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00:00 Intro
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01:49 Why not just use Ubuntu?
03:54 Debian (instant clickbait)
05:14 Linux Mint
06:19 Rhino Linux
07:37 Pop!_OS
09:18 Tuxedo OS
11:01 Why not these ones?
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Generally, what people dislike about Ubuntu are the inclusion of Snaps, the proprietary backend of the Snap Store, the opt-out telemetry, and some questionable decisions over the years.
But you could always disable all of that? That's just part of the story. If what you dislike is Canonical, the company behind Ubuntu, then disabling this doesn't really help.
And we'll begin by immediately lying, as this one isn't Ubuntu based: it's actually the one Ubuntu is based on: Debian. If what you like about Ubuntu, and what you want to keep using, is apt, the package manager, the vast software repos, but you want a vanilla KDE or GNOME experience, and none of the Canonical projects and decisions, Debian might be a really solid bet.
Mint is based on the latest Ubuntu LTS, and removes basically everything that makes Ubuntu, Ubuntu: snaps aren't there, some apps that don't have a debian package anymore in Ubuntu have on in Mint, like Chromium, and they don't use the GNOME desktop: you get Cinnamon, a desktop Mint developed themselves, once based on GNOME 3, but now pretty much its own thing.
One you might want to try is Rhino Linux. It's also a relatively recent distro, and it moves away from the Ubuntu template by being a rolling release: it doesn't give you major upgrades, it's always updated in the background, especially the Linux kernel, and some important apps, like Firefox.
Rhino Linux doesn't use the GNOME desktop by default, it uses its own vision of XFCE, that, let's be honest, feels very much like modern GNOME. You can use apt, but Rhino Linux also comes with a meta package manager, called Rhino-pkg, that lets you install debian packages from the repos, flatpaks, snaps, and it also lets you use pacstall, an equivalent to the Arch User repository for Ubuntu.
Another Ubuntu based distro that has a few cool tricks up its sleeve is PopOS. PopOS has some updates on top of that base, notably for drivers and the Linux kernel, and has some applications that are provided in their own repo, so you're not stuck on very old versions of important apps. They also have some interesting tweaks to the GNOME desktop: they offer a different experience, with a dock by default, an app launcher, and auto tiling features that let you switch from floating windows to a tiling window manager at the press of a button, or with a keyboard shortcut.
If you're more of a KDE user, then there's Tuxedo OS. It's Ubuntu based, with the latest KDE apps and desktop, plucked straight from KDE Neon's repositories: this means you get a semi rolling release model, with access to the repos for Ubuntu's latest LTS version, plus some extra repos on top of that for more recent kernel and drivers, and some applications that need to be more up to date.
And now for a list of the distros I didn't really include, and the reasons why!
The first one is Zorin OS: while it's a good take on Ubuntu, being basically exactly Ubuntu LTS, but with a customized desktop, pre made layouts, and support for virtually every packaging format out of the box, it's also based on Ubuntu 20.04 LTS, and the Linux kernel 5.15.
The second one is elementary OS. It's based on 22.04 LTS, and does have access to the full Ubuntu repos. While I personally think it's a really great option, the defaults won't fit everyone, including the removal of all debian based packages from their graphical app store.
And then there are all the Ubuntu flavours: they're also now constrained by Canonical's decisions, like preventing them from shipping another packaging format than snap.
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Would you please mention that mint has Mate and XFCE editions, i know people who are still p.o. at mint for using Cinnamon as it had issues with graphic cards back then.
@@toma.cnc1 MATE is looking less and less like it's being actively developed. Xfce can pretty much do over 90% of what MATE could do, and Xfce is also much more customizable.
Could you make an installation guide video for various distros? P.S. I do run OpenSUSE Tumbleweed, and my installation efforts have not been a complete success.
@@Soundwave142 Is OpenSUSE still under Nowell ownership?
@toma.cnc1 Novell? Haven't they been absorbed by some other company? I think SuSE is about to go private anyway.
I wanna take this opportunity to admire the structure of your videos. Instead of diving directly into the nitty gritty you take your time to explain why you should switch in the first place. But it is not only this video but also many others! I really wish that I found your channel back when I started with Linux. Keep it up! :)
Debian 12 stable in combination with Flatpaks and Distrobox, works great for me. Only negative is their outdated Installer that can be a little confusing for newer people.
And their website. But their live images use calamares installer.
@@boringusername792 Yeah their website looks like straight out of 2005, gives Debian a bad taste even tho their distro is S tier
@@boringusername792 Haha yeah, Debian definitely has the worst website in human history 😄
+1 for Debian. As long as you know roughly what you're doing, it just works; and very consistently. Linux Mint Debian Edition is great for people that don't know what they're doing.
@@aaron284i had a heart attack setting it up on a drive with 2 EFI partitions
1:50 - Why would you not just use Ubuntu and remove the things that you don't like in it? *_Proceeds to completely remove Ubuntu and installs Arch Linux instead_* - OMG, you were right! That was a fantastic piece of advice! Thank you!
Arch is a pain in the ass if you're a developer who uses Yocto, a lot of SDKs etc. Almost everything is tested against Ubuntu and it just makes life easier to run ubuntu. I don't have the time to LARP as a sysadmin while also trying to develop stuff.
No one here is talking about arch. Set the arch elite tards.. If people want it more of a challenge just to try to use their computers, they would install arch. For those who actually wanna get things done sometime this century. What's out massive headaches? They use distribution such as LMDE or Linux mint.
People don't seems to know what a joke is
@@Racsu Apparently. ;D Then again, it's 2023, so I'm more than used to it. 🤘😎
@@motoryzenI just want to get things done and not have to manually install apps so I use Arch. The installation and usability got streamlined a ton nowadays it's just as easy to set up than any other distro
Running Ubuntu default daily build 23.10. Super nice, fast and haven't had one crash so far. Cononical at least are making decisions and actively develop the base and it's environment to make things better. I personally really like default Ubuntu and think they are doing a great job. If I don't want drama I simply install Ubuntu.
Just a heads-up, any distribution that doesn't rely on Snap will be faster. Also "Cononical at least are making decisions and actively develop the base and it's environment to make things better" - I'm not sure what you mean here, but don't be fooled into thinking other distributions aren't actively improving and contributing to the broader Linux ecosystem. I can't speak of the others on this list, but Linux Mint is certainly the most user-centric project I have seen in my entire life, and Pop_OS will probably have a big impact on the Linux world once their Cosmic desktop is finished.
+1 for Mint, Pop!_OS, and Debian. Faster and much nicer than Ubuntu with even less drama.
@@anonymous_opinions1924 Mint so much pre installed programs, games. I want clean mint
@Blueeeeeee Mint isn't user centric anymore. They don't seem to listen to their users; many wanted KDE Plasma to remain as a DE option (that led Feren OS to use KDE Plasma instead of Cinnamon) and many users want Cinnamon to have Wayland support, for years now. Both have been ignored; even Wayland seems to be an issue for the team.
People wouldn't complain about snaps so much if Canonical actually fixed the major issues with them vs something like Flatpaks, especially when it comes to the amount of space they take up on your drive. That was one of the main things that drove me absolutely nuts when I had Kubuntu.
I quite like PopOS for its "just works out of the box" experience, you can tell a company that sells hardware put the effort to smooth and polish things. I just wish it supported secure boot like Ubuntu, and perhaps also TPM-based LUKS encryption (to my knowledge no Linux distro yet offers the seamless Bitlocker experience in Windows).
Tbh TPM-based LUKS encryption looks like a gimmick to me. Now you rely *entirely* on the login screen to protect your (unencrypted) data, an it's doesn't add anything meaningful to the table security-wise. Remember that regardless of the encryption type you use, anyone can just open your laptop and access your data if they know your password. TPM-based encryption doesn't change that. But it puts your data at risk if the login screen has some kind of security flaw. I'd be really interested to know why you're interested about TPM-based encryption though, maybe I'm missing something here ?
is there a way in PopOS to change the mirros to eu based repos? update take ours with my slow internet because the us based repos
@@gottago1258you Ubuntu repo or popos? Ubuntu repo can be changed but not popos. Because of that I didn't continue using this distro, the update was very slow
@@gottago1258considering the company is based in Denver Colorado, and does the vast majority of its work in the USA, I doubt it.
I tried POP last year and did not like the experience at all. It was not broken, I just didn't like it. I am a Debian user for the last few years. CentOS7, Fedora and Manjaro for a few years before Debian.
I'm using Debian and have been using it for a couple months now. I first used Linux on Linux Mint, and I decided to go with Debian because, as far as I can see it, it is a simple choice. I can install whatever I want later anyway.
Linux Mint -> Debian is the perfect Linux path in my opinion. Linux Mint is perfect for beginners, and once you know what you're doing Debian is very similar but with more flexibility.
14:10 Important to note: do not uninstall snap, only the apps you don't want as a snap (like Firefox). Going into the future, Ubuntu may ship some parts of the OS as snap. Things like the printing stack (CUPS) and the kernel and GRUB if you opt into their *experimental* TPM-based disk encryption.
I won't be using Ubuntu then. I don't like SNAPS
I like how they just forgot ubuntu is a mere linux distro where people could just fork it off, and then go straight to the microsoft style, pushing the garbage they wanted without even caring about whether you liked or not
@@MIO9_shthey know alright, they don't really care about it eh.
Then don't use Ubuntu. Snaps are a hot mess.
@@thepenguinthatwalks Why are snaps bad?
I don't use it on my desktop or Laptop. But I do use Ubuntu for my home media server. Setup was easy and it works fine. No complaints.
For servers it’s really simple, yeah!
I just use BlendOS cuz i like it
I chose Zorin 16 as my first distro back when it was still new. Really good distro. A cool thing it does is installing wine automatically when you try to open an .exe. It let me enjoy the linux desktop without going through terminals and commands the first few months of which is appreciated. The themes are really nice too. When Zorin 17 finally releases, itll be the main distro ill recommend to other people
How painful is it to get a newer version of the Linux kernel installed? That was a bit of a pain on Mint if I'm remembering correctly, when I was troubleshooting game performance issues that might have been more Cinnamon related in hindsight.
Would you recommend Zorin to a Zucker for pain?
now that they have an updater its will be nice ot upgrade to zorin 17 when it drops
I liked zorin, but ITS TOO FUCKING SLOW WITH UPDATES. I liked what new gnome was doing, but zorin is stuck on gnome38 i think
@@ordinaryhuman5645 Wait, isn't there a kernel update tool in the update manager ?
I wondered why you rarely talked about Zorin OS. Having packages older than Debian though is a downright roast.
Sounds like Slack.
Me when college has everyone install ubuntu to teach linux and people have a bad experience: 👁️👄👁️
Very true and I just laughed when that happened at my uni as I gone with Linux Mint Xfce on my VM instead of Ubuntu. Others were suffering the lag-fest that is vanilla Ubuntu desktop on GNOME. At one point I had to screenshare my terminal window on a class and some got suprised my VM with Mint Xfce was not lagging to heck LOL.
Fr....in my college as well...btw I am from Asia.
@@ptzzzdude I run gnome45 with encrypted compressed zfs backstopped by Ubuntu repos on literally every computer and vm I have (which require a desktop) You can run all that on a core2duo MacBook with 2gb of ram and no 3d graphics drivers perfectly fine. There is a driver called virtio-gpu which enables fast 2d acceleration and it's associated packages can enable 3d acceleration (on Linux guests, macos doesn't have the same internal driver for the virtual GPU) A poorly configured vm will have terrible performance on any system. It sounds like your teacher didn't really know much about Linux or it's associated technologies. I have not used xorg for like 2 years, Gnome is incredibly lightweight and optimized. I understand that learning a new workflow can be difficult and using a de that resembles windows (such as cinnamon) can make using the system in the beginning easier for people transitioning Mint and many of the further spin offs have derped many of the optimizations, qol improvements, and feature tweaking that the Ubuntu team have brought into the core packages You get a new dkms Nvidia driver every 5 releases and it always works and always builds The package repos have some of the newest audited versions, while still considering the reliability of the system. Apt will resolve all of your dependency problems if you just use it properly (For reference; my workstation has a zfs pool pushing around 12-14GB/s, a massive ARC, literally my root filesystem get put into ram, then an portion of ram gets made into a ramdisk to be used as a render cache to allowing swapping rather than forcing rerenders, then about 50-55GB of project data gets dumped into ram as well, Nvidia and Radeon graphics rendering simultaneously, -- like my entire computer is basically running off a ramdisk that is transparently backstopped by storage the user never notices--- all of this is done on an Ubuntu based system created by the debootstrap utility available on any os with apt installed) I wouldn't even consider this on any other base, save for rhel and I remember the press release for the warty warthog alpha announcement... So no hats for me....
@@fastbackshots really which part of asia?
Run Linux in a VM or would they want you to run Linux on bare metal?
Mint is great although I'm currently using Bodhi Linux 7.0 based on Ubuntu 22.04 base without snaps, and is really streamlined.
I like your videos. Lots of information for this non-linux-only user. I also love seeing my home state represented in some videos. Welcome to Colorado!
I have reduced the number of Distros i use to Mint and Tuxedo. This is because they are the most stable distros I have tested in the last 5 to 10 years. Keep up the good work Nick!
I just use Kubuntu with Snaps deleted and replaced with Flatpaks.
Sounds good to me! @@deusexaethera
I was once installing ROS and was unable to install on mint and KVM was not activating on mint. Then tried on PopOS, all worked perfectly
I also like POP OS, I used before Tuxedo OS (about a year) I have zero complaints, it worked well. @@Primeagen
What is your opinion on fedora
I've been a MINT User since 3. Love It, I Tell Everyone like a Hopped Up Arch User lol But Debian 12 is Beautiful, I've been using it as my daily Driver for a Month, running Retro Games, Countless VMs MsDos-Win11... Love It! Debian 12 5 Stars
How is the Debian experience? Using mint currently and I'm willing to try a few distros before settling down
@@oladrolahola I Love Mint, but I Installed Debian 12 with Cinnamon, and Installed Flatpak.. GAME ON! Plus you have the Much Newer Kernel
@@MotownBatman hmmm, I guess I'll dip my toes into the Debian pool before anything else
@@MotownBatman Do note there's a kernel update tool in Mint's update manager though. Also the Debian repos will only be newer until Ubuntu 24.04 is is released and Mints rebases on it.
@@Blueeeeeee I understand this, not sure, just Seems to Enjoy the new Deb 12.
For me, and I have tried quite a few distros, PopOS does not have a rival if you want your computer to "just work": - Works flawlessly out of the box. Best hardware support I have experienced in any distro by far. - Most defaults are useful, no need to spend much time setting things up. - Reasonably up to date software (currently 6.4.6 kernel, pipewire 0.3.79 as examples) - Updated frequently - Great statibility (mine never broke) - Current DE is good enough, but next CosmicDE version will be big (but this is personal taste).
does it work with secure boot?
Pop!_OS is really solid. Linux Mint also has these same advantages for people that prefer something more traditional.
@@zeta_eclipse they had plans to implement it, but not sure about current status
If you like the DE it's great, but if you don't it is not an option unfortunately.
is there a way in PopOS to change the mirros to eu based repos? update take ours with my slow internet because the us based repos
After 16 years due to some uncertainty about openSUSE that was handled terribly by them on Reddit, I went to POP OS. They maintain an up-to-date kernel and video drivers. No snaps, and flatpak repo is added by default. Has Integrated tiling. Beautiful! I think in some part the new Cosmic DE will use gnome components underlying for example I've been advised on another Nik channel gsettings set and dconf write will continue to work.
Were you using Micro OS.
@@basilcat3111 I tried it but seemed useless for multi-user as /usr/bin/firstrun cannot be disabled and by default flatpaks are installed per user ( not system wide ) which means if one wants a multi-user environment then disk storage requirements could become massive. I guess I could change freedesktop policies file but straight away as can be seen this means not out-of-the box. Also, Tumbleweed is not as stable - is not at least as consistent as folks think and again it can't really be used in multi-user for reasons of it's own - such as when using an LDAP server for authentication a user must be able to set own wifi connection and one occasion the Atheros WIFI adapter was broken on a kernel ( I reported ) but that was already in the current Tumbleweed snapshot). Sure I can reboot to earlier kernel but what if I was using a systems management tool for update and my remote user didn't know what had happened. I think SUSE shafted the community here realising Leap can be corporate deployed without income to them so it seems Micro OS isn't really a replacement it's more of an ALP community experiment.
I'm looking to get back into Linux after many years of not having a choice of OS. Was thinking of Mint but this gives me food for thought. Pop! looks interesting.
Great video! If you are taking a step back and talking about Debian (and Debian-based distros), I would say MX Linux is an excellent choice for the average Desktop user. You can choose among the main desktop environments (excluding GNOME), gets a stable system with a good degree of custom made software but still midweight.
PoP OS is a semi rolling release distro. I'm using LTS version and the Linux Kernel is already at version 6.4.6 while Distrowatch still lists it at 5.16.29 version. I wish it would offer more desktops like Cinnamon or KDE. Not a fan of GNOME.
There are some excellent distros that you've mentioned in this video, and some good pros and cons. Great video as always!!
Out of all the options, Debian and Pop!_OS are the ones I recommend the most. But personally I just use Ubuntu add support for flatpak and the flathub repo as soon as I install it. I don't mind the defeault snap apps, but any desktop app I do need to install, I use flatpak as my first choice, and debian packages as my second. If I ever switch distros, I'll have a very easy time cause of flatpaks
That's nice, good video to recomment linux to new users. In my personal case, I want to give Void Linux a try. I'm just amaze regarding its hardware resources consumption. I'm currently using Arch, just waiting for it to break with an update to make the change 😂
I have been using Tuxedo and I'm a big fan. It just works and has been completely stable, even with it's semi-rolling updates.
I got into a collage recently, so i thought why not go super stable, got debian and I am happy enough, flatpak of vacodium does not have close button on Wayland ,so I went for app image Can't add libcs50 repo with curl , had to compile from source Linux have once again became a learning experience for me, This is what I love about linux
Debian stable if you want a rock solid distribution with virtually no breakages. But If you want a rolling release then just go with Debian Sid which possibly offers more stability than Arch itself!
Ehhh. Tried sid. Didn't work well with my hybrid gpu laptop. Worked well on an older laptop with only integrated graphics.
The guy who does the OpenSUSE Gecko Spin now does a Debian called Spiral Linux. Worth a look - he has integrated Suse's Snapper Snapshot & Image Rollback into the GRUB menu which is about as good as it gets for continuity after ( not likely in Debian but possible ) update which broke the system.
Arch with BTRFS and snapper is pretty good. If an update breaks it, just roll back to a previous snapshot and check why the update broke the system. That said, if you stay away from AUR (or know what you're doing...), Arch hardly breaks if at all.
@@sharktooh76 yeah, it's typically the AUR that breaks things, and even then, it's the unpopular packages that usually break
@@sharktooh76I have only touched the AUR 3 times (vscode because flatpak version is bad for me, AlienFX, and a package downgrader recommended by the arch wiki)
I would like to mention that Mint just posted a new sort of beta version of its distro based on Debian that I'm about to test when I get home actually, I'm not sure if it was rolling release as well or not, but being that it is beta, it likely isn't ancient at least
LMDE isn't new, but LMDE5 is the latest and it's based on debian 11, LMDE6 is being worked on.
Ngl part of the reason I really wanna see COSMIC come out is so that Pop OS finally gets back to intermediate releases That was why I switched to it from Mint
Thanks for the open source news, Nick!
I gave Tuxedo a go on my laptop a while back and had issues with it - but that was a while back. I'm still using Fedora after 12 months. I've had minimal issues with updates and upgrades compared with a lot of other distros regardless of the base used.
Been playing with Ventoy and will give these a try! Thanks my dude.
Nice, have fun with them!
@@TheLinuxEXP most excited to try rhino and Tuxedo. Didn't love pop! But I'm willing to try again when cosmic drops.
Zorin used to be great, but I've noticed it has slowed down significantly, even with a fresh install. I switched to Linux Mint. I love it.
looking sharp Nick ! another great video
Well done, I found what I was looking for
Its insane that I was just testing Rhino Linux in a Boxes VM yesterday. I didnt know it had apt. That being said it crashed after I pressed the update button and rebooted. They still have ALOT of work to do.
I'm a big Budgie user. It's easy to customize and has a lot of cool features.
I love Zorin, been using it for 2-3 years on my gaming desktop and a small pc for the TV.
Nick, too bad you didn't at least give a mention to Bodhi OS, which not only is the most high performance ubuntu based os which u can install on the oldest computers, but they also maintain a fork of the enlightenment project's desktop, which they call moksha. it is lightweight, fast, polished, and tons of configuration, if you want it. they were the first ubuntu derivative to use LTS releases as a base, way back in 2012 they were already doing that, now it's the standard for a lot of the derivatives.
Debian 12 has been rock solid for me. Gnome 43 is still very usable and it looks awesome with extensions. Only issue I had was Nautilus was very laggy, so I installed Nemo.
Debian 12 uses Gnome 43. How would you describe the lag in Nautilus? There used to be a bug in GTK that caused scrolling issues in Nautilus, but it's been fixed for a while now. I wonder if Debian is missing that fix. I would personally be surprised if they didn't include the fix.
@@that_leaflet It is exactly that, scrolling feels very laggy. I open Nautilus in the terminal, and when I scroll it says "GtkGridView failed to scroll to given position. Ignoring..."
I still use Ubuntu 20.04 on my systems but I am planing on moving distros once support ends and Debian has kept coming to mind because every other OS I like is technicly based off Debian already so Debian would be a lightr weight version of those distros and I can just install what I like about those distros after boot. I mostly like Cinimon DE so I will just make a lighter weight Mint with a few things its missing out of the box by 2025.
Which application is used at 8:12 to display the sources and packages? From the icon it looks like eddy but I'ver never seen that view.
I'm curious about LMDE 6 expected this month, finally Mint with the 6.1 kernel. 😃
u can manually upgrade also cinamon... I've been on kernel 6.1 bunch of weeks now
I'm running Pop_OS on my System76 daily driver laptop, almost 3 years now, and it works great even if we are tied to an LTS while awaiting Cosmic. My desktop workstation is running Debian testing and that has been very stable with some KDE bugs that come and go, but nothing major. Updates are released daily, though most are tweaks to the package rather than a true version bump from upstream. Tuxedo OS looks very interesting, but I'm not interested in another re-badged Clevo so it could be some time before I have a reason to try it out.
How's the hardware on the System76 laptop? As in build quality, how it feels to use, etc.
@@anonymous_opinions1924 Overall not terrible, but when the rubber feet started to fall off the bottom the only way to replace them was to purchase new bottom metal for $90. When the battery died it took them 3 days to get back to me on a replacement and the cost was $172.43. In contrast, I purchased an exact replacement off of eBay for $77 and had it in hand 4 days later. The screen quality is lacking; a cluster of bright pixels near the center of the screen and the back light bleed is terrible at times. The power supply is of good quality, but the cord is impressively way too short to be useful. So I would summarize as good hardware quality apart from the screen and a terrible parts replacement system, both are Clevo's fault. I am looking forward to seeing the in-house designed System76 laptop come out. I did make some videos on it if you are a glutton for punishment and want to go watch them.
Good point about Zorin, because of this video I changed to another distro with an up-to-date LTS.
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I can vouch for pop os , it is very usable and working very well with my i3 4th gen laptop flawlessly for study and coding
Mint has been described as how Ubuntu should have been. Also consider LMDE - the Linux Mint Debian Edition: most of the user friendliness of Mint, but it's based directly on Debian without any taint of Ubuntu. Disclosure: LMDE is my standard distro, and has been for years.
Linux Mint Cinnamon has served me well and kept me from having to get a new computer. Runs beautifully on an i5 Mac Mini 2012 with 16gb ram
I have just installed LMDE 6 and its very quickly becoming one of my favorite distros. Linux Mint is amazing!
For me the perfect distro would be Ubuntu with Flatpak presintalled. PopOS is kinda like this on the surface, but it must be a bit different under the hood because I managed to brake it, and that's kinda why I stick to Ubuntu, similiar story with other distros.
Sparky also comes in game edition , rescue edition , minimal CLI as well as minimal GUI edition
In my spare time I’m testing both Alpine and NixOS with Distrobox/Podman to get Ubuntu compatibility. It’s still early and I have not yet beat the learning curve on all of these things yet so I have no recommendations at this point. I am having fun though.
Great video ! But all I could focus on is trying to see which warhammer boxsets are hidden in the ferns :)
Ubuntu is the face of desktop Linux? Yes it used to be but I would not say that anymore.
As a longtime Xubuntu User, I moved away purely because of snap, now happily using Debian 12 with XFCE.
Snaps are so hated that even major linux hardware vendors don't enable them out of the box even though their os is based on ubuntu 😂. Maybe Canonical should start questioning their snap technology 🤦♂️.
Also, good luck removing Snap from Ubuntu in a few years once every system component down to Cups has been replaced by a Snap...
Ubuntu is a good OS and their desktops a lovely but it the Snaps that spoil it. You cannot remove Snap because it breaks the whole operating system. That's why I use Linux Mint which I an using with the Kubuntu desktop on one laptop and Ubuntu Gnome on another. I have all of the features of Ubuntu as well as the Mint apps but no Snap. Ubuntu should make having Snap optional like Mint does. I don't know why they don't.
It is the decision of each user and their taste. I think Ubuntu has done a lot for free software but the parent company (Canonical) must make business decisions for its business model. I think Ubuntu is a good GNU/Linux distribution, one of the most used, and the Snap package has improved a lot in recent years. Keep in mind that many developers choose to publish their projects directly to flatpak or snap.
If ifs and buts were candy and nuts we'd all have a Merry Christmas.
Thank you ❤
I love adverts, I can't get enough of them!! I must admit I do like Linux Mint but as far as Ubuntu is concerned it does have more control over the desktop but I enjoy a challenge that's why chose Linux Mint.
Calling Linux mint challenging doesn't make any more sense than calling Biden competent. Had you said you love a challenge? And that's why you love arch, that would have made more sense.
@thelinuxexperiment are you a 40k fan? Looks like an ork and space marine box on your book shelf in the background. I already loved the channel now I am just geeking out now lol
Rhino shows promise. Tried it in a VM last week. Issue after trying the update on the system took out networking stack and reverted desktop settings.. I wouldn't use it on my work laptop yet. Pop os is solid. My current distro. Pacstall works on pop too. I started Linux way back in the day on Linux mint 8 (like 2008 or 2009).. Thing is I like more modern desktops these days than mint offers. But with that said Mint is by far the best "new to Linux" distro ever made IMO.
Removing snaps and disabling telemetry is exactly what I did when I installed Ubuntu two months ago. Using Ubuntu till I can get the hang of something like EndeavourOS or Fedora (my favourite distro) gets the kernel issues resolved.
Debian's git package in the apt repository is still stuck at 2.30.2 (iirc, cant remember the exact version) - this is way behind git's 2.32.X where they removed username and password authentication altogether
Have you made video about most usable distros for tablet like devices? Meaning good overall touch support.
I really think there's an overreaction to Ubuntu's choices. Ubuntu is a great distro and Canonical gives important contribution to open source solutions besides being responsible for a huge Linux presence on IoT and servers. A passionate approach to Canonical's decisions avoids seeing things on a balanced manner.
Great Video
Ubuntu (around the 10.x days) was the first I'd ever heard of Linux. But you're right that it's been going downhill. I'm glad Debian was first on the list, though rhino looks interesting. That said, I'll probably stick to Nobara, since the others aren't as good for gaming.
Ubuntu is where I started on Linux 3 months after the release of Windows 10. From there I went to Chateau Linux. When that died I went to Peppermint. When that died I went to Mint Mate, and have been there ever sense. I installed Linux Lite for a couple Linux newbies as well, after I found they were somehow still on Windows Vista in the mid 2000s.
I'm really quite enjoying PopOS, its been pretty solid for me. I can't really stand a lot of the Ubuntu design choices unfortunately - but you have to admit they are making a name for Linux at least.
I actually used Zorin OS on my Dell laptop sometime early this year.
On virtual machines I disable snap and other update services, now days I need more work (even automating the process will still require adding tasks for each new thing I need to disable/change) to cleanup the machines, cause I need all the machines to be in same state each time I boot the virtual machine, I don't want randomly to update something, imagine you have a client who does the same on an intranet platform has a local server which doesn't needs to be updated, and you want to test localy via docker or the virtual machine.
I think Mint go a bit far with the Snap thing, but I can understand their position. Tuxedo OS looks cool. I've been thinking of making the jump to Manjaro next upgrade, but maybe I'll try Tuxedo instead.
By going a bit far do you mean blocking the install of snap? It was because a lot of Ubuntu packages pull in snap as dependencies possibly when not expected. You can change it
This video makes me appreciate Arch all that much more. (12+years at this point.) :-D
The only problem i have with modern gnome is that its a resource hog and is coded poorly. If they could reduce the overhead and make it lighter while keeping the same design, i would absolutely love to use it.
Sir can you make a video on cutefish os, is it worth installing
I may be in the minority here, but I've been using Ubuntu 22.04 LTS for almost a year now and I've been very satisfied with my experience. Granted, I don't use it for much (only Maptool and web browsing and image processing), so that's probably helping its case here.
If I have to make a choice only 2 of them suits for me: Debian Testing and Tuxedo OS. Other distros are not my story. I would not agree that debian testing Is unstable, I've tried it and for Desktop usage its one of the best choices. I feel very comfortable using Debian at all (well maintained and this glorious debian feeling of freedom), stable for servers and testing for desktop. Tuxedo OS is also great choice and I see that Tuxedo knows how to maintain their distribution. I've tried it and works great. I'm going to buy Tuxedo laptop soon and I will give it a try as my daily driver on laptop then. But... I MUCH more prefer rpm distros I've chosen Nobara which is Fedora based. Well maintained by GE Team, very recent software, stable as much as fedora and a lot of gaming tweaks. But Its not only for games, I'm using Nobara over a year on both my desktop and laptop and I'm working as DevOps Engineer on them. Works perfectly.
Should I use TUXEDO OS over KDE Neon?
I still like zorin and use it on my laptop. Tbh, i just use my lpatop for light stuff and web browsing so i installed zorin because i used before and was tired of windows. I plan on getting an m1 macbook air and dualbooting it with asahi
I have found a good home in EndeavourOS two years ago and ive been very happy
to keep some site containerized it use or node js or because i used linux mint cinnamon i use for 2 sites because i want ublock origin the web app manager
Nice video!
Iirc there is a version of Mint without systemD and the multiple vulrabilities that accompany it.
I am happy that at least all of these are on LTS the more stable releast for the very easily broken Ubuntu
pop os is best choice but only problem I faced is when I update it is hang after update and I have to manual on my PC
Debian is my only alternative to my default Ubuntu or standard derivatives of Ubuntu(ie Lubuntu, Lubuntu, Xubuntu etc.).
One point: Ubuntu Budgie does include Flatpak by default. As far as I know, it's the only Ubuntu spin that does this, which makes it my personal choice of all the Ubuntu versions.
One of my personal favorites, Sparky Linux. I know it isn't Ubuntu based, rather more of Debian based, but, it can be modified a bit easier than Debian and is very cool in its self.
What's hard about modifying Debian?
I've been eyeing KDE Neon -- does this have the same issues mentioned in the video about Ubuntu/Canonical?
I don't have a problem with snaps, although there are some downsides , they work. Flatpak on the other hand is a mess for some apps. I can't use any distros that use flatpaks for Nordpass cause the app simply won't run as a flatpak. On snap, it works perfectly well.
After almost a year of „testing“, I would say Debian testing is fine for some not too crazy gaming and standard office work. I am really surprised why not more distros actually use debian testing as a base. After all, ubuntu is not based on debian stable, but testing.
In speak of Yatu theme: Is there "Yaru Colors" like theme for GTK4, like preset for Gradience or something?
There is a Yaru Gradience theme, but it's not perfect. I had more luck manually writing out colors in ~/.config/gtk-4.0/gtk.css.
I installed mint cinnamon and vanilla gnome. Works well. Realised I prefer nemo to nautilus or even dolphin. Only odd thing is if using fingerprint unlock the first unlock doesnt’ open the user properly so goes to first boot mode.
I used: ubuntu,lubuntu,kubuntu,zorin,manjaro,mint,pop,arch and fedora (the 3rd distro i used) and i prefer fedora. I might install nobara but rn i use fedora i might install nobara in another 3 months until half a month of a distro passed
Switched to Debian 12. I'm happy.
Hey I am looking for an ubuntu based distro with default gnome DE. Is there anything like that?
Good presentation. However, you missed Linux Mint Debian Edition (LMDE). Debian with the Mint system environment including Cinnamon. You can still load Gnome DE if you like.