Thor Ragnarok WITHOUT VFX! | CGI Breakdown | Before & After |
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When people watch a movie, they want to know who's playing the leading role, which actor is the hero and who's the "bad guy". Most people fail to see who has the biggest role in the movie, and that is VFX. The fact that their importance goes so unnoticed is a measure of how well they do their job! Like the music in this video?
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Marvel superhero films are big-budget, Hyped-up, action-packed, and over the top. Everyone wants to see them and everyone wants to take part in them, and in Thor Ragnarok, virtually everyone did. Framestore, ILM, DNEG, Digital Domain, Image Engine, Rising Sun, Secret Lab, Rodeo FX, Method Studios, Luma Pictures, Craftyapes, Exceptional Minds, Fin Design and Effects, Iloura, Perception, Technicolor, Trixter, and Whiskeytree Studios.
Framestore
Framestore provided 459 shots including CG characters, Digidoubles, and a fully CG Asgard environment. Upgrading assets DNEG built for Thor: The Dark World, Framestore built over 9000 buildings which were mostly laid out by hand using their proprietory layout tool "Shambles", and their instancing tool "FrInstancer". Working from concept artwork and references of the Norwegian Lofoten Islands, the team sculpted mountains and created 2D Digital matte paintings.
Hulk
Working closely with ILM, Framestore attempted to create The best Hulk they possibly could, Using proprietary tools like their "Flex and Flesh" muscle and skin sliding tool, complex rigging, and keyframe animation they brought hulk to life, however, Hulk's increased dialogue in the film meant that his facial features needed much more detail. ILM built an entirely new library of Mark Ruffalo's facial expressions that they captured using Medusa and provided Framestore with 90 different facial expressions. Framestore then worked alongside Marvel's "Hulk specialist and concept artist" Ryan Meinerding to build the facial rig from scratch.
Fenris
To create Fenris, Framestore studied wolves and dog motion, reference material, and concept artwork. They were originally going to make her transform from dog to giant wolf before settling on just a giant black wolf. Although the muscle rig and flesh deformation were challenging, her groom was the most complex part.
Surtur
The brief for Surtur included references to the sun, fire, plasma, and lava, he had to be a "Planet-sized Titan of fire" but shouldn't appear to move slowly, so work on Surtur was basically all about balance. The animation team had to balance Threat, speed, and scale and the shading team had to balance Transparency and refractivity with surface complexity whilst still having a sense of scale and mass.
Digital Doubles
Framestore also created Digidoubles for Thor and Hela. For Hela, Cate Blanchett wore a mo-cap suit which was replaced with a digital version of her costume and a CG headdress inspired by the original comics. For Thor, the team modeled, groomed, and shaded a hi-res version of Chris Hemsworth that could be used for both close-ups and far away shots, and then they body-tracked Chris so they could keep his original face and facial expressions.
Industrial Light and Magic
ILM produced over 400 shots which were concentrated in three main scenes, the Thor VS Hulk battle, Hulk in the Warrior suite, and the sequence when Thor escapes to the Quinjet.
For the battle between Thor and Hulk, ILM created a massive 1300ft wide and 460ft high Arena with a seating capacity for 160,000 crowd agents.
In some shots up to 100,000 crowd agents would be visible so in order to avoid possible rendering issues, ILM sliced the Arena into 24 "Pizza-slice" pieces thus making it more manageable.
Luma Pictures
Luma worked on around 200 shots for 8 different sequences, where Korg meets Thor, Loki visits Thor, Pre-fight Staging, Parade of victors, Revolution Get Gun, Boys Go To Garage, Hulk vs Thor, and the film's end tag.
Their main work was the creation and animation of the CG characters Biff, Miek, and Korg. Biff was created entirely by Luma, while Meik and Korg were collabs with Framestore. Although Luma used their own Mo-cap room to capture reference movement for Biff and Meik, Korgs performance was actually done by the director Taika Waititi in a mo-cap suit.
Rising Sun Pictures
Rising sun produced over 170 shots including the creation of the Bifrost Bridge, the palace battle, and the "Vals Flashback" scene. For this scene, Rising Sun created photo-real horses, Valkyrie and skeleton soldiers as well as other CG characters, and, working closely with Satellite Lab and their "Dynamic light" rig created possibly the most visually stunning shot in any Marvel film.
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If you think about it, it's harder for the actors to hold their laugh and stay focused while acting some serious moments. Good job for the professional casts! And VFX team, hats off 👑
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If I had WAY too much money and time I'd trick some AAActors into thinking I was making this big block-buster movie and provide them with cheap props and relase the movie with no post-production.
@@markussmedhus9717 that right there is proof people loose their sense of humor as they get crazy rich
@@user-sl6gn1ss8p Low budget movies are funny AF dude. You seen Plan9 or The Room?
@@markussmedhus9717 haven't watched the room yet, but plan to : )
VFX artists don’t get enough credit man.
Agreed 😈
Well they do get alot of money tho 👀
Agreed+1
They do get credits like most others but most people don't tend to see them though they get a lotta money
@@MshrSagafied As anybody should for doing hard work of any kind.
Thor Ragnarok is one of my favorite MCU movies! it's insane how many VFX studios work on it.
I'm glad that Valkyrie scene was included because I agree, it's one of the most dramatic and visually cinematic shots out of all the MCU films so far imo. Very lowkey scene though
One eyed Thor with the glowing eye was badass as ever! I think he looked more badass with one eye.
Thor Ragnarok is the most rewatchable movie of MCU
…and Iron Man….
Idk, i re watch guardians 2 a lot
Yes!
Avengers 1
@@amyoakAnimation those two are rewatchable in my opinion
That Valkarie Fighting Flashback scene was actually My Favourite amongst all the Marvel movies scenes...Visually it was Stunning and Brilliant work of art
6:04 Taika is a wonderful director :))
Tremendous amount of work.
And money
Of course!
All worth it
This would have been a cool concept in Wandavision. During the final battle, they could have been wearing CGI suits but then would eventually shift back into their costumes when the hex closed again. And then when the hex reopens, Wanda's suit glitches but then stays intact, showing how her powers can now be used to the extent we've seen in the real world.
I think it's CGI. Even the costumes in that certain scene
The arrive of the Valkyrie is one of my favorite shots ever. It looks so real. And this light movement makes ist even more epic.
yea more better than zack znyder crappy cinematography
She is the worst thing that happened to Thor
@@lemonchicken507 bad woke wamen is mean to my thor
@@jaycardcast it's crazy how DC has failed for so long to make the same quality movies as Marvel with the same budgets. They just need to stick with dark movies like batman because black Adam wasn't good to me, the rock just wasn't good in it
Respect to all of them who works tremendous hours to every vfx details.. i appreciate them for making my comic heroes turn to life..👏👏👏
VX Artists and Stuntmen, the most underrated yet crucial jobs in this industry nowadays
Thats why marvel studios is my favorite
Amazing film, fantastic VFXs, and very well explained by you! 👍
Thumbnail 👌👌
That 1000 flashes with phantom camera really amazed me
The fact that their importance goes so unannounced , is the measure of how well they do their job.. Thats OP line
VFX artists: Reality can be whatever I want
Underated joke.
@@kingdinogorilla3618 best part is, doesn't evn have to be a joke nowadays
@@kingdinogorilla3618 overrated comment.
Two minutes silence for the Thumbnail 😆😆😆
😂😂😂😂🤣😂
Nice to see the hard working artists that makes these movies possible getting some of the spotlight for a change.
Nice job at putting this video together. Your subject was great but your montage made it pop. Thanks for your content, I appreciate well cut and edited videos like yours and reason why it made me subscribe to your channel.
this is the kind of stuff I love to learn about! really makes me want to watch it all again!
Nice job to the teams working tiresly behind the scenes🙌🙌🙌
this is an AWESOME breakdown. gained a sub.
Awesome channel with awesome voice of the host.
Thank you to all the amazingly talented skilled people who created one of my favourite movies 😁🥰🥰
Yalls behind the scenes vids are AMAZING!! Whole diff way to see the true pictures #realityforthewin
Hats off to the workers who have done tremendous work
There are a lot of people out there who hate on CGI but really I love it as long as it's good quality, which for the most part the MCU is.
Fun fact: The time into making Thor Ragnarok is the equivalent of photoshopping every single frame that had possible vfx. Edit: It's a simple exaggeration on what it's like to create cgi for the movie, for those who don't understand PS: Nice I have three digits of clout
What?
@@bigben6564 He means it quite literally; these VFX artists spent so much time on it that it's as long as if you had edited every single frame of the movie in photoshop. The difference being that in Photoshop the continuity between frames would be slightly worse
lol no it takes longer.
This is absurd man. I love it
So what did they do on Tom, why is he so charming
LOL
Nothing bro, he's natural
Great video!
Perhaps one of my favorite movies of all time. They did a great job.
Great work
Probably the best CGI movie to date. Good job dear artists. You should all be very proud.
I mean not really. I agree that the CGI is awesome, but it's the same as all other new Marvel movies (except Black Panther lol). I think that the word for what you have in mind is the style and cinematography that it has as that's just uniqe.
@@fourcgames7568 True true. There are many ways to categorize good CGI. As Ragnarok is completely world building, with majority of the acting done with green screens, It is one heck of a CGI movie. Then we have CGI blending, CGI placed in real space and I would give an award for the best mixed CGI to Neil Blomkamp and his team of artists.
rising sun did the best effects in this movie. absolutely beautiful
Wow this will be my favorite
I will never look at a movie the same again...
So they couldn’t make Hela’s head piece for real? Literally watching them replace entire sets with vfx ones.
something that size would wobble around and wind up looking silly as a piece of costume. It doesn't have as much "weight" as rendered in CGI, but it obviously wouldn't bother this particular character.
They wouldn't be able to do the seamless transition of her hair into her headpiece if they use physical effects. To even get close would take twice as long to shoot those scenes, but it would never be perfect would be cut away clips. It's unnecessary time, effort, and money.
Did she have to go bald to wear it on her head
@@LayneBenofsky When I first saw the move I didn't even realise it was CG, then I saw some behind the scenes and was left thinking it was probably for the better that it was CG, because of all you said.
Why do you even care? You had no idea that the head piece was CG, don't try to tell me that you knew. And of course they had to do CG sets when there is Hulk and other CG characters that need to interact with the set. It's easier to do it via CGI.
Astounding! This film is awesome, in my opinion, and THIS is why I support the film industry - for this film anyway. So how many people actually worked on this film overall? A million or more perhaps? Buying the Blu-ray and a Disney+ sub doesn't feel like enough support to be honest.
Epic!
Hillarious thumbnails as always
Well done
Thank you!
That Valkyrie scene is gorgeous.
Amazing ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
you are awesome thanks !
Omg, just found your channel by mistake... Wow!
These people are GODS!
I think they should just publish a version of the movie with no VFX work at all, just match the camera and sound, then send it out. But also show the actual movie below it, to show how much different it actually is
Those aren't single shots, they're multiple videos shot separately stitched together. I don't think you would see anything without VFX.
@@anlumo1 Well, yeah, but they have to apply each part in order; what I mean by no VFX isn't literally just no editing whatsoever, I mean just stitch the videos together, with no CGI or greenscreen filling, and show that.
Given that there are multiple full CG shots, you wouldn't see much.
Amazing..!!
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Best Thor movie, cant wait for the new one!:)
Not really the 1st one will always be the O.G. How you gonna say this is the best THOR MOVIE he didn’t even have his hammer wtf
soo cool
And here I was thinking actors were gods. VFX artists must be given utmost appreciation.
And people still complain about CGI!!! This stuff is just amazing!!!!!!!!!!!!!
VFX masterpiece.
Good Video
I love the VFX'S teams works so much. For me Thor ragnarok has the 2nd best vfx's after Zack Snyder's justice league. Justice league for me is a state of art.
Nice Brother......have with you
Man of steel vfx breakdown please! 🥺
I didn't even know that digital doubles existed. Makes me wonder how much of the character is the actual actor now
Deadpool is 70% digital double
Actors are going to just sell the rights to use their digital likeness in the future.
It's no wonder Sir Ian McKellen CH CB was disgusted with "acting" in the Hobbit.
I mean how else do you want to create a realistic way of actors interacting with CG characters or CG sets? It has to be CG. I mean it doesn't have to be, but it's much easier that way. And I don't know why people even care. Nobody can say that they new that the body of a character was CG in some shots because it's seamless. It's really well done and mostly invisible.
Hmmm looking back, when Thor and the Hulk punch each other, it is fast and most of the times from a distance to keep it believable. I do not envy anyone having to make this cause it sounds so difficult but mad props. One of my fav Marvel movies.
good video of the nation
this is the real magic
Imagine if these VFX were the HEADS of A Video Game Company OMG!!!
Tell them
When I watch a movie, I always think of the VFX artists. They are the real hero of the movie.
Same! I've tried VFX for a project and it was hard af.
Awesome 😈🙃🕹
This saves a lot of time and effort.making actual.props and settings
I think you underestimate how long it takes to make these digital environments. Movies like this spend a year or two in post production where all this stuff is edited in.
well, DUH ! I knew all know all that because I stay and read the credit role, sparkey.
Ragnarok is one of my fave from MCU.
Oh sweet so Asgards mountains are modeled on the ones outside my window!
Incredible Imagination
Well done😀😇😥😥😮😮😁😁😂😂😃😃😄😄
Fair play.
Interesting
I need to learn a lot from Fame Focus for clickbaiting thumbnails
You'll never find What's shown on thumbnail in Famefocus videos😤
Should rename himself Shame focus, with his own green suit used on almost evey thumbnail.
Almost 6:02
It’s kinda hilarious how badly photoshopped the thumbnail is. There’d no point in putting so much detail into that costume, since most of it would be CG’d away. Plus, his head is too high for his body
Grand salute to you MARVEL
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It shows that how marvel works on its movies vfx that's why marvel is on top😊
would be amazing if we got the avengers age of ultron vfx/cgi break down wouldn't it
Thanks for giving credit to the VFX guys BRUH
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That's the second video I watched of yours that had a thumbnail that wasn't in the video. There won't be a third.
I thought this video was going to show me a bunch of clips from Ragnorok without CGI.
No wonder this is the best MCU movie ever
6:01 I don't remember Thor & Hulk making out in the movie...
Which vfx studio do you want? Marvel: yes
@0:41 Yep, I've told few folks the VFX scene in these films - are not done by just a handful of folks but entire studios, different ones at that. I'm actually more interested in the VFX studios myself.
My favorite Thor movie
it's really more of the camera man as the *BIG* role.
wont be long before actors aren't even needed anymore lol VFX are crazy! imagine what they will be able to do 20 years from now...scary!
I'm totally gonna kneel to Cate Blanchett
Vfx team are the base of movies
nice video, whats the music??
Star Wars Director: "Please stop making the lightsaber noises with your mouth. That's supposed to be added in post."
honestly...I understood nothing in this video, but I still watched it entirely.
Do you like Thor with long hair or short hair ? 🤔🇮🇩 A. Long B. Short
B
A
Thor is actually supposed to have long hair so A
b
B for fit thor A for fat thor