Top 6 CGI Movies of the Decade! | VFX Breakdown

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Nowadays the only thing that really limits VFX is the time that can be spent on it, or in other words; the budget. If production companies are willing to pay for the time it takes to get the VFX perfect, they WILL BE PERFECT. Unfortunately, this doesn't always translate into a box office hit. Although cheap and poorly executed VFX can make a good movie bad, high-quality VFX won't make a bad movie good. Like the music in this video?
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1. The Hobbit
From the offset, it was always going to be hard for "The Hobbit". The Lord of the Rings was a tough act to follow and stretching out, what was originally an average length book, into a trilogy, was always going to water things down.
What wasn't watered down was the VFX, Peter Jackson's own VFX house WETA digital took on the task, and in addition to Incredible CG environments, Digidoubles, CG water and CG fire, CG dwarfs, Orcs, and elves, WETA created the photoreal dragon Smaug. Not only did the dragon look so much like a "real" dragon, that it made us forget that real dragons don't exist, but they managed to make it talk like Benedict Cumberbatch without losing the magic.
2. Interstellar
After receiving somewhat mixed reviews but an almost general consensus that this film was too long and too complicated because instead of using fiction to explain their science, they tried to use science to explain their fiction.
What many people missed in this film were the incredible VFX that DNEG managed to produce. The jewel in their crown was Gargantua "The Black Hole". working alongside the theoretical scientist Kip Thorne, DNEG developed a new renderer called "Double Negative Gravitational Renderer" or "DNGR" which could map out how millions of light beams travel through the warped space-time surrounding a black hole. Kip Thorne and the DNEG team published a scientific study on how did this in February 2015.
3. The Lion King
Claims that "The Lion King" has "lost its soul" and "Become a National Geographic Documentary may be bad for the film but says a lot for the VFX.
MPC created 1500 shots of photorealistic animals that are so incredible that you are never quite sure which shots are real animals and which are CG, and they are all CG!
Disney's idea to remake all its animated classics using today's technology and VFX may seem like a great idea (especially to Disney's accountants and shareholders). but many feel that this is a "Money Grab" and that Disney has exchanged their childlike innocent imagination for Adult cynical realism.
4. Bladerunner 2049
Bladerunner 2049 is a sequel to the 1982 classic "Bladerunner". Making a sequel to a classic is always a daunting task, it creates so much speculation and hype that the movie is almost always going to fall short, and this would have been the case for Bladerunner 2049 had it not been for the VFX. 8 different companies worked together to created a stunning world that manages to keep you enthralled whilst the "Slow-burn" storyline unfolds before you. They are in fact so stunning that not only do you forget that you've been sat, watching for nearly 3 hours, but you realize you've had your mouth open too!
5. Avengers Infinity War
The Marvel Universe films have some insane VFX, and the majority of them have not only had good reviews but have done very well at the box office, however, for some reason, critics have been having a dig at Thanos. Digital Domain had Josh Brolin wear a mo-cap suit as well as a helmet that had 2 HD cameras running 60 frames a second to capture his facial performance. Although the most amount of work went into the eyes because the eyes are actually what convey the real emotion, a mouth may smile but if the eyes don't sparkle, there is no happiness.
6. Planet of the Apes
Rise of the Planet of the Apes was criticized for the lack of reality in the lead ape character "Caesar". However, in the latter two films of the trilogy, this was no longer the case. Weta digital proved why many consider them the "Kings of the CG Animal Kingdom", not only were the CG apes 100% photorealistic, but they expressed emotion, so much so that you don't just sympathize with them but you find yourself siding with them against the human race...
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  • I am a huge LOTR and The Hobbit fan. I am delighted that you chose The Battle of five Armies as your number 1

    @giganticwing878@giganticwing8783 жыл бұрын
  • Sad reality is that the vfx guys never got the spotlight they deserve....They are overshadowed by actors/ a-listers. They don't even get profit share & always forced to work on tight deadlines & limited budget 😑

    @LoneWolf-tk9em@LoneWolf-tk9em3 жыл бұрын
    • The same happens with the anime industry. Animators get the short end of the stick while VA's get the real money.

      @SenaSLaYeRx@SenaSLaYeRx2 жыл бұрын
    • @@SenaSLaYeRx they should create their own stuff.

      @LG141602@LG1416022 жыл бұрын
    • the screenplay is the most important thing anyway.

      @varalabeschkuni2890@varalabeschkuni28902 жыл бұрын
    • That's the reality of most crafters who work for others.

      @tf-ok@tf-ok2 жыл бұрын
    • I'd still argue that the VFX ppl make very good 6 figure salaries and get to do what they love. Unfortunately its not the VFX companies that bring the viewers for a movie, it's the director and actors.

      @gasmask4poop@gasmask4poop2 жыл бұрын
  • I'll add that Disney's biggest issue with real Lion King was that it was too real and animals dont portray human emotions well. The choice not to exaggerate facial expressions to convey more human like qualities while the animals still talk like humans was a miss.

    @dustinc6869@dustinc68693 жыл бұрын
    • I felt the same

      @manseramnil9407@manseramnil94073 жыл бұрын
  • Thanos looked amazing for the most part. Very well done

    @andyk2607@andyk26073 жыл бұрын
  • I was hoping Alita the battle Angel would make the cut. The CGI was insanely awesome

    @emeraldzzz8062@emeraldzzz80623 жыл бұрын
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      @dadalsak1097@dadalsak10972 жыл бұрын
  • I just realized that Avatar was on the decade before...... 😮😮 12 years passed and it stills compete with the actual VFX techniques!

    @hernanialves6938@hernanialves69383 жыл бұрын
    • What about the first transformers? Came in 2007, and I think it looks amazing.

      @zerogo9669@zerogo96692 жыл бұрын
    • @@zerogo9669 Yes it looks! It is also a good one in that department!

      @hernanialves6938@hernanialves69382 жыл бұрын
  • Great stuff...I do wish you would have done more on the Hobbit but then again, you didn't do enough to spoil it for me either!!

    @gigiquillian4776@gigiquillian47762 жыл бұрын
  • It's too bad that A) They didn't make _The Hobbit_ into two movies instead of three. As you said, it required some watering down (as well as fluffing it up with nonsense). As soon as I heard they had decided to make it a trilogy I knew that was going to be tempting to fill it up with fluff and that's exactly what happened; And B) They didn't take their time like they did with _The Lord of the Rings._ Yes, I know Peter was brought in after the original director left and he had to make due with what had been done, but he should have insisted that they give him an additional year to make, and, being Peter Jackson, they should have listened. They still made money but tainted PJ somewhat (his next movie tanked).

    @JustWasted3HoursHere@JustWasted3HoursHere3 жыл бұрын
    • That's very sadly not how it worked for Peter. He wanted more time from Warner Bros. but they insisted that the schedule has to be followed and they had no problems with replacing PJ whatsoever - the IP was so big that they would always find a director that would produce to the terms that WB dictates. PJ didn't want the movies and Tolkiens work to be tainted by some random hack. The workload and stress were so intense that it almost killed Peter Jackson. You have to watch some Behind the Scenes stuff. That poor man was miserable.

      @BlackThorus@BlackThorus2 жыл бұрын
    • _Swish_

      @prestonak@prestonak2 жыл бұрын
    • _Swoosh_

      @prestonak@prestonak2 жыл бұрын
    • @@prestonak _Swush?_

      @JustWasted3HoursHere@JustWasted3HoursHere2 жыл бұрын
  • So, the big complaint about Thanos is that they depicted him comic book accurate?

    @conorpm9009@conorpm90092 жыл бұрын
  • there are ways to use cgi, the hobbit is an example of how not to use excesive cgi, cgi should always be mixed with practical stuff.

    @ags8507@ags85072 жыл бұрын
    • Yeah like the 3 Lord of the Rings for exemple

      @gabrielsteinacher6118@gabrielsteinacher61182 жыл бұрын
    • I don’t think we’ll ever get a more perfect blend of cgi and practical effects than LotR

      @gizmo9836@gizmo98362 жыл бұрын
  • I love the high-effort click bait title pictures of this channel. :)

    @DigitalCasm@DigitalCasm3 жыл бұрын
  • If you look at the teaser version of Thanos at the end of The Avengers and compare that to how he looked in Infinity War and Endgame, there are VAST differences. This technology is always evolving, even during the production of a movie.

    @JustWasted3HoursHere@JustWasted3HoursHere2 жыл бұрын
  • Thank you boss, this has become additional knowledge for me as a person who likes to make short videos

    @ilhamputrawarisi2015@ilhamputrawarisi20152 жыл бұрын
  • The award goes to the people who made RDJ much taller than he really is.

    @sw1000xg@sw1000xg2 жыл бұрын
  • No no no no no. Interstellar went down in the history books as a ground breaking movie with the likes of which humanity never seen before. It was amazing the story telling was next level and the emotion that it brought out in the audience was palpable enthralling and inescapable to say the least. It enthralled us and left our souls begging for more and with the question of what if. It struck at the very core of humanity with a dream and a vision that we all ponder and want. It’s next level and the emotion it provoked was too. Instant classic unforgettable revolutionary imaginative master piece that push the envelope and did what no other movie could quite grasp. 😉 personally pulled at my heart string like few movies have.

    @daveycrockett5738@daveycrockett57383 жыл бұрын
    • I'm genuinely happy that so many people enjoyed Interstellar, but for me it was unbearable. So much boredom and crying and shiny blocky robots and a lazy concept for the finale. All that for a 3 hours long movie, Jesus Christ, I wanted to shoot myself

      @roccobot@roccobot2 жыл бұрын
    • @@roccobot I feel bad for you my friend lol 🤦.

      @daveycrockett5738@daveycrockett57382 жыл бұрын
    • The ending is so dumb and cheap that I can't really understand why people find it so deep. And to dare to last 3 hours a movie should have something more to tell. That said, I don't feel bad for anyone, I'm just happy that you liked it 🤷‍♂️

      @roccobot@roccobot2 жыл бұрын
    • @@roccobot well I guess that’s what separates me from you. I have sympathy and to a further extend even empathy and beyond. You’re missing something important it takes to throughly enjoy this movie. Possibly something you could look into and maybe fix or help or possibly change to where you could understand. Hope you find a way to enjoy this movie one day it is…. Special!!

      @daveycrockett5738@daveycrockett57382 жыл бұрын
    • Should I go to watch it?

      @imvisionhoti7198@imvisionhoti71982 жыл бұрын
  • lot of respect for you BROTHER

    @Artist_apu_drawing_world@Artist_apu_drawing_world3 жыл бұрын
  • Loved it❤

    @Moosa_v2.0@Moosa_v2.03 жыл бұрын
  • I saw the thumbnail and I was like, "Oh wow. That is so good. I would have never thought of that." Thanks for the video!

    @mr.g.9958@mr.g.99583 жыл бұрын
  • NICE VIDEO MAN!

    @metafisicacibernetica@metafisicacibernetica2 жыл бұрын
  • The writing in Bladerunner2049 was amazing. Knowing a little bit about philosophy and theology helps to understand it.

    @knowthycell@knowthycell Жыл бұрын
  • You are the king of thumbnail

    @kabdel_traore@kabdel_traore3 жыл бұрын
  • Honestly people say the new Lion King is bad but as a 3D designer I know how hard it is to achieve those shots and animation it's insane how realistic everything looks. But can't blame them though because people actually expected to bring back those childhood memories.

    @denver1329@denver13292 жыл бұрын
  • More and more perfect effects, I would like to know what the next cinema innovation will be.

    @jailsonvaldomirodasilva1803@jailsonvaldomirodasilva18032 жыл бұрын
    • We might need to forward that question to Mr Cameron

      @Tiber234@Tiber2342 жыл бұрын
    • Deep Fakes will be the next big thing. For the next decade we will see more and more realistic (dead) actors made by deep fakes. And after that: going back to real actors in front of real scenes. This will be the quality movie in 10 years, when people realize, that nothing can compare to real people in front of real nature. It will also be accepting our limits (and strengths!) as humans instead of having more and more super heroes on screen. And in 30 years nothing of that will matter, because climate change will finally get people awake and out of their fantasy worlds. While the governments will use the advanced technology to show the elites a fake paradise and keep away the "burden" of mass extinction of animals and humans.

      @Darmachakra@Darmachakra2 жыл бұрын
  • interesting video, great like!

    @lookingforplaces@lookingforplaces3 жыл бұрын
  • Well Done. Good job

    @abdulmuhit3156@abdulmuhit31563 жыл бұрын
  • Very cool man!

    @alexdib3915@alexdib39152 жыл бұрын
  • That Rachel from Blade Runner 2049 was really impressive!!!

    @alejandrotorales4174@alejandrotorales41742 жыл бұрын
  • Pretty epic

    @noamtsvi@noamtsvi3 жыл бұрын
  • intsteller is a masterpiece

    @yuvabharathdegitalmediacha1450@yuvabharathdegitalmediacha14502 жыл бұрын
    • Agreed

      @toveracre3253@toveracre32532 жыл бұрын
  • Brother I am from Bangladesh🇧🇩🇧🇩. I like your video very much. Your video is very nice. Continue

    @NBKs8898@NBKs8898 Жыл бұрын
  • Love that man talking

    @charityjoseph7995@charityjoseph79953 жыл бұрын
  • The BGM Music is too loud where as the voice over was feeble. Had a hard time reducing volume and increasing it while watching in TV. Later turned on the comments and watched it after muting the video

    @RakeshRTVM@RakeshRTVM2 жыл бұрын
  • vraiment c'est extraordinaire !

    @oliverbaimi2547@oliverbaimi25473 жыл бұрын
  • Nice work

    @balackstart2803@balackstart28033 жыл бұрын
  • All the Thanos shots in your clip were by Weta - DD and Weta both developed Thanos in parallel.

    @charlietait1@charlietait12 жыл бұрын
  • excellent information😀😃👏👏👏👏👏👍

    @Android-16-js6dn3ml2z@Android-16-js6dn3ml2z3 жыл бұрын
  • Beautiful images🥰. makes you want to see these films 10 x.

    @Android-16-js6dn3ml2z@Android-16-js6dn3ml2z3 жыл бұрын
  • Do the Swedish movie "The Unthinkable" from 2018

    @EpicAwesomeWin87@EpicAwesomeWin873 жыл бұрын
  • Love it and it’s amazing

    @zsa_stories@zsa_stories2 жыл бұрын
  • You're good bro and professional 👍 not less like BBC professional 👏

    @boot665@boot6653 жыл бұрын
  • Godzilla vs Kong is a marvelous movie with great VFX

    @Genesis-kv1ze@Genesis-kv1ze3 жыл бұрын
    • But not a good storyline

      @thefireworlds@thefireworlds3 жыл бұрын
  • I.m glad thank you so much ❤️

    @anshitpanwar@anshitpanwar3 жыл бұрын
  • I liked the orcs better in the LOR trilogy

    @TheDeven1000@TheDeven10002 жыл бұрын
  • The problem with the preponderance of VFX is that they've strayed so far into disbelief that it's devolved into video games. Physics are a thing and when it's ignored over the spectacle of the effect -- everything collapses and it just looks like a cheesy video game.

    @lohphat@lohphat2 жыл бұрын
  • me reading the title: “eh” me seeing the thumbnail: “LE CLICK”

    @me20ntime_ff@me20ntime_ff2 жыл бұрын
  • And for tv show! Definitely GAME OF THRONES

    @mustafafh4402@mustafafh44022 жыл бұрын
  • @2:02 omg I never expected Steve Smith in Apes movie 😮

    @rushilsn6148@rushilsn61483 жыл бұрын
  • Adorei esse video 👏🇧🇷

    @mirelaserafim5501@mirelaserafim55012 жыл бұрын
  • From what I understand having studied the history of Disney for decades, it was and has always been fundamentally about the money.

    @mtgbear3358@mtgbear33582 жыл бұрын
  • Critics are those who can't do, hence their negativity... Awesome vfx, Greetings from Australia PS: I know it's old school, but how about The Fifth Element fx? It was groundbreaking at the time mainly because it was European not LA bs...

    @kevin_gross@kevin_gross2 жыл бұрын
    • YES! The Fifth Element is beautiful and one of my all time favorites. Considering that came out in 1997, its just epic.

      @toveracre3253@toveracre32532 жыл бұрын
  • i relly want learn this

    @MohamedHassan-gr3rq@MohamedHassan-gr3rq2 жыл бұрын
  • As much as I hated Terminator Dark Fate, that scene with John Connor blew me away when I found out that him, his mom and Arnold were all CGI. I was like, wow they did a good job deaging them. Na they're 100% fake CG, it's amazing, bad awful movie, but amazing talent in the editing team, too bad it was wasted.

    @MostEnvious@MostEnvious2 жыл бұрын
  • I love the Hobbit, it's my favourite movie trilogy

    @naomiuchiha0906@naomiuchiha09062 жыл бұрын
  • good work

    @rashidjamil3046@rashidjamil30463 жыл бұрын
  • Quitaria a Interestellar y a The Hobbit y pondría una de las recientes de Star Wars y Gravity respectivamente. En The Hobbit aveces tiene fallas y más por el exceso de CGI.

    @abrahammacias9846@abrahammacias98462 жыл бұрын
  • Pls breakdown mission impossible VFX

    @patoskyugo5@patoskyugo52 жыл бұрын
  • Makes you wonder if Disney is becoming more like a company and less like Disney? Well, that's been going on for forever.

    @DarthTwilight@DarthTwilight2 жыл бұрын
    • Even when Walt was still alive and in charge they had to make hard financial decisions from time to time. To be fair, it is not even remotely Disney's fault that the company MPC went out of business after working on The Lion King, as they put in their bid for the project and that's what they made for their work. If they underbid the job then that is not Disney's fault.

      @JustWasted3HoursHere@JustWasted3HoursHere2 жыл бұрын
    • @@JustWasted3HoursHere What IS Disney's fault, as I was definitively alive during said time, is the terrific hate they have for children. You remember what the director (I believe) of the live-action Beauty and the Beast went on about? How he was talking about murdering the children of Trump supporters? It was retarded beyond belief.

      @DarthTwilight@DarthTwilight2 жыл бұрын
  • Interstellar is a bizarre pick. Made with minimal cgi and mostly models and practical elements. The cgi used is of high quality but not in anyway as complex as others on the list

    @sagelight7777@sagelight7777 Жыл бұрын
  • i see interstellar and hobbit, i click like

    @maherdufani@maherdufani2 жыл бұрын
  • Transformers film are also a photorealistic CGI film

    @Genesis-kv1ze@Genesis-kv1ze3 жыл бұрын
  • what I would like to see? I would like to see the cg effect showed in the thumbnail!

    @christiannielsen3863@christiannielsen38632 жыл бұрын
  • Doesn't show one finished shot of Smaug. :( The Hobbit was such a disappointment.

    @dandiehm8414@dandiehm84142 жыл бұрын
  • plzs make bhahubali movie VFX brakedown

    @chakrigoud1626@chakrigoud16263 жыл бұрын
  • How to draw animals n which app can dp that

    @athoisapam3454@athoisapam34542 жыл бұрын
  • does anybody know here..youtube channel that give any tutorial on how to use or to make CGI video?

    @sautsiadari6179@sautsiadari61793 жыл бұрын
  • Yes Smaug was outstandingly done even if you don't like the movies that Dragon was perfect.

    @xjp1998@xjp1998 Жыл бұрын
  • I agree with that DIsneys Company have sadly gone away from walts idea of "making money to make movies" and endorsed greed instead. But the VFX artists thing isn't neccesarily their fault, the company division in vancouver packed up for tax reasons apparently.

    @petop3@petop32 жыл бұрын
  • I would like to see Alita the battle angel. It is so awesome. I think WETA WORKSHOP are so fantastic.

    @larsfrosznielsen3536@larsfrosznielsen35362 жыл бұрын
  • do you have to be good at drawing to do VFX?

    @curemyboredom6622@curemyboredom66222 жыл бұрын
  • Can someone explain the Smaug dragon from The Hobbit? There's this dragon who likes gold. Okay. But what does he do with it? He can't eat it. He can't buy stuff with it. So ... insofar as I can tell, gold to Smaug is what wood shavings are to a guinea pig - bedding. Or am I missing something?

    @ollieox9181@ollieox91812 жыл бұрын
  • Interstellar is a good movie. It's a moral tale about the importance of family/loved ones, not a science-orgy as it might first appear.

    @Dystisis@Dystisis2 жыл бұрын
  • How is the VFX creating character moving Technic

    @bruicewayne9442@bruicewayne94422 жыл бұрын
  • What software do use?

    @temanbicara9455@temanbicara94553 жыл бұрын
    • For?

      @jesperjee@jesperjee2 жыл бұрын
  • Please show us Transformers breakdown.

    @mohammadfaisal7973@mohammadfaisal79732 жыл бұрын
  • Someone even criticized Rachel’s eye color

    @werdna1969@werdna19692 жыл бұрын
  • I don't know why most of the people is not talking about the VFX used in Godzilla films.

    @Genesis-kv1ze@Genesis-kv1ze3 жыл бұрын
    • ​@@AlexCR95do you have an proof for that ​

      @Genesis-kv1ze@Genesis-kv1ze3 жыл бұрын
    • @@AlexCR95 He is talking a about the Monster Verse Movies wich have the most amazing CGi

      @cauag9575@cauag95753 жыл бұрын
  • There is a way too much cgi in The Hobbit

    @malte5140@malte51402 жыл бұрын
  • Do Transformers🙌🙌

    @Sgija@Sgija3 жыл бұрын
  • I think Thanos' lips movements were really not that convincing. There is test footage out there where you see Ruffalo right next to Thanos doing facial expressions, and somehow the expressions of thanos there seem much better than in the movie itself

    @PowerRedBullTypology@PowerRedBullTypology3 жыл бұрын
  • great !

    @Pakamera3D@Pakamera3D2 жыл бұрын
  • No wonder 90% of the Hobbit looks fake. I understand why they went that way but it's so different from LOTR that looked much more real.

    @thear1s@thear1s2 жыл бұрын
  • I didn't get to the film where that happens to Tony Stark lol but thx...

    @seanarmor8200@seanarmor82002 жыл бұрын
  • Nice

    @akbaralimohmand7937@akbaralimohmand79373 жыл бұрын
  • Thanos was a revelation. Not once was I ever taken out of the movie.

    @royjones8312@royjones83122 жыл бұрын
  • Imagine s'il plante cette technologie sur les jeux vidéo

    @VISIONMOBILETV@VISIONMOBILETV2 жыл бұрын
  • 👍👍👍 Best Video

    @dragonfly4314@dragonfly43143 жыл бұрын
    • Thanks!

      @FameFocus@FameFocus3 жыл бұрын
  • Make a video about John Wick I'm sure many want to know how the stuntmen survived from this series🙄😂

    @EMMandM1@EMMandM12 жыл бұрын
  • Music?

    @petersch5623@petersch56232 жыл бұрын
  • oh yeah my favourite actor Josh Broden

    @toadspag@toadspag2 жыл бұрын
  • Where’s Alita Battle Angel? It was shown on 2019. For me it’s the best. Im a hobbit & LOTR fan, but Alita is super level up

    @layag8563@layag85632 жыл бұрын
    • The eyes on the character made her look hilarious.

      @sweiland75@sweiland752 жыл бұрын
    • @@sweiland75 i didnt find it hilarious. The movie is not all about the eyes and the vfx achievement doesnt only cover the eyes. The original trailer with bigger eyes though is really off. Good thing they decided to town it down.

      @layag8563@layag85632 жыл бұрын
  • Think about it, a dragon can't be 'photo-real'.

    @williamjason1583@williamjason15832 жыл бұрын
  • recently weta digital have worked with epic game to dev a hair shader that can be render faster than never.

    @elegansproduction6506@elegansproduction65063 жыл бұрын
  • You should see Ra. One an indian superhero movie. I agree it had weak story line but the concept, action, vfx, costume etc it maybe common in Hollywood but rare in Bollywood.

    @akramlogan6370@akramlogan63702 жыл бұрын
  • Video music name please

    @raftone123@raftone1233 жыл бұрын
  • Why the music? Why?

    @slowmoe1964@slowmoe19642 жыл бұрын
  • Surprised! Where is Titanic?

    @thechuckleshow2470@thechuckleshow24702 жыл бұрын
  • I like your videos but can you please optimalize volume of the music and your commentary? Its super annoying listening at night on speakers when I can barely hear you but music its just way too loud.

    @mike_k.@mike_k.2 жыл бұрын
  • special effects will never replace a great story and great acting

    @advertech@advertech2 жыл бұрын
  • 6:23 - Thorn NOT Throne ;)

    @za7876@za78762 жыл бұрын
  • Why did I think this was grian- you sound like grian-

    @conniedodd5614@conniedodd56142 жыл бұрын
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