonna be a fucking war zone

    @JustinCage56@JustinCage56 Жыл бұрын
    • I know right - I put a trigger word in the title

      @TheSPQRHistorian@TheSPQRHistorian Жыл бұрын
    • so far it's tame.

      @FazeParticles@FazeParticles Жыл бұрын
  • Something that always baffled me regarding roman emperors is that, while it may be understandable with the earlier emperors of this type, after so many of their predecessors were killed by the senate or military, you would think that at some point they would stop making the mistake of believing that they can just do whatever they like without getting the stabby stab.

    @MC-gj8fg@MC-gj8fg8 ай бұрын
  • Hey Ela...you go girl!

    @dano3952@dano39522 ай бұрын
  • Nice

    @stephenlennon76@stephenlennon76 Жыл бұрын
  • "unusual" at least he didn't call him bizzare like I've heard other people

    @not_averge@not_averge Жыл бұрын
  • Thanks for an interesting story. Elagabalus is one of my favorite emperors to *hear* about, but in ancient times it must have felt absolutely ridiculous to experience him. Rome hasn't always been lucky with it's emperors. I missed the story of his extravagant first entrance to Rome, but I guess there are so many stories we can't have them all. And we might never know facts from fiction.

    @larsrons7937@larsrons7937 Жыл бұрын
    • pro-ukrainian and woke totaly mdr!

      @georgesnovi5138@georgesnovi5138Ай бұрын
    • @@georgesnovi5138 You wrote that nonsense, not I.

      @larsrons7937@larsrons7937Ай бұрын
  • I first heard of Elagabalus (actually, Golobulus) in _G.I. Joe: The Movie;_ he was one of the chief denizens of Cobra-La, voiced by the late great Burgess Meredith.

    @fuferito@fuferito Жыл бұрын
  • Barely heard of this emperor before...boy was I missing out on some fascinating insanity

    @bradwolf07@bradwolf07 Жыл бұрын
  • Sources? I love your videos btw!

    @nicholaspiper98@nicholaspiper98 Жыл бұрын
  • You should put the sources into the description.

    @TotilaTheGoth@TotilaTheGoth Жыл бұрын
  • knew how to enjoy himself

    @kennethgiles-nu9dk@kennethgiles-nu9dk10 ай бұрын
  • There must be a film or a series about him but without historical mistakes or fantasy costumes!

    @JonathanRivera-dj6mm@JonathanRivera-dj6mm5 ай бұрын
  • Hey I'm not hating on the hussel, great videos mostly thank you, wasn't trying to give u a hard time thanks for the response

    @JuliantheApostate361AD@JuliantheApostate361AD Жыл бұрын
  • He reminds me of Geoffrey from the game of thrones

    @nhammond944@nhammond94410 ай бұрын
  • I can't help but notice that our narrator sounds like John Cleese's younger brother.

    @willrice1850@willrice185010 ай бұрын
  • I absolutely love the title of this video in the name of all the Gods of Rome please don't change it

    @freemikeg@freemikeg Жыл бұрын
  • That image presented as Elagabalus looks alot like George Noory.

    @chrisyoung5363@chrisyoung536311 ай бұрын
  • What a gigachad

    @Maperator@Maperator9 ай бұрын
  • he was related to septimius severus , not marcus aureleis .... which is what you said in the first minute of the video. Many late Roman emperors added Aurelius to his Name to add providence to his position

    @Evocletian@Evocletian10 ай бұрын
  • Praetorian Guards: "Caesar, we have finally found the way to turn you into a woman!" Elagabalus: "Really? Oh man, I cannot wait to get rid of this ridiculous p*nis. What's your plan?" Praetorian Guards: "Close your eyes!" Elagabalus: "Okie Dokie!" 😊 Praetorian Guards: *Draw swords*

    @OptimusMaximusNero@OptimusMaximusNero Жыл бұрын
    • Elagabalus: Why do I hear a sword?

      @hyraemous@hyraemous Жыл бұрын
    • 😂😂😂😂😂

      @cinema6r845@cinema6r84510 ай бұрын
  • Count Dankula should make an Absolute Mad Lads on this emperor

    @redjirachi1@redjirachi110 ай бұрын
  • He was the grandson of Emperor Septimius Severus correct?

    @phantomwolf5468@phantomwolf5468 Жыл бұрын
    • No, Septimius Severus wife Julia Domna had a sister named Julia Maesa, Elagabalus and Severus Alexander was Julia Maesas grandsons

      @TheSPQRHistorian@TheSPQRHistorian Жыл бұрын
    • @@TheSPQRHistorian Yes 👍🏾yes that’s right, I just looked back and realize that. Thanks very much for the reply & great story😊

      @phantomwolf5468@phantomwolf5468 Жыл бұрын
    • _Grandnephew, and I am utterly ashamed and disgusted to admit it._

      @septimiusseverus343@septimiusseverus343 Жыл бұрын
    • @@septimiusseverus343 there, there, you can pick your friends but not your family

      @kellysouter4381@kellysouter4381 Жыл бұрын
  • History kinda repeating itself.

    @IamBuffal0@IamBuffal010 ай бұрын
  • He merely embraced his position as Queen..er um…

    @jeromesullivan4015@jeromesullivan4015 Жыл бұрын
    • He really had a Horriblius Anus? NM

      @jeromesullivan4015@jeromesullivan4015 Жыл бұрын
  • Bear in mind that Cassius Dio, Herodian, and the chronicler for the _Historia Augusta_ were of the type men back then who would recoil at the very idea of men and teenage boys expressing traits of femininity, and especially of male citizens who bottomed. So they hated Elagabalus who could very well have been bisexual, gay, a femboy, etc., as we understand it, but I think we need to take with a grain of salt some of their more outrageous claims about him. But I have to admit, he was pretty.

    @edwardmiessner6502@edwardmiessner6502 Жыл бұрын
    • He was kinda pretty, I agree. :)

      @mattkiraly9869@mattkiraly9869 Жыл бұрын
    • Yeah, pretty fking ghae lol

      @user-bh2eq2ew6s@user-bh2eq2ew6s8 ай бұрын
    • @ edwardmiessner6502 The warrior ethic is what most Romans viewed as honorable.

      @here_we_go_again2571@here_we_go_again25718 ай бұрын
  • Really love your presentations. Please have someone proofread your material and your pronunciation of foreign names. Latin names usually follow a pronunciation that follows the Latin vowels.

    @gregorylittle1461@gregorylittle1461 Жыл бұрын
  • Literally chudulus

    @joshjacob1530@joshjacob1530 Жыл бұрын
  • We can call him Elafaggabalus for various reasons

    @RagnaCloud13@RagnaCloud136 ай бұрын
  • even the greeks thought that the syrians were shifty

    @brendanryan6740@brendanryan67408 ай бұрын
  • 👍🏻👍🏻

    @nancyM1313@nancyM1313 Жыл бұрын
  • What was Egbalus's original name? SEXtus.

    @xiezhao9075@xiezhao9075 Жыл бұрын
  • I heard that he would walk backwards while holding a rock and was killed while he was using the bathroom.

    @timothykozlowski2945@timothykozlowski2945 Жыл бұрын
  • Yo man Romans were tripping back then

    @arifahmedkhan9999@arifahmedkhan9999 Жыл бұрын
  • Julia Maesa BABY!! Original Queen Of Hearts!!

    @boybawang1981@boybawang19819 ай бұрын
  • How he lasted more than a month is crazy .he had no desire to do his job at all. Like commodus but worse..

    @michaeldy3157@michaeldy315717 күн бұрын
  • 👍👍

    @larrywave@larrywave Жыл бұрын
  • seeing the word femboy on a serious video about rome is so funny

    @goldenweeb2081@goldenweeb2081Ай бұрын
  • No mention of Zoticus ... how disappointing!!

    @martinbeausoleil5229@martinbeausoleil5229 Жыл бұрын
  • The name Elagabalus refers to the god Baal.

    @fantasia55@fantasia553 ай бұрын
  • He was a young nut case teen. The restored dynasty had little legitimacy as she and her grandsons had no actual relation to Septimius Severus guess that is why she invented the myth he was Caracalls son.

    @PC-lu3zf@PC-lu3zf10 ай бұрын
  • Poor Elagabalus, who only wanted to become a priest and not an emperor at all! 🌹

    @andrejajurecic1050@andrejajurecic1050 Жыл бұрын
  • Almost to the crisis of the third century😅

    @iexist3919@iexist3919 Жыл бұрын
  • hi my name is Braulio Darias i'm deaf all right the another i am really that history the roman amazing thanks

    @brauliodarias1282@brauliodarias1282 Жыл бұрын
  • AVE ELAGABALUS, THE FOLLOWERS OF THERSITES PRAISE YOU

    @danielchequer5842@danielchequer5842 Жыл бұрын
  • When you take the Dionysian cult a little 2 hard.

    @joshjacob1530@joshjacob1530 Жыл бұрын
    • ELAGABALUS- The Femperor 🗿

      @joshjacob1530@joshjacob1530 Жыл бұрын
  • of course he looks like schlatt

    @xlZer0n@xlZer0n Жыл бұрын
  • Elagabalus is the personification of main character energy

    @joshuadk13@joshuadk1311 ай бұрын
  • Elagabalus was named for the Semitic god Baal. Adherents worshipped stones.

    @fantasia55@fantasia55 Жыл бұрын
  • THANK YOU for making a video about my FAVORITE Roman emperor!!!! The Historia Augusta's account of his life is AWESOME!! I like his taste in men (that blond gladiator husband sounded sensational), his sense of humor, and his fashion sense. And I want that chariot of his, the one that's drawn by naked women!!! And it's always very very odd to me that people go ballistic about him ... STILL!! After all these centuries! And even CENSOR accounts of what he did. And I wonder, why? What's the big deal? "Great" leaders who aren't nearly as fun are responsible for the violent deaths of millions (Hello obscure 19th century American Presidents! What happened to all those Native Americans??). Is wearing monochrome earth tone clothing, no makeup, and monogamously married to a cisgendered woman who doesn't talk much a ticket to moral virtue? Why is it whenever someone behaves in ways most people would consider to be outrageous it's seen as some sort of "degeneracy", yet brutality, violence, mayhem and destruction are greeted with applause, or some sort of shrug and acceptance?

    @johnmanno2052@johnmanno2052 Жыл бұрын
    • He wasn't accepted by the Romans and got what was coming

      @optimusprinceps3526@optimusprinceps3526 Жыл бұрын
    • @@optimusprinceps3526 Yes. He wasn't accepted by "the Romans" (whoever they were), but hardly anyone was, and those who were were VERY brutal people (Diocletian, Constantine, etc etc). Speaking personally, I certainly would prefer a flamboyant absolute monarch to a brutal one, but to each his own, I guess. What I don't understand, however, was how "he got what was coming to him". It sounds like you're saying that any man in makeup and a dress somehow "deserves" some kind of violence. But I can't imagine anyone nowadays saying such a thing, though people certainly said such things when I was 12 (I'm 60). Would you please clarify?

      @johnmanno2052@johnmanno2052 Жыл бұрын
    • @Frank Thinnes Interesting. I don't visualize him as a modern person at all, because a lot of those conceptions that we have about ourselves and our identities simply didn't exist at the time, though I am aware of the HUGE debate between essentialists and their critics. And I'm not sure if he had any agenda, per se, other than doing what he wanted to do. But whatever he was, or wanted, or did, I find the record that is his legacy fascinating and even inspiring, far more so than someone like Augustus. This has nothing to do with Elagabalus himself, but rather myself. We have much to blame people like Augustus for, if subsequent societies are based on Roman perspectives on how to run a society. Imagine, if you will, what life would have been like if people like Elagabalus won.

      @johnmanno2052@johnmanno2052 Жыл бұрын
    • @Frank Thinnes Oh! I'm sorry I misunderstood your comment! And now I feel foolish because here you are an expert and I shot off my mouth! Thank you for your infinite patience. And it's nice to know I'm not the only one who daydreams about Elagabalus! 🙂

      @johnmanno2052@johnmanno2052 Жыл бұрын
    • @Frank Thinnes Sounds awesome

      @johnmanno2052@johnmanno2052 Жыл бұрын
  • Elagabalus really woke and chose to live their life like it was a video game

    @TaeSunWoo@TaeSunWoo Жыл бұрын
    • Fr being crowned at 14 is crazy

      @shiro4095@shiro4095 Жыл бұрын
    • ​@@shiro4095 He was crowned at the age of 14 which explains why he was the way he was and did what he did, all he was doing was experimenting with his new found power and seeing how far he can go which of course is pure insanity.

      @Starlight-by3cf@Starlight-by3cf Жыл бұрын
  • Ah yes, the Femboy waifu ~Dovahatty

    @wiel5908@wiel5908 Жыл бұрын
  • Who are these guards, seriously i mean how many emperor have they killed.

    @sarockanime@sarockanime3 ай бұрын
  • The more things change...the more they stay the same! lol

    @pentegarn1@pentegarn1 Жыл бұрын
    • The collapse of empires/civilisations follow a predictable pattern. Recall Amenhotep in Ancient Egypt,just from the remaining statues you could determine that the chap was at least an oddball.He wanted to convert Egyptians to one god revolving around the Sun/worship.....When they got rid of him they destroyed evidence of him actually existing. Its a fascinating subject because so many forces are at play when a new "regime" takes over. Today a man suffering from dementia has been installed as the "Emperor " of America....the whole thing is a complete farce when you see him tottering along....but as with the Roman example it is now speculated that Jill Biden/Jacob is ACTUALLY the power behind the scenes.....and that Biden is told what to do.... But as with Elagabus Bidens presence has created enormous resentment.....so his ice-creams would be the perfect vehicle for delivering a cure for American woes. Ironically Iran/Persia is still around!!.

      @bertplank8011@bertplank8011 Жыл бұрын
    • @@bertplank8011 You're a moron.....and a traitor by the sounds of it.

      @pentegarn1@pentegarn1 Жыл бұрын
  • He was, however, a great favorite during PRIDE Month.

    @toddkurzbard@toddkurzbard Жыл бұрын
    • Hadrian and Trajan would be better choices

      @Hilversumborn@Hilversumborn Жыл бұрын
  • "Bad times make strong men. Strong men make good times. Good times make weak men. Weak men make bad times."

    @misaelfraga8196@misaelfraga8196 Жыл бұрын
    • The Bad times started before him

      @Ale-dd3ek@Ale-dd3ek Жыл бұрын
  • As long as you are a good person and do a good job it doesn't matter if you are a man or a woman.

    @bvillafuerte765@bvillafuerte765 Жыл бұрын
  • Roman emperors were discord mods before discord even existed

    @nurval1093@nurval1093 Жыл бұрын
  • That historical period when the world was ruled by the italian Mafia.

    @Rafael-lr4gn@Rafael-lr4gn Жыл бұрын
  • Also, are we going to gloss over his choosing of bodyguards based on their… size?

    @joshuadk13@joshuadk1311 ай бұрын
  • Poor lad! he were only a kid, tiz all

    @nikzad2167@nikzad2167 Жыл бұрын
  • Impossible. Everyone knows the Roman's and the Greeks totally accepted all kinds of sexual debauchery. I am sure the army had no issues with his gender expression

    @briandarlage9815@briandarlage98158 ай бұрын
    • nah you could be gay just not a bottom as that wasn't considered manly

      @turtlesandmoreturtles4140@turtlesandmoreturtles414028 күн бұрын
  • Catamite would be a better word.

    @dianalindeman1644@dianalindeman1644 Жыл бұрын
  • The stone of Elagabol is the same stone as the one in Mecca.

    @nonnayerbusiness7704@nonnayerbusiness7704 Жыл бұрын
  • Surely "Femporer"?

    @jonathanfinney7821@jonathanfinney7821 Жыл бұрын
    • Where's the dads joke groan icon?

      @kellysouter4381@kellysouter4381 Жыл бұрын
    • 😄 that is clever... Like it

      @kurzeful@kurzeful Жыл бұрын
  • Well, he's considered as one of the most inept emperors to ever "rule" the Roman Empire. He was a puppet of his own grandmother, who got rid of him because of Elagabalus being so depraved and unpopular with Praetorian Guard as well as populace. So much so, he began to be a threat to the security of his own family, who ended up killing him with the help of the Praetorian Guard. Killing him before others do it and kill the family as well for the good measure... I sincerely don't know why modern homosexual people look up to him. Hadrian was gay and one of the best emperors to rule the Empire and despite him being gay, he left the best succession after him. He is far more deserving of praise.

    @MrSergore@MrSergore Жыл бұрын
    • Modern homosexuals look up to him??? I never did. Beware of generalizations.

      @jamessheridan4306@jamessheridan4306 Жыл бұрын
    • Well, Hadrian was not a fan of the jews ...

      @simenon5929@simenon5929 Жыл бұрын
    • because hadrian was literally hitler

      @sneedsfeedandseed1795@sneedsfeedandseed1795 Жыл бұрын
    • @@simenon5929 no one was a "fan of the jews".....anyway,how is this relevant?.

      @bertplank8011@bertplank8011 Жыл бұрын
  • I liked the moment I saw the title 🤣

    @DV-xu7ps@DV-xu7ps Жыл бұрын
  • He would have listened to radiohead

    @cringecande_9352@cringecande_935223 күн бұрын
  • The comments are hilarious. TRIGGERED!!!!!!!!!!

    @cms7361@cms7361 Жыл бұрын
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