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Could you not just use this on Rory's nicked bike? Or does Carly only work on cars?
I see CarVertical didn't want to touch this one...
Sorry Alex, Carley is really bad and makes up stuff wrong with car. Said I had a ECU fault on Volvo V70, only at Volvo Dealer, said not a hope, was perfectly fine. Also to much money to continue to have features.
@@m8jorerror220 Yup. My own personal experience with Carly mirrors the many negative reviews on TrustPilot. My issues aren't so much to do with the product itself, it's more the poor (i.e. total lack of) customer service, expensive auto-renewals with no reminders and a refusal to engage in terms of refunding the auto-renewal transaction. The 'customisation' functionality is pretty much limited to BMWs and just how few marques are supported by functionality is conveniently NOT made clear.
@@m8jorerror220 Carly only reads data from ECU's and Control modules, it cannot make up stored faults. Highly likely you found historic faults on first scan that had not been cleared in the past, once cleared they will not return. all faults are mileage stamped for future reference. this is why it is suggested to first clear all faults then scan car after a few days of use to determine actual issues. Hope this helps.
You can take the man out of Birmingham, but you cant take the Birmingham out of the man.
True story 😂😂😂
Birmingham man here agreed 👍
😂😂
Audrriiiiite mayte
@@hiphophero But buuutt.....
So now Rory has lost over £91K on motor vehicles, get some help lad.
In all seriousness I think Alex did him dirty with Big Pete. Rory definitely didn't need that motor and it's going to cause him nothing but huge problems and cost a fortune. Alex being his mate should have done better tbh.
I feel like he's not a car guy lol
@@seancorrigan3531 Rory should have known better….
@@seancorrigan3531 Careful, he might read what you said with a sarcastic voice in the next video..
@@louissanderson719 he clearly has an issue and as his mate Alex should be doing better than to take advantage of it
2 hrs … police have never moved so quick
You bet if your house was getting burgled though they’d take half the day to show up only to tell you that they can’t do anything😂😂
No more truth can ever be told
xd Cause they most likely will just auction the bike and make some money on it.
2 hours! They must have thought they were attending a "miss-gendering"
I'm sorry to hear that, Rory
The saddest part is the thief moved his stolen bike and will never be found, The honest man aka. rory bought it, The police takes it away, The original owner gets a payout, The insurance will with one signature make it legal again and auction it off, Some dude buys it for dirt cheap in the auction, And honest man is the only one who gets scammed.
yeah the whole system is bs
@@jaythornton2837 not really this is as fair as it gets without muddying the waters. it's an objective legal chain of ownership. thankfully it doesn't happen as much with cars anymore seeing as it's tougher to hide & they mostly get shipped abroad where they have higher value or for parts, only positive of this trend is it saves unsuspecting consumers like Rory. Everyone ought to be wary of this when buying bikes/quads & farm stuff anyway, Rory just isn't the target market as most of the usual buyers wouldn't care to look into further or would be aware of what they have.
Take your tin hat off you fool, the insurance company is the one left out of pocket and that results in EVERYONES insurance getting more expensive. Get a grip.
Nothing to stop Rory buying it off the insurance company, if he can afford it.
@@PJ-om2wq Exactly
So... I'm assuming the chances of getting Martin on the podcast in the future have slightly diminished? 😅
Martins sitting on that yacht watching this, laughing like the mad man he was... 😂
Martin sold stolen goods. How he got it would be nice to know.
I'm guessing it was due to some highly intelligent crime ring he runs...the plonker sold a stolen motorbike on one of the most popular motoring KZhead channels. 😂
@@philclarke7712 Investigation = channel content.
He seemed like the wheeling/dealing type. Probably bought it himself on the cheap thinking it was a deal to move on and didnt know himself. Cant imagine he would have been happy to do it all on camera if he knew it was stolen. But then again may have thought it was done well enough to not be found out. Who knows 🤷♂️
Martin's sitting in a tree with an old bed sheet as a sail imagining and telling everyone he's on that yacht, laughing like the bellend that he is... There, fixed that for you
10:45 "Do you know who you got it from?" "There's definitely no video evidence. Please don't look us up on youtube, thanks" 😂
Leuvenlife said.. the accent is wrong, but fùçk me, the drawing is spot on. 😂
The hero of the hour!
The police are great when you do their job for them. Straight out to pick it up. When you get burgled they don’t even bother coming out.
yeah because they can sell it after getting it for free, of course they are there to pick it up LOL. if this wasnt for youtube theres no way they would be calling the police and they're right for that aswell
Not even when you do their job for you, my car got broken into and I managed to get them CCTV of the bloke... Face and all... Apparently they couldn't do anything
it's cause it's an easy way to shut an open case & looks decent for the statistics. also for them easier to deal with insurance companies who will pay the recovery fee & storage fees etc. tories & their 2010 auestrity drive put an end to cops coming out consistently in my area at least for any small break in/issue with foresnics etc, totally changed in past 10 odd years.
@@d.b.cooper1 Yep ...... its a crime thats now listed as solved by the cops so they loveeeeee that . If they have little chance of solving a crime they have little interest and bollox to the public who suffer thanks to this lack of interest . So speeding for example . Camera takes a picture , someone gets a fine , a crime and its solved instantly , 100% sucess rate and look we arnt that bad as just look at the numbers , millions of crimes solved .
They show up to help capitalists though. Just remember the police don't work for you, they are there to protect capital.
Might be best checking the Range Rover vin whilst they’re at it!
A bit too late tbf it’s already been stripped
That bike has already been paid out by the insurance company, The police will just put it in a stolen and recovered auction.Probably be able to buy it back in a month or two for a few hundred quid! 😂
With the tampered VIN numbers, this bike will get scraped.
Well... the _insurance company_ will put it in an auction - they own the bike now...
@@22Epic wont be scrapped at all can re reg it as a q plate
@@2012richjwhy would it need to go on a Q plate? It could just go back onto its original identity.
@@Pugjamin because 1. the insurance would write it off a cat b so dvla would never issue a logbook and 2. the original vin have been removed so it would have to be taken for inspection issued a new vin refering to a q plate then a ktm dealer can restamp new vin numbers and issue a certificate to say its been done etc
Watching this motorcycle being taken away on a huge transporter truck brought back memories of 2011, when I went bankrupt. I was told by the official receiver that I would have to give up my 'project' Yamaha XJ600 because it was seen as a luxury item, and would be auctioned off to help towards my creditors. I tried to argue the case, and offered to pay market value to retain it, but the official receiver was having nothing of that! Come the bleak day that the bike was seized. Some guy in a massive low loader turns up, that looks like it could haul off a double decker bus, and when I showed him the bike he was seizing, he said to me, 'how much did you offer to buy back this bike?' I replied '£150' as that was probably all that bike was worth at that time. The truck driver then responded 'It's costing the official receiver four times that much for me to recover it!' Go Figure!
thanks for the life story mate
It always used to be that they would leave you with one cheap vehicle and sell the rest. They don't want too many vehicles out there potentially making them liable for any issues because they own them as soon as you are made bankrupt. More about limiting their liability than liquidising assets for creditors.
How do you offer to pay when you're bankrupt, wouldn't they just say "that'll do nicely" take your money AND the bike?
@@ridley68 The Receivers recognise that there may be certain valuable items such as jewellery, that may be much more valuable to the bankruptee through sentimental reasons, so will allow these items to remain if the bankruptee can offer to compensate a reasonable portion of the value. Where the bankruptee gets that money from is their problem. What the Receiver does not do is leave the Bankruptee totally destitute, as they have to retain enough income to live off. They will only take money away from any disposable income that the bankruptee has, i.e., any money eft over after all living costs have been paid such as rent, rates, heating, food, clothing etc.
umm why didnt you instantly sell it to someone before they came to value anything? 😂 Funny how people that get into big debt are the same ones that know nothing when it comes to keeping the stuff they bought with other peoples money.
I had my bike stolen years ago. Had to catch the thief myself as it was someone I knew. Waited 2hrs for police to show up at his nans place. The police took the bike, even though it was roughed up it was still driving.. I was naive and young and thought okay I can get the full amount back from court because it wasn't a very good bike anyway - i thought I'd just get the full amount. Haven't seen a single cent of course, guy is active on facebook posting pics of his cars but has no income to pay anyone :) Bike went to the police and disappeared, so it got stolen twice really the comment "police are coming to steal the bike again" is spot on lol. shoulda just taken it back instead of looking for "justice" and have never contacted the police for anything after that.
That absolutely sucks, wow.
@@MyRealName yeah any time I am reminded of it by something even if was 10+ years ago I get frustrated haha. Its no big deal for me anymore just a life lesson that unfortunately drove me off bikes when I love them :( hoping to get back into it some day I have a garage..
Be a shame if one of his flash motors got nicked !!!
A cricket bat and some mates, just a pointer for next time from experience 😂
@@russthebikeror had every panel really badly keyed.
Funny how the police were there so quick when the case is solved and handed to them on a plate. But if your car gets nicked they dont even turn up you just get a crime ref number and told to deal with it. All about hitting them quotas 'We recovered XXX stolen bikes this year, everyone pat yourselves on your backs!'
My neighbour had his BMW towed away in Broad daylight by theives. We had 2x cctv footage, 3 people witnessed it and had descriptions of the men. The police never even came! Not good enough really.
@@joegatrill6634 It would have cut into their choreography practice for the next Rainbow Parade
Yep that’s one of their “recovered vehicles” to help the statistics lol
yep the police have done nothing and will claim all the credit .
Another crime solved... just not by the police but I doubt the all important statistics will reflect that crucial little fact.
The one episode a car vertical ad, we get a Carly ad haha
But the Video itself is an ad for theft
A friend of mine once bought a car from a used car dealership. About half a year later a police knocked on his door and said the dealership is under an investigation regarding fraudulent sales. They took his car. A year later they told him that his car is not one of the shady deals so he can come pick it up. Since it was sitting in some lot without being started or moved for a year the battery was dead but the bonnet was a bit tricky to open so it took him almost a full day to get into it and start the car. On his way home a hog ran out of the woods where my friend was driving home (about 5 miles away from home) and the car ended up totalled. The hog managed to do a backflip, a side flip, and a double twist with proper langing. RIP car and hog
Sooo... BBQ?
Owner of the bike would be the insurance company... ffs unlucky Rory
yeah i gues the only chance for Rory to get that bike back is to try and make a deal with the insurer that legally owned that bike since it was nicked.
@@destructionnl8165 its ahd the vin tampered, wont get back on the road ever
@@destructionnl8165how does the bike get re-identified though? They’d need someone to put the original VIN back on it and grind off the false one. Not sure how willing KTM would be to do that. I suppose a punched VIN isn’t illegal but it would need doing by someone properly.
@@adammcallister2260 would most likely be assigned a new VIN by DVLA and then Q plated.
@@adammcallister2260 I'm not sure how that could be done in the UK. Here in the Netherlands we have the RDW (they control vehicle registration etc), they would be allowed to put the original VIN back in there if all papers are correct and you can prove you're the legit owner of a vehicle.
As one of the people who commented that it was stolen, just wanted to say it wasn’t that I wanted to see you fail quite the opposite in fact, hopefully you’ll now also save someone else making the same mistake too. 👍
🤓
If any other guy makes the same mistake they will just shut up about it, enjoy it for a while then sell it like any other bike really, specially in the case of those 125's, by the end of their lives they got like 15 owners
@@joey_f4ke238I would have kept it 🤣
word of warning on the Carly thing, only do one mod/system change each time, if you do a whole bunch of them at the same time it can brick the ECU, speaking from experience, and there are plenty of youtube vids to that effect
another warning, where I live disabling start stop on your car will get you charged with tax fraud if you are caught.
@@contra1124 why?
I'd like to say unlucky, but there were plenty of red flags from the very beginning unfortunately. Fair play for doing the right thing, though unfortunately due to the tampering and the fact it's likely been through insurance already, it will probably be scrapped (or maybe auctioned) by the insurers for it's past, a mega shame to see a practically new and completely functional bike go like that... IF it's auctioned, maybe buy it back for the content? 😂
A massive shame.
Tell ya what . If i buy it in a few months time ill contact the lads and try to flog it to rory yet again 🙂
So did the seller have something to do with the theft or was he also innocent?
oh dang is Martins Manor a chop shop 😂
Inb4 the Range Rover is stolen as well
ohmigosh, could you imagine? ahaha
Seller got some explaining to do.
who in their right mind would steal a car thats likely to break down on the getaway?
@@WokesportSnitchesinchat Any American manufacturer.
😂😂 gd old shady martin
Wasn't the bike purchased in the video from that person at the farm?? That seller has the liability , because that is selling stolen goods. Surely theft clearance and disposal is primarily a seller's duty , not absolutely a buyer's onus. 👍
you know nothing. Stealing and having stolen goods on you are the crimes.
@@WokesportSnitchesinchat Jesus you're full of BS. How's it stealing when the buyer isn't aware it's stolen? Grow a brain mate? You're channel is very childish mate. Cars and bs forever this tripe.
The proper course of action is to indict the seller and then sue the seller for your money back. Easy win, if the seller also bought it unknowingly they then sue who they bought it from, etc all the way back to the original criminal
Who knew an “Eccentric” geezer who lives in a manor in Scotland would sell you a stolen motorbike.
Oh that must be just the most common thing that happens to anyone all the time.
The level of naivety on display here is staggering...
There’s a reason why he has the money to buy a manor
Poor Rory's mum Jackie she must be disgusted with Rory's form on buy cars and bikes I bet that new robot lawn mowers stolen as well😂 😂😂😂
I think that droid may have fought in the rebellion
It’s ok, he’s got daddy’s money to keep him afloat
Am I the only one thinking Martin sold stolen goods and should be reimbursing Rory.
Was thinking the same thing. 🤔🤔
I bet if they go back he'll be long gone!
Martin has some good gypsy friends
alright adolf
*Bad gypsy friends.
Rory was right in that as the previous owner was paid out for the stolen bike, the ownership of then transfers to the insurance company. If the stolen bike's ever found (as it was here) the police will seize it and return it to the rightful owner (the insurer) to then do with what they want. As the bike has been tampered with, they will probably have it crushed as there is no way to sell it on considering all the VIN markings stamped on the bike belong to a completely different bike. The best that could happen is the insurer sells it to a trusted breaker to break it down for spare parts, then crush the frame.
A very sad end for such a young vehicle!
Martin well and truly had you over 😂
DONT BUY CARLY - HIDDEN COSTS - HIDDEN COSTS - HIDDEN COSTS. Think its a good deal? Not after all the hidden costs like MONTHLY Subscriptions etc etc. CONLY not carly
Hardly hidden but hey ho
The police will just chuck it in to auction the insurer will have already written it off as total loss go and buy it again 😂
Yeah, it would be amazing to buy it back again with a legit V5. Would make quite the story.
@@MrManBuzz yeah shame they'd have to pay for it twice but would make a good video
With all the things done to the bike (changed VIN numbers), it will most likely be destroyed.
@@22Epic most likely be cat B write off so parts can be used but frame has to be scrapped
Your wrong, the insurance company, ownes the legal title to this bike. They will sell it , it's their bike
This happened LEGALLY a long, long time ago. A friend had a 1965 BSA 650 but, when he had it checked and overhauled after a few years ownership, it was a 1970 rear suspension unit. He panicked and thought it was dodgy. But it turned out to be a BSA sanctioned "you don't have a 65' unit, with a few tweaks, you can fit a 70's unit instead, and it's perfectly legal" work around. Relief and doubles all round!
Double the doubles I'd say! 😂
Good that someone will likely get their bike back - albeit likely an insurance company. However if you're bike were stolen you would want the bike returned too so it's good in a way that the system works like that. Moral of story - check these things more carefully in the future to avoid similar disappointments.
My dad who was in the motortrade 30+ years got caught on a Ford transit we took back in P\x did all the checks all the chassis engine numbers all matched up sold the van little while after police came around checking everything in stock. Lot stress on the family. I would be worried about the Range Rove as well
Very honest of you gents! Most people (not me ofcourse) would have stripped it for parts and chucked the rest in the scrap!
Keep an eye on copart for stolen recovered KTMs. It can be reissued the original VIN and sold at auction. Not sure it will be worth the legwork for the insurance company on a £2k bike but happens with cars all the time.
I swear people are thick. They used car vertical, checked the stamped VIN and reg - it came back as not stolen but categorised. Only when KTM scanned the ECU and found the hidden vin, they found the vin had been changed and was infact stolen. There was no way of knowing the bike was stolen without going to KTM direct and 99 percent of people commenting wouldn't of done that. End of the day, they are the victims ( as well as the geeza who had his brand new bike robbed )😂
There was no way of knowing it was stolen, but it was dodgy enough to avoid it. You don't buy something unless you're 100% sure. It was a bad decision either way.
@@MyRealName it wasn't tho. Unless youre proper into bikes, you wouldn't know that the panels can't just be swapped from a newer bike to an older one. In the car world, facelift swaps are a common thing - example the disco 3 Rory now owns. Its completely believable that someone 'facelifted' an older bike...
except the bike was a 2019 model with a 2012 reg......which they spotted immediately and still bought it anyway 🤣
@@AttackBreh You're both kinda right. In the Martin video the guys did seem to notice straight away that there was something dodgy going on with the bike, but the checks came back sort of ok (although the checks also presented a warning sign about it being a write off), so Rory bought it. They only became aware of the actual situation after the KTM enthusiasts in the comments pointed out the discrepancies in the bike's supposed story. But yeah, they should have listened to their instinct on this one.
Well, you say that, but the people in the comments who know their KTM models knew it wasn't right... if a log book says a bike is one model, & the actual car or bike is a much later model, cloning is actually the usual explanation. Probably worth just checking out a photo of the model what you are buying claims to be to ensure that whatever you buy looks like that actual thing, & not something else - you don't kneed to know anything about what you are buying to do that, & if the two things don't match then you can walk away, unless the person selling can somehow _prove_ that it actually is the same thing... which they probably can't. A friend of mine ended up with a 1.9 Pug Gti that claimed it was a 1.6 when he was in his early 20s, falling for a similar scam... that didn't end well for him...
Love the content but this one serves you right in all honesty. The flags were there at the beginning, you choose to ignore the flags and not do the propper checks.. you even said it was dodgy.. lesson is if it feels it aint right it usually isn't.
The Home of Financial Mistakes should be a shirt at this stage.
The Minister for Monetary Mishaps
I nearly passed out not seeing Car Vertical in this episode
Would love to have seen the face of that lady on the police hotline thing when Rory was telling her the story. She probably knows about VIN's n Reg's n stuff. But KTM this, ECU that.... *glazed over*
Had a whole 12 minutes to plan his speech too.
You guys are a true gentleman hope the owner will get his bike back and you get your money😊
Rory what you needs to do is get on to Taylor's new mates that sold him the Beemers & head to see Martin in Scotland! 🤣😂🤣
lol wait did taylor really end up buying those x5's from the legitimate coca suppliers?
Id be checking the Range Rover after this to be fair lmao
Martin’s in-trouble! 😂
I don’t think Martin’s bothered one jot……..
Martin opened up his yard and no doubt now, he’ll regret it as the plod should be paying him a visit.
Irrelevant, but true: in my home country Hungary 🇭🇺 you MUST bring every used motor vehicle to a paid vehicle check before you get the new V5 on your name. It’s mandatory by law. The cost is £35-50/vehicle, it’s called: Eredetiség vizsgálat. I worked 5+ years in that position where we checked the primary and secondary VIN numbers, engine number, and other hidden information (not including ECU data). We had metal X-ray to filter out the hand made or welded VINs, but mostly based on many years of experience and VIN databases. This is how they try to filter out many of the cloned Eastern European cars, vans and bikes. The failed vehicles are impounded and investigated by the police. They got automatic silent alert while the car is still in the test centre. (On a side note: that’s why the obvious clones are never got to the test centres, and stuck on the name of the previous owner forever).
Magyar is vagyok, de Szlovakiaban. I live in UK and have brought a few cars over to SK. There is none of this in Slovakia. Currently here in UK there is a huge market for cars being sent to Romania/Bulgaria. Mostly crash damaged/scrapped vehicles that can't be put back on road or fraud finance purchases that can't be repossessed.
@@9wowable Since the UK left the EU, no cheap UK cars go to Hungary any more. The cost of the registration and the other import fees there are way higher than the value of those exported cars. The only case when it still worth it, when the vehicle is free (stolen), and will be used for parts (without the chassis/frame). Just like in this KTM case, where the new parts are sourced from a stolen bike. As long as there is a need for cheap (stolen) parts, someone will supply it, sadly.
For everyone moaning about Car Vertical… if you actually watched the video when they purchased the bike you’d know they did one using the VIN and the REG etc.
No doubt will be sold by the insurance company on Copart in a few months :D
Those animations of the comments from the "everything wrong with" video were hilarious, well played guys 😂😂
Well done Rory *very, very, VERY slow clap*
So back in the 1960s in America trailer manufacturers didn't have to put a unique VIN(Vehicle Identification Number) on every trailer; they used 1 VIN per week or so. Fast forward to the 1990s and I bought my Dad a little used 1960s pop-up camper in California. I'd bought it on a Saturday from a rancher, and it's now Monday morning(ie, about 48 hours). We took it to do the papers at the DMV(Department of Motor Vehicles). They ran the VIN, and it came back stolen. Next thing I know I'm handcuffed in front of my three children by CHP(California Highway Patrol) and DMV is calling to have the trailer seized. Neither the CHP nor the DMV would listen to my explanation. That's when Dad stepped in. Question 1 to the DMV supervisor: "when and where was it stolen?" His answer: "two days ago in Virginia Beach, Virginia". Right then the CHP officers started getting a bit uncomfortable, as Virginia Beach is just shy of 3000 miles away from where we were(Lodi, California) and is a 40-45 hour non-stop drive. Question 2 to the DMV supervisor: "what is the description of the trailer?" His answer: "motorcycle trailer with ramp." Now they're really worried, as they are looking at a fully functional pop-up tent trailer. Dad tells them about the "1 VIN for multiple frames" process as well, but they refuse to believe us. They call the Sergeant, who calls the Officer on Duty. As their Lieutenant arrives, a man about my Dad's age comes over and shakes hands all around. He introduces himself as a retired CHP Captain and former head of the VIN inspection department. The Officers and DMV agent begin explaining about the stolen trailer thing. Before they can even finish the retired Captain raised his hand and asked the exact same questions my father had. After they answered, he asked the Officers if they truly thought that I could've stolen the trailer, modified it, and driven it across country in 48 hours. Now they're REALLY UNCOMFORTABLE. The Lieutenant, the DMV supervisor, and the retired Captain step away for a few moments. When they return, the Lieutenant directs the officers to remove the handcuffs and tells me that my Dad will have his new title and plates as soon as DMV can get them assigned. Although everyone handled themselves professionally and with courtesy, I lost most of my faith in 'civilian' government officials that day.
10:20 A wild Edwin walks by...
I’m an avid watcher of your contents but please stop endorsing Carly as they have taken my money but didn’t receive the obd and can’t refund due to it’s terms and conditions
Since when terms and conditions are above the law
Hey guys I was one of the original commenters, said I hoped you were just taking the time to tell the story properly. Glad to see you followed up as I thought you should, some lessons learned to be sure but this really can happen to anyone. Thanks for including bikes in your content!
I'm so happy to see Phil is hanging around still. You gave that car a personality, and I love it.
1:50 as far as I know on these bikes the seat „lock“ is not actually a lock. You can open any seat with any key. At least it worked on mine and a friends bike (Both KTMs)
Shouldn't do that quite honestly 😂
Stolen vehicules suck big time. Very sorry to hear that, we bought a van a last year, a 2022 model, 1 month after the purchase 4 cop cars showed up at the door looking for the owner. Turns out the documents were forged and the car was owned by a rental company that reported it stolen after our purchase. It's been nearly a year, we still have the van but have been advised by the police not to take it out of the country.
It sucks mate. Almost the same thing happened to me last year, bought a BMW M3 F80 and it appeared as stolen when I tried to register it. I could keep it (for the moment) as I have all the original documents and a bill of sale from the dealer I bought it from. And currently I'm waiting with a car in my garage that I can't drive (it's not registered) until I know if I can keep the car, or if the car will be taken from me (and then I'll need to sue the dealer with the hope to not lose the car and my money)... Only one previous owner, sold by a dealer, clean Car Vertical, and yet I got fucked...
@@22Epicthat sucks. Why does the hard working innocent people always get the worst punishment.
why have you not sold it before its you out of pocket? Also there is no law whatsoever stating you must do what the police say with a vehicle aka "keep it in the country" Its your property until proven otherwise and they cannot put sanctions on a vehicle unless the owner is acting anti-social in it and even then they need to go through 3 sets of courts to do it and you are summoned for the final one.. Sell it you fool
@@WokesportSnitchesinchat You don't know where I live mate, selling known stolen cars is massively illegal, actually impossible to do legit where I live. So thanks for calling me a fool
@@WokesportSnitchesinchat That's a nice way to end up in prison mate. Selling a vehicle that has been declared stolen (and that you're aware of it) makes you an accomplice.
Have you guys heard of car vertical?
They did one in the original video with the (cloned) VIN on the frame. It came back as a Cat D write off, which was the first warning sign! But they had no way of knowing the true VIN (which shows as stolen on Car Vertical)
@@Recessio I personally think the “eccentric character” Martin was the first warning sign….
Keep an eye out for it on Co-part, might get it back for cheap 🤷🏻♂️
I love car and bike content, but this makes for a much more interesting story than the traditional "bought old bike, fixed, and now it runs again" kind of video 🍿 sorry for your loss, Rory. 🙃
4:45 bro got bit by a vampire
Great video, shame about the circumstances though. Fingers crossed it all works out in the end.
A bitter sweet one there... Damn. Aside from that, I've got a 2003 Jaguar XJ with the same steering column adjustment knob. Funny how parts bins just keep being used. However, my '03 car has electric pedals whereas your newer car doesn't look to have that. So, when's the next bike coming...?!
Please explain... You ran a car vertical check on this before buying that didn't show it was stolen, but now it does? Am I misunderstood or is the check useless?
the bike's VIN had been tampered with. the car vertical check they originally ran was with a fake VIN, so when they ran the real VIN from the ECU it came up as stolen.
Yes, the check on lots of these sites is only against a registration or vin. It in no way guarantees that those numbers are on the correct vehicle, that is why none of the companies will pay compensation as promised if you end up with stolen vehicles after buying it based on their checks. They simply try and get out of it by saying the details were from a third party and they're not responsible for the accuracy. Read the T&Cs and don't use these sites. You need to get a proper check done by someone that can make sure the vehicle matches the displayed identity and then look through history. Sadly a lot of people lie about Apps as they are on affiliate promotions offering codes and taking a cut for each person that signs up. The first check was for a numberplate and vin, NOT to check they were on the correct vehicle as the App doesn't know! The second check was for the details extracted from the ECU, which belonged to a reported stolen bike. Two different sets of details. So this proves Apps are of NO use to confirm the true identity of a vehicle, they only provide a collection of info from other databases.
How did you get my accent so well 🤦🏻♂️
Maybe he is stalking you.
Yoooooorrrrrr royyyyt luuuurve?
10:19 Edwin strolling past 😂
This was one of the funniest v2 videos yet - especially the last 2 minutes! Another one to chalk up on Rory's mistake list and the bike gets returned to its rightful owner, presumably the insurer that paid out so in that sense the purchase was an amazing success, well done.
Should have run a car vertical check before buying it!
they did, it came back as a 2012 but they assumed someone had put newer parts on it :(
@@murry0012012 and cat D they said in the video - easy to assume it had been fixed up after an accident as an explanation for the parts
30s search or less, KTM vin location on Google. If doesn't look like on photo, walk away.
It wouldn't have helped as a false registration and VIN were on the bike they had. Car Vertical doesn't check the details are on the correct vehicle, so the check was of no use. At least it exposed why you should never rely on these sites. The second check was for the ECU extracted info which showed the true identity, when checked it was found to be stolen. You need to FIRST confirm the correct identity of the vehicle, then check in the VIN and Registration plate match. Then you can delve in to the history knowing the vehicle you have is the correct one. So many make this mistake as they don't know how to check a vehicle identity. You can get a cheap fault reader and do it yourself.
Which isn’t crazy given the registration came back as crashed. If it has matching numbers and documentation. What more can a consumer check within reason?
On the plus side, you’ve got a new vehicle to use during the car vertical ads for ones to avoid…. 😂
And made people more aware that all these Apps and sites DO NOT confirm the plate or VIN belong to the vehicle they are on, so should never be relied upon as stated in their terms and conditions people never read.
It's sad to have spent all that money and time on it, but you did the right thing in the end. Hope it all works out!
Funny how this video isn’t sponsored by car vertical 😂
Am I dreaming a car video on KZhead that isn’t sponsored by car vertical
There will be more motorbike stuff but Rory isn’t allowed to be doing the purchasing 🤣
Well done for doing the right thing, it can be hard sometimes.. and expensive 😖
The fact that he had to edit the parts of himself riding the bike and looking happy in the same video where the bike is taken away, is PURE GOLD!
Funny there’s no car vertical d on this episode 😂
there is actually one on the new VIN
Now you guys need to do a video explaining to people that leaks a bit of grey matter why this wasn't a Car Vertical fault...
How about an explanation of why he was taking the piss out of his viewers that pointed out all the signs that it was a ringer?
I'm so glad it's not just my area that police don't have a clue what the process is. Then are,just so vague! They wonder why people don't contact them. Still haven't returned my pistol!!
A 2021 bike was lying in the woods for 2 years. Nothing suspicious there at all.
Car Vertical would’ve been the perfect sponsor
Quite the opposite, they said they used car vertical before agreeing to buy it and they still got scammed, pretty embarrassing for car vertical to be honest 😬
Car Vertical (and all the others) aren't perfect. The records for my daily driver show it as 100% clean with no damage, no finance and accurate mileage. I've owned it from new so know it's been in two accidents (first it was hit in a car park, second was rear-ended at traffic lights) but neither come up despite both going through my insurance.
@@kbytfs The VIN number they could see and used for car vertical was not the correct VIN.
The forged VIN that they checked first was from a not stolen bike. They should have realized that it was a bit weird that a 2012 bike looked like a 2020 one. No way that any vehicle history tool can tell you what was going on here
Shows how easily carvertical can be bypassed!
I have tried to check one of cars my mate was trying to buy and.....last record of 2009 c class was in 2015... useless really, not on car Vertical part but its just isnt working if its not going to dealer all the time right?
It's not a case of being bypassed. Services like that can only tell you what's happened to the VIN. If a vehicle has been stolen and recovered previously for example but it's still on the legitimate VIN it'll show up. Same as any damage and categorisation. It's not a magic all seeing eye system and you have to use your judgement as well.
I've felt this EXACT SAME thing! Many years a go, I bought a tidy Rover 216iSE Coupe, coupla weeks later I get a letter from VOSA saying they were going to take the car because of its 'Shady history', even though I checked it out, chassis/engine/history and all... I was GUTTED 😕, so I feel for 'Rorrrai'... 😎🇬🇧
My son had a similar problem , he bought an old KTM that had sat in a shed for 10 years. He checked the number plate and VIN and there was no sign of a problem. Until that is he double checked with KTM so still no sign of a problem and decided to re -register it under it's existing plate. He had started to rebuild it, replaced parts and was almost at the start up stage when he got a knock at the door from plod. A tow truck was on it's way as it WAS a stolen vehicle. Luckily plod allowed him to take of the most expensive parts off and put back the old ones. He did get an update from the police, they questioned the seller but he had bought it from a friend some years previously, the friend was no longer around so my son lost what he paid for the bike but was luckily able to use the parts.
are you not gonna try and get your money back from martin for selling you a stolen bike? i mean you’ve got it all on camera so there’s clear evidence of the sale.
Martin didn’t know it was stolen. He also paid money for it a few years back in good faith.
Do you really believe that though. He was a Hella sketchy (though very entertaining) dude.
@Autoalexv2 probably should address this in a vid at some point as Martin looks guilty as.
@@Autoalexv2 I agree, it's just one of those things unfortunately, hopefully Rory bounces back and buys a even better bike.
In the video they implied he had a gun upon his person (kinda laughing it off as a joke - but not really joking) ...um yeahhh go try and go back and argue your case with him - are you nuts! Lolz
Please do a follow up Alex if you here from the police what happens now
More bike stuff? You mean jack and Ethan finally doing their CBT. Now the autoalex umbrella is their boss they kind of have to 😂
For the ones saying that Car Vertical didn't got the correct info, please watch the video properly, the VIN in the frame is from a clean bike so of course will pass Car Vertical checks. The VIN from the stolen bike is the one in the ECU that Car Vertical actually said it was from a stolen bike, and the only way to acess that one VIN is with a proper bike diagnostic machine that KTM used as they are not out in the wild as much as car ones. So actually Car Vertical worked very well.
Lol i new it was going to be stolen 😂😂
Notification Squad!🔥🔥🔥
My 2020 390 Duke was stolen back in september 2021. Found abandoned in a backyard a week or so later. Heavily trashed (spray painted everywhere), but mechanically sound. Haven't been able to fix the spray paint (mostly on the engine) because too expensive but I have it back. Hope the original owner was insured.
Why don't all vehicle manufacturers have provision to flag a vehicle as stolen. I had a VW Touareg that was one of the first keyless entry thefts, and thay said they had no provision for it. As most manufacturers have a global database, at a stroke it would reduce desirability of stolen goods.
Well, at least you guys had the balls to come clean. Onwards and upwards 🏍️
pretty damning evidence on the internet mate, I don't think they had any choice. only took 1 triggered viewer to rat them out to the police.
Oh poor old Rory. And what does Martin have to say about all this?
“Hahahahahahahahaha!” Probably.
@@adammcallister2260 😆
He might get in trouble...oh wait this is UK nothing will happen to him
Hope you gave the old bill the address u bought it from. that place looked well shady from the off. Is the Range Rover a ringer as well?
The VIN number is nowadays scraped / engraved with static hardened needle (static = it's non-rotating tool), mounted on robotic hand in an armature with x and y linear motors... It's definitely not punched these days...
A wild Edwin appears: 10:20
YEs, a fast walk on by :-)
“…was definitely not stolen…” FML 🤦