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The Tragic Tale Of Jesse Lingard
The Tragic Tale Of Jesse Lingard
The Tragic Tale Of Jesse Lingard
It's a real shame he didn't stay. For us, and for him.
The fact Ole stopped him going West Ham is a disgrace for me honestly
Didn't expect you here
The streams were very nice by the way
I agree
Goat
jesse is like that one guy at school that was way ahead, but then when he actually got a challenge at school he couldn’t do it because he was used to everything being done with effortlessness, and then he kind of fell off, but way more tragic.
west ham was a challenge for him? and he beat it.
Damn.. Guess, you've described my life in a nutshell. Any advice you could give on how I can change?
@@rileyanderson8010 do stuff for yourself and not for anyone else lad, helped me loads
@@rileyanderson8010For me, it was coming to terms with my failure and how I allowed other people’s opinions of my failure to control me. Then I started the work of moving on.
lingard is like a worm eating a pie
As a forest fan, I can tell you that jesse has been injured for the last few weeks and has been playing a much deeper role than he usually does. He could be better but when he's played, most forest fans will tell you he's not too bad.
True he never plays bad just unfortunate results for the whole team and he did find some form and performances but World Cup happened and then injured unfortunately
I really hope he finds some form soon honestly
I feel like Jesse and other youngsters at United over the past like 5 to 10 years really had their growth torpedoed. Having constant instability with systems and coaches, some managers not playing the youth, some managers afraid to adjust the lineup, and systems not really suiting the attackers at the club. Jesse felt like a talent but needed to be molded and mentored, United were in rough times I think some managers really were afraid to take time to develop guys and focus all energy on winning games. I don't think he did himself many favors at times either, but I loved the kid. The club didn't have much in the way of senior leadership at the time either which didn't help matters. I really wish he would have worked out at United even off the bench or going back to West Ham. I would have liked to see his energy and counter attacking ability within the squad for ETH.
Makes you think that if he were at Utd in past if he would’ve been dealt with better
@Vizeh undoubtedly man, the entire situation would repeat a cycle. New coach hired, win games, buy new players, team starts to falter and won't gel, then coach just focuses all energy on saving his ass lol if you surround him with a supportive environment mentally during such a dark period I think his carrer is in a different space. You hear the stories of a Manger like Fergy and how he cared about you beyond the pitch, how he'd ask about your wife and kids. You hear the same with ETH we saw how he just totally backed Sancho after he lost multiple family members. The man management beyond the pitch just wasn't there for Jesse or really Marcus either.
@@zachsutton231 at least rashford is young enough to be properly mentored by ETH not Lingard though
i swear vizeh makes the best content, way too underrated
Thank you for love
Great vid! From a forest fans perspective, Jesse is crucial to this teams success. Although he's been nothing less than disappointing in his game time, along with picking up an injury that held him out about for about almost 2 months (including WC break), Jesse's outgoing, and loving character is the glue in the locker room with 30 new faces. Every time forest win, it's a huge reaction from the fans and the team no matter the opponent. He bought into the culture of diehard fans that forest have, and he brings that energy day-in day-out no matter the minutes he plays, he's always the first to celebrate or comfort after a big moment or a mistake. His leadership is a quality he will carry with him wherever he goes in life. Everyone talks about his wages at forest, which is both fair and unfair. Sure we should be getting much more on the field but, in my opinion, what he's brings to the locker room is almost priceless.
He's done naff all what a waste of money he was 😂
I'm REALLY pulling for Jesse this season - and next, should we beat the drop. Especially if he has a tangible hand in survival. There's yer challenge lad - let's do it!!
I’ve been hooked on your videos ever since you started doing these types of videos, keep it up bro
Means a lot bro!
Loving these videos recently
Big fan of Jesse and love the fact we have him at Forest. While he hasn't hit the best form he is always there and involved with the squad. He's scored in some of our cup matches and I think he's really good for the dressing room.
I hope he smashes it in the 2nd half of the season!
@@Vizeh Hope so too! He's just coming from an injury so we can hope 🙏
The audio mixing is really good this video your vocal really blend with the background sound and the base is just right keep up this good form bro
Thank you haha! I’m happy someone noticed!
Whenever I see vizeh post a new video I know that it is going to be a banger!
Another banger of a video Viz. As a United fan and therefore having watched him for the best part of 5 years I can say with strong conviction that he was just never really that good and a squad player for a mid table team at best. Yes the guy had his moments like the Fa cup final goal and scoring the occasional banger but when he started he was consistently underwhelming. He never looked like he had any star quality in him and often looked very average. Other than a 2 month period of very good form between Nov to Dec 2017, he was very underwhelming. I’m glad he left because as seen this season he just isn’t top team quality. He was at best a moments player who played on hype and emotion but when played consistently, he would always be 5/10. I know he’s been through some stuff mentally, but over his whole career, the fact still remains; he’s an average midtbale/ relegation side footballer who only played for United for so long because of the inadequacies of the club and the fact that he was from the academy. A moments player who was overrated when he was rated and now everyone has found out how average he really is.
What a comment mate, a lot to go into! I appreciate your support massively
I feel like you should do an impartial, unbalanced video on Pogba. In my opinion, someone utterly vilified by pundits and the mainstream media, who could almost do nothing right. For example, he got criticized by Giggs for posting a Quran recitation. Hope you read this.
Personally (despite the player he was), I'm not sure if Giggs is the right person to lecture Pogba on anything these days.
@@MrSmith1984 Giggs has absolutely zero self awareness if he's thinking he can talk ill of anyone. One of the biggest flogs in football.
As a United fan, it’s sad to see how his career has ended up. I watched him play live many a time for the United youth team, including that youth cup winning year. I really hoped he would make it as a regular first team player. I liked this video but I think explaining more about his personal life (his mum’s depression and Jesse having to support his brother and sister) would have explained more about what he has battled with.
Where did you get the background audio. It’s amazing. Top quality content right here
I feel like I might get so much flack for saying this, but because of how he is at the very least from the games I watch him, he is willing to be a work horse and roam around and find oppotunities, he would have fit into the current Man United's squad under Ten Hag as an impact sub. David Moyes and Solskjaer usually plays him very uncomfortably, where he is much more restricted and therefore unable to roam and create opportunities as a CAM, so he felt stagnated. As soon as he switched to West Ham, where he is more comfortable and able to roam, he is brilliant. So I think it is sad that he couldn't have stayed for one more year and maybe let Ten Hag try him out, because he was put into systems where he cannot be the best of his ability, but by the time he left the club a manager comes in and changes said system that would have fit him otherwise.
I like to think that under ten hag he can do really well
He might have played a few games as an impact sub, but that's about it, hence i'm happy he's not sitting on the bench here and wasting his career any longer. He still has the potential to become a good player in a mid table club, but for that he needs to work hard on his fitness and his game, which at this moment i'm not sure he wants to do.
I agree with your assessment but Man Utd have too many better options to play than Lingard. He had to be let go because he’s also too good to be sat on the bench.
Scoring a winning goal in the FA Cup Final for Manchester United would be most boy's and players dream come true. He lived it, jesse has not failed. He became a professional footballer, winning honours and Playing for his country. He succeeded in his ambition. He became the top flight football player he wanted to be . Hopefully he will find more success with Notingham Forest or another club. Thank you jesse for some great memories. MUFC OKAY.
Thank you for your lovely words about my son And don’t worry he’ll be back Cz I gave birth to a winner 🏆
Don't stop with these vizeh love em
Thank you man!
Thanks for covering Lingard. He's one of my favorite players. Whenever I play fifa I always keep him because of his iconic celebrations and the bromance he shares with Rashford and Pogba. Shame it hasn't worked out for him.
loving the content lad
Thank you mate!
He achieved a lot in his career. Many players wished they played for the clubs he represented and scored in finals
Like what
@Devil's Advocate if you don't know then you don't know the player
@@whodoyouratemore among others fa cup final goal. Played in World Cup.
@@JulianHat 👍🏿👍🏿
What happened to Jesse only shows how cancerous and toxic the football fanbase and community is, often assuming we know everything about a player or club only to show after a hypocritical and cynical behavior towards people who we know nothing about . Great work Viz as per usual, keep on going ! We need a Authentic football clubs video
He was shit, as simple as that.
Do the Rise and Fall of Theo Walcott!! The supposably next super star for England
I’d love to see him go back to West Ham or join somewhere like Everton where he could be a real key player. Valued and started every week.
I love Lingard. The weirdest part was I expected him to bounce back the way Rashford has. I think the managers at United (especially Ole), as well as the extremely critical United fanbase on social media might have affected him beyond repair. And funnily enough, I don't mind the fact that he was all over social media, or the dances he did. What was more important was that he clearly had a bond with his team mates and wanted to put his best out for United, both on and off the field. I can relate to that, that need to do right by those that lit that fire under you when you were younger. But his experience in the senior team probably left him disillusioned as both a player and a fan. Do I think he can bounce back? Yes, but he's going to have to reconcile his experiences at United with the senior team with what image he had when he joined the youth team
Certainly sheds a lot of light on a misunderstood player and man. Still can't forgive him for the FA Cup Final, made me cry when we lost that.
I don’t blame you at all
I watched Jessie's interview with the CEO. He is solid man. thanks for posting this as well.
It´s sad to see such a talented player be wasted by a club,my club he must be depressed from feeling so betrayed by the club that gave him such a bright future just to let the flame die.
Love the video
Love you being here!
Nice video😁 Can you do next Julian Draxler?
Maybe lad, I loved his FIFA 14 card😂
He has been an integral part of my team Forest staying up, just by his exemplary attitude in training and dressing room. I wish him all the luck in the world.
And warming the bench
Really thought he was going to stay at west ham, going back to united really messed him up. Can understand it though as he came through there academy. Still he just doesn't look happy any more playing, hope he can sort what ever it is. Great vid as always, though thought the next vid would be about Jackjack grealish after sitting through them tiktoks! 😆
I remember Jesse Lingard was such a baller at United during 2018 and I thought he was truly back when he was at loan at West Ham. I felt sad when I was proven wrong. Lingard is still a baller I'm sure. I hope he can find his form back and go back to bagging goals and assists.
There’s a player in there, that’s the annoying thing
Idk how this man went from making mid fifa vids to full documentary’s
This one I wouldn't say is a documentary but I like to explore and investigate these type of stories, I must say FIFA sucks though
Agreeee
Jlingz was a good player. He can still be great. Hope he has an renaissance in his career
I think he can pick up form again soon!
@@Vizeh couldn’t disagree shame what happened at United. Wish him the best
@@Vizeh Sadly people think he has had a bad career or something he hasn't lived up to which I can agree with but as a united fan, however he was a good servant and has i would say had a good career he can look back at, playing for your boyhood club the shame about it all is that he didn't get a send off from united tbh but he will come back i believe he will have a run of form soon.
@@mrdank3111 I agree mate he was a talented player despite not reaching his potential. He will back one day
I've always thought that Lingaard wanted the glamour and lifestyle of a footballer without wanting to put in the hard work that comes with it.
Forever Jesse❤❤❤
He said I never visit my clothing factory. Class mate.
Ive been watching man U since I was 12 (im 24 now) and that old footage of Lingard shook me. I barely remember that time it feels like hes so young and has time to develop, but no…. This is the end
As a United fan I really liked Lingard. First of all watching academy player get his chance in first team was great. He had slow start but it looked like he could be nice squad player. In system that suited him, he was able to get nice moments. Probably not at huge club but certainly at PL level. When he went Wst Ham it looked like great place for him. Unfortunately he wasted year coming back instead of going there permanently. Nottingham never felt like the right place for him. I hope there's still some future for him but it doesn't look like it. Seems the spark has gone.
I remember for over a decade the hype was all about his being the bright young thing, a developing talent. Then folks cottoned onto the fact he was 27.
He joined my club Birmingham on loan for a month scored 4 goals in his debut
During ole time, he often cannot hole the ball well for attacking play or spreading the play. Still remember ole shouted at him to keep the ball when we’re playing during covid period. When he moved to West Ham, he strive because it is counter attacking which play to his strength, tiredness runs. He would be one of the player we need if he switch to the wing to play, before we even get Sancho.
He really should've stayed at West Ham. He was the man on their team and he got so much love and recognition there
Ole stopped him going there sadly
Fans who never play the game on a high level will never understand the hard work and pressures a that come with it.
Jesse hit the griddy after scoring so in my opinion pretty good player
He was picking up before the World Cup at Forest, then gets injured in the first game back. If there was no break at the WC he would have been starting most games still.
Next one Paul Pogba or Neymar Back in a day around 2015/16 those two were supposed to carry a torch into new decade after Messi and Ronaldo dominance along side guys like James and Dybala, but it never happened to none of them
How he didn't get picked for Euros is beyond me was one of the best players in 20/21 epl
Lack of focus from the coaching staff (what to focus on, what position to focus on) and player himself was not focussed. Raw talent is nothing without precision
I’m still a fan. Hope he makes a comeback soon.
Even when he is not playing here at forest he is massive for morale around the club, just being a great guy all round. He has shown glimpses of being brilliant for example against spurs, Blackburn and crystal palace then he was injured and hasn't really got back in yet. We love him here tho
He looks like he’s enjoying himself which is confusing me on why it’s not worked out yet
@@Vizeh yeah I just have a feeling that he's gonna kick on when he is back from injury, absolutely brilliant videos by the way!
definition of “wasted potential”
He didn’t fail. He scored goals in finals for United. Turned up when it mattered 👍
That dab 😭😭😭😭
I agree it's a shame Jessie has not yet lived up to the expectations. I think it's pressure which is holding him back. Not just at club level but international also
What? He was never expected to be a world beater
They don't need to be robots they just need to have some character that will bring out some sense of responsibility and professional pride.
At the end of the day, people need to have realistic expectations on Football Players in general. Especially when it comes to youth players from the academy. I say this because I felt that people had unrealistic expectations on Lingard, despite the fact that the vast majority of United Academy Products never really establish themselves in the First Team at Old Trafford or even play for United at all.
Exactly Youth players with pressure very rarely works out
@@Vizeh Agreed, that's why I am in favour of reforms to how Football Youth Academies are run, such as having additional Non-Football Education Activities (including on Social Media) for players and by establishing Proper B-Teams (to ease the transition from Youth Football to Professional Football).
It's sad, cause not many people care about him just cause of the way he celebrate goals. Because of that people normally don't really care about him as a person
During one of the chances he got to prove himself, he was Captain for United with a very young side, it could have been a cup game or something. Bearing in mind he was Captain and should have been showing maturity and leadership, he scored a goal and as Chong ran to him to celebrate, Lingard ran away from him and straight to the camera to show off his stupid celebrations. He is so immature and attention seeking that he has no place as a Captain, and for someone who was at United for ages it showed that he would never be the right person to play in a top team. It's all about him and always will be, so to answer your comment - Don't complain that no-one cares about him because he does not seem to give a f**k about anyone but himself.
Whatever you think of him as a player, he is still a human. A lot of it comes down to jealousy and bitterness. He obviously is struggling or has struggled mentally, people should keep their abuse and look at their own lives to find out why they are so bitter
Good point!
If Lingard was more focused on his football than social media, he could have been so good. He was brillant at West Ham and I think he should have went there on a permenant transfer.
Ole definetely harmed Jesse by forcing him to stay at Man Utd last season and not go to West Ham 100%
Utter waffle about his situation at Nottingham Forest. It took a while for everyone at Forest to bed in. Just before the World Cup break Lingard started to look really promising, then the break came and then he got injured. He isn't a "bench player", he's still injured. He seems to be massively influential within the dressing room and on the bench, please do a little more research besides stats...
I said that he was injured from december? You may not like the stats but from the expectation from what people had at West Ham going into Forest it's fair to say that him becoming an influential figure in dressing room is his main asset shows that he's not perfomed to peoples expectations. Which is a fair comment considering the fact we all know how good he can be
@@Vizeh Sorry mate, thought you said injured in December! Unfortunately he had another set back in the cup Semi 😭 Yeah I agree that he’s somewhat underperformed, however with fitness, us making 24 (or so 😂) summer signings (now 30), limited minutes and injuries until he has a proper run I’m not gonna judge him - I doubt he’ll see this lmao but as you mentioned he’s gone through a lot mentally recently anyway so constantly saying how good he can be, stats, etc ain’t gonna help. Appreciate the content, but as a forest fan this one kinda hurt and I bit 😂 😂
@@norman1512MC 'looking really promising' is a pretty big drop off from how good he was at West Ham.. he was basically the star player there for 6 months. At United he had some amazing moments as well so for someone staying in the same league you'd have expected him to light it up at Forest when fit
bit harsh, been unlucky with injuries coming at the worst time when he was coming into form and the narrative that he has 0G/A for forest just isn’t true they have just happened to come in other competitions
3:48 I cant 😭😭😭
As a United fan I pity what he said putting on a shirt of a big club such as United is not for anyone. The fanbase is big so when you don't perform everyone comes in. Now I feel sorry for Maguire
Didn't come back from Russia in 2018. Genuinely one of the bright sparks at United at the end of the Mou era and its such a shame it didn't pan out. Looking back its easy to say we should have let him go to West Ham on a permanent deal but they didnt want to pay the money so its hardly Utd's fault...
Make a video about Danny Rose
I like JLingz's personality and only he knows the decisions he makes. But I found it baffling why he chose forrest over West ham, I started watching West Ham just to see him shine when he was on loan and I thought, yeah this is his club but hey... hopefully he turns things around
He’s unique in his persona definitely! Makes me want him to succeed more
Be nice if Forest could get one performance out of him this season. Quality player just not had any effect on the pitch
People that hate him be gettin mental breakdowns if they see an email of their boss they need something finished ASAP
Felt like he was more in love with being a celebrity than a footballer
That’s a fair description
His dab came from where ?!? 5:45
Nice man this dude was making ooga booga fifa vids before
oogba booga videos🤣🤣
He still is a wonderkid with potential even at 30 the rules don't apply to the linegardinho
I think we (united) messed up big time by not letting him join West Ham on a permanent. There was so much confusion as to why he wasn't allowed to make that move and I don't think that was his fault at all
This guy is still a great player and has a good few years. What’s going on - the social media, the drinking, the dabbing - it’s classic escapism. The guy clearly has a lot going on. But society thinks that because your famous, you have to take critique, 24 hours a day. 7 days a week. None of us here could lace his or many others boots. Whilst we’re all entitled our opinion, it’s those that go out of their way to voice it directly. I’d expect the guy can’t even walk the street without being told what someone thinks of him. I can’t imagine most people would be resilient to it. He needs a hug and to be told that he should just concentrate on him.
I don't believe that you understand what the word GREAT means.
@@ian0143 well, anyone paid thousands of pounds per week & playing in one of the best leagues in the world, comparatively against most people, by definition, he’d be great as he far supersedes what would constitute as average. Even by that of a professional footballing standard.
Bro is just chilling earning 200k a week
2:29 nah, imagine being an angsty 14 year old and getting skinned by a near toddler
Dude, it's not that people think that despite what money footballers earn, they should be able to handle the criticism that they get. They HAVE TO handle the criticism that they get. Football is festooned with examples of talented players who could not cut it in front of a crowd of supporters, it;'s the ultimate test between amateur and pro. If you've made the cut, it seems kind of unlikely that "I was drinking because the supporters were being mean to me." I'm not buying it at all.
The moment he signed for Forest, I knew it was a season that was going to end up disaster.
Dude should had never went back to United after that great loan spell!!
I saw a comment here saying that Lingard is average. To an extent I agree. But like the thing with players like Lingard, Alli, Quaresma, Ravel, and all the failed wonderkids of our era is that, no disrespect to anyone, but on their day, they can turn the game around by themselves, they can create things outta nowhere, and honestly these are the players people come to watch, and these are the players who catch the eyes and capture the imaginations of fans everywhere. So, when you're at a position like that, there will always be eyes on you, cause people know what you're capable of, and the entire baggage of expectations come across, and I wouldn't say it's their fault that they couldn't respond back to the criticism and press, cuz they are young lads and have no idea what's going on honestly, trying to catch up with so much fame and attention at such a young age and it's just the thing is, I just wanna say that even if they don't ever "realize their potential", i hope they can handle things better now in their personal lives and find some fucking peace. But yeah, Viz, my man, you've been amazing, great vid.
And another thing about especially Lingard here is, that i think he is one of the very few people in football, who has got actual personality, Pogba actually comes to mind as well. He does things his way, and is not a robot who is defined by his xG and expected key passes in attacking areas or whatever, and whether it is unprofessional or not, it really is his club's or his manager's opinion that matters and the way the media portrays him is just fucking atrocious and i cant imagine the pressure the lad's been under honestly
Great comment dude, I do agree with you to be fair that they are good players but not great players
"Beans!"
Hardly a tragedy. That man made a killing out of football and is rich for life.
Never rated him Flash in the pan Became to big for his boots started to believe his own headlines Just like Delli Ali He couldnt get the time because he just wasnt good enough His bloopers video really sums him up If you truly have it getting the time on the pitch will sort you out Essentially just too dumb Just like Delli
We should have let him go to West Ham at the time, for a fair but nothing crazy amount. Win-win for everyone. A shame, the talent is (was) there.
Manchester United and Ole screwed Lingard over for not allowing him to leave for West Ham permanently. I won't forget his best season at Manchester United was under Mourinho and Moyes really wanted him at West Ham after his excellent loan spell.
ling ling in the championship
No way bro wearing a Vlone shirt. That's the reason he's form not coming back.
He should of stayed with us at West Ham. Its a damn shame...
Not really a tragic tale, he's done well with the talent he has. He's had some patches here and there were he looked like a top player. But he never looked like a world beater like Dele did/ should have been.
For those who's girl leave you just leave her and forget her . Just move forward
From his point of view why work hard why concentrate on your career why train hard , why take shit why be the best you can be when you are getting 800k in your account every month. They don't care
For me he is a kid that got drilled into a footballer. Like many other players he just lost the fun for the game and I feel that
That is a good way to explain it actually
I have seen only Bruno succeeding in utd. Something wrong in utd
Could of came to newcastle and let eddie train him to be better just look at what eddie done to almiron, Newcastles long term future was looking great but short term wasnt fully sure where we would end up this season. He snubbed us for money and the same for west ham and i remember an article with someone saying hed regret moving there. Not saying he deserves it but def couldnt see the wood for the trees, ironically he now sits next to wood on the bench and cant miss wood if he tried lol
He should have absolutely stayed at westham as the big man, unfortunately westham didnt think this through
He didn’t fail, the club failed him
Despite of all, Jesse Lingard is a horrendous player, no skills, no dribbling, no shooting, no nothing.
He doesnt have to prove shit to shitty people. They´ll look away or find other faults and flaws. He needs to prove it to himself.